ARE THERE SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCES IN THE BIBLE VERSIONS?
“Ye have perverted the words of the living God, of the LORD of hosts our God.” Jeremiah 23:36
Before we begin …. In the same way that non KJB-ers don’t wish to be condemned by some of the harsh, self-righteous devils out there whose religion is KJB, not Christ, even so, those who are not KJB only should grant the same liberty in non-essentials to those who read only the KJB …amen? Romans 14.
As a reader of the King James Bible I have absolutely no condemnation towards many of my friends who read other versions! (knowing those versions are all corrupt) Yet, there is a deep conviction in my own heart based on years of comparison. No one on this planet is going to convince me that removing verses like Matthew 17:21, chopping Romans 8:1 in half, removing “through HIS BLOOD” in Colossians 1:14, and completely neutering 1 John 5:7 is okay ….. See Revelation 22:18-19.
SATAN HAS FOR 6,000 YEARS BEEN IN THE BUSINESS OF TWISTING GOD’S WORDS. REMEMBER HOW THE DEVIL ADDED JUST ONE WORD TO WHAT GOD TOLD ADAM AND THEREBY CAUSED THE VERY FALL OF MANKIND? (GENESIS 2:17; 3:4) HOW ABOUT WHEN SATAN QUOTED SCRIPTURE WHEN TEMPTING JESUS AND TWISTED IT? (MATTHEW 4) TODAY, MOST MEN IN “CHRISTIAN” LEADERSHIP ARE SO FAR BURIED IN THE DARKNESS OF THE PRINCE OF DARKNESS, THAT THEY CAN’T SEE THIS AND MANY OF THEM EVEN DEFEND SATAN’S TWISTED CORRUPTIONS OF GOD’S WORD. GET SHAKEN!
WHEN the LORD’s truth is twisted/changed in any way-YOUR little feelings don’t matter! (Romans 3:4)
NO DIFFERENCE IN THE BIBLE VERSIONS? … Today, many a poor, arrogant soul who claims to be a professor, preacher, pastor, author, and otherwise, is blinded beyond belief. He can’t see Satan standing in his face because he follows mere sinful religious men who have never stopped to prayerfully ponder how that Satan is still twisting and perverting the very words of his archenemy – the LORD. He gullibly relies on his seminarian “training” and the commentaries of mere sinful men instead of getting his own life in God’s Word for himself. He passes these lies on to others. Many a modern religionist refuses to truly lay down his life and seek the face of the LORD and is thereby blinded (2 Corinthians 3:14-18). The veil of darkness covers the eyes of his understanding. Like the willingly blinded Pharisees/false leaders of Christ’s day, some today cling to the traditional thought of their conspiratorial priestcraft and are thereby turned over to “strong delusion” by God Himself for choosing to hate the light of holy truth (Mark 7:6-9; 2 Thessalonians 2:9-12).
Friend, did God make you with reasoning faculties or do you need some other so-called “scholar” or “expert” to tell you simple, self-evident truths? Who sold us that lie?
—–SICKENING FILTH IN YOUR FACE – Virginia Mollencott-NIV Lesbian Translator – WHAT’S IT GOING TO TAKE FRIEND? —– IS IT TIME TO GET THE REAL BIBLE? TRASH, burn, your NIV …. it’s garbage and so are all new versions …. Get a King James Bible beloved if you desire the pure Word of God (Psalms 12:6-7). Gullibility is a curse. HOW could any true disciple of Christ defend this evil filth?
If a person is under a “strong delusion” which God says that He Himself sends to those who do not have the love of His truth, they have “the spirit of error” and will seek to justify such atrocious corruption of the very words of our LORD as we see plainly in the new versions. See 2 Thessalonians 2:9-12; 1 John 4:1-6. These things which are causing the prophesied “falling away” are “after the working of Satan.” (2 Thessalonians 2:3, 9-12) I am disturbed with those who pretend to be operating as watchmen and don’t see the blatant corruptions/errors in the new versions for what they are – diabolical.
Anyone who does good research will find out that the new versions of the Bible are corrupted because they come from Catholic/Vatican manuscripts.
The Bible tells us plainly that God used “holy MEN of God who spoke as they were moved by the Holy Ghost” to give us His written Word (2 Peter 1:20-21). So, God sovereignly kept His Word intact by keeping His promise to preserve it to all generations (Psalms 12:6-7).
The Author of the KJV and the author of the new versions cannot be the same. There are far too many major doctrinal differences for such to be the case. These versions cannot possibly be from the same source. When comparing verses, there is no doubt at all which one is from God and the corrupt per-versions.
*If God’s Word is important, and it is, beyond our comprehension, then this issue of Bible versions is important and not a side issue to be ignored. Jesus informed us that Satan has come “to steal, to kill, and to destroy” and if the enemy has taken away or added to God’s words, we must know about it. All who are not truly submitted to God will be snared by the enemy and ultimately suffer eternal damnation (John 10:10; 2 Thessalonians 2:9-12; James 4:7). We get our knowledge of God through His Word and if in fact His words have been perverted, then we must know about it. “Ye have perverted the words of the living God, of the LORD of hosts our God.” (Jeremiah 23:36)
4 SILENCING VERSES – Here are the 4 verses I compare with people. There is rarely an argument when a King James and a new version are laid open and compared side by side. Watch this:
- Matthew 17:21 removed in new versions because Satan didn’t want God’s people to know how to cast him out
- Romans 8:1 chopped in half because Satan wants believers to believe his ‘once saved always saved’ lie
- Colossians 1:14 “through his BLOOD” removed because the LORD Jesus is Satan’s enemy
- 1 John 5:7 the clearest verse in the Bible on the triune nature of God all but removed because Satan didn’t want God’s people to understand the nature of the Godhead
Never argue this topic, just show them. Write these verses above on a sticky and put them in your Bible. Memorize and cross-reference these references so you can be ready always to give an answer (1 Peter. 3:15).
DOES IT REALLY MATTER?
“I will worship toward thy holy temple, and praise thy name for thy lovingkindness and for thy truth: for thou hast magnified thy word above all thy name.” Psalms 138:2
Did you know He magnified it above His own name? Those who would downplay the importance of this issue, are clearly misled. This is no small issue in the divine economy. We get our knowledge of God by His written Word and if that Word has been altered, it must be uncovered.
Sorry guys but I just can’t live without the 64,000 words the NIV (Nearly Inspired Version) removed. I gotta have Jesus’ instruction on how to overcome unbelief and cast out the archenemy of Christ and our souls – the devil!!!! Matthew 17:21 is removed in new per-versions! Sorry, but I gotta have all of Romans 8:1 and not just half of it! The new per-versions chopped it in half! So, praise God for His preserved Word in the Authorized Version (AV). Is this Bible version issue a big issue? Well, let’s answer that by asking:
- Is overcoming our enemy important? (Matthew 17:21 removed)
- Did God say there are 2 or just 1 condition for being saved eternally? (Romans 8:1 chopped in half!)
- Can anyone be saved without Christ’s very blood? Colossians 1:14 – “through his blood” removed!
- Is the doctrine of the triune nature of the Godhead important? 1 John 5:7 is totally reconstructed, neutered, and made meaningless in new per-versions.
If those cardinal doctrines aren’t important to the Christian faith, then give me a story book, fairy tale version like these new corruptions (NIV, NAS, The Message, etc.). But … if overcoming the enemy (Matthew 17:21), being saved and walking in the Spirit (Romans 8:1), the very blood of Jesus (Colossians 1:14), and the triune nature of God are important (1 John 5:7), then as for me, I will read the real Bible and not some counterfeit the conspiratorial, apostate leadership of today endorse (Ezekiel 22:25-27). I can have zero respect for new versions and the corrupted manuscripts from which Satan had them taken.
