People don’t have a “mental health” problem, they have a SIN problem and sin is what gives way, gives full access to Satan!
“When people hear voices telling them to harm themselves or others, that’s not a chemical imbalance, it’s demon possession.” Rachel Gould
“The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?” Jeremiah 17:9
Jesus taught us that man’s sin comes out of his “desperately wicked” heart (Jer17:9; Mark 7:20-23).
The devil and his agents have created a million ways to divert us from stopping our lives, getting honest, taking personal responsibility, humbling ourselves, admitting our sins against God, and repenting.
“When David took his sin to God in Psalm 51 he took 100 percent responsibility! He did not blame Bathsheba and did not seek therapy or medications. He took his heart to God. Repented and pleaded with the Lord to forgive and cleanse him. And the Lord restored to him the joy of his salvation. David was truly broken before God. And the only answer he sought was the Lord.” Karen Cochran
“And he said, That which cometh out of the man, that defileth the man. 21 For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders, 22 Thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness: 23 All these evil things come from within, and defile the man.” Mark 7:20-23
Mankind’s core dilemma is sin (Romans 1-3). Jesus Christ came and died to “save his people from their sins,“ to “taketh away the sin of the world,“ and not to merely deal with fallen man on a surface level as on a mental level (Matthew 1:21; John 1:29). God doesn’t band aid broken things, He heals and makes them whole to the root because the root determines the fruit (Matthew 12:33; Luke 4:18, etc.). Christ’s salvation is perfect. Evil is in our hearts and proceeds forth from that wicked heart until Christ regenerates us (Genesis 6:5, 12; Jeremiah 17:9; John 3:3, 7; Titus 3:5-7). This is why the sinner must of divine necessity be born again, must be made completely new “by the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Ghost” (Titus 3:5-7). Then and not before then, the born again saint of Christ is made a “a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new. 18 And all things are of God” (2 Corinthians 5:17-18).
“Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. … 7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.” John 3:3, 7
Our alienated spiritual state while in sin, is not a mental health issue (Ephesians 2:1-3). Rather, sin is the spiritual state all men are in, separated from the life of God and under condemnation, until they are born again in Christ Jesus (John 3:1-8; 2 Corinthians 5:17-18; Titus 3:5-7, etc.).
Anyone attributing sin to “mental health” issues is a blinded false teacher who is preaching “another gospel” and is “accursed” (Galatians 1:6-9). Mental dysfunction is only coming from sin, it’s a mere symptom, not the root cause. Fallen man needs God – he needs the change of heart, a divine miracle at the core of his being – something the LORD alone can and will do when the individual repents and receives Christ (Acts 3:19; John 1:12-13, etc.).
Did Jesus come to die for sin or “mental health issues”?
“Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.” John 1:29
SIN is man’s core issue. Seems like “mental health” gets blamed for much more than is fair. And, mental health issues emanate from man’s sin which only Jesus can cure. WE have ALL sinned against our Maker and yet He is so loving that He sent His only begotten Son to die for us while we were yet sinners (John 3:16; Romans 3:10, 23; 5:6-8). “Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house” (Acts 16:31).
Human reasoning is debunked by the Word of God. Read Colossians 2:8-10. Those who walk with God, who truly love God and people, give the people HIS Word which plainly states “Ye MUST be born again” (John 3).
Anything else is a lie from a hateful counterfeit, a deceiver (Proverbs 27:5-6). Only Jesus can forgive sin and eradicate demons (Matthew 9:6; 26:28). Read Mark 5 concerning the demon possessed man who after Jesus set him free was “in his right mind” (Mark 5:15). Also, memorize James 4:7 and learn that there is no getting rid of Satan until there is true repentance through which God forgives the sin that previously gave Satan access, control over that person.
The “old man“ otherwise called “the flesh” in Scripture, must be “put off” or crucified by way of the daily cross – the crucified life (Ephesians 4:22; Colossians 3:8-10). So many who pretend to represent Christ today in the apostate modern church world often speak in terms of finding out things about ones self. This they do instead of citing and reading and teaching from God’s Word what the testimony of Scripture is about fallen mankind (Genesis 6:5, 12; Jeremiah 17:9; Romans 3, 7, etc.). The focus is on self whom they do not identify as “desperately wicked” and in need of the miracle of regeneration (John 3:3, 7; Titus 3:5-7). God’s only answer is the cross of Christ and when He saves a man, that man is to be crucified with Christ. When you do not hear these original Gospel essentials, identify such as a false ministry. None of these things are ever mentioned in the messages we hear coming from the false priesthood of wolves who have and are commandeering the apostate modern church world further into deception and disillusionment (2 Thessalonians 2:9-12). As was foretold, the great falling away has been on us for a while now (Amos 8:11; Matthew 7:15; 24:3-5, 11; 2 Thessalonians 2; 1 Timothy 4:1-2; 2 Timothy 3:13, etc..
The no sin nature people are missing the cross. The Mike Desario’s, the Charles Finney’s, and the Jesse Morrell’s of the world peddle the no-sin-nature heresy and also do not preach the cross, the crucified life. They rag on endlessly about “stopping all sin” but never mention the crucified life which is the only divine prescription for overcoming sin (Romans 6, etc.). That alone makes them false, peddlers of “another gospel.” (Galatians 1:6-9) This is why they can’t understand this. They do not realize that God gave us the solution to this sin bent (iniquity), this inherent in fallen man sin – and that answer is the crucified life which is at the heart of the original Gospel.
Christ alone is the cure FOR the curse of sin.
PSYCHO-BABBLE, PSYCHOTHERAPY IS A LIE THAT PROMISES ANSWERS WHILE ALLOWING ITS FALSE PROPHETS TO MILK THE VICTIMS OF ITS LIES (2 Peter 2:1-3).
No one needs psychology to notice and understand the flaws of the fallen man, of fallen in sin mankind. Psychology is a cheap imitation that offers zero solutions. The fathers of modern psychology were all unrepentant and vile and sinfully perverted men, children of satan. Jesus alone can forgive sin and make a man whole (Matthew 9:6; Luke 4:18, etc.). That’s why Heaven’s King came. Every other promise is a lie. The world has no answer for the sin that is the root cause of all of man’s ailments (Genesis 6:5, 12; Jeremiah 17:9; Romans 1-3; 6-7, etc.). Jesus saves. Jesus forgives. Jesus makes whole – from the inside out – all the way to the root of the issue! Christ alone is the cure to the cancer of sin!
Clue: Mental health issues are merely the result of SIN! Christ’s solution to sin grants men to be in their “right mind” just like it did the demon possessed maniac at Gadara. After Jesus cast out the devils that had possessed him, and made this man whole (salvation), then it says this:
“And they come to Jesus, and see him that was possessed with the devil, and had the legion, sitting, and clothed, and in his right mind: and they were afraid.” Mark 5:15
“Mental illness” has taken center stage as the primary excuse for SIN and for justifying evil. Psychology is a lie. There is no solution in it. Only Jesus can cure the curse of sin! He died to do just that! Reject Him and you are Satan’s property!
The source of sin AND evil is rooted in Satan and is in the hearts of men. Christ alone can cure this curse.
Jesus came to raise men from their dead spiritual state. He alone can do such. He says “Ye must be born again” (John 3:3, 7).
“To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me.” Acts 26:18
Any person who is not genuinely born again, washed in the blood of Jesus Christ, IS the property of Satan and under his evil control.
“He that is not with me is against me…” Matthew 12:30
Reducing sin to “mental health issues” is an antichrist attack on Christ and His Gospel!
The increasing violence and evil we see erupting across our nation and world was foretold in God’s Word and is a manifestation of the evil, the wicked hearts of fallen men, unsaved men.
“But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.” 2 Timothy 3:13
Anyone not pointing out that you are a sinner separated from your Maker, and not pointing you to the salvation that is in Christ Jesus alone, is misleading you. Sinful man has no solution in and of himself. Only God Himself can make you whole. And, He desires to do just that! Today is your day to turn your life to God, to confess what He already knows – that you are a vile sinner. And to receive the salvation, the forgiveness of all your sins by receiving the perfect Lamb of God who was slain for your sins – to bring you to God! (John 1:12-13, 29)
“But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: 13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. … 29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.” John 1:12-13, 29
Those in sin are blind and can’t see this. They vainly believe that “reforms” can turn this tide of evil. But only God can solve this problem of sin and He will only do that where there is repentance and faith in Christ (Acts 20:21). Spiritual bankruptcy is only solved by repentance and being washed in the blood of Jesus Christ, who is the only answer to man’s sin problem. “What must I do to be saved? 31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house” (Acts 16:30-31).
