Divinely Inspired and Preserved
Many things establish that the King James Bible is the preserved Word of God for the English speaking peoples. Here’s one of those indicators.
“The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. 7 Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.” Psalms 12:6-7
See the fulfillment of this prophecy?
1. Tyndale Bible (1525)
2. Coverdale Bible (1535)
3. Matthews Bible (1537)
4. Great Bible (1538)
5. Geneva Bible (1560)
6. Bishop’s Bible (1568)
7. King James Bible (1611)
Read this again:
Psalms 12:6 – 7
6 The words of the LORD [are] pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
7 Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.
The King James Bible for the English speaking peoples, is the fulfillment of the divine prophecy, the promise of Psalms 12:6-7.
Some people have the mistaken idea that somehow, when God’s Word in translated from one language to another, its lost it’s power, its impact. Is this true? No.
This position is actually the spirit of agnosticism influencing people which blames God for dropping the ball, for neglecting to be a part of the affairs of men.
“The most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will.” Daniel 4:32
Beware of those who do not understand that God is sovereign, that “the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men” (Daniel 4:32). If the Most High rules in the kingdom of men, that means He’s active in the affairs of mankind – always has been and always will be because He “is love” (1 John 4:8, 16). The LORD Himself was in charge of the translation of His Word into English, as He promised to preserve it to all generations. This is a cornerstone truth in understanding the real English Bible vs the counterfeits. The LORD used God fearing men throughout HIS-story to make sure all generations had His written Word. THIS is a cornerstone truth that if not remembered, could lead to one being deceived. We call them “Bible agnostics” because they believe God exists and yet they do NOT believe He has been active in the affairs of men. Heresy.
“Behold, he that keepeth Israel shall neither slumber nor sleep.” Psalms 121:4
God oversaw the canon of His Word, just as He promised to do in Ps 12:6-7. It’s exactly how He desired, ordained it to be in the King James Bible. To say God checked out, was negligent, is a lie, is bearing false witness, and is an indictment against the Almighty (Psalms 121:4; Daniel 4:32, etc.). There were specific reasons those apocryphal books were not included in the real Bible, as opposed to the catholic “bible.”
Things to consider when questioning the canon of God’s Word….. God gave us what He wanted us to have in His 66 books …. God’s hand was on the putting together of His canon, His Word. The books that were rejected did not qualify. That doesn’t mean those excluded books don’t have some valuable information and yet, the LORD saw fit not to include them in the canon of His Word. Some use the term “Bible agnostics” for those who believe God lifted, took His holy hand off of the Bible, His Word, somewhere along the line. But Scripture assures us that such would be impossble.
To claim that God dropped the ball, that He didn’t keep His own word, and didn’t make sure the people of this day has His Word in their own language, just before He returns, is to say He is not love and does not care for those who are His children and alive on the earth today. To say that today we don’t have the in tact and fully living Word of God, is to completely pervert the character and truth the LORD has revealed to us of Himself.
To believe God inspired His Word in the originals and yet didn’t “preserve” them to every generation thereafter, is to indict God as being unloving, uncaring, and a liar, etc.
Oh and it seems that the people denying that we truly have God’s actual Word today, relish this as yet another excuse for them to live in sin. After all, we really don’t have and can’t understand God’s will, right? Wrong.
Did the LORD not make provision for His Word to be preserved to us?
Was His holy hand not integrally involved in the original inspiration and then the translating of His Word from one language to another for all generations?
Does He not know, dwell in, and integrally participate in the past, present, and future? (Isaiah 46:9-10).
Anyone who thinks God’s Word loses it’s power or anything He intended to import to us in His words, is missing what the divine import and promise of Psalms 12:6-7. And they are indicting God for not keeping this promise…. as if His Word doesn’t possess, loses it’s divine power due to being brought from one language to another. That is deception.
The answer is clear. No confusion here (1 Corinthians 14:33). Either God preserved His Word to us, or He lied. See Psalms 12:6-7 again. Read it slowly. Believe God.
God’s Word was perfectly translated in the King James Bible according to the foretold purpose of God. God’s Word is Inspired by Him and Preserved by Him.
Pride is the root sin that refuses to believe God kept His promise to preserve His Word, in tact to us (Psalms 12:6-7).
Pride wants to be able to manipulate things to fit its own self-serving agenda. Pride is rebellious, doing its own thing in lieu of doing God’s will.
Pride-filled rebels who want to arrogantly decide what truth is for themselves, instead of humble adhering to the words of our Maker, refuse to believe God’s Word is pure and perfectly preserved. Like lucifer, their father, they have their own agenda and will perish. This is why so many love the new, the corrupted fake news “bibles” of our day.
“Well, for me it has to be ALL or NOTHING. If I can’t have faith in the Word of God being pure and perfect, there is NOTHING to believe. How would we know which part is true and which is false? I would have to make up my own beliefs…and end up in Hell!” Debbie Lord
Do we or do we not have God’s Word in our language, English?
Deceived people can be seen regurgitating lies such as “if you want to be accurate study the original languages (Hebrew, Greek), original words and meanings.” This seems to come from those who are wise in their own eyes and want to be considered “deep” and/or desire to be able to manipulate the meaning of Scripture. They do not wish to simply learn of God in their own language.
“Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. 6 In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths. 7 Be not wise in thine own eyes: fear the LORD, and depart from evil.” Proverbs 3:5-7
Yet God told us that He preserved His Word to us in our own language (Psalms 12:6-7). To say we can’t understand God’s Word in our own language and need the original languages would mean that no one can know God and His Word without going to learn those 2 now dead languages. We must cease peddling this lie and indictment against the LORD.
Eric Martini writes:
“I don’t need to learn Hebrew or Greek in order to understand God’s Word. I trust the Holy Spirit’s leadership of the translators of the King James Bible as God fulfilled His promise to preserve His Word to us in our language (Psalms 12:6-7). There’s much more behind why I use the KJB from my years of studies. The Word for Occult means hidden. So why would I have to learn Hebrew to get a secret understanding of what God is saying? God gave me exactly what He wants me to know in my own language. I don’t need to learn Hebrew. The enemy wants us to think we have to learn Hebrew and Greek in order to give one word many possible shades of meanings. Before you know it one person can say the Hebrew means this. The other person will say nope it means that. This is all a tactic to change doctrine. I trust the preservation of Scripture by the Holy Spirit who promised to do just that and God is not a liar! There is a much bigger subtle issue going on that many men have found out. For example, Jacob Prasch is so obsessed with the Hebrew he’s now mixing God’s Word with talmudic Judaism. So much for knowing Hebrew. Look where it got Jacob Prasch – he’s apostate.” | Jacob Prasch Exposed: Metatron Deception Busted
Do We Have God’s Word or Do You Need to Know the Original Languages?