In fact, I refuse to compare verses in the different versions while studying because God didn’t make a mistake when He kept His promise in preserving His Word in our language, purifying it seven times (Psalms 12:6-7). No need to compare God’s pure Word with diabolically contaminated per-versions of the Scriptures. Is the divine Person of the Holy Spirit not able to teach Jesus’ true saints? If not, we call the Son of God a liar (John 14:26; 16:13; 1 John 2:20, 27). Did Jesus say that He gave God the Holy Ghost OR the Greek and Hebrew to teach us? Read the verses referenced in the previous sentence for the answer.
“Satan cometh immediately, and taketh away (steals) the word…” Mark 4:15
Jesus told us that Satan is the thief who has come only “to STEAL, and to kill, and to destroy.” (John 10:10)
Who can’t see that there are hoof prints on the removal of Matthew 17:21, the instructions Jesus gave of how to cast out devils? Am I supposed to be so blind, gullible, and ignorant as to believe that Satan, whom Jesus said “cometh…and taketh away…” had nothing to do with that? (Mark 4:15) Haha, nice try, but no thanks.
The most regrettable and astounding thing is that so many who are Christians or say they are, come to the defense of Satan’s masterpieces of deception – the new per-versions!
If God’s Word and having exactly what He wanted us to know is not important then let’s not concern ourselves with this topic. But, if it is, then something must be said!
-See Video of Dr. Frank Logston Below-
If you want true spiritual growth, get the real Word of God and burn the fairy tale new version you have. This is exactly what the LORD instructed me to do over 20 years ago when the corruptions of the new versions I was reading began to surface. I have been and am extremely grateful to our LORD for showing me such. The prophesied great falling away is underway and it has come largely at the hands of watered down, tainted, chopped up, and butchered false “Bible” versions.
Now, if you are a true child of God, I love you and will not argue with you about this. Yet, it is far too important a matter than to just pass over and not speak of.
“And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live (have spiritual life from God) by bread alone, but by every word of God.” Luke 4:4
The term “EVERY WORD of God” appears in God’s Word several times. No man has been granted by God the slightest authority to alter His Word.
Many today have listened to a certain wolf named James White. They merely quote and parrot a mere man and a known doctrinal heretic at that. James White is Satan’s agent of misinformation to try to confirm Satan’s versions and keep duped people reading those per-versions. This is a spiritual matter and cannot be discerned merely by supposed facts (1 Corinthians 2:13-14). Any God-fearing, truly born again believer knows that it’s NOT okay to ever remove even one word from God’s Word (Revelation 22:18-19).
“Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him. 6Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.” Proverbs 30:5-6
All New Versions are Catholic Bibles – they come from the Catholic corrupted and controlled manuscripts (Vaticanus and Sinaiticus).
How many sins did Adam and Eve commit to get them kicked out of God’s presence? One! How many times did Uzzah disobey God by touching the ark and thereby being struck dead? Once! 2 Samuel 6.
How many words are okay to remove or change in God’s Word?
Keeping your false version of the “bible” may come in handy for the purpose of literally opening the Bibles side by side to compare those 4 verses listed in this post. All defense for such diabolical atrocity will be shattered and silenced.
—– WHY DO I UN-APOLOGETICALLY READ THE KING JAMES BIBLE? WHY do I have zero regard or respect for the new versions?
IF YOU READ OR QUOTE FROM ONE OF THE NEW VERSIONS, understand that when you read the quotes below, that these quotes are from the devils who crafted that so-called “bible” you read.
Check this out. Put on your seat belt!
***WOULD YOU read a “bible” by men who said this concerning the Scriptures?:
“I reject the word infallibility of Holy Scriptures overwhelmingly.” (Westcott, The Life and Letters of Brook Foss Westcott, Vol. I, p.207).
“Our Bible as well as our Faith is a mere compromise.” (Westcott, On the Canon of the New Testament, p. vii).
“Evangelicals seem to me perverted. . .There are, I fear, still more serious differences between us on the subject of authority, especially the authority of the Bible.” (Hort, The Life and Letters of Fenton John Anthony Hort, Vol. I, p.400)
“Dr. Wilbur Pickering writes that, Hort did not hold to a high view of inspiration.” (The Identity of the New Testament Text, p.212)
Perhaps this is why both the RV (which Westcott and Hort helped to translate) and the American edition of it, the ASV, translated 2nd Timothy 3:16 as, “Every scripture inspired of God” instead of “All scripture is given by inspiration of God” (KJV).
If you are reading a new version “bible” it came directly from the work of these wicked, unsaved men.
ALL new “bible” versions come from the corrupted manuscripts which were perverted by these two evil men, Wescott and Hort.
See if you can begin to see why so many truth-seeking, Holy Ghost disciples of Jesus reject the new versions….. just take a quick look at those behind these per-versions ….
After seeing these things, namely comparing verses side by side, I can’t understand why any true follower of Christ would defend or wouldn’t take a strong stand against them.
As reported by Brian Sirois:
“H.P. Blavatsky also attended the “Ghostly Guild” meetings with Westcott and Hort, along with Charles Darwin. In her books Isis Unveiled Vol. 1 and 2, and The Secret Doctrine Vol. 1 and 2, Blavatsky says, “we have the Bible in true in Codex Sinaiticus (א) and Codex Vaticanus (B)” and goes on to say ” Westcott and Hort were true scholars that corrected the errors in previous versions.” Blavatsky also said that Westcott was the father of “channeling.”
Now listen to this quote by her,
“Now that the ‘Revised Version’ of the gospels has been published by Westcott and Hort, and the most glaring mistranslations in the old version, the King James, are corrected, one will better understand the words. The text of the English Protestant Bible is in disagreement as usual with the Alexandrian text. That which for nearly 1,500 years was opposed on Christianism of a book of which every word was written under direct supervision of the Holy Ghost; of which not one syllable or comma could be changed without Sacrilege, but now is being retranslated, revised and corrected and clipped of whole verses, and in some cases almost entire chapters. And as soon as the new edition is out, its doctors Westcott and Hort will have us accept it as new revelation of the 19th century. And the King James translators have made such a jumble of it, that no one but an occultist can restore the Bible to its original form.”
(H.P. Blavatsky, on the Bible, Isis Unveiled.)
In 1903, Westcott’s son “Arthur Westcott” published his father’s letters in a two volume book entitled, “Life and Letters of Brooke Foss Westcott.”
Westcott shows his love for ROMAN CATHOLICISM on page 81, when he writes,
“After leaving the monastery we shaped our course to a little oratory which we discovered on the summit of neighbouring hill, and by a little scrambling we reached it. Fortunately we found the door open. It is very small, with one kneeling-place; and behind a screen was a “Pietà” the size of life (i.e. a virgin and dead Christ). The sculpture was painted, and such a group in such a place and at such a time was deeply impressive. I could not help thinking on the fallen grandeur of the Romish Church, on her zeal even in error, on her earnestness and self-devotion, which we might nobler views and a purer end, strive to imitate. Had I been alone I could have knelt there for hours.”
My Identity is in Jesus Christ, not a Bible version and yet, there are grave concerns.
