Beware of the Scripture Twisting Jezebels [podcast]
The name Jezebel is spelled in Hebrew as “LYZEBEL” and it means “Baal exalts, un-husbanded one, without cohabitation and unchaste.” This spirit hates authority, despises correction, hates being subjected to authority and loves attention.
Some today attempt to use the following passage to justify women being elders, overseers in the body of Christ.
“And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams: 18 And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:” Acts 2:17-18
Notice women can prophesy, and proclaim the Gospel and yet are not called to preach to men.
This passage above in Acts 2 in no way negates the clear declaration of the LORD that only men can be elders in His body. Yes, like the woman at the well, women can preach the Gospel and do many other ministries which we see them doing in the New Testament canon. Yet, in the case of eldership, being an overseer to His body, one of the qualifications is that such a person must be “the HUSBAND of one wife” which no woman could possibly be (1 Timothy 3:2).
So does God pour out His Holy Spirit on women in order to get them to do something He forbid them to do – to assume a place of leadership over men in the church (or home)? No.
Jezebel is alive and well and on her way to hell!
“What about Deborah?!”
“Using Deborah to justify jezebel is rebellion.
Pure and simple.
I’ve made posts in the past debunking the mantle/template of Deborah for women in the New Testament.
She was an Old Testament exception and not the New Testament standard!
And all the women in the New Testament never took authority positions in the church.
Faulty translations have lead many to believe these lies.
It’s always been PATRIARCHY and by extension POLYGYNY for God’s hierarchy and divine design 
” Vincent Roccagli
So many ungrounded people are functioning on pure human reasoning and rejection of the clear Word of God. This reveals that there is no cross in their daily lives which Jesus says is essential to following Him (Luke 9:23-24). The LORD foretold of the great falling away and women preachers are part of that (2 Thessalonians 2; 1 Timothy 4:1-2; 2 Timothy 3:1-7, etc.).
Please explain why you claim God changed, or why He didn’t mean what He stated here:
“Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. 12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.” 1 Timothy 2:11-12
Has God changed or are you deceived? It has to be one or the other and it’s obvious that you are deceived. This is part of the reason women are not ordained by God to lead the general body of Christ. As was the case with Eve, they are easily deceived as the “weaker vessel” (1 Peter 3:1-7). Any person who believes women can be preachers or elders in Christ’s body is not a student of Scripture and is not a broken, humble, crucified disciple.
The fact that the LORD fills someone with His Spirit in this last hour is to testify of Christ and His saving grace but never to act outside of His stated roles for men and women. This is why she can stare the Word of God in the face and reject it (Mark 7:6-10; John 8:47; Proverbs 13:13).
“For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.” 1 Corinthians 14:33
—- There are NO female apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors, or teachers under the New Testament (Ephesians 4:8, 11-12). Jesus gave these “gifts unto MEN” (Ephesians 4:8). There is not even one women mentioned in 27 books as an elder over Christ’s flock. Such is clearly forbidden (1 Timothy 2:11-12). In Acts 21:9 we read of Phillip’s daughters which “did prophesy” which is a gift of the Spirit (one of the nine-1 Corinthians 12:7-10). The office gifts are eldership functions for men called to be overseers over Christ’s flock, which is completely different than the gifts of the Spirit which every believer can function in and certainly women are seen doing such as Phillip’s daughters and how women are mentioned concerning operating in the gifts of the Spirit in 1 Corinthians 14.
“Jezebel is a widely rampant spirit of rebellion that is hard to get rid of, rooted in pride, self-will, and self-sufficiency. Only the LORD can deliver but only if the individual truly repents and submits to Him, to His Word.” Anita Villarreal
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“God has used women since forever. Deborah was one of the judges in Isreal. A strong leader full of courage. The woman at the well after Jesus spoke to her ran and evangelized and told everyone of what Christ knew and did for her. The first to witness Jesus’ resurrection were women and they witnessed to the men. Lydia was one of the first believers among the Europeans and became a witness in her region.God has used many women..(Esther, Ruth, Hannah, Mary, Priscilla..etc) God can use men and women. All he needs is a willing heart, fully surrendered and that loves God with all their heart, soul and strength. Lets humble ourselves and let God use whom he pleases and ask for conviction from the Holy Spirit to open our eyes. Lett us not let this divide Christ’s body but let us seek for the truth through the word and Holy Spirit.” Evelyn
REPLY:
Lame defense Evelyn. This is human reasoning while you reject Scripture that expressly forbids women from being elders in the body of Christ. You are living by your emotions and not the truth and this is exactly why God forbids women from being elders in His body. God has used woman since the beginning, no doubt and yet, not to be elders among His people. God’s Word debunks your misuse of Scripture. The question at hand, being specifically discussed, is whether or not a woman can preach to men or be an elder. No. God specifically forbids women from being an elder in the body of Christ or preaching to men. 1 Timothy 2:11-12; 3:2. No woman can possibly be “the HUSBAND of one wife” which means all women are disqualified from being an elder in the body of Christ (1 Timothy 3:2). Case closed. Repent now. Notice how Evelyn conveniently forgets to mention that of the 12 apostles of Jesus, they are all men. Not 1 woman. Notice how the New Testament Scriptures show not even one woman acting as an elder in Christ’s body other than when Jesus sternly rebuked the church at Thyatira for allowing a woman to act as an elder (Revelation 2:20-24).
Recently I watched a short video of a jezebel who was twisting Scripture to seek to justify women being in the place of an elder in the body of Christ and preaching to men – both specifically and non-negotiably forbidden by God (1 Timothy 2:11-12; Revelation 2:20-24).
The counterfeits who push the idea, the jezebel doctrine that women can teach and preside over men are absolutely false and it’s astounding what lengths they will go to in order to twist the plain and clear reading of Holy Scripture. Manipulating the Greek to get the desired result is an age old trick of wolves.
It was very obvious to notice how this jezebel, this liar has demons. The dilation of her eyes and her facial expressions were clues (Hebrews 5:14). Her unnatural facial contortions made it obvious that she sought to manipulate her audience to buy that lie instead of simply speaking the truth of God in peace (James 3:18). She and the demons in her are seeking to manipulate the women listening to her, to convince them of this lie.
Beware saints.
