
Does “Abide” Mean that One Must Continue? Is Your Salvation Secure? [podcast]
Must one “abide” in Christ to the end after being saved in order to be in eternal glory with Christ, the Father, and their saints?
Yes.
“Abide in Christ” means to remain, dwell, or live in a continuous, intimate relationship with Jesus Christ. It’s about maintaining a close connection, relying on Him, and allowing His Word to shape one’s thoughts, will, and affections. Essentially, it’s about a life lived in constant communion with Christ.”
Typically, like the false religionists of Christ’s day, they put aside the WORD of God to keep their heretical tradition. In others words, they made their idol false doctrines king and final authority instead of God’s Word (Mark 7:6-9).
John 15:1-6
1 I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman.
2 Every branch IN ME that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit.
3 Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you.
4 ABIDE (remain, continue) IN ME, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it ABIDE in the vine; no more can ye, except ye ABIDE IN ME.
5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that ABIDETH IN ME, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.
6 If a man ABIDE not IN ME, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.
Of this passage, we received a typical reply from an indoctrinated eternal security pawn.
“This is a warning for false converts. They were never saved in the first place. Jesus will not lose one that his father has given him..so if the false convert takes heed to this warning … hopefully they would be led to true salvation through the gospel.” Craig
MY REPLY:
Nice try. Typically, like false religionists of Christ’s day, they put aside the WORD of God to keep their heretical tradition. In others words, they made their idol false doctrines king and final authority instead of God’s Word (Mark 7:6-9). The context of John 15:1-6. Context John 15:1-6. Notice the term “IN ME” appears 5 times …. so were they in Christ, or saved? Yes. In Verse 3 they were cleansed by His Word (regeneration Titus 3:5-7). Also in this passage, the word “abide” appears 5 times. “Abide” means to remain, to continue in Him. So, why would Jesus be telling the counterfeit, a lost souls to continue in Him if they weren’t even saved? That would be lunacy.
Of this passage, Alan Heron writes:
“Craig, this cannot be true, as Jesus explicitly stated that this person WAS ‘in Him’, but IF he didn’t REMAIN ‘in Him’, he would be cast off. There’s no mention of this person being self-deluded into BELIEVING that he was in Christ, merely Jesus’ statement that this person WAS in Him. You can’t be cut off from a vine that you were never a part of. To argue otherwise is deny basic logic.”
Undeniably, un-conditional eternal security is the first lie Satan told to mankind which caused his fall – and he’s still telling the same lie (Genesis 2:17; 3:4). Jesus taught “If a man abide (remain) not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned” (John 15:6). See also Ezekiel 33:12-13; Matthew 10:22; 24:13; 2 Peter 2:20-21; Hebrews 10:26-39, etc.).
The eternal security frauds, cowards, HATE Jesus’s teaching on the absolute necessity of abiding, continuing with Him after being saved – or else suffering the consequence of eternal fire (John 15:6). It’s time to man up, read John 15 honestly, and take personal accountability before the LORD who uttered those words.
Abide or Perish – YOU Don’t Make Up the Rules – God Does! And if You Don’t Abide by them, You Shall Perish as a Rebel.
Notice Jesus said “IF” – “IFFFFF you abide (walk, continue, remain) in me” – which clearly denotes terms you must agree to and walk in or all is lost (John 15:1-6). This speaks of a CONDITIONAL and not an un-conditional eternal salvation. If after being saved, that person does not continue in Christ, what did Jesus say will happen? Let’s review His words again:
“IF a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and CAST THEM INTO THE FIRE, and they are burned.” John 15:6
To “abide” is to remain, to continue and so there are things involved, there are conditions to meet, responsibilities for the recipient, otherwise why these words from Jesus? Who’s the fool – you are the Son of God? What if fiance’ doesn’t remain in relationship with the man/woman he/she is engaged to marry? Will that marriage happen or will it the engagement be ended? The answer is obvious by the 5 foolish virgins being shut out of the eternal bridal chamber. Read Matthew 25:1-13.
