
The Purpose of Elders in Christ’s Body [podcast]
There is no more important work transpiring in the earth today than the work of the Gospel of Jesus Christ (Matthew 9:35-38; 28:18-20; Ephesians 4:11-15; 1 Peter 5:1-6, etc.).
“Now the God of peace, that brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, that great shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the everlasting covenant, 21 Make you perfect in every good work to do his will, working in you that which is wellpleasing in his sight, through Jesus Christ; to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.” Hebrews 13:20-21
In short, the authentic under-shepherd ordained of Jesus Himself (John 15:16), will give up his life in this fleeting world for the sheep of Christ – just as the Great Shepherd of the sheep did on the cross. Such a divinely called-out man, will teach only God’s pure Word and watch for the souls of the LORD’s people (Hebrews 13:7, 17). He will take up the cross – live the crucified life – and therefore ministry will not be about them but rather about Jesus and His beloved sheep for whom He shed His blood and is soon returning (Philippians 3:17-21).
Also in Hebrews 13 …. The true elder of Christ will, according to Hebrews 13, do two things:
- Speak the pure Word of God to you and get you into it:
“Remember them which have the rule over you, who have spoken unto you the word of God: whose faith follow, considering the end of their conversation (their way of life).” Hebrews 13:7
2. Will in the fear of God pray for and “watch for your soul.”
“Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.” Hebrews 13:17
In review, just WHAT are the earmark fruits of true under-shepherds as opposed to the many wolves among us?
- True under shepherds relentlessly teach God’s Word – “who have spoken unto you the word of God.” (Hebrews 13:7)
- They are there for you! – “they watch for your souls.” (Hebrews 13:7)
IF they aren’t preaching God’s pure Word to you, fearing God, not you…. and watching for your eternal soul, they are wolves in sheep’s clothing. Repent and run to Jesus beloved.
Let me add that if they are using a fake “bible” instead of the King James Bible, that should be a clue to the darkness they walk in (Matthew 7:16, 20).
Elders are ordained of God and yet never to take His place nor to negate our own personal responsibility to seek God daily for ourselves. Yet, we do not need a preacher. Why? – because we each have a Bible. Read it. We don’t need a preacher to tell us what the Bible says! Read it for yourself, learning of the LORD yourself. Today is your day to take personal responsibility to seek God for yourself! Stop depending on a preacher or preachers. Devour God’s Word daily. Jesus taught personal responsibility and the essential nature of it when He said “Take heed to yourselves” (Luke 21:34-36) …… Paul instructed Timothy to “Study” the Word (2 Timothy 2:15).
Today we have all around us church-goers who are not possessed with a heart after God, do not diligently study and read and live out Christ’s Word. This lukewarm, world-loving fruit clearly reveals the prophesied priesthood of wolves (1 Chronicles 16:11; Psalms 27:4, 8; Matthew 24:11; Acts 13:22; 2 Timothy 3:13; 1 John 4:1, etc.). Until a pastor has provoke you to get into God’s Word for yourself, to seeking His holy face daily in prayer, he has failed. If has has diligently, biblically sought to do these essentials, and people have refused God’s Word, refused to seek His holy face continually, the blood is off of his hands (Ezekiel 3:18-20).
“When I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; and thou givest him not warning, nor speakest to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life; the same wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand. 19 Yet if thou warn the wicked, and he turn not from his wickedness, nor from his wicked way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul. 20 Again, When a righteous man doth turn from his righteousness, and commit iniquity, and I lay a stumblingblock before him, he shall die: because thou hast not given him warning, he shall die in his sin, and his righteousness which he hath done shall not be remembered; but his blood will I require at thine hand.” Ezekiel 3:18-20
When you check the fruit of a fellowship, check, discern if the individual saints are vibrant in Christ, diligently seeking His holy face, in His Word, living a life of prayer, denying self, taking up the cross daily, and following Jesus. This sounds like what we see of the earliest saints in the book of Acts, right? Boom. Remember how Peter preached and 8,000 were saved and how the Berean believers put Paul’s teaching to the Scriptural test? (Acts 2-4; 17:10-11, etc.).
Sadly, usually you see a bunch of people who are proud to be a member of a church with none of the biblical fruit list above.
The apostle Paul kept a close watch on those he oversaw.
“For this cause, when I could no longer forbear, I sent to know your faith, lest by some means the tempter have tempted you, and our labour be in vain.” 1 Thessalonians 3:5
Having a physical “church” building makes no mere man, no supposed elder, an official representative of Heaven. Feeding the sheep of Christ with His pure Word and equipping them “for the work of the ministry” is the mark of a true under-shepherd of Christ (John 21:15-17; Ephesians 4:11-12, etc.). Discern. Beware. Inspect the fruit. Jesus nor any of His holy apostles collected a penny to build a building called “church.” No, they went to the people – to serve them instead of having the people come to them.
Let’s test that…. How many people do you personally know who are good church members, Sunday morning church attenders, and ALSO true, daily disciples whom God is using everywhere they go? Think about that…. How many true disciples of Jesus do you know who are involved in a Sunday morning church program? If you personally know even one true disciple, that’s a miracle and in spite of his attendance at the Sunday morning circus called “church.”
Unlike Christ’s apostle Paul, most in leadership today foster in their prey a dependence on THEM and their church business instead of prayerfully, biblically exhorting people to depend on Jesus (1 Corinthians 1:29-2:5).
Like Christ’s apostle Paul, the true elder labors relentlessly to see you grounded in Christ – not in him or his ministry or church, but in CHRIST! Listen closely:
“As ye have therefore received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk ye in him: 7 Rooted and built up in him, and stablished in the faith, as ye have been taught, abounding therein with thanksgiving.” Colossians 2:6-7
It simply doesn’t matter what else he’s doing, if any minister is not prayerfully, biblically, perpetually rooting and grounding you in Christ, he’s a fraud. Run.