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“I mean God created Men & Women to be equal partners and to always respect each other not to be sexist. It seems like you might have a problem with women in authority Todd, you should probably pray about that. Also there were women in the Bible that preached.”
REPLY:
No such thing as a woman pastor. “Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.” 1 Timothy 2:11-12
The elder in Christ’s body must be “the HUSBAND of one wife” which no woman could possibly be (1 Timothy 3:2).
God created the male and the female to fulfill specific roles and defined them in His Word. There is no female elder in the church anywhere in the NT. The men of Thyatira were rebuked for allowing a self-proclaimed “prophetess” named Jezebel to function outside the role of a woman in the church setting. Rev 2:20-24 ….. you must go deeper on the topic for yourself in God’s Word and cease following false teachers. Do you have a problem with male leadership? …. being biblical doesn’t mean someone has a problem with authority… it proves they are following God’s authority which is His written Word and not false teachers.
Also, I just caught this that you said: “Was it not Paul himself who said that not “God”? Wow. Friend, God is calling you to repent and walk in the light of His truth before it’s too late. You presently possess soul damning heresies. The Word of God was given to us by the Holy Spirit via the human writers, “holy men of God” …. it’s all GOD’s Word…. it is astounding the lengths counterfeits will go to in order to manipulate God’s Word in order to carry out their own rebellion.
“We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts: 20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. 21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.” 2 Peter 1:19-21
“All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.” 2 Timothy 3:16-17
DID JESUS address Jezebel and the lame men who allowed her to function in the church? YES He did! (Revelation 2:20-24) It’s time to become enlightened and biblical!
Again…. “But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.” 1 Timothy 2:12
You know you are dealing with a counterfeit when they can read these CLEAR as crystal words and not repent. Have you no fear of God and are unrepentant. The authentic disciple of Jesus will always humble themselves and repent and be corrected by the Word of God – and that’s why He gave it to us (2 Timothy 3:16-17).
To a woman who was engaging a man in a Bible debate, I privately sent the following message:
“Even when you may be Scripturally correct, it doesn’t seem appropriate for a woman to be correcting a man. This is out of God’s order and something we never once see happening in the New Testament church, canon – where a woman corrects a man. That is God’s place which takes the responsibility off of the woman, and should be a relief. Read 1 Timothy 2:11-12 afresh. For now I am going to delete that conversation due to it being out of order. No offense taken here. Just wanting to make sure we, as God’s people, operate according to His stated order. Let’s let the men correct the men, just as we see in Scripture. The only instance we have of a woman exercising authority over men in the Bible, is with Jezebel in Thyatira. And such only happened when weak moral coward men allowed such, which is the focus of Jesus’ rebuke in the church of Thyatira (Revelation 2:20-24).”
Of this topic of whether or not a woman can be an elder in the body of Christ, one dear sister writes:
“Paul is forbidding women from filling the office and role of the pastor or teacher. He is not prohibiting them from teaching in other appropriate conditions and circumstances (Acts 18:26; Titus 2:3-4). ‘Usurp authority’: Paul forbids women from exercising any type of authority over men in the church assembly, since the elders are those who rule (5:17). They are all to be men (as is clear from the requirements in 3:2, 5). The prohibition against women teaching in the church is qualified (by Titus 2:4), which allows them to instruct other women (and probably children also). Based on Gods’ Word, I also believe Woman should NOT become pastors. Nothing wrong with speaking Gods; Word on Social Media to plant seeds to the lost.” Yvonne
Do you know who Ahab was? He was Jezebel’s husband. She controlled him (1 Kings 21:25; 2 Kings 9:22). Jesus primarily condemned the weak moral coward Ahabs (men) in the church at Thyatira for allowing Jezebel to function. Are you getting familiar with Revelation 2:20-24? If not, you will not see the full severity of allowing any woman to function outside of her divinely ordained order. Elders in Christ’s body are men, only men, never a woman (1 Timothy 2:11-12; 3:2). This is God’s non-negotiable order and it’s for her protection and the protection of those who would be victimized by a woman in an eldership position.
ANY person who puts their own supposed, self-appointed calling before the truth of God (written Word) and body of Christ is completely self-serving and has no concern for the LORD or His body whatsoever. In fact, such a person is completely departed from the LORD and will bring great destruction on the body of Christ if allowed – if suffered. This is exactly what Jesus addresses in Thyatira and calls it “the depths of SATAN” himself (Revelation 2:20-24) In their self-deceived hearts, they are sure that God has called them to minister in a way He clearly forbids – just like the Jezebel who was allowed by the Ahabs in Thyatira who was self-appointed – “calleth HERSELF a prophetesss” (Revelation 2:20-24.) Repent now.
JEZEBELs will not be tolerated. Truly God-fearing women, authentic virtuous daughters of the LORD, rejoice in the truth and find protection in adhering to the LORD’s order/Word. Numerous Jezebels attack and are dealt with decisively. They are manifesting their demons at the preaching of the Word of God. Having a respectful dialogue is one thing, seeking to correct and dishonor any man is absolute evidence that you are a rebel, a godless Jezebel! Even if the man is wrong, cease seeking to correct and argue doctrine with a man. That is not your place. 1 Timothy 2:9-15 – there is order in God’s creation! This nation is a Jezebel nation that has trained women in this rebellion from the ground up. There is order in the house of God and anyone not adhering to that order is a rebel! Repentance needed.
“God has order in the church, family, governments, etc. I’m perfectly happy being married, under my husband’s leadership, where God wants me to be. I used to have a really bad Jezebel spirit… and I’m beginning to realize slowly over time how much hell and destruction I caused in my marriage… and even though I was ignorant of what was going on… the damage was still done… and I was the guilty one! I started to recognize the JEZEBEL spirit in 2008 and that’s when I began my repentance and surrendering to God. He’s still cleaning me up! That spirit is HORRENDOUS and it’s taking a long time to fix things! But, praise God… all I can offer him is my broken past, my failures, and now… my worship! HE can restore my past and fix all the mistakes I made!“ A.
Women CAN share, pray, and prophesy (1 Cor 14) but not teach the body of Christ at large (which includes men). God has an order we must observe. – “But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence” (1 Timothy 2:12). God fearing women know this to be HIS protection while Jezebels fume at this truth.
A WOMAN leading a church fellowship? Nope. A woman leading her household? Nope. Jezebel Exposed!
