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More Catholic Witchcraft Infiltrating the Apostate Seminaries, Ministries, and Churches

“Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; 2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron.” 1 Timothy 4:1-2

WHAT is spiritual formation / contemplative prayer or centering prayer?

Spiritual formation/contemplative prayer/spirituality is just another self-centered, Christ-denying, self-righteous, works-based, occultic, pagan lie from hell!

Seminaries teach it and now many churches today are practicing new age witchcraft called contemplative prayer, or centering Prayer which is part of spiritual formation.  It’s coming out of the Vatican which alone means it is of Satan. The following is taken from centeringprayer.com…

“Centering Prayer is a METHOD OF PRAYER, which prepares us to receive the gift of God’s presence, traditionally called contemplative prayer. It consists of responding to the Spirit of Christ by consenting to God’s presence and action within. It furthers the development of contemplative prayer by quieting our faculties to cooperate with the gift of God’s presence…

Centering Prayer is drawn from ancient prayer practices of the Christian contemplative heritage, notably the Fathers and Mothers of the Desert, Lectio Divina, (praying the scriptures), The Cloud of Unknowing, St. John of the Cross and St. Teresa of Avila.. It was distilled into a simple METHOD OF PRAYER in the 1970’s by three Trappist monks, Fr. William Meninger, Fr. Basil Pennington and Abbot Thomas Keating at the Trappist Abbey, St. Joseph’s Abbey in Spencer, Massachusetts.

Christian Contemplative Prayer is the opening of mind and heart – our whole being – to God, the Ultimate Mystery, beyond thoughts, words and emotions, whom we know by faith is within us, closer than breathing, thinking, feeling and choosing; even closer than consciousness itself. The root of all prayer is interior silence. Though we think of prayer as thoughts or feelings expressed in words, this is only one expression. Contemplative Prayer is a prayer of silence, an experience of God’s presence as the ground in which our being is rooted, the Source from whom our life emerges at every moment.”

ARE you seeking to experience God OR to KNOW HIM? (John 17:3)

“People want a word from God instead of the Word OF God.” Warren Smith

One Christian ministry defines this witchcraft this way:

“Contemplative/centering prayer promotes emptying the mind and experiencing a self-induced trance similar to the TM transcendental meditation practices taught in Hinduism. I believe voluntarily surrendering control of one’s mind exposes an individual to demonic influences. In contrast, God’s Word commands that we are to be ever sober and vigilant rather than slaves of hypnotic euphoria.

“Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour: 9 Whom resist stedfast in the faith, knowing that the same afflictions are accomplished in your brethren that are in the world.” 1 Peter 5:8-9 

“But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, 23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. 24 And they that are Christ’s have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.” Galatians 5:22-24

The other great danger of the contemplative prayer movement is that it serves as a bridge between evangelical Christians and Roman Catholicism. Teresa of Avila was a faithful follower of Roman Catholicism’s false gospel of salvation through sacramental grace and merit. If your pastor proposes a contemplative/centering prayer initiative, it’s definitely time to find a new church.”

This is but a mere taste of what’s being taught in Satan’s seminaries and therefore by the seminarian wolves who’ve run the professing church world on a nose dive into apostasy (Isaiah 9:16).

The prayers of God’s people are answered due to the matchless name of Jesus Christ.

“Jesus saith unto him, I am THE way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.  … And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.” John 14:6, 13-14

“And in that day ye shall ask me nothing. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, he will give it you. 24 Hitherto have ye asked nothing in my name: ask, and ye shall receive, that your joy may be full.” John 16:23-24

“For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;” 1 Timothy 2:5

When the Bible speaks of meditation it’s always associated unchangeably with meditation on God’s written Word!

“This book of the law shall not depart out of thy mouth; but thou shalt meditate therein (in the written Word) day and night, that thou mayest observe to do according to all that is written therein: for then thou shalt make thy way prosperous, and then thou shalt have good success.” Joshua 1:8

“But his delight is in the law of the LORD; and in his law (written Word) doth he meditate day and night.” Psalms 1:2

SADLY, modern seminarians are teaching occultism: spiritual formation and contemplative prayer/centering … required classes.

What the difference between yoga and spiritual formation/contemplative prayer? Very little.