Like Jesus and His holy apostle Paul, part of grounding you ever more deeper in Christ, is warning you to “beware” of the “many false prophets.” (Matthew 24:11)
“Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. 9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. 10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:” Colossians 2:8-10
SO, he’s not exhorting and admonishing you to seek and know the LORD in an ever deepening fashion? He’s not equipping, maturing you “for the work of the ministry” and yet you still consider him one of the LORD’s under-shepherds? He’s not getting YOU into the Word (2 Timothy 2:15) for yourself? That’s a false leader who is entertaining the goats instead of feeding and equipping the saints! Run! (See Ephesians 4:11-15; 1 Peter 5:1-6, etc.)
False leaders divert the attention, the heart affections, the resources, and the energy of God’s people away from Christ and simple obedience to His Great Commission mandate. YOU are personally responsible! Waste is rampant! If you support, “bid God speed” (2 John 7-11) to a false leader, false ministry, then you will perish with them!
The divine purpose for elders is not to dominate nor entertain the LORD’s sheep but rather to help their joy in Christ! Get to know this verse saints:
“Not for that we have dominion over your faith, but are helpers of your joy: for by faith ye stand.” 2 Corinthians 1:24
There is the citing of elders in the Word and their divine purpose – to humbly serve God by helping His sheep grow in the knowledge and grace of Christ (Ephesians 4:11-15; 1 Peter 5:1-6).
Christ’s apostle Paul desired the “perfection” (maturity in Christ) of the people of God (Ephesians 4:11-15).
“For we are glad, when we are weak, and ye are strong: and this also we wish, even your perfection.” 2 Corinthians 13:9
Like Apollos, Elders among God’s people must remain teachable to God’s Word and simply and only teach and preach his word (Proverbs 9:9; Acts 18:26). Elders true to the LORD act on his behalf and never out of a personal agenda for self gain (2 Corinthians 3:5; 4:5, etc.). They live the crucified life (Galatians 2:20).
We are to humble ourselves like Apollos did and learn the way of our God more perfectly from each other, via God’s Word – as Apollos learned it more fully from Aquila and Priscilla (Acts 18:24-28).
Beloved Apollos was a very effective, anointed communicator of God’s Word and yet, was in need of maturing, of being perfected. So, God sent to him an elder and his wife, Aquila and Priscilla. Apollos humbly received the LORD’s elders and His grace to grow in Christ:
“And a certain Jew named Apollos, born at Alexandria, an eloquent man, and mighty in the scriptures, came to Ephesus. 25 This man was instructed in the way of the Lord; and being fervent in the spirit, he spake and taught diligently the things of the Lord, knowing only the baptism of John. 26 And he began to speak boldly in the synagogue: whom when Aquila and Priscilla had heard, they took him unto them, and expounded unto him the way of God more perfectly.” Acts 18:24-26
The vast majority of “churches” that meet in “church buildings” are simply and merely conducting “church services” where they entertain their prey. They are not equipping the saints for the work of the ministry and therefore discerned as being counterfeit (Ephesians 4:11-13). If they were, there would be salty disciples in their midst who go forth to minister Christ’s kingdom blessings wherever they go. Not even a trace of this transpiring in the apostate modern church world. Run. Run. Run.
The Purpose of Kingdom Elders:
“And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; 12 For the perfecting (equipping, maturing) of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:” Ephesians 4:11-12
Philip Lye writes: “Paul says in Ephesians 4, that he gave some to be apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors and teachers. He expressly says these people are given to mature the saints, to equip them for their ministry and growth in Jesus Christ. Jesus tells us in Matthew 24 that many false prophets and messiahs will arise deceiving many. They are simply functions that God has given and not titles which the proud use to strut about like a peacock. Most of these people that I have met (and I have seen a lot of famous ones) are false, proud and arrogant and not servants of the the Lord Jesus Christ. I have seen humble genuine ones who move mightily in truth, calling people to repentance and right relationship with Jesus and a demonstration of genuine miracles and wonders. They are to be genuine servants to God’s people.”
VIEW this following verse from Solomon’s day in light of our calling and work till Christ returns:
“Now all the work of Solomon was prepared unto the day of the foundation of the house of the LORD, and until it was finished. So the house of the LORD was perfected.” 2 Chronicles 8:16
Let’s read a larger portion of this important passage in Ephesians 4. God fearing under-shepherds must prayerfully labor for and be intent upon seeing God’s people grow in the grace of Christ to the full stature of maturity He has ordained!
“And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; 12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: 13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ: 14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive; 15 But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:” Ephesians 4:11-15
The Error of Using Titles in the Modern Church World
God sovereignly and exclusively ordained MEN to feed, lead, and equip His saints (Ephesians 4:8-11). Women are called to and seen doing many ministry functions in the New Testament but never as a leader in a position specifically designated in Scripture for men.
Repent. The American “church” is a catastrophe of spineless moral-coward Ahabs who’ve allowed, suffered women to lead, and the fall out is incalculable (Revelation 2:20-24).
GOD’s men must never allow women to lead where they (men) are called to lead (1 Timothy 2:12; 3:2; Revelation 2:20-24).
To put yourself under the ministry of a woman who is acting as an elder among God’s people, is to defy Christ, and to agree with Christ’s arch enemy and his Jezebels and to bring severe destruction on the people of God (1 Timothy 2:12; 3:2; Revelation 2:20-24).
JUST because a woman can run her mouth and even genuinely have a gift of the Spirit DOES NOT mean she’s an elder in the body of Christ – which is divinely reserved non-negotiably for men, male elders (1 Timothy 2:11-12; 3:2). | Beware of Scripture-Twisting Jezebels
We must humbly confess before our LORD and God that we have nothing and are nothing without Him!