If we DO have His Word, did He intend for us not to be able to understand HIS own Word in our language? What would be the use of Him having kept His promise to give us His Word in our language if we couldn’t understand it? | Bible Agnostics Exposed
God only ordained one Bible for our language. No other Bible was needed in English when the LORD gave us the King James Bible. Satan flooded the market with his counterfeit “bibles” peddled by his agents working within.
Some people don’t want there to be the real Word of God because if they know God really did give us His Word, and preserved it for us today, then they are accountable. And, personal responsibility, accountability is a plague to be avoided by un-repentant hell bound counterfeits.
Recently, when interacting with a man on Bible versions, he said: “I would just love to get my hands on a first century Bible I think that would be cool.”
REPLY:
No need to brother. GOD kept His promise to preserve His Word to us in this generation – Read Ps 12:6-7. Also, it’s SATAN who casts doubt on whether we really have God’s Word today. It’s Satan who is the liar (John 8:44). The King James Bible is the fulfillment of God to the English speaking peoples of the world.
WHENEVER you hear some wolf reading the King James Bible say “well, a better translation would be”, that’s your clue to rebuke that arrogant devil!
The King James Bible is the perfect preserved Word of God for the English speaking people (Psalms 12:6-7). As is always the case, God kept His promise perfectly. The King James Bible cannot and will not be improved and anyone pretending such is a fraud.
IF you believe the demonic notion that somehow God Almighty dropped the ball and didn’t follow all the way through with giving this generation His very Word, you are a Bible agnostic. You are calling God a liar (Psalms 12:6-7). Bible Agnostics Exposed
Those who don’t believe God could or did preserve His Word are unbelieving, faithless – and openly call God a liar! One disciple captures this truth when he writes:
“Jesus (from what we know) spoke Aramaic. But that has no bearing on anything. What language did Adam speak? What language did Job speak? Whatever language they spoke, God could TRANSLATE PERFECTLY to them so that they would get the EXACT WORDS that He wanted delivered. Do you not believe that He who bore our sins, healed the blind and raised the dead can deliver a perfect Word?”
SO MANY clueless frauds, amateurs, arrogantly claiming to be the authority on the Bible. Very few of them care to learn a few things. They insist they know it all when they are completely ignorant of the truth about God’s Word and how He kept His promise to preserve it to us in our language (Psalms 12:6-7). This reveals some serious depth of darkness these people are in. If they are casting doubt on God’s Word, they are under the power of SATAN who’s the first one to cast doubt on God’s Word (Genesis 3:1). And, we “know them by their FRUIT.” (Matthew 7:16, 20) True repentance needed.
WHEN someone casts doubt on God’s Word, in any way, they reveal they are not obeying God’s Word and refuse to. They are unrepentant (John 3:19-21; 8:47).
IF God’s Word doesn’t matter to you it could only be due to God Himself not mattering to you. If you have a King James Bible you have God’s Authentic Word in your own language and not a cheap counterfeit from the enemy of Christ and all souls.
Beware of those who want to refer to and rely upon the Hebrew and Greek because they simply do not like what the Bible, the Word of God says, in English, in their own language. They don’t believe God preserved His perfect Word to us in English – as He promised to do (Pslams 12:6-7). Many of them learned this in their vatican infiltrated seminaries and “bible” colleges. They were taught, not to believe, but rather to question God, to question His words – and we know where that comes from when we read Genesis 3:1, the serpent, Satan himself – the first to cast doubt upon and question God’s Word/words.
Learn Hebrew and Greek??? WHAT kind of a God would make/want people to not be able to understand HIS Word preserved in their own language and therefore make them have to go learn to read and write 2 now dead, foreign languages (Hebrew and Greek)? NOT the God of the Bible – who promised to preserve and make understandable His Word to us in our own language! (Psalms 12:6-7)
WHY would God have gone through the trouble of keeping His own promise to have His Word translated into our language if we weren’t going to be able to understand it in our own language? THAT is an indictment against the Almighty and some are foolishly making such an indictment.
LIFE CHANGING! No true Christian can grow in the grace of God as HE intends without pure, organic divine nutrition which is the preserved Word of God to the English speaking peoples, the King James Bible. This is something I want to encourage you to learn…. fascinating truth. The promise of God to us in Psalms 12:6-7.
God sovereignly made sure everything He wanted in His Word, the Bible, is there. Beware of those who cast doubt on this by their “lost books” notion.
The idea that there are ANY lost books is pure fiction and just another lie of Satan to make believers think they don’t have everything they need, that God shorted them (see Genesis 3:1). Satan is always the one casting doubt on God’s Word. Jesus says Satan is the one who “taketh away the word.” (Mark 4:15) This is not only laughable, it’s an indictment against a Holy God. GOD oversaw HIS cannon of Holy Scripture and decided it would contain 66 books. God’s Word assures us that “ALLLLLLL things that pertain unto life and godliness” are found in the “exceeding great and precious promises” of His written Word which we have in the King James Bible. Read 2 Peter 1:3-4 and 19-21 and Psalms 12:6-7.
God promised to preserve His Word to all generations and that would clearly mean the Word we have is divinely inspired with nothing lost. If you don’t believe that God has given us His Word in our day, you are calling God a liar and currently an agnostic which perhaps means you are not accountable to God in your life and so don’t want to believe we really have His Word today. Some wish to excuse their own sin by saying we don’t have God’s Word and surmise therefore that we are not accountable. Isn’t this the same principle of the driver who is pulled over for speeding, denying to the officer that there was a speed limit sign? We all know that won’t fly. – “they are without excuse.” (Romans 1:20)
Recently someone sent me a post that pretended to prove that the King James Bible is not God’s exclusive Word for the English speaking peoples. The first sentence gave away their erroneous position. The writer was saying that only the original manuscripts were inspired which is an unmitigated lie that denies that God kept His Word, His promise to preserve His Word to us – which transcends language (Psalms 12:6-7) This is what we call Bible agnosticism – where some people believe that God exists and yet is not active in the affairs of men, and has basically forsaken His creation. They claim He lied by not preserving His Word to us in our language as He specifically promised to do (Psalms 12:6-7). Ridiculous.