I choose not to condemn others who might still think the new versions are okay. At the same time, here is my personal conviction and the reasons for such a conviction:
Jesus Christ, the Son of God, nail-scarred risen Savior and LORD, is my Master. He told us He would “preserve” His Word to our generation. Upon personal research and comparison of the versions, it is my conviction (not so much a preference), that the Word of God is preserved in the Authorized Version (Psalms 12:6-7). I believe, after many years of comparing verses, that all the versions cannot be from the same ultimate source/author. The removal of the blood of Christ (Col. 1:14), the butchering of the clearest verse in the Bible on the triune nature of God (1 John 5:7), the removal of fasting and prayer (Matt. 17:21), and chopping Romans 8:1 in half, are but a few great concerns. They seem to point to the work of an enemy of God instead of God Himself. That’s not even to mention the 64,000 words removed from the NIV, which along with the other new versions, was translated from the very few corrupted manuscripts. Is “the love of money” still “the root of all evil”? (1 Tim. 6:10) Of course it is and always will be among sinful men and so why should anyone be surprised that evil men would change God’s Word in order to get a slice of the monetary pie on the best selling book in all of history? They have taken upon themselves to change (add to and take away) from God’s Word and brought an eternal curse upon themselves in doing so (Rev. 22:18-19). The plagues include the very lake of fire (Rev. 20:10-15). With no apology to anyone, I personally will have no part with it.
“The counsel of the LORD standeth for ever, the thoughts of his heart to all generations.” Psalms 33:11
Bible Versions Pages that are Very Eye-Opening:
Dr. Ken Matto writes:
“Just as the King James Bible has a rich lineage of uncorrupted transmission through the ages, the modern versions also have a lineage. Their lineage is one of corruption, deletion, omission, addition, rejection and confusion. Modern versions are the fruit of arrogant scholarship which includes homosexuals who worked on the NIV. God never calls unbelievers to preach and neither would He call a sodomite to translate His Word.
If your pastor rejects the pure lineage of the King James Bible and accepts the corrupt translations, then he is a proponent of modern scholarship which exalts the god of education above the God of the Bible. They are seriously deceived and are a danger to spiritual growth.”
My Personal Testimony in a Nutshell
Brothers and sisters, I hope these words find you trusting, truly worshiping, abiding, and fearing the LORD. I also, like many of you, was reading the NIV early on after our LORD saved my wretched soul, but then, one day, accidentally (not quite), I was shown a verse in the NASB. It was Romans 8:1 and it has been cut in half! My jaw hit the ground. I was literally shocked that there could possibly be a misprint in God’s Word. I will never get over that day as long as I live! My eyes began to open right then and I embarked upon an investigation of the differences in the Bible versions and those differences are significant, so be not deceived. “Let no man deceive you by any means.” (2 Thessalonians 2:3)
Our Teacher: Greek and Hebrew or the Holy Spirit?
To a brother that was saying that one must understand the Greek and Hebrew to understand God, we responded with:
God gave / preserved His Word for us in our language just as He promised (Psalms 12:6-7). We don’t even know the English words of Holy Scripture as we should….. Yes we have “the CERTAINTY of the words of truth” in God’s Word so yes we can be sure (Prov. 22:17-21). Jesus says that the divine Person of the Holy Ghost is our Teacher, not the original languages (John 14:26; 16:13-14, etc.).
You don’t need to learn Greek or Hebrew. You don’t need Bible College or (God forbid) seminary. We need more of Jesus who gave us His Word and Holy Spirit (Psalms 119:105). It’s a lie undergirded by pride to say that God’s people need Hebrew or Greek. Sinful men wish to have something over others, so they use this device to bring men under their control by wielding over them this idea that THEY know the original language (2 Peter 2:19). Beware. This is a sham. God gave us His Word in our language and told us that the divine Person of the Holy Ghost is our Teacher, not the original language (John 14:26; 16:13; 1 John 2:20, 27).
Video Below: A Lamp In The Dark: Untold history of Bible ~ Full Film. This exciting video unfolds the fascinating “untold” history of the Bible, revealing critical information often overlooked in modern histories.
Concerning the video below: This is another video warning everyone about the corrupt new “Bible” versions. The evil spirits behind these new “Bibles” go all the way back to corrupt Wescott & Hort manuscripts and the Vatican (Catholic Church). I only talk about the NIV and the ESV and their owners in this video, but all of the new “Bible” versions come from the corrupt Wescott & Hort manuscripts.
The New Versions are Jesuit Bibles
https://youtu.be/aJptorc_GWI
What’s the Big Deal About the KJV?
https://youtu.be/5_EXpUDP-i0
https://youtu.be/M5ifhf5FyAg
Getting on the Same Page
“Sound in the Faith” Titus 1:13; 2:2
“But speak thou the things which become sound doctrine.” Titus 2:1
The definition of words and terms can vary and so in order to be biblically sound, I will continue to transform and conform my language to the exact language that the Scriptures use. I think this to be in alignment with what Paul wrote in 1 Corinthians 1 where he spoke of us all speaking the same thing.
“Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.” 1 Corinthians 1:10
The proliferation of corrupted new versions of the Bible has further routed the people of God, fragmenting the words and language of Holy Scripture and causing nearly no memorization and retention due to every supposedly inspired “Bible” having different language. Satan hit a home run with his new versions. Recently, I quoted several Scriptures from the King James Bible to a pastor. The look on his face told me that he had never heard those words. So, I shared with him the actual Bible references so he would know that those are literal Bible Scriptures. Saints, let’s all get a KJV Bible, the real English Bible, and learn, memorize and speak those words of God. Forget the excuses friend and just get the real Word of God. Never mind Satan’s lying excuse that you can’t understand the KJV. The divine Person of the Holy Spirit is your Teacher, so what is it that HE can’t teach you?
Virgin Birth / Deity of Jesus Christ Attacked
“The NIV drops ‘the only begotten Son’ completely from John 1:14 and 1:18.” Ian Paisley, My Plea for the Old Sword, p. 82
No one can be saved outside of believing that Jesus was born of a virgin having been “begotten of the Father.” (John 1:14) Jesus was “the ONLY begotten Son” which makes Him unique in all history and the only fulfillment of all the Messianic prophecies
“Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a VIRGIN shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.” Isaiah 7:14
We were foretold that the Messiah would be born of a “virgin.” Yet, amazingly, the NIV takes away the word “virgin” in Isaiah 7:14.
The new versions are clearly from the enemy of all souls. They are an open and brazen attack on the Son of God as they deny Him in a myriad of ways.
“Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? (THE virgin-born Messiah) He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. 23Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.” 1 John 2:22-23)
“Knowing the attack wielded in the early centuries of Christianity against the essential diety and true, proper and impeccable humanity of our Lord, it can be rightfully concluded that, out of satanic hatred and hellish malice against the truth itself, the intention of the corrupter of God’s Holy Word was striking at the central truth of the Word of Salvation and tacitly denying what he dared not open exclude, that Jesus Christ was ‘come in the flesh.’ The saint of God rightly discerns here the ‘spirit of antichrist.’” Ian Paisley, My Plea for the Old Sword, p. 80
DIETY DENIAL SHOCKER!
WAS God or Immanuel, “manifest in the flesh” OR was He not? The new version denial of the incarnation of Jesus Christ is a brazen attack against the Father and His Christ. This is seen in the NIV and other new versions is seen also is 1 Timothy 3:16. Watch this:
KJV 1 Timothy 3:16
“And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: GOD WAS MANIFEST IN THE FLESH, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.”
NIV 1 Timothy 3:16
“Beyond all question, the mystery from which true godliness springs is great: He appeared in the flesh, was vindicated by the Spirit, was seen by angels, was preached among the nations, was believed on in the world, was taken up in glory.”
Just WHO is “He” that “appeared in the flesh”? Was “He” Buddha? Was “He” Mohammed”? Are you beginning to see the point?
It doesn’t seem to me that any truly born again person, after seeing the many differences in the versions, namely actual verses compared, would do anything but get a KJV Bible and begin exposing the new versions for the diabolical weapons of deception that they are. Compare: Matthew 17:21; Romans 8:1; Colossians 1:14; 1 John 5:7.
