Divinely Inspired and Preserved
The King James Bible is the prophesied final preservation of God’s Word in English.
Many things establish that the King James Bible is the preserved Word of God for the English speaking peoples. Here’s one of those indicators.
“The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. 7 Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.” Psalms 12:6-7
See the fulfillment of this prophecy?
1. Tyndale Bible (1525)
2. Coverdale Bible (1535)
3. Matthews Bible (1537)
4. Great Bible (1538)
5. Geneva Bible (1560)
6. Bishop’s Bible (1568)
7. King James Bible (1611)
So the English Bible, ultimately called the King James Bible, went through a purification process, exactly how God foretold it would in Psalms 12:6-7.
Read this again:
Psalms 12:6 – 7
6 The words of the LORD [are] pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
7 Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.
The King James Bible for the English speaking peoples, is the fulfillment of the divine prophecy, the promise of Psalms 12:6-7.
One source notes:
“The King James Bible (KJB) and the English language have a deeply intertwined history, with the 1611 translation both shaping the development of modern English and eventually becoming more difficult to understand as the language continued to evolve.
The Impact on the English Language
The King James Bible has profoundly influenced the way English speakers write and speak. Many common idioms and phrases originated from or were popularized by the KJV, including:
- “Signs of the times”
- “Fly in the ointment”
- “Long-suffering” and “scapegoat”
Evolution of the Text
While the original 1611 text was written in Early Modern English, it has undergone various changes and standardizations over the centuries. [1, 2]
- Standardization (1769): To improve readability and fix early publishing errors, the Oxford edition of 1769 updated spelling (e.g., changing “speake” to “speak”) and standardized the language.
- Pronoun Distinction: The KJV intentionally used “thee,” “thou,” “thy,” and “thine” for singular address, and “ye,” “you,” and “your” for plural address to avoid ambiguity. Modern English has merged these into the generic “you,” which some argue can lead to a loss of nuance.”
Some people have the mistaken idea that somehow, when God’s Word in translated from one language to another, its lost it’s power, its impact. Is this true? No because God never let His hand off of His Word – He preserved it.
This position is actually the spirit of agnosticism influencing people which blames God for dropping the ball, for neglecting to be a part of the affairs of men.
“The most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will.” Daniel 4:32
Beware of those who do not understand that God is sovereign, that “the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men” (Daniel 4:32). If the Most High rules in the kingdom of men, that means He’s active in the affairs of mankind – always has been and always will be because He “is love” (1 John 4:8, 16). The LORD Himself was in charge of the translation of His Word into English, as He promised to preserve it to all generations. This is a cornerstone truth in understanding the real English Bible vs the counterfeits. The LORD used God fearing men throughout HIS-story to make sure all generations had His written Word. THIS is a cornerstone truth that if not remembered, could lead to one being deceived. We call them “Bible agnostics” because they believe God exists and yet they do NOT believe He has been active in the affairs of men. Heresy.
“Behold, he that keepeth Israel shall neither slumber nor sleep.” Psalms 121:4
God oversaw the canon of His Word, just as He promised to do in Psalms 12:6-7. It’s exactly how He desired, ordained it to be in the King James Bible. To say God checked out, was negligent, is a lie, is bearing false witness, and is an indictment against the Almighty (Psalms 121:4; Daniel 4:32, etc.). There were specific reasons those apocryphal books were not included in the real Bible, as opposed to the catholic “bible.”
Things to consider when questioning the canon of God’s Word….. God gave us what He wanted us to have in His 66 books …. God’s hand was on the putting together of His canon, His Word. The books that were rejected did not qualify. That doesn’t mean those excluded books don’t have some valuable information and yet, the LORD saw fit not to include them in the canon of His Word. Some use the term “Bible agnostics” for those who believe God lifted, took His holy hand off of the Bible, His Word, somewhere along the line. But Scripture assures us that such would be impossible.
Personally I give ZERO credibility to the myriad of fake “bibles” that have littered the landscape and minds of millions. Poison. LORD, thank You for Your preserved Word.
The Doctrine of Divine Preservation: Summation of the Jeremiah 36 Scenario
“In Jeremiah 36, God demonstrates that His word cannot be destroyed by human power. Even after King Jehoiakim burned the original scroll in an attempt to silence the message, God commanded Jeremiah to rewrite the prophecy, adding even more words to it.
- The Command to Write: God instructed Jeremiah to write down all the prophecies He had spoken against Israel and Judah since the days of Josiah. Jeremiah dictated them to his scribe, Baruch, who read them to the people.
- The King’s Rejection: When King Jehoiakim heard the scroll read, he showed complete contempt by cutting it with a penknife and burning it in a firepot. He sought to arrest Jeremiah and Baruch, but the Lord hid them.
- God’s Response: Burning the scroll did not destroy the message. God told Jeremiah to take another scroll and write all the former words that were in the first one.
- The Outcome: The new scroll not only contained the original words but also included additional prophecies of judgment against the king and his house.
- Divine Sovereignty: No earthly ruler has the power to extinguish God’s truth.
- Persistence of Scripture: God’s word is enduring and will accomplish its purpose regardless of opposition.
- Accountability: Attempting to destroy the message does not remove the consequences of rejecting it.
To claim that God dropped the ball, that He didn’t keep His own word, and didn’t make sure the people of this day has His Word in their own language, just before He returns, is to say He is not love and does not care for those who are His children and alive on the earth today. To say that today we don’t have the in tact and fully living Word of God, is to completely pervert the character and truth the LORD has revealed to us of Himself.
To believe God inspired His Word in the originals and yet didn’t “preserve” them to every generation thereafter, is to indict God as being unloving, uncaring, and a liar, etc.
Oh and it seems that the people denying that we truly have God’s actual Word today, relish this as yet another excuse for them to live in sin. After all, we really don’t have and can’t understand God’s will, right? Wrong.
Did the LORD not make provision for His Word to be preserved to us?
Was His holy hand not integrally involved in the original inspiration and then the translating of His Word from one language to another for all generations?
Does He not know, dwell in, and integrally participate in the past, present, and future? (Isaiah 46:9-10).
Anyone who thinks God’s Word loses it’s power or anything He intended to import to us in His words, is missing what the divine import and promise of Psalms 12:6-7. And they are indicting God for not keeping this promise…. as if His Word doesn’t possess, loses it’s divine power due to being brought from one language to another. That is deception.
The answer is clear. No confusion here (1 Corinthians 14:33). Either God preserved His Word to us, or He lied. See Psalms 12:6-7 again. Read it slowly. Believe God.
God’s Word was perfectly translated in the King James Bible according to the foretold purpose of God. God’s Word is Inspired by Him and Preserved by Him.
Pride is the root sin that refuses to believe God kept His promise to preserve His Word, in tact to us (Psalms 12:6-7).
Pride wants to be able to manipulate things to fit its own self-serving agenda. Pride is rebellious, doing its own thing in lieu of doing God’s will.
Pride-filled rebels who want to arrogantly decide what truth is for themselves, instead of humble adhering to the words of our Maker, refuse to believe God’s Word is pure and perfectly preserved. Like lucifer, their father, they have their own agenda and will perish. This is why so many love the new, the corrupted fake news “bibles” of our day.