ANY woman who still believes she is to lead men is an unrepentant rebel Jezebel! Repent. There is NO excuse for this vile depravity. There will be no Jezebel in Heaven (1 Timothy 2:11-12; 3:2; Revelation 2:20-24).
“THROW HER DOWN”
At the end of her destructive miserable life, Jezebel was thrown down to her death from a high place, and eaten by dogs.
2 Kings 9
33 And he said, THROW HER DOWN. So they threw her down: and some of her blood was sprinkled on the wall, and on the horses: and he trode her under foot.
34 And when he was come in, he did eat and drink, and said, Go, see now this cursed woman, and bury her: for she is a king’s daughter.
35 And they went to bury her: but they found no more of her than the skull, and the feet, and the palms of her hands.
36 Wherefore they came again, and told him. And he said, This is the word of the LORD, which he spake by his servant Elijah the Tishbite, saying, In the portion of Jezreel shall dogs eat the flesh of Jezebel:
37 And the carcase of Jezebel shall be as dung upon the face of the field in the portion of Jezreel; so that they shall not say, This is Jezebel.
This is a clear divine statement. God had this witch thrown down eaten by dogs. All who die in the sin of rebellion which perverts the ordained will for the roles of male and female, will be thrown down into hell and eaten by the dogs of hell.
How many of Jesus’ 12 apostles were female? – ZERO.
IF you refuse to repent and observe God’s stated order of His creation – you prove to be an unsaved rebel (John 8:47; 1 Timothy 2:9-15, etc.).
“WHAT ABOUT JUNIA?” is a common question of jezebel women operating outside the stated order of the LORD. They are grasping for straws while intentionally ignoring clear Scripture truth.
Jezebels, desperate to prove their legitimacy to be elders, foolishly attempt to make Junia out to be a woman. Watch this:
“Salute Andronicus and Junia, my kinsMEN, and my fellowprisoners, who are of note among the apostles, who also were in Christ before me.” Romans 16:7
Paul says that Andronicus and Junia, my kinsMEN. Also, if Junia was one of the “fellowprisoners” of Paul, he was in that male prison section with Paul. Case closed.
So their whole argument rides upon the “a”, the fact that Junia’s name ends with an “a.” Joshua’s name ends with an “a”, does that now make him a woman? Yet they blatantly ignore the fact that God says one of the qualifications for being an elder in the body of Christ is that one must be “the HUSBAND of one wife” which only a man could possibly be (1 Timothy 3:2).
Each individual is known by how they honor or dishonor God’s Word.
“He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me. 7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. 8 For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do. 9 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.” Mark 7:6-9
Are women to correct men? Is that aligned with what God told us concerning His creative order? No. Keeping the divinely stated order is for the safety of all (Revelation 2:20-24).
God ordains that women are to be protected under the servant leadership of men. If a woman is allowed to assume the place ordained only for men, great judgment, death and destruction will come on that church (Revelation 2:20-24).
Women are not to teach, nor to usurp authority over men, nor argue doctrine with men. We see not one example of such in the New Testament. Such is explicitly forbidden (1 Timothy 2:11-12; 1 Corinthians 14:34, etc.).
“Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.” 1 Corinthians 14:34
“But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.” 1 Timothy 2:12
WHEN a woman attacks a man or seeks to rule over him or manipulate him, she further proves she is a Jezebel, a hell bound rebel, a lost soul.
“Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. 12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.” 1 Timothy 2:11-12
Excuse me, the ALMIGHTY didn’t ask for your no-count opinion when He gave us HIS WORD! Time to shut up, lay down your life, deny yourself, take up the cross and truly follow Jesus before it’s too late! No moral coward whiners in Heaven! Revelation 21:8
PASTORS AND THEIR WIVES ARE OFTEN HEARD LAUGHING WHILE SAYING – You know the old demonic fable where a Jezebel wife says: “My husband may be the head but I’m the neck that turns the head!” Pure jezebellian witchcraft! God forbid that we ever laugh at such iniquity again! Those who understand, choose to agree with, and enact the order of God in creation, will see this for what it is – Jezebellian witchcraft!
DEAR godly woman-You are completely, divinely separated from this jezebel generation!
There will be no Jezebel in Heaven, not one!
JEZEBELS love little male pansies who let those witches walk over them! Not here! Repent Ahab!
GOD’s men must never allow women to lead where men are called to lead (1 Timothy 2:12; 3:2; Revelation 2:20-24).
The men at the church at Thyatira consented to a woman operating in an eldership position in the church/among His people. Untold horror resulted (Revelation 2:20-24). Jesus warns us!
There is ORDER in the true house of God – and chaos in that which falsely claims to be His house, His people!
“Let all things be done decently and in ORDER.” 1 Corinthians 14:40
“For this cause left I thee in Crete, that thou shouldest SET IN ORDER the things that are wanting, and ordain elders in every city, as I had appointed thee:” Titus 1:5
Blessing is found where there is ORDER! “ORDER” appears 61 times in God’s Word. Doing things “in order” or in an orderly way simply means we do them GOD’s stated way!
JUST because a woman can run her mouth and even genuinely have a gift of the Spirit DOES NOT mean she’s an elder in the body of Christ – which is divinely reserved non-negotiably for men, male elders (1 Timothy 2:11-12; 3:2).
Suppression? No, PROTECTION (Revelation 2:20-24).
Men and women are equal in significance before God and yet He gave male and female unique roles as it pleases Him.
Also, beware of those who get upset about this heated discussion and cop-out, claiming it’s not biblical to argue about this. They are dead wrong. If God has spoken clearly on this topic or any other, that is the WORD we are to allow to dwell richly among us (Colossians 3:16).
No one reading these words is going to stand before a mere man to be judged. YET each of us WILL stand before our Maker who is the Judge of our eternal souls. What saith the Scriptures?
IF GOD specifically spoke on this matter, and He certainly did, why is there division other than that there are those here who believe God at HIS Word and those who don’t, period. Those who don’t study and believe God’s Word are “NOT of God.” Memorize John 8:47 …. The sword of truth divides between Christ’s true disciples and the counterfeits among us.
“Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.” Matthew 10:34
“Whoso despiseth the word shall be destroyed: but he that feareth the commandment shall be rewarded.” Proverbs 13:13
Who is “OF GOD” and Who is “NOT of God”? (John 8:47)
Jesus and His apostles didn’t teach that women were lower than men. They simply taught the divinely given ROLES of men and women – in the body of Christ and in the family (1 Timothy 2:9-14; 1 Peter 3:1-7; Titus 2:1-5; Revelation 2:20-24, etc.).
To say that men and women are the same, that God had no specific, creative reason to make them complimentary to each other, is to call the Almighty a fool. Jezebel be gone.
To put yourself under the ministry of a woman who is acting as an elder among God’s people, is to defy Christ, and to agree with Christ’s arch enemy and his jezebels and to bring severe destruction on the people of God (1 Timothy 2:12; 3:2; Revelation 2:20-24).
SAINTS, beware of those who attempt to change God’s Word to fit their own false doctrines and desires (Mark 7:6-10; 2 Timothy 4:2-4). Here’s a perfect example …… Regrettably, there are females who insist they are called by God to lead men. This is complete heresy and the subversive spirit of antichrist at work. Unthinkably, these rebels seek to ignorantly and arrogantly say the LORD missed it in translation in the King James Bible. This would be laughable if it were not so pitiful.
“Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. 12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.” 1 Timothy 2:11-12
The LORD’s stated order is the place of His protection.
To a Jezebel who is calling herself “pastor” the following message was delivered:
No such thing as a woman pastor. Repent. An elder in the body of Christ MUST be “the HUSBAND of one wife” (1 Timothy 3:2). No woman can be a “husband” and therefore all women are disqualified from being elders among God’s people.
One lady asked:
“When men are puny in leadership–then what?”
REPLY:
The supposed inaction of men and perhaps that’s due to their discernment of Jezebel in these false churches, in no way changes God or His Word.
That still never justifies the additional sin of women taking up the place of the man in leadership over the body of Christ. The LORD is clear (1 Timothy 2:11-12). Two wrongs don’t make a right.
To the rebel, it’s all about THEM and not Christ and the protection of His body. It’s all about what THEY THINK AND SAY and not about what Jesus clearly stated in His final authority – His divine Word. In Revelation 2:20-24, Jesus solemnly warned us of the destruction that comes when a Jezebel is allowed to function outside of the order God ordained for women. He specifically blames the men who were supposed to stop such!
“…to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols. 21 And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not.” Revelation 2:20-21
QUESTION ASKED:
“But can’t the Jezebel spirit take hold on man, child or woman all the same? It doesn’t just take hold on women, correct?”
REPLY:
Well those characteristics can be seen in both sexes. The Jezebel of the OT and NT were women (1 Kings, Revelation 2:20-24). Usually, it’s a woman and that’s due to the corruption of roles, where a woman is allowed by unrepentant men to lead (Revelation 2:20-24).
The Lydia Question
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“What about Lydia?! The Thessalonian church was started in her house. Paul directly wrote to her. I guess I should not speak about thing because I’m just a dumb woman whose only use is to suffer the sins of eve in childbirth.”
REPLY:
WHO said you were “a dumb woman”? Sounds like a smokescreen. WHAT does Scripture plainly state? Lydia was hospitable, amen. That doesn’t make her an elder or pastor. She merely facilitated the men of God who were the elders. You are not a dumb woman. No one insinuated such except yourself. We are peering into what GOD says is the role of a man and a woman in the family and in His church (among His people). And a woman is to be protected by the men of God around her by not allowing her to lead, which brings great destruction (Revelation 2:20-24).
Lydia was a servant of the LORD, not an elder over Christ’s body, which would be contradictory to the message of Scripture concerning the roles of men and women. Lydia is mentioned twice in the New Testament and there’s no indication of her doing anything except what’s most important and that’s serving in the way God’s ordained she do as a woman.
Acts 16:14 And a certain woman named Lydia, a seller of purple, of the city of Thyatira, which worshipped God, heard us: whose heart the Lord opened, that she attended unto the things which were spoken of Paul.
Acts 16:40 And they went out of the prison, and entered into the house of Lydia: and when they had seen the brethren, they comforted them, and departed.
This is how the Jezebels out there try to misuse Scripture to manipulate and deceive the unlearned. It would take a huge amount of reading into what the text says to conclude that Lydia was an elder in Christ’s body.
Feminism is Simply Jezebel
Feminists are simply rebels, following the steps of Jezebel and are miserable, self-centered, self-serving people, without exception. They are wounded and taking their anger out on God and men instead of examining their own hearts and repenting. Jezebel is equivalent to Judas who betrayed the Son of God. Women are to be virtuous help mates/wives to their husbands and “keepers at home,” and bear children, and teach the younger WOMEN and not the men …, etc. This is the explicit command and order of our Maker whom we shall all stand before to give full account. See Titus 2:1-5 and 1 Timothy 2:9-15 and 1 Peter 3:1-7. Truly God fearing women are the only truly happy women on the earth and fulfilling what the LORD created them to do. They humbly follow His order. Judgment day is on the way.
The Galatians 3:28 Question
Jezebels attempt to use Galatians 3:28 to justify this rebellion. Let’s take a look.
“There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.” Galatians 3:28
We are “all one” in equality and in justification and yet God created males and females with different roles. Men and women do not have the same roles. Nature reveals that. God made men and women to fulfill unique roles in the family and the church.
Any beginner student of the Bible, God’s Word, knows that Galatians 3:28 is not dealing with the roles … it’s simply speaking of justification and does nothing to negate the divinely stated purposes and duties for the unique, complimentary ROLES of men and women.
Equality in God’s justification in Christ is what Galatians 3:28 is speaking of, NOT the specific roles our Maker designated for men and women – in the FAMILY and in the CHURCH … “There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus” (Galatians 3:28).
Galatians 3:28 is not dealing with the roles … it’s simply speaking of justification and does nothing to negate the divinely stated purposes and duties for the unique, complimentary ROLES of men and women.
YOU KNOW WHEN A WOMAN IS REBELLIOUS IN HEART AND THEREFORE UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF THE DEVIL WHEN SHE’S LOOKING FOR REASONS AND SCRIPTURE TO “PROVE” SHE CAN BE AN ELDER IN CHRIST’S BODY.
“Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. 12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. 13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve. 14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.” 1 Timothy 2:11-12
A prequalification for eldership in Christ’s body is “HUSBAND of one wife” which no woman could possibly be (1 Timothy 3:2).
THE FALL OF MANKIND OCCURRED AS A RESULT OF THE MAN ALLOWING THE WOMAN TO BE MORE IMPORTANT THAN GOD. THIS IS THE EXACT OPPOSITE OF GOD’S NON-NEGOTIABLE ORDER. AS WE SEE IN THE CHURCH AT THYATIRA, WHEN MEN ALLOW WOMEN TO LEAD THERE WILL BE CHAOS EVERY TIME.
BEWARE OF TODAY’S AHABS
A woman preaching to men?
No.
Women sharing, communicating God’s Word among the brethren in fellowship? Yes, but never arguing, preaching to, or taking the position of authority as an elder which is reserved exclusively for men (1 Timothy 2:12; 3:2). Observing the severe threat of Jesus when He spoke to the MEN at Thyatira tells us much about the Ahabish MEN today who are telling women to preach (Revelation 2:20-24).
MESSAGE AND REPLY from an Ahab WHO WAS ATTEMPTING TO JUSTIFY JEZEBELS. He writes:
“How about Phoebe which was a prophetess. Preacher. You are in a very destructive misleading Religion. Get away while you can. You do not need to tie gods hands and misquote scripture according to your wishes.”
MY REPLY:
You quoted not one Bible verse and the one you reference you completely lied about. God “tied” His own hands from Genesis to Revelation and you regrettably have no clue as to what He stated and therefore have no business speaking on it. The LORD says you are a fool (Proverbs 18:13).
Phebe’s name appears 2 times in the New Testament:
Rom. 16:1: I commend unto you Phebe our sister, which is a servant of the church which is at Cenchrea:
Rom. 16:27: To God only wise, be glory through Jesus Christ for ever. Amen. Written to the Romans from Corinthus, and sent by Phebe servant of the church at Cenchrea.
I’m sorry, can you show me where the Bible says Phebe was anything but a “servant”?
Before blocking this Ahab, I sent him this: Dennis, you can’t even capitalize the “G” of God’s Name. Wow.
You are the exact moral coward, pansy Jesus addresses and blames in Rev. 2:20-24. Repent sinner and when you do, Christ will give you a backbone. Hell awaits the “fearful” (cowardly) Ahabs (Rev. 21:8).
Since when is it legalistic or wrong to stand on God’s Word? I am a part of no religious group. Can you tell me why this doesn’t mean what it says? “Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. 12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence” (1 Timothy 2:11-12).
Proverbs 31 Woman Audio Series [podcast]
“The Depths of Satan”
What was Jesus’ message to the church at Thyatira? Did the church at Thyatira have their house in order? Were they operating in God’s order? If not, what was the sin of those men (in particular)? Please read Revelation 2:20-24
Men and women are equivalent in salvation – neither male nor female – and yet, God designed men and women with different and unique ROLES. Women are not to lead men – the church, period. We must obey God’s order – do things HIS way and not our own. If we don’t, we will unleash hell’s Jezebellian fury on the church as we see in the church at Thyatira where “the depths of Satan” is associated with this allowance of Jezebel to function (Revelation 2:20-24).
No such thing as a woman elder in the New Testament church. Read 1 Timothy 2:11-12.
Women are seen doing much ministry in the New Testament but not leading. Did Jesus choose even one female as His twelve? No. God gave us specific instructions concerning the role of men and women. His Word is final authority.
The problem is not abusive men or controlling women – the source of our problems is rooted in our own sin and refusal to die to self, deny self, take up the cross and follow Christ as He clearly and repeatedly prescribed. When we do we will gladly follow the divine order given to us by God in His blessed Word.
EQUALITY in salvation, not ROLES (Gal. 3:28). Has anyone ever pointed you to what Jesus warned us about in Rev. 2:20-24? Do you know what the Son of God calls “the depths of Satan”? Allowing women to function outside the role God ordained her to function in is rebellion, brings great destruction, and is the very “depths of Satan” himself.
Anyone violating God’s order will be judged and this is precisely why He judged Thyatira (Revelation 2:20-24). Of Jezebel and all who allow, enable, and participate in such perversion of the roles of men and women, Jesus says He is going to “kill her children with death” (Revelation 2:20-24). Anybody want to argue with the Son of God?
The kingdom of God is not about high and mighty you or me but rather the King of kings. Repent.
NAME one feminist who smiles. Feminism=jezebellian rebellion against God!
This is NOT at all a matter of EQUALITY but rather a matter of roles … God is no fool – He didn’t make men and women for the same purposes … Have you noticed that men and women are different? Think there was a reason for this? WHY O WHY then would He have bothered to create that first beautiful lady if there were not a specific, unique purpose in His plan for her to fulfill? And what does God’s Word tell us about the woman’s purpose? Is it to rise up and be in control, to be boisterous, yelling at the enemy, wearing armor and fighting? Is she a man or the “weaker vessel” to be submitted to God and therefore His order which is Christ as the Head over the man and the man as head over the woman? (to protect her) 1 Peter 3:7
“But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.” 1 Corinthians 11:3
You cannot possibly know the will of God until you know the WORD of God – because the Word of God is the will of God.
QUESTION:
“The Bible forbids a woman to teach, but what if she is on social media and is a believer, who posts instructional posts? I have learned a lot from a couple of women who have done this. Does that fall under the category of women teaching men? Thanks Todd.”
REPLY:
Good morning brother….. Like yourself brother, I’ve learned so very much from Jesus through His daughters. Yes the governing truth conveyed in Scripture is divine protection. From reading 1 Timothy 2:11-12, it seems to be that a woman is not to stand up in an authority posture to rule over men in the local assembling of believers (Revelation 2:20-24). So for a woman to put out Scriptural truth is perfectly fine according to God’s order. Colossians 3:16 is of interest here…. “you” is plural – “Let the word of Christ dwell in you (plural) richly…” So, if two or more of Jesus’ people are gathered around, talking, the sisters are to share alike, never usurping authority over the men, keeping the divine order of roles, yet enjoying fellowship together (1 Timothy 2:9-15). Governing truths are important here. Brothers and sisters/Christ’s men and women were present, gathered together in fellowship, in the upper room to receive the promise of the Father, the baptism with the Holy Ghost: “These all continued with one accord in prayer and supplication, with the women, and Mary the mother of Jesus, and with his brethren” (Acts 1:14). God’s order is to be observed by His people and is set forth for the protection of His people. In 1 Corinthians 14, we see beloved sisters in Christ spoken of as prophesying and praying in the assemblies. Praying and prophesying yes – but that Scripture, by divine design, did not include preaching to men in the body at large. God had all the opportunity in His divine Word and economy to include preaching right there in 1 Corinthians 14….. and didn’t because that would contradict His own Word. His order is for His protection and without it, we will see the severe damage that Jesus addresses in the church at Thyatira (Revelation 2:20-24).
