Was Charles Stanley true or false? WHERE is Charles Stanley?
“One of the most troubling problems within the church today is the unwavering loyalty to a ‘christian’ personality rather than to Christ and His Word. The unwillingness to test every man’s teaching with God’s Word, coupled with a stubborn lack of discernment, produces fertile ground for deception to flourish.” Evangeline DiChristi
LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT…So this evil heretic, Charles Stanley, spent his whole life on earth lying to people, peddling SATAN’s first DAMNING lie (OSAS), sending many to eternal damnation with his heresies, telling people homosexuality – an “abomination” to God – will not keep them from Heaven, etc., and yet we can’t know where Charles Stanley is? What kind of a truth-despising counterfeit would possibly claim this man went to Heaven? See Leviticus 18:22. Sounds like some folks who believe they are saved are fully deceived in that conclusion. It’s time to repent before it’s too late. You’ve called the Almighty a liar which makes you a hell bound liar (Revelation 21:8). Repent or perish.
THIS WEEK several, including long time “friends” unfriended me due to declaring that every false teacher is going to hell, with no exception – and that’s where Charles Stanley is presumably – due to his decision to be the enemy of Christ by teaching contrary to His Word for decades (2 Peter 2:1-3). No apology. I believe 100% he’s there and there’s good Bible reason for it. There is no Bible reason for any false teacher to go to Heaven. Repent now.
The truth of God alone will destroy the delusions. This blessing only happens in those who will humble themselves before the Almighty and truly, sincerely search out, listen to, believe, and take Him at His Word. KJB (2 Timothy 2:15-3:16-17).
Charles Stanley now knows the damning eternal security/osas lie he perpetrated against the counsel of the Almighty was false. Like Cain, Charles Stanley chose his own way, to do things his own way instead of God’s. He led many into deception and the ditch of eternal destruction. Do you pretend to love God and yet dare show more respect to this vile enemy of Christ than Christ Himself and those millions he deceived?
People have created such soul ties with mere men and therefore when those idols are exposed they erupt into a fury.
“Verily every man at his BEST state is altogether vanity. Selah.” Psalms 39:5
“According to Galatians 1:8-9, Charles Stanley was ‘accursed.’ Sadly, I have a friend grieving over the loss of Charles Stanley and in her rebellion against God, she will not listen to truth. Charles Stanley preached ‘another gospel.'” A Disciple
REPENT when there’s no reason to? After all, Charles Stanley taught and fully believed and was turned over by God Himself to this eternal security lie (2 Thessalonians 2:10-12). SO, what makes us think he would repent in the end when he believed he had no accountability, no personally responsibility to repent because in his own deliberately delusional mind he’s “once saved always saved”? Right?
OSAS / eternal security is a lie from hell embraced by moral cowards who refuse to truly repent, deny themselves, take up the cross daily and follow Jesus for real (Luke 9:23-24).
WHY O WHY would it be difficult to believe that God is going to damn to hell His enemies? Wow. HAVE YOU had an enemy? Specifically, has anyone ever lied about you? Has anyone ever told lies about you? If so, were they in good standing with you? No. Now, think about the nature of the lawless lies Charles Stanley told against God all of his natural life. What if they lied about you for a long time? What if they lied about you for your whole life? Would they be in right standing with you? No. Let’s wake up. God will justly damn the souls of every “false prophet” and “false teacher,” and He has told us just that (2 Peter 2:1-3). If you don’t believe this biblical truth and make concession for sinful evil wolves, this clearly proves you do not love nor fear God and are an idolater of mere men and cursed (Jeremiah 17:5). Laughable. Sinful. Foolish. Damning. Repent now.
“Undoubtedly. Few are even willing to call them (the false teachers) out! A good example is Charles Stanley. He preached the false OSAS doctrine and refused to call out false teachers. Even his own son was not taught to be discerning. Andy teaches many damnable hersesies including preaching that homosexuality is not a sin and they are welcome in his ‘church’, even in leadership positions. Instead Charles befriended many of these false teachers (including Billy Graham)! Sad but he will certainly be held accountable by God. We MUST tell the truth in love! Whether people want to hear it or not. It is a command of Jesus to spread the Good News uncompromisingly to ALL. It is not a pick and choose/ buffet choice matter. We must share the whole saving Gospel of Salvation and Repentance without leaving anything out!” Barbara
Are Christ’s disciples to judge sin in our midst? YES!
“Judge righteous judgment.” John 7:24
“For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? 13 But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.” 1 Corinthians 5:12-13
“Open Rebuke” vs “Secret Love”
“Open rebuke is better than secret love. Faithful are the wounds of a friend; but the kisses of an enemy are deceitful.” Proverbs 27:5-6
Recently a man was publicly preaching Satan’s OSAS lie. In an “open rebuke” to him I replied:
“(his name) <<< is a moral coward who hides behind lies because he won’t repent for real, man-up, die to self, live the crucified life, and walk in the light with Christ who is HOLY and returning for His true Church which is “a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish” (Ephesians 5:27; Luke 9:23-24; 1 John 1:7). And (the man’s name) is a diabolical heretic for perpetrating the first lie ever told to man by SATAN which caused the fall of man – irrefutably (Genesis 2:17; 3:4). Time to repent sinner, and cease making excuse for your sins (Proverbs 28:13).”