Protestant seminaries were infiltrated in the 1950’s and 60’s by the Jesuits. They did this to stop the anointed preaching from the real Bible (KJB) which resulted in the loss of millions of souls trapped in the darkness of the antichrist roman catholic church.

Below are apostate ministries which are listed in alphabetical order. OR, if you re looking for a specific ministry, simple hit control F for find and put part of the name of that organization in the box.

DIVINE FILTER: All false movements and false teachers serve a divine purpose. They are allowed to snare all who don’t truly love Christ and therefore His Truth! Study 1 Corinthians 11:19; 2 Thessalonians 2:9-12 closely. 

This below is a list of apostate ministries, seminaries, Bible colleges that are now promoting Spiritual Formation.

Abilene Christian University (Church of Christ) Abilene, TX (e.g. labyrinth)

Acadia Divinity College (Baptist) Nova Scotia, CANADA

ACTS Seminaries of Trinity Western University, BC, CANADA

Alberta Bible College (Church of Christ) Calgary, Alberta, CANADA

Alliance Theological Seminary (CMA) Nyack, NY

Ambrose University (CMA), Calgary, Alberta, CANADA (e.g., spiritual formation) (information)

American Christian College & Seminary (closed in 2005), Oklahoma City, Oklahoma

Anderson University (Church of God) Anderson, IN

Anderson University, Anderson, SC (Invited Sue Monk Kidd to a speaking event in March 2011)

Asbury Theological Seminary (UM), Wilmore, KY

Ashland Theological Seminary, Ashland, OH (e.g., The Shack)

Assemblies of God Theological Seminary, Valley Forge Christian College Branch Campus, Phoenixville, PA

Southeastern University (AOG) Lakeland, FL

Azusa Pacific University, Haggard School of Theology, Azusa, CA (e.g. Nouwen)

Baptist Theological Seminary of Southern Africa, Barclay College, Haviland, KS

Baylor University, Waco, TX

Beeson Divinity School, Birmingham, AL

Belmont University, Nashville, TN

Bethel University (East Coast campus), St. Paul, MN

Bethel Seminary, San Diego, CA

Biblical Theological Seminary, Hatfield, PA, Biblical Training (online)

Biola University, La Mirada, CA

Blufton University (Mennonite), Blufton, OH

Briercrest Bible College, Saskatchewan, CANADA

Bryan College Dayton, TN

California Baptist University. Riverside, CA

Calvin College, Grand Rapids, MI

Campbell University, Buies Creek, NC

Campbellsville University, Campbellsville, KY

Canadian Mennonite University, Winnipeg, Manitoba, CANADA

Carey Institute, Vancouver, BC, CANADA

Carson Newman University, Jefferson City, TN

Cedarville University (Reformed Presbyterian), Cedarville, OH

Central Christian College (Free Methodist), McPherson, KS

Christian Theological Seminary, Indianapolis, IN

Christian University (GlobalNet), ministry of RBC Ministries – online

Cincinnati Bible Seminary (of Cincinnati Christian University), Cincinnati, OH

Cincinnati Christian University, Cincinnati, OH

Colorado Christian University, Lakewood, CO

Columbia Theological Seminary (Presbyterian), Decatur, GA

Columbia International University. Columbia, SC (e.g. labyrinth, Syllabus)

Corban University, Salem, OR

Cornerstone University, Grand Rapids, MI

Covenant Theological Seminary (Presbyterian), Nashville, TN

Crown College (CMA), Saint Bonifacius, MN

Dallas Theological Seminary, Dallas, TX

Drew University, Madison, NJ

Duke Divinity School (Duke University), Durham, NC

Eastern Mennonite Seminary, Harrisonburg, VA

Eastern Nazarene College, Quincy, MA

Eastern University, St. Davids, PA

Emmanuel Bible College, Kitchener, Ontario, CANADA

Emmanuel School of Religion, Johnson City, TN

Fresno Pacific University (Mennonite), (Fresno Pacific Biblical Seminary), Fresno, CA

Friends University, Wichita, KS

Fuller Theological Seminary, Various Campuses Throughout US

Garrett Evangelical Theological Seminary, Evanston, IL

Gateway Seminary (SBC), 6 Locations

George Fox Evangelical Seminary, Newberg, OR

Golden Gate Baptist Theological Seminary, California and Arizona

Gordon College, Wenham, Massachusetts

Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary, South Hamilton, MA

Goshen College (Mennonite), Goshen, IN

Grace College & Theological Seminary, Winona Lake, IN

Grace University, Omaha, NE

Grand Canyon University, Phoenix, AZ (connected with Ken Blanchard and has a spiritual formation program)

