“Once Saved Always Saved” (OSAS) is a Lie from Hell and Taught by “Ungodly Men” (Jude 3-4)
“For there are certain men crept in unawares (undetected), who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness (license to sin), and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.” Jude 4
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“I guess you need to send me packing too. I absolutely believe in the doctrine of OSAS.”
REPLY:
“With no further ado, you have openly professed to be a child of the devil by embracing HIS first and enduring lie…. “ye shall NOT surely die“ is undeniably the first mention, the first time eternal security / OSAS was taught and it was by Satan himself (Gen. 2:17; 3:4). Like Satan, you have added to God’s Word. That one 3-letter word Satan added led to the fall of mankind.
QUESTION ASKED:
REPLY:
No, not at all. It merely reveals that God has to initiate the relationship and “IF any man” enters through the door – Christ – he is saved. That is initial salvation but one must continue to the end, to endure to the end to ultimately be in glory. Yes we are saved immediately and yet the possession of eternal salvation is not unforfeitable.
Question Received:
“What is your definition of abiding in Christ?”
Reply:
Great question. The whole of Jesus’ teachings define abiding in Christ. The cross! See Lk. 9:23-24. We must lay down our lives. There are no short cuts (Jn 12:23-24).
Message Received:
“But if you believe someone can lose their salvation, isn’t that works salvation?”
Reply:
Works salvation? No the work of Christ saves us and yet HE – JESUS – says that after being saved we must ABIDE / remain in Him or we will be thrown into the fires of hell – John 15:6. Anyone who dies in sin is going to hell – God is “Holy, holy, holy” and told you to “be ye holy” and that He is only coming back for a church without spot, blemish, or any such thing but one that is holy (Revelation 4:8; 1 Peter 1:15-16; Ephesians 5:25-27). Those who are truly saved by grace, and are abiding in Christ, are overcoming sin, not making excuse for it like you are doing. You are preaching a cross-less false gospel saying that sin is greater than the LORD. You are preaching sin – that man can’t live holy. You are a child of the devil Mario, and God is calling you to repent. You speak nothing of Christ and His power but only make excuse for man’s sins. Read your own words. Your words are the words of a cross-less, Christ-denying counterfeit.
“Faith without works is dead” – it’s not saving faith (James 2). The fruit of truly knowing and abiding in Christ will always be good works (Matthew 3:7-10; Ephesians 2:8-10; Titus 2:11-14, etc.). Those who presently in Christ are keeping His works – obediently doing what He sent us to do.(Revelation 2:26).
Email Received:
“Hi Bro. Todd, Hope you’re fine and well. You may know that I used to be a calvinist. …sad, but true. I’m just curious if you’ve ever had or known (of) anyone who abandoned that ‘unconditional OSAS’ teaching…where they believe that a Christian can completely disown the Lord Jesus, depart from/abandon the faith etc., and still be/remain saved… sounds crazy, eh., but that’s what they believe (even NON-calvies). They’re sooooooo stubborn these folks…seems impossible to debate/reason with…as if unchangeable.
They’re ‘glued’ to this ‘doctrine’, which was unknown to the earliest church, right?! I even know ‘former’ Christians…but they’ll just say that they were never saved to begin with bla bla bla. It’s very aggravating…like talkin’ to a wall hahaha!
I don’t know a single person who believes as we do; who used to hold to that OSAS. Please let me know if you might. At least I’ll feel a bit better. God Bless You, Bro., thanks so much; & Maranatha! In HIM, B.”
Reply:
Brother, I know that same feeling after trying (like yourself) to reach many OSAS and Calvinists for many years. It’s clearly a heart matter… they are “enemies of the cross of Christ” (Phil. 3:18-19)…. They do not want any personal responsibility and that’s why they cling to this lie…… meditate on this as I know you may have already. Brother, I have received correspondence from several people over the years who once believed the OSAS lie and now have seen it’s a lie. Yet as you said, there aren’t many of them who will repent of this heresy. Keep preaching His Word brother, you are being a light!
Common Deception:
“But God is “sovereign” so that means He is in total control and requires nothing of me! He sovereignly saved me and there’s nothing I can do to change/alter my relationship with Him!”
Reply:
Sovereignty is a largely misused word today – misused to the advantage of sinful men who do not want personal responsibility so they have fabricated a false sovereignty to their own destruction and to excuse themselves from personal accountability to the Judge of their eternal souls. Their false “sovereignty” is a mere ploy to remove the personal responsibility the God they claim is sovereign requires of them. That’s what underlies all of this – the un-repentant desire to live life on their own terms while deceiving themselves into believing that God will not hold them accountable by excluding them from His eternal kingdom (Isaiah 30:9-10; 2 Timothy4:3-4). The words “sovereign” or “sovereignty” never appear in Scripture. Divine sovereignty can only be defined by the whole of what the LORD has revealed to us about Himself in HIS Word (2 Timothy 3:16; 2 Peter 1:20-21; Psalms 119). Those who misuse this word “sovereign” refuse to take the whole counsel of His Word into account. They want to divorce this term from the very One they are claiming is “sovereign.” Amazingly hypocritical.
Isn’t it interesting that these same people, in their self-serving fashion, constantly speak of God’s “sovereignty” (which they have conveniently redefined) and yet these same people are never heard speaking of God’s holiness which is stated throughout Scripture. In fact, it’s the only one of His divine attributes which is listed three times in succession and He did this twice – once in the New and once in the Old Testament (Isaiah 6:3; Revelation 4:8). In fact, the LORD told us to “Be ye holy” because He is holy.
“But as he which hath called you is holy, so be ye holy in all manner of conversation; 16 Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy.” 1 Peter 1:15-16
The sovereignty of God is not directly stated in His Word and yet holiness is all over the Bible, not only that God is holy but also that He requires such from any person who will spend eternity with Him (Hebrews 12:14).
Now, are you beginning to see just WHO the OSAS religion revolves around? It’s a religion with sinful man enthroned and the LORD dethroned!
Why do they adopt this OSAS (un-conditional security) theology?
“For the time will come when they will not endure (hold themselves accountable to) sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; 4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth (as God defines it in His whole Word), and shall be turned unto fables (stories, notions, false philosophies).” 2 Timothy 4:3-4
“After their own lusts” they have denied Christ by denying Him the reign of their personal lives. So, they have made up a god in their own sinful image who requires of them no personal responsibility for their thoughts and actions or accountability to be crucified with Christ in that daily cross Christ commanded to all who would truly follow Him (Luke 9:23-24). Paul calls them the very “enemies of the cross of Christ … whose god is their belly” (Philippians 3:18-19).
“(For MANY walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ: 19 Whose end is destruction (eternal damnation), whose God is their belly (carnal appetites), and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things (preserving their own lives),” Philippians 3:18-19
“For our conversation (way of life) is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ:” Philippians 3:20
Message Received:
“You are stretching the truth by trying to link the lie Satan told Eve to OSAS! OSAS didn’t exist back then!”
Response:
The doctrine of OSAS “didn’t exist”? Of course it did or it started right there. “There is NO new thing under the sun” and Satan tempts us with what is “common to man” (Eccl. 1:9; 1 Cor. 10:13). It’s “common” and began with Satan telling the man and woman that they were going to be okay if they sinned against God. Adam and Eve had to be restored and that’s why the LORD shed the blood of animals to restore them which depicted Christ’s blood (Gen. 3:21). If Satan has changed his methods then Paul the apostle of Jesus lied to us by telling us that what the devil tempts us with is not “common to man” (1 Cor. 10:13).
Also: If in fact Satan is the king of “ye shall NOT surely die,” then we know he possesses all who buy that lie (Gen. 2:17; 3:4). DID Satan say “ye shall NOT surely die”? Yes or no please! Yes! If Satan originated this lie then anyone espousing it has brought devils into their life. Paul spoke of “seducing SPIRITS (devils) and doctrines of devils.” (1 Tim. 4:1) One comes with the other. Devils attach to and control the lives of all who buy this lie of the ages – OSAS is clearly equivalent to “ye shall NOT surely die” (Gen. 2:17; 3:4).
Carol B. writes:
“What is “Relativism”?” – A philosophy or theory holding that truth or moral or aesthetic value, etc., is not universal or absolute but may differ between individuals or cultures.
What is it that makes OSAS (once saved always saved) like Relativism?
If there is truth that can be known, then any departure from the truth, for whatever reason, is nothing more than situational ethics. In other words, to deny or disregard truth because we do not agree with it, do not like it, do not believe it, or want to live our lives our own way based on what we perceive to be right or wrong, will always ultimately lead to relativism. “Do what thou wilt” is the mantra of the church of Satan and is the philosophy that the arch enemy of man wants us to believe in and practice. Choosing to live your life this way, I warn all readers, is in direct rebellion to the truth revealed in the written Word of God.