The finished work of Christ is a foundational truth of Christianity, but His accomplishment on that cross does not arbitrarily, automatically guarantee the final salvation of the individual He graciously saved in the past. Christ’s perfect and completed work to save mankind does not change the God-given free will of each human being – AND THE UTTER IMPERATIVE, ESSENTIAL OF FAITH-FILLED OBEDIENCE, abiding, ENDURING TO THE END.
When Jesus stated “It is finished,” that did NOT cancel or negate or diminish from ANYTHING else He stated. Jesus says to those He saves that they must “abide” in Him or they will be burned in the fires of eternal damnation (John 15:6). To “abide” simply means to intimately fellowship with, remain in and continue in, which is essential. He says we must “endure to the end” to be saved into eternal glory (Matthew 10:22; 24:13; John 15:6, etc.).
Jesus certainly did pay the perfect price to purchase you out of sin, back to the Father, and yet, your appropriation of that gift is a requirement. Christ’s perfect sacrifice does not in any way remove what Christ Himself mandated for you to do in order for you to remain in Him and be with Him eternally! Salvation is conditional, not un-conditional. And it’s only those who refuse to truly repent and meet those conditions who ravenously balk at such a clear observation of Scripture. They have chosen NOT to love the LORD with all their being and are still in love with self and therefore violently react to the biblical truth that they are personally accountable to God – to obey Him or perish (Matthew 7:21; 1 John 2:4; 3:3-10; Titus 1:16; Revelation 2:26; 3:5, etc.).
Biblically speaking, the perfect finished work of Christ is only appropriated by those who repent, abide in Christ, enduring to the end in love, faith and worship of Him. Remember that true saving faith ALWAYS, without exception will be witnessed in the fruit of good works (Revelation 2:26). All who get saved and don’t abide, remain, endure, continue in Christ to the end of their lives on earth, will perish, and their suffering will be even worse! (Hebrews 10:29-21; 2 Peter 2:20-21).
Eternal security/OSAS is diabolically designed to justify sin and lukewarmness, prevent the once saved person from living a repentant life, denying self in this sinful world, taking up the cross, and following Jesus for real! OSAS is the lie Satan uses to steal back the souls he lost (Titus 2:11-14; 1 John 3:3-10; Revelation 2:4-5; 3:15-16, etc.). This is the very first lie of Satan which led to the fall of mankind (Genesis 2:17; 3:4).
Get saved – Stay saved! It’s not enough to get saved. One must stay saved.
Some of the Baptist persuasion for example, upon hearing the truth, regrettably choose to continue to peddle the OSAS (once saved always saved)/eternal security lie – to cling to a diabolical tradition, heresy, instead of conforming to the truth.
John 15 is a very important passage and we should prayerfully pour over it and ask God to bless us to truly “abide” in Christ – on HIS terms, according to HIS definition!
“If a man abide (remain) not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.” John 15:6
God is working in the lives of every abiding believer! Than You Jesus!
OSAS is a Christ-denying, cross-rejecting message. It circumvents what God demands – that you truly repent, lay down your life, take up the cross, and live a crucified life (Luke 9:23-24; Galatians 2:20; 5:24; Colossians 3:3, etc.). YOU are no match for sin – so just die so Christ can reign and conquer in your life! (Luke 9:23-24; 1 Peter 4:1-2, etc.)
“Work out (not for) your own salvation with fear and trembling. 13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.” Philippians 2:12-13
Your part is to “Work out your own salvation with fear and trembling” and His part is working in you “to will and to do of his good pleasure.”
“Continue” – a Bible Word/Truth Deliberately Avoided by False Teacher
“In the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight: 23 If ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which ye have heard, and which was preached to every creature which is under heaven; whereof I Paul am made a minister;” Colossians 1:22-23
“By which also ye are saved, IF ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.” 1 Corinthians 15:2
Jesus said to His own disciples that He required them to endure to the end to be saved therefore we must conclude that any man teaching otherwise is a false teacher and lying against the LORD.
“And ye shall be hated of all men for my name’s sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.” Matthew 10:22
“And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. 12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold. 13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.” Matthew 24:10-13
What could Jesus possibly have meant other than what He said?