“That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.” Ephesians 5:27
These defenders of Charles Stanley, a man who profusely promulgated the satanic doctrine of devils of OSAS prove they are on Satan’s side and have made themselves the enemies of Christ.
These OSAS counterfeits have lied against the LORD, they have “belied the LORD”:
“They have belied the LORD, and said, It is not he; neither shall evil come upon us; neither shall we see sword nor famine:” Jeremiah 5:12
“Hebrew for belied ‘kaw-khash’
A primitive root; to be untrue, in word (to lie, feign, disown) or deed (to disappoint, fail, cringe): – deceive, deny, dissemble, fail, deal falsely, be found liars, (be-) lie, lying, submit selves.”
MANY of the OSAS defenders are pitiful pansies (dishonest moral cowards) who refuse to repent, deny self, take up the cross daily, and follow Jesus in the crucified life He mandates for anyone who will truly know and follow Him (Luke 9:23-24). This is why they fiercely defend demonic wolves like Charles Stanley, an enemy of Christ who preached this doctrine of devils.
Demons and their doctrines, “doctrines of devils” are inseparably married – 1 Timothy 4:1-2. If OSAS isn’t a doctrine of devils, there’s no such thing as a doctrine “of devils.” Yet the Bible uses these very words and so we know that ANY person who believe the satanic lie of OSAS has demons. It doesn’t matter if they believe this or not – they have demons.
“Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; 2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;” 1 Timothy 4:1-2
Did you notice that departing from the faith is specifically included as a doctrine of devils here in this passage above?
God uses heresies to divide between the authentic and the fake (mere professors).
“For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you.” 1 Corinthians 11:19
Jesus came and gave us His truth in order to clearly separate… a sword separates – divides.
“Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.” Matthew 10:34
The truth is the occasion of division – between those who are truly of God and those who aren’t. See John 8:47.
Homosexuals in Heaven? No! Leviticus 18:22… and some people claiming to be following Jesus are viciously attacking me for stating the Biblically obvious. | God says homosexuality is an “abomination” to Him (Leviticus 18:22). | Charles Stanley said homosexuals will be in Heaven.
IF Biblical truth destroys your delusions, why not just get happy and thank God? Didn’t He inform us that He gave us His Word to do just that – for “correction” or correcting us? Boom (2 Timothy 3:16-17).
My personal conviction is to preach the Bible with no human reasoning. I fear for the eternal soul of anyone teaching that doctrine of devils.
Charles Stanley is dead and in hell. He now knows the damning eternal security/osas lie he perpetrated against the counsel of the Almighty was false. He made a lot of money doing it.
Like Cain, Stanley chose his own way, to do things his own way instead of God’s. He led many into deception and the ditch of eternal destruction.
THE ONLY REASON A PERSON WOULD BELIEVE THAT CHARLES STANLEY IS WITH GOD IN HEAVEN IS THAT SUCH A PERSON LOVES HIMSELF AND A MERE MAN, A SINNER (CHARLES STANLEY) MORE THAN JESUS…..
LAUGHABLE IF IT WEREN’T SO PITIFUL: Contrast the fact that the Berean disciples tested the LORD’s apostle Paul against the Word of God and now we have biblically-illiterate dupes who are defending a known, blatant demonic operative named Charles Stanley. They refuse to honestly test this wolf against Holy Scripture.
“And the brethren immediately sent away Paul and Silas by night unto Berea: who coming thither went into the synagogue of the Jews. 11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.” Acts 17:10-11
“Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try (test) the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.” 1 John 4:1
The wicked among us are digging their way into hell… “they dig into hell” (Amos 9:2).
“I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.” Luke 13:3
Tares prove their own counterfeit status when they love and defend the lies the false prophets peddle. They “love to have it so.”
“The prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests bear rule by their means ($); and my people love to have it so: and what will ye do in the end thereof?” Jeremiah 5:31
Many have created a soul tie with the famous personalities of “ministries” in apostate America. They love the lies these people feed them because they themselves have not repented, are not truly serving Christ in the daily cross – which He said is essential or one is not following Him (Luke 9:23-24). So, they will fight viciously to defend the mere man or woman they’ve idolized and have become accustomed to receiving lies from them. They will listen to endless episodes from the wolves that are misleading them and yet do little or nothing to seek the LORD in His own Word. They love to try to protect their delusion they hide behind (Jeremiah 5:31).
“Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine. 3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; 4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.” 2 Timothy 4:2-4
The truth of God destroys the delusions of those who will humble themselves before the Almighty and truly, sincerely search out, listen to, and believe Him at His Word (2 Timothy 2:15-3:16-17 KJB).
Tell HIS truth NO MATTER WHAT saints! (John 17:17; Romans 3:4)
Lynne Parker states:
“What a horrible conclusion and frightening realization regarding Charles Stanley, yet God’s Word states emphatically the end of such false teaching. It should raise a godly fear in us all.”
ANY and all who teach OSAS are liars, false teachers, and headed for hell – with no exception (2 Peter 2:1-3). Repent of the compromise.
Charles Stanley and anyone teaching OSAS is a false teacher and false prophet….OSAS was SATAN’s first teaching, first lie, which led to the fall of mankind and is still damning millions (Genesis 2:17; 3:4). “Heresies” is one of the 17 soul damning sins on the list cited in Galatians 5:19-21. So anyone preaching a lie is going to fry, period. Such a person, such as Charles Stanley, is by biblical definition, a “false teacher.”
OSAS is the first lie ever told and it was told by Satan himself and directly led to the fall of mankind (Genesis 2:17; 3:4). This cannot be refuted. And so anyone teaching or defending in any way this lie is in need of repentance. Their defense of this lie of Satan reveals they are false teachers and on his side, not Christ’s.
Be encouraged to lock this passage in…. whatever you do. We are going to be dealing with biblically-illiterate counterfeits till Jesus returns and you will need this ammo as you “earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.” See Jude 3-4.
The JUDGE has spoken! CAN YOU READ?
AFTER reading 2 Peter 2:1-3 there should be absolutely NO doubt that every “falseteacher” and “false prophet” will be going to “damnation.” Boom. Case closed. GOD the JUDGE has spoken. Anyone who questions Him proves to be a child of Satan himself (Genesis 3:1).
God told us specifically that EVERY “false teacher” and “false prophet” will have “DAMNATION” (2 Peter 2:1-3). They are going to hell for lying against the LORD, His Word.
Jude specifically mandates that God’s people earnestly contend against the “ungodly men” who peddle this grace-perverting lie – OSAS (Jude 3-4).
CHARLES STANLEY was a lying devil and in my opinion he is 100% in hell. The Bible makes that crystal clear. You going to call the LORD a liar?
Make Hell Known Again!
Make God’s Word Great Again – in the minds of rebels – “Let God be true and EVERY man a liar” (Romans 3:4). Unbelief is a soul damning sin (Hebrews 3:12-15).
Hell awaits all who die in sin. You’ve been warned.
Repent and follow Jesus daily by the cross life – or get ready to burn.
People prove who they are by how they treat (embrace or reject) the knowledge of God He gave us in His Word.
“He that is OF GOD heareth God’s words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are NOT OF GOD.” John 8:47
When I made this post, and do not apologize for it… it seems more than obvious that this vile enemy of Christ taught his filth all the way to his death AND the very nature of such a lie would not necessitate, would not lead him to truly repent before he drew his last breath.
“(For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ: 19 whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things.)” Philippians 3:18-19
SO, let me get this straight, a man can teach heresies, spit in the face of God for his whole natural life and YET because he called himself a pastor and got millions of people to like and listen to his lies, then he’s going to the Heaven of the holy God whom he deliberately lied about during his earthly whole life? Man you need to get saved if you believe that, sinner! Repent now you vile enemy of the LORD!
Yes, and anyone who reads God’s Word knows that God is “Holy, holy, holy,” and that anyone who dies in sin is going to hell irrevocably. The wages of sin is STILL death (Romans 6:23).
MANY are fighting to defend Satan’s wolves while claiming to be following Jesus! Wow (2 Corinthians 11:12-15).
God has turned them over to “strong delusion” (2 Thessalonians 2:9-12).
The religious industry is big busine$$! (Read 2 Peter 2:1-3; Romans 16:17-18.)
It’s all a big game and you are the prey, the target, the intended victim. Get into God’s Word for yourself and only then will He give you a clue – His truth (Hosea 4:6).
“Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.” 2 Timothy 2:15
Charles Stanley had a huge “call center.” Surely you’re not going to say it was for prayer. No, any ministry that has a large call center is doing so to collect money. Big call center equals big money. Stop the disingenuous dishonesty now!
Defending Satan’s false teachers clearly proves you are on Satan’s side, not Christ’s! Repent now vile antichrist (Matthew 12:30; 2 Corinthians 11:12-15).
“People would rather be comfortable in a lie which is what they tell.” Dana Carter
Yes, they are defending their own rebellion
“For I am the LORD, I change not…” Malachi 3:6
I’m sorry, can someone please explain to us all WHEN God ceases to be “Holy, holy, holy” and when the wages of sin cease to be death? Waiting (Romans 6:23; Isaiah 6:3; Revelation 4:8; Hebrews 12:14).