When God’s commandments and precepts can be known, and the consequences of disobedience are clearly stated in His written Word, no excuse can be made, or will be accepted for turning away from the truth. Relativism is nothing more than finding a way to sin, and believing that it is acceptable. For those who call themselves Christians, relativism manifests itself in the damnable doctrine of OSAS. This happens by disregarding the warnings clearly stated in the Holy Scriptures and denying reality itself. Adherents of OSAS willfully deny God’s warning of judgment for sin.
For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, Hebrews 10:26
Christ can only die once for your sins. If you reject, mock, or deny His free gift. He will not crawl back on the cross and do it all over again
Make no mistake about the truth that sin separates us from a holy God. I have found that most of those who complain about God being silent, are the same ones who will justify sin. Can you really believe that you can take part in sins willingly and still hear from God?
When God speaks to us, he confirms that He approves of what we are doing or trying to do.
So, to think God will speak to us when we willingly sin, is to believe that God approves of the sin you are committing. Light and dark cannot occupy the same place at the same time.” Carol B.
To a pastor who emailed me and was upset that I was teaching the biblical truth about a conditional eternal security, the following response was sent:
“Yes, we have eternal life and yet the possession of eternal life is not automatically eternal … that is, if we do not abide which means remain in Christ to the end, we shall be “cast into the fire.” (Jn. 15:1-6) This is a missing doctrine from the modern church, especially those who have pigeon holed themselves into this “once saved always saved’ mentality which is not taught in Holy Scripture.
God is calling you to repent of the antinomian (lawless) heresy of “turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness” (license for sin). Jude 3-4.
Greg, you have no Scriptural/divine authority to teach the unconditional eternal security you are teaching. Jesus and His holy apostles taught to the contrary. See Matt. 10:22; 24:13; Acts 13:43; 14:22; Heb. 3:6, 12-14; 10:26-39; Rev. 2-3, etc.).
The LORD’s first priority is not the lost but those He has saved and keeping them saved. See John 17:9; Gal. 6:10. WHERE has satan’s false prophets breathed their strange fire? (Ps 74:3-4, 7) WHAT was Paul’s concern that he cried day and night for three years about? Was it from those who would come from without or from within? Acts 20:27-32
I am attaching the book “Lie of the Ages” which has never been refuted. I encourage you to read it.
The same Greek word for “sealed” in Eph. is used for Christ’s tomb being sealed and WE KNOW that seal was broken (Matt. 27:66).
Tagging Christ’s teaching to abide to the end is not roman catholic. That’s a smokescreen. You need to repent and stop being so prideful. You have much to learn young man.
You have no Scripture to refute this truth. The Truth about Predestined and Sealed.
The Bible says you are an “ungodly man” if you teach this lascivious lie (Jude 3-4).
*Specifically concerning false teachers, the Bible instructs: “rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith;” (Titus 1:13)
When Jesus said “It is finished” He was referring to HIS perfect work of redemption and NOT your personal responsibility to die to self and follow Him! Yes “by faith” and if you have true, Heaven bound, saving faith, you will have the good fruit of good works. Why then would He have given you things to do? Why His many commands to be obeyed by those who truly love Him?
The possession of salvation is not automatically eternal. Why then would Jesus have told us – His own – that we must “endure to the end to be saved”? (Matt. 10:22; 24:13) What else could this possibly mean than if we do not continue with Him to the end of our lives on this earth, that we will not be saved?
Message Received:
“Thank you for speaking the truth on so many issues. I almost always agree with the points you prove from Scripture.
I grew up in a very non Calvinist church (Free Methodist). I’m not sure if I took their doctrine past the point where they were teaching or not, but as a child and teenager I believed that if I died and had any unconfessed sin, that I was doomed. In really looking at it now, I think that I still believe that to be the case!
When I was 19, my former husband told me the OSAS doctrine. This was the first time that I knew there was such a thing. After we married, we went to a Conservative Baptist church. Before we joined, I asked the pastor about the OSAS doctrine, and he gave me the standard answer about that if they left the faith, then they were never saved to begin with. (Interesting to note is that he grew up Free Methodist!)
Anyway, I don’t think that I’ve ever truly believed OSAS, even when a member of that church. I’ve been a member of two other churches since then, neither OSAS. At the present time, I’m not a member of any church and attend a home fellowship with like minded believers.
Knowing that some challenging times are ahead makes it hard for me to say with certainty that I could never deny Christ, even though that is the desire of my heart. Truly, I think that until I’m with Him, I’m not sure that I can be sure that I’ll be with Him for eternity.” Kathy
Reply:
Kathy, thank you for sharing your testimony. It’s refreshing to see people who were taught the truth from the beginning – that OSAS is a heresy. What you stated at the end is so very vital. Millions who were once saved (for sure) and then told they had no further personal responsibility to follow Christ in a real way, are going to deny Him openly in the end and go to hell for eternity and it will be worse for them than if they had never know the LORD (2 Pet. 2:20-21). They were betrayed for the false teachers who taught them this OSAS lie and also for their own disobedience of refusing to learn of the LORD from His written Word for themselves. Ready or not -Jesus is coming for a spotless bride (Eph. 5:25-27).
***QUESTION RECEIVED:
If I recall you pretty much said that Calvinist’s are not saved and that is just not true! Now was that a gracious thing to say??? I mean we could dialogue on this until doomsday, and I could pretty much say the same about you, but what would be the point???
REPLY:
No offense meant here but let me say it once again, standing on both feet and all boldness and no slight apology – No person who is trusting in some other system of theology other than that “doctrine of Christ” we must received AND continue in, will be saved in the end. – “WHOSOEVER (whether saved in the past or not) transgresseth (goes back), and abideth (remains) not in the doctrine of Christ, HATH NOT GOD. He that abideth (remains) in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.” (2 John 9)
I have no problem at all with you are anyone disagreeing with me. It’s all about divine truth which is available to us all in God’s written Word friend.
And YES, that is a very gracious thing to say because – “Open rebuke is better than secret love. 6 Faithful are the wounds of a friend; but the kisses of an enemy are deceitful.”(Proverbs 27:5-6) Now, let me ask you a question now: “Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?” (Galatians 4:16) …. by the way, you are welcome to say I’m not saved. There is no doubt that can tamper with the divine “great peace” of those who only get what they believe from God’s pure Word and “hate EVERY false way” such as calvinism (Psalms 119:104, 128, 165). In other words, why read it and pollute your mind if it’s not the BIBLE? No true disciple of Jesus looks ANY where except to Christ, the Word and His written Word for the truth. ALL others are deceived and will be damned (2 Thessalonians 2:9-12).
“Great peace have they which love thy law: and nothing shall offend them.” Psalms 119:165
Doctrinal Purity (audio)
Comment Received:
“Hello bother, this is Pastor Frank. I see that you are working hard for the Lord and contending with many deceived souls regarding that wicked false teacher, John Calvin and his demonic belief system. You are doing a great job! My words seem to fall on deaf ears. In the ministry that I am involved with, we minister mostly to people who are in the occult/cult systems. We have helped many, thanks be to our God! I really did not know a whole lot about this wicked man until I ran into a Calvinist preacher. After hearing him and disagreeing with the lies he was teaching, he got crazy and it could have turned violent. It made me really dig into why this lying preacher was so crazy. When I studied hard I found out the real truth of John Calvin, the person, and his demonic system. I could see that these people have the same spirit as there god Calvin, the monster. Even when I point out the fact that he was a mass murder, it does not seem to bother them at all! That in itself is amazing to me and is evil, to say the least. I think that if they could, they would burn us at the stake in the name of Calvin. Hang in there! You are doing a great job exposing this devil. God bless.” Frank S.
Comment Received:
“Calvinism is so far removed from scripture and the heart of God. It is an absolute assault on God’s own character. However it will fulfill scripture. Unfortunately many will be losing their soul because of this. Matthew 7:21-23 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.” Steve Anderson
Message Received:
Didn’t James say, we are tempted by our own lusts? James 1:14
So yes, God is not enticing us to sin. We are drawn away by our own lusts. Again, we are under the law. How can he be transgressing the law, when he wrote it?
To put all the Scriptures in focus, God did harden Pharaohs heart.
An evil spirit did come from the Lord to Saul.
God did create the devil.
God is working, manipulating, arranging everything. If He’s not, he’s not God.
Now, to blame God for your sin is unlawful. I repeat, we are under the law not Him.