IF you don’t authentically love the truth, aren’t humble, aren’t willing to change, you are a foolish virgin who will be shut out of Christ’s eternal kingdom! Repent now. (Matthew 18:3-4; 25:1-3)
Paul didn’t believe he was un-conditionally eternally secure. He told us that he knew he was in jeopardy of losing it all if he didn’t remain in Christ, a crucified vessel:
“But I keep under my body (a continual necessity), and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.” 1 Corinthians 9:27
Many times we hear John 10:28-29 cited to “prove” OSAS when the person saying this never considers the condition Jesus gave for such a promise not to be plucked out of His hand.
Yes Jesus told us in v. 27 of John 10 exactly who He was speaking to – those who hear (present tense) His voice and follow (present tense) Him:
“My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: 28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they (those who are presently hearing His voice and following Him) shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. 29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father’s hand.” John 10:27-29
In v. 27 above Jesus gives the condition for the promise of verses 28-29.
Jesus defines His sheep as those who currently hear His voice and are presently following Him. Present tense! Jesus says …..
“My sheep …
- hear my voice, and
- I know them, and
- they follow me…”
Read John 15:1-6.
One writer notes the following:
“To hate is the world’s part, but to endure until the end is our key part who suffer for our Lord. To be hated is a key point to keep in mind of the world, but to endure is our key to succeed and to enter into the kingdom of heaven.”
TODAY, Jesus is continuing the good work of redemption He began in you the moment He saved you from sin into His eternal kingdom! You have His divine promise on this – and His instruction for you to “abide” – to remain and continue with Him or be cast into the fires of eternal damnation (John 15:1-6)
YOU can only be turned over to a “strong delusion” by God if you do not choose to love and devour and obey His truth! (2 Thessalonians 2:9-12) And you will be if you are not “valiant for the truth” (Jeremiah 9:3).
RECENTLY: Some lady was attempting to say that those Jesus saves have no conditions or responsibilities to meet. She said there are no conditions. She also said that Jesus was not speaking to saved people when giving this discourse on abiding in Him and bearing fruit in John 15:1-6. Here was the response to her:
What could Jesus’ command to “abide” mean other than remaining in relationship with Him? And, it must and does require something of you. But since your heart is lawless, you want nothing to do with dying, laying down your life, taking up the cross DAILY and truly following Jesus as He commanded.
Now you are lying on the LORD. Notice the words HE uses …. “in me” …. He tells us exactly who He is addressing and why would He be so intent upon speaking of abiding/remaining in Him if His audience weren’t already in Him??????
Joh 15:1 I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman.
Joh 15:2 Every branch IN ME that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit.
Joh 15:3 Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you.
Joh 15:4 Abide (remain) IN ME, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.
Joh 15:5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.
Joh 15:6 If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.
Hold Fast … firm to the end … Do not depart from the living God … do not be hardened in heart … so you can be partakers of Christ …. hold your faith, your confidence in God stedfast to the end …
“But Christ as a son over his own house; whose house are we, IFFFFF we hold fast the confidence and the rejoicing of the hope firm unto the end. … Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God. 13 But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin. 14 For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end;” Hebrews 3:6, 12-14
“For if AFTER they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. 21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.” 2 Peter 2:20-21
OSAS EXCUSE:
“Oh but ‘endure to the end’ is speaking of the Tribulation.”
REPLY:
Lame. False. Enduring to the end, final salvation, is taught throughout Scripture – by Christ and His apostles. Yet, if you are hell bent on believing Satan’s first lie – OSAS/eternal security, there’s nothing I can do (Genes 2:17; 3:4). Read Hebrews 3:6, 12-14; 10:26-39; Colossians 1:22-23; Revelation 3:5; 2:26, etc. Many put this OSAS doctrine of devils and doctrine of sinful men above God’s Word. IF you are not a man/woman of truth, there’s nothing I can do for you or God – just like the counterfeit religionists of Jesus’ day to whom He said:
“He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me.
