Was Charles Stanley true or false? WHERE is Charles Stanley?
“One of the most troubling problems within the church today is the unwavering loyalty to a ‘christian’ personality rather than to Christ and His Word. The unwillingness to test every man’s teaching with God’s Word, coupled with a stubborn lack of discernment, produces fertile ground for deception to flourish.” Evangeline DiChristi
LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT…So this evil heretic, Charles Stanley, spent his whole life on earth lying to people, peddling SATAN’s first DAMNING lie (OSAS), sending many to eternal damnation with his heresies, telling people homosexuality – an “abomination” to God – will not keep them from Heaven, etc., and yet we can’t know where Charles Stanley is? What kind of a truth-despising counterfeit would possibly claim this man went to Heaven? See Leviticus 18:22. Sounds like some folks who believe they are saved are fully deceived in that conclusion. It’s time to repent before it’s too late. You’ve called the Almighty a liar which makes you a hell bound liar (Revelation 21:8). Repent or perish.
THIS WEEK several, including long time “friends” unfriended me due to declaring that every false teacher is going to hell, with no exception – and that’s where Charles Stanley is presumably – due to his decision to be the enemy of Christ by teaching contrary to His Word for decades (2 Peter 2:1-3). No apology. I believe 100% he’s there and there’s good Bible reason for it. There is no Bible reason for any false teacher to go to Heaven. Repent now.
The truth of God alone will destroy the delusions. This blessing only happens in those who will humble themselves before the Almighty and truly, sincerely search out, listen to, believe, and take Him at His Word. KJB (2 Timothy 2:15-3:16-17).
Charles Stanley now knows the damning eternal security/osas lie he perpetrated against the counsel of the Almighty was false. Like Cain, Charles Stanley chose his own way, to do things his own way instead of God’s. He led many into deception and the ditch of eternal destruction. Do you pretend to love God and yet dare show more respect to this vile enemy of Christ than Christ Himself and those millions he deceived?
People have created such soul ties with mere men and therefore when those idols are exposed they erupt into a fury.
“Verily every man at his BEST state is altogether vanity. Selah.” Psalms 39:5
“According to Galatians 1:8-9, Charles Stanley was ‘accursed.’ Sadly, I have a friend grieving over the loss of Charles Stanley and in her rebellion against God, she will not listen to truth. Charles Stanley preached ‘another gospel.'” A Disciple
REPENT when there’s no reason to? After all, Charles Stanley taught and fully believed and was turned over by God Himself to this eternal security lie (2 Thessalonians 2:10-12). SO, what makes us think he would repent in the end when he believed he had no accountability, no personally responsibility to repent because in his own deliberately delusional mind he’s “once saved always saved”? Right?
OSAS / eternal security is a lie from hell embraced by moral cowards who refuse to truly repent, deny themselves, take up the cross daily and follow Jesus for real (Luke 9:23-24).
WHY O WHY would it be difficult to believe that God is going to damn to hell His enemies? Wow. HAVE YOU had an enemy? Specifically, has anyone ever lied about you? Has anyone ever told lies about you? If so, were they in good standing with you? No. Now, think about the nature of the lawless lies Charles Stanley told against God all of his natural life. What if they lied about you for a long time? What if they lied about you for your whole life? Would they be in right standing with you? No. Let’s wake up. God will justly damn the souls of every “false prophet” and “false teacher,” and He has told us just that (2 Peter 2:1-3). If you don’t believe this biblical truth and make concession for sinful evil wolves, this clearly proves you do not love nor fear God and are an idolater of mere men and cursed (Jeremiah 17:5). Laughable. Sinful. Foolish. Damning. Repent now.
“Undoubtedly. Few are even willing to call them (the false teachers) out! A good example is Charles Stanley. He preached the false OSAS doctrine and refused to call out false teachers. Even his own son was not taught to be discerning. Andy teaches many damnable hersesies including preaching that homosexuality is not a sin and they are welcome in his ‘church’, even in leadership positions. Instead Charles befriended many of these false teachers (including Billy Graham)! Sad but he will certainly be held accountable by God. We MUST tell the truth in love! Whether people want to hear it or not. It is a command of Jesus to spread the Good News uncompromisingly to ALL. It is not a pick and choose/ buffet choice matter. We must share the whole saving Gospel of Salvation and Repentance without leaving anything out!” Barbara
Are Christ’s disciples to judge sin in our midst? YES!
“Judge righteous judgment.” John 7:24
“For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? 13 But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.” 1 Corinthians 5:12-13
“Open Rebuke” vs “Secret Love”
“Open rebuke is better than secret love. Faithful are the wounds of a friend; but the kisses of an enemy are deceitful.” Proverbs 27:5-6
Recently a man was publicly preaching Satan’s OSAS lie. In an “open rebuke” to him I replied:
“(his name) <<< is a moral coward who hides behind lies because he won’t repent for real, man-up, die to self, live the crucified life, and walk in the light with Christ who is HOLY and returning for His true Church which is “a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish” (Ephesians 5:27; Luke 9:23-24; 1 John 1:7). And (the man’s name) is a diabolical heretic for perpetrating the first lie ever told to man by SATAN which caused the fall of man – irrefutably (Genesis 2:17; 3:4). Time to repent sinner, and cease making excuse for your sins (Proverbs 28:13).”
“That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.” Ephesians 5:27
These defenders of Charles Stanley, a man who profusely promulgated the satanic doctrine of devils of OSAS prove they are on Satan’s side and have made themselves the enemies of Christ.