Reply:
God only hardened Pharoah’s heart in the sense of allowing him to choose and then responding just like we see He does now in 2 Thessalonians 2:9-12. No, God did not create the devil, He created Lucifer who then rebelled (Isaiah 14:12-15; Ezek. 28:13-15). You are on dangerous ground attributing sin and evil to the Almighty who said He is “Holy, holy, holy” and that He “cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he ANY man.” (Isaiah 6:3; Rev. 4:8; James 1:13-15).
“Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:
14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.
15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.” James 1:13-15
Message Received:
“I believe in ‘once saved, always saved’. I have read the KJV Bible through several times and have listened to arguments against OSAS. To believe otherwise is to dilute the power of Jesus’ blood to save to the uttermost and that is blasphemy. Love in Christ! I’ve walked with the Lord faithfully for 50 years out of 61. When I went ‘worldly’ God didn’t dis own me, but gently called me to Himself and I repented of what I had done. If you are truly saved,’no man shall be able to pluck you out of His hand.’”
Reply:
Hi. The blood of Jesus is perfect. However, its’ application to the individual is yet another thing. Perfect righteousness is only arrived at/received and kept through the initial, continual, and presence of the perfect blood of Jesus Christ. This is accomplished as we choose to “walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.” (1 Jn. 1:7) Note the ongoing nature of the verse you just read as you re-read it slowly and prayerfully. Contrary to what Holy Writ plainly reveals, the eternal securest wants the convenience of a one-time “Profession of faith” or “Decision to accept Christ” as the way to be saved. This type of professing believer does not want to pick up the daily cross. He wants to believe he is secure in his daily life, while forsaking the Savior he claims to be saved by (Matt. 7:21; Lk. 6:46). In his mythical, fairy tale- like self-deception, he wants the heavenly crown, yet denies the daily cross (Matt. 16:24-25). He refuses to lose his own life for the life of the Savior and LORD because he is not truly trusting God. He wants his sin instead of the Savior. He makes excuse for living in sin and hides behind the thin veneer of his doctrines of false security. He is a hypocrite and a moral coward who refuses to literally obey the God He claims to be saved by (Tit. 1:16; Rev. 21:8). The LORD promised that our sin – if retained – WILL find us out in the end if we do not confess and forsake them (Num. 32:23; Prov. 28:13; Gal. 5:19-21; Eph. 5:5-7; Heb. 12:14; Rev. 21:8, 27). God did not cease to have His immutable eternal divine nature – “holy, holy, holy” just because He saved us! Think about how sinfully presumptuous, self-serving, and pride-filled this assumption is! This heresy underlies all of reformed/Calvinistic theology and thinking. The teachings of “Once Saved Always Saved” false doctrine, as well as reformed theology, are simply the insidious workings of Satan to attack Christ and subvert His holy truth.
According to 1 John 1:7, only those who get saved and then continue to “walk in the light” with Christ will continue to be washed from their sins. Sin MUST be confessed (1 John 1:9).
The wages of sin is still death and God is “Holy, holy, holy.” Nothing could be more clear in His Word than the fact that any person who dies in sin will be in the lake of fire eternally (Rev. 21:8, 27; 22:14-15; Gal. 5:19-21; Eph. 5:5-9).
Information on “plucked” below … keep reading ….
In the divine economy, as is expressed throughout the Holy Scriptures, salvation is not a one-time event, but the ongoing experience of knowing Him in an intimate, willing, obedient relationship (Exod. 25:8; 2 Chron. 15:2; Isa. 1:19-20; Jn. 17:3; Phil. 3:10; 2 Tim. 2:12, etc.). The fact that we all have stumbled and sinned after being saved does not justify that sin. God is still “holy, holy, holy” (Isa. 6:3; Rev. 4:8) His divine nature does not change just because He by His sheer mercy saved us (Tit. 3:5-7). This is where the Calvinist utterly and foolishly errs (Jonah 2:8). In fact, God told us that those who COVER (instead of CONFESS and FORSAKE sin) are not right with Him. Proverbs 28:13 and 1 John 1:6-2:2 are essential Scriptures which should be read in order to better understand this most critical doctrine.
In fact, He told us that those who COVER instead of CONFESS and FORSAKE their sin are not right with Him and will be found having their own righteousness instead of Christ’s perfect righteousness (Prov. 28:13; Phil. 3:9). 1 John 1:6-2:2 are essential in understanding a fuller scope of this whole topic. We must not err in the other direction from lasciviousness to legalism, thinking we can be made perfect in the flesh lest we fall from grace like the Galatians (Gal. 3:3; 5:4). Trusting in self instead of the one Savior will result in a fall from grace which is only accessed and abode/continued in “by FAITH.” (Rom. 5:1-2)
Righteousness can only come from Jesus Christ…imputed as we repent and place our full faith in Him alone for salvation that He alone earned for us (Rom. 3:21-4:5). God requires faith, not only to initially receive His imputed righteousness, but also ongoing to the end of one’s life or all is lost. This is a doctrine the reformist OSAS adherent completely denies and yet it is all over Scripture (Matt. 10:22; 24:13; Col. 1:23; Heb. 3:6, 12-14; 10:26-39; 2 Pet. 2:20-22; Rev. 2-3, etc.). The appropriation of His saving righteousness is only to those who truly believe on Jesus Christ and continue in that faith to the end. Many “fall away” (Lk. 8:13) or fail to realize that their “faith” is not authentic. Real, saving faith will always produce a life of good fruit, denying ungodliness and worldly lust and looking daily for the soon return of Jesus. Our Lord will be looking for those who are daily being washed by His Word, without spot and blemish (Titus 2:11-12; Eph. 5:25-27; 1 John 3:3).
We still have our sin nature. Paul says it is still a part of us and even he laments that he struggles with it. Paul also said that “if ye live after the flesh ye (believer) SHALL die” and of himself Paul the apostle said that he was personally responsible to “keep under” his body of sin – keep it crucified – or he also would be a “castaway” which simply means that he would ultimately be cast away from God into hell. Paul was not an eternal securest as the tradition of Calvinism and reformed theology erroneously teaches today. The real grace teacher, Paul, said this of divine grace, a passage purposely and completely dodged, avoided, shunned, and refused by the modern Calvinist…
Titus 2:11-14 brings in many rejected truths, including 1. What divine grace teaches when it is truly in a person’s life, 2. That Christ died to free us from ALL unrighteousness, and if we are not walking in this sin-killing grace, we will not be ready at His soon return, and 3. That when God’s grace is truly in us, we are “zealous of good works”:
“For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to ALL MEN, Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world; Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ; Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.” Titus 2:11-14
Titus 2:11-14 brings in many rejected truths, including:
1. What divine grace teaches when it is truly in a person’s life
2. That Christ died to free us from ALL unrighteousness, and if we are not walking in this sin-killing grace, we will not be ready at His soon return and
3. That when God’s grace is truly in us, we are “zealous of good works”.
The phony grace message of the evangelicals who follow Calvin instead of Christ, robs the fear of the LORD from the hearts of their gullible audience and leads them into a life of sin. The catastrophic result is that they are not ready for the return of Jesus and will be rejected as lukewarm …. Check what Jesus said out here in Luke 21:33-36….
“Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away. And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares. For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth. Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.” Luke 21:33-36
Calvinists also call sin “doing wrong” or “having faults” and that these things will not be imputed to Christians, but will all burn at the judgment seat of Christ. Where does Holy Scripture say this? No where, especially when biblical passages are read in their own context and in context with the whole of Scripture. Paul warns CHRISTIANS of the 5 sins that kept God’s people out of their promised land (Heaven) ….. L.I.F.T.M. = lust, idolatry, fornication, tempting Christ, murmuring …. See 1 Cor. 9:27-10:12. Paul cited 17 specific sins that will keep a former believer out of the kingdom of God (Gal. 5:19-21). There’s much more on this in the NT Scriptures (Eph. 5:5-7; Rev. 21:8, 27; 1 Cor. 6:9-10, etc.
Only our works will be judged there. Yes, we are known and will be judged by our works due to the fact that our works clearly reveal what is truly in our heart.
“But that which ye have already hold fast till I come. (why such a warning if there were no possibility of losing it?) And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:” Revelation 2:25-26
Enduring to the end is a requirement. Irrevocable eternal damnation awaits all who after being saved fall away, do not continue to walk with Christ on His stated biblically recorded terms. Abide or perish (John 15:6).
