It’s past time for all who name the name of Jesus to depart from the apostasy of fake “bibles” and to read and study the real Bible, the King James Bible. it doesn’t matter that your lame fake “pastor” uses a corrupt “bible.”
It’s a pretty easy decision to use the King James Bible when we see the difference, the absolute attack on God by the enemy who removed HIS words (Revelation 22:18-19).
WHERE O WHERE is the conviction? Wow. EXPLAIN why this is not a big deal. God says it’s a big deal. Read Revelation 22:18-19 and repent. Please explain why the BLOOD of Jesus is removed from your “bible” in Colossian 1:14. Also, please explain to us all why Romans 8:1 is chopped in half in that fairy tale “bible” you read? 4 Verse Comparison
ROMANS 8:1 is chopped in half in the fake news “bibles.” Did you know that?
If you say that GOD’S Word doesn’t matter, He’s calling you to repent now and get saved (Revelation 22:18-19).
Example: To say the new “bibles” are good is to say that the BLOOD of Jesus doesn’t matter to you. If you read a new “bible” instead of the King James Bible, go see if “through his BLOOD” is removed from Colossians 1:14 in that atrocity. No, it’s removed. Is that okay with you? It’s no okay with the LORD. Do you claim to be washed in the blood of Jesus without which no man can be saved? (Hebrews 9:22)
The words of JESUS were removed from Matthew 17:21 in the fake “bibles.” That bother you?
RARE! After being shown how the new “bibles” are Satan’s, this young man responded this way….
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“I see your point, but I truly believe God is well able to convey Truth in any language or translation ♥️”
REPLY:
Thanks to God that you are teachable…. brother… that is RARE. Okay, we must make not excuse for the works of satan beloved brother. Can’t tell you how blessed it is to see how teachable you are brother!!!! amen Jesus!!! …. this Bible issue is NOT a preference or legalistic issue at all…it’s a holy conviction based on simple comparison. Please avail yourself to the rich contents on the ministry site on this topic…. jaw dropping…. Please avail yourself to the rich contents on the ministry site on this topic…. jaw dropping…. Bible Versions Issue
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“Which version of the Bible did the early church read?”
REPLY:
Did they have it in written form as we do? No. Do we? Yes. Deal with it (Psalms 12:6-7). HOW does the early church saints dismiss satan’s corruptions of God’s Word? Which version(s) of the Bible do you read and are you defending? Unless you have something to hide, please reveal.
MESSAGE RECEIVED ON POST EXPOSING THE ENEMY’S FALSE “BIBLES”:
“Christians fighting against fellow Christians. Not good. Let’s pray for each other. After all, God still has the final judgment.”
REPLY:
Yes GOD is the JUDGE and He has spoken and His arch enemy has corrupted that which HE spoke – the new “bibles.” Telling the truth is mercy not withholding it. Exposing the enemy of the LORD is not “fighting with fellow Christians” but rather helping them…. You have many things to learn friend.
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“I also have the Interlinear Hebrew & Greek Bible which gives a word-for-word exact translation.” Anna
REPLY:
Yes amen. I have it also and have taken these things straight to it and personally found that the King James Bible is always correct. I use it as a reference. Comparing confirmed that the KJB is a direct translation as opposed to the “dynamic equivalence” used by Satan’s scholars who added their own thoughts into the false “bibles.”
Let me go on record to declare this self-evident truth: YOU have some serious heart issues with God if you can see how Satan has butchered God’s words and still justify reading those garbage per-version fake “bibles.” It’s not just the NIV either but rather ALL the new versions that are corrupt. In this post we’re going to take a look at just 4 verses, comparing them side-by-side.
Most modern “preachers” use Satan’s “bibles” instead of the King James Bible and YET WE WONDER why the modern church world is completely apostate?????
It’s interesting how some are proud of “using many versions” of the Bible. Well God told us He isn’t confused – so that must mean they are confused! (1 Corinthians 14:33) He preserved His Word for us in our language (Psalms 12:6-7). Is that every English version? Can’t be. Shocking 4 Verse KJV Comparison
EVER notice that most of those men who defend the new versions won’t man-up and tell you which per-version they read, even when asked? SMH
SO MANY frauds, amateurs, claiming to be the authority on the Bible. Very few of them care to learn a few things. They insist they know it all when they are completely ignorant of the truth about God’s Word and how He kept His promise to preserve it to us in our language (Psalms 12:6-7). This reveals some serious depth of darkness these people are in. If they are casting doubt on God’s Word, they are under the power of SATAN who’s the first one to cast doubt on God’s Word (Genesis 3:1). And, we “know them by their FRUIT.” (Matthew 7:16, 20) True repentance needed.
OKAY, I KNOW SOME MAY BE SPURNED … MY PERSONAL INTENT IS FOR YOUR SPIRITUAL WELL BEING WITH CHRIST …. THEREFORE THE DESIRE TO HELP YOU SEE WHAT THE TRUE, PRESERVED WORD OF GOD FOR THE ENGLISH SPEAKING PEOPLES OF THE WORLD IS (PS 12:6-7)
IF you think that after the Garden of Eden Satan ceased changing the Word of God, I’ve got some land to sell you off the coast of Florida (Genesis 2:17; 3:4; Jeremiah 23:36; Mark 4:15, etc.). – “for ye have perverted the words of the living God, of the LORD of hosts our God.” (Jeremiah 23:36) Think: new “bible” versions!
SO, YOU BELIEVE SATAN DOESN’T WORK (HIS EVIL) ANY LONGER? WOW, DIDN’T THE BIBLE GUARANTEE US THAT SATAN WOULD WORK EVEN HARDER IN THE FINAL DAYS? 2 TIMOTHY 3:13 AND REVELATION 12:12???
YOU ARE GOING TO SENSE A LARGE AND BLESSED DIFFERENCE WHEN YOU BEGIN STUDYING THE KING JAMES BIBLE EVERY MORNING ….. CLEAN AND PURE …. ONLY THE CLEAN, CLEAR, PURE WORD OF GOD CAN CLEAN AND PURIFY OUR HEARTS!!!! MATT. 5:8 ANYONE?
LET’S GET BACK TO THE KING JAMES BIBLE SAINTS. THE DIFFERENCE IN YOUR OWN LIFE WILL BE AMAZING. IT’S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A PLASTIC KNIFE AND A SWORD! GOD IS GOOD AND THE DEVIL IS A LIAR!
WHAT is the “foundations” for our learning about God? His words, right? Are we so blind as to think Satan, who from the Garden has tampered with and cast doubt upon God’s Word would not be involved in using wolves to change God’s Word today? That is the height of gullibility and ignorance friend.
As if there’s any Gospel at all outside of Christ!
AS IF THERE’S ANY GOSPEL WITHOUT CHRIST!!!! Note how this satanic “bible” removes Christ from His own Word – Romans 1:16 “For I am not ashamed of the gospel…” (NIV) Now let’s read Romans 1:16 in the King James Bible: “For I am not ashamed of the gospel OF CHRIST: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.” (Romans 1:16) The LORD Jesus is most likely removed from many if not all the modern corruption “bibles” because they all come from the same few corrupted manuscripts.
“If the foundations be destroyed, what can the righteous do?” Psalms 11:3
WHEN you desire to be healthy in your body, the first think you do is switch from poisonous soft drinks to good water, right? When you choose to be a man of truth, the first thing you should do is switch to the King James Bible from the devil’s counterfeit fake “bibles.”
The Never Ending Scam of New Bible Versions
Every month or two there’s yet another $cam version of the Bible that comes out from some person or committee that pretends and puts themselves up as having authority. Could all these versions possibly be divinely inspired and yet all different?
It’s real simple: We have the preserved Word of God in the Authorized, the King James Bible. All other English Bibles are unnecessary and in most cases if not all, diabolical counterfeits. Bible Versions: Are there Significant Doctrinal Differences?
HARDBALL: To a man boasting of going back to the Hebrew and Greek, a man who refused to tell me what “bible” version he reads when asked repeatedly…. who was downing the KJB and calling me a hypocrite, the reply was as follows:
God gave us His Word in our language as He promised to do specifically – Psalms 12:6-7. Anyone can reference the Hebrew and Greek. You are no hero. You still didn’t answer my question…. those sissy “bibles” have made a sissy out of you haven’t they?