“Well, for me it has to be ALL or NOTHING. If I can’t have faith in the Word of God being pure and perfect, there is NOTHING to believe. How would we know which part is true and which is false? I would have to make up my own beliefs…and end up in Hell!” Debbie Lord
Do we or do we not have God’s Word in our language, English?
Deceived people can be seen regurgitating lies such as “if you want to be accurate study the original languages (Hebrew, Greek), original words and meanings.” This seems to come from those who are wise in their own eyes and want to be considered “deep” and/or desire to be able to manipulate the meaning of Scripture. They do not wish to simply learn of God in their own language.
“Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. 6 In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths. 7 Be not wise in thine own eyes: fear the LORD, and depart from evil.” Proverbs 3:5-7
Yet God told us that He preserved His Word to us in our own language (Psalms 12:6-7). To say we can’t understand God’s Word in our own language and need the original languages would mean that no one can know God and His Word without going to learn those 2 now dead languages. We must cease peddling this lie and indictment against the LORD.
Eric Martini writes:
“I don’t need to learn Hebrew or Greek in order to understand God’s Word. I trust the Holy Spirit’s leadership of the translators of the King James Bible as God fulfilled His promise to preserve His Word to us in our language (Psalms 12:6-7). There’s much more behind why I use the KJB from my years of studies. The Word for Occult means hidden. So why would I have to learn Hebrew to get a secret understanding of what God is saying? God gave me exactly what He wants me to know in my own language. I don’t need to learn Hebrew. The enemy wants us to think we have to learn Hebrew and Greek in order to give one word many possible shades of meanings. Before you know it one person can say the Hebrew means this. The other person will say nope it means that. This is all a tactic to change doctrine. I trust the preservation of Scripture by the Holy Spirit who promised to do just that and God is not a liar! There is a much bigger subtle issue going on that many men have found out. For example, Jacob Prasch is so obsessed with the Hebrew he’s now mixing God’s Word with talmudic Judaism. So much for knowing Hebrew. Look where it got Jacob Prasch – he’s apostate.” | Jacob Prasch Exposed: Metatron Deception Busted
Do We Have God’s Word or Do You Need to Know the Original Languages?
If we DO have His Word, did He intend for us not to be able to understand HIS own Word in our language? What would be the use of Him having kept His promise to give us His Word in our language if we couldn’t understand it? | Bible Agnostics Exposed
God only ordained one Bible for our language. No other Bible was needed in English when the LORD gave us the King James Bible. Satan flooded the market with his counterfeit “bibles” peddled by his agents working within.
Some people don’t want there to be the real Word of God because if they know God really did give us His Word, and preserved it for us today, then they are accountable. And, personal responsibility, accountability is a plague to be avoided by un-repentant hell bound counterfeits.
Recently, when interacting with a man on Bible versions, he said: “I would just love to get my hands on a first century Bible I think that would be cool.”
REPLY:
No need to brother. GOD kept His promise to preserve His Word to us in this generation – Read Ps 12:6-7. Also, it’s SATAN who casts doubt on whether we really have God’s Word today. It’s Satan who is the liar (John 8:44). The King James Bible is the fulfillment of God to the English speaking peoples of the world.
WHENEVER you hear some wolf reading the King James Bible say “well, a better translation would be”, that’s your clue to rebuke that arrogant devil!
The King James Bible is the perfect preserved Word of God for the English speaking people (Psalms 12:6-7). As is always the case, God kept His promise perfectly. The King James Bible cannot and will not be improved and anyone pretending such is a fraud.
IF you believe the demonic notion that somehow God Almighty dropped the ball and didn’t follow all the way through with giving this generation His very Word, you are a Bible agnostic. You are calling God a liar (Psalms 12:6-7). Bible Agnostics Exposed
Those who don’t believe God could or did preserve His Word are unbelieving, faithless – and openly call God a liar! One disciple captures this truth when he writes:
“Jesus (from what we know) spoke Aramaic. But that has no bearing on anything. What language did Adam speak? What language did Job speak? Whatever language they spoke, God could TRANSLATE PERFECTLY to them so that they would get the EXACT WORDS that He wanted delivered. Do you not believe that He who bore our sins, healed the blind and raised the dead can deliver a perfect Word?”
SO MANY clueless frauds, amateurs, arrogantly claiming to be the authority on the Bible. Very few of them care to learn a few things. They insist they know it all when they are completely ignorant of the truth about God’s Word and how He kept His promise to preserve it to us in our language (Psalms 12:6-7). This reveals some serious depth of darkness these people are in. If they are casting doubt on God’s Word, they are under the power of SATAN who’s the first one to cast doubt on God’s Word (Genesis 3:1). And, we “know them by their FRUIT.” (Matthew 7:16, 20) True repentance needed.
WHEN someone casts doubt on God’s Word, in any way, they reveal they are not obeying God’s Word and refuse to. They are unrepentant (John 3:19-21; 8:47).
IF God’s Word doesn’t matter to you it could only be due to God Himself not mattering to you. If you have a King James Bible you have God’s Authentic Word in your own language and not a cheap counterfeit from the enemy of Christ and all souls.
Beware of those who want to refer to and rely upon the Hebrew and Greek because they simply do not like what the Bible, the Word of God says, in English, in their own language. They don’t believe God preserved His perfect Word to us in English – as He promised to do (Pslams 12:6-7). Many of them learned this in their vatican infiltrated seminaries and “bible” colleges. They were taught, not to believe, but rather to question God, to question His words – and we know where that comes from when we read Genesis 3:1, the serpent, Satan himself – the first to cast doubt upon and question God’s Word/words.
Learn Hebrew and Greek??? WHAT kind of a God would make/want people to not be able to understand HIS Word preserved in their own language and therefore make them have to go learn to read and write 2 now dead, foreign languages (Hebrew and Greek)? NOT the God of the Bible – who promised to preserve and make understandable His Word to us in our own language! (Psalms 12:6-7)
WHY would God have gone through the trouble of keeping His own promise to have His Word translated into our language if we weren’t going to be able to understand it in our own language? THAT is an indictment against the Almighty and some are foolishly making such an indictment.
LIFE CHANGING! No true Christian can grow in the grace of God as HE intends without pure, organic divine nutrition which is the preserved Word of God to the English speaking peoples, the King James Bible. This is something I want to encourage you to learn…. fascinating truth. The promise of God to us in Psalms 12:6-7.
God sovereignly made sure everything He wanted in His Word, the Bible, is there. Beware of those who cast doubt on this by their “lost books” notion.
The idea that there are ANY lost books is pure fiction and just another lie of Satan to make believers think they don’t have everything they need, that God shorted them (see Genesis 3:1). Satan is always the one casting doubt on God’s Word. Jesus says Satan is the one who “taketh away the word.” (Mark 4:15) This is not only laughable, it’s an indictment against a Holy God. GOD oversaw HIS cannon of Holy Scripture and decided it would contain 66 books. God’s Word assures us that “ALLLLLLL things that pertain unto life and godliness” are found in the “exceeding great and precious promises” of His written Word which we have in the King James Bible. Read 2 Peter 1:3-4 and 19-21 and Psalms 12:6-7.