Unless the Almighty changed, all rebels, every false teacher is immediately in hell upon dying. Period. It’s time to repent and take God at His Word OR cease claiming we know Him whom we are calling a liar if we don’t believe what He plainly stated.
“Let GOD be true and EVERY man a liar.” Romans 3:4
Charles Stanley is not in Heaven. Get a biblical clue! You only want to believe that because you care more about that vile sinner than the LORD you falsely claim to serve!
Those who are not engrossed daily in the Word of God are backslidden and walking in darkness. They are under the power and deception of “Satan” himself because they don’t truly love the LORD, and that’s why they don’t esteem His Word as final divine authority. God told on these rebels in advance so they’d have the opportunity to repent for real and get right with Him before it’s too late. Check this out.
“Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.” 2 Thessalonians 2:9-12
The reason people get so upset about the conclusion that Charles Stanley is in hell is because they themselves are in darkness and don’t want to truly repent, and so they want to believe they are safe and secure. Hell awaits.
“And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.” John 3:19-21
If you knew Jesus, you’d know what He stated in His Word. Yet you don’t because you love darkness rather than light, you love your life in this fleeting world and are on the broad way that leads to destruction (Matthew 7:13-14). IF you are man enough, keep reading.
IF the heart of man is the source of righteousness and unrighteousness (and it is), if you can’t know another man’s heart, to some degree, their spiritual state, WHY O WHY did Jesus command us to “know” (discern) people “by their fruits”? WHY would our LORD instruct us to discern others and “know” them by “fruits” of their life if that’s not what He wanted us to do? And if we are obeying Him by discerning people “by their fruits” are we not going to find some of those people to have bad fruit…..And just WHAT does that bad fruit say of the heart of the person it’s coming out of? Hmmmmm.
When Jesus says“Judge righteous judgment” He’s not speaking of condemning anyone, He’s speaking of discerning them (John 7:24). It’s His place alone to judge those who refuse His salvation plan, not ours (James 1:20). Yet, He, the Judge Himself, commands us to discern, to examine, to “know” others “by their fruits.”
Let’s put a fresh eye on this severe warning of Jesus concerning being a false prophet and discerning false leaders:
“Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. 16 YE SHALL KNOW THEM BY THEIR FRUITS. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? 17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. 19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. 20 Wherefore BY THEIR FRUITS YE SHALL KNOW (discern) them. 21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.” Matthew 7:16-21
TO CLAIM WE CAN’T KNOW WHERE SOMEONE IS WHEN THEY DIE IS TO FALSELY CLAIM…
1. That God didn’t thoroughly address this issue (2 Timothy 3:16-17; 2 Peter 1:3-4).
2. To claim you don’t really know and/or believe God’s Word which means you have called the Almighty a liar and are living in damnable unbelief (Numbers 23:17; Malachi 3:6; Mark 13:31, etc.).
3. To claim that we can’t know these things the LORD has spoken of.
4. Claim to not truly believe what God says which makes you a lost soul.
Gutless moral cowards don’t know God’s Word because they’ve been playing and not truly fearing, obeying, and walking with Christ (John 3:19-21). Counterfeits. This is why they rise up against His truth.
They will be destroyed for lack of knowledge because they’ve rejected His knowledge – His Word. They’ve been too busy chasing the fleeting trinkets of this fallen temporal world.
“My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because THOU HAST REJECTED KNOWLEDGE, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.” Hosea 4:6
So, God told us things in His Word and yet you call Him a liar?
“God is not a man, that he should lie.” Numbers 23:19
SO many among us are living in the flesh out of a carnal, wicked and uncircumcised heart (Jeremiah 4:3-4; 17:5-10; Hosea 10:12; Ephesians 5:25-27; Hebrews 3:12-15; 4:12; 5:11-14, etc.). The circumcising of the heart only transpires in the lives of those who truly love God and therefore diligently study the two edge sword of His Word which circumcises their hearts.
“For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.” Hebrews 4:12
ANY person who doesn’t walk according to God’s written Word “shall be destroyed.” Not only are many who claim to know Christ not agreeing with His Word, they are attacking it, and His messengers who merely put HIS Word forth.
“Whoso despiseth the word shall be destroyed: but he that feareth the commandment shall be rewarded.” Proverbs 13:13
One lady gave the typical cop out of negating the whole counsel of Scripture with the “God knows the heart” excuse. Such are misusing God’s Word and calling God a liar as they ignore what His Word states (2 Corinthians 2:17). Jesus plainly taught that the fruit of a man’s life CLEARLY proves what’s in his heart (Matthew 7:16, 20; 12:34). Regrettably they don’t know this simple truth because they are not disciples, not a man or woman of truth – they are not “valiant for the truth” of God (Jeremiah 9:3). It’s time to get into God’s Word and cease bearing false witness against the LORD.