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Abiding
The Lying Vanity of “Eternal Security” [podcast]
WHY was Satan expelled from God’s presence, from Heaven? What happened the last time sin was found in Heaven? Did God coddle it or kick it out? Jesus told us:
“And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.” Luke 10:18
Oh and will we lose the ability to choose in Heaven? One man recently stated: “Even if you are in Heaven you do not have eternal security.” Interesting and apparently true…. because as I am sure you were alluding to, lucifer and a third of the angels still had choice in Heaven, they chose sin and were expelled (Isaiah 14:12-15; Ezekiel 28:13-19; Luke 10:18).
Those who deal with the eternal securists know that it’s observable that these self-serving idolaters, counterfeits, want the assurance of salvation via lies instead of obedience. They campaign, promote, and defend their “eternal security” idol doctrine. If they spent the same time and energy seeking and obeying the LORD they claim to serve, there would be great fruit born.
No one is going to walk in peace and assurance just because they speak of it, claim it, or because they desire to have peace and assurance. No, it’s only when we obey the Word of God that His peace and assurance flood our being. There’s no short cut to obedience (1 John 3:16-18).
The assurance of salvation, of eternal glory with Christ, abides only in those who obey God. The OSAS wolves speak nothing of obeying the LORD. No, instead they spend all their time indoctrinating people with the heresy that they are eternally secure no matter what they do after being saved. Those who give more than cliche’s and lip service to God, enjoy the assurance of His salvation.
“My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in deed and in truth. 19 And hereby (by obedience) we know that we are of the truth, and shall ASSURE our hearts before him. 20 For if our heart condemn us, God is greater than our heart, and knoweth all things. 21 Beloved, if our heart condemn us not, then have we confidence toward God.” 1 John 3:18-21
Assurance of salvation in our hearts comes from abiding in and with Christ, from obeying Him – not sitting around convincing ourselves and others that we are “eternally secure” (John 14-15). Such is the occupation of moral coward counterfeits who are lost hell-bound souls.
Convincing people who aren’t abiding in Christ that they are eternally secure is criminal, sinful, and perpetrated by the grace-perverting “ungodly men” Jude warned us about (Jude 3-4). Instead of teaching them that God requires that they love and obey Him, they sidestep this unpopular truth and evilly, insidiously tickle the ears of their prey (2 Timothy 4:2-4).
Of 1 John 3:19, Adam Clarke writes:
“Hereby we know that we are of the truth – That we have the true religion of the Lord Jesus, and shall assure our hearts – be persuaded in our consciences, that we have the truth as it is in Jesus; as no man can impose upon himself by imagining he loves when he does not: he may make empty professions to others, but if he loves either God or man, he knows it because he feels it; and love unfelt is not love, it is word or tongue. This the apostle lays down as a test of a man’s Christianity, and it is the strongest and most infallible test that can be given. He that loves feels that he does love; and he who feels that he loves God and man has true religion; and he who is careful to show the fruits of this love, in obedience to God and humane acts to man, gives others the fullest proof that he has the loving mind that was in Jesus.”
The crux concerning the eternal security counterfeits is that they simply refuse to die – to deny self, take up the cross daily, and follow the Savior they claim is their Savior.
Believing that God requires man to participate in an abiding relationship with Him is not works salvation, it’s Bible 101. The only people who call an abiding walk with Christ “works salvation” are those who are vainly thinking they’re going to use Jesus to get them to Heaven, out of hell, without engaging in a relationship with the Great Bridegroom. These are antichrists. They teach contrary to Christ. Read John 15:1-6. Doesn’t their reasoning, their doctrine sound like the foolish virgins who were shut out of Christ’s kingdom? Yep. Read Matthew 25:1-13.
Instead of using that energy to lay down their lives, to be truly crucified with Christ, the OSAS defenders have endless energy to argue to justify sinning. Why? They simply do not love the LORD. They love self and they love their life in this world and will perish with it (1 Corinthians 2:9b; 1 John 2:15-17).
Eternal securists preach “grace, grace, grace” and yet they have more faith in sin, in sinning, than they do in God’s grace to keep them…. free from sin. They are “(…the enemies of the cross of Christ: 19 Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things)” (Philippians 3:18-19).
“For he that is dead is freed from sin.” Romans 6:7
Let me get this straight …… Jesus’ grace was enough to save you but is not strong enough to keep you from the sin He died and rose again to deliver you from?
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“Romans 14:1-3. This post (exposing the heresy of OSAS) continues division among God’s people. God has chosen not to reveal all of Himself to any person. We are all in a broken state of incomplete revelation.”
REPLY:
Not true. You are quoting Romans 14 which is speaking of NON-essentials, not essential doctrine of the original Gospel given to us by Christ and His holy apostles. Those who do not continue in sound doctrine, in the teaching of Christ and His apostles, “hath NOT God” and are to be exposed (2 John 7-11).
The only one causing division is you – a false teacher who is perpetrating the same lie of Satan himself from the Garden of Eden, the original doctrine of devils (1 Timothy 4:1).
Believers are specifically mandated to “earnestly contend” against “ungodly men” who are “turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness” such as Satan’s first lie, his first teaching – OSAS/eternal security.
Jude 1:3-5
“Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints. 4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ. 5 I will therefore put you in remembrance, though ye once knew this, how that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed them that believed not.”
Divisions are needed – the divining between the truth-loving remnant of Christ and the counterfeits who espouse falsehoods (Romans 16:17-18). See also Matthew 10:34.