God promised to preserve His Word to all generations and that would clearly mean the Word we have is divinely inspired with nothing lost. If you don’t believe that God has given us His Word in our day, you are calling God a liar and currently an agnostic which perhaps means you are not accountable to God in your life and so don’t want to believe we really have His Word today. Some wish to excuse their own sin by saying we don’t have God’s Word and surmise therefore that we are not accountable. Isn’t this the same principle of the driver who is pulled over for speeding, denying to the officer that there was a speed limit sign? We all know that won’t fly. – “they are without excuse.” (Romans 1:20)
Recently someone sent me a post that pretended to prove that the King James Bible is not God’s exclusive Word for the English speaking peoples. The first sentence gave away their erroneous position. The writer was saying that only the original manuscripts were inspired which is an unmitigated lie that denies that God kept His Word, His promise to preserve His Word to us – which transcends language (Psalms 12:6-7) This is what we call Bible agnosticism – where some people believe that God exists and yet is not active in the affairs of men, and has basically forsaken His creation. They claim He lied by not preserving His Word to us in our language as He specifically promised to do (Psalms 12:6-7). Ridiculous.
No need to read the ancient manuscripts – because God promised to preserve His Word to us in our language and He did in the KJB (Ps 12:6-7). With all due respect, did you know the BLOOD you claim to be washed in is removed from Colossians 1:14. Is that okay with you? 4 Verse KJB Comparison
Sherry Todd writes:
“The King James Bible is the very Word of God. You can reject it if you choose. I’m not going to. Didn’t turn out too well for king Saul did it? Rejecting the Word of the Lord brings dire consequences. No thanks. So you claim that the original text are perfect but not our Bible in English? Do you realize that you are saying that God decided that none of us today should have the incorruptible Word? Instead He gave us partial truths and is hiding His Word from us? Not. And you came to this conclusion how? You had to reject many verses to come to that conclusion including the direct promise of God in Psalms 12:6-7 to preserve His Word to all generations – that includes us! ‘God is not a man, that he should lie.’ (Numbers 23:19)”
—- IF PEOPLE can somehow convince themselves to think that God’s Word is not perfect and that most of it was “lost in translation,” they think they are somehow free to live as they wish or not truly die to self and conform to Christ in the daily cross. Self-idolatry and rebellion lie at the inner root of this. These are what some call “Bible agnostics.” Bible agnostics are those who believe that God gave us His Word originally but didn’t care enough to preside over the translation of it into our language …. as if to say the LORD is not still actively involved in His creation and the protection and blessing of His people, which is completely false and an evil indictment against the Almighty. This would be to say that God has changed and also that He doesn’t care about His own people today. Pure satanic lies. These people have bought the lie of Satan who was the first to cast doubt on God’s Word when he said “Hath God said?” (Genesis 3:1) In other words, did God REALLY mean that? Well, of course God meant what He had stated and booted the man and woman from His presence (the Garden) when they sinned (Genesis 3). Satan is today still doing this same exact thing by casting doubt on the perfect work of God who has preserved His Word for us (the English speaking people) in the King James Bible as He promised He’d do (Psalms 12:6-7). It’s not so much about the King James Bible as much as the manuscripts from which they came. The King James Bible comes from the Majority manuscripts while all the new versions were intentionally taken from the Catholic corrupted and controlled manuscripts (by satanic design). If you read a new version, you are reading a Catholic “bible.”
James Sanford writes:
“How can you be so blind on the issue of Bible preservation? Modern translations are the Catholic Church’s means to ‘divide and conquer’ Bible believing Christianity, and the reason (Isa. 1:18) for us being in the end times of apostasy. Paul said to Timothy, in verse one of chapter four, ‘…in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils.’ Where do you suppose these doctrines of devils, and confusion, come from? I could go on and on, but let the King James speak for itself: ‘For we are not as many which corrupt the word of God…’ (2 Cor. 2:17a)”
“I will worship toward thy holy temple, and praise thy name for thy lovingkindness and for thy truth: for thou hast magnified thy word above all thy name.” Psalms 138:2
Here’s how we know the new versions are corrupt – because God does not change and they changed His Word. “Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away.” (Mark 13:31) This is another verse divinely guaranteeing preservation!
God’s Word is Inspired and Preserved. The divine Word He gave to us is not only inspired but also preserved by Him. Did the LORD just inspire His Word and then walk away? Are we agnostic? He not only inspired but also preserved His written Word to mankind so we could know and follow Him and be protected from His enemies (Psalms 12:6-7). It’s Satan himself and his human agents, who have warred against God’s Word.
Please never question or correct the Authorized Bible…. It is God’s preserved Word for the English speaking people of His world (Ps 12:6-7). It’s our understanding that lacks, never God’s Word. As we continue to study the full counsel of His Word all things come clear.
Arrogant King James Bible Correctors Rebuked
Most believe the Bible is divinely inspired and that’s true and yet, many believe God somehow dropped the ball and forgot about subsequent generations. Is this true? Let’s reason according to the Word.
So, since all versions of the Bible are different, are we to believe they are all inspired and preserved?
Tampering with God’s Word distorts the perfect image of Jesus Christ because He has chosen to be revealed to the hearts of men by His Word as taught by His written Word. Changing those words He inspired corrupts the message and the image of Christ revealed through that communication.
“Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they (the Scriptures) ARE they which testify of me.” John 5:39
God Himself told us that He reveals Himself to us through His written Word (Luke 24:44; John 5:39-40; 20:31, etc.). And, He further told us that His will and wisdom are synonymous with His written Word (Psalms 119:105, etc.).
The Message and amplified “Bibles” are where sinful man inserted his own thoughts into the text and then called it God’s Word … in my opinion, we are to simply accept that God kept His Word; that He: 1) inspired His Word to us (2 Timothy 3:16) and, that He also “preserved” His Word to our generation (Psalms 12:6-7). That preserved Word is clearly the King James Bible.
AS WAS FORETOLD (REVELATION 12:7-12), SATAN HAS RELEASED HIS FURY (WRATH) AGAINST THE LORD AND MANKIND WITH THESE CORRUPT VERSIONS THAT ARE WEAKENING, SICKENING, AND MISLEADING MILLIONS WHO VAINLY THINK THEY HAVE AND ARE READING GOD’S WORD IN THESE MODERN fake news FAIRY TALE “bible” VERSIONS.
GOD’S WORD IS …
INSPIRED
“All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:” 2 Timothy 3:16
PRESERVED
“The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. 7 Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.” Psalms 12:6-7
“purified seven times” – In specific, perfect fulfillment of His promise, the KJB is the 7th Bible in the lineage of English language Bible, which began with the Gothic language in the first century which is the beginning of what is now the English language.
God’s Word is Inspired by Him and Preserved by Him, Yes God kept His Promise to Preserve His Word to Our Generation.
To say that God inspired His written Word (2 Timothy 3:16) and then to turn around and say He didn’t preserve those Holy Scriptures (Psalms 12:6-7), is a blasphemous indictment against Him. To say such is to call the LORD a liar because He promised to preserve His Word to our generation. It also says that God has respect of persons while His Word says “There is no respect of persons with God.” (Romans 2:11) So there is yet another accusation against the Almighty – another instance in which He is being called a liar. To insinuate that the LORD cared for earlier generations of people more than now is a dangerous undertaking.