Where do actions, where does fruit flow from? – the hearts of men. See Mark 7:20-23…. What did Jesus tell us in Matthew 7:16, 20 and 12:34? How do we know who someone is? – “by their fruits” (Matthew 7:16, 20). Jesus commands us to “know” ourselves and others by our/their “fruits.” Did Jesus call His people to be fruit inspectors? Yes! Also, do you know about the gift of the Spirit called “the discerning of spirits”? See 1 Corinthians 12:10. Why did the LORD instruct us to keep, to guard our hearts? – because the issues of life flow from our hearts (Proverbs 4:23). As goes the heart, so goes the life, the fruit of our lives. And, do we not know that people who know us are witnessing what is flowing from, what fruit is issuing from our lives, our hearts?
The LORD is calling those who claim to be His and don’t know His Word thoroughly, to repent. GOD has spoken and many who pretend to be His are contradicting what He stated. Ever heard of His Word, the Bible? Have you studied it (King James Bible) honestly, thoroughly, organically? YOU are calling him a liar. Apparently, you have no clue what Scripture teaches, and the Word instructs you to keep quiet until all you have to say is HIS Word (Prov. 18:13; 2 Tim. 2:15).
Unless God’s Word is a lie, irrefutably, Stanley is burning in hell…
GOD says that every “false prophet” and every “false teacher” is going to hell – shall have “damnation.” You going to call the LORD a liar?
Of every “false prophet” and “false teacher among you” (posing as Christian leaders), the LORD says“their damnation slumbereth not.” Boom.
False Prophets and Teachers
“But there were FALSE PROPHETS also among the people, even as there shall be FALSE TEACHERS among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift DESTRUCTION. 2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. 3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose JUDGMENT now of a long time lingereth not, and THEIR DAMNATION SLUMBERETH NOT.” 2 Peter 2:1-3
“Slumbereth not” simply means it’s of a certainty coming – that their “damnation” in hell is absolute, sure, guaranteed by God!
All “FALSE PROPHETS … among the people” and “FALSE TEACHERS” will “bring upon themselves swift DESTRUCTION” … “JUDGMENT” and “DAMNATION.” (2 Peter 2:1-3)
Bible Question: WHERE do all “false teachers” and “false prophets” go when they die? 2 Peter 2:1-3
Key words in this passage are highlighted in order to help the astute Bible student grasp the divine conveyance.
IF you don’t study, know, understand, and take God at His Word, it’s because you are full of the love of self, and have “an evil heart of unbelief” and are going to be damned if you don’t repent.
“Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God. 13 But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin. 14 For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end; 15 While it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts, as in the provocation.” Hebrews 3:12-15
Charles Stanley taught the OSAS doctrine of devils all his life and even said that “homo-sexuals” who’d had one profession of faith in the past would be in Heaven. The man was a child of Satan. Get over it.
GREAT to hear from men who truly believe what God says. ALL others are hell bound and we are seeing many rebels who hide in their darkness, manifested in this post alone.
Bro Fred Fory, Jr. writes:
“1 Cor. 9:27 – Paul said unless he was able to keep his body under subjection he would be a castaway. Will there be castaways in heaven? Paul Again – Rom. 11:21-22 – ‘If God spared not the natural branches (Israel), take heed lest He spare not thee, (Church). Behold, therefore, the goodness and severity of God; on them which fell severity; but toward thee goodness, if thou continue in His goodness, otherwise thou (saved) also shall be cut off.’ Paul continues in Heb. 10:26-29 – that if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins — only judgment and fiery indignation.’ Paul said ‘we,’ including himself and the church.”
Chad Johnson notes:
“Sadly, it’s true.
Revelation 22:18-19 (KJV) ’18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: 19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and [from] the things which are written in this book.’
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Spiritual Formation—A Dangerous Substitute for the Life of Christ [podcast]
Sometimes we think of spiritual formation as formation by the Holy Spirit. Once again. That’s essential. . . . But now I have to say something that may be challenging for you to think about: Spiritual formation is not all by the Holy Spirit. . . . We have to recognize that spiritual formation in us is something that is also done to us by those around us, by ourselves, and by activities which we voluntarily undertake . . .There has to be method.1—Dallas Willard
Aside from the fact that Spiritual Formation incorporates mystical practices into its infrastructure (remove the contemplative aspect and you don’t have “Spiritual Formation” anymore), Spiritual Formation is a works-based substitute for biblical Christianity. Let us explain.
When one becomes born again (“that if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved” (Romans 10:9-10), having given his or her life and heart over to Christ as Savior, Jesus Christ says He will come in and live in that surrendered heart:
Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me. (Revelation 3:20)
To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory: (Colossians 1:27)
If the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you. (Romans 8:11; emphasis added)
When God, through Jesus Christ, is living in us, He begins to do a transforming work in our hearts (2 Corinthians 3:18). Not only does He change us, He also communes with us. In other words, we have fellowship with Him, and He promises never to leave or forsake us (Hebrews 13:5).