More Vitals …
It’s only the agent of Satan who is under the dominion of “the spirit of antichrist,” who would dare cast doubt on God’s Word. It was Satan himself who did this first when he told the woman, “hath God said?” (Genesis 3:4) In doing this he cast doubt on what the LORD had stated. Those who dare do such today reveal plainly who they are serving.
Here is some vital information that reveals shocking differences between the King James Bible and the new Bible versions. Have the central and foundational doctrines that make up the historic Christian faith been altered which were divinely transmitted through “holy men of God” and “once delivered to the saints”? (2 Pet. 1:20-21; Jude 3-4) If so, could this be a diabolical plot to weaken the Church, making way for the great and foretold falling away in the final days before Christ returns? (2 Thess. 2:3; Rev. 12:12) To those who have not previously investigated this subject, these questions themselves may sound radical, but please read on and become informed before you draw conclusion. WARNING: You may be shocked by the things revealed on this page. With the exception of the first listing (Verse Comparison), the remainder of the information is from other ministries (we may not agree with these other ministries on all points).
“Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him. Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.” Proverbs 30:5-6
If God’s Word has been changed, do you think it’s right to know and talk about it? If not, what do we seek to hide? Are there people claiming to be Christians who are covering for the devil – hiding his destructive lies from the people? If God’s very words have been in any way altered, so has His doctrine and thus we discover the greatest evil ever perpetrated upon the world. Satan and sin are so deeply rooted in the hearts of some men, that some will actually argue to justify this unspeakable atrocity of the changing of God’s Word and go to any length to justify such unadulterated evil! (2 Cor. 11:12-15)
“For ye have perverted the words of the living God, of the LORD of hosts our God.” Jeremiah 23:36
Beloved, these people are wolves in sheep’s clothing. They claim to be servants of the LORD while they seek to justify and defend the gross, brazen and unabashed perversion of His very words. Absurd hypocrisy! “There is no fear of God before their eyes.” (Rom. 3:18) Listen, No one can be saved without the precious blood of Christ and the removal of the blood of Jesus even one time is enough to forever condemn these new versions as satanic counterfeits (see Heb. 9:22; 1 Pet. 1:18-19; Col. 1:14). It would be appropriate to question the salvation of anyone who would seek to justify such or crassly overlook it.
If you are personally convicted concerning the corruption of the new versions and are brought by the Holy Spirit to a place of wanting to destroy your copies of these counterfeits of God’s true Word, please read Acts 19:19 to see how those who repented had a bonfire to burn everything associated with the evil one.
Did you realize that 64,000 words have been deleted/removed from the NIV? Who did Jesus tell us is in the business of perverting and taking away God’s words?
“Satan cometh immediately, and TAKETH AWAY the word.” Mark 4:15
SEVERE WARNING: “For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book (includes the lake of fire for eternity): And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.” Revelation 22:18-19
https://youtu.be/wZBeIr1wKGY
The “Easter” Question:
“Since Tyndale invented the English word Passover from Pasach, I’m quite sure he understood it’s usage. Passover is NOT correct there because it clearly states it was the days of Unleavened Bread, which is after Passover. Despite Jewish tradition of later combining the two, they ARE separate and were at that time. Therefore, it could NOT have been Passover which is why Tyndale who invented the Word placed Easter, after Astarte, the Queen of Heaven, which is the pagan feast the Romans intended to bring him out after. Easter is NOT Christian, never has been and never will be. Tyndale and the King James translators followed his example and it is most certainly correct.” Derek Lee
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***The new per-versions of the Bible use the term “self-controlled” which is misleading, contradictory, and heretical. The KJV word is “temperance” which is a fruit only produced by the divine Person of the Holy Ghost in the abiding disciple (Galatians 5:22-23). Think about “SELF control” which gives the idea that we control ourselves instead of being under the control of the LORD Himself.
***From Joseph Zanti: “The worst translation of them all in my opinion? The Message. It’s 1 man’s translation… a commentary, not a bible. A quote from the author himself: “When I’m in a congregation where somebody uses [The Message] in the Scripture reading, it makes me a little uneasy. I would never recommend it be used as saying, “Hear the Word of God from The Message.” But it surprises me how many do.” | The Message “Bible” Exposed
“I have been reading the KJV and really seem to like it better. Boy was I missing out all these years! It really seems to have the words God originally wanted!” Ivanca O.
After just a few yrs after that satanic masterpiece (the NIV) was created, it had already been changed over 4,000 times! The KJV has only been altered in the way of minor grammatical changes as the language changes, not the words. Gail Riplinger’s book titled In Awe of Thy Word is a masterpiece and so is New Age Bible Versions, another of her books. AV Publications. One will ever so deeply appreciate the AV if they read any of her books.
Why Did the 1611 KJV Include the Apocrypha?
Dialogue/Feedback:
Message Received:
“What about the changes in the King James?”
Reply:
BEWARE of the devils who defend those satanic masterpiece new per-versions of the Bible. Note how they are grasping for every straw they can get their hands on. For example some of them refer to the merely grammatical changes that were made in the King James Bible due only to bridging the gap in languages. They vainly attempt to make that an issue to defend one of Satan’s masterpiece new version while the new versions have been taken from corrupted manuscripts to begin with, and altered in content along the way as if God changed.
The King James Bible didn’t undergo content changes which is what the new versions have done. For example, the NIV had over 4,000 changes made in it in the first few years it was out …. huge difference.
“I stopped reading the NIV about 3 years ago, I have grown so much as a believer since reading the KJV (the true word of God) but until it is shown for what it is (a counterfeit) by standing it up next to the KJV, it is hard to know a counterfeit on it’s own without comparison. The more I looked into it, the more I see the force behind the NIV….Satan. God bless you brother, the more brothers and sisters get to know the difference the better.” Tim
Message Received:
“Most of the “biblical scholar” liberals claim that some of the verses in the KJB were added later and weren’t in the original manuscripts. I’m curious as to how they know that, but even more curious as to why they’d want to remove the blood from the Word.” Jimmy
Reply:
Jimmy, I have heard people say that too …. man, that is as amateur as it gets in my opinion ….. can you imagine the amount of work it would take to ADD that many words (tens of thousands) to over 5,300 manuscripts? These devils don’t know what to lie about next.
Robert Cruz notes: The NIV and the New World Translation are almost IDENTICAL. That alone should tell us all we need to know… www.kjv-truth-ministries.org
“Westcott and Hort’s beliefs are readily found in a two-volume series on each that includes their personal correspondence to one another and others entitled Life and Letters… They were apostates and yet we entrust them with providing us the written Word of God. We’re so stupid.” Timothy A.
“Despite me telling my mom the truth about all this info on those other bible versions, she still doesnt care? I dont understand how some choose to be willingly ignorant, and not even care? :(” Ross C.
“How can we spread the truth if we are not certain we have the truth? The modern scholar is not confident that the Bible he holds, that he may have helped translate, is certainly true. This is painfully obvious in the skeptical footnotes.” Paul Y.
Message Received:
“PRAISE YOU LORD! Thank you for leading me to the KING JAMES BIBLE…..!!” Cheryl B. (Bible Versions)
Comment:
This is an encouraging testimony. We have seen (that we know of) literally hundreds of Christians who get rid of their catholic new versions and get the English Bible God ordained and intended for His body who speak English. All new versions come from catholic corrupted, catholic controlled manuscripts. Personally, I have no respect for any new version that doesn’t come from the Majority Text – the 5,364 manuscripts that agree. All new versions come from the 2 perverted manuscripts which are controlled by the center for all divination and paganism in the earth, the roman catholic church.
Question:
Were there no true disciples before the 1611 KJV?