No need to read the ancient manuscripts – because God promised to preserve His Word to us in our language and He did in the KJB (Ps 12:6-7). With all due respect, did you know the BLOOD you claim to be washed in is removed from Colossians 1:14. Is that okay with you? 4 Verse KJB Comparison
Sherry Todd writes:
“The King James Bible is the very Word of God. You can reject it if you choose. I’m not going to. Didn’t turn out too well for king Saul did it? Rejecting the Word of the Lord brings dire consequences. No thanks. So you claim that the original text are perfect but not our Bible in English? Do you realize that you are saying that God decided that none of us today should have the incorruptible Word? Instead He gave us partial truths and is hiding His Word from us? Not. And you came to this conclusion how? You had to reject many verses to come to that conclusion including the direct promise of God in Psalms 12:6-7 to preserve His Word to all generations – that includes us! ‘God is not a man, that he should lie.’ (Numbers 23:19)”—- IF PEOPLE can somehow convince themselves to think that God’s Word is not perfect and that most of it was “lost in translation,” they think they are somehow free to live as they wish or not truly die to self and conform to Christ in the daily cross. Self-idolatry and rebellion lie at the inner root of this. These are what some call “Bible agnostics.” Bible agnostics are those who believe that God gave us His Word originally but didn’t care enough to preside over the translation of it into our language …. as if to say the LORD is not still actively involved in His creation and the protection and blessing of His people, which is completely false and an evil indictment against the Almighty. This would be to say that God has changed and also that He doesn’t care about His own people today. Pure satanic lies. These people have bought the lie of Satan who was the first to cast doubt on God’s Word when he said “Hath God said?” (Genesis 3:1) In other words, did God REALLY mean that? Well, of course God meant what He had stated and booted the man and woman from His presence (the Garden) when they sinned (Genesis 3). Satan is today still doing this same exact thing by casting doubt on the perfect work of God who has preserved His Word for us (the English speaking people) in the King James Bible as He promised He’d do (Psalms 12:6-7). It’s not so much about the King James Bible as much as the manuscripts from which they came. The King James Bible comes from the Majority manuscripts while all the new versions were intentionally taken from the Catholic corrupted and controlled manuscripts (by satanic design). If you read a new version, you are reading a Catholic “bible.”
James Sanford writes:
“How can you be so blind on the issue of Bible preservation? Modern translations are the Catholic Church’s means to ‘divide and conquer’ Bible believing Christianity, and the reason (Isa. 1:18) for us being in the end times of apostasy. Paul said to Timothy, in verse one of chapter four, ‘…in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils.’ Where do you suppose these doctrines of devils, and confusion, come from? I could go on and on, but let the King James speak for itself: ‘For we are not as many which corrupt the word of God…’ (2 Cor. 2:17a)”
“I will worship toward thy holy temple, and praise thy name for thy lovingkindness and for thy truth: for thou hast magnified thy word above all thy name.” Psalms 138:2
Here’s how we know the new versions are corrupt – because God does not change and they changed His Word. “Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away.” (Mark 13:31)
God’s Word is Inspired and Preserved. The divine Word He gave to us is not only inspired but also preserved by Him. Did the LORD just inspire His Word and then walk away? Are we agnostic? He not only inspired but also preserved His written Word to mankind so we could know and follow Him and be protected from His enemies (Psalms 12:6-7). It’s Satan himself and his human agents, who have warred against God’s Word.
Please never question or correct the Authorized Bible…. It is God’s preserved Word for the English speaking people of His world (Ps 12:6-7). It’s our understanding that lacks, never God’s Word. As we continue to study the full counsel of His Word all things come clear.
Arrogant King James Bible Correctors Rebuked
Most believe the Bible is divinely inspired and that’s true and yet, many believe God somehow dropped the ball and forgot about subsequent generations. Is this true? Let’s reason according to the Word.
So, since all versions of the Bible are different, are we to believe they are all inspired and preserved?
Tampering with God’s Word distorts the perfect image of Jesus Christ because He has chosen to be revealed to the hearts of men by His Word as taught by His written Word. Changing those words He inspired corrupts the message and the image of Christ revealed through that communication.
“Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they (the Scriptures) ARE they which testify of me.” John 5:39
God Himself told us that He reveals Himself to us through His written Word (Luke 24:44; John 5:39-40; 20:31, etc.). And, He further told us that His will and wisdom are synonymous with His written Word (Psalms 119:105, etc.).
The Message and amplified “Bibles” are where sinful man inserted his own thoughts into the text and then called it God’s Word … in my opinion, we are to simply accept that God kept His Word; that He: 1) inspired His Word to us (2 Timothy 3:16) and, that He also “preserved” His Word to our generation (Psalms 12:6-7). That preserved Word is clearly the King James Bible.
AS WAS FORETOLD (REVELATION 12:7-12), SATAN HAS RELEASED HIS FURY (WRATH) AGAINST THE LORD AND MANKIND WITH THESE CORRUPT VERSIONS THAT ARE WEAKENING, SICKENING, AND MISLEADING MILLIONS WHO VAINLY THINK THEY HAVE AND ARE READING GOD’S WORD IN THESE MODERN fake news FAIRY TALE “bible” VERSIONS.
GOD’S WORD IS …
INSPIRED
“All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:” 2 Timothy 3:16
PRESERVED
“The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. 7 Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.” Psalms 12:6-7
“purified seven times” – In specific, perfect fulfillment of His promise, the KJB is the 7th Bible in the lineage of English language Bible, which began with the Gothic language in the first century which is the beginning of what is now the English language.
God’s Word is Inspired by Him and Preserved by Him, Yes God kept His Promise to Preserve His Word to Our Generation.
To say that God inspired His written Word (2 Timothy 3:16) and then to turn around and say He didn’t preserve those Holy Scriptures (Psalms 12:6-7), is a blasphemous indictment against Him. To say such is to call the LORD a liar because He promised to preserve His Word to our generation. It also says that God has respect of persons while His Word says “There is no respect of persons with God.” (Romans 2:11) So there is yet another accusation against the Almighty – another instance in which He is being called a liar. To insinuate that the LORD cared for earlier generations of people more than now is a dangerous undertaking.
We can know that if God inspired His Word He also preserved it to our generation. He kept His promise and yet there is a great deceiver working among men and his human emissaries. All the English versions of the Bible cannot possibly be divinely inspired. They are clearly and demonstratively different in word and doctrine. So where should one draw the line? For me, the decision is simple. The King James Bible is God’s preserved Word to the English speaking world. The corruption in the new versions is nothing more than a catalyst for my heart to be grateful to our LORD for giving us His true Word. I have never been so thankful to Him for inspiring and preserving His written Word to us so that we can know Him, remain in Him, and be delivered from the evil wiles of Satan.
It’s a dangerous undertaking to insert our own thoughts into the text of the Bible and then say it’s the Bible … those men are in severe trouble who have even slightly altered the very Word of God (Rev 22:18-19).
Do you want to be a part of a cursed thing?
“For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: 19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.” Revelation 22:18-19
WHY DID THE LORD GIVE US HIS WRITTEN WORD?
So We May Know Him
— We have God’s written Word in order to be able to have that relationship with the LORD – otherwise we could not know Him.
“But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.” John 20:31
That written Word has been displaced by these corrupted versions of God’s Word and they are misleading many. This is an integral part of the great falling away (great apostasy). See 2 Thessalonians 2.
The Bible tells us that the Holy Scriptures were not given to us by the will of mere men – “For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.” (2 Peter 1:21)
“No prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.” (2 Peter 1:21) – We can only prayerfully and according to the full counsel of Scripture give the sense of the Holy Scriptures (Nehemiah 8:8; Isaiah 28:10, 13; 1 Corinthians 2:13) (help them understand what Scripture states) but have no license to insert our thoughts into the text and claim it’s divinely inspired. God has never and will never grant any mere human being such a place. We have the Bible, which contains the divinely inspired Holy Scriptures “holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.” (2 Peter 1:21) Those involved in the new versions are “men of corrupt minds” with great audacity of rebellion.