These OSAS counterfeits have lied against the LORD, they have “belied the LORD”:
“They have belied the LORD, and said, It is not he; neither shall evil come upon us; neither shall we see sword nor famine:” Jeremiah 5:12
“Hebrew for belied ‘kaw-khash’
A primitive root; to be untrue, in word (to lie, feign, disown) or deed (to disappoint, fail, cringe): – deceive, deny, dissemble, fail, deal falsely, be found liars, (be-) lie, lying, submit selves.”
MANY of the OSAS defenders are pitiful pansies (dishonest moral cowards) who refuse to repent, deny self, take up the cross daily, and follow Jesus in the crucified life He mandates for anyone who will truly know and follow Him (Luke 9:23-24). This is why they fiercely defend demonic wolves like Charles Stanley, an enemy of Christ who preached this doctrine of devils.
Demons and their doctrines, “doctrines of devils” are inseparably married – 1 Timothy 4:1-2. If OSAS isn’t a doctrine of devils, there’s no such thing as a doctrine “of devils.” Yet the Bible uses these very words and so we know that ANY person who believe the satanic lie of OSAS has demons. It doesn’t matter if they believe this or not – they have demons.
“Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; 2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;” 1 Timothy 4:1-2
Did you notice that departing from the faith is specifically included as a doctrine of devils here in this passage above?
God uses heresies to divide between the authentic and the fake (mere professors).
“For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you.” 1 Corinthians 11:19
Jesus came and gave us His truth in order to clearly separate… a sword separates – divides.
“Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.” Matthew 10:34
The truth is the occasion of division – between those who are truly of God and those who aren’t. See John 8:47.
Homosexuals in Heaven? No! Leviticus 18:22… and some people claiming to be following Jesus are viciously attacking me for stating the Biblically obvious. | God says homosexuality is an “abomination” to Him (Leviticus 18:22). | Charles Stanley said homosexuals will be in Heaven.
IF Biblical truth destroys your delusions, why not just get happy and thank God? Didn’t He inform us that He gave us His Word to do just that – for “correction” or correcting us? Boom (2 Timothy 3:16-17).
My personal conviction is to preach the Bible with no human reasoning. I fear for the eternal soul of anyone teaching that doctrine of devils.
Charles Stanley is dead and in hell. He now knows the damning eternal security/osas lie he perpetrated against the counsel of the Almighty was false. He made a lot of money doing it.
Like Cain, Stanley chose his own way, to do things his own way instead of God’s. He led many into deception and the ditch of eternal destruction.
THE ONLY REASON A PERSON WOULD BELIEVE THAT CHARLES STANLEY IS WITH GOD IN HEAVEN IS THAT SUCH A PERSON LOVES HIMSELF AND A MERE MAN, A SINNER (CHARLES STANLEY) MORE THAN JESUS…..
LAUGHABLE IF IT WEREN’T SO PITIFUL: Contrast the fact that the Berean disciples tested the LORD’s apostle Paul against the Word of God and now we have biblically-illiterate dupes who are defending a known, blatant demonic operative named Charles Stanley. They refuse to honestly test this wolf against Holy Scripture.
“And the brethren immediately sent away Paul and Silas by night unto Berea: who coming thither went into the synagogue of the Jews. 11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.” Acts 17:10-11
“Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try (test) the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.” 1 John 4:1
The wicked among us are digging their way into hell… “they dig into hell” (Amos 9:2).
“I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.” Luke 13:3
Tares prove their own counterfeit status when they love and defend the lies the false prophets peddle. They “love to have it so.”
“The prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests bear rule by their means ($); and my people love to have it so: and what will ye do in the end thereof?” Jeremiah 5:31
Many have created a soul tie with the famous personalities of “ministries” in apostate America. They love the lies these people feed them because they themselves have not repented, are not truly serving Christ in the daily cross – which He said is essential or one is not following Him (Luke 9:23-24). So, they will fight viciously to defend the mere man or woman they’ve idolized and have become accustomed to receiving lies from them. They will listen to endless episodes from the wolves that are misleading them and yet do little or nothing to seek the LORD in His own Word. They love to try to protect their delusion they hide behind (Jeremiah 5:31).
“Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine. 3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; 4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.” 2 Timothy 4:2-4
The truth of God destroys the delusions of those who will humble themselves before the Almighty and truly, sincerely search out, listen to, and believe Him at His Word (2 Timothy 2:15-3:16-17 KJB).
Tell HIS truth NO MATTER WHAT saints! (John 17:17; Romans 3:4)
Lynne Parker states:
“What a horrible conclusion and frightening realization regarding Charles Stanley, yet God’s Word states emphatically the end of such false teaching. It should raise a godly fear in us all.”
ANY and all who teach OSAS are liars, false teachers, and headed for hell – with no exception (2 Peter 2:1-3). Repent of the compromise.
Charles Stanley and anyone teaching OSAS is a false teacher and false prophet….OSAS was SATAN’s first teaching, first lie, which led to the fall of mankind and is still damning millions (Genesis 2:17; 3:4). “Heresies” is one of the 17 soul damning sins on the list cited in Galatians 5:19-21. So anyone preaching a lie is going to fry, period. Such a person, such as Charles Stanley, is by biblical definition, a “false teacher.”
OSAS is the first lie ever told and it was told by Satan himself and directly led to the fall of mankind (Genesis 2:17; 3:4). This cannot be refuted. And so anyone teaching or defending in any way this lie is in need of repentance. Their defense of this lie of Satan reveals they are false teachers and on his side, not Christ’s.
Be encouraged to lock this passage in…. whatever you do. We are going to be dealing with biblically-illiterate counterfeits till Jesus returns and you will need this ammo as you “earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.” See Jude 3-4.
The JUDGE has spoken! CAN YOU READ?
AFTER reading 2 Peter 2:1-3 there should be absolutely NO doubt that every “false teacher” and “false prophet” will be going to “damnation.” Boom. Case closed. GOD the JUDGE has spoken. Anyone who questions Him proves to be a child of Satan himself (Genesis 3:1).