“I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.” John 15:5
God can use us in spite of having a seminary or Bible college background…. If we will truly denounce it, lay it all down, and truly submit to Him – just like Paul did (Philippians 3). Otherwise we will join the epidemic of false prophets who build their own kingdoms in this fleeting life and spend eternity in hell (2 Peter 2:1-3). Paul counted his “higher education” as “dung” to know and serve Christ (Philippians 3).
BIBLICALLY SPEAKING, BY DEFINITION, ELDERS ARE NOT SEMINARIANS (UNLESS THEY’VE DENOUNCED SUCH) BUT RATHER PROVEN MEN OF GOD WHO HAVE WALKED WITH CHRIST FOR SOME TIME AND ARE SEASONED IN DOCTRINE AND GODLY CHARACTER AND ABLE TO HELP ASSIST OTHER BELIEVERS GROW IN GRACE (Philippians 3).
In part, we can be transformed in our thinking/perspective of what leaders are seen to be in the apostate modern church vs the biblical definition of an elder which is a humble servant with sound doctrine and a godly life (1 Timothy 3; 2 Timothy 3:10; Titus 1-2, etc.).
Christ’s kingdom ordination is not like the ordinations of many denominations….. To ordain seems to mean to recognize the work of GOD in a man’s life and to set him forth into ministry as by the leading of the Spirit of God.
“Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.” John 15:16
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τίθημι
tithēmi
tith’-ay-mee
A prolonged form of a primary word θέω theō (which is used only as an alternate in certain tenses); to place (in the widest application, literally and figuratively; properly in a passive or horizontal posture, and thus different from G2476, which properly denotes an upright and active position, while G2749 is properly reflexive and utterly prostrate): – + advise, appoint, bow, commit, conceive, give, X kneel down, lay (aside, down, up), make, ordain, purpose, put, set (forth), settle, sink down.
Total KJV occurrences: 96
“Now there were in the church that was at Antioch certain prophets and teachers; as Barnabas, and Simeon that was called Niger, and Lucius of Cyrene, and Manaen, which had been brought up with Herod the tetrarch, and Saul. 2 As they ministered to the Lord, and fasted, the Holy Ghost said, Separate me Barnabas and Saul for the work whereunto I have called them. 3 And when they had fasted and prayed, and laid their hands on them, they sent them away.” Acts 13:1-3
Denominations of mere men set their elders forth to do THEIR bidding, to perpetuate their own cause and existence, to build their false church businesse$. God fearing assemblies of the saints simply recognize Christ’s work in a man and prayerfully send him forth to do GOD’s work. They worship and exalt Christ whole heartedly!
MINISTRY is about feeding sheep, not entertaining goats (John 21:15-17). So, when you see a “minister” entertaining, you know he himself is a goat (1 Corinthians 1:29-2:5).
What True Elders Teach
“For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord; and ourselves your servants for Jesus’ sake.” 2 Corinthians 4:5
THERE is nothing good in us except Christ. We are not featured but JESUS is. “We preach CHRIST crucified” (1 Cor 1:23). All our righteousnesses are as filthy rags and HE is the One and only righteous Redeemer whom we communicate to others (1 Cor 9:16; Rom 7:18 etc.).
Jesus’ true disciples are crucified vessels who preach with His authority, unlike the lame leaders we have today (Matthew 7:28-29). True Gospel preaching rocks the world of those who hear it – it never coddles people in their sin. That’s the work of wolves! Beware!
Godly Elders Teach God’s People to Discern
“And they shall teach my people the difference between the holy and profane, and cause them to discern between the unclean and the clean.” Ezekiel 44:23
Why don’t some leaders teach discernment?
“Anyone that profits off of you being blind, will never teach you or inspire you to see.” unknown
Any man in leadership who doesn’t warn you of false prophets as did Christ and His apostles, is a wolf who does not want you to see who he truly is.
God’s people are to continue to learn to discern – to test, to weigh all things against Holy Scripture. Ungodly elders have the “I said it so it’s true” notion. Or the “We’ve always taught that” or “That’s what we believe” philosophy. Not. What saith the Scriptures is what every true follower of Jesus asks, as he searches God’s Word to ascertain truth. Every student of Christ should become extremely familiar with Acts 17:10-11.
QUESTION RECEIVED:
“I am curious as to how one man is considered the other’s elder? Do they attend the same church gathering thus, he is a church elder or is it through willful submission of the younger as an understudy or simply due to the fact that one man is older?”
REPLY:
Great question brother. Elder, biblically seems to mean older and more seasoned in God’s Word, having walked with the LORD longer. Two views come to mind: 1. The organic body of Christ, the kingdom relationships we have, where there appear men in our lives who are seasoned and there’s an automatic elder/young relationship (that’s how it is here)… and 2. Where a person attends a church group and they have their elder in a more organized fashion as you mentioned…. that help?
Nothing brings definition to this like God’s Word as you know…. and notice how it begins with “The elders which are AMONG you”….
“The elders which are among you I exhort, who am also an elder, and a witness of the sufferings of Christ, and also a partaker of the glory that shall be revealed: 2 Feed the flock of God which is among you, taking the oversight thereof, not by constraint, but willingly; not for filthy lucre, but of a ready mind; 3 Neither as being lords over God’s heritage, but being ensamples to the flock. 4 And when the chief Shepherd shall appear, ye shall receive a crown of glory that fadeth not away. 5 Likewise, ye younger, submit yourselves unto the elder. Yea, all of you be subject one to another, and be clothed with humility: for God resisteth the proud, and giveth grace to the humble. 6 Humble yourselves therefore under the mighty hand of God, that he may exalt you in due time:” 1 Peter 5:1-6
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Viewing Charlie Kirk Through the Eyes of God’s Word [podcast]

Did Charlie Kirk do more for Christ than many of those who have become preoccupied with condemning him?