Please explain why the BLOOD of Jesus is removed from your “bible” in Colossian 1:14. Also, please explain to us all why Romans 8:1 is chopped in half in that fairy tale “bible” you read?
TODAY we hear many in leadership cast doubt on God’s preserved Word by saying things like “A better translation would have been,” etc. In other words, they know better than the most profound scholars ever assembled by King James as God ordained him to do. When you do the research, you will find that at 5-8 years of age, many of those scholars knew numerous languages and were prolific in Hebrew / Greek. Yet we have lightweight so-called theologians today foolishly pretending to be superior in knowledge to those substantially expert Hebrew and Greek scholars whom the LORD raised up to fulfill the promise He gave us in Psalms 12:6-7 to preserve His Word to the English speaking peoples of the world. If this weren’t so pitiful it would be laughable. These pseudo scholars today do not speak or write in Hebrew or Greek and yet pretend to be wiser than those who knew those languages on a firsthand basis.
HOW can you possibly say you believe ANYTHING God has said if you don’t believe we actually have His preserved, perfect Word today? Impossible. Such a person is a snake who has chosen to reject Christ while posing as a “scholar” offering “higher criticism” when he’s/she’s really a sham-cloaked rebel. Hell awaits. Such a person picks and chooses what part(s) of God’s Word he/she wants to embrace and what he/she wants to reject …. just like evil Jehoiakim who used a penknife to cut out and burn what parts of God’s Word convicted him! (Jeremiah 36) Repent. Read Hebrews 3-4.
“HIGHER CRITICISM” OR “TEXTUAL CRITICISM” ARE SIMPLY TERMS USED TO JUSTIFY THE UTTER AND ARROGANT REBELLION BEHIND THE QUESTIONING AND ALTERING OF GOD’S PRESERVED WORD WHICH WE HAVE IN THE KING JAMES BIBLE (PSALMS 12:6-7). THIS “CONFUSION” IS NOT OF GOD BUT IS CLEARLY THE WORK OF SATAN. “FOR GOD IS NOT THE AUTHOR OF CONFUSION, BUT OF PEACE, AS IN ALL CHURCHES OF THE SAINTS.” (1 CORINTHIANS 14:33) THESE ARE CHILDREN OF SATAN WHO ARE SELF-SERVING, SELF-APPOINTED “SCHOLARS” AND WE KNOW THIS BECAUSE SATAN IS THE ONE WHO BEGAN QUESTIONING GOD’S WORD AND ADDING TO IT (GENESIS 2:17; 3:4, 1). CASTING DOUBT ON GOD’S WORD IS WHAT THESE WOLVES WHO WEAR SHEEP’S CLOTHING ARE DOING TODAY WHICH CLEARLY PROVES THEIR FATHER IS THE DEVIL HIMSELF (JOHN 8:44).
I have no doubt that sin and an evil spirit are behind the questioning of God’s Word (Genesis 3:1)…..
Recently had a lengthy discussion with a pastor who uses the new versions. He listed about 8-10 of them that he uses. Whew, saints, it becomes so obvious how the church world is in such disarray when we see what these seminarians have been led to believe and what they’ve allowed instead of getting into God’s Word honestly and diligently.
NEVER let some corruptED seminarian dupe override the common sense God gave you!
This particular man was teachable. He agreed to allow me to drop ship him a copy of Gail Riplinger’s book New Age Bible Versions …. And also I referenced and gave him the Bible Versions Issue category on the ministry site to peer into on this important, intriguing issue that faces us…. Anyone can usually get a cheap copy on ebay or amazon or straight from the publisher at AVpublications.com
SO FAR …. Not many of those who have cast doubt on God’s Word bother to humble themselves and repent of believing lies. They forged ahead in their dark ignorance, swearing they had the truth when it’s more than obviously erroneous.
Rev 22:17 And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.
Rev 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
Rev 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“Satan’s. Children also quote Scripture just like there father the Devil.”
Yes Satan’s children twist Scripture and misuse it just like the devil did when tempting Jesus and just like the creators of the new “bibles” did to create their corruptions of God’s real Word. In Matthew 4 we see JESUS quoting Scripture. SO, is the Son of God of the devil?
God commands His people to “PREACH the word.” 2 Tim 4:2
REPLY:
Totally false. WHO gave them divine permission to “expound” on what God stated using their “private interpretation”? Not God and they are going to receive the plagues of the book of Revelation which includes the lake of fire (Rev 22:18-19). It’s called “private interpretation” which frauds perpetrate – “Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools.” (Romans 1:22)
Jesus is the English rendering of the Hebrew Jeshua. You are part of a cult. NAME CULT WARNING: When people get off on this “Yahuah,” “Yah,” etc. stuff and say the English word JESUS is illegitimate, that’s where I cut em off. Delusional. They allowed themselves to be deceived in this matter by foolish judaizing devils who don’t know the LORD and have rejected their own Messiah. Dare you argue with the reality that believers have cast out devils in the name of JESUS for centuries???? Done it myself, many times! You think Satan knows who JESUS is???? Repent devil. Name Cult Warning
Personally I never never use the word “old” when referring to God’s Word because the KJB is the Word of God to the English speaking peoples and as such is ever living and ever relevant (1 Pet 1:23; Mark 13:31).
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“I read the NIV version and I’m holy spirit filled and fire filled I think that’s up to God to decide not you my brother Love you.”
REPLY:
Hello. Did God decide to remove 64,000 words from that garbage “bible” OR did Jesus promise that those who did so will receive the plagues of the book of Revelation – including the lake of fire. Read Revelation 22:18-19.
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“You think those errors in the NIV and new versions make the Bible a “poisoned stream?” I think God uses those versions just fine. For example, I used the NIV for many years and grew tremendously, becoming an ordained missionary, youth Pastor, elder, deacon, teacher, Pastor, etc. Using NIV did not give me a bad theology or make me think less of His blood. Sadly I find this arguing for KJV-only or otherwise more divisive and a turn off to everyone, than beneficial.
REPLY:
What did Jesus mean other than what He stated in Revelation 22:18-19?
Pro 30:5 Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.
Pro 30:6 Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“Obviously God always uses the imperfect and He can use any translation. The Bible points us to the real Word of God, Jesus. Holy Spirit came to lead us to Him as well as Holy Spirit fulfills Jesus’s promise to teach and guide us into Truth. God certainly uses the books of the Bible to speak to us and teach/guide us but too many people settle for idolizing the Bible as the true word of God when it should be leading us into deeper relationship with God himself, not just reading books and one-way prayers which aren’t even conversations.”
REPLY:
Did the LORD not magnify His Word above even His name?
Psa 138:2 I will worship toward thy holy temple, and praise thy name for thy lovingkindness and for thy truth: for thou hast magnified thy word above all thy name.
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“The Lord did not ‘give’ us the KJV…… The Textus Receptus gave us the KJV, financed by the King of England.”
REPLY:
Ah okay so the Textus Receptus just created itself, right? Not. Ah so ministry that involves money is evil? That would make Jesus evil because He had a treasurer which means there was money given to Him and His disciples. You are what’s called a Bible “agnostic.” You have denied that God is active in history. But the Bible tells us “the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will.” Daniel 4:32
“You are deceived! Jesus told us all translations are His Word!” Sheila
REPLY:
WHERE did the Jesus revealed in Scripture tell us such????
No instead the Jesus of the Bible warned us “Beware of the scribes.” (Mark 12:38) Jesus warned us that “SATAN cometh immediately, and taketh away the word.” (Mark 4:15)
If what you claim is true that would mean that Jesus okays the “Queen James Bible,” the “Ebonics Bible,” and even worse, the demonic NIV “bible.”
Jesus says that HIS words cannot be changed (Psalms 199:89; Mark 13:31) and if someone changes them, it’s not HIS Word and they will be irrevocably sent to the lake of fire which is one of the plagues of the book of Revelation (Revelation 22:18-19).
- His very words be removed, completely omitted in Matthew 17:21?
- That Romans 8:1 be chopped in half?
- That His very blood be removed from Colossians 1:14?
- That the clearest revelation of the Godhead be butchered in 1 John 5:7?