God told us specifically that EVERY “false teacher” and “false prophet” will have “DAMNATION” (2 Peter 2:1-3). They are going to hell for lying against the LORD, His Word.
Jude specifically mandates that God’s people earnestly contend against the “ungodly men” who peddle this grace-perverting lie – OSAS (Jude 3-4).
CHARLES STANLEY was a lying devil and in my opinion he is 100% in hell. The Bible makes that crystal clear. You going to call the LORD a liar?
Make Hell Known Again!
Make God’s Word Great Again – in the minds of rebels – “Let God be true and EVERY man a liar” (Romans 3:4). Unbelief is a soul damning sin (Hebrews 3:12-15).
Hell awaits all who die in sin. You’ve been warned.
Repent and follow Jesus daily by the cross life – or get ready to burn.
People prove who they are by how they treat (embrace or reject) the knowledge of God He gave us in His Word.
“He that is OF GOD heareth God’s words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are NOT OF GOD.” John 8:47
When I made this post, and do not apologize for it… it seems more than obvious that this vile enemy of Christ taught his filth all the way to his death AND the very nature of such a lie would not necessitate, would not lead him to truly repent before he drew his last breath.
“(For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ: 19 whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things.)” Philippians 3:18-19
SO, let me get this straight, a man can teach heresies, spit in the face of God for his whole natural life and YET because he called himself a pastor and got millions of people to like and listen to his lies, then he’s going to the Heaven of the holy God whom he deliberately lied about during his earthly whole life? Man you need to get saved if you believe that, sinner! Repent now you vile enemy of the LORD!
Yes, and anyone who reads God’s Word knows that God is “Holy, holy, holy,” and that anyone who dies in sin is going to hell irrevocably. The wages of sin is STILL death (Romans 6:23).
MANY are fighting to defend Satan’s wolves while claiming to be following Jesus! Wow (2 Corinthians 11:12-15).
God has turned them over to “strong delusion” (2 Thessalonians 2:9-12).
The religious industry is big busine$$! (Read 2 Peter 2:1-3; Romans 16:17-18.)
It’s all a big game and you are the prey, the target, the intended victim. Get into God’s Word for yourself and only then will He give you a clue – His truth (Hosea 4:6).
“Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.” 2 Timothy 2:15
Charles Stanley had a huge “call center.” Surely you’re not going to say it was for prayer. No, any ministry that has a large call center is doing so to collect money. Big call center equals big money. Stop the disingenuous dishonesty now!
Defending Satan’s false teachers clearly proves you are on Satan’s side, not Christ’s! Repent now vile antichrist (Matthew 12:30; 2 Corinthians 11:12-15).
“People would rather be comfortable in a lie which is what they tell.” Dana Carter
Yes, they are defending their own rebellion
“For I am the LORD, I change not…” Malachi 3:6
I’m sorry, can someone please explain to us all WHEN God ceases to be “Holy, holy, holy” and when the wages of sin cease to be death? Waiting (Romans 6:23; Isaiah 6:3; Revelation 4:8; Hebrews 12:14).
Unless the Almighty changed, all rebels, every false teacher is immediately in hell upon dying. Period. It’s time to repent and take God at His Word OR cease claiming we know Him whom we are calling a liar if we don’t believe what He plainly stated.
“Let GOD be true and EVERY man a liar.” Romans 3:4
Charles Stanley is not in Heaven. Get a biblical clue! You only want to believe that because you care more about that vile sinner than the LORD you falsely claim to serve!
Those who are not engrossed daily in the Word of God are backslidden and walking in darkness. They are under the power and deception of “Satan” himself because they don’t truly love the LORD, and that’s why they don’t esteem His Word as final divine authority. God told on these rebels in advance so they’d have the opportunity to repent for real and get right with Him before it’s too late. Check this out.
“Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.” 2 Thessalonians 2:9-12
The reason people get so upset about the conclusion that Charles Stanley is in hell is because they themselves are in darkness and don’t want to truly repent, and so they want to believe they are safe and secure. Hell awaits.
“And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.” John 3:19-21
If you knew Jesus, you’d know what He stated in His Word. Yet you don’t because you love darkness rather than light, you love your life in this fleeting world and are on the broad way that leads to destruction (Matthew 7:13-14). IF you are man enough, keep reading.
IF the heart of man is the source of righteousness and unrighteousness (and it is), if you can’t know another man’s heart, to some degree, their spiritual state, WHY O WHY did Jesus command us to “know” (discern) people “by their fruits”? WHY would our LORD instruct us to discern others and “know” them by “fruits” of their life if that’s not what He wanted us to do? And if we are obeying Him by discerning people “by their fruits” are we not going to find some of those people to have bad fruit…..And just WHAT does that bad fruit say of the heart of the person it’s coming out of? Hmmmmm.
When Jesus says “Judge righteous judgment” He’s not speaking of condemning anyone, He’s speaking of discerning them (John 7:24). It’s His place alone to judge those who refuse His salvation plan, not ours (James 1:20). Yet, He, the Judge Himself, commands us to discern, to examine, to “know” others “by their fruits.”
Let’s put a fresh eye on this severe warning of Jesus concerning being a false prophet and discerning false leaders:
“Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. 16 YE SHALL KNOW THEM BY THEIR FRUITS. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? 17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. 19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. 20 Wherefore BY THEIR FRUITS YE SHALL KNOW (discern) them. 21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.” Matthew 7:16-21
TO CLAIM WE CAN’T KNOW WHERE SOMEONE IS WHEN THEY DIE IS TO FALSELY CLAIM…
1. That God didn’t thoroughly address this issue (2 Timothy 3:16-17; 2 Peter 1:3-4).
2. To claim you don’t really know and/or believe God’s Word which means you have called the Almighty a liar and are living in damnable unbelief (Numbers 23:17; Malachi 3:6; Mark 13:31, etc.).