Greenville College (Free Methodist), Greenville, IL

Harding University, Searcy, AR

Harding School of Theology, Memphis, TN

Heritage College & Seminary, Kitchener, ON, CANADA

Hesston College, Hesston, KS

Hope College, Holland, MI

Hope International University (AKA: Pacific Christian College), Fullerton, CA

Houghton College, Houghton, NY

Indiana Wesylan University, Marion, IN

Intervarsity Christian Fellowship NW, Portland, OR

John Brown University, Siloam Springs, AR

Lancaster Bible College, Lancaster, PA

Lee University, Cleveland, TN

Le Tourneau University, Longview, TX

Lincoln Christian University, Lincoln, IL

Liberty University, Lynchburg, VA

Lindsey Wilson College, Columbia, KY

Lipscomb University, Nashville, TN

Luther Rice Seminary/University, Lithonia, GA

Mars Hill Graduate School (see Seattle School of Theology & Psychology), Bothell, WA 98021

Malone University, Canton, OH

Messiah College (Brethren in Christ Church), Mechanicsburg, PA

MidAmerica Nazarene University, Olathe, KS

Milligan College, Milligan College, TN

Montreat College, Montreat, NC

Moody Bible Institute, Chicago, Illinois

Mount Vernon Nazarene, Mount Vernon, OH

Multnomah University, Portland, OR

Nebraska Christian College, Papillion, NE

New Orleans Baptist Theological Seminary, New Orleans, LA, (Dr. Francis Kimmitt)

Northern Baptist Theological Seminary, aka Northern Seminary, Lombard, Chicago, Rockford, IL

Northeastern Seminary, Rochester, NY, seminary@roberts.edu

Northern Seminary, Lombard, IL

Northpark University, and Northpark Theological Seminary, (Evangelical Covenant Church), Chicago, IL

Northwest Nazarene University, Nampa, ID

Northwestern College, Orange City, IA

Northwestern College (University of Northwestern), St. Paul, MN

Nyack College (CMA), Nyack, NY

Oklahoma Baptist University (SBC), Shawnee, OK

Oklahoma Christian University, Oklahoma City, OK

Oklahoma Wesleyan University, Bartlesville, OK

Olivet Nazarene University, Bourbonnais, IL

Oral Roberts University, Tulsa, OK

Our Daily Bread Christian University (online)

Ozark Christian College, Joplin, MO

Pacific Rim Christian College, Honolulu, HI

Palm Beach Atlantic University, Palm Beach, FL

Peace River Bible Institute, Sexsmith, AB, CANADA

Pepperdine University (Bible Lectures), Malibu, CA

Phoenix Seminary, Phoenix, AZ

Point Loma Nazarene, San Diego, CA

Prairie College of the Bible, Alberta, CANADA

Providence College and Seminary, Otterburne, Manitoba, CANADA

Reformed Theological Seminary, Several locations in U.S.