If you can crassly overlook these blasphemous atrocities, sounds like you need to get the real Jesus (2 Corinthians 11:2-5). That seems to be root issue here.
DIRTY “BIBLES” – ARE you reading one of the devil’s dirty “bibles”? Or are you reading God’s Word, the King James Bible? If “through is BLOOD” is removed from Colossians 1:14, you know you’ve been tricked. Go look. 4 Verse KJV Comparison
The devil himself is behind all lies Jesus taught and is the first and present one behind the questioning of and perversion of God’s words (Genesis 2:17; 3:1, 4).
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“Everyone saying “you need to read the originals in their original language to truly understand the Bible”… come on guys! You really think that God expects everyone to learn 4-5 different languages just so they can “properly understand what He is trying to tell us”? Please… King James Bible is the perfect, infallible written word of God to English speaking people (which doesn’t mean that Jesus spoke 17th century English)” Ty
QUESTION:
“I was reading someone’s reply on something and he was saying that King James was gay and he is the reason the Bible can be read in English. Just wandering if that statement was true.”
REPLY:
That is pure heresy by Satan’s agents to discredit God’s preserved Word. There is no evidence at all that James was a sodomite. Jesus told us that the devil is a liar from the beginning! John 8:44
TAIL CHASER:
Recently, I confronted a local “pastor” who had been sowing discord among the brethren. This local “pastor” attacked me as he brought up the Bible version issue. In this heated conversation this man told me he couldn’t understand King James English and said “you have to go back to/know the Hebrew and Greek.” So let me get this straight: You can’t understand English but you can understand Hebrew and Greek? SMH …. I asked him if he read or spoke Hebrew and Greek and demanded that he speak those languages to me right then and and there. Of course he was dumbfounded and didn’t know what to say. … I asked him if he claimed to be washed in the blood of Jesus and if so, does it not bother him that in those phony, sissy new versions he’s defending that in Colossians 1:14 the BLOOD of Jesus is removed. I asked him if that bothered him and told him that if not he has no fear of God at all. Let’s get the real Bible saints, the King James Bible, and trashed, perhaps burn Satan’s counterfeits.
TESTIMONY:
Tammy Harris writes: “I threw away my NIV and was in much confusion about this because I had it for so long and it had my notes written in it and high lighted scripture. I read that it wasn’t biblically sound and also that the publishers of it also published the satanic bible. I know that evil spirits can attach themselves to material objects and I was very Leary about the publishers.”
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“As far as the versions, I study many versions now asking for discernment from the Holy Spirit as I study…..”
REPLY:
Okay, so you actually believe that the HOLY Spirit of God has anything to do with Satan’s attack on God’s Word, the new versions? How does God reveal Himself to us? (John 5:39; Luke 24:44-45) Does He speak to us through His pure Word, which He promised and did preserve to us in our language as He promised (Ps 12:6-7) or through His enemy’s corrupted version of His (God’s) Word? You don’t actually believe the Holy Spirit of God would ever lead someone to read Satan’s corruptions of God’s Word do you? …. “God is not the author of confusion.” (1 Corinthians 14:33)
Since “God is not the author of confusion” (1 Corinthians 14:33), why would you wish to dabble is Satan’s counterfeit “bibles”? Does your conscience not bother you that you are actually reading and approving of the work of Christ’s enemy? Is there no conviction in you to study God’s pure Word, the King James Bible? (Psalms 12:6-7)
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“Let God be true, and all men liars… I worship God not KJV.”
REPLY:
Smokescreen …. So David, it really doesn’t matter what’s between the pages of the cover that says and claims “Holy Bible” right? If you truly fear and worship God, why does it not concern you that all who add to or take away from His Word are going to the lake of fire? Rev 22:18-19 ….. If you love, honor and worship the LORD, why does it not bother you that His arch enemy, Satan himself, has butchered His Word? Where O where is the conviction? If God is to believed, what is that based on? Is it base on HIS own Word or on the enemy’s corruption, counterfeit of His Word?
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“Wait a minute: You apparently have not read the new version of the Bible. It was co-written by Winnie the Pooh, Mickey Mouse, Mr. Rogers, and group of 30 or so millennials. Their research helped them to discover that sin is no longer sin. Great news for people who are determined to call themselves Christians but yet do what they want to do. Roughly 2000 years ago, Paul warned a young Pastor named Timothy that some day ‘Christians’ would refuse SOUND doctrine and turn away from it to fables and that they would find/pursue teachers who would tell them what THEY WANT to hear (2 Timothy 4:2-4). You can add to that a few more of His prophesies regarding people having a form of GODLINESS, etc. Yet they are turning from truth and doing what is right in their own eyes. THAT IS THE PROPHETIC Word of warning from our Maker!” Christopher Wright
QUESTION RECEIVED:
“Don’t you accept as an error in translation when the KJV used the word easter?”
REPLY:
Hi. No, because the writer was simply marking a time of the year the reader could use as a reference. Acts 12:4. It’s interesting that those who defend the completely corrupted new versions are grasping at straws to attempt to make something evil out of things like this when there is a very simple explanation. Here are some posts on this issue …
QUESTION RECEIVED:
“Doesn’t it cause unnecessary division to discuss Bible versions?”
REPLY:
- In the most basic sense, what is the Bible a collection of? The words of God, right?
- If those words have been altered/changed, does that not make it obvious that the message has changed?
- What is the eternal consequence for any and all who participate with the altering of God’s words? That is, the adding to and/or taking away of those words (tampering in any way with them)? Revelation 22:18-19
- Can you show from the BIBLE that the BIBLE isn’t important?
- Didn’t God tell us that He has magnified/elevated His words even above His own name? Psalms 138:2
- If God’s own words aren’t important, why did He attach such a severe penalty to punish all those who change it? Revelation 22:18-19
- Do you know the topic of the longest chapter in all the Bible? Psalms 119 – The written Word of God is the topic.
- Do you understand that the apostle Peter taught us that the written Word of God is even more divinely authoritative than the actual audible voice of God speaking from Heaven? 2 Peter 2:16-21
- What are we divinely instructed to judge, discern, and weigh all philosophies, notions, statements, doctrines, etc., against? What is the holy standard? Acts 17:11; 2 Timothy 3:16-17
- Jesus and His holy apostles and prophets didn’t cease teaching the truth because it caused division. That division is the dividing of those who are “of God” and those who are “not of God.” (John 8:47) These divisions are ordained of God and a blessing. (1 Corinthians 11:19) God gave all men free will and forces no one to love and obey Him. Jesus told us that the truth/His Word falls upon 4 different type heart soils (Luke 8:11-15). It is not mere man’s place to worry about that, only to observe it as he told us this was the case. So, cease from leaning to your own understand and simply “preach the word” in God’s love and wisdom (Ephesians 4:15). Listen to Jesus’ apostle and not only does he instruct us to “preach the word” but also to do it always and without respect to who receives or rejects it:
“Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine. 3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; 4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.” 2 Timothy 4:2-4
QUESTION RECEIVED:
“What is someone is no educated enough to read the King James Bible?”
REPLY:
Paul Hanrahan writes: “If somebody has problems with the words in the KJV then look them up in a dictionary to find the true meaning. Then you will get an education too. That’s what I do.”
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“For people like you and I, yes we can read the King James Bible, but we cannot be ignorant and assume everybody is well read like we are. Jesus did not speak English.”
REPLY:
Isn’t it ignorance to assume Jesus made excuses for people who read Arabic (which was the language He spoke) … like the excuses you are now making for those who speak English? God gave all humans a brain and the ability to LEARN. So you are saying that God gave us His Word in our language and yet we can’t learn to read it? Wow! You just indicted the LORD Almighty who created us in His image with the full ability and faculties to read and learn and increase intelligence.
“Give instruction to a wise man, and he will be yet wiser: teach a just man, and he will INCREASE IN LEARNING.” Proverbs 9:9
The word “learn” appears 32 time in God’s Word and yet you say people can’t learn?
I believe there’s an evil spirit behind this groundless foolishness. Satan wants people to remain dumb. God says “My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge.” (Hosea 4:6) You are personally contributing to the ignorance and destruction of God’s people.
QUESTION RECEIVED:
“How do I defend the truth concerning Bible versions? I want to help others see?”