“We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts: 20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. 21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost. 2 Peter 1:20-21
Where Does Mankind Obtain the Knowledge of the LORD His God and Maker?
How do we know about Jesus who died for us? By His Word. Where is John 3:16? In the Qur’an or the Bible? That being true, then we must realize that the enemy of Christ has corrupted His Words and then called it His Word.
The presence of the LORD is important but following His Word is more important … Then, upon that truth and protected by it, we can experience His presence and know it’s Him and not a devil.
His written Word is the very lamp unto our feet and light unto our paths so we will not be misled by a false gospel or another spirit.
The longest chapter in the Bible is on His written Word. This further underscores the importance He places on His written Word and hence the severe judgment upon those who would so much as slightly tamper with it. He has magnified His written Word even above His name (Psalms 138:2).
Jesus says that the Holy Spirit is the Teacher and if we simply put forth the pure Word of God, He will teach them (John 14:26; 16:13; 1 John 2:20; 27).
“So they read in the book in the law of God distinctly, and gave the sense (understanding, wisdom), and caused them to understand the reading.” Nehemiah 8:8
Note here that the elders of Israel, after and while reading directly from the Holy Scriptures – “caused them to understand the reading.” Causing folk to peer into, pay attention to, and read the Holy Word and also helping them understand what it’s communicating is divinely sanctioned in the important passage. There is much insight here. Notice that the elders humbly read the Word of God. They did nothing to insert their own thoughts, to question the text, to add to it or take from it, or to change the text.
Placing a commentary in the margin next to the Bible with the earnest goal of helping the reader understand what the Scriptures are saying is a form of giving “the sense” of what is being communicated by the LORD. This is in order to help the reader understand the text and never to take them outside of the text. Yet that’s as far as man is given license to go. Going further is a violation of Revelation 22:18-19 where the LORD pronounces eternal condemnation upon any mere man who would tamper with (add to or take away from) His written Word. The new versions are completely corrupted by man’s contaminating thoughts that were audaciously inserted into the text of Scripture.
Example of Attacks Against God in the New Versions:
—- IN JOHN 3:16 THE NIV (not inspired version) says: “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.” NOTE that supposedly referring to Jesus, saying that He is the “one and only Son.” Yet is this correct? No. This is a contradiction of other verses in the New Testament where we are said to be “the sons of God” and so how could Jesus be the “one and only Son”? More importantly, this idea purposely replaces the Bible doctrine of the virgin birth which is an essential to being saved. Jesus Christ was the only One in all of history to be born of a virgin – “Begotten of God” In the King James Bible, God’s pure and preserved Word says: “he gave his only begotten Son.” Jesus was the only begotten Son of God …the only One whom the Father brought through a virgin as a sign that He is the Messiah and so His blood was not contaminated by a sinful man (father) See Isaiah 7:14; 9:6-7 …. The divine heavenly Father was His Father … With the exception of Adam who was made of the dust of the earth, Jesus was the only sinless human ever born and of course we know He was more than human – He was and is and will always be God Almighty (Revelation 1:8). This is an attack on a cardinal doctrine of the Christian faith and just one more of thousands of attacks against the LORD in the new versions of the Bible which were translated from corrupt manuscripts. More on this here: Ridiculous King James Bible Corrections
QUESTION ASKED:
“So what about everyone before kjv? They didn’t have authoritative scripture? Are you suggesting King James had the right message and Paul and James and John and everyone else, like Geneva Bible were wrong? Also where did the KJV get the manuscript, before it was a book?”
REPLY:
Of course there was authoritative Scripture before the KJB. The KJB comes from the preserved manuscripts instead of the lineage of corrupt manuscripts which is where the enemy got his new version “bibles.” It’s obvious which English Bible is the preserved Word of God for the English speaking peoples – in keeping with the promise God gave in Ps 12:6-7. Comparing verses side by side between the KJB and the new “bibles” makes it more than obvious that the KJB is God’s Word. Lineage of the Corrupt Manuscripts
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“What is our language and when do you see that promise? The Lord promised to preserve His Word. His Word is for a people of all nations and tribes and tongues so what makes you assume that English was the final language the Bible would be in?”
REPLY:
Not at all. Common misconception. There are 2 lines of manuscripts – 1 of God (Majority Text) and 1 of Satan (appr 2-3% altered manuscripts). So it’s not about the English language but rather the underlying manuscripts. Appr. 98% of all the manuscripts in existence agree. The ones that differ are those which were perverted by evil men. All the new version “bibles” comes from the corrupted lineage of manuscripts. Yet, if you are a man of truth, a simple side-by-side comparison will clear things up with no need to know about he manuscripts. I don’t mean to insinuate that you aren’t a God fearing man and yet, it’s clear that you should do a bit of investigating. Lineage of the Modern Corrupt Versions | 4 Verse Comparison
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“The original text was Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek. Not 16th Century English. Just sayin'”
REPLY:
Hello. Not a good answer. Here’s why…. English was at it’s highest form in previous centuries (note in the Scriptures the term “holy and profane” where profane means common). God’s Word was never to be reduced to the common language especially when the gullible have been taught that it’s “easier to understand” yet not told that the new “bibles” stripped and perverted volumes of God’s Word). Hebrew and Greed are dead languages (not growing)…. the LORD promised to preserve His Word to us in our language, did He not? Did He lie? Read Ps 12:6-7.
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“If one has the other translations at their finger tips, and we do in this internet age, we owe it to ourselves to do comparisons and word studies, since we are easily able to now. We can go to the original Greek and Hebrew and really study deeply. I have discovered our well loved King James has used words that we don’t use anymore in English or the meaning has changed and when we read it is not giving today’s reader the exact meaning… so to be able to compare is best if you are a Bible student doing Bible study. Otherwise the Holy Spirit is with us when we study and pray and you will get what you need from the King James.” Michelle
REPLY:
Hi Michelle. Myself and many others have no respect for the other versions due to their butchering of God’s Word … for example, look at this comparison … frightening in light of what Jesus warned of in Revelation 22:18-19 … KJV vs. NIV
KNOWING Hebrew and Greek is NOT the most reliable way to understand God’s Word. In fact, you don’t even need it. And, the dupes running around saying you have to know Hebrew and Greek to understand the Word, can’t speak or write in Hebrew or Greek. Laughable. The Bible tell us how to understand the Bible!
Jesus told us that the divine Person of the Holy Spirit is our Teacher – not the Greek or Hebrew (original languages) (John 14:26; 16:13-14; 1 John 2:20, 27, etc.). Yes it’s good to look at the Hebrew and Greek here and there but His Word in our language, which He preserved (Psalms 12:6-7) and Himself are more than able to teach us. In fact, the very best way to learn is actually a system He put in His Word – line upon line learning – stacking Precept upon Precept (Isaiah 28:10, 13; 1 Corinthians 2:13). Thoroughly studying a topic by searching and stacking (collating) Scripture upon Scripture which speaks of that subject you are peering into, is the ultimate method to apprehend the mind of Christ on any topic … Not the original languages.