3. To claim that we can’t know these things the LORD has spoken of.
4. Claim to not truly believe what God says which makes you a lost soul.
Gutless moral cowards don’t know God’s Word because they’ve been playing and not truly fearing, obeying, and walking with Christ (John 3:19-21). Counterfeits. This is why they rise up against His truth.
They will be destroyed for lack of knowledge because they’ve rejected His knowledge – His Word. They’ve been too busy chasing the fleeting trinkets of this fallen temporal world.
“My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because THOU HAST REJECTED KNOWLEDGE, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.” Hosea 4:6
So, God told us things in His Word and yet you call Him a liar?
“God is not a man, that he should lie.” Numbers 23:19
SO many among us are living in the flesh out of a carnal, wicked and uncircumcised heart (Jeremiah 4:3-4; 17:5-10; Hosea 10:12; Ephesians 5:25-27; Hebrews 3:12-15; 4:12; 5:11-14, etc.). The circumcising of the heart only transpires in the lives of those who truly love God and therefore diligently study the two edge sword of His Word which circumcises their hearts.
“For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.” Hebrews 4:12
ANY person who doesn’t walk according to God’s written Word “shall be destroyed.” Not only are many who claim to know Christ not agreeing with His Word, they are attacking it, and His messengers who merely put HIS Word forth.
“Whoso despiseth the word shall be destroyed: but he that feareth the commandment shall be rewarded.” Proverbs 13:13
One lady gave the typical cop out of negating the whole counsel of Scripture with the “God knows the heart” excuse. Such are misusing God’s Word and calling God a liar as they ignore what His Word states (2 Corinthians 2:17). Jesus plainly taught that the fruit of a man’s life CLEARLY proves what’s in his heart (Matthew 7:16, 20; 12:34). Regrettably they don’t know this simple truth because they are not disciples, not a man or woman of truth – they are not “valiant for the truth” of God (Jeremiah 9:3). It’s time to get into God’s Word and cease bearing false witness against the LORD.
Where do actions, where does fruit flow from? – the hearts of men. See Mark 7:20-23…. What did Jesus tell us in Matthew 7:16, 20 and 12:34? How do we know who someone is? – “by their fruits” (Matthew 7:16, 20). Jesus commands us to “know” ourselves and others by our/their “fruits.” Did Jesus call His people to be fruit inspectors? Yes! Also, do you know about the gift of the Spirit called “the discerning of spirits”? See 1 Corinthians 12:10. Why did the LORD instruct us to keep, to guard our hearts? – because the issues of life flow from our hearts (Proverbs 4:23). As goes the heart, so goes the life, the fruit of our lives. And, do we not know that people who know us are witnessing what is flowing from, what fruit is issuing from our lives, our hearts?
The LORD is calling those who claim to be His and don’t know His Word thoroughly, to repent. GOD has spoken and many who pretend to be His are contradicting what He stated. Ever heard of His Word, the Bible? Have you studied it (King James Bible) honestly, thoroughly, organically? YOU are calling him a liar. Apparently, you have no clue what Scripture teaches, and the Word instructs you to keep quiet until all you have to say is HIS Word (Prov. 18:13; 2 Tim. 2:15).
Unless God’s Word is a lie, irrefutably, Stanley is burning in hell…
GOD says that every “false prophet” and every “false teacher” is going to hell – shall have “damnation.” You going to call the LORD a liar?
Of every “false prophet” and “false teacher among you” (posing as Christian leaders), the LORD says “their damnation slumbereth not.” Boom.
False Prophets and Teachers
“But there were FALSE PROPHETS also among the people, even as there shall be FALSE TEACHERS among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift DESTRUCTION. 2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. 3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose JUDGMENT now of a long time lingereth not, and THEIR DAMNATION SLUMBERETH NOT.” 2 Peter 2:1-3
“Slumbereth not” simply means it’s of a certainty coming – that their “damnation” in hell is absolute, sure, guaranteed by God!
All “FALSE PROPHETS … among the people” and “FALSE TEACHERS” will “bring upon themselves swift DESTRUCTION” … “JUDGMENT” and “DAMNATION.” (2 Peter 2:1-3)
Bible Question: WHERE do all “false teachers” and “false prophets” go when they die? 2 Peter 2:1-3
Key words in this passage are highlighted in order to help the astute Bible student grasp the divine conveyance.
IF you don’t study, know, understand, and take God at His Word, it’s because you are full of the love of self, and have “an evil heart of unbelief” and are going to be damned if you don’t repent.
“Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God. 13 But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin. 14 For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end; 15 While it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts, as in the provocation.” Hebrews 3:12-15
Charles Stanley taught the OSAS doctrine of devils all his life and even said that “homo-sexuals” who’d had one profession of faith in the past would be in Heaven. The man was a child of Satan. Get over it.
GREAT to hear from men who truly believe what God says. ALL others are hell bound and we are seeing many rebels who hide in their darkness, manifested in this post alone.
Bro Fred Fory, Jr. writes:
“1 Cor. 9:27 – Paul said unless he was able to keep his body under subjection he would be a castaway. Will there be castaways in heaven? Paul Again – Rom. 11:21-22 – ‘If God spared not the natural branches (Israel), take heed lest He spare not thee, (Church). Behold, therefore, the goodness and severity of God; on them which fell severity; but toward thee goodness, if thou continue in His goodness, otherwise thou (saved) also shall be cut off.’ Paul continues in Heb. 10:26-29 – that if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins — only judgment and fiery indignation.’ Paul said ‘we,’ including himself and the church.”