“The world shall rejoice”
Some people (even some falsely claiming to be Christians) rejoice when others, when Christians die.
“Verily, verily, I say unto you, That ye shall weep and lament, but the world shall rejoice: and ye shall be sorrowful, but your sorrow shall be turned into joy.” John 16:20
Earlier in this very chapter Jesus foretold that the way they hated and persecuted Him, so shall they do to you, His followers. Take a look:
“These things have I spoken unto you, that ye should not be offended. 2 They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service. 3 And these things will they do unto you, because they have not known the Father, nor me.” John 16:1-3
Sorting things out…
IF someone sees a NON-essential issue, such as the Charlie Kirk issue, differently than you see it, that does not make them unsaved. Get a clue and get over yourself. Dare we cause division in the body of Christ based on things NOT essential to salvation!?
“Who art thou that judgest another man’s servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand. 5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.” Romans 14:3-4
Nothing the haters of Charlie Kirk can say undoes, negates the preaching of God’s Word Kirk did. Just before he was murdered he declared that “It’s ALL about Jesus!” and “Jesus died so we could live.”
Charlie died as a young man and didn’t have the seasoning and experience of 40-, 50-, 60- or 70-year-olds. He had been misled in some ways and yet it seems he finished in the faith. The more of his videos one may watch, the more this may become evident. Yet, either way, the way we view him is no essential to salvation. The way we view and believe or disbelieve Jesus Christ IS essential to salvation.
Earlier today, a man told me to “repent” for seeing this Charlie Kirk issue differently than he sees it. So, it seems he is acting in the place of God, being his own god, to whom everyone around him must bow down and serve. Seems that anyone who doesn’t see everything the way he does, in his corrupted self-serving mind, needs to repent. There was no sin he cited that I committed so, what should I repent for? For seeing something different than he sees it?
He cared more about his own opinion than the body of Christ for which Jesus died and rose again. Read Romans 14. There is liberty in things NOT essential to salvation. This week I have unfriended and blocked several people who are out of control with their seeking to violate the liberty the LORD gives to each of His saints in NON-essentials.
“Behold, how good and how pleasant it is for brethren to dwell together in unity!” Psalms 133:1
“Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.” Ephesians 4:3
Jesus commanded that we “LOVE one another” and that’s what the true remnant of Christ will do (John 13:34).
“By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.” John 13:15
Walking in God’s love does not lead us to violate the God-given individual liberty of other of His children whom He died to save. Do you understand what is taught in Romans 14?
God is and will continue to use the death of Charlie Kirk for His own glory and the Almighty didn’t need you or your puny permission to do so.
If Charlie Kirk didn’t often speak God’s Word, how is it then that now after his death, scores of people are coming forth saying they are now seeking God as a result of what was spoken out of the mouth of Charlie Kirk?
It seems that there are some among us who would rather see people go to hell than for God to dare use Charlie Kirk’s life to save those people’s souls.
As usual there are many conflicting theories including that CK faked his death …. I don’t have all the answers…. do you? What does Deuteronomy 29:29 tell us?
Just before he was murdered, Charlie Kirk posted the following statement: “Jesus defeated death so you could live.”
“This is being said in love. There are people on here who probably should step back and do a lot more reading of the word of God and praying and a lot less talking and posting. I’m seeing way too much strife, pride, slander, bearing false witness, unrighteous judgment, hypocrisy, and in some cases hatred. None of those things bring glory to the Lord Jesus Christ.” Gloria
God gave us two ears and just one mouth – so we do more listening (to Him and others) than speaking.
“Wherefore, my beloved brethren, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath: 20 For the wrath of man worketh not the righteousness of God.” James 1:19-20
“Charlie Kirk’s death is shaking the church. In more then one way, some are revealing spotted hearts, others are being humbled & coming to repentance. Whatever you think of his politics, he was not ashamed of Christ. He boldly declared his faith to millions! Charlie absolutely died in the faith. Pause and recognize this.
This is not about Trump, MAGA, False Trump prophets, NAR or politics—it is about whether we will love the brethren in spite of our differences and humble ourselves before God. If anyone says, ‘I love God,’ and hates his brother, he is a liar (1 John 4:20). This is a test of the heart.
Don’t let yourself be too distracted with rabbit holes, conspiracies, and opinions of man to miss this moment in your own heart. ‘God resists the proud but gives grace to the humble’ (James 4:6).
This is not a call to civil uprising against the Left—God forbid! it is a call for repentance in the Church (starting in my own heart first). This doesn’t mean you have to follow MAGA, or stop using critical thinking.” Robin Figtree
The WORD of God he spoke shattered and will continue to destroy the lies told in our generation. There’s no denying this. God even uses donkeys to speak His Word and the effect is the same because it’s GOD’s Word (Numbers 22). Isaiah 55:11 ….. Nothing can undo that Word of God he spoke by which sinners are saved, born again (1 Peter 1:23).
“Charlie Kirk was faithful unto death. He stood boldly against abortion, LGBT indoctrination, and Islam’s denial of Jesus Christ. For lifting up the Gospel he was martyred in front of his family. He finished his race and will receive the crown of life (Revelation 2:10).
Is Charlie’s life and death not galvanizing many to overcome the fear of man and preach Christ’s Gospel?
True & False Disciples: Many will say ‘Lord, Lord,’ pointing to works and miracles, but Jesus will say, ‘I never knew you; depart, ye that work iniquity.’
Two Foundations: The wise build on the rock by hearing and doing Jesus’s words. The foolish build on sand , hearing but not obeying, and their fall is great.”
The Shaking of Our Time
Hebrews 12 says God is shaking all things. We are seeing the separation between those who endure in Christ and those who walk in Balaam’s compromis.