We can know that if God inspired His Word He also preserved it to our generation. He kept His promise and yet there is a great deceiver working among men and his human emissaries. All the English versions of the Bible cannot possibly be divinely inspired. They are clearly and demonstratively different in word and doctrine. So where should one draw the line? For me, the decision is simple. The King James Bible is God’s preserved Word to the English speaking world. The corruption in the new versions is nothing more than a catalyst for my heart to be grateful to our LORD for giving us His true Word. I have never been so thankful to Him for inspiring and preserving His written Word to us so that we can know Him, remain in Him, and be delivered from the evil wiles of Satan.
It’s a dangerous undertaking to insert our own thoughts into the text of the Bible and then say it’s the Bible … those men are in severe trouble who have even slightly altered the very Word of God (Rev 22:18-19).
Do you want to be a part of a cursed thing?
“For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: 19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.” Revelation 22:18-19
WHY DID THE LORD GIVE US HIS WRITTEN WORD?
So We May Know Him
— We have God’s written Word in order to be able to have that relationship with the LORD – otherwise we could not know Him.
“But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.” John 20:31
That written Word has been displaced by these corrupted versions of God’s Word and they are misleading many. This is an integral part of the great falling away (great apostasy). See 2 Thessalonians 2.
The Bible tells us that the Holy Scriptures were not given to us by the will of mere men – “For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.” (2 Peter 1:21)
“No prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.” (2 Peter 1:21) – We can only prayerfully and according to the full counsel of Scripture give the sense of the Holy Scriptures (Nehemiah 8:8; Isaiah 28:10, 13; 1 Corinthians 2:13) (help them understand what Scripture states) but have no license to insert our thoughts into the text and claim it’s divinely inspired. God has never and will never grant any mere human being such a place. We have the Bible, which contains the divinely inspired Holy Scriptures “holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.” (2 Peter 1:21) Those involved in the new versions are “men of corrupt minds” with great audacity of rebellion.
“We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts: 20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. 21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost. 2 Peter 1:20-21
Where Does Mankind Obtain the Knowledge of the LORD His God and Maker?
How do we know about Jesus who died for us? By His Word. Where is John 3:16? In the Qur’an or the Bible? That being true, then we must realize that the enemy of Christ has corrupted His Words and then called it His Word.
The presence of the LORD is important but following His Word is more important … Then, upon that truth and protected by it, we can experience His presence and know it’s Him and not a devil.
His written Word is the very lamp unto our feet and light unto our paths so we will not be misled by a false gospel or another spirit.
The longest chapter in the Bible is on His written Word. This further underscores the importance He places on His written Word and hence the severe judgment upon those who would so much as slightly tamper with it. He has magnified His written Word even above His name (Psalms 138:2).
Jesus says that the Holy Spirit is the Teacher and if we simply put forth the pure Word of God, He will teach them (John 14:26; 16:13; 1 John 2:20; 27).
“So they read in the book in the law of God distinctly, and gave the sense (understanding, wisdom), and caused them to understand the reading.” Nehemiah 8:8
Note here that the elders of Israel, after and while reading directly from the Holy Scriptures – “caused them to understand the reading.” Causing folk to peer into, pay attention to, and read the Holy Word and also helping them understand what it’s communicating is divinely sanctioned in the important passage. There is much insight here. Notice that the elders humbly read the Word of God. They did nothing to insert their own thoughts, to question the text, to add to it or take from it, or to change the text.
Placing a commentary in the margin next to the Bible with the earnest goal of helping the reader understand what the Scriptures are saying is a form of giving “the sense” of what is being communicated by the LORD. This is in order to help the reader understand the text and never to take them outside of the text. Yet that’s as far as man is given license to go. Going further is a violation of Revelation 22:18-19 where the LORD pronounces eternal condemnation upon any mere man who would tamper with (add to or take away from) His written Word. The new versions are completely corrupted by man’s contaminating thoughts that were audaciously inserted into the text of Scripture.
Example of Attacks Against God in the New Versions:
—- IN JOHN 3:16 THE NIV (not inspired version) says: “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.” NOTE that supposedly referring to Jesus, saying that He is the “one and only Son.” Yet is this correct? No. This is a contradiction of other verses in the New Testament where we are said to be “the sons of God” and so how could Jesus be the “one and only Son”? More importantly, this idea purposely replaces the Bible doctrine of the virgin birth which is an essential to being saved. Jesus Christ was the only One in all of history to be born of a virgin – “Begotten of God” In the King James Bible, God’s pure and preserved Word says: “he gave his only begotten Son.” Jesus was the only begotten Son of God …the only One whom the Father brought through a virgin as a sign that He is the Messiah and so His blood was not contaminated by a sinful man (father) See Isaiah 7:14; 9:6-7 …. The divine heavenly Father was His Father … With the exception of Adam who was made of the dust of the earth, Jesus was the only sinless human ever born and of course we know He was more than human – He was and is and will always be God Almighty (Revelation 1:8). This is an attack on a cardinal doctrine of the Christian faith and just one more of thousands of attacks against the LORD in the new versions of the Bible which were translated from corrupt manuscripts. More on this here: Ridiculous King James Bible Corrections
QUESTION ASKED:
“So what about everyone before kjv? They didn’t have authoritative scripture? Are you suggesting King James had the right message and Paul and James and John and everyone else, like Geneva Bible were wrong? Also where did the KJV get the manuscript, before it was a book?”
REPLY:
Of course there was authoritative Scripture before the KJB. The KJB comes from the preserved manuscripts instead of the lineage of corrupt manuscripts which is where the enemy got his new version “bibles.” It’s obvious which English Bible is the preserved Word of God for the English speaking peoples – in keeping with the promise God gave in Ps 12:6-7. Comparing verses side by side between the KJB and the new “bibles” makes it more than obvious that the KJB is God’s Word. Lineage of the Corrupt Manuscripts
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“What is our language and when do you see that promise? The Lord promised to preserve His Word. His Word is for a people of all nations and tribes and tongues so what makes you assume that English was the final language the Bible would be in?”
REPLY:
Not at all. Common misconception. There are 2 lines of manuscripts – 1 of God (Majority Text) and 1 of Satan (appr 2-3% altered manuscripts). So it’s not about the English language but rather the underlying manuscripts. Appr. 98% of all the manuscripts in existence agree. The ones that differ are those which were perverted by evil men. All the new version “bibles” comes from the corrupted lineage of manuscripts. Yet, if you are a man of truth, a simple side-by-side comparison will clear things up with no need to know about he manuscripts. I don’t mean to insinuate that you aren’t a God fearing man and yet, it’s clear that you should do a bit of investigating. Lineage of the Modern Corrupt Versions | 4 Verse Comparison
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“The original text was Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek. Not 16th Century English. Just sayin'”
REPLY:
Hello. Not a good answer. Here’s why…. English was at it’s highest form in previous centuries (note in the Scriptures the term “holy and profane” where profane means common). God’s Word was never to be reduced to the common language especially when the gullible have been taught that it’s “easier to understand” yet not told that the new “bibles” stripped and perverted volumes of God’s Word). Hebrew and Greed are dead languages (not growing)…. the LORD promised to preserve His Word to us in our language, did He not? Did He lie? Read Ps 12:6-7.