Mar 7:7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men (like OSAS).
Mar 7:8 For laying aside the commandment of God (you lower it), ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.
Mar 7:9 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God (Word of God), that ye may keep your own tradition.” Mark 7:6-9
The Holy Spirit dwells in every true believer but that in no way guarantees or forces that individual to “abide,” that is, remain, continue in Christ to the end of His life on earth. And Jesus says to His own that we must “endure to the end” to be “saved” to “abide” and if we don’t we shall be cast into the fire (Matthew 10:22; 24:13; John 15:6, etc.). God’s Word teaches both initial salvation and final salvation. Most of the evangelical world has been deceived into limiting salvation to that initial born again experience. “If we deny him he also WILL deny us” (2 Timothy 2:12).
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Abiding
Empowered by His Word and Cross [podcast]

Being Crucified with Christ Assures that we will Preach His Word.
Why do people get weak and compromise, and faint in the battle?
“If thou faint in the day of adversity, thy strength is small.” Proverbs 24:10
How to go from “small” “strength” to much strength
How to get built up, to be “nourished up” …..
“praying in the Holy Ghost.”
“But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost.” Jude 20
“nourished up in the words of faith and of good doctrine”
“If thou put the brethren in remembrance of these things, thou shalt be a good minister of Jesus Christ, nourished up in the words of faith and of good doctrine, whereunto thou hast attained.”1 Timothy 4:6
“Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly” – running rich on the divine fuel of God’s Word.
“Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom; teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord.” Colossians 3:16

“For I am the LORD, I change not.” Malachi 3:6
“Our love to the word of God is evidence of our Love to God”. Matthew Henry.
God, and therefore what He’s stated are unchanging, unfailing, everlasting, ever-living and ever-relevant.
The LORD would and will never contradict His own Word.
“For ever, O LORD, thy word is settled in heaven.” Psalms 119:89
“My covenant will I not break, nor alter the thing that is gone out of my lips.” Psalms 89:34
The LORD’s Word cannot and will not change because He will never change. Divinity, eternal perfection, needs no change.
“Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away.” Mark 13:31
The Word of God is the authority of God – the very “thoughts of his heart.”
“The counsel of the LORD standeth for ever, the thoughts of his heart to all generations.” Psalms 33:11
Jesus called the Scripture the authority of God.
“Therefore also said the wisdom of God, I will send them prophets and apostles, and some of them they shall slay and persecute:” Luke 11:49
Yet you speak of the “present voice of God” which is concerning. Has anything God has ever stated even minutely diminished? No. Impossible. God is unchanging and therefore so is His written Word. Ps 89:34; 119:89; Mark 13:31 …. Psalms 119:105 is the way we walk in the Spirit. The leading of the Holy Spirit can never be separated from the written Word. “God is not the author of confusion” and so will never contradict Himself (1 Corinthians 14:33).
Every part of His creation is changing, yet He is forever Constant.
“The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: but the word of our God shall stand for ever.” Isaiah 40:8
What God has stated in His Word will come to pass and has no expiration date.
“Seek ye out of the book of the LORD, and read: no one of these shall fail.” Isaiah 34:16
As seen from the inception, in the very Garden of creation, Satan wants the “foundation” …..removed or diminished.
“If the foundations be destroyed, what can the righteous do?” Psalms 11:3
“that those things which cannot be shaken may remain.”
“And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.
25 See that ye refuse not him that speaketh. For if they escaped not who refused him that spake on earth, much more shall not we escape, if we turn away from him that speaketh from heaven:
26 Whose voice then shook the earth: but now he hath promised, saying, Yet once more I shake not the earth only, but also heaven.
27 And this word, Yet once more, signifieth the removing of those things that are shaken, as of things that are made, that those things which cannot be shaken may remain.
28 Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear:
29 For our God is a consuming fire.” Hebrews 12:24-29
Building the house of our lives on the Word, the only sure, eternal foundation.
“Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:
25 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock.
26 And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand:
27 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.