Charlie Kirk HAD FLAWED DOCTRINE & Limited understanding but chose bold faith.
Only those who build on the Rock — hearing and obeying Jesus’s words — will endure the storm and stand WITH CROWNS in the FINAL judgment.
Final Word:
Claiming the name of Jesus isn’t enough. Works and ministries aren’t enough. Obedience, endurance, and faithfulness unto death are required (Revelation 2:10, Matthew 24:13).
“The question is not: Do you say ‘Lord, Lord’? The question is: Are you building on the Rock or the sand?” Glenn Langohr
“For those who say Charlie didn’t share the gospel, of which I could share multiple videos of him doing such, I think this is about as close as it gets! ‘Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.’ 1 Corinthians 12:3 KJV.” Stacy Strother
Having limited knowledge, that is my opinion on it….. the truth he spoke cannot be unspoken nor minimalized and it lives on.
I’ve actually exposed this on a post on the ministry site safeguardyoursoul.com ….. yet IMO it seems Kirk, being only 31, didn’t understand many things and erred … yet that does not negate the fact that he did boldly declare the Word of God.
“There are videos of Charlie Kirk rebuking Catholicism for praying to Mary etc and rebuking Mormonism. Charlie Kirk was ignorant of much on sound doctrine for sure. But was he faithful to what GOD called him to do?” Glenn Langohr
This seems to reveal that Charlie Kirk didn’t understand with any depth what is “the faith” of the Gospel. He was learning. Did you understand everything in God’s Word and about the false religions before you grew in the Word? As a young Christian, I thought the mormons were Christians and later found out that was false. Even if all these evil things about Charlie Kirk are true, NOTHING negates, diminishes that he spoke God’s Word on many occasions.
The vilest of demon possessed psychopaths are celebrating the death of Charlie Kirk. Why would they do such if Charlie Kirk made no impact for the LORD? They wouldn’t.
There are some people who HATE Charlie Kirk…. but just remember, it doesn’t matter if it’s a man or a donkey, if the Word of God is coming out of their mouth, it’s still the Word of God. In Numbers 22 God used a donkey to speak to and warn Balaam. No one can deny that Charlie Kirk spoke God’s Word. If a person denies such, you know you are 1). dealing with a person who just hasn’t seen it with their own eyes, or 2). a dishonest person who has an agenda.
“So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.” Isaiah 55:11
To a man whose feelings were hurt by the straight talk of Charlie Kirk, the following reply was given:
Only a moral coward would object to a man speaking the truth straight. Too many pansies flying around these days, pretending to be men of God. Not. Read Matthew 23. Would you call Christ’s apostle Paul a man of God, of truth, or man full of “hate speech”?
Here’s what Paul said to a false prophecy:
“And said, O full of all subtilty and all mischief, THOU CHILD OF THE DEVIL, thou enemy of all righteousness, wilt thou not cease to pervert the right ways of the Lord?” Acts 13:10
“Thou therefore endure hardness, as a good soldier of Jesus Christ.” 2 Timothy 2:3
“Watch ye, stand fast in the faith, quit (act!) you like men, be strong.” 1 Corinthians 16:13
When a man truly repents, he will fear God and the LORD will give him a steel spine.
Charlie Kirk’s advice to a young man who asked:
- Read your Bible.
- Do what it says.
- Tell others what the Bible says
Does this murder principally resemble Cain and Abel?
“And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD. 2 And she again bare his brother Abel. And Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground. 3 And in process of time it came to pass, that Cain brought of the fruit of the ground an offering unto the LORD. 4 And Abel, he also brought of the firstlings of his flock and of the fat thereof. And the LORD had respect unto Abel and to his offering: 5 But unto Cain and to his offering he had not respect. And Cain was very wroth, and his countenance fell. 6 And the LORD said unto Cain, Why art thou wroth? and why is thy countenance fallen? 7 If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him. 8 And Cain talked with Abel his brother: and it came to pass, when they were in the field, that Cain rose up against Abel his brother, and slew him.” Genesis 4:1-8
Cain murdered his brother Abel out of jealousy and resentment. His (Cain’s) life was not going well due to doing things his own way instead of God’s way. So he was in darkness and miserable and therefore became jealously enraged that his brother’s life was flourishing and full of life due to Abel serving God on God’s terms (Matthew 6:33).
Keep in mind that at just 31 years old, Charlie Kirk had built a movement that is worldwide and of enormous proportions of influence over young people in particular. There would seem to be lots to be jealous of if one is sulking in, living in sin.
We do know that “There is no new thing under the sun” (Ecclesiastes 1:9). Could this same scenario have played out between Charlie Kirk and his killer? What kind of evil drove Kirk’s murderer to plan and go climb upon a roof and wait hours to murder his fellow man?
One overview of the Murder of Abel by his brother Cain goes as such:
It would seem apparent that Satan wanted Charlie Kirk killed due to Charlie boldly proclaiming parts of the Word of God. That alone does not mean Charlie was saved and/or doing things God’s way in all the areas of his thinking or organization. But one thing is certain, Kirk did declare God’s Word at times and no matter the human source, the human communicator, it’s still the Word of God and was reaching millions (Isaiah 55:11). Charlie was a bold statesman-like figure with communication giftings that were profound.
Cain killed Abel due to jealousy and resentment after God accepted Abel’s offering but rejected Cain’s, which God found to be of lesser quality and gratitude. Although the Bible doesn’t explicitly state the exact motivation, Cain became depressed and took his anger out on Abel, leading to the first murder.
The Biblical Account
- The Offerings: Cain, a farmer, and Abel, a shepherd, both presented offerings to God.
- Rejection of Cain’s Offering: Abel offered the “first and fattest sheep of his flock” while Cain offered “some of his poorer crops.” God accepted Abel’s offering but rejected Cain’s.