Reply:
Hi. Well, you missed the point friend. Of course there were true disciples BEFORE the KJV. The point is, that the KJV is God’s pure Word, faithfully translated into OUR LANGUAGE from His preserved manuscripts. ALL other English versions ALL come from the 2 perverted, catholic manuscripts – vaticanus and sinaiticus. All new versions are catholic bibles. This includes the NKJV which is also a counterfeit. NKJV / New King James Version
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***FROM Brian Daniels: Why isn’t the word “sodomite” in the NIV?
The answer is because there were homosexuals (what the Bible terms “Sodomites” after the city of Sodom which God destroyed because of it’s woeful wickedness) on the NIV translating committee. One such sodomite was Virginia Mollenkott. Another sodomite was the Chairman of the NIV Old Testament Committee! The name of the sodomite? Dr. Marten H. Woudstra (he’s dead now). The following quote was ascribed to Dr. Woudstra, Chairman of the NIV Old Testament Committee:
“There is nothing in the Old Testament that corresponds to homosexuality as we understand it today”
Is it any wonder why the word “sodomite” is not in the NIV? It doesn’t require too much thinking. Look below and see what they replaced the word “sodomite” with:
THE AUTHORIZED KING JAMES VERSION
Deuteronomy 23:17- There shall be no whore of the daughters of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel.
THE NIV
Deuteronomy 23:17- No Israelite man or woman is to become a shrine prostitute.
THE AUTHORIZED KING JAMES VERSION
1 Kings 14:24- And there were also sodomites in the land: and they did according to all the abominations of the nations which the LORD cast out before the children of Israel.
THE NIV
1 Kings 14:24- There were even male shrine prostitutes in the land; the people engaged in all the detestable practices of the nations the LORD had driven out before the Israelites.
THE AUTHORIZED KING JAMES VERSION
1 Kings 15:12- And he took away the sodomites out of the land, and removed all the idols that his fathers had made.
THE NIV
1 Kings 15:12- He expelled the male shrine prostitutes from the land and got rid of all the idols his fathers had made.
THE AUTHORIZED KING JAMES VERSION
1 Kings 22:46- And the remnant of the sodomites, which remained in the days of his father Asa, he took out of the land.
THE NIV
1 Kings 22:46- He rid the land of the rest of the male shrine prostitutes who remained there even after the reign of his father Asa.
THE AUTHORIZED KING JAMES VERSION
2 Kings 23:7- And he brake down the houses of the sodomites, that were by the house of the LORD, where the women wove hangings for the grove.
THE NIV
2 Kings 23:7- He also tore down the quarters of the male shrine prostitutes, which were in the temple of the LORD and where women did weaving for Asherah.
Why is this important? A couple of reasons.
Ever heard of “Sodomy Laws”? It was illegal in the U.S. to be a sodomite (now people call ’em homosexuals); hence SODOMY laws. In a generation or two, people, including Christians who read the NIV, won’t know where the word sodomite came from.
This change from sodomite to “shrine prostitute” tells us that homosexuality isn’t bad, there are just some homosexuals doing bad things. This sentiment has been expressed by a number of pro-sodomite individuals who claim Christ. They are deceiving themselves for the scripture says the effeminate and abusers of themselves with mankind won’t inherit the kingdom of heaven.
This NIV revelation makes me want to use the word “sodomite” all the time! I plan to use it in place of the nicer sounding “homosexual”. The sodomites were criminals that were destroyed by God for their wicked practices. Men with men working that which is unseemly–receiving in themselves the recompence of their error which was meet. Read more about sodomites Mollenkott and Woudstra here.
Mmmm, interesting stuff here on the sodomites. Yet some professing Christian will write me quoting NIV scholars and complaining that the KJV is full of errors! We know what happens when the blind lead the blind–both shall fall into the ditch!” Brian Daniels
Comparison Chart
KJV |
NIV |
| Matthew 17:21“Howbeit this kind goeth not out but by prayer and fasting.”(Here Jesus gives His disciples of the whole New Testament era how to cast out the enemy when they find him tormenting someone. This is a prevalent doctrine found in the NT Scriptures – Matt. 8:16; 10:1-8; Mark 16:17, etc. The word “devil” appears 57 times in the Bible which underscores that the LORD and His people have a sworn enemy. The removal of this verse was to blind God’s people from the existence and threat of the their enemy.) | Matthew 17:21 WHOLE VERSE REMOVED(Satan didn’t want the saints of Christ to know what it takes to cast him out!) |
| Romans 8:1“There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.” (2 conditions given here) | Romans 8:1“Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.”(half of this verse was chopped. The enemy didn’t want believers to know that they must walk in the Spirit and not the sins of the flesh after they are in Christ, or they will lose out in the end) |
| Colossians 1:14“In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins.” | Colossians 1:14“in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins.”(“through his blood” REMOVED. God’s arch enemy attacks Him here by having the very redeeming blood of Christ removed here.) |
| 1 John 5:7“For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.”(This is the clearest verse in Holy Writ of the triune nature of God) | 1 John 5:7“For there are three that testify:”(This important verse is all but removed in the NIV.) |
NASB EXPOSED by Original Editor
—- From the NASV to the KJV By Frank Logsdon … In the 1950s Logsdon was invited by his businessman friend Franklin Dewey Lockman to prepare a feasibility study which led to the production of the New American Standard Version (NASV). He also helped interview some of the men who served as translators for this version. He wrote the Foreword which appears in the NASV.
As we see in the following testimony, in the later years of his life Logsdon publicly renounced his association with the modern versions and stood unhesitatingly for the King James Bible. In a letter dated June 9, 1977, Logsdon wrote to Cecil Carter of Prince George, British Columbia, “When questions began to reach me [pertaining to the NASV], at first I was quite offended. However, in attempting to answer, I began to sense that something was not right about the NASV. Upon investigation, I wrote my very dear friend, Mr. Lockman, explaining that I was forced to renounce all attachment to the NASV. … I can aver that the project was produced by thoroughly sincere men who had the best of intentions. The product, however, is grievous to my heart and helps to complicate matters in these already troublous times.” http://www.av1611.org/kjv/logsdon.html
Apostasy
“The Certainty of the Words of Truth” [podcast]
Nicholas, the Apostate Deceiver
Historians say that Nicholas (Acts 6:5), a deacon in the first century church, backslid, and led his followers to believe that living in sin would not affect one’s relationship with Christ. The term Nicolaitans is said to come from those who followed Nicholas. Nico-laitans is a compound Greek word. Nico means “to conquer,” and laitans means “the laity.” Satan used Nicholas to conquer his followers through the lie of lawlessness. The evil spirit of Nicholas lives on today through many lawless leaders who operate in the church world in this late hour.
Nicholas taught free love. He and his followers taught that the deeds of believers could not affect their relationship with God. This is antinomianism, which means lawlessness. The Bible clearly refutes such a lie as we will witness in our walk through the Holy Scriptures.
“Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.” 2 Timothy 2:19
“They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.” Titus 1:16
The Bible states here, that those who “profess that they know God” and yet “deny him…in works,” are “abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.”
By this lie of lawlessness, the enemy of souls conquered the people.
“But this thou hast, that thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitans (means “conquer the laity”), which I also hate…So hast thou also them that hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitans, which thing I hate.” Revelation 2:6, 15
Here is some modern terminology for this age-old doctrine:
- Once Saved, Always Saved
- Eternal security (unconditional)
- Calvinism, perseverance of the saints doctrine
In Revelation 2, Jesus Christ tells us that He “hates” two things — “the deeds” and “doctrine of the Nicolaitans.” The Son of God despises the doctrine that teaches that the deeds of men have no effect upon their relationship with Him.
The Scriptures continuously reveal the divine hatred for the acceptance, and even doctrinal authorization, for living in the sins which the LORD tells us violate His holiness, reveal a wicked heart, and will prevent one from entering into the kingdom of God (1 Corinthians 6:9-10; Galatians 5:19-21; Revelation 21:8, 27).