This life of God in the believer’s heart is not something we need to conjure up through meditative practices. But if a person does not have this relationship with the Lord, he may seek out ways to feel close to God. This is where Spiritual Formation comes into play. Rather than a surrendered life to Christ (through repentance and faith), the seeking person begins practicing the spiritual disciplines (e.g., prayer, fasting, good works, etc.) with the promise that if he practices these disciplines, he will become more Christ-like.
But merely doing these acts fails to make one feel close to God—something is still missing. And thus, he begins practicing the discipline of silence (or solitude), and now in these altered states of silence, he finally feels connected to God. He now feels complete. What he does not understand is that he has substituted the indwelling of Christ in his heart for a works-based methodology that endangers his spiritual life. Dangerous because these mystical experiences he now engages in appear to be good because they make him feel close to God, but in reality he is being drawn into demonic realms no different than what happens to someone who is practicing transcendental meditation or eastern meditation. Even mystics themselves acknowledge that the contemplative realm is no different than the realm reached by occultists. To understand this more fully, please read Ray Yungen’s book A Time of Departing.
Bottom line, it is not possible to be truly Christ-like without having Christ inside of us because it is His righteousness that is able to change our hearts—we cannot do it without Him. It is His righteousness we need:
Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe. (Romans 3:22)
And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith. (Philippians 3:9)
It is interesting to note that virtually every contemplative teacher has a common theme—they feel dry and empty and want to go “deeper” with God or “become more intimate” with God. But if we have Christ living in us, how can we go any deeper than that? How can we become more intimate than that? And if going deeper and becoming intimate were so important, why is it that none of the disciples or Jesus Himself ever told us to do this? As Larry DeBruyn states:
Why are Christians seeking a divine presence that Jesus promised would abundantly flow in them? . . . Why do they need another voice, another visitation, or another vision? Why are some people unthankfully desirous of “something more” than what God has already given to us? Why is it that some Christians, in the depth of their souls, are not seemingly at rest?2
Is There a “Good” Spiritual Formation?
One of the most common arguments we hear defending Spiritual Formation is that there is a “good” Spiritual Formation done without contemplative prayer. To that we say, we have never yet seen a Spiritual Formation program in a school or a church that doesn’t in some way point people to the contemplative mystics. It might be indirectly, but in every case, if you follow the trail, it will lead you right into the arms of Richard Foster, Dallas Willard, and other contemplative teachers.
Think about this common scenario: A Christian college decides to begin a Spiritual Formation course. The instructor has heard some negative things about Richard Foster, Henri Nouwen, and Brennan Manning, and he figures he will teach the class “good Spiritual Formation” and leave those teachers completely out. But he’s going to need a textbook. He turns to a respected institution, Dallas Theological Seminary, and finds a book written by Paul Pettit, Professor in Pastoral and Education Ministries. The book is titled Foundations of Spiritual Formation. The instructor who has found this book to use in his own class may never mention Richard Foster or Dallas Willard, but the textbook he is using does. Within the pages of Pettit’s book is Richard Foster, Philip Yancey, N.T. Wright, Dallas Willard, Thomas Aquinas, Lectio Divina, Ayn Rand, Parker Palmer, Eugene Peterson, J.P. Moreland, Klaus Issler, Bruce Demarerst, Jim Burns, Kenneth Boa and Brother Lawrence’s “practicing God’s presence.” You may not have heard of all these names, but they are all associated with the mystical contemplative prayer movement and the emerging church.
Another example of this is Donald Whitney’s book Spiritual Disciplines for the Christian Life. Whitney is former Associate Professor at The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary and currently at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary. While his book does not promote contemplative mysticism, he says that Richard Foster has “done much good”3 in the area of Christian spirituality (which we believe is blatantly untrue).
Our point is that even if there is a sincere attempt to teach Spiritual Formation and stay away from the mystical side, we contend that it cannot be successfully accomplished because it will always lead back to the ones who have brought it to the church in the first place.
Spiritual formation is sweeping throughout Christianity today. It’s no wonder when the majority of Christian leaders have either endorsed the movement or given it a silent pass. For instance, in Chuck Swindoll’s book So You Want to Be Like Christ: 8 Essential Disciplines to Get You There, Swindoll favorably quotes Richard Foster and Dallas Willard. Swindoll calls Celebration of Discipline a “meaningful work”4 and Willard’s book The Spirit of the Disciplines “excellent work.”5 In chapter three, ”Silence and Solitude,” Swindoll talks about “digging for secrets . . . that will deepen our intimacy with God.”6 Quoting the contemplative poster-verse Psalm 46:10, “Be still, and know that I am God,” Swindoll says the verse is a call to the “discipline of silence.”7 As other contemplative proponents have done, he has taken this verse very much out of context.