- Cain’s Anger: Cain became very angry and depressed after God rejected his offering.
- The Murder: Cain met Abel in a field and murdered him, taking out his anger on his brother.
Why Cain was Jealous
- God’s Acceptance: Cain was jealous that Abel’s offering was accepted and his was not.
- Pride and Resentment: Cain’s pride was wounded, and he resented God’s righteous judgment.
Interpretations
- Jealousy as the motive:
Many interpreters, including ancient exegetes like Josephus, believe that jealousy was the primary cause for the murder.
Those who do things their own way instead of God’s, are full of misery and pent up resentment and therefore jealousy of those who do things God’s way which always brings blessings to their lives. This was the case with Cain and likely the case with Charlie Kirk’s killer.
Like Cain, who was jealous of Abel and therefore murdered him in cold blood, could it be that there are those who are jealous of the influence, the diligence and success of Charlie Kirk who are now assassinating him with their heart hatred and the words of their mouths? Could that be the reason many are taking their hatred public against him, after he’s been murdered? Notice how these same people have no joy for the fact that Charlie Kirk did preach some of God’s Word and it did and is reaching many.
“What then? notwithstanding, every way, whether in pretence, or in truth, Christ is preached; and I therein do rejoice, yea, and will rejoice.” Philippians 1:18
So yes, Paul rejoices that Christ was preached which Charlie did much of the time and yet Charlie did speak some things that are not true……
Does Satan care if only half the things you say are Bible truth? No. If the 50% of truth you preach, it’s still the Word and getting planted in the hearts of men who need God…..
Charlie was once asked a pretty wild question:
“If I had 30 seconds to live, I’m dying of a gunshot wound, what would you actually want to tell me?”
Charlie Kirk told the man that he must repent and receive Christ as his LORD and Savior.
SUMMATION: i don’t sense in CK an intentionally evil heart…. misled by others, those older than him, yes but having a heart determined to be or work evil? I don’t see it. I have seen and heard Charlie boldly, clearly state too much biblical truth to believe he is intentionally believing other things that are error.
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Of Charlie Kirk, brother Glenn Langohr writes:
“Charlie Kirk’s voice reached millions. He defended God’s covenant of marriage, the duty of men to provide, and stood against abortion — fighting demonic powers that shed innocent blood (Ps 106:37–38, Gen 4:10). He resisted LGBT propaganda corrupting the young, standing like a watchman. For this, we give God glory and remember him as a man used in significant ways.
But friends, Charlie also had errors. He confessed he ‘cringes’ at street preachers, yet Jesus Himself came preaching ‘Repent or perish’ (Luke 13:3) and commanded, ‘Go into all the world and preach the gospel” (Mark 16:15). Paul declared, ‘God commands all men everywhere to repent”'(Acts 17:30). Street preaching is God’s pattern (Jer 7, Acts 5, 1 Cor 1:18–21). To belittle it is to misunderstand the very tool God uses to save.
Charlie was also misled by Jack Hibbs’ Pre-Tribulation rapture teaching, which Scripture refutes. Paul warns: ‘Let no man deceive you… that day shall not come except there come a falling away first, and the man of sin be revealed’ (2 Thess 2:3). Daniel 12 calls endurance to 1,335 days ‘blessed’. Revelation 20 says those beheaded for Jesus will reign with Him 1,000 years. The Church will face Antichrist’s persecution before Jesus returns. Charlie finished his course as a martyr, but we must carry on, warning: Only those who endure to the end shall be saved (Matt 24:13).”
He said a lot of good, Bible based things…. WHY would anyone argue with that part?
Many a celebrity has claimed to be Christian yet never spoke the Word of God publicly perhaps for fear of it hurting their career, their money. Such was not the case with Charlie Kirk. He spoke boldly and often about Christ Jesus and His Gospel.
One saint of Christ notes the following:
“The amount of deception with his (Kirk’s) death is shocking!! Everyone seems to be an expert at what they think he believed.”
The hatred of professing Christians against Charlie Kirk is a concern (1 John 3:14-15).
We should be busy about our Father’s business right? Some seem to be wasting their time nit picking Charlie Kirk, feeling like that MUST weigh in on him instead of letting God handle what is in HIS hands (Deuteronomy 29:29).
WHY would satan’s people hate him so much if he didn’t spread the Gospel, the Word to some degree?
“I was an atheist, and this event made me realize I had been asking the wrong questions. I’m going to church tomorrow to pray for Charlie’s family, and I want to learn about Christ and what made Charlie so courageous to risk his life and spread the gospel. Seeing those who celebrate and are justifying his death proved evil is real, and the only way to fight back is with grace and faith. Charlie did not die in vain. He didn’t deserve this, but his courage and faith live on. Rest in peace, Charlie Kirk.” Michael Choi
I was critical of his pumping of the pope…. and his seeming lean toward ecumenism and yet Charlie Kirk did speak God’s Word strongly at times…..I choose to rejoice at that. I saw a guy in his 40s interviewed yesterday, in tears for Charlie Kirk’s death…. he said he was a life long atheist but Charlie Kirk and how he spoke, brought the man to Christ. Also Paul rejoiced that the Gospel was preached even when preached by mixed bags with bad motives even amen Phil 1. God knows all. “What then? notwithstanding, every way, whether in pretence, or in truth, Christ is preached; and I therein do rejoice, yea, and will rejoice.” Philippians 1:18
If Paul did, shouldn’t we, Christ’s disciples today rejoice when the Gospel is preached – regardless of who is speaking the words of God?
Yes and yet God is God
“Philippians 1:15-16
Some indeed preach Christ out of contention – Envying Paul’s success, and striving to hurt him thereby. Not sincerely – From a real desire to glorify God. But supposing – Though they were disappointed. To add more affliction to my bonds – By enraging the Romans against me.” John Wesley
“1:15 The motive in some hearts was jealousy and rivalry. They preached Christ out of envy and contentiousness.