When speaking to His very own people, Jesus promised that only those among them that “overcome” would be with Him eternally (Rev. 2-3). The Holy Spirit told us through Peter that in the end “the righteous” would “scarcely be saved.” Many have fallen away or not endured to the end which is a requirement imposed upon us by the LORD. “And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?” (1 Pet. 4:18)
Whether previously saved or not, all those who die in sin are going to the lake of fire. The whole of God’s Word testifies to this fact. Jesus said to cut off the hand and pluck out the eye that causes us to offend the one true God who said He is “holy, holy, holy.” (Isa. 6:3; Rev. 4:8) Read Mark 9:42-49, a passage purposely dodged by the spineless, self-serving coward behind today’s pulpits who claim to be representing Christ while refusing to declare the full counsel of His Word. He promised us that He will be ashamed of them in the Judgment, which means they will be vanquished into the bowels of eternal damnation (Mk. 8:38; Jn. 8:47). There is no doubt that after we have been saved, we have all sinned against God and yet there are those who openly and honestly admit they have sinned and repent, turning back to the LORD (Lk. 8:15; 1 Jn. 1:7-10; Rev. 3:17-19). Tragically, there are many who use false doctrine like OSAS (once saved always saved) to cloak themselves in that sin, falsely claiming they are still secure. Nothing could be further from the truth.
Proverbs 28:13 says “He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall have mercy.”
Speaking to Christians, Rom. 8:13 says “For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.”
If we are to have the Peace of God, how can we have that peace if we are always fearful of losing our salvation when we do wrong? God has not given us the spirit of fear. Brother, this is mere reasoning, with self at heart instead of the Savior. We must die to self and self’s desires, “needs”, and wants. “Ye are dead and your life is hid with Christ in God.” (Col. 3:3) You are approaching this in the flesh instead of by the pure counsel of His Word in the holy fear of God. Reread your statement above and perhaps you will see that self is first – the preservation and pampering of self. Peace is a by product or fruit of abiding in Christ which means abiding in/obeying His teachings to deny self, take up the cross to mortify self, and follow Him (Lk. 9:23-24). The false teachers will never teach this but rather a diabolical and utterly false security. They sell this as a ware, to tickle ears, entertain, and grow their nickels, noses, and numbers. These guys have their own bellies or carnal appetites at heart and “mind earthly things.” (Phil. 3:17-21). These are the ravenous wolves we are so often warned about in God’s Word (Matt. 7:15; Acts 20:20-32), etc.). Having peace is not the goal, but rather the goal is to “know him” and “the power of his resurrection, being made conformable to his DEATH.” (Phil. 3:10). He has called us to be conformed to the image of His Son – His Son came to die – and to be rightly serving the very “Prince of peace” we claim to know (Isa. 9:6-7; Rom. 8:29). When knowing Him is truly our goal (as was Paul’s and not some selfish end) we will refuse error and man’s tradition and search out and obey His holy Precepts and will be granted by Him “GREAT peace” – “GREAT PEACE have they that LOVE thy law (Word) and nothing shall offend them.” (Ps. 119:165) False teaching produces a pseudo peace that is a cheap counterfeit for the deep, clean, sound, peace of God that passes all understanding and keeps our hearts and minds through Jesus Christ our LORD (Phil. 4:4-8, etc.). Only those who love and therefore obey His pure, clean, and clear counsel will be granted His “great peace.” (Ps 119:165) All others claiming to have peace are deceived.
My prayer today is that both of us will be blessed to completely change any single thing we have espoused and that is not aligned with the clear message of the full-counsel of Holy Writ.
At least think on these things. If we are a part of the Body of Christ, He cannot cut off a part of Himself if we do wrong. See also John 17. “Cut off” is a term used by the LORD as a serious warning. It is an ultimatum for those of His who do not “continue in his goodness” (Rom. 11:22). Jesus said that those who do not remain/abide in Him after being in Him (saved) will be cut off and thrown into the fires of eternal damnation (Jn. 15:5).
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Jesus Answered Questions with Questions [podcast]
“AVOID FOOLISH QUESTIONS”
Could it be that one way to “avoid foolish questions” is to ask questions when questioned?
“But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain. 10 A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition REJECT; 11 Knowing that he that is such is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned of himself.” Titus 3:9-11
One of the best ways to “avoid foolish questions” is to answer them with questions. Read that again.
All questions that come to us are not evil and yet, as we see with Jesus’ religious enemies, some questions do come from evil hearts with ungodly motives.
“For we are not as many, which corrupt (twist, adulterate) the word of God: but as of sincerity, but as of God, in the sight of God speak we in Christ.” 2 Corinthians 2:17
Jesus used the art of asking questions and so should you. This will revolutionize the way you interact with others, if done correctly. And, this should never be used from a heart that is not pure in the eyes of God. The disciple must beware of the evil that lurks within his own heart (Jeremiah 17:9; Romans 7:18, 24, etc.).
“Asking questions was central to Jesus’ life and teachings.”
Jesus used this method of answering questions with questions in order to shift the burden of proof, expose the motives of his critics, and force his listeners to think deeply.
One commentator notes:
“How many times did Jesus ask questions?
In the Gospels Jesus asks many more questions than he answers. To be precise, Jesus asks 307 questions. He is asked 183 of which he only answers three. Asking questions was central to Jesus‘ life and teachings.”
The Big Question is … What’s behind the question?
WHERE is the questioner seeking to lead this conversation?
We should pray for discernment to know whether there is evil intent or the noble desire for answers behind the questions asked of us.
Questioners with evil hearts ask questions in order to get themselves off the hook or deny what the Bible plainly states. This some do to distance themselves from the conviction of conscience the truth is causing them. And if you buy the package, if you take the bait, they will suck you in and devour you.
Beware of the enemy’s tactics.
“Lest Satan should get an advantage of us: for we are not ignorant of his devices (schemes, tactics).” 2 Corinthians 2:11
“Jesus frequently asked the Pharisees questions. He challenged them. Most of the time He answered questions with questions! He called them out! Which angered them greatly. Jesus was skilled in the art of asking questions! I could learn much from a study of questions Jesus asked.” Karen Cochran
ALWAYS GIVE GOD’S ANSWER AND NO OTHER (1 Peter 3:15): Beware that when God’s Word is spoken, those who love darkness rather than light, those who are unrepentant will divert from the Word by asking you questions off of the WORD itself in order to divert the conviction from their unrepentant hearts (John 3:19-21). STAY with the Word – whether they like it or not (Isaiah 55:11). You owe no man an answer other than to give them what God says – what the LORD stated in His unchanging Word (Mark 13:31). Jesus tells us that such men as will not hear His Word, are “NOT of God.” And, that if they were “OF GOD” they’d be humbly, astutely looking for and hearing HIS Word (John 8:47). Memorizing the words of Jesus recorded in John 8:47 will put your discernment miles ahead. I underlined the key words:
“He that is OF GOD heareth God’s words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are NOT OF GOD.” John 8:47
When you give rebels the answer of GOD from HIS WORD, they will attack you – the mere messenger. They are not there to learn. They’ve made up their minds and are sticking with their rebellion. Always remember, their issue is with the LORD and not with you.
You see, unrepentant men do not like the answer God gives to their questions. They are looking only to justify sin, not repent and confess it as the LORD requires. So their questions are aimed at finding a way to justify their sin – to justify their refusal to truly repent, lay down their lives in this fleeting world, and follow Jesus for real. That’s the crux of the matter.
Isn’t that exactly what the pharisees (false teachers/religionists) did to Jesus?
“Let GOD be true and EVERY man a liar.” Romans 3:4
“Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path.” Psalms 119:105
Give God’s answer and no other. You owe no one an answer to anything else, except what God says about it. Refuse to allow rebels to lead you around by the nose with their deflections and questions.
“But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:” 1 Peter 3:15
JESUS ANSWERS QUESTIONS WITH QUESTIONS
Getting a taste of how Jesus dealt with evil hearted religious folks is going to greatly develop your ability to navigate the hate-filled attacks against Christ and you by truth-haters. This will help you as you earnestly contend for the faith once delivered to the saints in the original Gospel recorded on the pages of Holy Scripture (Jude 3-4).
Jesus questioned His questioners and so should you! You serve the LORD Jesus and are not obligated to answer every question that comes your way. Sometimes, you have to stay in control in these situations. I say this specifically referring to conversations you will have with rebels. They have nothing good in their hearts and in many cases, have no heart for the truth, just like the religious frauds of Christ’s day.
Personally, I’ve seldom seen so much evil as when I refuse to answer questions from those who seek to misdirect the conversation away from the Word of God. Often detractors use mere human reasoning, or anything to manipulate and twist and get the emphasis off of what the Word itself clearly states (Mark 7:6-9). This is a tactic they use in order to promulgate their false belief, justifies their sin, and that contradicts Holy Scripture. Such was the case in this recent attack and conversation – Preacher Viciously Attacked for Speaking the Truth! [podcast]
Jesus is THE BOSS and He’s Your Boss! Follow Your Boss. Follow the Example of Your Boss! We learn from our Boss by beholding what He did. And, our Boss, the KING of all kings, asked questions to questioners.