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“If one has the other translations at their finger tips, and we do in this internet age, we owe it to ourselves to do comparisons and word studies, since we are easily able to now. We can go to the original Greek and Hebrew and really study deeply. I have discovered our well loved King James has used words that we don’t use anymore in English or the meaning has changed and when we read it is not giving today’s reader the exact meaning… so to be able to compare is best if you are a Bible student doing Bible study. Otherwise the Holy Spirit is with us when we study and pray and you will get what you need from the King James.” Michelle
REPLY:
Hi Michelle. Myself and many others have no respect for the other versions due to their butchering of God’s Word … for example, look at this comparison … frightening in light of what Jesus warned of in Revelation 22:18-19 … KJV vs. NIV
KNOWING Hebrew and Greek is NOT the most reliable way to understand God’s Word. In fact, you don’t even need it. And, the dupes running around saying you have to know Hebrew and Greek to understand the Word, can’t speak or write in Hebrew or Greek. Laughable. The Bible tell us how to understand the Bible!
Jesus told us that the divine Person of the Holy Spirit is our Teacher – not the Greek or Hebrew (original languages) (John 14:26; 16:13-14; 1 John 2:20, 27, etc.). Yes it’s good to look at the Hebrew and Greek here and there but His Word in our language, which He preserved (Psalms 12:6-7) and Himself are more than able to teach us. In fact, the very best way to learn is actually a system He put in His Word – line upon line learning – stacking Precept upon Precept (Isaiah 28:10, 13; 1 Corinthians 2:13). Thoroughly studying a topic by searching and stacking (collating) Scripture upon Scripture which speaks of that subject you are peering into, is the ultimate method to apprehend the mind of Christ on any topic … Not the original languages.
The good news is that we have God’s preserved Word and have no need to look further but rather to simply peer deeper into it. The new versions are corrupt and in my opinion should be shunned and discarded as any type of source. The King James Bible is a direct translation into the English language. The new version editors used “dynamic equivalence” which means they used/inserted their own thoughts. That’s a no-no and forbidden by God (Revelation 2:18-19). Correcting God’s Word is something I will not agree with. Show us where the KJB misses it? … the KJB uses Sodom and sodomy. Only the new versions use toned down, sin-justifying language to lessen conviction upon the hearts of sinners. Sodom was the city God judged for the specific sin of men with men. What KJB word can you not personally look up in the Hebrew and Greek to learn a bit further what it means? Do you have access to Webster’s dictionary (especially the older one)? It’s online.
The blessed brothers and sisters on the links I posted above have done detailed research for our benefit to uncover the dark, diabolical scheme of Satan to pervert the Word of our God. Please look at them … also Gail Riplinger’s books are very enlightening on this topic … there are many others also. AVpublications.com
Lamar Tucker notes:
“THE KING JAMES BIBLE UNDER ATTACK
We now have ‘educated’ idiots trying to discredit the Bible because as they claim it does not fit into or translate the way they think it should have been. The Bible does NOT make mistakes. IF one studies the Bible as a whole they will always find that God intended and did supply the reason for everything written. God knew that these so called scholars would come and he supplied a pure Language for the Bible to be translated in…The English Language.
Zephaniah 3 9 ‘For then will I turn to the people a pure language, that they may all call upon the name of the LORD, to serve him with one consent.’”
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FEEDBACK:
“I stopped reading the NIV about 3 years ago, I have grown so much as a believer since reading the KJV (the true word of God) but until it is shown for what it is (a counterfeit) by standing it up next to the KJV, it is hard to know a counterfeit on its own without comparison. The more I looked into it, the more I see the force behind the NIV…Satan. God bless you brother, the more brothers and sisters get to know the difference the better.
I never knew why was I was not growing, or learning as a believer till i realized it was what I was putting inside me spiritually as spiritual food, I wouldn’t say the NIV is poison, it just has no nutritional value, this is what Satan wants. He knows he can’t stop people reading the Bible, so he invented one of his own…NEW INVENTED VERSION. Look how many churches read from it!…And look at the state of the modern church!!” T. | Bible Versions
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Apostasy
Pride and False Prophets [podcast]
“And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.” Matthew 24:11
What’s the difference between true and false servants of the LORD?
Jeremiah 23 is essential concerning recognizing the “MANY false prophets” which Jesus foretold would “deceive MANY” in this late hour before His return (Matthew 24:11).
True servants of the LORD stand in the counsel, the WORD of the LORD and not in the evil imaginations, dreams, or visions of their own wicked hearts.
Jeremiah 23
“Thus saith the LORD of hosts, Hearken not unto the words of the prophets that prophesy unto you: they make you vain: they speak a vision of their own heart, and not out of the mouth of the LORD.
17 They say still unto them that despise me, The LORD hath said, Ye shall have peace; and they say unto every one that walketh after the imagination of his own heart, No evil shall come upon you.
18 For who hath stood in the counsel of the LORD, and hath perceived and heard his word? who hath marked his word, and heard it?
19 Behold, a whirlwind of the LORD is gone forth in fury, even a grievous whirlwind: it shall fall grievously upon the head of the wicked.
20 The anger of the LORD shall not return, until he have executed, and till he have performed the thoughts of his heart: in the latter days ye shall consider it perfectly.
21 I have not sent these prophets, yet they ran: I have not spoken to them, yet they prophesied.
22 But if they had stood in my counsel, and had caused my people to hear my words, then they should have turned them from their evil way, and from the evil of their doings.”
ARE YOU in God’s Word daily or have you backslidden? It’s either one or the other.
True servants of the LORD, as was the case with Paul and Timothy, will get YOU into God’s Word for yourself…
“Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.” 2 Timothy 2:15
“As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby:” 1 Peter 2:2
So both the LORD’s apostle Paul and the apostle Peter instructed believers to get into the Word of God for themselves – to “study” and to “desire” it. Any man pretending to represent Christ and not do this very thing repeatedly is a bona fide wolf in sheep’s clothing, a devil.
Imagine parents who continued to feed their infant and never taught that baby to pick up the spoon and feed themself…. so that child would perpetually be dependent upon someone else feeding them…. in the natural this is unheard of, yet it’s rampant in that which claims to be Christ’s “church.”
Read Jeremiah 23.
“But he giveth more grace. Wherefore he saith, God resisteth the proud, but giveth grace unto the humble. 7 Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. 8 Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded. 9 Be afflicted, and mourn, and weep: let your laughter be turned to mourning, and your joy to heaviness. 10 Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and he shall lift you up.” James 4:6-10
“Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.” 1 John 4:1
Pride vs Humility
“Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.” (Proverbs 16:18) True humility before God first, then men, always wins – “Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and he shall lift you up.” (James 4:10)
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Salvation is Not a One-Time Experience but a Lifelong Walk [podcast]
WE’VE BEEN LIED TO!