Others had sincere and pure motives; they preached Christ from good will, in an honest effort to help the apostle.
1:16 The jealous preachers thought that by doing this they might make Paul’s imprisonment more bitter. Their message was good, but their temper was bad. It is sad to think that Christian service can be carried on in the energy of the flesh, motivated by greed, strife, pride, and envy. This teaches the necessity for watching our motives when we serve the Lord. We must not do it for self-display, for the advancement of a religious sect, or for the defeat of other Christians. Here is a good example of the necessity for our love to be exercised in knowledge and discernment. 1:17 Others were preaching the gospel out of pure and sincere love, knowing that Paul was determined to defend the gospel. There was nothing selfish, sectarian, or cruel in their service. They knew very well that Paul had been committed to prison because of his bold stand for the gospel. So they determined to carry on the work while he was thus confined. 1:18 Paul refuses to be downcast by the wrong motives of some. Christ is being preached by both groups, and that is for him a great cause for rejoicing.
It is remarkable that under such difficult circumstances, Paul does not feel sorry for himself or seek the sympathy of others. Rather he is filled with the joy of the Lord and encourages his readers to rejoice also.” Believer’s Bible Commentary
“Charlie because of you, I’m going back to church!! Thank you.” Laura
“Charlie’s departure from earth is evidence that his message was effective and darkness cannot stand the light . RIP Charlie Kirk.” Jane
“I’m going to church on Sunday due to this beautiful man.” Matt
“I’m old enough to be Charlie’s father but he inspired me and taught me some things I researched to confirm truth. He was brilliant, highly educated and a national treasure. He’s w/Jesus Christ Jesus now. They can only threaten us w/heaven.” Veteran
“Charlie brought me closer to Jesus. The pain I’m feeling from his death is indescribable. I’ve never met him, but I learned so much from him, I learned truth. The boldness in him is now released into us. Gen z, this is God putting it into our face that life is short, life is a mission to glorify God. It’s time to fully live for Jesus, and speak truth in boldness like Charlie. I truly love him, he helped transform my heart from stone to flesh. I spent so much time listening to him, getting to know him. This pain is weighing heavy, he is such a pure light, someone who’s very rare to find. I’m so blessed to have listened to him during my life, thank You God for putting him in our lives. Mission well served. Rip faithful servant.” unknown
So personally I don’t feel the need to try to prognosticate who goes to Heaven or not in general… by the fruit it is obvious with some and not with others, as in this case right
Ah yes does it not glorify satan instead of Jesus when at this critical hour in HIS-story we have fightings within….
Instead of simply obeying our LORD who is God and has everything under His Almighty control? Right
“From whence come wars and fightings among you? come they not hence, even of your lusts that war in your members?” James 4:1
The way I see this is …..The fact that “Christians” are idolizing him doesn’t change the facts though right
That is not his fault.
He seemed to be very humble actually and didn’t seek to unduly draw attn to himself
And that’s the consistent testimony of others who knew him
We know him by his own fruit right, not the fruit of those who sinfully seeking to elevate him “above that which is written of men” right 2 Cor 4:6
Matthew 24:14 we are His ambassadors to preach His glorious Gospel and leave the God things to God right 😉
This headline is a lie: “TRANS Radicalism Responsible For Charlie Kirk’s Death.” That’s an intentional misdirection. The evil doers, satan’s children, who authored and perpetrated the “trans radicalism” to destroy the world, are the ones who murdered Charlie Kirk. Kirk had the God-given right to freedom of speech. I did not agree with some things he has said and have published those concerns. But Jesus and His apostles never forwarded the Gospel message by violence, by murdering those who differed.
“Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.” John 18:36
What was done to Charlie Kirk was the same thing John Calvin did in Geneva, Switzerland to over 60 people who disagreed with him.
“the devil … He was a murderer from the beginning”
“Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.” John 8:44
MESSAGE FROM SINNER CONCERNING CHARLIE KIRK:
“But still your God does nothing.. it didn’t even stop a person in his best interests from being killed?? Either God is weak and the devil is in control or none of them exist. The more likely observation is, that they don’t exist.”
REPLY:
Friend, sinner, if God didn’t exist, neither would you. You sound like the darkened souls who stood at the foot of the cross when Jesus was dying for their sins, our sins….. they taunted “And the people stood beholding. And the rulers also with them derided him, saying, He saved others; let him save himself, if he be Christ, the chosen of God.” (Luke 23:35) He ultimate victory would come from His death, which of necessity had to precede His burial and resurrection. Jesus is alive. This is the victory that God ordained and at times He allows His people also to die a natural death and out of it His triumph comes. God sees all of your sins and will save, will forgive all your sins if you will heed His simple message to repent and believe upon Christ. Your life will never be right, your heart will never be happy until you do so. I am living proof of that! Jesus is coming.
“For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened (made alive thereafter, raised up, resurrected) by the Spirit:” 1 Peter 3:18
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The Eternal Danger of Trusting Mere Men [podcast]

Idol Shepherds Abounding!
The LORD is Holy and will not share His glory with any other.
“I am the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images.” Isaiah 42:8
Your favorite pastor, evangelist or teacher among men is “at his best state … altogether vanity” (Psalms 39:5). God be thanked for the life of every true servant elder and yet they are mere men. God did not send His only begotten Son to die and be buried and raised again to make you a good church member or fan of a mere man who is supposed to be a servant leader. Jesus came to take away our sins, make us new creatures so we could know Him and His Father – and serve them and not man (John 1:29; 17:3; 1 Corinthians 7:23). We are each called to “know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death” (Philippians 3:10). Let’s read the whole verse: “That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death” (Philippians 3:10).