Chad Johnson notes:
“Sadly, it’s true.
Revelation 22:18-19 (KJV) ’18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: 19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and [from] the things which are written in this book.’
Charles Stanley did this by teaching OSAS.”
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The Dispensational Cult of Evangelicalism Exposed
God’s Word never instructed anyone to rightly divide the word of truth via dispensations. There is no such statement of instruction in Scripture. And therein is this cult born and based.
One of the things that allures and seduces unsuspecting buyers into dispensationalism is the idea of neatly organizing world history into 7 dispensations. Yet it’s a trap that has snared many who have refused to organically study the whole of God’s Word in honesty before Him (2 Timothy 2:15). The LORD specifically instructs His people to “study … ALL Scripture” and therein obtain/attain to His truth (2 Timothy 2:15; 3:16-17; 1 Timothy 4:6). The individual study of God’s Word is vital – where it’s just you and the Word and Holy Ghost. Paul commanded and God commands each of us to study His Word for ourselves. Read 2 Timothy 2:15 afresh and see this instruction. In God’s Word, one will discover the deafening silence, the utter absence of any instruction to learn or divide His Word into dispensations at all or as a basis for understanding – much less such being an essential, a basis to understanding God’s truth as is declared by the dispensationalists.
A cult indoctrination system is what the dispensational cult utilizes.
“I appreciate this lesson. My church recently went dispensational, and now they teach that the four gospel and Acts aren’t written to us. They are saying only Roman through Philemon are applicable to New Testament Christians. Oh yeah, Paul preached a different gospel than Christ, and the Kingdom of Heaven is different than the Kingdom of God (SMH). This is sure confusion. Pray that my wife and I will find somewhere else to serve Christ. Thanks.” Matthew
Dispensationalists are clearly anti-Christ! This alone proves it.
The first part of this message is from Joshua Tapp, a man who was at one time ensnared in this cultish indoctrination system of dispensational theology. “Systematic” theology? Well, WHO is determining the system? Is this just another trap set for those who wish to be organized in their study? That way they can be made to believe that they have a grasp on the Bible and yet it’s built on falsehoods. May God bless each of us to be careful and discerning saints. As you peer into dispensationalism, you will find that someone upline if you will, has decided for themselves and you, that no one can possibly understand and rightly divide the truth of the Bible unless they study it in dispensations – something the Bible never hints much less instructs us to to do. An organized, personal, systematic studying of the Bible is one thing, and being indoctrinated into and by man’s system is yet another thing.
The roots of dispensationalism are cursed. One disciples notes: “The popular foolishness of John Nelson Darby’s dispensationalism teaches that if you miss the rapture, you need to be one with the Jews, who will be sacrificing animals in a rebuilt temple. Total heresy.”
Dispensationalism = Garbage = I Studied It For Years And Believed Garbage by Joshua Tapp
- I want to talk about dispensationalism because it’s something I studied for a few years.
- And it’s something I stopped studying because it’s pure trash that doesn’t match the Bible.
- Dispensationalists usually teach a Pre-Tribulation Rapture, which we know is completely false.
- You’ll find dispensationalism mainly in Independent Fundamental Baptist Churches.
- And I want you to see what they’re teaching today so you NEVER fall for this trash.
The word DISPENSATION is in the King James Bible 4 times. All 4 instances are in the New Testament.
- The Apostle Paul wrote the 3 books with these 4 occurrences. 1 Corinthians, Ephesians, and Colossians.
- I want to read those 4 verses to you as we get started today. Then, we’ll go over each in detail.
[3] 1 Corinthians 9:17 For if I do this thing willingly, I have a reward: but if against my will, a dispensation of the gospel is committed unto me.
[4] Ephesians 1:10 That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him:
[5] Ephesians 3:2 If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which is given me to you-ward:
[6] Colossians 1:25 Whereof I am made a minister, according to the dispensation of God which is given to me for you, to fulfil the word of God;
- So, what does dispensation mean in these 4 scriptures that we just read? We’re going to find out.
- Think of the word DISPENSE. Dispense means to distribute, or to give out.
- A candy dispenser gives out candy. A gumball machine is a dispenser of gumballs.
- And to help you remember DISPENSATION, I’m going to give you some candy today.
- I’m going to be a candy DISPENSER right now. I want you to remember what dispense means.
Dispense is the act of distribution or distributing something. To deal out. To give out. To grant something.
- A soap dispenser gives out soap. Do you understand what the word dispensation means now?
- It’s really that simple. The definition of the word dispensation is even explained right there in Colossians.
- Paul says, “according to the dispensation of God which is GIVEN to me for you.”
- Paul is telling us all about the GOSPEL and giving the Gospel to us just as God gave it to Him.
In other words, he is a DISPENSER of the Gospel. That’s what we’re supposed to be. DISPENSERS of the Gospel.
- You got excited over the candy being dispensed, right? Well, the Gospel is much better than that.
- We’re supposed to be DISPENSING the GOSPEL to as many people as we can so they might be saved.
- We’re supposed to be BRINGING or GIVING the GOSPEL to others. Do you see this?
- So, that’s 1 of 4 verses that we’re going to look at today. Let’s look in detail at the other 3.
- I’m going to show you what each of these mean, and then we’ll see what DISPENSATIONALISM is today.
- You’re going to see that DISPENSATIONALISM being taught in churches is not BIBLICAL at all.
Now, look, this was only a short introduction to DISPENSATIONALISM.
- All of their false doctrines are easy to disprove with the Bible.
- Dispensationalism is a false doctrine invented by a man named John Nelson Darby.
- He even wrote his own Bible version called Darby’s Translation.
- It’s just like the modern corrupted versions. He thought he was the only that was right.
- Just like Joseph Smith of the Mormons. His people are going the same direction.