Salvation begins at a one time born again event and is ordained of the Savior to be for a lifetime and into eternal glory with Christ and His saints.
“And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:” Revelation 2:26
Christ’s work is finished, not yours (John 19:30). According to Holy Scripture, if you’ve been truly born again, you must abide in Christ, remain in Him, endure to the end or you will be cast into the fires of eternal damnation (John 15:6; Matthew 10:22; 24:13, etc.).
“Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.” Revelation 2:10
Enduring “to the end” is a condition for ultimately being in Heaven with the LORD.
“And ye shall be hated of all men for my name’s sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.” Matthew 10:22
The LORD Jesus and His apostles never once used the words “once saved always saved” or “eternal security.” So, who’s lying? What they did teach contradicts such a notion.
Who did Jesus promise is going to be “saved”?
“And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. 12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold. 13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.” Matthew 24:11-13
You MUST “walk in the light” of truth to the end of your life on earth to be with Jesus eternally (1 John 1:7). Only THEN will you be eternally secure!
“But IF we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.” 1 John 1:7
Since when is obedience to the truth legalism or works salvation?
“He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.” 1 John 2:4
Actually, if a person doesn’t have the fruit of good works in their life, it’s because either they have not yet truly been saved or due to their falling away (1 Timothy 4:1; 2 Peter 2:20-21, etc.).
“They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.” Titus 1:16
Who’s Going to Heaven and Who’s Not?
“Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.” Matthew 7:21
Who’s going to be with Christ eternally according to the Son of God?
“These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.” Revelation 17:14
Those who are “called, and chosen, and faithful.” God calls and chooses “ALL men to be saved” and yet it’s only those who repent, become converted and endure to the end (“faithful”) who will reign with Him eternally (Matthew 10:22; 24:13; 1 Timothy 2:4). He calls and desires all men to be saved and yet He will only save those who obey Him by repenting and putting their faith in Christ.
EVER WONDER why the OSAS adherent is often extremely vigorous about defending the unconditional eternal security sham he has bought into? What’s at stake for him? Why does he defend this teaching that has no ground in Scripture and that he has learned of men and devils?
The lame, refuses-to-take-personal-responsibility eternal securist hides behind his false facade that nothing he does including sin or doesn’t do affects or is related to his “relationship” with Christ. The word “fruit” appears 67 times in the New Testament canon. So is fruit important to the LORD? Good fruit, which includes good works doesn’t save us but it’s the clear proof that we know Him who came to do us and all mankind good by dying to bring us back to God (John 3:16).
PEOPLE who are hiding behind this satanic lie told by the serpent in the Garden become immediately irate and infuriated when the thin sham veneer of their pretention and self-preservation is pulled open by the truth. The light of truth shines into their darkened hearts. These want nothing at all to do with personal responsibility (Titus 1:16). They don’t care what the Bible teaches. They don’t want their little “eternal security” “I’m saved no matter what” myth busted because they are rebels at heart and refuse to truly surrender – which is what true repentance involves.
We need not kid ourselves, the fruit of our lives demonstrates clearly to God and man who we really are. Jesus taught “For EVERY tree is known by his own fruit. For of thorns men do not gather figs, nor of a bramble bush gather they grapes.” (Luke 6:44) …. “Even a child is known by his doings (works), whether his work be pure, and whether it be right.” (Proverbs 20:11)
The Calvinist and eternal securist wants to put the whole responsibility of salvation upon God because he wants no part of personal responsibility to “Be ye holy; for I am holy.” (1 Peter 1:15-16) This is cowardly is it not? “Fearful” in Revelation 21:8 means cowardly and the lake of fire awaits all who are.
“But as he which hath called you is holy, so be ye holy in all manner of conversation; 16 Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy.” 1 Peter 1:15-16
If you die in sin, HELL is where you end up in (Ezekiel 33:12-13).
What does Hebrews 12:14 guarantee us?
“Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord.” Hebrews 12:14
God sent His Son to pay the full price “for the sins of THE WHOLE WORLD” and those He calls and chooses must be “faithful” or full of faith “to the end” or they will be shut out of the eternal kingdom just as the five foolish virgins were who ran out of oil due to neglecting fellowship with the Bridegroom (Jesus) (1 John 2:2; Revelation 17:14; Mathew 10:22; 24:13). See Matthew 25:1-13.
Explain why we think a bride to be can be unfaithful, commit adultery, fornicate, just before the wedding, and still be accepted as the bride at her scheduled wedding. Delusional. If such were the case, why is this not illustrated, why does it contradict Jesus’ parable of the 10 virgins in Matthew 25:1-13?
If we don’t truly repent and become “honest” with the whole counsel of God’s Word and rather live our one life on lies, namely, the myth that we are “eternally secure”, we shall find ourselves in the domain of the damned, from which we shall never escape (Luke 8:11-15).
Anyone Going to Argue with Jesus?
Jesus taught us that one who is in Him (saved) must abide or remain in Him or that person will be “cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned (hell).”
“I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman. 2 Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit. 3 Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you. 4 Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me. 5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing. 6 If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned (hell).” John 15:1-6
Yes, salvation begins in the life of the sinner who has been drawn in and found by Christ and chooses to repent and put His faith in Jesus (John 1:12; 6:47; Acts 16:31; 20:21; Romans 3-5; Ephesians 2:8-9, etc.). Initial salvation is instant and yet that’s not the end of it … according to the record of the New Testament Scriptures. Christ and His holy apostles never spoke in terms of salvation being a one-time done deal.
Paul makes it clear that saving grace does NOT abound toward, in the life of any person who has been saved and yet is now living outside of Christ’s stated will, His Word.
“What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? 2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?” Romans 6:1-2
It’s time to get into the Word friends and cease to walk in delusions.
What is the agent that will cleanse the Great Tribulation saints? (Revelation 7:14) – “And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.”
The washing we are to receive of God by the cleansing blood of Jesus is not a one-time event but rather a lifelong walk/experience. Such is our walk with Christ – it’s an abiding relationship and to abide means to remain (John 15:1-6). And if we don’t remain in Him – we shall be “cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.” (John 15:6) (more on this verse in a moment)
“But IF IF IF IF we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.” 1 John 1:7
There are conditions for continuing to remain, to abide in Christ’s saving grace. Only counterfeits refuse to acknowledge this. They want no part with personal repentance, laying down their lives in this fleeting world, and truly following Jesus. No, they want the crown but not the cross. They don’t love Jesus enough to truly serve Him and so they buy into diabolical systems like the heretical “eternal security” or calvinistic systems.
The vast majority of pastors and writers today are in gross darkness and treat salvation as a one-time event instead of an abiding, a remaining walk with Christ “to the end” of our lives (Matthew 10:22; 24:13; John 15:1-6; Col. 1:23; Heb. 3:6, 12-15; 10:26-39, etc.). Many have espoused these lies because they have not chosen to get diligently and deeply into God’s Word for themselves but have rather followed other men’s selective line through Scripture. Those who aren’t diligently studying God’s Word daily are “not valiant for the truth” and will therefore be turned over to delusion and ultimately damned (Jer. 9:3; 2 Thess. 2:10-12).