28 And it came to pass, when Jesus had ended these sayings, the people were astonished at his doctrine:
29 For he taught them as one having authority, and not as the scribes.” Matthew 7:19-29
May He bless His children to be strictly and inseparably cemented in and to His Word amen!
“The counsel of the LORD standeth for ever, the thoughts of his heart to all generations.” Psalms 33:11
Have you ever pondered why there is little or no Scripture being used when listening to someone pretending to be speaking about the LORD? You should wonder (Matthew 7:16, 20; 1 John 4:1).
Isa 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.
Isa 8:16 Bind up the testimony, seal the law among my disciples.
“Preach the word” is the divine mandate, command (2 Timothy 4:2).
Let us cease to pretend that we represent the LORD when everything we say isn’t coming straight out of His Word. Read that again please. He didn’t instruct us to entertain or to tell stories. He commanded us to preach HIS Word. King James Bible.
“If any man speak, let him speak as the oracles (written Word) of God; if any man minister, let him do it as of the ability which God giveth: that God in all things may be glorified through Jesus Christ, to whom be praise and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.” 1 Peter 4:11
Think God is calling you to serve? Good. If He has saved you, He has called you (Ephesians 2:8-10; 4:7). Get lost in His Word every day (Jeremiah 15:16). Read it (Revelation 1:3). Study it (2 Timothy 2:15). Memorize it (Proverbs 4:4). Meditate upon it day and night (Joshua 1:8; Psalm 1). THAT’s your prep for ministry, not going to an antichrist seminary. Jesus inducted you into His school of the Holy Ghost and Word the moment He saved you.
Are you daily devouring God’s Word, OR are you backsliding?
“Thy words were found, and I did eat them; and thy word was unto me the joy and rejoicing of mine heart: for I am called by thy name, O Lord God of hosts.” Jeremiah 15:16
“I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.” Galatians 2:20
Speaking the Word of God in the Crucified Life.
“For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God.” Colossians 3:3
It’s only those who choose NOT to love the truth who remain in darkness. Speaking of the “man of sin” (v3) to come and also all men, God’s Word states:
“Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; BECAUSE THEY RECEIVED NOT THE LOVE OF THE TRUTH, that they might be saved. 11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.” 2 Thessalonians 2:9-12
When one turns his heart to the LORD, the darkness, the blindness subsides:
“Nevertheless when it (the heart) shall turn to the Lord, the vail shall be taken away. 17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. 18 But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord.” 2 Corinthians 3:16-18
Will you love darkness or will you turn to God in repentance and love “the light of the world” Jesus Christ and His truth?
“And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.” John 3:19-21
Prayer: Holy Father, I know You are unchanging, and Your Word is settled in Heaven. Thank You so very much for giving us Your unalterable Word, for preserving it for us. In Jesus’ name, amen.
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Abiding
The Perpetual Washing of the Blood of Jesus and the Water of the Word [podcast]

HERE’S WHAT BEING FULFILLED, WHAT’S COMING TO PASS RIGHT NOW
“Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name’s sake.10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another. 11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. 12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold. 13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. 14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.” Matthew 24:10-14
In the midst of the prophesied great apostasy we are in, Christ’s Remnant are…
- Waxing hotter in their love for God v12
- Enduring to the end v13
- Preaching Christ’s kingdom Gospel to the lost v14
“God is love” and God is “Holy, holy, holy.” (1 John 4:8, 16; Isaiah 6:3; Revelation 4:8)
He loves us. Fact.
He is holy. Fact.
Do we love Him?
Such will determine our eternal destination.
“And to love him with all the heart, and with all the understanding, and with all the soul, and with all the strength, and to love his neighbour as himself, is more than all whole burnt offerings and sacrifices.” Mark 12:33
Choosing to love God with….