Those without God look within for reform when all there is is sin within. Reform is not what’s needed. Change is needed and only God can make that change in a man and He calls it “regeneration” and being “born again” (Titus 3:5-6; John 3:3, 7). Only the LORD can solve man’s sin problem and He did just that when He sent His only begotten Son for the sins of the world.
“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” John 3:16
Sin is man’s problem. Sin is at the root of man’s dilemma, not a “mental disorder” or disease (Colossians 2:8). Sin is man’s core problem from which all his ailments emanate (Genesis 6:5, 12; Jeremiah 17:9; Romans 1 and 3, etc.).
“And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent: 31 Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.” Acts 17:30-31
The Bible never says “know thyself”!!! God’s Word commands all men to “repent,“ to submit to God (Acts 17:30; James 4:7). The Word says “DENY,“ crucify your evil self! Read Luke 9:23-24; Romans 6, etc.. When we look within the Bible we find that mankind is fallen and full of sin within. That sin must be forgiven at initial salvation and crucified for the remainder of the life of that disciple while on earth (Romans 6).
After Christ saves us, we don’t evolve into being a better “Christian.” No. There will always be that sinful, iniquitous nature called “the old man,“ which must be daily crucified as we “put on the new man.”
“Lie not one to another, seeing that ye have put off the old man with his deeds; 10 And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him:” Colossians 3:9-10
The SINNER, the vile wretch I must first and foremost confront and continually crucify, is myself! (Read Rom 7:18, 24; Ps 39:4-5; Eccl 7:20.) It’s essential to begin to understand the flesh, the fallen man, the iniquitous old man, in order to realize what we’ve been saved from and what must be crucified daily. The cross is God’s solution, prescription to “put off the old man with his deeds.”
“That ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts;” Ephesians 4:22
“Lie not one to another, seeing that ye have put off the old man with his deeds;” Colossians 3:9
What about this evil nature we all have….. what does Scripture reveal? Let’s talk about how the only solution is the cross, to X it out, to cancel, to crucify it to nothing, that Christ might reign – the Gospel reenacted in our daily lives – death, burial, resurrection. Saints, this truth must be explored, studied, and learned from God’s Word.
That evil, that iniquity working in us perhaps hastens us to His cross for forgiveness, mercy, and to put it off, crucify it. Have you noticed, like Paul, that it’s nothing but ugliness? Romans 7. One disciple writes:
“We want to TRY against evil (law and human effort) but the only way is to DIE to evil and be raised up with new life (grace).”
We must see the sin in our own evil hearts and repent, confess, and cry out to God to cleanse us (Psalms 51; 139:23-24; Matthew 5:8, etc.). Then, take up the cross and follow your Savior.
“Therefore I will judge you, O house of Israel, every one according to his ways, saith the Lord GOD. Repent, and turn yourselves from all your transgressions; so iniquity shall not be your ruin.” Ezekiel 18:30
The Bible says to examine yourself but it never says to look within yourself for any virtue or anything good at all because the heart is deceitful “above all things and desperately wicked”! (Read 2 Corinthians 13:5; Genesis 6:5, 12; Jeremiah 17:9; Romans 3, etc..)
“Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?” 2 Corinthians 13:5
Judge yourself in order to avoid damnation with the world:
“For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged. 32 But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world.” 1 Corinthians 11:31-32
God Himself is good and perfect and just and we are continually told to be “Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God” (Hebrews 12:2).
Now read Hebrews 12:1-12 and know that God’s correction is simply the clear proof that He loves us – that we are HIS! Rejoice! Then read Revelation 3:19.
“As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.” Revelation 3:19
GOD WILL NOT WORK IN OUR LIVES UNTIL WE OPENLY ADMIT AND ANNOUNCE OUR OWN UTTER DEPRAVITY, OUR POVERTY OF SPIRIT, AND CRY OUT TO HIM TO SAVE, DELIVER, AND MAKE US WHOLE – AS HE ALONE CAN DO!
Paramount to your understanding of divine redemption of the fallen race via the cross of Christ is your recognition, your understanding of the utter depravity of fallen mankind.
“Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.” Matthew 5:3
Note, “poor in spirit.” Not poor financially or religiously. The Greek word translated into English as “poor” is PTOCHOS. It means pauper, beggar, poor…..desperate and spiritually impoverished. Christ looks to desperate, hungry and thirsty people who want more of Him (Is. 66:2). Their hearts pant for more of Him (Ps. 42:1-2). They deeply desire more of His presence and Word.
ALL who seek to hide/cover their sins instead of repenting and forsaking them, will perish (Proverbs 28:13).
“He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall have mercy.” Proverbs 28:13
“Repentance is to TAKE SIDES with God against yourself. It is a CHANGE of attitude toward SELF, toward SIN, toward GOD, toward CHRIST that is so REAL that it RESULTS in a changed life. It is raising the WHITE FLAG in SURRENDER to God and turning to Christ as your only LORD and Savior. Repentance is NOT a work … works are the fruit of repentance (Ephesians 2:8-10).” Trent Austin
The Truth about Fallen Mankind – That Includes You!
“And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.” Genesis 6:5
“And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth.” Genesis 6:12
“The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?” Jeremiah 17:9
“For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not. … O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?” Romans 7:18, 24
Is Romans 7 Before or After Paul’s Salvation?
Defusing the iniquity of self-righteousness increases exponentially when we begin learning the biblical doctrine of fallen mankind (Genesis 6:5, 12; Jeremiah 17:9; Romans 7:18; Psalms 39:4-5).
Don’t trust yourself, trust God and deny self! “He that trusteth in his own heart is a fool: but whoso walketh wisely, he shall be delivered” (Proverbs 26:28).
Only Satan and his children live by the diabolical edict of “be true to yourself.” Knowing how wretched they are of themselves, without Christ, those who are known of God live by “Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. 6 In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths” (Proverbs 3:5-6).
“Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.” Romans 3:19
There’s a difference between justifying sin and honestly admitting the truth – that we are nothing and in utter need of an abiding felloship and union with Jesus! There is no justifying the sin Jesus died to forgive and deliver us FROM! (See Matthew 1:21; John 1:29; Romans 6:1-2.) One of those sins is self-reliance/pride/self-righteousness – self idolatry – which leads us to not admit our utter present and perpetual need for divine mercy and grace! (Read Matthew 5:3; Romans 7:18.) You are nothing and do nothing to please God without Jesus, even in your “best state” (Psalms 39:4-5; John 15:5).
Satan is not only the king of self-love and the result of being alienated from God, but also “he is a king over all the children of pride.” (Job 41:34)
Anyone living in the sin of pride instead of humility is in the grip of Satan himself!
“They are all under sin; 10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one.” Romans 3:9-10
Why was there the judgment of the Noahic flood? Why will there be judgment in the future?
“And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.” Genesis 6:5
Man is by nature and therefore in deeds sinful. After the first man and woman the LORD created sinned, death (spiritual separation) passed upon all men born after them (Rom. 5:12).
“Repent” is the very first word of the Gospel (Matt. 3:2; 4:17) and men cannot and will not realize the need to repent and believe in Jesus Christ if they aren’t first shown that their core problem is the sin that separates them from their beloved Creator.
“But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear.” Isaiah 59:2
It is the false teacher/leader who refuses to hold up this foundational truth since the realization of it doesn’t make people feel good about themselves and that is what the deceiver aims for in order to position people to support his ministry.
“Thy prophets have seen vain and foolish things for thee: and they have not discovered thine iniquity, to turn away thy captivity; but have seen for thee false burdens and causes of banishment.” Lamentations 2:14
According to what the Holy Spirit reveals to us here in Lamentations 2:14 concerning false leaders, we should discern those we listen to very closely. He tells us here that false prophets do not discover or uncover and deal with what God calls sin. Paul did (1 Cor. 6:9-10; Gal. 5:19-21, etc.). Jesus did (Mk. 7:20-23; 9:43-49, etc.). The apostle John dealt with the issue of sin (1 Jn. 1-2:2; 3:1-10; Rev. 21:8, 27, etc.).