God has clearly, plainly revealed to us the OSAS/eternal security is a lie from His arch enemy and actually led to the fall of mankind in the Garden (Proverbs 22:17-21; Genesis 2:17; 3:4). The warnings against this heresy exist throughout His Word. You may wish to cease using the cop-out position.
Brother Raphael King writes:
“If once saved always saved is correct, then why does Satan tempt saved Christians? What is the aim of the tempter if not to entice the saved ones to sin?
If once saved always saved is correct, why did Jesus tell the man he healed of his infirmity to go and SIN NO MORE? John 5:14
Afterward Jesus findeth him in the temple, and said unto him, Behold, thou art made whole: sin no more, lest a worse thing come unto thee.
I need your views on these if you think once saved always saved is correct, or you have believed a lie all long!”
According to man’s school of thought, eternal security (also known as “once saved, always saved”) is the belief that from the moment anyone becomes a Christian they will be saved from hell and will not lose their salvation.
But according to the Bible, someone that was once saved can still fall into sin, die in their sins and go to hell!
2 Peter 2:20-22: “For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them. But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.”
Let’s analyze some examples:
Judas was once saved! One cannot fall away from a place he has never been. So, accepting this falling away as truth, the conclusion is that one can be saved and then “fall away” or lose his salvation. How can a fallen man fall again if he was never saved at first?
Acts 1:25: “That he may take part of this ministry and apostleship, from which Judas by transgression fell, that he might go to his own place.”
Judas Iscariot was standing in the Lord, and a follower of Christ before he fell into transgression.
Demas was once saved…
Colossians 4:14: “Luke, the beloved physician, and Demas, greet you.”
Philemon 1:24: “Marcus, Aristarchus, Demas, Lucas, my fellowlabourers…” These are saved laborers that Paul referred to.
But Demas later backslid to love the world….
2 Timothy 4:10: “For Demas hath forsaken me, having loved this present world, and is departed unto Thessalonica; Crescens to Galatia, Titus unto Dalmatia.”
1 Corinthians 5 was written to believers who had fallen into fornication. “It is reported commonly that there is fornication among you, and such fornication as is not so much as named among the Gentiles, that one should have his father’s wife.” Paul would not be preaching like this to those that are not yet saved.
The seven churches in Revelation were saved believers before they fell. The Bible recorded their good works. The remedy for them was repentance. Mind you these happened after Pentecost. The church at Ephesus backslid and left its first love. God out of His infinite mercy, sent a message of warning to them. Can you then say that these Churches are not truly saved at first? Then read Revelation 2:1-5 and see their stand before they fell.
Revelation 2:5: “Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent.”
David once fell into sin, Saul once fell into sin, Solomon once fell into sin, Ananias and Sapphira once fell into sin, Lucifer once fell into sin! The lists are endless. These people were saved but somewhere along the line they fell into sin. Some had the grace to repent and utilized it while others wasted it, some didn’t have the grace to repent.
Those that said these people were not truly saved at first should bring evidence from the Bible and not self-assumption. You don’t assume the Bible, you believe it!
If once saved forever saved is true, why did the apostles write to believers that they should not commit sin and warned them to flee from fornication? The Bible talks about repentance in various chapters.
Eternal salvation is for those who always obey God. Once you disobey God, you will lose it just like King Saul in the Bible. The only way to reclaim it is through repentance.
Hebrews 5:9: “And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;”
Saved by Grace to Obey God
The OSAS counterfeits want to say that any obedience or good works for Jesus mean you are seeking to earn your own salvation. But the Bible tells us that we are saved by grace through faith which will always produce the fruit of good works. In fact we are created in Christ to do them!
“For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. 10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.” Ephesians 2:8-10
He saved us by His grace to be “his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.” Any questions?
Jesus requires that we overcome in order to reign with Him.
“And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:” Revelation 2:26
Those who keep His works to the end are those who trust and worship Christ and not self – He is their “first love.” (Revelation 2:4-5) Their works do not save them and yet they clearly prove they are His.
“Unto the end” is a requirement for eternal glory, otherwise you will be vanquished into the bowels of eternal damnation irrevocably. Faith is required by God to receive Christ’s salvation, and true saving faith always produces good works (Ephesians 2:8-10).
Isn’t our obedience to Jesus our LORD an expression of our love for Him?
“If ye love me, keep my commandments.” John 14:15
What did Jesus say concerning our lights shining and “good works”?
“Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.” Matthew 5:16
“Be careful to maintain good works”
“This is a faithful saying, and these things I will that thou affirm constantly, that they which have believed in God might be careful to maintain good works. These things are good and profitable unto men.” Titus 3:8
O the endless stream of cowards who seek to evade personal accountability ….. In dealing with yet another heretic, I recently wrote concerning a man who believes he has no personal responsibility to worship, walk with, obey, and engage in an intimate abiding relationship with the Savior He claims saved him (John 15:1-6). He assumes no accountability because he seeks to use Jesus to get him to Heaven but has no interest in the cross Jesus says one must take up daily to truly follow Him-otherwise such a counterfeit is not following Him (Luke 9:23-24). Repent now sinner.
Moral cowards migrate to the “eternal security” heresy because they simply do not want to genuinely repent, to change. They want the crown but not the cross. They vainly believe they are going to use the Savior to get them out of hell yet want nothing to do with a worship-filled, engaged, abiding, fruit-bearing, obedient relationship with the Son of God while on earth. These are the rebels who will hear the LORD declare to them “Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:” (Matthew 25:4. Read John 15.)
In the biblical model of salvation, you’re not free to sin, you’ve been saved from sin, blessed to live free from sin.
“For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.” Romans 6:14
You are now the servant of God, not sin.
“But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life.” Romans 6:22
Those who go back to sin after being saved, are in danger of hell fire – unless they repent and return to the LORD:
“For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.” Romans 6:23
The wages of sin is STILL death (Ezekiel 18:4; Romans 6:23). God’s grace never changed His definition of sin. God will judge, will damn the souls of every person who dies in sin – whether they were saved in the past or not (Ezekiel 33:12-13; Revelation 22:11, etc.).
Lawless Workers of Iniquity
This warning below from Christ clearly tells us that “MANY” today who call Jesus “Lord”, who claim they are saved, are not.
“Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity (lawlessness).” Matthew 7:21-23
Joe Mann writes:
“When a person does what CHRIST JESUS HIMSELF tells them to not do or do…. it’s not their own work’s…..is it???