“And they bend their tongues like their bow for lies (they go to the furthest lengths to embrace lies): but they are not valiant for the truth upon the earth; for they proceed from evil to evil, and they know not me, saith the LORD.” Jeremiah 9:3
Those who do not love divine truth (the Holy Scriptures) manifest plainly that they do not love He who is “the truth.” (John 14:6) God takes that personally and will actually help or assist in their delusions and damnation.
“And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.” 2 Thessalonians 2:10-12
God is able and will keep all who trust Him to the end and do not deny Him:
“Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy, 25 To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.” Jude 24-25
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FEEDBACK:
——- FROM Shannon Cook: “To the “once saved always saved theorists”
5 He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not “blot out” his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.
For something to be “blotted out” (i.e. removed) it would had to have been there in order to be “blotted out” which totally contradicts the theory of “once saved always saved.”
So, who is saved?
13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
Consider the warning to the church of Ephesus:
4 Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast “left thy first love.”
5 Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and REPENT, and do they first works;[or else] I will come into thee quickly, and remove thy candlestick out of his place, expect thou repent.
Laodicean Warning:
“And unto the angel of the church of Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, [the faithful and true witness], the beginning of the creation of God. 15 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot,I would thou wert hot or cold. 16 [So then] BECAUSE thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot,I will spue thee out of my mouth.” Revelation 3:14-16 pass it on – Heaven Guaranteed to all who have Received Jesus?
Amen, never to depart from the Christ, he shall walk with us as we endure till the end!
“I will never leave thee nor forsake thee.” Hebrews 13:5 Not never will you leave me nor forsake me. We’re sheep, we have natural, fleshly tendency to wander. Ever reminding us how crucial it is to continuously follow the Christ.
6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.
7 If ye [endure] chastening, (there’s that word endure again) God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he that the father chasteneth not?
8 But if ye be without chastisement, whereof ALL are partakers, then ye are bastards,(illegitimate) and not sons. Hebrews 12:6-8
The elect of Christ have and will experience chastening, and no matter the discomfort in and through it, we always rejoice and know there’s purpose (to the glory of our Christ) as we “endure.”
– check this out – Will Everyone Jesus has Saved be in Heaven?
Reply Received:
“Where do I begin. Every person born of God, WILL be faithful. Even if they are faithless, He remains faithful because He can NOT deny Himself. We are HIDDEN in Christ, and seated with Him right now in the heavenlies. We have passed from death to LIFE. This is an event that is unchangeable. God causes it to occur and doesn’t change His mind. He adopts us. Permanently.
Context is everything. It is king. It determines what a passage actually means. Did you know Todd, that God has saved you forever? It’s great to be free and assured of that. Are you afraid He might not keep you to the end? It’s His desire and intent to do that, bro.
Reply Back:
We only have security in Christ AS we are abiding – remaining – in an intimate relationship with Him.
According to Jesus in John 15, “If a man abide (remain) not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire (hell), and they are burned.” (Jn. 15:6)
In order to receive final salvation, one must abide or remain in Christ (Jn. 15:5-6). There is no guarantee that God’s seed will “remain” in the person who is born again and later departs from the LORD.
What you are doing is simply spouting off what you have been taught of mere sinful men…. speaking of context, let’s look at the context of what you partially quoted, conveniently and selectively excluding the whole context:
2 Timothy 2:11-13
“It is a faithful saying: For if we be dead with him, we shall also live with him: If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us: If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself.” 2 Timothy 2:11-13
The person seeking to convince others of “once saved always saved” will misquote this text by saying that because “he (God) abideth faithful” He would never “deny us.” This is a distortion. Let’s read the verse again okay? The passage states that “if we deny him, he also will deny US.” The Word here tells us that “if we deny him, he also will deny US.” Does it get any clearer than this? Being honest with what the Bible says is essential to a clear conscience and to possessing the mind of Christ and true doctrine. Again, those who seek to make palatable the unconditional security teaching can be heard misquoting this text saying “He cannot deny us.” Is that what verse 13 says? No. It says “He cannot deny HIMSELF.” This passage tells us that He “will deny us” if we “deny him” and that “He cannot deny Himself,” not us. In this Bible passage we see that the LORD “abideth faithful”to Himself and to those who do not deny Him. Didn’t Jesus tell us to “deny” ourselves and that if we were “ashamed” of Him or His words He would be “ashamed” of us? See Luke 9:23-24 and Mark 8:34-38.
Below is a classic perversion of this very passage of Scripture. I read this on the internet. The persuasion intended by the person who wrote this is to convince people of something the Bible simply never puts forth.
“If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself.” 2 Timothy 2:13 – God wants you to know for sure that you cannot lose it (salvation) under any circumstance whatsoever, even in the worse scenario. The first part of the verse above says that we can come to a state of mind that we do not believe in God anymore. But, the second says that He will remain faithful if that happens…God cannot deny what He said, because God cannot lie! (Hebrews 6:18 KJV AV1611) He promised to keep us eternally secure and He will remain faithful in that promise even if we ‘believe not.’ Another possible way of looking at ‘he cannot deny himself’ is that we are one in Him. If He was not faithful in His promise, He would be denying himself of eternal security, that is, He would be casting part of himself in eternal damnation in the lake of fire.” J. A.
First off, if in fact as J.A. supposes, “God wants you to know for sure that you cannot lose it (salvation) under any circumstance whatsoever, even in the worse scenario,” then why did God Himself warn His very own people throughout His Word concerning the danger of:
• “Departing from the living God” (Heb. 3:12-15)
• Losing the reward of Heaven for turning back into sin after being saved (Ezek. 33:12-13; 2 Pet. 2:20-21)
• “Falling away” (Lk. 8:13; 2 Thes. 2:3)
• “Having damnation, because they have cast off their first faith” (1 Tim. 5:12)
• Being “cut off” (Rom. 11:19-23)
• Being forsaken of Him (2 Chron. 15:2; Ezra 8:22; 2 Tim. 2:12)
• Being blotted out of the book of life (Exod. 32:33; Ps. 69:32; Rev. 3:5; 22:18-19)
The fact that God remains faithful in no way predicts or determines whether individuals will partake of His plan of salvation. His faithfulness in no way forces men to remain faithful (abide), nor does it disable the Almighty from rendering a due reward of eternal judgment upon those who do not meet His requirements/conditions. This is a truth completely ignored by those who embrace the unscriptural notion of an unconditional eternal security.
“For what if some did not believe? shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect? God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar …” Romans 3:3-4
All sin will be accounted for – one way or the other, and this is the reason for the Judgment Thrones to come (Exod. 34:7; Rom. 14:12-14; Rev. 20:11-15). This should shine yet a brighter light upon the glorious Gospel salvation Jesus Christ wrought for His people and how we can “come boldly” with our sins to His holy throne of grace to receive grace and mercy in time of need (Heb. 4:14-16).
It seems to me, after listening to hundreds of those who believe in an unconditional eternal security, that some people believe that their theology is going to change the unchanging, immutable God (Rom. 3:3-4; James 1:17). The twisting of Scripture, instead of “rightly dividing the word of truth” is done to one’s “own destruction.” (2 Cor. 2:17; 2 Tim. 2:15; 2 Pet. 3:16-17) The disciple of Jesus Christ must be intent upon studying to show himself “approved unto God,” not men, and therefore be able to “rightly” divide “the word of truth.” (2 Tim. 2:15) The person who does not diligently study and know God’s Word, stands to be deluded by the many false teachings circulated in the church world.