Regent College, Vancouver, BC, CANADA

Renovare Institute, Denver, CO

Roberts Wesleyan College (Free Methodist), Rochester, NY

Rockbridge Seminary, Springfield, MO 65804

Rocky Mountain College, Calgary, Alberta, CANADA

Rolling Hills Bible Institute, Rolling Hills Estates, CA

Samford University, Birmingham, AL

Seattle Pacific University (Free Methodist), Seattle, WA

The Seattle School of Theology & Psychology, Seattle, WA

Shorter University, Rome, GA

Simpson University (CMA), Redding, CA

Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary, Wake Forest, NC

Southeastern University, Lakeland, Fl

Southern Nazarene University, Bethany, OK

Southern Wesleyan University, Central, SC

Southwest Baptist University, Bolivar, MO

Spring Arbor University (Free Methodist), Spring Arbor, MI

Talbot School of Theology (Biola), La Mirada, CA

Taylor Seminary/Taylor College, Edmonton, AB, Canada

Taylor University, Upland, IN

Tennessee Wesleyan College, Athens, TN

Texas Christian University (Disciples of Christ), Fort Worth, TX

Toccoa Falls College (CMA), Toccoa Falls, GA

Trevecca Nazarene University, Nashville, TN

Trinity Western University, Langley, B.C., CANADA

Trinity International University, Deerfield, IL

Tyndale University College & Seminary, Toronto, CANADA

Union University, 3 Locations in TN

University of Northwestern, St. Paul, MN

University of Valley Forge (AOG), Phoenixville, PA

Vanguard University (Spiritual Formation Program), Costa Mesa, CA

Western Seminary, Portland, OR; Sacramento, CA; San Jose, CA

Western Theological Seminary, Holland, MI

Westmont College, Santa Barbara, CA

Wheaton College Graduate School (Spiritual Formation and Psychology), Wheaton, IL

Whitworth University, Spokane, WA

William Carey Institute, Vancouver, BC, CANADA

William Jessup University, Rocklin, CA

Note: All Christian Missionary Alliance Colleges in the USA promote Spiritual Formation

Note: All Nazarene Colleges & Universities in the USA . . . (is there some info missing here?)

Note: All Christian Missionary Alliance Colleges in the USA promote Spiritual Formation

Note: All Nazarene Colleges & Universities in the USA . . . (is there some info missing here?)

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Apostasy

Favorite Eternal Security “Proof” Text? [podcast]


Excerpt from the book Lie of the Ages

Does John 10:27-29 Prove “Eternal Security”?

WHO are Jesus’ Sheep? Defined by, in God’s Word.

John 10:27-29

My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father’s hand.” ~ John 10:27-29

Verse 27 is the condition necessary to appropriate the promises of verses 28-29.

Those who believe that a man can never lose his salvation, use this John 10:28-29 text but ignore the prerequisite, the divinely given condition – v27. Watch this:

Firstly, in this passage Jesus identifies those sheep whom He makes the security promise to. He says, “My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me.” In this we see one part divine and two parts the responsibility of the individual:

  • “I know them”—the divine part toward those who are truly in Christ, presently abiding (v. 27)
  • Those who are His sheep “hear” His “voice” and “follow” Him—the individual’s responsibility (v. 27)

The promise to be kept is a conditional promise which requires that we choose to continue to hear His voice and follow Him (John 10:27-29). Many today wrongly detach our LORD’s words in verse 27 from verses 28-29. In doing so, they perpetrate their “eternal security” mythology.

The problem for the eternal securists is that v27 has been intentionally been ignored…. It’s the actual condition Jesus gives for receiving the assurance promises He then gives in v28-29.

Those who seek to spread the “once saved always saved” heresy use John 10:28-29 to their advantage and conveniently ignore the preceding words of Christ in verse 27. Verses 28-29 are promises of security to those who have been genuinely born again and are currently abiding in Christ – hearing His voice and following Him (John 15:1-6). Many ignore the previous qualifying words (v. 27) of Jesus where Christ tells us that only those who are hearing His voice and following Him are promised that they are secure and will never perish. There is a condition to being secure in Christ—knowing Him—which requires continuing to abide in Him, hear His voice and follow Him (see also John 15).

“Jesus will neither leave us nor forsake us, but we can leave and forsake Him by choosing our sins OVER His love, grace and mercy!” Dino Filardo

Eternal securists have been taught to selectively interpret Scripture while ignoring mountains of Bible truth, in order to come to a predetermined conclusion.

Many a false teacher has built his own ministry empire dishonestly peddling this passage. Take a closer look. Anchor the promise to be kept in verses 28-29 on verse 27 where Jesus identifies who His sheep are – those who hear and continue to hear His voice and continue to follow Him (present tense). The promise to be kept is a glorious and yet conditional promise which requires that the individual recipient of the salvation gift of God chooses to continue to hear His voice and follow Him (John 10:27-29). Many today wrongly detach our LORD’s words in verse 27 from verses 28-29 of John 10. In doing so, they perpetrate their “eternal security” or otherwise called “once saved always saved” mythology. Beware as this was the first lie Satan told mankind, which led to the fall (Genesis 2:17; 3:4).

Instead of synthesizing the whole of Scripture, false teachers isolate certain verses for their own self-serving agenda and purpose (2 Corinthians 2:17, etc.).