- They’re moving away from God into all this weird doctrine and teaching. Don’t be a part of that.
- He invented the PRE-TRIBULATION RAPTURE in 1830. It doesn’t exist in the Bible.
- When you read Revelation word by word and verse by verse, it makes no sense.
- We need to pray that the deceived get away from these churches teaching false doctrines.
Dispensationalists say We are Saved by Grace but Others weren’t. They say others were saved some other way.
There aren’t different AGES with different ways of being saved.
“If the Bible tells us in John 1:17 that “GRACE and truth came by Jesus Christ”, long before Paul was even saved, how were those 8,000 people at Pentecost saved? (Acts 1-4) After all, Paul didn’t get saved for many years after that (Acts 9). So, the world could only get saved after Paul came along? Is Paul the Savior or JESUS? Did “grace and truth” come from Jesus or Paul? Repent now, vile sinner (John 1:17).” Todd Tomasella
- The dispensationalists say that we’re in the AGE OF GRACE. (a made up “age”)
- They say that we are saved by grace but others weren’t. This is very important to understand.
- The truth is ALL PEOPLE OF ALL TIME are saved the exact same way.
- We’re all saved by GRACE through faith. Everyone in heaven right now got there the exact same way.
- We did an entire sermon on people throughout the Bible and how they were saved.
- Hebrews Chapter 11 tells us all of these people were saved by faith.
2 Timothy 3:16-17 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
- So, they (dispensationalists) come up with all these FAKE DISPENSATIONS that aren’t in the Bible.
- How did God divide the Bible? There’s 2 parts to the Bible. The Old Testament and the New Testament.
- The Old Covenant and the New Covenant. Notice the division is a TESTAMENT.
- The Bible isn’t divided into the Old Salvation and the New Salvation. It’s not a different way to salvation.
John 14:15 If ye love me, keep MY commandments.
- Jesus is the AUTHOR OF GOD’S LAWS. Those are all HIS COMMANDMENTS within the Bible.
- Does Jesus say, “In the future, don’t worry about following my laws because you’re under grace.”
- The Bible itself DESTROYS this false doctrine of dispensationalism. But they can’t see that.
- When you create false teaching like dispensationalism, it gets more and more weird the further you go.
More below from Todd Tomasella …..
WHERE does God’s Word tell us that one cannot “rightly divide the word of truth” unless he does it through time dispensations? Nowhere! When the dispensationalist insists in “context, context” and “rightly divide”… what they are really saying is “No one can rightly divide God’s Word except the dispensationalists.”
Randy Yandell writes: “Those holding a theology that teaches more than one plan of salvation for any people in any age are certainly to be separated from. These are the same that would creep in with the majority unaware bringing in a damnable heresy that tells us God is a respecter of persons. They are accursed and we certainly should separate from them except to “rebuke them sharply” that they may come to the knowledge of the truth.
Paul himself tells us that dispensationalists are “accursed” for saying there is “another gospel”, more than one (Galatians 1:6-9).
Dispensational heretics teach that Jesus’ kingdom Gospel is obsolete and that only Paul’s matters – “Romans to Philemon” they say. So they are antichrist for putting Paul in place of Jesus. They deify Paul and are in need of repentance before it’s too late. Cult.
Our kids and young adults are getting swept into this stuff by the truckloads. It’s a couple of decades past time to get serious about opposing it.”
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“All the bible was written FOR us….but not all was written TO us. Romans through Philemon is all the New Testament saint needs.”
REPLY:
These dispensationalist wolves hyper preach that THEY alone rightly divide the Word of truth…. it’s a smokescreen they hide behind as they’ve been indoctrinated into this cult. Dispensationalists require that their prey read extra-biblical books first in order to understand the Bible. HUGE RED FLAG – and the absolute sign of indoctrination. They are butchering the Word of God. WHERE O where did Jesus, Paul or any of the apostles instruct believers to view the Bible through dispensations? Chapters and verses please? You are being completely deceived by a mere cliche’ pawned on your mind. “ALL scripture is given by inspiration of God” and not just some. Even the OT is “for our learning” (2 Timothy 3:16; Rom 15:4).
You did NOT come to this conclusion for yourself. Mere men, sinners imposed it upon your mind. The Bible never tells you this. It’s not in the Bible. The Bible never instructs anyone saying things like “you can’t rightly divide and understand the Bible unless you do it via dispensations” … so did God forget to tell us something or are we deceived?
Dispensationalists are saying that only Romans thru Philemon are valid which means that the other 14 books of the New Testament canon are invalid and that God made a mistake by including them. They are adding to and REMOVING from God’s Word and their names and yours will be removed from the book of life – Rev 22:18-19
You are deifying Paul, a mere men, less than the least of all sinners who said there is “NO good thing” in himself except Christ (Ephesians 3:8). This whole system of demonic theology is all to save counterfeits from truly laying down their lives in this present world and following Jesus by the daily cross, the crucified life. This is the exact perversion of grace Jude 4 foretold. You have no clue who deceived you are and now you’re spreading this heresy.
Here’s the big clue for those who gullibly, foolishly, sinfully bought into the lies of the dispensationalist devils: You did NOT go into the Bible and discover these things. No, you were gullibly led by false teachers and took the bait, hook line and sinker and it’s because you aren’t studying God’s Word organically for yourself. And so, when these cult leaders brainwashed you to believe that only THEY were rightly dividing the Word of truth, you fell all over your foolish self to drink in that poison. Mark This: No one ever studied the Bible for themselves with the Holy Ghost and came out with those heresies. Sinful men mined out these twisted lies and then began to spread those doctrines of devils….. “MANY false prophets shall arise and shall deceive many.” (Matthew 24:11)
The fact that you have to go through a whole lengthy workbook curriculum to learn the interpretation system of dispensationalist should be a red flag. This is introductory indoctrination.