The word “lasciviousness” appears six times in the Bible and means “lack of restraint (from sinning); license for sin; licentiousness.”
To underscore the utter, divine hatred against this lie of lawlessness, it should be noted that this is the only place in Scripture where Jesus Christ, Himself, states that He hates something.
Though they may vary in packaging, these are all kin to the same lawless “ye shall not surely die” lie, which is the lie of the ages.
“Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the Lord your God which I command you.” Deuteronomy 4:2
“For ye have perverted the words of the living God, of the Lord of hosts our God.” Jeremiah 23:36b
“Thus saith the Lord; Stand in the court of the Lord’s house, and speak unto all the cities of Judah, which come to worship in the Lord’s house, all the words that I command thee to speak unto them; diminish not a word.” Jeremiah 26:2
“For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: 19 and if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.” Revelation 22:18-19
“Hath God said” ?
Always remember that whenever you have someone casting doubt on God’s Word, words, you are dealing with a person who is under Satan’s control, is a rejecter of the LORD, and therefore His truth, and is a child of the devil. Every time.
Notice what we see Satan doing in the Garden of Eden just before he changed, altered, added one word to God’s words:
“Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?” Genesis 3:1
Then, in verse 4 we read how Satan added just one three-letter word which changed the meaning of what God said and changed world history.
“And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:” Genesis 3:4
“But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.” Genesis 2:17
“Thou shalt surely die” from God was then changed by Satan to “Ye shall NOT surely die.”
This is the first time we see what’s known as the “eternal security” lie. It’s also known as “once saved always saved” or “perseverance of the saints” heresy. Any person teaching or believeing this lie has partnered with Satan himself.
Knowing “the certainty of the words of truth”
“Bow down thine ear, and hear the words of the wise, and apply thine heart unto my knowledge.
18 For it is a pleasant thing if thou keep them within thee; they shall withal be fitted in thy lips.
19 That thy trust may be in the Lord, I have made known to thee this day, even to thee.
20 Have not I written to thee excellent things in counsels and knowledge,
21 that I might make thee know the certainty of the words of truth; that thou mightest answer the words of truth to them that send unto thee? Proverbs 22:17-21
“that I might make thee know the certainty of the words of truth” – and how can we “know the certainty of the words of truth” if we aren’t even reading them – if we are not reading the preserved Word of God but rather a cheap counterfeit?
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Apostasy
8 Classes of Sinners Guaranteed to Spend Eternity in the Lake of Fire [podcast]
8 Classes of Sinners Guaranteed to Spend Eternity in Hell
“But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.” Revelation 21:8
“The second death”
[which is the second death] The second death is the lake of fire, or the second separation from God in hell (Rev_2:11; Rev_20:14; Rev_21:8).
Of Revelation 21:8, Adam Clarke writes the following:
Revelation 21:8
But the fearful – Δειλοις· Those who, for fear of losing life or their property, either refused to receive the Christian religion, though convinced of its truth and importance; or, having received it, in times of persecution fell away, not being willing to risk their lives.
And unbelieving – Those who resist against full evidence. And sinners, και ἁμαρτωλοις, is added here by about thirty excellent MSS., and is found in the Syrian, Arabic, some of the Slavonic, and in Andreas and Arethas. On this evidence Griesbach has admitted it into the text.
The abominable – Εβδελυγμενοις· Those who are polluted with unnatural lust. (sodomites, lesbians Romans 1)
And murderers – Φονευσι· Those who take away the life of man for any cause but the murder of another, and those who hate a brother in their heart (.
And whoremongers – Πορνοις· Adulterers, fornicators, whores, prostitutes, and rakes of every description.
Sorcerers – Φαρμακοις· Persons who, by drugs, philtres, fumigations, etc., pretend to produce supernatural effects, chiefly by spiritual agency.
Idolaters – Ειδωλολατραις· Those who offer any kind of worship or religious reverence to any thing but God. All image worshippers are idolaters in every sense of the word.
And all liars – Και πασι τοις ψευδεσι· Every one who speaks contrary to the truth when he knows the truth, and even he who speaks the truth with the intention to deceive; i.e., to persuade a person that a thing is different from what it really is, by telling only a part of the truth, or suppressing some circumstance which would have led the hearer to a different end to the true conclusion. All these shall have their portion, το μερος, their share, what belongs to them, their right, in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone. This is the second death, from which there is no recovery.
“21:8 But not all are overcomers. Some are cowardly, afraid to confess Christ; unbelieving, unwilling to trust the sinner’s Savior; sinners, all those who remain in their sins, whether guilty of the gross iniquities listed here or not; abominable, given over to disgusting immorality; murderers, malicious and savage killers; sexually immoral, practicing fornication and other forms of sexual sins; sorcerers, those who traffic with evil spirits; idolaters, insulting God by worshiping images; and all liars, compulsive deceivers. These will be assigned to the lake of fire as their final destiny.” Believer’s Bible Commentary
“And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. … 14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. 15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.” Revelation 20:10, 14-15
One source notes the following:
“Brimstone and fire” refers to the fiery imagery of divine judgment and eternal punishment found in the Bible. It symbolizes God’s wrath, often describing the fate of sinners in hell, and is a phrase used in religious sermons and literature. “Brimstone,” an old word for sulfur, is a key component of this imagery, evoking a smell and heat associated with inescapable, fiery destruction.
Biblical origins
Old Testament:
The phrase originates in the King James translation of the Old Testament, used to describe God’s destruction of enemies. A key example is the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah.
New Testament:
The imagery is used to describe eternal damnation, a common theme in both the Old and New Testaments. In the book of Revelation, for example, it describes those who worship the beast being tormented in a lake of fire and brimstone.
Etymology:
The phrase is a calque of the Biblical Hebrew and Ancient Greek words for “sulfur and fire”.
Geological evidence:
Archaeological and geological evidence of sulfur deposits and charred formations in areas like the Dead Sea region have been noted as consistent with biblical descriptions of fire and sulfur-related events.”
“But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.” Matthew 8:12
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The Purpose of Elders in Christ’s Body [podcast]
There is no more important work transpiring in the earth today than the work of the Gospel of Jesus Christ (Matthew 9:35-38; 28:18-20; Ephesians 4:11-15; 1 Peter 5:1-6, etc.).
“Now the God of peace, that brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, that great shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the everlasting covenant, 21 Make you perfect in every good work to do his will, working in you that which is wellpleasing in his sight, through Jesus Christ; to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.” Hebrews 13:20-21
In short, the authentic under-shepherd ordained of Jesus Himself (John 15:16), will give up his life in this fleeting world for the sheep of Christ – just as the Great Shepherd of the sheep did on the cross. Such a divinely called-out man, will teach only God’s pure Word and watch for the souls of the LORD’s people (Hebrews 13:7, 17). He will take up the cross – live the crucified life – and therefore ministry will not be about them but rather about Jesus and His beloved sheep for whom He shed His blood and is soon returning (Philippians 3:17-21).
Also in Hebrews 13 …. The true elder of Christ will, according to Hebrews 13, do two things:
- Speak the pure Word of God to you and get you into it:
“Remember them which have the rule over you, who have spoken unto you the word of God: whose faith follow, considering the end of their conversation (their way of life).” Hebrews 13:7
2. Will in the fear of God pray for and “watch for your soul.”
“Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.” Hebrews 13:17
In review, just WHAT are the earmark fruits of true under-shepherds as opposed to the many wolves among us?
- True under shepherds relentlessly teach God’s Word – “who have spoken unto you the word of God.” (Hebrews 13:7)
- They are there for you! – “they watch for your souls.” (Hebrews 13:7)
IF they aren’t preaching God’s pure Word to you, fearing God, not you…. and watching for your eternal soul, they are wolves in sheep’s clothing. Repent and run to Jesus beloved.