The sheep Jesus’ promises are going to be kept are those who endure to the end, abide (remain) with Him (John 15:1-6). The Great Shepherd defines His sheep as those who are presently hearing His voice and following Him (present tense). John 10:27-29

It’s not difficult to mislead people in the direction of the sinful nature of their hearts – because then they can evade truly repenting which is a major life change and necessity for salvation. This is why Paul foretold of this hour and how men would “heap to themselves (false) teachers having itching ears.” (2 Timothy 4:3) “Itching ears” here represents unrepentant hearts.

OSAS people make a vain attempt at redefining the words of Scripture to fit their own self-serving agenda of lukewarmness, cross-less rebellion. For example they hyper-focus on “eternal” in the term “eternal life” while intentionally refusing to synthesize the whole of what Scripture states. They hyper-focus on the word “gift” and teach that a gift could never be lost which the rest of Scripture does not agree with. They then take the word “sealed” and make it to be permanent which it cannot possibly be because the same Greek word for “sealed” is used of Jesus’ tomb which we all know was NOT permanently sealed (Matthew 27:66). In this they bear false witness against the LORD and act like some Scriptures are more divinely inspired than others. This practice reveals the evil and deceit of their own hearts. Not just some Scripture in the Bible but rather “ALL scripture is given by inspiration of God…” (2 Timothy 3:16-17) It must all be synthesized, put together, compared (1 Corinthians 2:13). Error will result in the hearts and lives of those who do not search, study, and revere “ALL scripture” in God’s Word.

Eternal security deceivers don’t want to talk about Bible verses that contradict and expose their proof texts. You see, they don’t want to get awaken by the truth to the scam they’ve bought into. The wolves who they gullibly believe instead of God’s Word, taught them to cry “context, context” all while THEY are the beguilers who are taking Scripture out of context. Just like the demonic democrats in America, they accuse their adversaries of the exact thing THEY themselves are guilty of (Romans 2:1-3).

YOU are defending OSAS and yet you gave no Bible verses? Self-deception. If “once saved always saved” were true, WHY O WHY didn’t God tell us? Such a term, phrase, or concept appear no where in Scripture and the verses you use to “prove” it are taken out of their context. OSAS is undeniably the very first lie Satan ever told and it led to the fall of mankind from a HOLY God (Genesis 2:17; 3:4). If OSAS isn’t a doctrine of devils, nothing is! (1 Timothy 4:1-2)

Is the unchanging, Almighty God no longer “Holy, holy, holy” now that He sent His only begotten Son? (Isaiah 6:3; Revelation 4:8) If He’s still holy, no unrepentant person with sin will enter His holy Heaven (Revelation 21:8, 27, etc.).

“Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord:” Hebrews 12:14

HOW is it that so many treat the words of JESUS recorded in John 10 more divinely authoritative than the words of JESUS recorded in John 15? False teachers.

Most of the dupes who cite John 10:28-29 to “prove” they can never lose their salvation, 1. Don’t even know what the preceding verse says (v27), and 2. Have no clue what JESUS says in John 15:6.

“If a man abide (remain) not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.” John 15:6

In this John 10 passage used by the unconditional eternal security crew to peddle their wares, some neglect to look closely at verse 27 to see who Jesus was specifically speaking to when He promised “they shall never perish.” “They” refers to those who “hear my voice” and “follow me.” According to verse 27 the promise of eternal security is conditional. Assurance of salvation is only to those who are presently following Christ. In verse 27 we learn that protection from judgment to come is only to those who are currently 1) hearing His voice, 2) known by Him, and 3) following Him. This is consistent with the message seen in the whole of Holy Writ.

“For if AFTER they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are AGAIN entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. 21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, AFTER they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them. 22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit AGAIN; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.” 2 Peter 2:20-22 

WHO did Jesus say His true sheep are?

My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me” (Jn. 10:27). According to these words of Christ, those who “know” Jesus and “follow” Him are given the promise that they will “never perish.” As long as the follower hears His voice and follows Him, they are assured “eternal life.” This is exactly what the Son of God taught just a few chapters later in John 15 where He says that if a branch that is in Him does not remain or abide in Him, that person will be cut off and cast into the fire (hell).

Those who abide or remain under the shadow of His holy and protective wing shall remain secure in Him (Ps. 91:1). The Good Shepherd here said: “Neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.” No man can pluck us out of His protection except ourselves by our own decisions. We who are abiding are protected from the snare of other men drawing us away as we remain walking with the Son of God. If you’re tucked, you won’t get plucked. If you’re not tucked under the wing of intimacy with Jesus, you will, can, and are likely to be plucked out of His holy hand by your own sinful unbelief. The LORD told us “Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown” (Rev. 3:11).