This whole explanation dispensationalists give complicates the simple, original Gospel, the revelation of which should be obtained by organic reading of the Word of God for oneself as Scripture instructs (2 Timothy 2:15). Those who believe this system get this theology from other mere men, commentators and false teachers (such as Scofield). Someone imposes it on them, pretending to make understanding the Bible simpler. They forgot to mention the poison. Instead of personally studying the Bible organically, some want a short cut and so what they do is hook up with some ministry that is pushing a system. Laziness is also a contributing factor when men choose to go to seminary – to supposedly study a book, the Bible they’ve had in their possession for years. Enlisting to be indoctrinated would sum up the course of seminarians and those who follow their heretical theology. Dispensational “seminary,” signing up to be indoctrinated via their systematic curriculum, is a recipe for diabolical doctrinal disaster.
MESSAGE FROM DISPENSATIONALIST:
“Dispensationalism leads to understanding the Bible without contradiction. Non-dispensationalism leads to satanic heresies and Bible ignorance.”
REPLY:
This is laughable at best. You are clearly a blasphemer who is saying that the Holy Ghost can’t teach God’s people God’s Word. Wow! Repent sinner.
“But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.” John 14:26
“Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. 14 He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.” John 16:13-14
“But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.” 1 John 2:27
MESSAGE RECEIVED FROM A DECEIVED DISPENSATIONALIST:
“There is more than one gospel in Bible. However, there is only one gospel that is to be preached today. Watch closely👇 Galatians 1:7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. Notice, Paul, (when speaking of the gospel) says which “is not another”. He does not say which WAS not another, or for that matter, which never will BE another. A bible believer knows that in the future there will BE another gospel. (Revelation 14:6) Paul is not saying that there never was or will be another gospel. He is simply saying there is no other gospel other than his, at this TIME. (“Which is not another;”) Galatians 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. Note that Paul warned that even if an “angel from heaven, preach any other gospel”. But Revelation 14:6 declares that an angel WILL preach another gospel. “And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,” And if you’ll read Revelation 14 and pay close attention to the context you’ll notice that something is missing. OUR gospel! (1 Corinthians 15:1-4) ~Christ dying for all our sins, and rising the third day to give us His eternal life is not there. ~God through Christ reconciling the world unto himself and no longer imputing the our sins is not there. ~Being saved by grace through faith alone in Christ alone, without any works of any-kind at any-time, is JUST NOT THERE.”
REPLY:
Totally convoluted.. You are simply regurgitating what you learned from false teachers. You claim Bible believers know there’s another future gospel coming. Not. WHAT gospel would that be since the true Gospel (Good News) is Jesus Christ and His death, burial, and resurrection? (1 Corinthians 15:1-4) You are misusing Scripture. You reference Revelation 14:6 which states: “And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people.” “The everlasting gospel” is the same Gospel – nothing supersedes Jesus Christ, the eternal God and He is that Gospel, that everlasting, eternal Good News, Gospel. His death, burial, and resurrection is memorialized for ever. You are making things up to say that “the everlasting gospel” spoken of here is another gospel. Ridiculous. Heretical. If the Gospel spoken of here is “the EVERLASTING gospel”, it further proves that God has only one Gospel – past, present, future. That means it has never and will never change. Your theology is convoluted. Eternal security is yet another lie of the dispensational devils. Repent now sinner.
HOW MANY GOSPELS ARE THERE?
The following bulleted statements are from one source concerning dispensationalism theology:
- “They (dispensationalists) say only Paul taught being ‘in Christ’. Rom 16:7; Gal 1:22-23 among others, show these people were named as being ‘in Christ’ before Paul was in Christ.
- Contrary to what they teach, the Word clearly teaches that the Jewish church was ‘in Christ’ and that Paul preached the same faith he once persecuted. Rom 16:7; Gal 1:22-23
- Some (dispensationalists) teach there are Two different gospels — that the Jew is saved by faith plus the law and Gentiles by Faith alone. Because Paul said ‘my gospel’ they think it was somehow different than Peter, John, James (Rom 2:18; 16:25; 2 Tim 2:8). Even though elsewhere he called it ‘our gospel’ (2 Cor 4:3; 1 Thess 1:5; 2 Thess 2:14). There is only one gospel not two, the just have always lived by faith. (Hab 2:4; Rom 1:17, Gal 2:16, 3:11) The righteous have always been declared so by belief in God and His promises. From the beginning. Some just see the Jews transitioning from the law as we see in Galatians 2 with the public rebuke of Peter, Barnabas and James.”
The phrases “another gospel” and “any other gospel” could mean but one thing – that there is only one Gospel (2 Corinthians 11:2-4; Galatians 1:6-9). Dispensational theology teaches that there are two gospels – one for the Jews, and another for the Gentiles.
“I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: 7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. 9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.” Galatians 1:6-9
Past, present, and future, the Lamb of God and His crucifixion will be celebrated in glory – “the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.” (Revelation 13:8)
Paul not only uses the term “my gospel”, he also uses the words “THE gospel” as in only one Gospel! In fact, in the New Testament canon, the words “THE gospel” appear 86 times while Paul’s use of the words “my gospel” appear only 3 times. Paul himself used the term “THE gospel” 59 times! I will leave it to you to do a search of the words “THE gospel” on your King James Bible software. Your jaw will drop as 86 results appear. And as you do, notice that the words “THE gospel”, a phrase used before and after Paul used this same term, further proving there’s only one Gospel – “THE gospel” of Jesus Christ – which is not exclusive to Paul’s dispensation (dispensing) of it which simply refers to his stewardship of the calling God gave him to dispense the one and eternal Gospel of Jesus Christ who is the Gospel.