Laughably, false teacher James Dobson says that lack of self esteem is man’s root problem. Total diabolical lie!
Instead of tending to the things that matter to the LORD, counterfeit leaders today deal with surface issues – “vain and foolish things…false burdens.” Any man in leadership who refuses to deal with sin by name and head on, is false. He is so very puffed up in his own fleshly mind that he thinks he is wiser than the Almighty and vainly believes and reasons out that he knows more about what men need than the infinite One who made man. Regardless of his reasoning, any person in leadership who does not address sin and the holiness of God, is completely false. Please allow this writer to encourage you to do an inventory on those leaders you are currently listening to and run for your life if any of them are not addressing what the LORD told us violates His holiness.
NEVER EVER LOSE SIGHT OF THE FACT THAT MANKIND IS FALLEN. IT STARTED WHEN THE VERY FIRST MAN AND WOMAN CHOSE TO REBEL AGAINST OUR MAKER. SIN IS MAN’S CORE PROBLEM, NEED, AND ISSUE. ONLY CHRIST CAN CURE THE CURSE OF SIN AND THAT’S EXACTLY WHY HE CAME.
The heart of the “wise virgin” believer is flooded with the light of God through daily diligent study of His Word (Psalms 119:130). What most don’t realize is that darkness immediately descends upon the heart left unattended – the heart not daily receiving the light of divine truth through diligent study of the Holy Scriptures (2 Timothy 2:15). The heart left without the bright shining light of God’s Word shining into it daily, WILL revert back to type – darkness, iniquity, “desperately wicked,” “only evil continually” (Genesis 6:5, 12; Jeremiah 17:9, etc.).
The ministerial beguiler, whose goal is not to fear and please God but rather to build a bigger church congregation, has to remove Bible doctrines that sting the conscience (Isaiah 30:9-10; 2 Timothy 4:2-4). God’s desire is to prick or sting the conscience of man in order to bring to him conviction of his sin and repentance. Yet the wolf who hides in sheep garb must entertain and only speak of smooth things that do not interrupt the lifestyles of those he seeks to gain and keep the support of (Matthew 7:15). Regrettably and yet in fulfillment of prophecy, the landscape of the visible church world is littered with such false teachers (2 Timothy 3:13).
“That this is a rebellious people, lying children, children that will not hear the law of the LORD: Which say to the seers, See not; and to the prophets, Prophesy not unto us right things, speak unto us smooth things, prophesy deceits.” Isaiah 30:9-10
Sinful man betrays his own eternal soul in seeking to console himself in order that he might continue to enjoy his temporary pleasures. Beguilers in leadership refuse to interrupt this death march of the wicked (many who believe they are saved). There is no end to the false prophets who have risen to accommodate such a state of depravity. Oh, just think of the light fanfare messages and book titles that entice men to experience the self life to the fullest. “Your Best Life Now” is one that comes to mind. If the premise of this book by Joel Osteen were biblical, it would have been titled “Your Best Life THEN.” Why do I state this? Jesus guaranteed that those who truly follow Him would “be hated of all men for my name’s sake” and that many would be killed for following Him and promised that His Father was preparing “mansions” in Heaven for those who endured to the end (Matt. 10:22; 24:10-13; Jn. 14:1-6). In direct contrast to Osteen, we see that Jesus Christ taught that the best life for His true followers would be then not now. Suffering with joy and grace to sustain us now (in this short life) and eternal bliss then is the consistent message of Scripture (2 Cor. 4:16-18; Phil. 1:29). Do you remember that the prodigal (apostate) son departed from his father only when he demanded his best life now? See Luke 15.
“And ye shall be betrayed both by parents, and brethren, and kinsfolks, and friends; and some of you shall they cause to be put to death. And ye shall be hated of all men for my name’s sake.” Luke 21:16-17
Below is an example of the most obvious false teacher in America and yet there are “many,” “many,” other false teachers as Jesus repeatedly told us there would be in this late hour (Matthew 7:15; 24:4-5, 11, 24):
“Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.” Matthew 7:15
“And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.” Matthew 24:11
“For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.” Matthew 24:24
Jesus Christ or Osteen? Who’s False?
BEWARE of the message of the many self-exalting, Christ-demoting Luciferic Wolves of this late hour! Isaiah 14:12-15 says it all! The 5 “I”‘s of Lucifer!
Joel Osteen / Lakewood Church have as their slogan “Discover the Champion in You.” That’s because it’s all about YOU (idol) in their luciferic theology/mythology! But what champion? WHO is the true Champion? Who is the mere depraved pauper utterly unworthy to be forgiven and saved?
Did Jesus, Paul, or any of the apostles use any such language as “discover the champion in you”? No! Does the Bible teach that we are to discover JESUS or something in our own depraved, wicked nature?
“The only champion in me is God! And last I checked I didn’t need to unlock him!” Ray Zeitler
This spineless moral coward, Joel Osteen, who deceitfully poses as a Christian leader, holds up a Bible in his services and has everyone repeat these words with him: “This is my Bible, I am what it says I am…” BUT does Joel even begin to believe this? Do those he is leading astray believe this?
When is the last time your favorite author brought forth these divinely-inspired words spoken by the very Son of God? When is the last time Joel Osteen preached on suffering (a major theme of Holy Scripture)?
Stop for a moment and ask yourself 2 simple and important questions:
1) Why won’t Joel Osteen and other deceivers communicate these words of Jesus?
2) Why do they pick and choose and always come up with easy things to say that won’t offend people?
Osteen says:
- “I don’t get deep and theological.” Joel Osteen, New York Times July 18,2005
An internet search using key words “Osteen quotes” will turn up mostly new age, positive thinking sites. Why? Because the world of sinners gladly receives those who will not communicate the biblical truth that they are sinners and need to be born again. It seems from observing the above quote and Joel’s ministry, that Osteen only gets as “theological” as is necessary to draw the “Christian” crowd and support. As you will see in his many self-actualization type positive thinking quotes, Osteen has enough wherewithal to invent these self-sayings and yet chooses not to “get deep and theological.” How telling.
When speaking before a lost sea of human souls on national television, Osteen openly denies Bible truth and Jesus Christ (see Joel Osteen Exposed). He never hints that sin is man’s core problem and that the blood of Christ’s cross is the only solution. Like it or not – This alone makes Joel Osteen a bona fide false prophet.
Contrast this: Joel makes people feel good about themselves while living in their sins, while Jesus Christ identifies then cleanses the sins of men, giving them the deep peace He alone shed His own life blood to give them.
Do men need a band-aid or the only real solution that gets to the root of their dilemma?
Who will you believe? – the mere sinner Joel Osteen, or Jesus Christ, the nail-scarred risen Savior and LORD who died for all your sins? Is sin an offense against the one true holy God or did Jesus come in vain to the earth to pay for the sins of the whole world? Who is the liar in your mind and heart?
So you think Joel Osteen is a nice guy? Does he make you feel good? Does Osteen have nail-scarred hands and feet? Did Joel die for your sins? Did Osteen rise from the dead to justify you before a holy God and Judge? Is Joel Osteen coming back from Heaven for you?
What about Jesus Christ? Is He a nice guy? What did He do for you? Do you believe in Him? You sure? If so, you completely embrace every single thing He gave you in His Word and it takes complete and superior precedence over the words of any other mere man or men – “yea, let God be true, but every man a liar.” (Rom. 3:4)
Is Jesus Christ the only way to God and Heaven or did Christ lie to us all? Discern for yourself: Below is a partial transcript from the “Larry King Live” (CNN), Monday, June 20th, 2005 Interview with Pastor Joel Osteen:
KING: What if you’re Jewish or Muslim, you don’t accept Christ at all?
JOEL OSTEEN: You know, I’m very careful about saying who would and wouldn’t go to heaven. I don’t know …
KING: If you believe you have to believe in Christ? They’re wrong, aren’t they?