Our Lord was skilled at asking precise questions that drove to the heart of a situation, centering everything on HIS kingdom and never acquiescing to the sinful whims and manipulations of unrepentant men.
Some of Christ’s most profound questions came as a response to those who were questioning Jesus. The following is a list of some of the questions Jesus used in questioning His questioners. This is not an exhaustive list of every question Jesus ever asked and is on record in the Bible. In order to help the reader, I’ve underlined and hi-lighted the words which indicate questions for the reader to capture the essence of how our LORD answered questions with questions. I’ve included also the questions Jesus asked His own disciples. Some of these questions are noble and most (from His enemies) are hostile. As you will see, those questions from Christ’s enemies are obviously inherently evil. I’ve highlighted with yellow where the LORD specifically cites them for such, calling to the reader’s attention the heart motives of those asking the questions. Jesus interrupted their attempted deflections, cover-ups. He called them out on it. Here’s the interaction:
- Matthew 9:14-15 – 14 Then came to him the disciples of John, saying, Why do we and the Pharisees fast oft, but thy disciples fast not? 15 And Jesus said unto them (a question), Can the children of the bridechamber mourn, as long as the bridegroom is with them? but the days will come, when the bridegroom shall be taken from them, and then shall they fast.
- Matthew 15:1-3 – 1 Then came to Jesus scribes and Pharisees, which were of Jerusalem, saying, 2 Why do thy disciples transgress the tradition of the elders? for they wash not their hands when they eat bread. 3 But he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition?
- Matthew 15:33-34 33 – 33 And his disciples say unto him, Whence should we have so much bread in the wilderness, as to fill so great a multitude? 34 And Jesus saith unto them, How many loaves have ye? And they said, Seven, and a few little fishes.
- Matthew 17:24-26 – 24 And when they were come to Capernaum, they that received tribute money came to Peter, and said, Doth not your master pay tribute? 25 He saith, Yes. And when he was come into the house, Jesus prevented him, saying, What thinkest thou, Simon? of whom do the kings of the earth take custom or tribute? of their own children, or of strangers? 26 Peter saith unto him, Of strangers. Jesus saith unto him, Then are the children free.
- Matthew 21:16 – And said unto him, Hearest thou what these say? And Jesus saith unto them, Yea; have ye never read, Out of the mouth of babes and sucklings thou hast perfected praise?
- Matthew 26:6-10 – 6 Now when Jesus was in Bethany, in the house of Simon the leper, 7 There came unto him a woman having an alabaster box of very precious ointment, and poured it on his head, as he sat at meat. 8 But when his disciples saw it, they had indignation, saying, To what purpose is this waste? 9 For this ointment might have been sold for much, and given to the poor. 10 When Jesus understood it, he said unto them, Why trouble ye the woman? for she hath wrought a good work upon me.
- Mark 2:5-11 – 5 When Jesus saw their faith, he said unto the sick of the palsy, Son, thy sins be forgiven thee. 6 But there were certain of the scribes sitting there, and reasoning in their hearts, 7 Why doth this man thus speak blasphemies? who can forgive sins but God only? 8 And immediately when Jesus perceived in his spirit that they so reasoned within themselves, he said unto them, Why reason ye these things in your hearts? 9 Whether is it easier to say to the sick of the palsy, Thy sins be forgiven thee; or to say, Arise, and take up thy bed, and walk? 10 But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power on earth to forgive sins, (he saith to the sick of the palsy,) 11 I say unto thee, Arise, and take up thy bed, and go thy way into thine house.
- Mark 4:10,13 – 10 And when he was alone, they that were about him with the twelve asked of him the parable. .. 13 And he said unto them, Know ye not this parable? and how then will ye know all parables?
- Mark 4:38,40 – And he was in the hinder part of the ship, asleep on a pillow: and they awake him, and say unto him, Master, carest thou not that we perish? … 40 And he said unto them, Why are ye so fearful? how is it that ye have no faith?
- Mark 7:17-18 – 17 And when he was entered into the house from the people, his disciples asked him concerning the parable. 18 And he saith unto them, Are ye so without understanding also?Do ye not perceive, that whatsoever thing from without entereth into the man, it cannot defile him;
- Mark 10:2-3 – And the Pharisees came to him, and asked him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife? tempting him. 3 And he answered and said unto them, What did Moses command you?
- Notice in this exchange below how Jesus is, as always, in charge, in control and therefore answers the questions of these hypocrites with questions and puts them to work – because He knew the hypocrisy of their hearts and what was behind their foolish questions.
Mark 12:14-17 – And when they were come, they say unto him, Master, we know that thou art true, and carest for no man: for thou regardest not the person of men, but teachest the way of God in truth: Is it lawful to give tribute to Caesar, or not? 15 Shall we give, or shall we not give? But he, knowing their hypocrisy, said unto them, Why tempt ye me? bring me a penny (Jesus puts them to work), that I may see it. 16 And they brought it. And he saith unto them, Whose is this image and superscription? And they said unto him, Caesar’s. 17 And Jesus answering said unto them, Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s. And they marvelled at him.
- By Jesus telling these men that they did err, were in error, because they didn’t know the “scriptures, neither the power of God” which comes from proper relationship with Him, He was in part directing them to get into the Word where the answers are found. Mark 12:18, 20-24 – Then come unto him the Sadducees, which say there is no resurrection; and they asked him, saying, … 20 Now there were seven brethren: and the first took a wife, and dying left no seed. 21 And the second took her, and died, neither left he any seed: and the third likewise. 22 And the seven had her, and left no seed: last of all the woman died also. 23 In the resurrection therefore, when they shall rise, whose wife shall she be of them? for the seven had her to wife. 24 And Jesus answering said unto them, Do ye not therefore err, because ye know not the scriptures, neither the power of God?
- Luke 2:48-49 – And when they saw him, they were amazed: and his mother said unto him, Son, why hast thou thus dealt with us? behold, thy father and I have sought thee sorrowing. 49 And he said unto them, How is it that ye sought me? wist (knew) ye not that I must be about my Father’s business?
- Luke 6:1-3 – And it came to pass on the second sabbath after the first, that he went through the corn fields; and his disciples plucked the ears of corn, and did eat, rubbing them in their hands. 2 And certain of the Pharisees said unto them, Why do ye that which is not lawful to do on the sabbath days? 3 And Jesus answering them said, Have ye not read so much as this, what David did, when himself was an hungred, and they which were with him; 4 How he went into the house of God, and did take and eat the shewbread, and gave also to them that were with him; which it is not lawful to eat but for the priests alone?
- Luke 10:25-26 – And, behold, a certain lawyer stood up, and tempted him, saying, Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life? 26 He said unto him, What is written in the law? how readest thou?
- Luke 10:29,36 – But he, willing to justify himself, said unto Jesus, And who is my neighbour? … 36 Which now of these three, thinkest thou, was neighbour unto him that fell among the thieves?
- Luke 12:41-43 – Then Peter said unto him, Lord, speakest thou this parable unto us, or even to all? 42 And the Lord said, Who then is that faithful and wise steward, whom his lord shall make ruler over his household, to give them their portion of meat in due season? 43 Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing.
- Luke 18:18-19 – And a certain ruler asked him, saying, Good Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life? 19 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God.
- As Jesus “taught the people … and preached the gospel”…. wicked religionists hurled questions with evil intent, questioning Christ’s authority. As His custom was, Jesus answered them with a question.
Luke 20:1-4 – And it came to pass, that on one of those days, as he taught the people in the temple, and preached the gospel, the chief priests and the scribes came upon him with the elders, 2 And spake unto him, saying, Tell us, by what authority doest thou these things? or who is he that gave thee this authority? 3 And he answered and said unto them, I will also ask you one thing; and answer me: 4 The baptism of John, was it from heaven, or of men?
- John 8:3-10 – And the scribes and Pharisees brought unto him a woman taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the midst, 4 They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act. 5 Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou? 6 This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. (notice Jesus’ response to their question here – He didn’t answer it verbally but with this action) But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not. 7 So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her. 8 And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground. 9 And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst. 10 When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee?“
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Angry Street Preacher Warning
Should we Preach “Stop Sinning” or “Repent”?
The Question of Stopping Sin
- WHAT COMES FIRST: A) Stopping all sinning, OR B.) Being regenerated (born again) by coming to Jesus in true repentance (laying down your life-the cross)?