Let me add that if they are using a fake “bible” instead of the King James Bible, that should be a clue to the darkness they walk in (Matthew 7:16, 20).
Elders are ordained of God and yet never to take His place nor to negate our own personal responsibility to seek God daily for ourselves. Yet, we do not need a preacher. Why? – because we each have a Bible. Read it. We don’t need a preacher to tell us what the Bible says! Read it for yourself, learning of the LORD yourself. Today is your day to take personal responsibility to seek God for yourself! Stop depending on a preacher or preachers. Devour God’s Word daily. Jesus taught personal responsibility and the essential nature of it when He said “Take heed to yourselves” (Luke 21:34-36) …… Paul instructed Timothy to “Study” the Word (2 Timothy 2:15).
Today we have all around us church-goers who are not possessed with a heart after God, do not diligently study and read and live out Christ’s Word. This lukewarm, world-loving fruit clearly reveals the prophesied priesthood of wolves (1 Chronicles 16:11; Psalms 27:4, 8; Matthew 24:11; Acts 13:22; 2 Timothy 3:13; 1 John 4:1, etc.). Until a pastor has provoke you to get into God’s Word for yourself, to seeking His holy face daily in prayer, he has failed. If has has diligently, biblically sought to do these essentials, and people have refused God’s Word, refused to seek His holy face continually, the blood is off of his hands (Ezekiel 3:18-20).
“When I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; and thou givest him not warning, nor speakest to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life; the same wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand. 19 Yet if thou warn the wicked, and he turn not from his wickedness, nor from his wicked way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul. 20 Again, When a righteous man doth turn from his righteousness, and commit iniquity, and I lay a stumblingblock before him, he shall die: because thou hast not given him warning, he shall die in his sin, and his righteousness which he hath done shall not be remembered; but his blood will I require at thine hand.” Ezekiel 3:18-20
When you check the fruit of a fellowship, check, discern if the individual saints are vibrant in Christ, diligently seeking His holy face, in His Word, living a life of prayer, denying self, taking up the cross daily, and following Jesus. This sounds like what we see of the earliest saints in the book of Acts, right? Boom. Remember how Peter preached and 8,000 were saved and how the Berean believers put Paul’s teaching to the Scriptural test? (Acts 2-4; 17:10-11, etc.).
Sadly, usually you see a bunch of people who are proud to be a member of a church with none of the biblical fruit list above.
The apostle Paul kept a close watch on those he oversaw.
“For this cause, when I could no longer forbear, I sent to know your faith, lest by some means the tempter have tempted you, and our labour be in vain.” 1 Thessalonians 3:5
Having a physical “church” building makes no mere man, no supposed elder, an official representative of Heaven. Feeding the sheep of Christ with His pure Word and equipping them “for the work of the ministry” is the mark of a true under-shepherd of Christ (John 21:15-17; Ephesians 4:11-12, etc.). Discern. Beware. Inspect the fruit. Jesus nor any of His holy apostles collected a penny to build a building called “church.” No, they went to the people – to serve them instead of having the people come to them.
Let’s test that…. How many people do you personally know who are good church members, Sunday morning church attenders, and ALSO true, daily disciples whom God is using everywhere they go? Think about that…. How many true disciples of Jesus do you know who are involved in a Sunday morning church program? If you personally know even one true disciple, that’s a miracle and in spite of his attendance at the Sunday morning circus called “church.”
Unlike Christ’s apostle Paul, most in leadership today foster in their prey a dependence on THEM and their church business instead of prayerfully, biblically exhorting people to depend on Jesus (1 Corinthians 1:29-2:5).
Like Christ’s apostle Paul, the true elder labors relentlessly to see you grounded in Christ – not in him or his ministry or church, but in CHRIST! Listen closely:
“As ye have therefore received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk ye in him: 7 Rooted and built up in him, and stablished in the faith, as ye have been taught, abounding therein with thanksgiving.” Colossians 2:6-7
It simply doesn’t matter what else he’s doing, if any minister is not prayerfully, biblically, perpetually rooting and grounding you in Christ, he’s a fraud. Run.
Like Jesus and His holy apostle Paul, part of grounding you ever more deeper in Christ, is warning you to “beware” of the “many false prophets.” (Matthew 24:11)
“Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. 9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. 10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:” Colossians 2:8-10
SO, he’s not exhorting and admonishing you to seek and know the LORD in an ever deepening fashion? He’s not equipping, maturing you “for the work of the ministry” and yet you still consider him one of the LORD’s under-shepherds? He’s not getting YOU into the Word (2 Timothy 2:15) for yourself? That’s a false leader who is entertaining the goats instead of feeding and equipping the saints! Run! (See Ephesians 4:11-15; 1 Peter 5:1-6, etc.)
False leaders divert the attention, the heart affections, the resources, and the energy of God’s people away from Christ and simple obedience to His Great Commission mandate. YOU are personally responsible! Waste is rampant! If you support, “bid God speed” (2 John 7-11) to a false leader, false ministry, then you will perish with them!
The divine purpose for elders is not to dominate nor entertain the LORD’s sheep but rather to help their joy in Christ! Get to know this verse saints:
“Not for that we have dominion over your faith, but are helpers of your joy: for by faith ye stand.” 2 Corinthians 1:24
There is the citing of elders in the Word and their divine purpose – to humbly serve God by helping His sheep grow in the knowledge and grace of Christ (Ephesians 4:11-15; 1 Peter 5:1-6).
Christ’s apostle Paul desired the “perfection” (maturity in Christ) of the people of God (Ephesians 4:11-15).
“For we are glad, when we are weak, and ye are strong: and this also we wish, even your perfection.” 2 Corinthians 13:9
Like Apollos, Elders among God’s people must remain teachable to God’s Word and simply and only teach and preach his word (Proverbs 9:9; Acts 18:26). Elders true to the LORD act on his behalf and never out of a personal agenda for self gain (2 Corinthians 3:5; 4:5, etc.). They live the crucified life (Galatians 2:20).
We are to humble ourselves like Apollos did and learn the way of our God more perfectly from each other, via God’s Word – as Apollos learned it more fully from Aquila and Priscilla (Acts 18:24-28).
Beloved Apollos was a very effective, anointed communicator of God’s Word and yet, was in need of maturing, of being perfected. So, God sent to him an elder and his wife, Aquila and Priscilla. Apollos humbly received the LORD’s elders and His grace to grow in Christ:
“And a certain Jew named Apollos, born at Alexandria, an eloquent man, and mighty in the scriptures, came to Ephesus. 25 This man was instructed in the way of the Lord; and being fervent in the spirit, he spake and taught diligently the things of the Lord, knowing only the baptism of John. 26 And he began to speak boldly in the synagogue: whom when Aquila and Priscilla had heard, they took him unto them, and expounded unto him the way of God more perfectly.” Acts 18:24-26
The vast majority of “churches” that meet in “church buildings” are simply and merely conducting “church services” where they entertain their prey. They are not equipping the saints for the work of the ministry and therefore discerned as being counterfeit (Ephesians 4:11-13). If they were, there would be salty disciples in their midst who go forth to minister Christ’s kingdom blessings wherever they go. Not even a trace of this transpiring in the apostate modern church world. Run. Run. Run.
The Purpose of Kingdom Elders:
“And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; 12 For the perfecting (equipping, maturing) of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:” Ephesians 4:11-12
Philip Lye writes: “Paul says in Ephesians 4, that he gave some to be apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors and teachers. He expressly says these people are given to mature the saints, to equip them for their ministry and growth in Jesus Christ. Jesus tells us in Matthew 24 that many false prophets and messiahs will arise deceiving many. They are simply functions that God has given and not titles which the proud use to strut about like a peacock. Most of these people that I have met (and I have seen a lot of famous ones) are false, proud and arrogant and not servants of the the Lord Jesus Christ. I have seen humble genuine ones who move mightily in truth, calling people to repentance and right relationship with Jesus and a demonstration of genuine miracles and wonders. They are to be genuine servants to God’s people.”