JOEL OSTEEN: Well, I don’t know if I believe they’re wrong….But I just think that only God will judge a person’s heart.
KING: You don’t call them sinners?
JOEL OSTEEN: I don’t.
KING: Is that a word you don’t use?
JOEL OSTEEN: I don’t use it.
CALLER: I’m wondering, though, why you side-stepped Larry’s earlier question about how we get to heaven? The bible clearly tells us that Jesus is the way, the truth and the light and the only way to the father is through him. That’s not really a message of condemnation but of truth.
KING: So then a Jew is not going to heaven?
JOEL OSTEEN: No. Here’s my thing, Larry, is I can’t judge somebody’s heart. You know? Only God can look at somebody’s heart, and so — I don’t know. To me, it’s not my business to say, you know, this one is or this one isn’t. And I just I think it’s wrong when you go around saying, you’re saying you’re not going, you’re not going, you’re not going, because it’s not exactly my way.
I’m just…
KING: What about atheists?
JOEL OSTEEN: You know what, I’m going to let someone — I’m going to let God be the judge of who goes to heaven and hell.
The Son of God asks:
“Whom do men say that I the Son of man am?” Matthew 16:13
Who shall you believe? Does Osteen have a Bible? Has he read it and believed it or is he simply using certain parts of it for his own advantage and calling Jesus Christ, the very Son of God a liar? Weigh the following quotes from Jesus Christ against what Osteen told the world on Larry King Live. Christ stated:
“I am THE way (not a way)…no man cometh unto the Father but by me.” (Jn. 14:6)
“He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.” (Mk. 16:16)
“He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.” (Jn. 3:36)
Is Jesus Christ a liar or is Joel Osteen a deceiver and a liar? Hint: Can’t be both. You must choose. Jesus said “He that is not with me IS against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad.” (Matt. 12:30)
Osteen clearly denies Jesus Christ and His words and is therefore under the judgment of God (Mk. 8:38). Why would any authentic, born again believer want to support his ministry? Why would any caring believer not warn others of such falsity in order to protect them in the truth?
When the smooth talking false leader goes into the Bible to pick and choose what he wants to say to the people, he has to intentionally ignore and dodge volumes of statements/Scriptures like this that the Son of God spoke. This is because he is doing ministry for himself and not truly for Christ. If he were truly serving the LORD, He would openly and without shame proclaim the full counsel of His precious Word/truth (Ps. 119:104, 128; Prov. 30:5; Mk. 8:38; Jn. 8:47; Acts 20:20, 27). What did Jesus tell us was going to happen to those who denied Him?
“Whosoever shall confess me before men, him shall the Son of man also confess before the angels of God: But he that denieth me before men shall be denied before the angels of God.” Luke 12:8-9
The forever fires of eternal damnation await these vast audiences, but do you think the slew of self-serving entertainers care? Are they not likened to the preying “brood of vipers” Jesus cited in Matthew 23?
In the 5th chapter of Jeremiah, the Holy Spirit gives some detailed insight into the world of religion and how it all works as an industry. He speaks of the false leadership, giving earmark, identifying characteristics and how the people (those who support the deceivers) gladly participate in this treason against the LORD.
“Your iniquities have turned away these things, and your sins have withholden good things from you. 26 For among my people are found wicked men: they lay wait, as he that setteth snares; they set a trap, they catch men. 27 As a cage is full of birds, so are their houses full of deceit: therefore they are become great, and waxen rich. 28 They are waxen fat, they shine: yea, they overpass the deeds of the wicked: they judge not the cause, the cause of the fatherless, yet they prosper; and the right of the needy do they not judge. 29 Shall I not visit for these things? saith the LORD: shall not my soul be avenged on such a nation as this? 30 A wonderful and horrible thing is committed in the land; 31 The prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests bear rule by their means; and my people love to have it so: and what will ye do in the end thereof?” Jeremiah 5:25-31
While their sins were holding back good blessings from them, the false prophets were catering to the people and telling the people what they wanted to hear and not what God wanted to tell them. This is the first thing to learn in discerning a false leader – they don’t preach the naked truth from God’s Word. Nothing has changed. There is no new thing under the sun friends (Eccl. 1:7; 1 Cor. 10:13). Were we not warned of this same scenario transpiring in the very last days of this age? – a mutual mutiny (rebellion) against the LORD involving false prophets and the people who make their reign of treason and deceit possible by supporting them? (Read 1 Tim. 4:1-5; 2 Tim. 3:1-7, 13; 4:1-5.) Both parties are equally guilty before God and impending judgment awaits all who do not repent and begin exposing false prophets instead of supporting them – “what will ye do in the end thereof?” (See Jeremiah 5:31.) It is a biblical mandate to mark (not cover for) false teachers and teachings (Rom. 16:17-18; Eph. 5:11; Jude 3-4).
Let’s look closer at Jeremiah 5:31 above. Note that there are 3 players mentioned by God here – prophet, priest, and people:
- “The prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests bear rule by their means” – the leaders were working together (prophets & priests) to bring mutually satisfying returns to their own coffers.
- “my people love to have it so” – those who claimed to know the LORD loved hearing things that made them feel good in the now, so they could enjoy their best life now. These people are not valiant for the truth and do not want to deal with what God says is sin against His holiness. They had no thought of eternity and what was ahead in the fierce and horrible Judgment of the God they would soon stand before to give account. Like those today, the false prophets in Israel had intentionally ignored and removed from the people the doctrines of judgment to come, the essential of personal holiness, sin, eternal damnation, etc..
- “what will ye do in the end thereof?” – what will be the end of those who were led astray by these deceivers? What will be the end of those who support such falsehood and false prophets? Without repentance (before it’s too late) these people truly are experiencing their best life now – because damnation awaits both parties.
The Intoxicating Effect of Self-Serving Reciprocal Falsity
“For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.” 2 Timothy 4:3-4
Speaking of the facilitation of false prophets by His people, the LORD said “my people love to have it so” (Jer. 5:31). Of all the deceivers peddling their wares today, warring against the LORD Almighty, none seem to have made inroads into the hearts of people like Joel Osteen. I have talked to dozens of people who believe they are truly following Christ, who have bought into Osteen’s new age feel-good message sprinkled with a few Scriptures. Like the days of Jeremiah, there seems to be a soul-tie between false prophet and people. From what I hear coming from those who listen to Osteen, it seems that Joel makes people feel so good about themselves (with no need to change-repentance) that they have been intoxicated by that feeling and lost track of the true Gospel of Jesus Christ. These people are truly not enduring “sound doctrine; but after their own lusts” are heaping “to themselves teachers, having itching ears (unpurged sinful lusts).” They have turned away their ears from the truth, and been turned unto fables.
Concerning the Lost
Sin is mankind’s root dilemma and Jesus is the only Solution.
Be not deceived: the Bible informs us that man’s core problem is the sin that separates him from his holy Maker. How can one aggrandize the preciousness of the Savior if he doesn’t first realize the depth of his own depravity and need for God’s forgiveness? He simply cannot. So, give the lost the law (Ten Commandments) and let the LORD convict and break them, bringing them to repentance and into His glorious salvation (Gal. 3:24).
“The heart of the human problem is the problem of the human heart.” unknown
The only SOULution to man’s sin dilemma is the blood of the sole soul Savior.
“For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.” Matthew 26:28
“Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.” John 1:29
“But God commendeth (displayed) his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.” Romans 5:8-9
“This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.” 1 Timothy 1:15
Beloved, this fundamental biblical truth (above) is utterly essential to memorize in these last days where the enemy’s lies are going to increase yet more and more, deceiving those who are not soundly standing and rooted and grounded in the love and truth of the LORD Jesus Christ (2 Thess. 2:10-12; 2 Tim. 3:13-4:5). Hordes of deceivers (as clearly foretold) operate feverishly in the ministry, psychologizing the faith and leading millions astray (Acts 20:20, 27-32). Don’t be a casualty. Devour His precious precepts that you might fully love and please the One who bled and rose again for your sins and endure to the end as we await His soon return from Heaven (Matt. 10:22, 24:10-13; 1 Thess. 1:10).
Ready Or Not – Jesus Is Coming.