Besides a person is not in the PROCESS of being SAVED BY & until BELIEF in WHO & WHAT?
Luke 6:46-49
46 And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say? 47 Whosoever cometh to me, and heareth my sayings, and doeth them, I will shew you to whom he is like: 48 He is like a man which built an house, and digged deep, and laid the foundation on a rock: and when the flood arose, the stream beat vehemently upon that house, and could not shake it: for it was founded upon a rock. 49 But he that heareth, and doeth not, is like a man that without a foundation built an house upon the earth; against which the stream did beat vehemently, and immediately it fell; and the ruin of that house was great.”
Simply put, those who teach OSAS/eternal security/Calvinism, are sin-justifying, grace-perverting heretics.
The 5 points of Calvinism are utterly false, each and every one of them. Personally, I wear the scorn of the wicked eternal security and calvinist hereticks, as a badge of honor. According to the Holy Spirit’s warning through Jude, these have perverted the faith of the original Gospel of Christ and call it “the doctrines of grace” while they specifically pervert the grace of God. These are “ungodly men” who are “turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness” (license for sin) (Jude 4). We are to “earnestly contend” against them (Jude 3).
You could openly curse the Son of God and they’d say little or nothing. Yet, soon as you expose the lying falsehoods they hide behind and use to justify their sins, those devils behind those “doctrines of devils” manifest (1 Timothy 4:1-2).
Calvinist/osas heretics insist that one is devaluing the perfect payment of Christ on the cross for our sins…. are they?
Jesus’ work was perfect and this same JESUS gave conditions for man to appropriate His salvation. To say otherwise would be to say that everyone is going to Heaven, not matter what which is the heresy we call universalism. Yet some wish to ignore those conditions, those things God requires of anyone who will know and walk with Him. Many have bought lies, half-truths and aren’t being honest with the whole counsel of God’s Word. Jesus told His own 12 they had to “endure to the end” to be “saved” (Matthew 10:22; 24:13).
“Saved by grace through faith. Lets break this down for those who don’t understand… Its by Gods grace we’re offered the gift of salvation; yet that gift of salvation is activated through faith!! Without faith no man can please God. And if people think for one second they’re forced to abide or remain in the faith, they better get back in the word. Jesus even said that he is the true vine, and if we don’t remain in him, we are cut off… OSAS teaching is a lie! We must work out our salvation in fear and trembling before the Lord daily!! Endure unto the end!” Cristina
Specifically speaking to HIS own, Jesus says they must “abide” in Him or they will be cast into the fire (John 15:6).
“If a man abide not in me (does not remain with me), he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.” John 15:6
Response to a proponent of OSAS:
Please explain to all of us why EVERY person in the world isn’t automatically saved…. after all, Jesus paid the full price for their sin…. And, show us all in God’s Word how men don’t have free will. “Doctrines of grace” to you are actually the corruption of God’s saving grace and Jude warned us about vile wolves, “ungodly men” like you who turn the saving grace of God in Christ into a license for sin.
“For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness (license to sin), and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.” Jude 4
Here’s a Scripture text on true saving grace that you are allergic to and that your phony “grace teachers” never mentioned….
“For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, 12 Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;” Titus 2:11-12
Every false teacher is going to hell (2 Peter 2:1-3).
Calvinists speak of “doctrines of grace” while intentionally ignoring and evading Bible passages on grace such as Titus 2:11-12. Calvinists are con men. They are fulfilling the Holy Spirit’s prophecy through Jude as they over emphasize grace while deliberately evading certain grace Scriptures and mountains of truth (Jude 4). What about holiness – God’s holiness, and the truth that He said “Be ye holy for I am holy”? See 1 Peter 1:15-16. You purposely ignore it because you simply don’t want to die, to lay down your life in this fleeting world, to be crucified with Christ. Counterfeit. | Grace vs Holiness
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Apostasy
The Goal of the Ungodly Eternal Security Teachers [podcast]
“Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints. 4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness (license to sin), and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.” Jude 3-4
“This is AWESOME! You got all over it. It really flowed. Excellent! In the delivery, your excitement and passion for this subject are unmistakable. How can ANYONE listen to this and not want to check out the Word of God for themselves?” Debbie L.
“Thy prophets (false leaders) have seen vain and foolish things for thee: and they have not discovered (exposed) thine iniquity (have not uncovered your sin), to turn away thy captivity (to get you set free from it); but have seen for thee false burdens and causes of banishment (ultimate termination into hell).” Lamentations 2:14
COUNTERFEITS who hide behind their OSAS fairy tale HATE this biblical reality and are willing to call the LORD a liar in order to retain this heresy – “And he that overcometh, and KEEPETH my works UNTO THE END, to him will I give power over the nations:” (Revelation 2:26)
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Apostasy
How is God’s Money to be Spent by His Church? [podcast]
Have you ever noticed when volunteers go to the mission field on a short term mission trip….
“And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; 12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:” Ephesians 4:11-12
The highest paid position, calling in the church is what?
“the elders that rule well”
“Let the elders that rule well be counted worthy of double honour, especially they who labour in the word and doctrine. 18 For the scripture saith, Thou shalt not muzzle the ox that treadeth out the corn. And, The labourer is worthy of his reward.” 1 Timothy 5:17-18
“For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. 14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher? 15 And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!” Romans 10:13-15
The love offerings of Christ’s saints are to be spent equiping His saints to spread His Word, His Gospel to the end of the earth. This is the Great Commission mandate Jesus gave us. Are you living it out?
“And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. 19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: 20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.” Matthew 28:18-20
“And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.” Mark 16:15
“Don’t bother me” with the needs of others is the crass, cold, calloused response of those who don’t step forward to contribute. Darkness consumes their life and Jesus is calling them out of that darkness and into His marvellous light! They are totally consumed in their own life—and that’s the problem, the sin. Repentance needed. Divine refreshing will only come after true repentance (Acts 3:19). God will never bless a selfish person (Matthew 20:20-28; Philippians 2:3-5). The LORD will always bless those who are given to Him and therefore giving to His work (Luke 6:38; 2 Corinthians 9:6-11).
When we spend all our money on self, who does that reveal we are serving—the Savior or self?
“No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.” Matthew 6:24
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