REPLY:
IF SOMEONE CHALLENGES YOU or foolishly disdains you for being a truth-seeking, discerning, born again believer who sees Satan’s counterfeits for what they are, first realize that such a person is in darkness. Then, simply ask them to explain ….
- WHY is Matthew 17:21 missing from the new versions,
- WHY is Romans 8:1 chopped in half in the new versions,
- WHY is the very BLOOD of JESUS removed from Colossians 1:14, and
- WHY is the clearest verse in the Bible destroyed , corrupted, and neutered in 1 John 5:7???
Things will get real silent at that point. I’ve seen it happened many, many times! No need to argue with anyone. Just literally lay the versions side-by-side!
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“I use the King James Bible, yet I like to use other versions to help newer believers understand better.”
REPLY:
SWITCHING between Bible versions to get a better understanding? Not me friend. it is my personal conviction to give no credence whatsoever to the works of our LORD’s arch enemy …. and especially never to lead someone else to do so by referring to satanic versions …. Now beloved saints, I am not trying to make this a salvation issue and yet, when God’s very Word has been tampered with in any fashion, THAT is a major issue – with eternal consequences, right? Revelation 22:18-19 anyone? Bible Versions Issue
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“Todd, I met a Young gentlemen at a Barnes and Noble bookstore, who was asking the Bookstore Employee, what the best selection of Bible is and when I heard him ask which Bible I quickly and humbly said the KING JAMES Bible (KJB).
He and I met, we spoke and I gave him my story how I found the Lord Jesus Christ and how it changed my Life. He gave me a brief summary of his Life. He is Catholic but said that he felt trapped in uncertainty regarding his relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ.
I told him and let him know that the KJB was the most accurate and ONLY way to go.
I gave him my info, and I referred him to you as well and I’m feeling blessed that he was interested in the Born Again ministry, Praise God.
His name is Tony and am in prayer that he seeks the full truth, and indeed finds a newly restored relationship with our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
Welcome to Jesus Tony Gomez and God bless you my brother in Christ. AMEN!” William
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“I first started to learn about this 3 years ago, when the man I minister with, Chaplain John of John McTernan’s Insights when he told me to look carefully at Luke 4:18 in the KJV …then look in the NASB and NIV … Where they have completely REMOVED the part referring to “Jesus sent me to heal the Brokenhearted!” From that verse! Why? The enemy does NOT WANT YOU TO EVEN KNOW YOUR HEART IS BROKEN! Grrrrrrrrrrr…………” Danielle Stedman
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“But the Bible says to have self control.”
REPLY:
“Self-control” OR “temperance”? The King James Bible never once uses the term “SELF-control” which is a contradiction of Christ’s cross teachings. Meditate upon this. If you can control SELF, there is no need for Christ and the cross He commanded us to take up! The King James Bible uses the word “temperance” in the 9 dimensions of the fruit of the Holy Spirit (Galatians 5:22-23). The KJB got it right as usual ….. think about this in light of the cross truth ….. We don’t control our self, we crucify it and in falling into Christ are saved from it. As is the case from Genesis to Revelation, the King James Bible got it right because God was in it, fulfilling His promise to preserve His Word to us (Psalms 12:6-7).
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“Of course you realize language changes. The word “gay” used to mean “happy.” See James 2:3.”
REPLY:
What does that have to do with the words the Almighty chose to construct His Word with? Changing words means changing the message …. inevitably. The LORD has used “holy men of God” to pen and preserve His Word as He promised He would do – “Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. 21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.” (2 Peter 1:20-21)
Because Satan’s children now use gay as applied to their sin, what does that change? Ridiculous, lame argument. Did this sin cause the righteous not to know what gay really means?
The Bible tells us that we have the Scriptures because “HOLY men of God spoke as they were moved by the holy Ghost” and this is obviously the difference between the Authorized Version and the ones you trust. … Here you go, the NIV (Nearly/Not Inspired Version) will work for you …. even when 64,000 words were removed ….
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. 21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.” 2 Peter 1:20-21 Those who translated the Authorized Version from Hebrew and Greek were clearly “holy men,” set apart and commission by the LORD to do such. Check the utter perversion of the new versions and the corrupters of the manuscripts from which the new versions were taken. Then we can talk. It’s a circus of homosexual adulterers and satanists.
God’s Word is Inspired and Preserved
“The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. 7 Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.” Psalms 12:6-7
It’s always amusing to see people make blanket statements they have no proof for. I believe you need to repent Susie. You are working as an insidious agent of the evil one …. whether you realize it or not …. to cast doubt on God’s very Word, just as SATAN did in the Garden and still does today through his agents …. when he said “Hath God said?” …. in other words the devil is the one behind the casting of doubt on whether or not God kept His Word of promise to keep His Word preserved to us or not (Ps 12:6-7) Ridiculous King James Bible Corrections
Message Received:
“When we say that our Bible is perfect we are talking about the Bible in it’s original form when it came off of the authors’ pen.”
Reply:
“Bill – What proof do you have the King James Bible is not perfect? … Also, so you are saying God lied and did not preserve His Word to us? – “The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. 7 Thou shalt keep them, O Lord, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.” Ps 12:6-7 … and if He did and He sure did ….. those contradicting versions are obviously not of Him who is NOT “the author of confusion.” 1 Cor 14:33
This is is okay? Wow!!!! Compare for yourself:
KJB – 1 John 5:7-8, “For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.”
NIV – 1 John 5:7-8, “For there are three that testify: the Spirit, the water and the blood; and the three are in agreement.”
I stand on both feet and say there is NO respect in my heart for the NIV or any new versions. If you don’t agree, that’s fine …. but please allow me the personal conviction and liberty.
Check out this simple manuscript chart … This chart will compare the difference between the Minority Text (which are based upon mainly 2 corrupted New Testament manuscripts) and the Majority Text (which are based upon over 5,000 New Testament manuscripts). Here it is.
A Common Defense of the Corrupted New Versions of the Bible:
Bill, your reasoning, taken to it’s logical conclusion, would mean that if there was a glass of water sitting before you, and it only had a very small amount of contaminant in it, that that would be okay with you due to the most part of that glass of water being good clean water. …. Of doctrine, the Bible says: “A LITTLE leaven leaveneth (ruins) the whole lump.” Galatians 5:9
“Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.6 Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.” Proverbs 30:5-6
Wolves Warning
—- THINK about it: The same wolves we have who fill pulpits and books today with their pabulum, are the same devils who are perpetrating the new versions on us … the same Jesuit trained seminarians who endorse and only use the diabolically corrupted versions of the bible. Wow. These are the salesmen…. they are the ones who make those new versions sound grandiose and yet, when you do a little digging, you start to see that the new version editors were almost all perverts ….. unreal folks, unreal … no true disciple of Jesus would dare participate in butchering HIS Words …. such was the case with Dr. Frank Logsdon, a man you can read about on this link attached …. here.
4 Verses to Compare and you will see that the Bible versions are significantly different. Here are the 4 verses that rocked my world and forever changed my view of all these trash, fake, diabolical so-called bible versions … please put the KJB and NIV side by side on these and ALL arguments cease immediately:
Message Received:
“It’s the Holy Spirit who is our Teacher and so the words of a version don’t matter.”
Reply:
So if the words don’t matter, ANY old mere sinful man can make up his own “bible” and it’s still God’s Word? Wow! If the words don’t matter, WHY did God attach such a high price tag around the necks of those who dare tamper with it?
“For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: 19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.” Revelation 22:18-19
The eternal plagues of Revelation, including the lake of fire, are the destiny of all who tamper with God’s Word.
That’s just it, the BIBLE is not mere man’s words … it’s God’s Word and to think that Satan hasn’t been warring against God’s Word is both ignorance of Scripture and blindness. Jesus says that “man shall not live (have life) by bread alone but by every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God.” (Matt. 4:4; Lk 4:4)…. in the Garden Satan began his war on God’s Word by adding one 3-letter word to what God had said (2:17; 3:4) and also casting doubt on what God has stated – just like the new versions do in the text and their margin notes.