RAVI ZACHARIAS is just another pawn of Satan whom gullible dupes clung to, they hung to his every word. He rarely even mentioned the cardinal doctrines of the Christian faith – the holiness of God, the precious blood of Jesus, the crucified life, repentance, etc.. Why did they cling to him, a mere man? They were unrepentant and therefore weren’t choosing to truly worship, seek the face of, love and obey Christ. The vacuum left by their idolatry facilitated their delusion. Then Ravi died in sin. When you love the LORD, truly, you love and devour HIS Word, daily. Read 2 Thessalonians 2:9-12.
“LORD, make me to know mine end, and the measure of my days, what it is; that I may know how frail I am. 5 Behold, thou hast made my days as an handbreadth; and mine age is as nothing before thee: verily every man at his best state is altogether vanity. Selah. 6 Surely every man walketh in a vain shew: surely they are disquieted in vain: he heapeth up riches, and knoweth not who shall gather them. 7 And now, Lord, what wait I for? MY HOPE IS IN THEE.” Psalms 39:4-7
When O When will we truly repent and genuinely follow JESUS, pouring over and hanging on HIS every Word – from Genesis to Revelation? Isn’t that why He gave us HIS Word, the Bible? (2 Timothy 3:16-17; 2 Peter 1:19-21)
“And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.” John 17:3
“But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.” 20:31
“Thus saith the LORD; Cursed be the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the LORD.” Jeremiah 17:5
The ministries of mere men are not an end in themselves.
They are called to simply teach God’s Word itself – and to get you into God’s Word daily for yourself.
Notice how the apostle Paul reveals how the disciples at Thessalonica “received the word of God.”
“For this cause also thank we God without ceasing, because, when YE RECEIVED THE WORD OF GOD which ye heard of us, ye received it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the word of God, which effectually worketh also in you that believe.” 1 Thessalonians 2:13
“Ye received the word of God – Ye received the doctrine of God, not as any thing fabricated by man, but as coming immediately from God himself, we being only his messengers to declare what he had previously revealed to us. And ye have had the fullest proof that ye have not believed in vain; for that doctrine, under the power and influence of the Holy Ghost, has worked most powerfully in you, filling you with light, life, and holiness.” Adam Clarke
They were “taught of God”, not men (1 Thessalonians 4:9).
The ministries of the servants of God are merely designed to get you to discern ….. and to get into God’s Word FOR YOURSELF – to study to show your own self approved unto God! (Acts 17:10-11)
” And the brethren immediately sent away Paul and Silas by night unto Berea: who coming thither went into the synagogue of the Jews. 11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so. Acts 17:10-11
“For this cause also thank we God without ceasing, because, when ye received the word of God which ye heard of us, ye received it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the word of God, which effectually worketh also in you that believe.” 1 Thessalonians 2:13
YOU do it.
“Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.” 2 Timothy 2:15
The lazy, those who don’t truly love the LORD are being eliminated as goats. This all comes on the heels of their refusal to seek God…. and study His own Word.
No, instead the idolaters of mere men will read and listen to endless messages by mere men, their favorite preachers, mere men. They then bond with those mere men, there is an unnatural soul-tie created.
“Cease ye from man, whose breath is in his nostrils: for wherein is he to be accounted of?” Isaiah 2:22
“Isaiah 2:19-22 People will seek for shelter wherever they can hide. It will be clear then that fleeting man is unworthy of trust. Only the Lord is worthy of the undivided confidence of His people.” Believer’s Bible Commentary
“Cease ye – Never admire or place your trust in man. Breath – Whose breath is quickly stopped and taken away. Wherein – What excellency is in him, considered in himself, and without dependence on God?” John Wesley
“Cease ye from man – Trust neither in him, nor in the gods that he has invented. Neither he, nor they, can either save or destroy.” Adam Clarke
The church world is full of wolves in sheep’s clothing. The list of “idol shepherd(s)“ is long…. Here is but a sampling:
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4,500 JESUS Tracts have been Hand-Delivered !

These JESUS tracts in Spanish have been handed out person to person with the love of God and the Word of God spoken to the recipients in Spanish!
You have integrally participated in this mission by your prayers and support. We are not finished yet saints.
“WE are labourers TOGETHER with God.” 1 Corinthians 3:9
Saints, you are the ones who make this possible – by your prayers and support. There is no support from any church, ministry, or corporate support. Individual disciples support this work.
FYI: I also help support this work financially in a limited fashion and yet there’s kingdom opportunity for more saints to participate. There are less than 10 saints monthly who support this work financially. God be praised for their participation in our LORD’s Great Commission work (Matthew 28:18-20; Mark 16:15-20). Jesus is coming and remember, Jesus says “No man, having put his hand to the plough, and looking back, is fit for the kingdom of God.” (Luke 9:62).
God be praised that nearly 4,500 JESUS tracts in Spanish have been distributed in Mexico thus far – with a personal touch, a speaking of the Word of God in Spanish to the recipients.
This week I am going to be speaking with a local printer to get another 1,500 printed or 2,500, depending on what resources come in.
The following words of our LORD are specifically spoken to and the grand opportunity and responsibility of the saints in the earth now in this last hour before Christ’s return.
“And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.” Matthew 24:14
Reprinting the JESUS tract is at hand. New supply needed. A grand kingdom opportunity is before each of us in this mission.
“Glory hallelujah! God is sure blessing you and the ministry for your faithfulness to Him! And we who pray and support rejoice with you for His Word going out among the beautiful people of Mexico! And we know His Word will not return void but will accomplish that which He set it out to do. Isaiah 55:11.” Tom and Karen Cochran
In general the prices are higher where I am now. $300 should take care of 1,500 copies of the JESUS tract.
Feel free to participate clicking on the Support button on here on safeguardyoursoul.com Takes seconds to contribute.
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