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Message Received:
MAN’S GREATEST IGNORANCE IS OF HIMSELF…….YOU ARE CREATED WITH UNLIMITED POTENTIAL…..
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Brother, the first thing man must receive the knowledge of is His depraved, sinful state. Gen. 6:5, 12; Jer. 17:9, Rom. 7:18, 24, etc. This is a luciferic myth that is leading millions astray who think they know Christ. Delusion! Man cannot possibly appreciate and glorify God until they begin to realize the depth of their own depravity! We have to be brought to the lowest depths of the realization of our utter depravity before Him who is “Holy, holy, holy” before we can be anything in God.
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Kiss Jesus Or be Crushed as His Enemy! [podcast]
Satan’s Pitiful Petty Perverted Pawns have an Expiration Date!
“Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, cruel both with wrath and fierce anger, to lay the land desolate: and he shall destroy the sinners thereof out of it.” Isaiah 13:9
Psalm 2 is Prophetic of Christ and of His Return to Take back Possession of His Planet, Earth
The Reign of the Lord’s Anointed
1 Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?
2 The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, saying,
3 Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us.
4 He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision.
5 Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex them in his sore displeasure.
6 Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion.
7 I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.
8 Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession.
9 Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter’s vessel.
10 Be wise now therefore, O ye kings: be instructed, ye judges of the earth.
11 Serve the LORD with fear, and rejoice with trembling.
12 Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him.
GOD told us He’s laughing at these luciferians and all their “elaborate plans” to control humanity. Read Psalms 2. Jesus is coming. His enemies will be crushed under His holy, Almighty feet (Romans 16:20).
“And the God of peace shall bruise Satan under your feet shortly. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you. Amen.” Romans 16:20
The future belongs exclusively to Jesus Christ and His followers. Read the book of Revelation!
“And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder.” Matthew 21:44
Jesus is coming back “In flaming fire taking vengeance.”
“And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, 8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: 9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power; 10 When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day.” 2 Thessalonians 1:7-10
The Coming of the Son of Man
“And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring; 26 Men’s hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken. 27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. 28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.” Luke 21:25-28
Just as Aaron’s rod swallowed up the rods of the sorcerers of Egypt (the world), so shall Christ’s kingdom swallow up the kingdoms of this world! (Exodus 7:12; Daniel 2:44; 7:14) Will you be a part of Christ’s eternal kingdom?
“And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.” Revelation 11:15
Bow now or burn forever.
All who refuse to repent, bowing down to “kiss the Son” of God will perish in their own corruption and be violently vanquished into the bowels of eternal damnation, the prison of fire, which will then be “cast into the lake of fire.”
“And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. 15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.” Revelation 20:14-15
“EVERY Knee”
“Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: 10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; 11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.” Philippians 2:9-11
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Apostasy
Mother Teresa was a Fraud [podcast]
Was Mother Teresa a True Christian or a Fake Philanthropist and Fraud?
Some believe “Mother Teresa” was actually a man and the father of Anthony Fauci. Check the resemblance, and think about how “she” is never seen without the head covering. Oh and someone pointed out that the blue and white head covering is the same pattern/look as Epstein’s temple to Satan on Epstein island. Do your own research.
“For MANY deceivers are entered into the world . . .” 2 John 7
Anyone who quotes Mother Teresa is a false prophet. – “Ye shall know them by their fruits” (Matthew 7:16, 20).
So many today tell you exactly who they are when they quote absolute frauds like John Calvin, Mother Teresa, Joyce Meyer, Kenneth Hagin, Kenneth Copeland, Rick Warren, James R. White, Todd White, etc.. The list is endless of false prophets who are still heralded by their satanic agenda counterparts, their heretical pawns who are part of the “conspiracy“ of false prophets who are against the LORD (Ezekiel 22:25-27).
Stop endorsing and quoting and esteeming mere sinful men, now! Obey God by exposing them! (Matthew 10:26-28; 23; Romans 16:17-18; Jude 3, etc.).
“Cease ye from man, whose breath is in his nostrils: for wherein is he to be accounted of?” Isaiah 2:22
“Seems so many miss the little things by not investigating for themselves. I wish they would just stick to the Bible and give honour where God hath given honour: like unto Paul, Timothy, Epaphras, John, Peter, etc.. There are plenty of examples to us in the written Word without having to laud men that we truly know very little of or were written of by secular historians.” Jon Crane
SHE WASN’T EVEN SAVED! STOP HERALDING HER AS SOME GREAT SAINT! GOOD WORKS DON’T SAVE ANYONE! REPENT!
FACTS:
- Mother Teresa was never born again. No person who is truly born again remains in the cult of Catholicism, without exception.
- Mother Teresa never even claimed to be a born again Christian – besides, there’s no such thing as a Catholic who is a born again Christian.
- She never once said you can only be saved by Christ through grace.
- She never once quoted Jesus when He gave the essential of knowing Him: “Ye must be born again” (John 3:3, 7).
- Mother Teresa was a sinner who spent her life championing the cause of an antichrist, works-based cult.
- She kissed statues (idols) and honored the phony pope of Rome.
- Mother Teresa betrayed the LORD her whole life and taught salvation by works.
- She admitted in her books that she did not know the LORD.
On the surface (at first glance), philanthropic acts of kindness may seem noble and yet actually be a stunt to draw publicity to the individual or group performing them. Asceticism is alive and well today.
“Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them: otherwise ye have no reward of your Father which is in heaven. 2 Therefore when thou doest thine alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward. 3 But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth: 4 That thine alms (personal giving) may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret himself shall reward thee openly.” Matthew 6:1-4
You see, many who claim to be Christians are quick to join in building homes for people, marching in pink to raise money for breast cancer, give to the murderous United Way and Susan G. Komen each of which supports Planned MURDERhood in killing innocent babies. Yet, these same people never obey the One they say saved them by telling others about His salvation. Astounding!
Defacing ourselves to somehow merit saving grace is an antichrist endeavor. Christ’s one perfect sacrifice alone merited our salvation and to be His, one must repent and put their faith in Him. “Believe on the LORD Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved” (Acts 16:31).…. “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast” (Ephesians 2:8-9).
ACCORDING TO THE NEW TESTAMENT RECORD, EVEN IF WE GIVE OUR VERY BODIES TO BE BURNED OUT OF BEING A SUPPOSEDLY KIND PERSON AND YET DON’T LOVE GOD ENOUGH TO OBEY HIM BY REPENTING AND GETTING SAVED BY CHRIST’S GRACE ALONE AND LOVE OUR TRADITION/RELIGION MORE THAN HIM, IT’S ALL IN VAIN AND HELL AWAITS (1 CORINTHIANS 13).
“Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal. 2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing. 3 And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing.” 1 Corinthians 13
The national anthem of the rebel who cloaks himself with his religious facade is “I Did it MY Way.” To know God and to be in Heaven eternally instead of hell, one must do things on God’s terms and no other.
So called “mother” Teresa never once even claimed to be born again, washed in the blood of Jesus Christ, or anything but an idolatrous Catholic who was in rejection of the perfect sacrifice of Jesus and “earning” her own salvation. She admitted to being a lost soul in her own books.
“If you do your research yourself, you will find the truth about Mother Teresa. She rarely showed up to her own ministry headquarters in Calcutta. MOST of the money given to her “ministry” went to the Vatican.” Maria Valdez
“It’s said that on her dying bed she repeated, ‘It’s so dark.’” Valencia Hargrave
Beware of this generation of counterfeit “Christians” being raised up who think that they do God service by their own good works. They are being sold down the river into hell. They refuse to receive the grace of God freely given in Christ and to obey Him in preaching His saving Gospel message which Jesus sends His people forth to do (Matthew 28:18-20; Mark 16:15-20).
Someone may say, “But what about Acts 10:35?” “But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.”
Reply: v. 35 of Acts 10 must be taken in context with its immediate text and also the whole of Scripture. Note Acts 15:11 – “But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they.” Good works are a mere outworking of saving grace. No one earns their way into Heaven – only Jesus could have and did do that. Rom. 3:23-25
The Word of God tells us that even if we give our very lives without being led of Christ and loving Him supremely, it will profit us zilch:
“And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing.” 1 Corinthians 13:3
Many today are being misled to believe that if they will give to a local church to help them build a physical building or do something else that is never seen in the New Testament Scriptures, that they are meriting treasure from God. They give in vain unless it’s to a needy person (especially a Christian) or a ministry that is genuinely fulfilling a New Testament purpose.