The good news is that we have God’s preserved Word and have no need to look further but rather to simply peer deeper into it. The new versions are corrupt and in my opinion should be shunned and discarded as any type of source. The King James Bible is a direct translation into the English language. The new version editors used “dynamic equivalence” which means they used/inserted their own thoughts. That’s a no-no and forbidden by God (Revelation 2:18-19). Correcting God’s Word is something I will not agree with. Show us where the KJB misses it? … the KJB uses Sodom and sodomy. Only the new versions use toned down, sin-justifying language to lessen conviction upon the hearts of sinners. Sodom was the city God judged for the specific sin of men with men. What KJB word can you not personally look up in the Hebrew and Greek to learn a bit further what it means? Do you have access to Webster’s dictionary (especially the older one)? It’s online.
The blessed brothers and sisters on the links I posted above have done detailed research for our benefit to uncover the dark, diabolical scheme of Satan to pervert the Word of our God. Please look at them … also Gail Riplinger’s books are very enlightening on this topic … there are many others also. AVpublications.com
Lamar Tucker notes:
“THE KING JAMES BIBLE UNDER ATTACK
We now have ‘educated’ idiots trying to discredit the Bible because as they claim it does not fit into or translate the way they think it should have been. The Bible does NOT make mistakes. IF one studies the Bible as a whole they will always find that God intended and did supply the reason for everything written. God knew that these so called scholars would come and he supplied a pure Language for the Bible to be translated in…The English Language.
Zephaniah 3 9 ‘For then will I turn to the people a pure language, that they may all call upon the name of the LORD, to serve him with one consent.’”
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“I stopped reading the NIV about 3 years ago, I have grown so much as a believer since reading the KJV (the true word of God) but until it is shown for what it is (a counterfeit) by standing it up next to the KJV, it is hard to know a counterfeit on its own without comparison. The more I looked into it, the more I see the force behind the NIV…Satan. God bless you brother, the more brothers and sisters get to know the difference the better.
I never knew why was I was not growing, or learning as a believer till i realized it was what I was putting inside me spiritually as spiritual food, I wouldn’t say the NIV is poison, it just has no nutritional value, this is what Satan wants. He knows he can’t stop people reading the Bible, so he invented one of his own…NEW INVENTED VERSION. Look how many churches read from it!…And look at the state of the modern church!!” T. | Bible Versions
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Apostasy
“The Certainty of the Words of Truth” [podcast]
Nicholas, the Apostate Deceiver
Historians say that Nicholas (Acts 6:5), a deacon in the first century church, backslid, and led his followers to believe that living in sin would not affect one’s relationship with Christ. The term Nicolaitans is said to come from those who followed Nicholas. Nico-laitans is a compound Greek word. Nico means “to conquer,” and laitans means “the laity.” Satan used Nicholas to conquer his followers through the lie of lawlessness. The evil spirit of Nicholas lives on today through many lawless leaders who operate in the church world in this late hour.
Nicholas taught free love. He and his followers taught that the deeds of believers could not affect their relationship with God. This is antinomianism, which means lawlessness. The Bible clearly refutes such a lie as we will witness in our walk through the Holy Scriptures.
“Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.” 2 Timothy 2:19
“They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.” Titus 1:16
The Bible states here, that those who “profess that they know God” and yet “deny him…in works,” are “abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.”
By this lie of lawlessness, the enemy of souls conquered the people.
“But this thou hast, that thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitans (means “conquer the laity”), which I also hate…So hast thou also them that hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitans, which thing I hate.” Revelation 2:6, 15
Here is some modern terminology for this age-old doctrine:
- Once Saved, Always Saved
- Eternal security (unconditional)
- Calvinism, perseverance of the saints doctrine
In Revelation 2, Jesus Christ tells us that He “hates” two things — “the deeds” and “doctrine of the Nicolaitans.” The Son of God despises the doctrine that teaches that the deeds of men have no effect upon their relationship with Him.
The Scriptures continuously reveal the divine hatred for the acceptance, and even doctrinal authorization, for living in the sins which the LORD tells us violate His holiness, reveal a wicked heart, and will prevent one from entering into the kingdom of God (1 Corinthians 6:9-10; Galatians 5:19-21; Revelation 21:8, 27).
The word “lasciviousness” appears six times in the Bible and means “lack of restraint (from sinning); license for sin; licentiousness.”
To underscore the utter, divine hatred against this lie of lawlessness, it should be noted that this is the only place in Scripture where Jesus Christ, Himself, states that He hates something.
Though they may vary in packaging, these are all kin to the same lawless “ye shall not surely die” lie, which is the lie of the ages.
“Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the Lord your God which I command you.” Deuteronomy 4:2
“For ye have perverted the words of the living God, of the Lord of hosts our God.” Jeremiah 23:36b
“Thus saith the Lord; Stand in the court of the Lord’s house, and speak unto all the cities of Judah, which come to worship in the Lord’s house, all the words that I command thee to speak unto them; diminish not a word.” Jeremiah 26:2
“For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: 19 and if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.” Revelation 22:18-19
“Hath God said” ?
Always remember that whenever you have someone casting doubt on God’s Word, words, you are dealing with a person who is under Satan’s control, is a rejecter of the LORD, and therefore His truth, and is a child of the devil. Every time.
Notice what we see Satan doing in the Garden of Eden just before he changed, altered, added one word to God’s words:
“Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?” Genesis 3:1
Then, in verse 4 we read how Satan added just one three-letter word which changed the meaning of what God said and changed world history.
“And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:” Genesis 3:4
“But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.” Genesis 2:17
“Thou shalt surely die” from God was then changed by Satan to “Ye shall NOT surely die.”
This is the first time we see what’s known as the “eternal security” lie. It’s also known as “once saved always saved” or “perseverance of the saints” heresy. Any person teaching or believeing this lie has partnered with Satan himself.
Knowing “the certainty of the words of truth”
“Bow down thine ear, and hear the words of the wise, and apply thine heart unto my knowledge.
18 For it is a pleasant thing if thou keep them within thee; they shall withal be fitted in thy lips.
19 That thy trust may be in the Lord, I have made known to thee this day, even to thee.
20 Have not I written to thee excellent things in counsels and knowledge,
21 that I might make thee know the certainty of the words of truth; that thou mightest answer the words of truth to them that send unto thee? Proverbs 22:17-21
“that I might make thee know the certainty of the words of truth” – and how can we “know the certainty of the words of truth” if we aren’t even reading them – if we are not reading the preserved Word of God but rather a cheap counterfeit?