What happens if a saved person does not obey and remain faithful to God? Those who do not choose to persevere in saving faith:
• Possess “an evil heart of unbelief” (Heb. 3:12)
• Depart from the living God (Heb. 3:12)
• Cannot and do not please God (Heb. 11)
• Depart from the faith through “doctrines of devils” (1 Tim. 4:1-6)
• “Turn away their ears from the truth” and are “turned unto fables” (2 Tim. 4:4)
• Cannot enter into His rest or presence (Heb. 3:19; 4:6, 11)
• Are “broken off” from the LORD (Rom. 11:20)
• The “unbelieving…shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone …” (Rev. 21:8, 27)
The Bible never guarantees that all Christ saves will automatically “endure to the end” which Jesus says is essential to ultimately being saved into Heaven when speaking to His very own people (Matt. 10:22; 24:13). Christ Himself invented the term “fall away” when speaking of those who would “believe” and be saved and not continue with Him (Lk. 8:13).
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YOUR PRAYER: Father in Heaven, in the name of Jesus, please prepare me, use me. Make me a consummate soul winner. In Jesus’ name.
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“This message (podcast) sure nailed the state of America. Rotten to the very foundation. God’s judgment and fury is falling! His very name is being mocked! As so-called Christians participate in and celebrate what He calls an abomination (Leviticus 18:22), and teaching this to children! Where are the parents? Why are they not standing up for their kids? Why are they not pulling them out of these indoctrinated government run schools? Because the men are weak (Ahabs) and the women are Jezebels and busy working. So the children are left on their own. It starts at such an early age they do not know it is happening. No biblical foundation is why kids are murdering kids! No sense of right or wrong anymore. We are a cursed nation because we have deviated from the standards of God in rebellion and disobedience! God will not bless anything that is abomination to Him.” Karen Cochran
Does the unchanging LORD still allow persecution and for His people to be “scattered abroad”?
“And Saul was consenting unto his death. And at that time there was a great persecution against the church which was at Jerusalem; and they were all scattered abroad throughout the regions of Judaea and Samaria, except the apostles.
2 And devout men carried Stephen to his burial, and made great lamentation over him.
3 As for Saul, he made havock of the church, entering into every house, and haling men and women committed them to prison.
Philip Proclaims Christ in Samaria
4 Therefore they that were scattered abroad went every where preaching the word.
5 Then Philip went down to the city of Samaria, and preached Christ unto them.
6 And the people with one accord gave heed unto those things which Philip spake, hearing and seeing the miracles which he did.
7 For unclean spirits, crying with loud voice, came out of many that were possessed with them: and many taken with palsies, and that were lame, were healed.
8 And there was great joy in that city.” Acts 8:1-8
Persecution had hit Jerusalem and Christ’s saints were prepared and “scattered abroad” to go and preach Christ’s Gospel to the world.
Concerning people being “scattered abroad,” one source notes:
“Scattered abroad is a common biblical phrase primarily known from the King James Version (KJB) of the Bible. It describes the physical dispersion, spreading, or migration of a group of people. The concept holds both historical and theological significance, typically representing:
- Divine Judgment and Dispersion (Old Testament): In Genesis 11, God scatters humanity across the face of the earth and confuses their languages after their rebellion at the Tower of Babel. It also refers to the exile and historical dispersion (the diaspora) of the Israelites for rejecting God’s covenant.
- The Spread of the Gospel (New Testament): In the early Christian church, intense persecution in Jerusalem caused believers to scatter throughout various regions. Instead of destroying the movement, this dispersion inadvertently spread their message. For example, Acts 8:4 states: “Therefore they that were scattered abroad went every where preaching the word.”
- Encouragement to Believers: In the New Testament, the opening of the Epistle of James (James 1:1) is famously addressed to the “twelve tribes which are scattered abroad,” offering pastoral comfort to Jewish Christians facing trials in foreign lands.”
Any nation that is even discussing whether or not there are more than 2 genders is doomed.
Does God desire to scatter abroad, to spread His people across the world?
“And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.
19 So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.
20 And they went forth, and preached every where, the Lord working with them, and confirming the word with signs following. Amen.” Mark 16:15-20
The LORD would never bless a nation that glorifies what He condemns. ANYONE who thinks America is or will ever be blessed without repentance…. is extremely gullible and deceived. Sodom! Ezekiel 16:49-51
“Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.” Leviticus 18:22
A good thing to ask proud Americans who claim they are Christians:
1. “When’s the last time you personally led someone to Jesus?”
2. “How much time and how much energy do you spend trying in vain to “save America” or “Make America Great Again” compared to the time and energy you spend learning, studying, and meditating on God’s Word and doing it—as in the Great Commission?”
“Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.” Matthew 7:21
Anyone claiming to be Christ’s and yet is not doing, is not obeying His Great Commission mandate, is not in the will of God.
PRAYER: Father in the name of Jesus, may Your people cry out to You today for the lost souls of fallen men for whom You sent Your only begotten Son to die (John 3:16-17). May we be blessed to cry out for that which most concerns You! In Jesus’ name.
As God looks down from Heaven…. here’s what He sees, here’s what breaks His holy heart ….
“Hell and destruction are before the LORD: how much more then the hearts of the children of men?” Proverbs 15:11
SOUND LIKE THE MODERN CHURCH IN AMERICA?
“And he taught, saying unto them, Is it not written, My house shall be called of all nations the house of prayer? but ye have made it a den of thieves.” Mark 11:17
“11:17 Combining quotations from Isaiah and Jeremiah, He condemned desecration, exclusivism, and commercialism. God had intended the temple to be a house of prayer for all nations (Isa_56:7), not just for Israel. They had made it a religious market, a hang-out for shysters and racketeers (Jer_7:11).” Believer’s Bible Commentary
Recently lunatics went half crazy because some man threw a rock or stone at a monk seal. Yet no one is fighting for the right for precious innocent babies to live, to not be MURDERED in their own mother’s womb. America is under divine judgment and it’s not going to stop. It’s just getting started.
“Thou shalt not kill.” Exodus 20:13
“Fact: What the world celebrates, God hates!!
Fact: America as a nation will not be saved by God; only individual souls and families can be saved with the short time we have left.
Fact: The reason society has been overrun by the rainbow mafia in corporate America, in schools, and yes: even in ‘churches’, is because this God-mocking, God-hating nation has been given over to the filth they love above the holy God who gave us life.
Have a blessed day…” A disciple.
PRAYER: Father in the name of Jesus, may Your people cry out to You today for the lost souls of fallen men for whom You sent Your only begotten Son to die (John 3:16-17). May we be blessed to cry out for that which most concerns You! In Jesus’ name.
As God looks down from Heaven…. here’s what He sees, here’s what breaks His holy heart ….
“Hell and destruction are before the LORD: how much more then the hearts of the children of men?” Proverbs 15:11
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