“all the heart”
“all the understanding”
“all the soul”
“all they strength”
“We are commanded to love God with all of our heart, soul, and mind (Mat 22:37). That means a total surrender of all that one holds dear, including yourself. It is a command from the LORD to love God with every fiber of our being and to have Him as our first love. This means a wholehearted devotion to Him, and Him alone. Let your heart be the dwelling place for the Lord.” Karen Cochran
“Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it; 26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word, 27 That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.” Ephesians 5:25-27
“IF”
“But IF we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.”1 John 1:7
“IF we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 1 John 1:9
“Continually”
“Seek the LORD and his strength, seek his face continually.” 1 Chronicles 16:11
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America’s Path to Destruction According to Holy Scripture [podcast]

Sadly, so many today, who claim to be Christians, spend more time, money, and energy seeking to save the sinking ship called America (a corporation under which they are slaves) than they do obeying Christ’s Great Commission command to teach His Word and preach the Gospel to the lost (Matthew 28:18-20; Mark 16:15-20). They have chosen America over the LORD (Matthew 6:24; 12:30). So very man “church” members and yet Jesus Christ is not their “first love.” (Revelation 2:4-5) Patriotism is their idol, vainly believing they can vote away divine judgment. Most of their time, money, and energy is wasted on the futility of the temporal. Nothing will save America – no campaign, political party, voting block, or otherwise. God is judging America. It’s over as we once knew it.
God judges nations and has a timing, a frame of time, an “instant” including a beginning and ending point, where He judges nations (Jeremiah 18:7). And America is under His judgment, and it going to get much worse (Jeremiah 18).
America is under Divine Judgment
“This is exactly where we are! Things are about to wax worse and worse in this country! Jesus warned us a greater tribulation is coming (Mat 24:21). This world is becoming darker and darker. It will be a challenge to all who put their faith in Christ. Will our faith stand in the midst of severe persecution (1 Peter 1:6-9)? God will try it in the fire, subjecting it to intense heat. The ultimate goal is to purge out all unbelief and impurities. The genuineness of our faith can only be proved in the fire. During hard times of tribulations the lukewarm will drift away, but genuine faith will endure! And the reward will be final salvation (Mat 24:13).” Karen Cochran
The ultimate reason America is being destroyed is not, as some imagine, due to “bad leadership.” No. America is being destroy from within and without due to the rebellion of its people – the sin against God and refusal to repent. Read Jeremiah 18 and Isaiah 1.
Destruction Comes when leaders are allowed to pervert justice!
“The heads (leaders) thereof judge for reward (take bribes), and the priests (religious leaders) thereof teach for hire, and the prophets (religious leaders) thereof divine for money: yet will they lean upon the LORD, and say, Is not the LORD among us? none evil can come upon us. 12 Therefore shall Zion for your sake be plowed as a field, and Jerusalem shall become heaps, and the mountain of the house as the high places of the forest.” Micah 3:11-12
Government Servants and Bribes
“The king by judgment establisheth the land: but he that receiveth gifts (bribes) overthroweth it.” Proverbs 29:4
Inflation Revelation 6
“And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine.” Revelation 6:6
Excessive Inflation is judgment.
“They shall cast their silver in the streets, and their gold shall be removed: their silver and their gold shall not be able to deliver them in the day of the wrath of the LORD: they shall not satisfy their souls, neither fill their bowels: because it is the stumblingblock of their iniquity.” Ezekiel 7:19
Timeline of Impending Doom
Someone is saying “But brother I’ve been listening to dreams and prophecies people are getting about our nation.”
Our hearts can deceive us (Proverbs 28:26; Jeremiah 17:9). We can only be fully “sure” by reading, studying, and knowing the “MORE SURE WORD of prophecy” which is the Holy Scriptures (2 Peter 1:19-21).
“God’s judgment is upon America. We have become Sodom’s sister (Ezekiel 16:46). It’s pride that has rooted itself in the hearts of the American people. And what brings destruction upon nations? Pride! Those who love Him will be looking for a new heaven and a new earth. This world is not our home.
This podcast nailed it biblically! America is defiled, clear to the core, with shocking wickedness. Are we ‘MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH’ ? (Revelation 17:5)? Is the United States the entity ‘having a golden cup’, luring people in by saying “We are the greatest country on earth’ ? (Revelation 17:4) Although we may look appealing because we are supposedly a wealthy country, we are full of abominations, rebellion, sin, pride and full of blasphemy against a holy and righteous God!