It’s also notable that those who emphasize John 10 to convince themselves and others that they are “eternally secure”, don’t even know much less acknowledge the words of the Savior in John 15:1-6.

Telling.

“If a man abide (remain) not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.” John 15:6

Jesus taught repeatedly that some would not continue to follow Him (“abide”) and hear His voice and would consequently “fall away.” There is record of some who once believed and then stopped believing (Lk. 8:13; 13:23-30; Jn. 6:66; Acts 8:14-23).

Lie of the Ages (the book)

WHY do eternal securists get all upset when their fairy tale is exposed? Well, they are hiding behind the thin veneer of this heresy, feeling all secure, emboldened to live as they please, feeling assured in their lukewarmness and sin … denying Jesus instead of self, refusing to take up the cross that Jesus commanded all who would follow Him truly (Luke 9:23-24). Christ’s apostle Paul speaks of self-serving “enemies of the cross of Christ.” (Philippians 3:18-19) What’s behind this myth? The Psychology of Eternal Security [book]

Another Example of the Twisting of Scripture

The eternal securists seek to justify their OSAS heresy by misusing the following passage…. but in this Paul is speaking of those who go to Heaven, the judgment of saints, and not those who fell away and won’t be there because they will be in hell. They will not be present when this happens….

“Every man’s work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man’s work of what sort it is. 14 If any man’s work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. 15 If any man’s work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.” 1 Corinthians 3:13-15

One More….

Common Objection to Conditional Eternal Security….

“What about Romans 8:38-39 where it says nothing can separate us from the love of God?”

REPLY:

Simple: Notice the word LOVE not life. God will love us all the way into hell if we choose not to repent. His soul will even “weep in secret places for your pride” which comes before destruction (Jeremiah 13:17). The LORD is “Holy, holy, holy,” He’s just, and He will not ever coexist with sin. See the fall of lucifer (Isaiah 14:12-15; Ezekiel 28:13-19; Luke 10:18). The wages of sin is still death and the LORD will damn every soul that dies in sin, with no exception (Psalms 5:4; Habakkuk 1:13; Isaiah 6:3; Romans 6:23; Revelation 4:8; 21:8; 22:11, etc.). Read Jesus’s parable of the prodigal son Lk 15. Did the father love and miss his son? Yes. Did the father (represents God) go chase him down? No. The son who departed had to choose to return. Much truth there. Speaking of Romans, read 11:20-22. Now read 2 Peter 2:20-22 and the book of Hebrews.

1 John 2:19 is often also utilized to “prove” eternal security. Not.

“They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.” 1 John 2:19

Interestingly, the word “never” does not appear in this verse above which is so often used to “prove” OSAS. Let’s read it again with an objective mind. And, also remember what Jesus says about the primary importance of His teaching of the seed and the soil, the sower and the Word:

“And he said unto them, Know ye not this parable? and how then will ye know all parables?” Mark 4:13 

The honest student of the whole Counsel of God’s Word knows that numerous clear Bible truths reveal that a saved person can turn away from the LORD, so we know that the apostle John could not possibly be saying that a saved person could never depart from the LORD. In my opinion, this verse is the best argument the eternal security proponent has, yet it’s not enough. There must be two or three witnesses and not just one (2 Cor. 13:1). After a closer examination of this text, one will find that verse 19 does not teach or justify “once saved always saved.” When any one verse is taken to the exclusion of the whole Word of God, one will certainly misunderstand the doctrine of the LORD which can only be apprehended by “study.” (2 Tim. 2:15) This verse is like any other verse of Scripture – it must be taken in light of the entire Counsel of God. The context to be considered is 1 John 2:18-29).

In examining the context in which 1 John 2:19 is set, we see that false teachers whom John calls “many antichrists,” had come and were telling these believers that Jesus was not the Christ (v22).

Let’s look at verses 18 and 19 together:

“Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time. They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.” 1 John 2:18-19

Note here that it is specifically of these “antichrists” that John speaks and says that “if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.”

John was speaking of those who were once saved but then departed from the faith (1 Tim 4:1), they believed and then fell away (Luke 8:12-13) …. then departed from the believers in that fellowship.