- What is the Bible’s Prescription for total victory over all sin?
- What is the biblical approach to lost sinners?
There is a whole generation of street preachers who are going to the streets to tell lost sinners to “stop sinning”! Is this the biblical approach? While it is a blessing that men go to the streets to reach the lost, it’s also of the utmost importance that we are walking in divine truth in our approach and in our disposition. Approaching Sinners with Compassion
——-HOW COULD A LOST SINNER POSSIBLY “STOP SINNING” before being born again? He simply can’t. Was “stop sinning” the message of Christ and His apostles? Was that the totality of why God sent His only begotten Son to die for us?
Biblical truth tells us that we are born in sin, we have a fallen nature and it’s only the cross that causes overcoming – not denying we have a fallen nature or telling ourselves or others to stop sinning. First and foremost, a human being “must be born again” and then and only then would the topic of overcoming sin even matter. Paul speaks of the fallen nature in Romans 7 and then tells us how we overcome and dominate that old nature in Galatians 2:20 and 2 Corinthians 4:10-12 and 1 Corinthians 9:27, etc. The Holy Spirit tells us how to overcome and grants that victory through the daily cross Jesus told us to take up to follow Him (Luke 9:23-24). Denial is a smokescreen – the cross is the divine truth and solution to total victory.
EVEN the saved saints of Christ can’t overcome sin without coming to the cross afresh “daily,” as Jesus taught. So where does that leave the lost?
The LORD’s stated priority for His people is that they “abide” in Christ and when they do, all sin will be put away from their lives. As is obvious from the lack of biblical references, His foremost will is not that we stop sinning, which is impossible outside of a true, repentant abiding fellowship and daily communion with Him in His cross. See John 15:1-16. Listen closely to this:
“And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin. 6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.” 1 John 3:5-6
Please pour prayerfully over this above passage beloved saint. Jesus came to put away sin and He does this exclusively through the abiding relationship He ordained us to live with Him. “Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not.”
So, don’t seek to wrestle with your temptation and sins, just repent and seek the face of the LORD – this is the biblical prescription. The only reason a child of God sins in the first place is that he has distanced himself from the LORD – his fellowship with Christ is not as it should be and he is in need of repentance and to have Jesus back as his “first love” (Revelation 2:4-5). Memorize Psalms 27:4, 8; 63:8; 1 Chronicles 16:11b.
God gave His Son in order to give us a relationship with Him first and foremost (John 17:3). Only AFTER He finds and saves us, He grants us the blessed privilege of an abiding relationship with Him through which the fruit of holiness and much more is born (John 15:1-16).
Jesus forgave the woman caught in adultery (salvation) THEN He told her to “go and sin no more.” In 2 Corinthians 5:11 Paul said he persuaded men but not by telling them to stop sinning. He never used those words, nor did the other apostles, especially not when addressing lost souls. Jesus told the woman He FIRST forgave to “go, and sin no more” (John 8:10-11). That’s as close as it gets to the message of “stop sinning” and notice what came first and foremost – forgiveness which represents redemption, regeneration, being born again. When Jesus said (commanded) “go, and sin no more,” inherent in that command existed the power to do as He said. “But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name” (John 1:12).
Go read John 8 and notice how Jesus does and does not treat this sinning woman. He never condemns her which is unlike the self-righteous street preachers today who yell at lost souls and tell them to stop doing something they can’t possibly stop doing until after Christ saves them which comes with a changed nature whereby we “might be partakers of the divine nature” (2 Peter 1:4). It was never the LORD’s design for His people to tell unregenerate lost sinners to stop sinning. Such a privilege which includes living out of a clear, blood-washed conscience is exclusively the gift of God to His own children (Hebrews 9:14; 1 John 1:9). Anyone who has a basic knowledge of the fallen nature of sinful mankind, and has truly experienced regeneration themselves, should understand this. 2 Corinthians 5:17-21 comes to mind as being central in this discussion.
“When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee? 11 She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, NEITHER DO I CONDEMN THEE: go, and sin no more.” John 8:10-11
For you and I, unworthy to be redeemed and forgiven ourselves, should never take up the self-righteous standpoint of condemning sinners – in attitude or in action. See Titus 3:5-7.
We should ask: What is the underlying motive of going to the streets and telling other men to stop sinning? Is there self-righteousness and pride under-girding this? Is self-righteousness and pride being fostered due to this activity?
The only begotten and sinless Savior, the only man to ever walk the earth sinless, was “moved with compassion”, not hatred, when He beheld lost souls (Matthew 9:35-38).
Also, are we placing a stumbling block in the way of sinners when we bring our own mean-spirited disposition of condemnation to them? What does James 1:20 tell us?
It was only AFTER He forgave this woman caught in adultery that He instructed her to “go, and sin no more” which is a picture of our need to be born again, forgiven, first and foremost. Then the divine ability is present in us by the Holy Spirit to overcome sin. Never before. 1 John 3:6 says: “Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.” Only those who know and are able to abide in Him are blessed to please God and overcome. Those who live in sin “hath not seen him, neither known him.”
If it were even possible, God could care less if lost souls in futility attempted to stop sinning (an impossibility) when they don’t even know Him. Jesus came that men could repent and know Him and then and only after that fact will He give them His grace to overcome sin. Note whom our LORD tells us are those whom He blessed to overcome the flesh, the world, and the devil:
“For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith. 5 Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?” 1 John 5:4-5
Never lose site of the fact that it’s only “whatsoever is born of God” that “overcometh the world.”
It would be wise to cease the ridiculous “stop sinning” protest and just preach from a heart of true concern, letting God’s holy Law convict the sinner and bring them to Christ (Galatians 3:24). Win them (Proverbs 11:30). Why don’t we get them saved the Bible way – by Christ alone – and HE (not you!) will give them the divine grace and power to overcome sin! I mean WHY did Jesus even come to die if sinners could stop sinning BEFORE He saved them? Isn’t it time for us to learn the true Gospel? It is unwise to think that Jesus yelled at and condemned the rank sinners. No, He didn’t condemn them but rather was “moved with COMPASSION upon them” (Matthew 9:35-38). God will scale the fish (get them to stop sinning) once you and I allow Him to bring them in the boat! In Matthew 4:19 Jesus says to His own disciples: “Follow me, and I will make you fishers of men.”
“From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand. 18 And Jesus, walking by the sea of Galilee, saw two brethren, Simon called Peter, and Andrew his brother, casting a net into the sea: for they were fishers. 19 And he saith unto them, Follow me, and I will make you fishers of men. 20 And they straightway left their nets, and followed him.” Matthew 4:17-20
When men repent, they are born again and become Christ’s fishermen for souls. They follow Him and He teaches them to win souls. Listen to this:
“And so was also James, and John, the sons of Zebedee, which were partners with Simon. And Jesus said unto Simon, Fear not; from henceforth thou shalt catch men.” Luke 5:10
Notice “thou shalt catch men” – that is, get them in the boat. Yet not only is the LORD Jesus the sole Savior (the One who saves) but also the One who sanctifies or scales the fish after He catches (saves) them into His kingdom.
Read the Gospels and please tell me where Jesus ever blasted a regular sinner? Was He not “moved with COMPASSION upon them”? Read Matthew 9:35-38. Was our sinless LORD and Savior not the only One who had the right to condemn sinners and yet He didn’t? Jesus DID condemn the rich and the religious, but never the rank, everyday unsaved heathen. We need a fresh, thorough reading of Scripture. One of the many benefits will be that we see more clearly and cease following the grudge-filled dispositions of other mere men who are possessed by an unwarranted anger at sinners. Memorize James 1:20. Do we not have the need to come away with Christ and to be settled at His feet, listening, following His example? Do we need to reconsider ceasing to follow the willingly misled street preacher posse who are following the evil ways of false teacher Charles Finney?
God bless us to live out of the same unmerited mercy and compassion He showed by coming to die for us “while WE were yet sinners” (Romans 5:8).
—– IT’S a blessing to preach the Word of God on the streets or anywhere people are for that matter …. yet it’s not a blessing to have hatred in our hearts toward those for whom Jesus died and was raised again. Is that what won you to Jesus? Is hatred from condemning “Christians” what wins lost sinners into Christ’s kingdom? Never. Yes, preach the Word and only the Word and yet God is the Judge, not me or you! See 2 Timothy 4:1-4. We must never confuse our place in the LORD’s kingdom economy and realize that we are but servants and are called by Him to be humble in disposition (Colossians 3:12-14, etc.). We have NO righteousness of our own (Romans 7:12). Christ is our ONLY righteousness, period and end of story (2 Corinthians 5:21). He has and still today shows His “great mercy” upon us, unmerited by anything of our own. Check this out: “Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others. 4 But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us, 5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved)” (Ephesians 2:3-5).