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Apostasy
8 Classes of Sinners Guaranteed to Spend Eternity in the Lake of Fire [podcast]
8 Classes of Sinners Guaranteed to Spend Eternity in Hell
“But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.” Revelation 21:8
“The second death”
[which is the second death] The second death is the lake of fire, or the second separation from God in hell (Rev_2:11; Rev_20:14; Rev_21:8).
Of Revelation 21:8, Adam Clarke writes the following:
Revelation 21:8
But the fearful – Δειλοις· Those who, for fear of losing life or their property, either refused to receive the Christian religion, though convinced of its truth and importance; or, having received it, in times of persecution fell away, not being willing to risk their lives.
And unbelieving – Those who resist against full evidence. And sinners, και ἁμαρτωλοις, is added here by about thirty excellent MSS., and is found in the Syrian, Arabic, some of the Slavonic, and in Andreas and Arethas. On this evidence Griesbach has admitted it into the text.
The abominable – Εβδελυγμενοις· Those who are polluted with unnatural lust. (sodomites, lesbians Romans 1)
And murderers – Φονευσι· Those who take away the life of man for any cause but the murder of another, and those who hate a brother in their heart (.
And whoremongers – Πορνοις· Adulterers, fornicators, whores, prostitutes, and rakes of every description.
Sorcerers – Φαρμακοις· Persons who, by drugs, philtres, fumigations, etc., pretend to produce supernatural effects, chiefly by spiritual agency.
Idolaters – Ειδωλολατραις· Those who offer any kind of worship or religious reverence to any thing but God. All image worshippers are idolaters in every sense of the word.
And all liars – Και πασι τοις ψευδεσι· Every one who speaks contrary to the truth when he knows the truth, and even he who speaks the truth with the intention to deceive; i.e., to persuade a person that a thing is different from what it really is, by telling only a part of the truth, or suppressing some circumstance which would have led the hearer to a different end to the true conclusion. All these shall have their portion, το μερος, their share, what belongs to them, their right, in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone. This is the second death, from which there is no recovery.
“21:8 But not all are overcomers. Some are cowardly, afraid to confess Christ; unbelieving, unwilling to trust the sinner’s Savior; sinners, all those who remain in their sins, whether guilty of the gross iniquities listed here or not; abominable, given over to disgusting immorality; murderers, malicious and savage killers; sexually immoral, practicing fornication and other forms of sexual sins; sorcerers, those who traffic with evil spirits; idolaters, insulting God by worshiping images; and all liars, compulsive deceivers. These will be assigned to the lake of fire as their final destiny.” Believer’s Bible Commentary
“And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. … 14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. 15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.” Revelation 20:10, 14-15
One source notes the following:
“Brimstone and fire” refers to the fiery imagery of divine judgment and eternal punishment found in the Bible. It symbolizes God’s wrath, often describing the fate of sinners in hell, and is a phrase used in religious sermons and literature. “Brimstone,” an old word for sulfur, is a key component of this imagery, evoking a smell and heat associated with inescapable, fiery destruction.
Biblical origins
Old Testament:
The phrase originates in the King James translation of the Old Testament, used to describe God’s destruction of enemies. A key example is the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah.
New Testament:
The imagery is used to describe eternal damnation, a common theme in both the Old and New Testaments. In the book of Revelation, for example, it describes those who worship the beast being tormented in a lake of fire and brimstone.
Etymology:
The phrase is a calque of the Biblical Hebrew and Ancient Greek words for “sulfur and fire”.
Geological evidence:
Archaeological and geological evidence of sulfur deposits and charred formations in areas like the Dead Sea region have been noted as consistent with biblical descriptions of fire and sulfur-related events.”
“But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.” Matthew 8:12
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Articles
The Purpose of Elders in Christ’s Body [podcast]
There is no more important work transpiring in the earth today than the work of the Gospel of Jesus Christ (Matthew 9:35-38; 28:18-20; Ephesians 4:11-15; 1 Peter 5:1-6, etc.).
“Now the God of peace, that brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, that great shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the everlasting covenant, 21 Make you perfect in every good work to do his will, working in you that which is wellpleasing in his sight, through Jesus Christ; to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.” Hebrews 13:20-21
In short, the authentic under-shepherd ordained of Jesus Himself (John 15:16), will give up his life in this fleeting world for the sheep of Christ – just as the Great Shepherd of the sheep did on the cross. Such a divinely called-out man, will teach only God’s pure Word and watch for the souls of the LORD’s people (Hebrews 13:7, 17). He will take up the cross – live the crucified life – and therefore ministry will not be about them but rather about Jesus and His beloved sheep for whom He shed His blood and is soon returning (Philippians 3:17-21).
Also in Hebrews 13 …. The true elder of Christ will, according to Hebrews 13, do two things:
- Speak the pure Word of God to you and get you into it:
“Remember them which have the rule over you, who have spoken unto you the word of God: whose faith follow, considering the end of their conversation (their way of life).” Hebrews 13:7
2. Will in the fear of God pray for and “watch for your soul.”
“Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.” Hebrews 13:17
In review, just WHAT are the earmark fruits of true under-shepherds as opposed to the many wolves among us?
- True under shepherds relentlessly teach God’s Word – “who have spoken unto you the word of God.” (Hebrews 13:7)
- They are there for you! – “they watch for your souls.” (Hebrews 13:7)
IF they aren’t preaching God’s pure Word to you, fearing God, not you…. and watching for your eternal soul, they are wolves in sheep’s clothing. Repent and run to Jesus beloved.
Let me add that if they are using a fake “bible” instead of the King James Bible, that should be a clue to the darkness they walk in (Matthew 7:16, 20).
Elders are ordained of God and yet never to take His place nor to negate our own personal responsibility to seek God daily for ourselves. Yet, we do not need a preacher. Why? – because we each have a Bible. Read it. We don’t need a preacher to tell us what the Bible says! Read it for yourself, learning of the LORD yourself. Today is your day to take personal responsibility to seek God for yourself! Stop depending on a preacher or preachers. Devour God’s Word daily. Jesus taught personal responsibility and the essential nature of it when He said “Take heed to yourselves” (Luke 21:34-36) …… Paul instructed Timothy to “Study” the Word (2 Timothy 2:15).
Today we have all around us church-goers who are not possessed with a heart after God, do not diligently study and read and live out Christ’s Word. This lukewarm, world-loving fruit clearly reveals the prophesied priesthood of wolves (1 Chronicles 16:11; Psalms 27:4, 8; Matthew 24:11; Acts 13:22; 2 Timothy 3:13; 1 John 4:1, etc.). Until a pastor has provoke you to get into God’s Word for yourself, to seeking His holy face daily in prayer, he has failed. If has has diligently, biblically sought to do these essentials, and people have refused God’s Word, refused to seek His holy face continually, the blood is off of his hands (Ezekiel 3:18-20).