VIEW this following verse from Solomon’s day in light of our calling and work till Christ returns:
“Now all the work of Solomon was prepared unto the day of the foundation of the house of the LORD, and until it was finished. So the house of the LORD was perfected.” 2 Chronicles 8:16
Let’s read a larger portion of this important passage in Ephesians 4. God fearing under-shepherds must prayerfully labor for and be intent upon seeing God’s people grow in the grace of Christ to the full stature of maturity He has ordained!
“And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; 12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: 13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ: 14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive; 15 But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:” Ephesians 4:11-15
The Error of Using Titles in the Modern Church World
God sovereignly and exclusively ordained MEN to feed, lead, and equip His saints (Ephesians 4:8-11). Women are called to and seen doing many ministry functions in the New Testament but never as a leader in a position specifically designated in Scripture for men.
Repent. The American “church” is a catastrophe of spineless moral-coward Ahabs who’ve allowed, suffered women to lead, and the fall out is incalculable (Revelation 2:20-24).
GOD’s men must never allow women to lead where they (men) are called to lead (1 Timothy 2:12; 3:2; Revelation 2:20-24).
To put yourself under the ministry of a woman who is acting as an elder among God’s people, is to defy Christ, and to agree with Christ’s arch enemy and his Jezebels and to bring severe destruction on the people of God (1 Timothy 2:12; 3:2; Revelation 2:20-24).
JUST because a woman can run her mouth and even genuinely have a gift of the Spirit DOES NOT mean she’s an elder in the body of Christ – which is divinely reserved non-negotiably for men, male elders (1 Timothy 2:11-12; 3:2). | Beware of Scripture-Twisting Jezebels
We must humbly confess before our LORD and God that we have nothing and are nothing without Him!
“I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.” John 15:5
God can use us in spite of having a seminary or Bible college background…. If we will truly denounce it, lay it all down, and truly submit to Him – just like Paul did (Philippians 3). Otherwise we will join the epidemic of false prophets who build their own kingdoms in this fleeting life and spend eternity in hell (2 Peter 2:1-3). Paul counted his “higher education” as “dung” to know and serve Christ (Philippians 3).
BIBLICALLY SPEAKING, BY DEFINITION, ELDERS ARE NOT SEMINARIANS (UNLESS THEY’VE DENOUNCED SUCH) BUT RATHER PROVEN MEN OF GOD WHO HAVE WALKED WITH CHRIST FOR SOME TIME AND ARE SEASONED IN DOCTRINE AND GODLY CHARACTER AND ABLE TO HELP ASSIST OTHER BELIEVERS GROW IN GRACE (Philippians 3).
In part, we can be transformed in our thinking/perspective of what leaders are seen to be in the apostate modern church vs the biblical definition of an elder which is a humble servant with sound doctrine and a godly life (1 Timothy 3; 2 Timothy 3:10; Titus 1-2, etc.).
Christ’s kingdom ordination is not like the ordinations of many denominations….. To ordain seems to mean to recognize the work of GOD in a man’s life and to set him forth into ministry as by the leading of the Spirit of God.
“Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.” John 15:16
ORDAIN
G5087
τίθημι
tithēmi
tith’-ay-mee
A prolonged form of a primary word θέω theō (which is used only as an alternate in certain tenses); to place (in the widest application, literally and figuratively; properly in a passive or horizontal posture, and thus different from G2476, which properly denotes an upright and active position, while G2749 is properly reflexive and utterly prostrate): – + advise, appoint, bow, commit, conceive, give, X kneel down, lay (aside, down, up), make, ordain, purpose, put, set (forth), settle, sink down.
Total KJV occurrences: 96
“Now there were in the church that was at Antioch certain prophets and teachers; as Barnabas, and Simeon that was called Niger, and Lucius of Cyrene, and Manaen, which had been brought up with Herod the tetrarch, and Saul. 2 As they ministered to the Lord, and fasted, the Holy Ghost said, Separate me Barnabas and Saul for the work whereunto I have called them. 3 And when they had fasted and prayed, and laid their hands on them, they sent them away.” Acts 13:1-3
Denominations of mere men set their elders forth to do THEIR bidding, to perpetuate their own cause and existence, to build their false church businesse$. God fearing assemblies of the saints simply recognize Christ’s work in a man and prayerfully send him forth to do GOD’s work. They worship and exalt Christ whole heartedly!
MINISTRY is about feeding sheep, not entertaining goats (John 21:15-17). So, when you see a “minister” entertaining, you know he himself is a goat (1 Corinthians 1:29-2:5).
What True Elders Teach
“For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord; and ourselves your servants for Jesus’ sake.” 2 Corinthians 4:5
THERE is nothing good in us except Christ. We are not featured but JESUS is. “We preach CHRIST crucified” (1 Cor 1:23). All our righteousnesses are as filthy rags and HE is the One and only righteous Redeemer whom we communicate to others (1 Cor 9:16; Rom 7:18 etc.).
Jesus’ true disciples are crucified vessels who preach with His authority, unlike the lame leaders we have today (Matthew 7:28-29). True Gospel preaching rocks the world of those who hear it – it never coddles people in their sin. That’s the work of wolves! Beware!
Godly Elders Teach God’s People to Discern
“And they shall teach my people the difference between the holy and profane, and cause them to discern between the unclean and the clean.” Ezekiel 44:23
Why don’t some leaders teach discernment?
“Anyone that profits off of you being blind, will never teach you or inspire you to see.” unknown
Any man in leadership who doesn’t warn you of false prophets as did Christ and His apostles, is a wolf who does not want you to see who he truly is.
God’s people are to continue to learn to discern – to test, to weigh all things against Holy Scripture. Ungodly elders have the “I said it so it’s true” notion. Or the “We’ve always taught that” or “That’s what we believe” philosophy. Not. What saith the Scriptures is what every true follower of Jesus asks, as he searches God’s Word to ascertain truth. Every student of Christ should become extremely familiar with Acts 17:10-11.
QUESTION RECEIVED:
“I am curious as to how one man is considered the other’s elder? Do they attend the same church gathering thus, he is a church elder or is it through willful submission of the younger as an understudy or simply due to the fact that one man is older?”
REPLY:
Great question brother. Elder, biblically seems to mean older and more seasoned in God’s Word, having walked with the LORD longer. Two views come to mind: 1. The organic body of Christ, the kingdom relationships we have, where there appear men in our lives who are seasoned and there’s an automatic elder/young relationship (that’s how it is here)… and 2. Where a person attends a church group and they have their elder in a more organized fashion as you mentioned…. that help?
Nothing brings definition to this like God’s Word as you know…. and notice how it begins with “The elders which are AMONG you”….
“The elders which are among you I exhort, who am also an elder, and a witness of the sufferings of Christ, and also a partaker of the glory that shall be revealed: 2 Feed the flock of God which is among you, taking the oversight thereof, not by constraint, but willingly; not for filthy lucre, but of a ready mind; 3 Neither as being lords over God’s heritage, but being ensamples to the flock. 4 And when the chief Shepherd shall appear, ye shall receive a crown of glory that fadeth not away. 5 Likewise, ye younger, submit yourselves unto the elder. Yea, all of you be subject one to another, and be clothed with humility: for God resisteth the proud, and giveth grace to the humble. 6 Humble yourselves therefore under the mighty hand of God, that he may exalt you in due time:” 1 Peter 5:1-6
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