PREACHING DIVINE JUDGMENT, HELL, AND THE LAKE OF FIRE ARE BIBLICAL AND YET DOING IT WITH HATE IN OUR HEARTS FOR THOSE SINNERS WE ARE HARSHLY CONDEMNING, IS SIN (JAMES 1:20; 4:8-9, ETC.).
WHY WOULD WE VIEW AND TREAT LOST SINNERS JESUS WANTS TO SAVE AS OUR ENEMIES? DID THEY SIN AGAINST US?!??!??!!! ARE WE “HOLY, HOLY, HOLY,” OR IS THE LORD ALONE “HOLY, HOLY, HOLY”? see ISAIAH 6:3; REVELATION 4:8. ARROGANCE. SOUL DAMNING SELF-RIGHTEOUSNESS.
The fact that the LORD is “angry with the wicked” does not mean that He gave mere sinful men (us) the permission or instruction to go angrily yell at and possess hatred toward the lost. Beware of those who run around with hatred in their hearts toward the lost and misuse Psalms 7:11 as a license to do so.
There are those who misuse Psalms 7:11 to justify their own self-righteous hatred for sinners.
“God judgeth the righteous, and God is angry with the wicked every day. 12 If he turn not, he will whet his sword; he hath bent his bow, and made it ready.” Psalms 7:11-12
This passage must be taken in conjunction with the whole of Holy Scripture. There is no hint of an instruction for us to be angry with the wicked in Psalms 7:11. It merely says God is angry with them and wants sinners to turn to Him before it’s too late (v. 12).
When John the Baptist, Jesus, and the apostle Peter preached “Repent,” it was just that – “Repent.” They didn’t say “Repent and stop all sinning.” Why? Because stopping sinning is not possible until one repents. It’s only then that the new creature in Christ can “bring forth fruit” meet for (consistent with) their repenting (Matthew 3:7-10). It was only AFTER Jesus forgave the woman caught in adultery that He commanded her to “go, and sin no more,” right? Yes. First, He forgave her which repents salvation (John 8). Of necessity, in the divine economy, repentance is a gift from God and comes before a holy life. Such divine order must be kept intact, or the original Gospel will be perverted (Revelation 22:18-19).
Today, we have a whole cult of street preachers who somehow justify hating sinners. When they say “Repent and stop all sinning,” it’s with no concern in their hearts that those sinners repent. In the inflection, the attitude of their voice, it seems apparent that they desire those sinners they’re yelling at to go to hell and feel self-righteous by harshly reminding them of such a horrible, irreversible fate. When Jesus called men to “Repent” it was in utter concern of heart that He did so, weeping, longing, and desiring for those precious eternal souls to be saved because He is “not willing that ANY should perish” (1 Timothy 2:4; 2 Peter 3:9) … “The wrath of man worketh not the righteousness of God” (James 1:20). Today some among us want to call down fire from Heaven to destroy lost souls who are currently in rebellion. This is what Christ’s own disciples did in their early days of immaturity. Listen to Jesus please:
“And John answered and said, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name; and we forbad him, because he followeth not with us. 50 And Jesus said unto him, Forbid him not: for he that is not against us is for us. 51 And it came to pass, when the time was come that he should be received up, he stedfastly set his face to go to Jerusalem, 52 And sent messengers before his face: and they went, and entered into a village of the Samaritans, to make ready for him. 53 And they did not receive him, because his face was as though he would go to Jerusalem. 54 And when his disciples James and John saw this, they said, Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did? 55 But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of. 56 For the Son of man is not come to destroy men’s lives, but to save them. And they went to another village.” Luke 9:49-56
Jesus rebuked His 12 when they possessed this unwarranted, hateful disposition toward others.
“I think of the sweet lady and my sister and one of my best friends telling me about Jesus! They knew this wonderful person who knew everything they had ever done! Could this be the Messiah? They told me about Him in concern for my soul, in concert with the one they trusted! How this must break God’s heart! It breaks mine! See how Satan operates? The counsel of hell goes something like this: ‘If compassion is working for true preachers let’s send out false preachers to confuse and anger the masses!’ Thank you for sharing this brother!” CK
Stop Sinning? How?
Where’s the compassion with these sign-waving, yelling preachers who never actually WIN souls… but rather just condemn them by telling them to do something they cannot possibly do – stop sinning?
Knowing Christ is what pleases God, not just trying to stop doing the mechanics (transgression, actual act) of sin.
The main point of this post is to confront the “stop sinning” protesting. Even if a rank sinner or backslider possibly could stop sinning …. that would not please God. “The LORD looketh on the heart” (1 Samuel 16:7). It’s about relationship says Christ (John 17:3, etc.).
So, they walk away thinking God just wants them to perform?
That’s not the biblical approach brother. We must study closer Christ’s and His apostle’s interaction and instructions in this matter.
Yes, and the Word tells us to WIN souls … what is being addressed in this post is how many of the street preachers are not even intending to WIN those souls… but rather simply yelling at them, hurling condemnations.
The law is to be used to convict the sinner, not signs telling them to stop sinning. Sinners are sinners “by nature” (Ephesians 2:3) and it’s the Law that convicts them, not us.
MODERN STREET PREACHERS BUSTED! In light of the biblical prescription for holiness – the cross – those who go on the streets and tout their ridiculous “STOP SINNING!” signs are seen to be completely in the flesh. And that’s what they are – of the flesh. And, that’s exactly why these unholy men are standing on the streets demanding that sinners do the impossible – STOP SINNING! Jesus says, “Come unto me” and His apostles and church say “Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.” Here’s the whole verse: “And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely” (Revelation 22:17).
The LORD told us that as we follow Him He’ll make us to become fishers of men (Matthew 4:19). When God saves a soul, He makes them a saint and it’s only then that they can overcome sin through an abiding relationship with Christ (2 Corinthians 5:17-18; John 15).
QUESTION ASKED:
“Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men” (2 Corinthians 5:11). You think it’s wrong to tell a man you must turn from sin, if you to turn to God?
REPLY:
Hi brother. No, that is not wrong. That is correct … yet it’s not correct or seen in Scripture where Jesus or the apostles or early church told lost souls to stop sinning. That is no different than telling a bear to stop going to the bathroom in the woods … sinners are that way “by nature” (Ephesians 2:3), and until their nature is changed, which only God can do, they cannot possibly stop sinning. Even if they could it’s not enough because “ye must be born again” or receive “the washing of regeneration” which is where God makes His new child a “new creature” (2 Corinthians 5:17-18). It’s only then that “all things are made new” and that person is now in Christ’s kingdom, granted His grace and Spirit and enabled to live pleasing to Him…not before. There is no salvation without regeneration which is synonymous with being “born again” (John 3:3, 7; Titus 3:5-6).
COMMENTS FROM STREET PREACHER CONFRONTED FOR TELLING SINNERS TO “STOP SINNING” BEFORE THEY GET SAVED OR IN ORDER TO BE SAVED:
“Then why does Jesus condemn people in the Bible? Why would God command them to cleanse themselves? Is repenting a work? Is ‘cleanse your hands you sinners’ a work? Is surrendering a work? See James for details…His sacrifice requires our obedience. Who are you to say I or Finney are not in Christ? How do you judge that righteously?”
REPLY:
See what you think …. food for thought if nothing else ….
The Gospel command begins with one word – “repent” and God changes the hearts of men AFTER that fact. Standing up and preaching, “Stop sinning” is not the way the LORD and His apostles and early church approached sinners. They have to have a regenerated spirit before they can stop sinning. we must allow God to clean the fish He uses us to catch.
The Gospel doesn’t begin with “stop sinning” but “repent.” There are no verses that say sinners are to stop sinning before or in order to get saved. There are none, friend.
One must be in Christ to stop sinning or else He came in vain. I pray God opens your eyes to this truth …. Finney was a false teacher.
I didn’t say you aren’t in Christ. Finney taught falsely and yes, I said it … standing on two feet – on the Rock of divine authority – the Holy Scriptures. The fact that you are reacting to Finney being called out is concerning.
“Finney told sinners to present THEIR righteousness to God. But in the gospel God does some presenting too. He has presented Christ as a propitiation, Romans 3: 25. Finney insisted that Christ ‘could not … obey as our substitute,’ yet he repeatedly said that Christ’s death was vicarious.” Charles Finney, Lecture 8, “Obedience to the Moral Law” p. 364
Eternal life was earned by Christ, not on our merit.