Roger Oakland sums it up:
The Spiritual Formation movement . . . teaches people that this is how they can become more intimate with God and truly hear His voice. Even Christian leaders with longstanding reputations of teaching God’s word seem to be succumbing. . . .
We are reconciled to God only through his “death” (the atonement for sin), and we are presented “holy and unblameable and unreproveable” when we belong to Him through rebirth. It has nothing to do with works, rituals, or mystical experiences. It is Christ’s life in the converted believer that transforms him.8
“For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.” Romans 5:10
What Christians need is not a method or program or ritual or practice that will supposedly connect them to God. What we need is to be “in Christ” (1 Corinthians 1:30) and Christ in us. And He has promised His Spirit “will guide [us] into all truth” (John 16:13).
“But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption:” 1 Corinthians 1:30
In Colossians 1:9, the apostle Paul tells the saints that he was praying for them that they “might be filled with the knowledge of his will in all wisdom and spiritual understanding.” He was praying that they would have discernment (“spiritual understanding”). He said that God, the Father, has made us “partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light” (vs 12) and had “delivered us from the power of darkness [i.e., power of deception]” (vs. 13). But what was the key to having this wisdom and spiritual understanding and being delivered from the power of darkness? Paul tells us in that same chapter. He calls it “the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints” (vs. 26). What is that mystery? Verse 27 says: “To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory” (emphasis added).
For those wanting to get involved with the Spiritual Formation movement (i.e., contemplative, spiritual direction), consider the “direction” you will actually be going.
And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled in the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight: If ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel. (Colossians 1:21-23)
Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. For in him dwelleth all the fullness of the Godhead bodily. And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power. (Colossians 2: 8-10)
This article is an extract from the Lighthouse Trails booklet, Is Your Church Doing Spiritual Formation? (Important Reasons Why They Shouldn’t). To order this booklet, click here.
Endnotes:
1. Dallas Willard, “Spiritual Formation: What it is, and How it is Done” (https://dwillard.org/resources/articles/spiritual-formation-what-it-is-and-how-it-is-done).
2. Larry DeBruyn, “God’s Present of His Presence” (https://www.guardinghisflock.org/gods-present-of-his-presence/ ).
3. Donald Whitney, “Doctrine and Devotion: A Reunion Devoutly to be Desired” (http://web.archive.org/web/20080828052145/http://biblicalspirituality.org/devotion.html).
4. Chuck Swindoll, So You Want to Be Like Christ: 8 Essential Disciplines to Get You There (Nashville, TN:W Publishing Group, a div. of Thomas Nelson, 2005), p. 15.
5. Ibid., p. 13.
6. Ibid., p. 55.
7. Ibid.
8. Roger Oakland, Faith Undone (Eureka, MT: Lighthouse Trails Publishing, 2007), pp. 91-92.
This has been an extract from our booklet Is Your Church Doing Spiritual Formation? (Important Reasons Why It Shouldn’t). To order this booklet, click here.
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“So mightily grew the word of God and prevailed.” Acts 19:20
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I recently, “accidently” drove up this very narrow street only to realize that there was no turn around at the end. As God would have it, this man helped me back out of that street and received the spoken Word and a JESUS tract. Romans 8:28 right?
“Ephesians 3:20 was the very verse I prayed for you and the ministry this morning! And v16 as well. May the Spirit of God manifest His full grace and peace upon you today! And give you fruit, more fruit and much fruit! Amen.” Karen Cochran
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It dawns on me afresh today as it has since arriving here in Mexico, that these precious people so deeply hunger for Christ. Today, upon ministering to Victor and Juan and having Victor incessantly asking me about Christianity, Jesus, and being saved…. this was a fresh reminder of the great hunger and openness of the Mexican people. They want Jesus. Plain and simple. “HOW shall they hear without a preacher?” (Romans 10:14)
These two men were excited to know that you would be lifting them in prayer.
Victor and I are now connected by phone. So he will now be fed the Word of our God and be introduced to Spanish speaking disciples of our LORD Jesus.
Being limited in Spanish, I preached the Gospel, the Bible truth I am able to in Spanish and that including exhorting them both, today to repent and receive Jesus and did this while pointing to the prayer (oracion) on the back of the JESUS tract.
Would you like to kindly pause to lift these 2 dear men in prayer to our LORD?
JUST got a call from sister Teri in FL and had the opportunity to speak with brothers Scott and Jorge who were both recently saved by Jesus. Was also blessed to speak with a brother named Raymond who is a flourishing disciple of Jesus!
Thank you for your prayers and support which include our bless-ed opportunity of helping this group of disciples in FL.
Jesus is coming!
Recently…… Many received God’s Word today.
Brother Mark has recently joined in helping with our LORD’s Gospel in Mission Mexico and was amazed when he saw three grown men walking together who were ministered to and walk away, each of them with the JESUS tract open, as they walked read the message. They are that hungry.