Note:
I don’t think we begin to truly see/perceive what a ferocious war we are in the middle of … and it’s been underway for thousands of years before we were even born (Eph. 6:12). To deny the notion that Satan himself would pervert the very words of the LORD would reveal us to be utterly gullible and blind …. because we see right in the beginning, in the Garden, how he did such, and throughout history. Penknife sacrilege has been going on among deceived men for centuries, right in the middle of that which is supposed to be God’s people ….. check this out:
Message Received:
“But it doesn’t matter what version of the Bible I use. The Holy Spirit will lead me and basically it’s all the same.”
Reply:
I mean are we saying that ALL bibles are inspired by the divine Person of the Holy Spirit?…. as if He’s schizophrenia and keeps changing? “I am the LORD, I change not.” (Malachi 3:6) … “FOREVER O LORD thy word is settled in heaven.” (Ps 119:89) … think about it ….. where’s this going to end? I mean now everyone is getting in on the act $$$$$ ….. there’s now a Gay bible? Again, where’s this going to end? Many are extremely appreciative of the preserved Word of God, especially in light of the modern day corruptions …. there seems to be a new, better than all the rest version of the bible that comes out every week or two …. More on the Bible Version issue here.
Message Received (common misconception):
“But we have the Holy Spirit so it doesn’t matter what Bible version we read.”
Reply:
Hi. The Bible says: “He that trusteth in his own heart is a fool: ” (Prov. 28:26) …. many say “Follow your heart” but the Bible warns against this …. because our hearts are corrupted and this is exactly why God gave us and why we need to have His pure Word (Gen. 6:5, 12; Jer. 17:9, etc.) …. so we are not deceived and misled by our own hearts or anyone else’s ….. Ps 119:105 is an important memory verse to live by and also our LORD’s words in Matt 4:4. “He that trusteth in his own heart is a fool: but whoso walketh wisely, he shall be delivered.” Prov 28:26
The Danger of Corrupting God’s Word:
—- Dr. Frank Logston was appointed as the professor to oversee the creation of yet another new version of the English bible, the NASB (North American SINNER Bible haha) ….. look at what Dr. Logston realized in the midst of this atrocity and how he repented, fearing for his own eternal soul at what he had done and participated in ….. Never forget our LORD’s grave warning in Rev. 22:18-19 – “For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: 19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.” See it here in his own words and on video.
RECENTLY:
Had a long time “friend” on FB cite me for being absurd for objecting to his view of the new versions and for believing God preserved His written Word to the English people in the King James Bible. He refused to deal directly with me. He either already has or could easily get my phone number. Matt 18:15-17 …. Is he hiding in his darkness? Why is he afraid to discuss this issue? What does Don have to hide about his views? Why was he not willing to discuss this matter if it is causing unnecessary division? Didn’t Jesus tell us that truth always causes division – between those who believe it and those who don’t? He said he believed I was causing division and he’s correct because when the truth is revealed, it naturally divides those who believe it and those who refuse it. Here’s my reply.
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“Hebrew is not that difficult to learn. You should take a class. Reading from right to left is actually easier. Then you don’t need anybody else’s translation.”
Do you have no conviction at all concerning the lies you have told?
Rob, I’ve been to 2 Bible colleges/Universities. I know your game. The LORD gave us His Word in our language and you are saying we can’t understand it. Funny you would never say that we can’t understand any other book on earth in English.
QUESTION ASKED:
“You know I’m a lover of truth and would never speak against God’s holy word for He is the word and the word is spoken by the Spirit and I would believe that of I did I would be in danger of blasphemy against the Holy Spirit…however please let me know about the comfortable King James Bible…” Cat
REPLY:
The so called archaic words have their specific purpose. The devil is a snake. Firstly, you will much more readily memorize the highest form of the English language, namely when the KJB uses the “archaic” words…. secondly, thee and thou are very specifically referring to God and the worship of HIM alone whereas you and your etc can be plural … and general… meditate on this. Get the book “In Awe of Thy Word” at avpublications.com ….. you will see the beauty and blessing in the KJB like never before.
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“I have a NKJV doesn’t have that symbol. ..but regardless. ..thank you for sharing ..I will be getting a KJV instead. After all we are to live by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God!” Devin
REPLY:
AMEN brother Devin. All this that is coming out on all the new versions …. which just makes my heart so appreciate our LORD for the preservation of His Word to us …. from the Majority manuscripts and brought through the committee He assembled of the 54 most profound Hebrew and Greek scholars ever amassed.
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
I love the Lord very much. And am very careful who to trust / believe! I believe NO MAN! only the Word of God cos there are so many false teachers and wolves in sheep’s clothing. The Holy Spirit is my teacher. John 2:27 ► Parallel Verses King James Version But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
I have a Q. I have heard of tribes who have never ever seen a bible in their lives don’t even know what a book looks like have never seen a white face b4 but then missionaries go to these places and come upon these tribes coming with God’s Word. And before they even begin these people of these tribes begin to quote scripture word for word…. How do you explain this? When no man has taught them? The Holy Spirit is our teacher Todd, only God can help us learn and understand His word by His Spirit the Holy Spirit, who lives in us.
REPLY:
The LORD gave us teachers to help us learn HIS Word Eph 4:12-13 … to mature and equip us.
Ultimately it’s the LORD who confirms the truth of His Word in our hearts and yet, we can learn much from His Word by dwelling together in it with other members of His body – see Col. 3:16; Acts 2:42-47
Teachers … these men are merely there to help us learn HIS Word …. not to be our ultimate teacher ….. John 16:13; 14:26; Ps 119 ….and most of these true elders are NOT found in brick buildings on Sunday morning. They aren’t posers or actors (hypocrites) who are known by how they wait till Sundays to put on the sheep cloaks over their wolf hides. ….and the LORD’s their Teacher and yet, this in NO WAY justifies perverting God’s Word or using a perverted version of His Word once we’ve been given the information exposing the Satanic counterfeits.
God the Holy Spirit gave us His Word and He will NEVER say anything contrary. If we do not realize this truth – that God gave us His Word and changes not – we will be ultimately deceived and willingly misled. Study this, OK: Mal. 3:6; Ps. 119:89 and Mk. 13:31
This is also an extremely essential passage to know: “We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts: 20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. 21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.” 2 Peer 1:19-21
Peter said he loved Jesus and would never deny Him and then denied the Son of God 3 times ….. not good to say that …. not one of us loves Him as we should.
How God deals with tribes in the rain forest does nothing to negate or change how He deals with and holds us accountable who have His written Word. That’s a diversion of the enemy.
QUESTION RECEIVED:
“What about the NKJV, the New King James Bible?
“—- 666 and the New King James Bible
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Textus Receptus (Latin: “received text“) is the name retroactively given to the succession of printed Greek language texts of the New Testament which constituted the textual base for the original German Luther Bible, for the translation of the New Testament into English by William Tyndale (1526), Myles Coverdale’s Bible (1535), Matthew’s Bible (1537), The Great Bible (1539), The Geneva Bible (1557 – 60), The Bishops’ Bible (1568), and the King James Version (1611), and for most other Reformation-era New Testament translations throughout Western and Central Europe such as the Spanish Reina-Valera translation and the Czech Bible of Kralice. The Textus Receptus has been translated into hundreds of languages. (See Also The Word of God for All Nations) The origin of the term “Textus Receptus” comes from the publisher’s preface to the 1633 edition produced by Abraham Elzevir and his nephew Bonaventure who were printers at Leiden:
Textum ergo habes, nunc ab omnibus receptum: in quo nihil immutatum aut corruptum damus. Translated “so you hold the text, now received by all, in which nothing corrupt.”
The two words, “textum” and “receptum“, were modified from the accusative to the nominative case to render textus receptus. Over time, this term has been retroactively applied to Erasmus’ editions, as his work served as the basis of others that followed. Many supporters of the Textus Receptus will name any manuscript which agrees with the Textus Receptus Greek as a “Textus Receptus” type manuscript. This type of association can also apply to early church quotations and language versions.
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Apostasy
“The Certainty of the Words of Truth” [podcast]
Nicholas, the Apostate Deceiver
Historians say that Nicholas (Acts 6:5), a deacon in the first century church, backslid, and led his followers to believe that living in sin would not affect one’s relationship with Christ. The term Nicolaitans is said to come from those who followed Nicholas. Nico-laitans is a compound Greek word. Nico means “to conquer,” and laitans means “the laity.” Satan used Nicholas to conquer his followers through the lie of lawlessness. The evil spirit of Nicholas lives on today through many lawless leaders who operate in the church world in this late hour.