“When I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; and thou givest him not warning, nor speakest to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life; the same wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand. 19 Yet if thou warn the wicked, and he turn not from his wickedness, nor from his wicked way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul. 20 Again, When a righteous man doth turn from his righteousness, and commit iniquity, and I lay a stumblingblock before him, he shall die: because thou hast not given him warning, he shall die in his sin, and his righteousness which he hath done shall not be remembered; but his blood will I require at thine hand.” Ezekiel 3:18-20
When you check the fruit of a fellowship, check, discern if the individual saints are vibrant in Christ, diligently seeking His holy face, in His Word, living a life of prayer, denying self, taking up the cross daily, and following Jesus. This sounds like what we see of the earliest saints in the book of Acts, right? Boom. Remember how Peter preached and 8,000 were saved and how the Berean believers put Paul’s teaching to the Scriptural test? (Acts 2-4; 17:10-11, etc.).
Sadly, usually you see a bunch of people who are proud to be a member of a church with none of the biblical fruit list above.
The apostle Paul kept a close watch on those he oversaw.
“For this cause, when I could no longer forbear, I sent to know your faith, lest by some means the tempter have tempted you, and our labour be in vain.” 1 Thessalonians 3:5
Having a physical “church” building makes no mere man, no supposed elder, an official representative of Heaven. Feeding the sheep of Christ with His pure Word and equipping them “for the work of the ministry” is the mark of a true under-shepherd of Christ (John 21:15-17; Ephesians 4:11-12, etc.). Discern. Beware. Inspect the fruit. Jesus nor any of His holy apostles collected a penny to build a building called “church.” No, they went to the people – to serve them instead of having the people come to them.
Let’s test that…. How many people do you personally know who are good church members, Sunday morning church attenders, and ALSO true, daily disciples whom God is using everywhere they go? Think about that…. How many true disciples of Jesus do you know who are involved in a Sunday morning church program? If you personally know even one true disciple, that’s a miracle and in spite of his attendance at the Sunday morning circus called “church.”
Unlike Christ’s apostle Paul, most in leadership today foster in their prey a dependence on THEM and their church business instead of prayerfully, biblically exhorting people to depend on Jesus (1 Corinthians 1:29-2:5).
Like Christ’s apostle Paul, the true elder labors relentlessly to see you grounded in Christ – not in him or his ministry or church, but in CHRIST! Listen closely:
“As ye have therefore received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk ye in him: 7 Rooted and built up in him, and stablished in the faith, as ye have been taught, abounding therein with thanksgiving.” Colossians 2:6-7
It simply doesn’t matter what else he’s doing, if any minister is not prayerfully, biblically, perpetually rooting and grounding you in Christ, he’s a fraud. Run.
Like Jesus and His holy apostle Paul, part of grounding you ever more deeper in Christ, is warning you to “beware” of the “many false prophets.” (Matthew 24:11)
“Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. 9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. 10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:” Colossians 2:8-10
SO, he’s not exhorting and admonishing you to seek and know the LORD in an ever deepening fashion? He’s not equipping, maturing you “for the work of the ministry” and yet you still consider him one of the LORD’s under-shepherds? He’s not getting YOU into the Word (2 Timothy 2:15) for yourself? That’s a false leader who is entertaining the goats instead of feeding and equipping the saints! Run! (See Ephesians 4:11-15; 1 Peter 5:1-6, etc.)
False leaders divert the attention, the heart affections, the resources, and the energy of God’s people away from Christ and simple obedience to His Great Commission mandate. YOU are personally responsible! Waste is rampant! If you support, “bid God speed” (2 John 7-11) to a false leader, false ministry, then you will perish with them!
The divine purpose for elders is not to dominate nor entertain the LORD’s sheep but rather to help their joy in Christ! Get to know this verse saints:
“Not for that we have dominion over your faith, but are helpers of your joy: for by faith ye stand.” 2 Corinthians 1:24
There is the citing of elders in the Word and their divine purpose – to humbly serve God by helping His sheep grow in the knowledge and grace of Christ (Ephesians 4:11-15; 1 Peter 5:1-6).
Christ’s apostle Paul desired the “perfection” (maturity in Christ) of the people of God (Ephesians 4:11-15).
“For we are glad, when we are weak, and ye are strong: and this also we wish, even your perfection.” 2 Corinthians 13:9
Like Apollos, Elders among God’s people must remain teachable to God’s Word and simply and only teach and preach his word (Proverbs 9:9; Acts 18:26). Elders true to the LORD act on his behalf and never out of a personal agenda for self gain (2 Corinthians 3:5; 4:5, etc.). They live the crucified life (Galatians 2:20).
We are to humble ourselves like Apollos did and learn the way of our God more perfectly from each other, via God’s Word – as Apollos learned it more fully from Aquila and Priscilla (Acts 18:24-28).
Beloved Apollos was a very effective, anointed communicator of God’s Word and yet, was in need of maturing, of being perfected. So, God sent to him an elder and his wife, Aquila and Priscilla. Apollos humbly received the LORD’s elders and His grace to grow in Christ:
“And a certain Jew named Apollos, born at Alexandria, an eloquent man, and mighty in the scriptures, came to Ephesus. 25 This man was instructed in the way of the Lord; and being fervent in the spirit, he spake and taught diligently the things of the Lord, knowing only the baptism of John. 26 And he began to speak boldly in the synagogue: whom when Aquila and Priscilla had heard, they took him unto them, and expounded unto him the way of God more perfectly.” Acts 18:24-26
The vast majority of “churches” that meet in “church buildings” are simply and merely conducting “church services” where they entertain their prey. They are not equipping the saints for the work of the ministry and therefore discerned as being counterfeit (Ephesians 4:11-13). If they were, there would be salty disciples in their midst who go forth to minister Christ’s kingdom blessings wherever they go. Not even a trace of this transpiring in the apostate modern church world. Run. Run. Run.
The Purpose of Kingdom Elders:
“And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; 12 For the perfecting (equipping, maturing) of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:” Ephesians 4:11-12
Philip Lye writes: “Paul says in Ephesians 4, that he gave some to be apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors and teachers. He expressly says these people are given to mature the saints, to equip them for their ministry and growth in Jesus Christ. Jesus tells us in Matthew 24 that many false prophets and messiahs will arise deceiving many. They are simply functions that God has given and not titles which the proud use to strut about like a peacock. Most of these people that I have met (and I have seen a lot of famous ones) are false, proud and arrogant and not servants of the the Lord Jesus Christ. I have seen humble genuine ones who move mightily in truth, calling people to repentance and right relationship with Jesus and a demonstration of genuine miracles and wonders. They are to be genuine servants to God’s people.”
VIEW this following verse from Solomon’s day in light of our calling and work till Christ returns:
“Now all the work of Solomon was prepared unto the day of the foundation of the house of the LORD, and until it was finished. So the house of the LORD was perfected.” 2 Chronicles 8:16
Let’s read a larger portion of this important passage in Ephesians 4. God fearing under-shepherds must prayerfully labor for and be intent upon seeing God’s people grow in the grace of Christ to the full stature of maturity He has ordained!