Teddy Caldwell writes:

“OSAS insists that those are professing believers, but 1 John 2:18 says such people are antichrists. 1 John 2:22 says an antichrist is one who denies that Jesus is the Christ. Anyone who does that isn’t a believer and isn’t even trying to look like one.”

Concerning 1 John 2:19, Donald Stamps, in the Life in the Spirit Study Bible, writes:

“‘THEY WENT OUT FROM US.’ When the antichrists departed from their fellowship with true believers, they were not in a saving relationship with Christ. This allows for two possibilities: (1) They were never true believers to begin with, or (2) they had once been in a saving relationship with Christ but afterward abandoned their faith in Christ.”

Right here in verse 24 of this passage we see the doctrine of personal responsibility to “remain” in faithful obedience to the LORD or lose one’s place with God (1 Cor. 15:2; Gal. 6:9; Col. 1:23). This is a teaching found throughout Holy Writ – the divine requirement to stay saved or lose all in eternity, “suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.” (Jude 7)

“Let that therefore abide (remain) in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. IF (denotes condition) that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father. And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life.” 1 John 2:24-25

Verse 24 alone tells us that we cannot think that verse 19 means that someone who is at some point in right standing with God can never depart from Him and lose out. Also, verse 25 tells us that “eternal life” (not just rewards) is at stake and the promise contingent upon the believer abiding or remaining in that “which ye have heard from the beginning” which is the Gospel. “Eternal life” is assured as long as one is remaining rooted in Jesus Christ. This is the overwhelmingly consistent message of God’s Word.

In verse 26 John says “These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you.” Verse 19 is written about the deceivers who sought to “seduce” these disciples John was addressing and not of true believers.

With all of Scripture in consideration, we can conclude that 1 John 2:19 is a specific example and not a rule of doctrine.

If you truly wish to search out this matter, let me encourage you to closely examine, break down and study this entire text (1 Jn. 2:18-29). In order to ascertain truth, one must compare the verse in question with all other related Scriptures, beginning with the context in which the verse is set (Isa. 28:9-10; 1 Cor. 2:13).

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IF THE WORD isn’t flowing into you daily, you are falling away. Flood and fuel your heart and mind and body with the pure, the holy light of God’s Word daily and you will never famish! All darkness will be vanquished (Psalms 119:130). All who have been saved and yet aren’t in God’s Word and prayer daily – have rejected Christ, with no exception. Re-turn to the LORD prodigal. There’s no good outside of Christ the KING.

“The entrance of thy words giveth light; it giveth understanding unto the simple.” Psalms 119:130

ALL who are not in God’s written Word daily are not hearing from God, do not have God’s wisdom and direction, and are walking in darkness – 100%.

The feeding of Christ’s flock would integrally involve exhorting them to diligently study and walk in God’s Word themselves, daily (John 21:15-17). Isn’t this exactly what the apostle Paul told Timothy to do? Yes. He told his understudy to “Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.” (2 Timothy 2:15)

One of the ways we know who the false ministers are, is that they want people dependent on THEM, not God. So, they don’t constantly exhort the people to get into God’s Word, the Holy Scriptures, for themselves. Run.

“This book of the law shall not depart out of thy mouth; but thou shalt meditate therein day and night, that thou mayest observe to do according to all that is written therein: for then thou shalt make thy way prosperous, and then thou shalt have good success.” Joshua 1:8 

“He taught me also, and said unto me, Let thine heart retain my words: keep my commandments, and live. … My son, attend to my words; incline thine ear unto my sayings. 21 Let them not depart from thine eyes; keep them in the midst of thine heart. 22 For they are life unto those that find them, and health to all their flesh. 23 Keep thy heart with all diligence; for out of it are the issues of life. Proverbs 4:4, 20-23

“Thy words were found, and I did eat them; and thy word was unto me the joy and rejoicing of mine heart: for I am called by thy name, O LORD God of hosts.” Jeremiah 15:16

“Neither have I gone back from the commandment of his lips; I have esteemed the words of his mouth more than my necessary food.” Job 23:12

Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom; teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord.” Colossians 3:16

“Over the last 5-10 years I can see where He has done this for me already, but the problem is …. it’s not enough! I want even more! One hour of study and prayer in the morning is not enough!” Christine

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