Nicholas taught free love. He and his followers taught that the deeds of believers could not affect their relationship with God. This is antinomianism, which means lawlessness. The Bible clearly refutes such a lie as we will witness in our walk through the Holy Scriptures.
“Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.” 2 Timothy 2:19
“They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.” Titus 1:16
The Bible states here, that those who “profess that they know God” and yet “deny him…in works,” are “abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.”
By this lie of lawlessness, the enemy of souls conquered the people.
“But this thou hast, that thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitans (means “conquer the laity”), which I also hate…So hast thou also them that hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitans, which thing I hate.” Revelation 2:6, 15
Here is some modern terminology for this age-old doctrine:
- Once Saved, Always Saved
- Eternal security (unconditional)
- Calvinism, perseverance of the saints doctrine
In Revelation 2, Jesus Christ tells us that He “hates” two things — “the deeds” and “doctrine of the Nicolaitans.” The Son of God despises the doctrine that teaches that the deeds of men have no effect upon their relationship with Him.
The Scriptures continuously reveal the divine hatred for the acceptance, and even doctrinal authorization, for living in the sins which the LORD tells us violate His holiness, reveal a wicked heart, and will prevent one from entering into the kingdom of God (1 Corinthians 6:9-10; Galatians 5:19-21; Revelation 21:8, 27).
The word “lasciviousness” appears six times in the Bible and means “lack of restraint (from sinning); license for sin; licentiousness.”
To underscore the utter, divine hatred against this lie of lawlessness, it should be noted that this is the only place in Scripture where Jesus Christ, Himself, states that He hates something.
Though they may vary in packaging, these are all kin to the same lawless “ye shall not surely die” lie, which is the lie of the ages.
“Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the Lord your God which I command you.” Deuteronomy 4:2
“For ye have perverted the words of the living God, of the Lord of hosts our God.” Jeremiah 23:36b
“Thus saith the Lord; Stand in the court of the Lord’s house, and speak unto all the cities of Judah, which come to worship in the Lord’s house, all the words that I command thee to speak unto them; diminish not a word.” Jeremiah 26:2
“For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: 19 and if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.” Revelation 22:18-19
“Hath God said” ?
Always remember that whenever you have someone casting doubt on God’s Word, words, you are dealing with a person who is under Satan’s control, is a rejecter of the LORD, and therefore His truth, and is a child of the devil. Every time.
Notice what we see Satan doing in the Garden of Eden just before he changed, altered, added one word to God’s words:
“Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?” Genesis 3:1
Then, in verse 4 we read how Satan added just one three-letter word which changed the meaning of what God said and changed world history.
“And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:” Genesis 3:4
“But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.” Genesis 2:17
“Thou shalt surely die” from God was then changed by Satan to “Ye shall NOT surely die.”
This is the first time we see what’s known as the “eternal security” lie. It’s also known as “once saved always saved” or “perseverance of the saints” heresy. Any person teaching or believeing this lie has partnered with Satan himself.
Knowing “the certainty of the words of truth”
“Bow down thine ear, and hear the words of the wise, and apply thine heart unto my knowledge.
18 For it is a pleasant thing if thou keep them within thee; they shall withal be fitted in thy lips.
19 That thy trust may be in the Lord, I have made known to thee this day, even to thee.
20 Have not I written to thee excellent things in counsels and knowledge,
21 that I might make thee know the certainty of the words of truth; that thou mightest answer the words of truth to them that send unto thee? Proverbs 22:17-21
“that I might make thee know the certainty of the words of truth” – and how can we “know the certainty of the words of truth” if we aren’t even reading them – if we are not reading the preserved Word of God but rather a cheap counterfeit?
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Apostasy
8 Classes of Sinners Guaranteed to Spend Eternity in the Lake of Fire [podcast]
8 Classes of Sinners Guaranteed to Spend Eternity in Hell
“But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.” Revelation 21:8
“The second death”
[which is the second death] The second death is the lake of fire, or the second separation from God in hell (Rev_2:11; Rev_20:14; Rev_21:8).
Of Revelation 21:8, Adam Clarke writes the following:
Revelation 21:8
But the fearful – Δειλοις· Those who, for fear of losing life or their property, either refused to receive the Christian religion, though convinced of its truth and importance; or, having received it, in times of persecution fell away, not being willing to risk their lives.
And unbelieving – Those who resist against full evidence. And sinners, και ἁμαρτωλοις, is added here by about thirty excellent MSS., and is found in the Syrian, Arabic, some of the Slavonic, and in Andreas and Arethas. On this evidence Griesbach has admitted it into the text.
The abominable – Εβδελυγμενοις· Those who are polluted with unnatural lust. (sodomites, lesbians Romans 1)
And murderers – Φονευσι· Those who take away the life of man for any cause but the murder of another, and those who hate a brother in their heart (.
And whoremongers – Πορνοις· Adulterers, fornicators, whores, prostitutes, and rakes of every description.
Sorcerers – Φαρμακοις· Persons who, by drugs, philtres, fumigations, etc., pretend to produce supernatural effects, chiefly by spiritual agency.
Idolaters – Ειδωλολατραις· Those who offer any kind of worship or religious reverence to any thing but God. All image worshippers are idolaters in every sense of the word.
And all liars – Και πασι τοις ψευδεσι· Every one who speaks contrary to the truth when he knows the truth, and even he who speaks the truth with the intention to deceive; i.e., to persuade a person that a thing is different from what it really is, by telling only a part of the truth, or suppressing some circumstance which would have led the hearer to a different end to the true conclusion. All these shall have their portion, το μερος, their share, what belongs to them, their right, in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone. This is the second death, from which there is no recovery.
“21:8 But not all are overcomers. Some are cowardly, afraid to confess Christ; unbelieving, unwilling to trust the sinner’s Savior; sinners, all those who remain in their sins, whether guilty of the gross iniquities listed here or not; abominable, given over to disgusting immorality; murderers, malicious and savage killers; sexually immoral, practicing fornication and other forms of sexual sins; sorcerers, those who traffic with evil spirits; idolaters, insulting God by worshiping images; and all liars, compulsive deceivers. These will be assigned to the lake of fire as their final destiny.” Believer’s Bible Commentary
“And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. … 14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. 15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.” Revelation 20:10, 14-15
One source notes the following:
“Brimstone and fire” refers to the fiery imagery of divine judgment and eternal punishment found in the Bible. It symbolizes God’s wrath, often describing the fate of sinners in hell, and is a phrase used in religious sermons and literature. “Brimstone,” an old word for sulfur, is a key component of this imagery, evoking a smell and heat associated with inescapable, fiery destruction.
Biblical origins
Old Testament:
The phrase originates in the King James translation of the Old Testament, used to describe God’s destruction of enemies. A key example is the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah.
New Testament:
The imagery is used to describe eternal damnation, a common theme in both the Old and New Testaments. In the book of Revelation, for example, it describes those who worship the beast being tormented in a lake of fire and brimstone.
Etymology:
The phrase is a calque of the Biblical Hebrew and Ancient Greek words for “sulfur and fire”.
Geological evidence:
Archaeological and geological evidence of sulfur deposits and charred formations in areas like the Dead Sea region have been noted as consistent with biblical descriptions of fire and sulfur-related events.”
“But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.” Matthew 8:12
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Articles
The Purpose of Elders in Christ’s Body [podcast]
There is no more important work transpiring in the earth today than the work of the Gospel of Jesus Christ (Matthew 9:35-38; 28:18-20; Ephesians 4:11-15; 1 Peter 5:1-6, etc.).
“Now the God of peace, that brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, that great shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the everlasting covenant, 21 Make you perfect in every good work to do his will, working in you that which is wellpleasing in his sight, through Jesus Christ; to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.” Hebrews 13:20-21
In short, the authentic under-shepherd ordained of Jesus Himself (John 15:16), will give up his life in this fleeting world for the sheep of Christ – just as the Great Shepherd of the sheep did on the cross. Such a divinely called-out man, will teach only God’s pure Word and watch for the souls of the LORD’s people (Hebrews 13:7, 17). He will take up the cross – live the crucified life – and therefore ministry will not be about them but rather about Jesus and His beloved sheep for whom He shed His blood and is soon returning (Philippians 3:17-21).