Paul says that anyone preaching “ANY other gospel” than CHRIST’s Gospel, is “accursed.” (Galatians 1:6-9) There’s only 1 Gospel – Christ’s. Dispensationalism is demonic.
There is no end to the debacle of this dispensational system of heresy. Before Paul was even saved, the words “many believed” appears 4 times in the Word of God and 1 time shortly after Paul was saved (John 2:23; 8:30; 10:42; 12:42; Acts 9:42). The Bible clearly says “many believed” and so we know they were “saved.” (John 6:47) Yet the dispensationalist would say they are not saved because they couldn’t be saved till Paul came along. So, were those people, those “many” who believed, believing into “another gospel” – a gospel other than that one Gospel of Christ spoken of throughout the New Testament canon? There’s Only One Gospel of Christ and as seen in the Bible verses listed above, people were clearly saved BEFORE Paul was saved much less before he wrote the books God ordained him to pen!
HOW do you know if someone is imposing something upon the Scripture text they are reading from IF you haven’t personally, organically, thoroughly studied the whole of God’s Word for yourself? You don’t.
Dispensationalists claim that the only essential part of the New Testament and Bible for that matter, is the writings of the apostle Paul. The demonic dispensationalists claim that only Paul’s words really matter, not Christ’s or the other holy apostles and writers of the New Testament and whole Bible canon. But Paul, whom they deify, disagrees.
“If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, EVEN THE WORDS OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness; 4 He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings, 5 Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself.” 1 Timothy 6:3-5
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Eternal Security is not taught in God’s Word – Other than by Satan and his false prophets.
After being saved, one cannot live in sin and remain in relationship with Christ.
“What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? 2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?” Romans 6:1-2
Reading Romans 6 each morning this week prayerfully will greatly benefit the disciple of Christ.
God said (Genesis 2:17):
“But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof THOU SHALT SURELY DIE.”
Satan said (Genesis 3:4):
“And the serpent said unto the woman, YE SHALL NOT SURELY DIE.”
Eternal Security Proof Text Plundered
1 John 2:19-29
Warning Concerning Antichrists
18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.
20 But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things.
21 I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth.
22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.
24 Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father.
25 And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life.
26 These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you.
27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
Children of God
28 And now, little children, abide in him; that, when he shall appear, we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before him at his coming.
29 If ye know that he is righteous, ye know that every one that doeth righteousness is born of him.
John makes it clear that the antichrists in their midst which departed, did so because they were departing from the faith (1 timothy 4:1-2). Verse 19 does NOT say they were never of us but rather “they were not of us.”
Teddy Caldwell writes:
“OSAS insists that those are professing believers, but 1 John 2:18 says such people are antichrists. 1 John 2:22 says an antichrist is one who denies that Jesus is the Christ. Anyone who does that isn’t a believer and isn’t even trying to look like one.”
Concerning 1 John 2:19, Donald Stamps, in the Life in the Spirit Study Bible, writes:
“‘THEY WENT OUT FROM US.’ When the antichrists departed from their fellowship with true believers, they were not in a saving relationship with Christ. This allows for two possibilities: (1) They were never true believers to begin with, or (2) they had once been in a saving relationship with Christ but afterward abandoned their faith in Christ.”
Right here in verse 24 of this passage we see the doctrine of personal responsibility to “remain” in faithful obedience to the LORD or lose one’s place with God (1 Corinthians 15:2; Galatians 6:9; Colossians 1:23). This is a teaching found throughout Holy Writ – the divine requirement to stay saved or lose all in eternity, “suffering the vengeance of eternal fire” (Jude 7).
“Let that therefore abide (remain) in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. IF (denotes condition) that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father. And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life.” 1 John 2:24-25
Verse 24 alone tells us that we cannot think that verse 19 means that someone who is at some point in right standing with God can never depart from Him and lose out. Also, verse 25 tells us that “eternal life” (not just rewards) is at stake and the promise contingent upon the believer abiding or remaining in that “which ye have heard from the beginning” which is the Gospel. “Eternal life” is assured as long as one is remaining rooted in Jesus Christ. This is the overwhelmingly consistent message of God’s Word.
In verse 26 John says “These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you.” Verse 19 is written about the deceivers who sought to “seduce” these disciples John was addressing, and not of true believers.
With all of Scripture in consideration, we can conclude that 1 John 2:19 is a specific example and not a rule of doctrine.
If you truly wish to search out this matter, let me encourage you to closely examine, break down and study this entire text (1 John 2:18-29). In order to ascertain truth, one must compare the verse in question with all other related Scriptures, beginning with the context in which the verse is set (Isaiah 28:9-10; 1 Corinthians 2:13).
Adam Clarke note on 1 John 2:19
“1 John 2:19
They went out from us – These heretics had belonged to our Christian assemblies, they professed Christianity, and do so still; but we apostles did not commission them to preach to you, for they have disgraced the Divine doctrine with the most pernicious opinions; they have given up or explained away its most essential principles; they have mingled the rest with heathenish rites and Jewish glosses. While, therefore, we acknowledge that they once belonged to us, we assert that they are not of us. They are not Christians; we abhor their conduct and their creed. We never sent them to teach.
They were not of us – For a considerable time before they left our assemblies they gave proofs that they had departed from the faith; for if they had been of us – if they had been apostles, and continued in the firm belief of the Christian doctrines, they would not have departed from us to form a sect of themselves.
That they were not all of us – They were not expelled from the Christian Church; they were not sent out by us; but they separated from it and us. None of them had been inspired as we apostles were, though they pretended to a very high teaching; but their separating from us manifested that they were not taught, as we were, by the Spirit of God. These false teachers probably drew many sincere souls away with them.”
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