“And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; 12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: 13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ: 14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive; 15 But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:” Ephesians 4:11-15
The Error of Using Titles in the Modern Church World
God sovereignly and exclusively ordained MEN to feed, lead, and equip His saints (Ephesians 4:8-11). Women are called to and seen doing many ministry functions in the New Testament but never as a leader in a position specifically designated in Scripture for men.
Repent. The American “church” is a catastrophe of spineless moral-coward Ahabs who’ve allowed, suffered women to lead, and the fall out is incalculable (Revelation 2:20-24).
GOD’s men must never allow women to lead where they (men) are called to lead (1 Timothy 2:12; 3:2; Revelation 2:20-24).
To put yourself under the ministry of a woman who is acting as an elder among God’s people, is to defy Christ, and to agree with Christ’s arch enemy and his Jezebels and to bring severe destruction on the people of God (1 Timothy 2:12; 3:2; Revelation 2:20-24).
JUST because a woman can run her mouth and even genuinely have a gift of the Spirit DOES NOT mean she’s an elder in the body of Christ – which is divinely reserved non-negotiably for men, male elders (1 Timothy 2:11-12; 3:2). | Beware of Scripture-Twisting Jezebels
We must humbly confess before our LORD and God that we have nothing and are nothing without Him!
“I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.” John 15:5
God can use us in spite of having a seminary or Bible college background…. If we will truly denounce it, lay it all down, and truly submit to Him – just like Paul did (Philippians 3). Otherwise we will join the epidemic of false prophets who build their own kingdoms in this fleeting life and spend eternity in hell (2 Peter 2:1-3). Paul counted his “higher education” as “dung” to know and serve Christ (Philippians 3).
BIBLICALLY SPEAKING, BY DEFINITION, ELDERS ARE NOT SEMINARIANS (UNLESS THEY’VE DENOUNCED SUCH) BUT RATHER PROVEN MEN OF GOD WHO HAVE WALKED WITH CHRIST FOR SOME TIME AND ARE SEASONED IN DOCTRINE AND GODLY CHARACTER AND ABLE TO HELP ASSIST OTHER BELIEVERS GROW IN GRACE (Philippians 3).
In part, we can be transformed in our thinking/perspective of what leaders are seen to be in the apostate modern church vs the biblical definition of an elder which is a humble servant with sound doctrine and a godly life (1 Timothy 3; 2 Timothy 3:10; Titus 1-2, etc.).
Christ’s kingdom ordination is not like the ordinations of many denominations….. To ordain seems to mean to recognize the work of GOD in a man’s life and to set him forth into ministry as by the leading of the Spirit of God.
“Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.” John 15:16
ORDAIN
G5087
τίθημι
tithēmi
tith’-ay-mee
A prolonged form of a primary word θέω theō (which is used only as an alternate in certain tenses); to place (in the widest application, literally and figuratively; properly in a passive or horizontal posture, and thus different from G2476, which properly denotes an upright and active position, while G2749 is properly reflexive and utterly prostrate): – + advise, appoint, bow, commit, conceive, give, X kneel down, lay (aside, down, up), make, ordain, purpose, put, set (forth), settle, sink down.
Total KJV occurrences: 96
“Now there were in the church that was at Antioch certain prophets and teachers; as Barnabas, and Simeon that was called Niger, and Lucius of Cyrene, and Manaen, which had been brought up with Herod the tetrarch, and Saul. 2 As they ministered to the Lord, and fasted, the Holy Ghost said, Separate me Barnabas and Saul for the work whereunto I have called them. 3 And when they had fasted and prayed, and laid their hands on them, they sent them away.” Acts 13:1-3
Denominations of mere men set their elders forth to do THEIR bidding, to perpetuate their own cause and existence, to build their false church businesse$. God fearing assemblies of the saints simply recognize Christ’s work in a man and prayerfully send him forth to do GOD’s work. They worship and exalt Christ whole heartedly!
MINISTRY is about feeding sheep, not entertaining goats (John 21:15-17). So, when you see a “minister” entertaining, you know he himself is a goat (1 Corinthians 1:29-2:5).
What True Elders Teach
“For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord; and ourselves your servants for Jesus’ sake.” 2 Corinthians 4:5
THERE is nothing good in us except Christ. We are not featured but JESUS is. “We preach CHRIST crucified” (1 Cor 1:23). All our righteousnesses are as filthy rags and HE is the One and only righteous Redeemer whom we communicate to others (1 Cor 9:16; Rom 7:18 etc.).
Jesus’ true disciples are crucified vessels who preach with His authority, unlike the lame leaders we have today (Matthew 7:28-29). True Gospel preaching rocks the world of those who hear it – it never coddles people in their sin. That’s the work of wolves! Beware!
Godly Elders Teach God’s People to Discern
“And they shall teach my people the difference between the holy and profane, and cause them to discern between the unclean and the clean.” Ezekiel 44:23
Why don’t some leaders teach discernment?
“Anyone that profits off of you being blind, will never teach you or inspire you to see.” unknown
Any man in leadership who doesn’t warn you of false prophets as did Christ and His apostles, is a wolf who does not want you to see who he truly is.
God’s people are to continue to learn to discern – to test, to weigh all things against Holy Scripture. Ungodly elders have the “I said it so it’s true” notion. Or the “We’ve always taught that” or “That’s what we believe” philosophy. Not. What saith the Scriptures is what every true follower of Jesus asks, as he searches God’s Word to ascertain truth. Every student of Christ should become extremely familiar with Acts 17:10-11.
QUESTION RECEIVED:
“I am curious as to how one man is considered the other’s elder? Do they attend the same church gathering thus, he is a church elder or is it through willful submission of the younger as an understudy or simply due to the fact that one man is older?”
REPLY:
Great question brother. Elder, biblically seems to mean older and more seasoned in God’s Word, having walked with the LORD longer. Two views come to mind: 1. The organic body of Christ, the kingdom relationships we have, where there appear men in our lives who are seasoned and there’s an automatic elder/young relationship (that’s how it is here)… and 2. Where a person attends a church group and they have their elder in a more organized fashion as you mentioned…. that help?
Nothing brings definition to this like God’s Word as you know…. and notice how it begins with “The elders which are AMONG you”….
“The elders which are among you I exhort, who am also an elder, and a witness of the sufferings of Christ, and also a partaker of the glory that shall be revealed: 2 Feed the flock of God which is among you, taking the oversight thereof, not by constraint, but willingly; not for filthy lucre, but of a ready mind; 3 Neither as being lords over God’s heritage, but being ensamples to the flock. 4 And when the chief Shepherd shall appear, ye shall receive a crown of glory that fadeth not away. 5 Likewise, ye younger, submit yourselves unto the elder. Yea, all of you be subject one to another, and be clothed with humility: for God resisteth the proud, and giveth grace to the humble. 6 Humble yourselves therefore under the mighty hand of God, that he may exalt you in due time:” 1 Peter 5:1-6
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