Also in Hebrews 13 …. The true elder of Christ will, according to Hebrews 13, do two things:
- Speak the pure Word of God to you and get you into it:
“Remember them which have the rule over you, who have spoken unto you the word of God: whose faith follow, considering the end of their conversation (their way of life).” Hebrews 13:7
2. Will in the fear of God pray for and “watch for your soul.”
“Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.” Hebrews 13:17
In review, just WHAT are the earmark fruits of true under-shepherds as opposed to the many wolves among us?
- True under shepherds relentlessly teach God’s Word – “who have spoken unto you the word of God.” (Hebrews 13:7)
- They are there for you! – “they watch for your souls.” (Hebrews 13:7)
IF they aren’t preaching God’s pure Word to you, fearing God, not you…. and watching for your eternal soul, they are wolves in sheep’s clothing. Repent and run to Jesus beloved.
Let me add that if they are using a fake “bible” instead of the King James Bible, that should be a clue to the darkness they walk in (Matthew 7:16, 20).
Elders are ordained of God and yet never to take His place nor to negate our own personal responsibility to seek God daily for ourselves. Yet, we do not need a preacher. Why? – because we each have a Bible. Read it. We don’t need a preacher to tell us what the Bible says! Read it for yourself, learning of the LORD yourself. Today is your day to take personal responsibility to seek God for yourself! Stop depending on a preacher or preachers. Devour God’s Word daily. Jesus taught personal responsibility and the essential nature of it when He said “Take heed to yourselves” (Luke 21:34-36) …… Paul instructed Timothy to “Study” the Word (2 Timothy 2:15).
Today we have all around us church-goers who are not possessed with a heart after God, do not diligently study and read and live out Christ’s Word. This lukewarm, world-loving fruit clearly reveals the prophesied priesthood of wolves (1 Chronicles 16:11; Psalms 27:4, 8; Matthew 24:11; Acts 13:22; 2 Timothy 3:13; 1 John 4:1, etc.). Until a pastor has provoke you to get into God’s Word for yourself, to seeking His holy face daily in prayer, he has failed. If has has diligently, biblically sought to do these essentials, and people have refused God’s Word, refused to seek His holy face continually, the blood is off of his hands (Ezekiel 3:18-20).
“When I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; and thou givest him not warning, nor speakest to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life; the same wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand. 19 Yet if thou warn the wicked, and he turn not from his wickedness, nor from his wicked way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul. 20 Again, When a righteous man doth turn from his righteousness, and commit iniquity, and I lay a stumblingblock before him, he shall die: because thou hast not given him warning, he shall die in his sin, and his righteousness which he hath done shall not be remembered; but his blood will I require at thine hand.” Ezekiel 3:18-20
When you check the fruit of a fellowship, check, discern if the individual saints are vibrant in Christ, diligently seeking His holy face, in His Word, living a life of prayer, denying self, taking up the cross daily, and following Jesus. This sounds like what we see of the earliest saints in the book of Acts, right? Boom. Remember how Peter preached and 8,000 were saved and how the Berean believers put Paul’s teaching to the Scriptural test? (Acts 2-4; 17:10-11, etc.).
Sadly, usually you see a bunch of people who are proud to be a member of a church with none of the biblical fruit list above.
The apostle Paul kept a close watch on those he oversaw.
“For this cause, when I could no longer forbear, I sent to know your faith, lest by some means the tempter have tempted you, and our labour be in vain.” 1 Thessalonians 3:5
Having a physical “church” building makes no mere man, no supposed elder, an official representative of Heaven. Feeding the sheep of Christ with His pure Word and equipping them “for the work of the ministry” is the mark of a true under-shepherd of Christ (John 21:15-17; Ephesians 4:11-12, etc.). Discern. Beware. Inspect the fruit. Jesus nor any of His holy apostles collected a penny to build a building called “church.” No, they went to the people – to serve them instead of having the people come to them.
Let’s test that…. How many people do you personally know who are good church members, Sunday morning church attenders, and ALSO true, daily disciples whom God is using everywhere they go? Think about that…. How many true disciples of Jesus do you know who are involved in a Sunday morning church program? If you personally know even one true disciple, that’s a miracle and in spite of his attendance at the Sunday morning circus called “church.”
Unlike Christ’s apostle Paul, most in leadership today foster in their prey a dependence on THEM and their church business instead of prayerfully, biblically exhorting people to depend on Jesus (1 Corinthians 1:29-2:5).
Like Christ’s apostle Paul, the true elder labors relentlessly to see you grounded in Christ – not in him or his ministry or church, but in CHRIST! Listen closely:
“As ye have therefore received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk ye in him: 7 Rooted and built up in him, and stablished in the faith, as ye have been taught, abounding therein with thanksgiving.” Colossians 2:6-7
It simply doesn’t matter what else he’s doing, if any minister is not prayerfully, biblically, perpetually rooting and grounding you in Christ, he’s a fraud. Run.
Like Jesus and His holy apostle Paul, part of grounding you ever more deeper in Christ, is warning you to “beware” of the “many false prophets.” (Matthew 24:11)
“Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. 9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. 10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:” Colossians 2:8-10
SO, he’s not exhorting and admonishing you to seek and know the LORD in an ever deepening fashion? He’s not equipping, maturing you “for the work of the ministry” and yet you still consider him one of the LORD’s under-shepherds? He’s not getting YOU into the Word (2 Timothy 2:15) for yourself? That’s a false leader who is entertaining the goats instead of feeding and equipping the saints! Run! (See Ephesians 4:11-15; 1 Peter 5:1-6, etc.)
False leaders divert the attention, the heart affections, the resources, and the energy of God’s people away from Christ and simple obedience to His Great Commission mandate. YOU are personally responsible! Waste is rampant! If you support, “bid God speed” (2 John 7-11) to a false leader, false ministry, then you will perish with them!
The divine purpose for elders is not to dominate nor entertain the LORD’s sheep but rather to help their joy in Christ! Get to know this verse saints:
“Not for that we have dominion over your faith, but are helpers of your joy: for by faith ye stand.” 2 Corinthians 1:24
There is the citing of elders in the Word and their divine purpose – to humbly serve God by helping His sheep grow in the knowledge and grace of Christ (Ephesians 4:11-15; 1 Peter 5:1-6).
Christ’s apostle Paul desired the “perfection” (maturity in Christ) of the people of God (Ephesians 4:11-15).
“For we are glad, when we are weak, and ye are strong: and this also we wish, even your perfection.” 2 Corinthians 13:9
Like Apollos, Elders among God’s people must remain teachable to God’s Word and simply and only teach and preach his word (Proverbs 9:9; Acts 18:26). Elders true to the LORD act on his behalf and never out of a personal agenda for self gain (2 Corinthians 3:5; 4:5, etc.). They live the crucified life (Galatians 2:20).
We are to humble ourselves like Apollos did and learn the way of our God more perfectly from each other, via God’s Word – as Apollos learned it more fully from Aquila and Priscilla (Acts 18:24-28).
Beloved Apollos was a very effective, anointed communicator of God’s Word and yet, was in need of maturing, of being perfected. So, God sent to him an elder and his wife, Aquila and Priscilla. Apollos humbly received the LORD’s elders and His grace to grow in Christ:
“And a certain Jew named Apollos, born at Alexandria, an eloquent man, and mighty in the scriptures, came to Ephesus. 25 This man was instructed in the way of the Lord; and being fervent in the spirit, he spake and taught diligently the things of the Lord, knowing only the baptism of John. 26 And he began to speak boldly in the synagogue: whom when Aquila and Priscilla had heard, they took him unto them, and expounded unto him the way of God more perfectly.” Acts 18:24-26
The vast majority of “churches” that meet in “church buildings” are simply and merely conducting “church services” where they entertain their prey. They are not equipping the saints for the work of the ministry and therefore discerned as being counterfeit (Ephesians 4:11-13). If they were, there would be salty disciples in their midst who go forth to minister Christ’s kingdom blessings wherever they go. Not even a trace of this transpiring in the apostate modern church world. Run. Run. Run.