Digging a bit deeper than the surface, one will find that it’s ALL a publicity stunt of the Catholic church to “confirm” their adherents in the lies that snare and keep bound their souls.
Deborah Blanchard notes:
“Mother Teresa wasn’t even a mother…where does man get these titles anyway? Nuns are called mothers? Man made false titles! She espoused teaching not the truth of Jesus Christ being the only way to the Father but that anyone can be a better person, Hindu, Buddhist, Muslim…etc.”
Mother Teresa was yet another pawn of the pagan Catholic church. They did photo shoots to stage her as some hero of help. She championed the cause of a false religion that is leading millions to hell. So, she is a false prophet. Also, Teresa never – not one time – spoke the words of Christ expressing the clear truth of how to become a Christian. She never once spoke Christ’s words “Repent” or “Ye MUST be born again” (Matthew 4:17; John 3:3, 7). We know by this that she is “accursed” for preaching “another gospel” (Galatians 1:6-9). Like all Catholics, Mother Teresa never once said what Paul taught about being saved by the grace of Christ through faith in Jesus Christ alone (Ephesians 2:8-9).
“Mother Teresa did not testify to the Gospel. Her focus was on the virtues of ‘ Suffering.’ Although she won a Nobel Peace Prize for her humanitarian work and founded the Missionaries of Charity, the millions of dollars she attained from the rich on her World Tour was not used to improve the impoverished lifestyle of the suffering people of India! Mother Teresa’s money was mostly spent on religious activities and not on the poor. She built a hundred facilities all over the world bearing her name and organization ‘Missionaries of Charity.’ Most of them were nunneries used to train uneducated and obedient young women in her beliefs which served to establish a ‘Cult of Suffering’.” Kristin S.
It’s not our suffering that merits any bit of God’s mercy and saving grace but rather the suffering of the one Messiah, Jesus Christ, on that cross 2,000 years ago. As He was bleeding for our sins, He declared, “It is finished” which means “Paid in Full!” (John 19:30). Our sins have now been paid for in full by Christ alone and only through knowing Him can anyone be saved. Peace with God
Salvation is in Jesus Christ alone. There is no salvation in Rome. No sinner dressed in a religious costume can forgive his own sins, much less anyone else’s. Only GOD can forgive sins and He will only do that for those who come directly to Him through Christ, the only Mediator between God and man. Jesus says that only “The Son of man hath power on earth to forgive sins” (Matthew 9:6). The Catholic church is a works-based, Christ-denying antichrist cult. They worship “another Jesus” (2 Corinthians 11:2-5). Trusting the Catholic Religion?
“And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.” Matthew 23:9
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“Imagine how much damage (to souls) Mother Theresa did in misleading many to follow her in the way of the Roman Catholic Church rather than following Jesus Christ. The way is narrow. The way is Jesus Christ of Nazareth. No other way will do.” D.A.
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“Mother Theresa in my opinion is in Heaven, when I think of her I SEE JESUS and LOVE.” Sandra
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Hi Sandra. On what basis was she a Christian? Did Jesus Christ come in vain? Are we going to call the Son of God a liar? Please quote mother Teresa giving the original Gospel please. Good works do not earn anyone favor, forgiveness or Heaven …. without exception, we have all sinned against God, the Judge of our eternal souls …. We have all lied, stolen, used His holy name in vain, not honored our parents, etc. Jesus came to save and forgive, something He alone can do. Mother Teresa preached no such thing. She touted and championed the cause of a false religion, misleading millions. Jesus says “Ye must be born again.” John 3:3, 7 … “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.” Ephesians 2:8-9
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“Actually, I heard this nun preach with my own ears. She preached Jesus Christ and it was powerful. Read HER writings, not what others have to say.” Pam
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Hi Pam. Where did “mother” Teresa ever preach that the sinner must “repent” and that “ye must be born again” and that you can only be saved by the grace of God through Jesus Christ and not by your own works? Please give us chapter and page number in her books. Waiting. … Luke 13:3; John 3:3, 7; Eph. 2:8-9 … Unfortunately, you will never find her preaching that original Gospel but “another gospel” which is a false gospel … So-called “mother” Teresa perpetrated and championed a false religion, leading many to eternal damnation.
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Apostasy
The Truth about Fellowship and Going to “Church” [podcast]
The Simplicity of Fellowship that Exalts and Glorifies Christ
“And they continued stedfastly in the apostles’ doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers. ” Acts 2:42
MANY today peddle the importance of fellowship because they hear it from their pastors on a regular basis. Yet, much more important than man to man fellowship is God to man, and man to God fellowship. This is little spoken of. And, what passes and is pawned off as “fellowship” today doesn’t fit the biblical description, the prescription for fellowship (Acts 2:42-47; Colossians 3:16, etc.). It’s not even a faint resemblance.
Jesus sums up the divine order of priority for and in the lives of all who will know Him and the Father.
“Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. 38 This is the first and great commandment. 39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.” Matthew 22:37-40
WHAT’s more important 1. Fellowship with God, or 2. Fellowship with man? God! (Read Matthew 22:37-40.) In fact, your fellowship with man will only be according to your fellowship with our Maker.
The goal here is not to diminish the importance of fellowship with other members of Christ’s body but to ascertain the priorities of God and set them in their biblical order.
“Many pastors have destroyed my vineyard, they have trodden my portion under foot, they have made my pleasant portion a desolate wilderness.” Jeremiah 12:10
Pastors today (many of whom went to long-time apostate seminaries), are building a business instead of building the kingdom of Christ in the heart of those for whom He came and died. When Jesus said “I will build my church” He was speaking about building His kingdom in the hearts of His beloved people (Matthew 16:18).
Sister Nelline writes:
“I’ve recently left the organized church, couldn’t take it anymore. The pastor there used those tactics about coming to church and how you shouldn’t miss. Even threatened to stop the live stream because he felt people would rather stay home to watch instead of attend. But the one that really got me is, after I had been out sick a few weeks when I returned his first words to me were.. ‘How far back have you backslid?’ I told him I hadn’t backslid at all and added that I listen to preaching all the time. He said, it isn’t the same. Had to bite my lip from saying YOU GOT THAT RIGHT!”
Their prayer and goal and work does not center around Christ Jesus and seeing His people grow to know Him yet more and more and be established ever more deeply in His grace (Colossians 2:6-10). No, they seek to use any manipulating method they can to vest their prey in their ministry busine$$. They’ve turned the house of God, the place that is supposed to be for the worship of the LORD alone, into a den of thieves, and they are the thieves (Matthew 21:15-17).
“Finally, my brethren, rejoice in the Lord. To write the same things to you, to me indeed is not grievous, but for you it is safe. 2 Beware of dogs, beware of evil workers, beware of the concision. 3 For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh.” Philippians 3:1-3
“We Would See Jesus.” John 12:21
We are looking for, seeking Christ, not a church or a Christian “hero” or type of evangelical “pope.”
“Cease ye from man, whose breath is in his nostrils: for wherein is he to be accounted of?” Isaiah 2:22
Fellowship Priority
Yes, we fellowship with one another as Christ’s saints and yet by order of divine priority, “truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ” (1 John 1:3).
“That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.” 1 John 1:3
Many in ministry, building their own church business empire, put more emphasis on your fellowship with THEM rather than God. Beware.
The sobering reality is that the vast majority of church gatherings once a week are simply businesses with a paid conductor and volunteer staff.
In today’s church world we do not witness people who live a life of prayer fueling a life filled with Gospel action as we see of the earliest believers beginning in the book of Acts. “There is no new thing under the sun,” and this is how it’s always been among those who profess, who pretend to know God. Zephaniah the prophet exposed the circus conductor leaders of his day and ours.
“Her prophets are light and treacherous persons: her priests have polluted the sanctuary, they have done violence to the law.” Zephaniah 3:4
Rather we see that “Christianity” today consists of merely attending church, being part of a club that meets weekly to mull over felt needs instead of knowing Jesus, true repentance, personal holiness, a denial of self, the crucified life, and getting into the Word. Christianity has been reduced to attending a one hour circus on Sunday morning, hearing a few stories and a few verses from a cotton candy fake “bible” and a psychology laced sermonette. The fruit of the lives of of its adherents tells the story.