We are experiencing His wrath. A nation cannot parade around saying it is ok to change your sex, cut off parts of little children, kill babies up to birth, kill their very own family members, teach pornography to children, mock God, reject the gospel and not expect judgment to fall!” Karen Cochran
THE DISCIPLE OF JESUS SHOULD VIEW HISTORY, INCLUDING WHERE A NATION STANDS THIS DAY, BY “THE MORE SURE WORD OF PROPHECY” WHICH IS THE HOLY SCRIPTURES (Isaiah 46:9-10; 57:15; Romans 15:4; 2 Peter 1:19-21).
Looking at the USA through the lens of Scripture is what is important. We have murdered over 60 million precious innocent babies and called it “choice” but God calls it murder and commands us “Thou not kill.” (Exodus 20:13). The US is over and has been for a long time, as we once knew it. Military men: This isn’t the same USA you and I both signed up to serve. This isn’t the same USA we were born and raised in.
This list of sins in the above passage begins with these 3:
PFA = Pride, Fulness of Bread, and Abundance of idleness.
The Sins of Sodom:
Sins Jerusalem cited for in Ezekiel 16:49-51:
- Pride (arrogance),
- Fulness of Bread (gluttony, hoarding),
- Abundance of Idleness (idle, lazy),
- did not help those in need due to preoccupation with self-worship (not generous in spreading God’s wealth to His people and work)
- haughty
- committed abomination (rampant fornication – just as in the days leading up to the Noahic flood. See Genesis 6)
In the bulleted sins listed above from this revealing Ezekiel 16 passage, did you notice the progression?
Though it culminated in sodomy, yet not one sex sin is even specifically mentioned in this list of Sodom’s sins in Ezekiel 16. Does this not align perfectly with the judgment we see in Romans 1, how “when they knew God, they glorified him not as God” and were unthankful, further enriching themselves while they ignored others?
“Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful (they were ungrateful); but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.” Romans 1:21
A fresh reading of Romans 1 reveals the root sins that preceded the sexual sins which immediately go before divine judgment. See Romans 1:18-32.
The sins that darken the hearts of those who once “knew God” and lead to the ultimate abomination of sodomy/homosexuality are pride, gluttony, idleness, and refusing to be generous givers to believers in need, etc.
Let’s Look Again at the Root, the Gateway Sins of the People of Sodom and Gomorrah:
PFA listed in Ezekiel 16:49-51:
- Pride (arrogance),
- Fulness of Bread (gluttony),
- Abundance of Idleness (idle, lazy),
- Like the fake religionists priest and Levite of Jesus’ Good Samaritan teaching, they did not help those in need due to preoccupation with self-worship (not generous in spreading God’s wealth to His people and work)
“The deceptions are growing stronger and becoming greater in number, leading us to the ultimate deception which is the antichrist! Beware, that if possible even the elect will be deceived (Mat 24:24). See 1 Corinthians 10:12.
“Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall.”
“America’s root sin is pride. They call us the greatest country on earth. We celebrate gay pride. American’s trust in their pride. We have pushed God out of every part of society, yet still believe in our pride, He is blessing us, because after all, we are the greatest country on earth! We are arrogant and boastful in the power of our own might. Trump has recently built a golden alter to himself and I have seen some pastor’s bowing down. We no longer fear God! God’s judgment is falling, from heaven, upon us! He will spare a remnant just as he always promised in the OT! Faithful believer’s who only bow to Him, seeking His face, keeping themselves unspotted from the world, and remaining pure and clean. Those are His true remnant will be given the fountain of life and never thirst again (Rev 21:6).” Karen Cochran
HERE’S WHAT BEING FULFILLED, WHAT’S COMING TO PASS RIGHT NOW
“And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another. 11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. 12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold. 13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. 14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.” Matthew 24:10-14
In the midst of the prophesied great apostasy we are in, Christ’s Remnant are…
- Waxing hotter in their love for God v12
- Enduring to the end v13
- Preaching Christ’s kingdom Gospel to the lost v14
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