The Purpose of Kingdom Elders:
“And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; 12 For the perfecting (equipping, maturing) of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:” Ephesians 4:11-12
Philip Lye writes: “Paul says in Ephesians 4, that he gave some to be apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors and teachers. He expressly says these people are given to mature the saints, to equip them for their ministry and growth in Jesus Christ. Jesus tells us in Matthew 24 that many false prophets and messiahs will arise deceiving many. They are simply functions that God has given and not titles which the proud use to strut about like a peacock. Most of these people that I have met (and I have seen a lot of famous ones) are false, proud and arrogant and not servants of the the Lord Jesus Christ. I have seen humble genuine ones who move mightily in truth, calling people to repentance and right relationship with Jesus and a demonstration of genuine miracles and wonders. They are to be genuine servants to God’s people.”
VIEW this following verse from Solomon’s day in light of our calling and work till Christ returns:
“Now all the work of Solomon was prepared unto the day of the foundation of the house of the LORD, and until it was finished. So the house of the LORD was perfected.” 2 Chronicles 8:16
Let’s read a larger portion of this important passage in Ephesians 4. God fearing under-shepherds must prayerfully labor for and be intent upon seeing God’s people grow in the grace of Christ to the full stature of maturity He has ordained!
“And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; 12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: 13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ: 14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive; 15 But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:” Ephesians 4:11-15
The Error of Using Titles in the Modern Church World
God sovereignly and exclusively ordained MEN to feed, lead, and equip His saints (Ephesians 4:8-11). Women are called to and seen doing many ministry functions in the New Testament but never as a leader in a position specifically designated in Scripture for men.
Repent. The American “church” is a catastrophe of spineless moral-coward Ahabs who’ve allowed, suffered women to lead, and the fall out is incalculable (Revelation 2:20-24).
GOD’s men must never allow women to lead where they (men) are called to lead (1 Timothy 2:12; 3:2; Revelation 2:20-24).
To put yourself under the ministry of a woman who is acting as an elder among God’s people, is to defy Christ, and to agree with Christ’s arch enemy and his Jezebels and to bring severe destruction on the people of God (1 Timothy 2:12; 3:2; Revelation 2:20-24).
JUST because a woman can run her mouth and even genuinely have a gift of the Spirit DOES NOT mean she’s an elder in the body of Christ – which is divinely reserved non-negotiably for men, male elders (1 Timothy 2:11-12; 3:2). | Beware of Scripture-Twisting Jezebels
We must humbly confess before our LORD and God that we have nothing and are nothing without Him!
“I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.” John 15:5
God can use us in spite of having a seminary or Bible college background…. If we will truly denounce it, lay it all down, and truly submit to Him – just like Paul did (Philippians 3). Otherwise we will join the epidemic of false prophets who build their own kingdoms in this fleeting life and spend eternity in hell (2 Peter 2:1-3). Paul counted his “higher education” as “dung” to know and serve Christ (Philippians 3).
BIBLICALLY SPEAKING, BY DEFINITION, ELDERS ARE NOT SEMINARIANS (UNLESS THEY’VE DENOUNCED SUCH) BUT RATHER PROVEN MEN OF GOD WHO HAVE WALKED WITH CHRIST FOR SOME TIME AND ARE SEASONED IN DOCTRINE AND GODLY CHARACTER AND ABLE TO HELP ASSIST OTHER BELIEVERS GROW IN GRACE (Philippians 3).
In part, we can be transformed in our thinking/perspective of what leaders are seen to be in the apostate modern church vs the biblical definition of an elder which is a humble servant with sound doctrine and a godly life (1 Timothy 3; 2 Timothy 3:10; Titus 1-2, etc.).
Christ’s kingdom ordination is not like the ordinations of many denominations….. To ordain seems to mean to recognize the work of GOD in a man’s life and to set him forth into ministry as by the leading of the Spirit of God.
“Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.” John 15:16
ORDAIN
G5087
τίθημι
tithēmi
tith’-ay-mee
A prolonged form of a primary word θέω theō (which is used only as an alternate in certain tenses); to place (in the widest application, literally and figuratively; properly in a passive or horizontal posture, and thus different from G2476, which properly denotes an upright and active position, while G2749 is properly reflexive and utterly prostrate): – + advise, appoint, bow, commit, conceive, give, X kneel down, lay (aside, down, up), make, ordain, purpose, put, set (forth), settle, sink down.
Total KJV occurrences: 96
“Now there were in the church that was at Antioch certain prophets and teachers; as Barnabas, and Simeon that was called Niger, and Lucius of Cyrene, and Manaen, which had been brought up with Herod the tetrarch, and Saul. 2 As they ministered to the Lord, and fasted, the Holy Ghost said, Separate me Barnabas and Saul for the work whereunto I have called them. 3 And when they had fasted and prayed, and laid their hands on them, they sent them away.” Acts 13:1-3
Denominations of mere men set their elders forth to do THEIR bidding, to perpetuate their own cause and existence, to build their false church businesse$. God fearing assemblies of the saints simply recognize Christ’s work in a man and prayerfully send him forth to do GOD’s work. They worship and exalt Christ whole heartedly!
MINISTRY is about feeding sheep, not entertaining goats (John 21:15-17). So, when you see a “minister” entertaining, you know he himself is a goat (1 Corinthians 1:29-2:5).
What True Elders Teach
“For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord; and ourselves your servants for Jesus’ sake.” 2 Corinthians 4:5
THERE is nothing good in us except Christ. We are not featured but JESUS is. “We preach CHRIST crucified” (1 Cor 1:23). All our righteousnesses are as filthy rags and HE is the One and only righteous Redeemer whom we communicate to others (1 Cor 9:16; Rom 7:18 etc.).
Jesus’ true disciples are crucified vessels who preach with His authority, unlike the lame leaders we have today (Matthew 7:28-29). True Gospel preaching rocks the world of those who hear it – it never coddles people in their sin. That’s the work of wolves! Beware!
Godly Elders Teach God’s People to Discern
“And they shall teach my people the difference between the holy and profane, and cause them to discern between the unclean and the clean.” Ezekiel 44:23
Why don’t some leaders teach discernment?
“Anyone that profits off of you being blind, will never teach you or inspire you to see.” unknown
Any man in leadership who doesn’t warn you of false prophets as did Christ and His apostles, is a wolf who does not want you to see who he truly is.
God’s people are to continue to learn to discern – to test, to weigh all things against Holy Scripture. Ungodly elders have the “I said it so it’s true” notion. Or the “We’ve always taught that” or “That’s what we believe” philosophy. Not. What saith the Scriptures is what every true follower of Jesus asks, as he searches God’s Word to ascertain truth. Every student of Christ should become extremely familiar with Acts 17:10-11.
QUESTION RECEIVED:
“I am curious as to how one man is considered the other’s elder? Do they attend the same church gathering thus, he is a church elder or is it through willful submission of the younger as an understudy or simply due to the fact that one man is older?”
REPLY:
Great question brother. Elder, biblically seems to mean older and more seasoned in God’s Word, having walked with the LORD longer. Two views come to mind: 1. The organic body of Christ, the kingdom relationships we have, where there appear men in our lives who are seasoned and there’s an automatic elder/young relationship (that’s how it is here)… and 2. Where a person attends a church group and they have their elder in a more organized fashion as you mentioned…. that help?
Nothing brings definition to this like God’s Word as you know…. and notice how it begins with “The elders which are AMONG you”….
“The elders which are among you I exhort, who am also an elder, and a witness of the sufferings of Christ, and also a partaker of the glory that shall be revealed: 2 Feed the flock of God which is among you, taking the oversight thereof, not by constraint, but willingly; not for filthy lucre, but of a ready mind; 3 Neither as being lords over God’s heritage, but being ensamples to the flock. 4 And when the chief Shepherd shall appear, ye shall receive a crown of glory that fadeth not away. 5 Likewise, ye younger, submit yourselves unto the elder. Yea, all of you be subject one to another, and be clothed with humility: for God resisteth the proud, and giveth grace to the humble. 6 Humble yourselves therefore under the mighty hand of God, that he may exalt you in due time:” 1 Peter 5:1-6
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