Many of those in street preacher circles today are largely influenced by his false teachings. The initial obedience is repenting, according to the record of Scripture, not the futile attempt to stop sinning. One’s nature must first be changed by the LORD.
Stop sinning by your own will? No one can stop sinning until God saves them. And no sinner can cease being a sinner in their spiritual state until the LORD makes them a new creature in Christ, regenerating them (2 Corinthians 5:17-18; Titus 3:3-7).
Yes, repentance is an essential and it precedes the fruit of good works after they are saved, not before.
“He that WINNETH souls is wise” (Prov 11:30), not he that condemningly yelleth at them.
You say, “BUT, BUT, BUT Jesus said, ‘Go and Sin No More’!”
“Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more” (John 8:11 KJV).
NOTE THE ORDER lest you put forth an imbalance as some are doing. Jesus FIRST forgave the woman and THEN and only THEN did He tell her to “go, and sin no more” (John 8:11). God first has to do a work – the work of regeneration – in men, before they can fulfill His will and please Him.
You are not winning souls for Christ when you first demand that sinners stop sinning. When Jesus saw the lost multitudes, was He moved with condemnation and contempt or with compassion? See Matthew 9:35-38. Jesus harshly rebuked the rich and the religious, but never the rank heathen. If we are going to be biblical, we must approach sinners with compassion and allow the law to convict them … “For the wrath of man worketh not the righteousness of God” (James 1:20).
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Mission Mexico Part 48
THE NEXT 20,000 JESUS TRACTS ARE NOW BEING PRINTED!
Money for the next 20,000 JESUS tracts as come in!
“On it’s way via Paypal. Happy to be able to help supply those, and that you have provided a way and members of our family to distribute them…so, can I say also: GONE FISHING for the Lord.
As I am no longer physically able to go fishing in person, thank you for finding and equipping those who are. As we all work together in THE FAMILY OF GOD, for the final round-up. Praying for a huge round-up, and that each and every tract sends the Holy Spirit right into their hearts and souls. Bless you Brother Todd.
I always loved Acts 16:31 – Then I pray that those who were touched, then spread it to their families and friends, so that “You and your household may be saved.” Crystal
Below is one picture and part of the ministry of beloved brother Jaime and his 2 sons who are pastor. They live near Mexico City. More coming on their ministering, which we are now blessed to serve, support.
As “labourers TOGETHER with God“, saints “WE” are now supporting pastor Jaime’s ministry work in another part of Mexico.
Your prayers and support are the fuel. “Ask and ye shall receive…” Matthew 7:7
God is good. | Mission Mexico
Brother Mark was miraculously, by divine appointment approached by this beloved brother – Jaime and his wife Luisa who were in town celebrating their wedding anniversary. Brother Jaime is a pastor and their whole family serves our LORD. Their 2 sons who are pastors also. This couple was having a Bible study when they met Mark. They loved the JESUS tract and so brother Mark called me and I brought over nearly a whole box of them to this beloved couple (appr 1200). Jaime and Luisa were thrilled and it looks like this may be another case where we are blessed to support the LORD’s people in doing His work!!!! They were intent on staying connected and so we exchanged contact information. God is moving saints.
Jaime, Luisa, and there 2 sons live in a city outside of Mexico City. The Gospel of Jesus is spreading all over Mexico! They have a church and also a ministry outreach to the broken!
“So mightily grew the word of God and prevailed.” Acts 19:20
Genuine Gospel, Great Commission ministries give the members of the body of Christ the opportunity to obey Jesus by laying up treasure in Heaven (Matthew 6:19-21).
“Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal: 20 But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal: 21 For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.” Matthew 6:19-21
Notice in this passage that Jesus commanded His people to lay up treasure, in Heaven, not on earth.
Would you like to pause and lift Saul in prayer?
Concerning the love offering that came in to print the new batch of 20k JESUS tracts….
“My heart is filled with some much joy that you will be ordering these Jesus tracts. God is so very good! I am praising God for this sister in Christ and her love for Jesus! We are team Jesus! And for the Mexican people’s humble and meek spirits to be so open to the gospel that can save their soul from hell! Look up for our redemption draws near! Very soon we will see our Savior face to face!” Karen Cochran
“Glory to God brother! What wonderful news to hear that support and supply has been furnished by the Lord Jesus Christ through his disciples and blood bought people 🙏 who love the LORD 💞” Jon Crane
Saints, we’re not going to beg or try to manipulate anyone but rather just give out of what we have – and that Gospel fuel comes from Heaven via Christ’s saints …. to the poor and needy, who need God’s love and Word and in some cases, something to eat and a cold water, etc
No doubt that it’s easy to declare on social media that we love and stand for our LORD. And every disciple should! Yet who are we proclaiming Christ to, today, in our real life? Who are we tract-ing? Who’s hearing the Gospel of Jesus through us?
“He that winneth souls is wise.” Proverbs 11:30
I wonder what Jesus would do in the life that looks up to Heaven today by faith and says “Please prepare and send me dear LORD Jesus! Let’s roll Jesus!”
Brother Juan, an elder in Christ, continues daily ministering our LORD’s Gospel, meeting and exhorting, feeding, and sending forth more Gospel laborers for Christ (Matthew 9:35-38; Ephesians 4:11-12). We are super blessed saints, to support our brother Juan and a growing list of Christ’s disciples here in Mexico. Here’s another one. Brother Alejandro. Juan writes: ‘Praying for my brother Alejandro; he wants to serve God and others. Amen.'” Juan the Evangelist
“And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.” Matthew 24:14
Here’s our brother Juan speaking in this video below:
Recently, brother Mark told me that he never feels more at peace than when he is spreading our LORD’s Gospel, handing out Gospel tracts and communicating with people that Jesus died for their sins ….
Our LORD is using each of His beloved saints, daily, and for His eternal glory.
And it’s just begun.
The LORD is perfecting that which concerns your life in Him.
“The LORD will perfect that which concerneth me: thy mercy, O LORD, endureth for ever: forsake not the works of thine own hands.” Psalms 138:8
“Praise Jesus for the word of God growing in the hearts of the people. Daniel 12:3. You guys are God’s shining stars who bring the gospel of hope to the people. Praying!” Karen Cochran
A few days ago, sister Maria called to let me know she was out of JESUS tracts and so I was blessed delivered another 2,000 JESUS tracts to her.
41,000 in print and over 35,000 distributed thus far in Mexico. Getting ready to be 61,000 JESUS tracts in print. Hundreds going out daily.
Brother Juan ministers all day long as he travels between towns and interacts with numerous people…. every day. Christ’s Gospel message flows from this brother like a river. He also ministers to hundreds at a local jail/prison. Thank you for lifting our brother in prayer and for considering supporting. Jesus is coming saints. Let’s roll. Recently brother Mark delivered another box of 2,000 JESUS tracts to Juan.
We are boots on the ground supporting our LORD’s saints, Gospel laborers, here in Mexico (Matthew 9:35-38). Your prayers and support are the fuel of Heaven (Philippians 1:19).
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LAST WEEK: I answered the knock at my door today and there were appr. 10-12 well dressed (uniforms) health care canvassers going through this neighborhood. Each of them readily received the spoken Word and JESUS tracts. Absolute success in sowing the message of our LORD Jesus’ Gospel. 100% reception. God is good.
As usual, here in Mexico, there was complete desire to hear the words of Jesus and no negative resistance whatsoever. These beloved souls eagerly listened and heard (in Spanish) Jesus’ Gospel preached …. that hell is forever, that Jesus died for our sins, and to please repent and receive Jesus Christ today…. all while pointing to the prayer of repentance and faith on the back of the JESUS tract. God is good yes.
God’s people are obediently and with His love and great joy planting the seed of His Word in the hearts of men today. 1 Peter 1:23; Isaiah 55:11; 1 Corinthians 3:6-9
Your prayers coveted for the fruitfulness and supply of this ministry outreach. “We preach Christ crucified.” (1 Corinthians 1:23)
Would you like to pause and lift a prayer for a young man named Gonzo? He’s seen the fruit of the Holy Spirit in several of Christ’s saints here and is wanting to get right with God.
It’s a blessing that with your prayers, love, and financial support, you are declaring that “The People of Mexico Matter for Christ—He died to save them!”
“So mightily grew the word of God and prevailed.” Acts 19:20
IF YOU WANT TO PLEASE SATAN …..
MAKE SURE you do NOT support authentic evangelistic ministries that are literally, actually getting Christ’s Gospel to the lost souls of this world.
The apostle Paul did “the work of an evangelist” and instructed us to do the same.
“Preach the word … But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.” 2 Timothy 4:2, 5
Our KING is coming saints, King JESUS!
Let’s roll beloved of God!
in Christ
todd
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