The Mexico people deserve to hear our LORD’s glorious Gospel!
“I bet brother Mark is amazed at the response of the Mexican people when you guys go out and minister to them. To have so many hearts open and poor in spirit would be a shock at first. Total opposite of America—who say ‘I am rich, increased with goods have need of nothing!’ Revelation 3:17.
Praise God for the blessed ones who heard the engrafted word of our Lord, which is able to save their souls.” Karen
REPLY:
Yes He is amazing. They WANT it. They DESIRE it. They are like the woman who desires a man and so he marries her and they have a super blessed marriage for life. Instead of the wicked Jezebel woman who just wants to self-servingly shop for the man she can use to accomplish her selfish agenda.
“I was reading Mathew 21:23 this morning and it went through my mind that is what God said to America! ‘The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.’ And that nation is Mexico!“ Karen
“Truly amazing what God is doing in the hearts of the Mexican people. And now He is raising up disciples to bring into the harvest. He is LORD of the harvest. Have you heard of Chick Publications? I just read that they have sent 200,000 tracts to a Mexico missionary and more being ready to be sent. Southern Mexico. So God is sure flooding Mexico with His Word!” Karen Cochran
While walking over to get a haircut, I happened to spot a JESUS tract someone had placed on this vehicle. No it was not me. I didn’t put that tract there. Someone else did.
Then, 5 minutes later, after arriving at barber and sitting down in the chair, straight ahead in my line of sight, there’s a JESUS tract purposely set on display by the barber.
No matter how high prices get in Mexico, your cost of living will always be MUCH less than the USA. A raise awaits you, soon as you cross the border. Is God prompting you to “Go”? (Mark 16:15)
God is good all the time as you well know and thank you.
Your prayers to the Father in the name of our LORD Jesus are the heavenly fuel He uses to bless and empower and supply His people to do His work.
“For I know that this shall turn to my salvation through your prayer, and the supply of the Spirit of Jesus Christ,” Philippians 1:19
Yes Jesus is saving souls—the very mission He came to accomplish for all who will, right?
“And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.” Revelation 22:17
Every man in the picture below gladly received the spoken and printed Word (JESUS tract Spanish).
Beloved Maria.
HINT: There is plenty of opportunity to contribute to Mission Mexico. We are going to continue to feed the poor and minister Christ’s Gospel – regardless of the fumes we are presently operating on. Thank God for those who are praying and supporting. This opportunity to obey God, lies in front of each of us. What shall we do?
“It is more blessed to give than to receive.” Acts 20:35
To say that this ministry is under-funded is an understatement.
GOD is our Maker and Redeemer and He knows where He has and wants each of His children to be—where you already are or otherwise. The LORD is in control (Psalms 24:1). “The steps of a good man are ordered by the LORD: and he delighteth in his way.” Psalm 37:23 Last week Jesus saved this beloved woman, Katherine! See more on that salvation story here. Recently I commented under a Mexico video…. which received nearly 100 likes to date…. After leaving the USA and now living in Mexico, I began to see just how un-free and vulturous it was […]
“According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:” Ephesians 1:4
Holiness comes by the Savior in self denial (death and burial – the cross), not by self will or effort. Surrender is the cross – “NOT my will but thine be done” (Lk. 22:42) and “Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit” (Luke 23:46). We surrender to Christ by saying “Not my will but thine be done” dear Lord, by Your grace and the deliberate act of my own will I submit to the cross, the crucified life – where You alone reign supreme in this vessel (Luke 22:42; Galatians 2:20, etc.). I love You LORD Jesus! You must increase but I must decrease! (John 3:30)
Holiness, not happiness, is the divine command, the chief purpose and end of Christ’s salvation.
Of holiness, one disciple writes:
“Holiness speaks more to nature than it does conduct. Good conduct is the spontaneous byproduct of the new nature of the new creation man thru the cross and death to the old nature. We are new creatures in Christ (2 Cor. 5:17-18). To preach holiness as conduct without the new nature thru the cross understanding is legalism. Holiness is actually derived from ‘wholeness’ meaning the thorough transformation of the whole tripartite man (1 Thess 5:23). So many of these ‘holiness’ preachers are preaching nothing but conduct under law. Law arouses sinful passions and causes sin to increase and was given in order to provoke transgressions (Rom 7:5; 5:20; Gal 3:21). They are enemies of the cross!”
Holiness comes by way of the cross, not by way of the flesh. Just as sin was conquered by the cross of Christ, so sin in the life of the saint is conquered by the daily cross – the crucified life (Luke 9:23-24; Romans 6; Galatians 2:20; Colossians 3:3, etc.). It’s time to stop trying harder and to simply die deeper.
NOTICE: When a believer or group of believers backslides, they no longer separate from the transgressors who are unrepentant:
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