Sad Sunday Saps
“‘Church’ fellowship is kind of a joke these days. I’ve observed nothing more than a networking event in some cases where realtors and other entrepreneurs are just looking for business leads while hanging out at the church coffee bar.” Jennifer
May the truth of God blast us out of the sink holes, the quick sand that has absorbed us downward.
Is that what our lives, your life has come to? Is this all there is…. a stale, mundane country club membership in a mutual admiration society where overcoming sin is mocked at, the cross of Christ and crucified life are never heard from the Word and by the power of the Holy Ghost? Where’s the life of Christ truly in our daily lives? What kind of Gospel action is transpiring in your personal daily life?
“Therefore they that were scattered abroad went every where preaching the word.” Acts 8:4
In the New Testament canon we don’t see any such “Christianity” as we witness today and hence the use of the word “churchianity” where the extent of “Christianity” is reduced to church membership and attendance.
Deep is calling unto deep beloved…. God is speaking to the hearts of His people to cry out to Him, to come unto Him with tears of repentance, asking Him to do something deeper, to rescue them from the pit, the muck-laden miry clay of religiosity, a mere “form of godliness,” and to establish them in a genuine walk and life of His authentic disciple. The Holy Ghost via Paul prophesied of this very day which is upon us (2 Timothy 3:1-7-13). Instead of being about Christ and His people, it’s all about the self-absorbed, self-idolatrous, entertainment of the prey.
“Sow to yourselves in righteousness, reap in mercy; break up your fallow ground: for it is time to seek the LORD, till he come and rain righteousness upon you.” Hosea 10:12
Scripture reveals that true fellowship is essential, not faithfulness to a certain group that meets in a certain building once or more weekly.
When told about good preaching at a certain local church, one disciple responded this way (sobering and true):
“So did my pastor preach the whole truth but nothing ever stuck, no revival meeting or guest ‘evangelist’ ever taught me anything that made any significant change in me. It was only when I invested my time and money into knowing what’s between Genesis 1:1 and Revelation 22:21 that I really began to know my Bible. It all started with Proverbs 8:17 where I took God at His word and held Him accountable for keeping his end of the bargain as I kept my end.”
Saints, many have been sold the bill of goods concerning “church” attendance and membership. Like trained monkeys they’ve been indoctrinated to be faithful to the local church, not Christ. The whole scam is set up to benefit the frauds who designed and who perpetrate it. They push people to be loyal to the system, not the Savior. Run.
THERE are so many who will be shocked to be separated from Christ in the end and it’s because they were told all their lives and believed that being faithful to their local church and pastor meant they were being loyal to God. In most cases, faithful church members are wasting their energy, heart affections, and money as they have pushed Christ aside to serve their wolf pastor and that local church and its agenda.
“But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. 2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. 3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.” 2 Peter 2:1-3
“For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.” Romans 16:18
One follower of the KING writes:
“So many in the ‘church’ world have no idea what it means to truly follow Jesus. I know that I fall short all the time too and yet am blessed to repent daily and do my best to be obedient to His Word as well as share His truth with others. I long to know Jesus and His Word even more daily.”
The biblical definition of “Official” would grossly differ from the commercialization of the den of thieves many call “church” today. Jesus is calling His remnant to “come out of her” or be consumed with her (2 Cor 6:17; Rev 18:4-5). I don’t know even one regular “church” attender of the modern church who is on fire for Jesus, who is winning souls, who is in the Word daily, fervently, who is prayed and fasted up, who is feeding Christ’s sheep. And those false churches don’t even use the real Bible, the King James Bible, they use fake “bibles,” lame.
Monetizing the Ministry
False leaders have long ago used their position over the people for their own self-serving benefit. They gather the people to garner their funds. They push for the people to gather, getting them to become a member, and yet are not fulfilling the ordained role of an overseer – to feed the flock and watch for their souls – yet received pay for such (Hebrews 13:7, 17). See Isaiah 56:8-12; Jeremiah 12:10; 23; Ezekiel 34; Zephaniah 3:4; Matthew 24:4-5; 2 Peter 2:1-3. Misuse of funds. Misappropriation.
Jesus exposed them…. by showing how they put on a big show to rob the people:
“Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows’ houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation. 15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.” Matthew 23:4-5
“Son of man, prophesy against the shepherds of Israel, prophesy, and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD unto the shepherds; Woe be to the shepherds of Israel that do feed themselves! should not the shepherds feed the flocks?….. 10 Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against the shepherds; and I will require my flock at their hand, and cause them to cease from feeding the flock; neither shall the shepherds feed themselves any more; for I will deliver my flock from their mouth, that they may not be meat for them.” Ezekiel 34:1, 20
TRUE NEW TESTAMENT FELLOWSHIP DOES NOT EQUAL GOING TO A “CHURCH BUILDING” ON SUNDAY MORNING – SPECIFICALLY IF THAT GATHERING IS NOT CHRIST-CENTERED, FIERCELY BIBLICAL, AND FULL OF GOD’S LOVE AND STRICT ADHERENCE TO HIS HOLY, WRITTEN WORD.
When you are seeking Christ daily, you don’t need a Sunday morning pep rally.
Looking for the church means simply looking for other true members of Christ’s body! WE are HIS church – called out ones. Amen Jesus. Fellowship, Gatherings
Do the 4 simple elements seen in Acts 2:42 exist in the fellowship you attend? Also, what’s been added?
The WORD will always be front and center and not salaried frauds pretending to be true elders of the remnant body of Christ (Colossians 3:16).
As He did twice when He walked the earth, if Jesus were here today in the flesh, He would be flipping 99% of “churches” who’ve made the place of worship a den of thieves – to rob the people of their pure worship of God, of their time, of their money, of their place with God, etc. (Matthew 21; John 2). He’s still doing it through His servants who fearlessly preach His Word (Romans 16:17-18; Galatians 2; Jude 3-4; etc.).
Connie Hatten
“Our church went Purpose Driven too! I remember noticing THAT’S when it all changed for the worst. Rick Warren used MULTIPLE modern Bible perversions, and his online ‘network’ of resources can be accessed by pastors to download Sermons, etc! What happened to studying God’s Word and going to the HOLY SPIRIT?!”
Barbara H Kuks
“I noticed a change in the Bible study classes. I heard the church Pastor and staff actually went to visit Warren’s church back then. It was kept quiet but the changes were obvious. No more time or room for the Holy Spirit or words of knowledge in the services. They started television the Sunday morning service and limiting time etc. Became very theatrical and not spontaneous at all.”
“Since leaving church 9 months ago, I have grown by leaps and bounds in my faith. And in the knowledge of his word. Bless you brother!” C.
“Okay, sharing one of my biggest mistakes. We had family devotions when the kids were young. My sister and her husband and kids lived with us and we all took part in family worship. Then . . . my husband always liked this Pentecostal church near us and decided we would go there. They had something almost every night and that was the mantra, ‘Be in church whenever the doors were open.’ Our family devotions were so GOOD, but we dropped it for being in church, not realizing at the time that it was a bad decision.” Arlean
“I been out of “organized religion“ for many years now and I am closer to God than ever before.“ Tracy Parker
Not all fellowships and yet….. organized religion can many times seduce us AWAY from Christ and not endear us to Him. See Colossians 2:18-19.
Sharon Matthews writes:
“The modern church keeps their flock dependent on them. They also keep them busy doing different things instead of giving them the Word of God regarding becoming a disciple of Jesus. Following Jesus will cost them their way of life. Obedience is a byword, not a reality for most. It’s easier to go somewhere to listen to men instead of searching the Scriptures for real life in Christ. Many fill their mind with Scripture but don’t care to act on it—give up their own life in exchange for the life of Christ in them. Sloppy grace is everywhere! Churches (not all) don’t want to lose people, or teach children God’s Word, they might get offended and leave. Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life. He said, come follow Me.”
The Bible truth is assembling to fellowship (Acts 2:42; Heb 10:25). As was the case when Jesus got here, the organized church was completely apostate. We have virtually (at least) the same today. There were no church buildings in the early church. Not a penny was collected to build a physical building either – especially not to build the real estate property for a man or men to use as their headquarters to make merchandise of the people, turning the house of prayer into a den of thieves (2 Peter 2:1-3; Matthew 21:12-17, etc.).
Jon Crane writes:
“I think the day the church sold itself to the state was when it became a 501c3. That very act of treason yoked them to mammon and divorced them from Christ. Just something I have been thinking about when I look at how God had to chasten Israel many times in the Old Testament. It always happened when they would forget God and chase after the things of this world. If I behaved this way in my marriage…well, I’m pretty sure I would get served. Yet, so many believe that God is okay with them cheating, as if they can force Jesus to bring the filthiness of their sin into His holy presence!
To the godly, seeing Jesus face to face in heaven will be the greatest joy, but I dare say; to never have to see my sin again will be a close second!”
All organized religion is false. Jesus and His apostles did not start any organization nor did they collect a penny to build a so-called “church” building – such is usually the work of wolves who exist to make “merchandise of you” (2 Peter 2:1-3). The Son of God and His holy apostles and the early church operated autonomously and were led and empowered by the Word and Holy Spirit of God. 501(C)(3) “churches” are stated owned, totally compromised, apostate. Run. Denounce. The Savior never sent anyone to sign up with the state to get permission to do His work.
“My kingdom is not of this world.” John 18:36
“Ye are bought with a price; be not ye the servants of men.” 1 Corinthians 7:23
“Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? 15 And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? 16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. 17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you, 18 And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.” 2 Corinthians 6:14-18
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“I got out of the apostate “church” about 3 or 4 years ago now. Can’t fellowship with any of those people now.” D.
REPLY:
This is the direction of Christ for His remnant. 2 Cor 6:17; Rev 18:4-5
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“The church comprises born again believers not a building. There are some great churches. DL Moody was used by God in a church in Chicago and in many churches in America and the UK. I have never been to a church that is controlled by the state. You can not say all churches are comprised many ARE but been to many that preach the Word without comprise and state control. I have heard many who preach repentance and hell. Attended a church, before his message the preacher got on his knees and prayed and ended every prayer to preach in the power of the Holy Spirit, that Sinners would not go to a place called hell. The Methodist recently had a split and came out from the United Methodist that are very comprised. Now they are independent Methodist.” Paul
REPLY:
You err here: I didn’t say all churches are controlled by the state but rather all 501C3 churches ARE. And that’s 100% truth. They signed a contract, they signed allegiance to the gov’t of mere men. Did Jesus, the prophets, or the apostle do such? No. You bear false witness as you state: “I have never been to a church that is controlled by the state.” EVERY church you’ve been to that is under a 501 C3 is state controlled without exception. For example, name even one of the churches you’ve been to that didn’t conform to the demonic, God-despising mask and 6 foot rule…. waiting. Yeah, I thought so – zero.
Whatever Wesley and Moody were, is all long gone. Moody institute was long ago taken over by the Vatican and I’ve got lots of personal experience with that. The UMC is also ecumenical, totally false, apostate.
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MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“This is called catastrophising. There’s a fair amount of truth in what you say, but you are making absolute statements that can’t be be absolutely true.
The biblical standard for absolute truth is that it must be absolutely true and your post just isn’t. Sorry.
I’ve been in churches for most of my six decades of walking with the Lord and I agree with much of what you say, but I draw the line at making this kind of sweeping generalisation and then implicitly condemning anyone and everyone who is part of a church. That is not biblical.
Go read what God said to Elijah on Mt Horeb, about how many people in Israel God had reserved for a remnant.
You mustn’t condemn people en masse this way. And you must not make absolute statements that don’t match the biblical standard of absolute truth. That is a sin.” Alan Heron
REPLY:
Apparently, there are no absolutes in your faulty thinking. There’s a spiritual undercurrent to your influences…. and such is not going unnoticed. Again, you err. Notice, contrary to your false statement alleging that I condemned people en masse, notice that the original post stated that all ORGANIZED RELIGION, not people, is false. Did this post say all groups who assemble are false OR that all who minister are false? That is a yes or a no. Waiting. Let me help you: No, it said all organized religion, all that is religiously organized 501c3 etc… is false and I stand on that as the truth. Your years of serving God as you allege, have nothing to do with the truth, so you may wish to leave such out next time.
Jezebel’s Table – ORGANIZED RELIGION – compromised, took the bribe to be paid, receive a salary, are under contract to tickled ears, to dodge, to purposely evade the hard truths of Scripture…. ALL false.
The 7,000 God speaks of were all like JTB and Christ and His apostles and prophets… independent of the entanglements, the corporatized conspiracies (Ezek. 22:25-27) of mere men and “there is no new thing under the sun” (Ecclesiastes 1:9). Remember how early in this chapter (1 Kings 18), the beloved Obadiah fed the non-corporatized 100 true prophets who refused to come under the fraud banner of state religion? They refused to organize with the fraud religious leaders who tucked their feet under jezebel’s table which means they were bought and paid for by the state, the religion of the 501 C3 type contract of their day. The 100 true prophets were independent, autonomous, more safe from the heard mentality and conformity – just like Jesus, the prophets, and apostles.
“Yet I have left me seven thousand in Israel, all the knees which have not bowed unto Baal (ALL the organized religionists did bow!), and every mouth which hath not kissed him. 1 Kings 19:18
“Now therefore send, and gather to me all Israel unto mount Carmel, and the prophets of Baal four hundred and fifty, and the prophets of the groves four hundred, which eat at JEZEBEL’S TABLE.” 1Ki_18:19
Arlean Benedict Kelley
“Yes. I’ve been to many state conventions and it’s like going to a business conference. Which church has added the most members, etc. But they are trying to do good with the best they know, I think.”
Elton Mishoe writes:
“I pastored 12 years in a “church” of 200. Tried to teach that every service. Higher ups couldn’t stand me. Lol. Finally gave a 10 year lease on that brick and mortar to another ministry and let them have it. Brick and mortar will perish and is only a meeting place. Church is where 2 or 3 are gathered in his name. Want to know the truth? go to the pastors, the higher ups in a denomination and ask to see salaries and benefits lol. Almost impossible to get the truth. Get involved with pastor meetings and watch them talk about nothing but ways to get more money into the church. I’ve Been there done it.
Most organized religion is 100% business and if a pastor bucks the system he is blackballed until he finally leaves or they get something to try to charge him with.
YES there are some pastors that give their life for the calling because they don’t consider it a job. But to most it’s a job. They use churches as stepping stones to get to the next bigger paying church. But it’s also the people’s fault they want all the bells and whistles and programs and the prestige of a huge church.
Worthy Pastors with no other income should be taken care of that’s biblical. Church of God is crooked as crooked gets, this one I know for a fact (1 Corinthians 9:1-14; 1 Timothy 5:17-18, etc.). Others are the same I’m sure. Want a good church? Good luck.”
One disciple of Jesus writes:
“At the last church I attended the pastor frequently said something like, “if you were a real Christian you would want to be in church every time the doors were open.” Goodness! that laid a huge guilt trip on me and others!
Being “in church” all the time took me away from learning about my God and Savior.
When I measured the time spent getting dressed and ready for church, driving to church, being in church, driving home from church, stopping at the store on my way from church and changing clothes after being in church I found that “church” consumed more of my time than Bible study.
I’m so thankful the Lord put an end to that for me and my husband. We now spend a LOT more time studying and getting to know our heavenly Father better than ever before. We have a home Bible study where we reach folks who would never “go” to a church but still love God, or one sister who thought she was being a good Christian and doing what God expected of her only to realize how far off base she’s been all these years.
Hallelujah!”
Clare R. Watts writes:
“Standing in the garage doesn’t make you a car. Hiding in the pantry doesn’t make you a jar of pickles, either. Going to church doesn’t save you, let alone make you a Believer! Surrendering to the Lord, obeying, trusting and following Jesus does.”
Jenny Douglas writes:
“Sadly with the rise of apostasy, false teaching, losing freedoms, etc., more and more of the remnant may have ‘church’ as the early followers did, from house to house. I see it coming.”
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