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Hebrews 5:9 – “Eternal Salvation”

“And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation UNTO ALL THEM THAT OBEY HIM.” Hebrews 5:9

IS Salvation ETERNAL? Is the possession of eternal life eternal, or can it be forfeited?

The proponent of “once truly saved always saved” surmises that “eternal salvation” means that the salvation God grants brings upon the recipient an eternally fixed state of justification. But this violates other known truths and so cannot be concluded by the honest student of Scripture. There is no argument that salvation is eternal, but is it a possession that can be forfeited? What condition does God put upon men to receive and keep His “so great salvation”? (Heb. 2:3) Did you notice in Hebrews 5:9 that it is “unto all them that obey him” that He grants “eternal salvation?” Salvation is eternal, yet not an un-forfeitable possession. “Eternal salvation” is only promised to “them that obey him.” This would include faith and obedience to the end of one’s life (Matt. 7:21, 10:22; Heb. 3:6, 12-14; 10:26-39; Revelation 2:26).

“And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:” Revelation 2:26

Jesus told His own 12 that they must “endure to the end” to be saved – final salvation (Matthew 10:22; 24:13). Christ also taught that people could believe (be saved) and then “fall away.” (Luke 8:12-13) Such is possible, otherwise Jesus would never have spoken such words.

While eternal life is eternal, the possession of eternal life is not eternal but rather conditional. Saving faith to the end which always produces Obedience, is the divinely given condition.

In the context of believing unto salvation and being saved, Jesus Christ invented the term “fall away” and so we know such is possible.

“They on the rock are they, which, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no root, which for a while believe, and in time of temptation fall away.” Luke 8:13

Some believe that because Jesus died once for man, offering Himself as the perfect sacrifice, that this automatically cements the saved person into a state of irrevocable grace and salvation. Paul destroys this argument in Romans 11:19-23 when he tells us that the Jews who were chosen and made God’s covenant people, were “cut off” from Him. The LORD told us in Jeremiah 3:8 that God divorced His own people for their sin.

The inspired writer of Hebrews said more about the finished and completely sufficient work of Christ to redeem men than any other Bible writer, yet this same book contains numerous warnings concerning slipping, falling away and losing out on eternity in Heaven with Christ for departing from the LORD (Heb. 2:2-3; 3:6, 12-15; 6:4-6; 10:26-39; 12:14-15). So, Christ’s finished and perfect work of salvation for mankind does not automatically mean that one who initially partakes of this gift of salvation is forced to remain in it. In the face of volumes of Scripture truth, the Calvinist ardently seeks to force man’s will out of the picture, yet in God’s economy men have the ongoing choice to love and serve Him or not to. The personal decision of the individual is pivotal and will determine his eternal home (Rom. 6:16).

The finished work of Christ is a foundational truth of Christianity, but His accomplishment does not arbitrarily guarantee the final salvation of the individual believer. Christ’s perfect and completed work to save mankind does not change the God-given free will of each human being.

The OSAS counterfeits selectively choose the Bible truths they will observe and those they reject, ignore. Notice that they never mention the original Gospel necessity of repentance, true saving faith which always produce the fruit of good works, denying self, holiness, fearing God, the daily cross, laying down and losing ones life, etc. Yet they run around arguing that they are “once saved always saved” and “eternally secure.”

“My Sin Cannot Separate me from God!”

First of all, this statement is a brazen and blatant attack against the one true God who is “Holy, holy, holy.” (Isa. 6:3) How audaciously pompous to imagine that He who is holy is going to receive and keep one who retains the stain of sin after all Christ did to remove it all!

The LORD told His own covenant people:

“But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear.” Isaiah 59:2

Sin separates man from God and must be repented of for fellowship to be restored (1 Jn. 1:6-10). This is the most basic fact of Scripture. To ignore such is to deny the mission and need for Jesus Christ to come to the earth (Matt. 1:21; Jn. 1:29).

Did Adam and Eve have perfect fellowship with God before the fall? Obviously. What broke that fellowship? Sin. Were they automatically forgiven and restored? No. They had to receive the redemption that the LORD provided as a prefiguring of the blood of Christ to be shed (Gen. 3:21). Without the shedding of life blood can be no forgiveness or protection from the wrath of God and without repentance there is no contact with the divine blood and grace (Lev. 17:11; Rom. 5:9; Heb. 9:22).

“Unto Adam also and to his wife did the LORD God make coats of skins, and clothed them.” Genesis 3:21

The eternal security proponent will say “Everlasting life is everlasting … eternal life is eternal … eternal life can never end. It is everlasting regardless of the believer’s behavior.”

Is this biblical?

In response to this position, Jeff Paton says: “Regardless of behavior? This is rank antinomianism! (lawlessness) It renders all exhortations to holiness in the Scriptures to be absolutely useless.”

The unconditional eternal security proponent will also suppose that according to 1 Peter 1:4 that “Salvation (the inheritance of it) is incorruptible…No one can corrupt something God has made incorruptible.” But they don’t seem to acknowledge the very next words in the next verse. Let’s take a look at both verses together:

“To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you, Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.” 1 Peter 1:4-5  

What is the prerequisite for receiving this “inheritance incorruptible” and being “kept” to receive it? “Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation…”  We are kept “through faith” which is volitional and never forced upon any soul. Those who endure in faithfulness to the LORD will receive this glorious “inheritance incorruptible.”

Of this topic, Jeff Paton says “Thank God that the inheritance is imperishable! We know that it will be there for genuine believers! But don’t miss it! It is there through faith, (v.5) not unbelief! The inheritance is incorruptible, not our possession of it!”

Like Adam, Lucifer was in perfect union with God until they chose to sin and at that point were “cut off” from the LORD as was Israel when she rebelled (Romans 11:20-22). God gave His creation free will and is “Holy, holy, holy” and when one rebels, He ejects them ultimately (Isaiah 6:3; Revelation 4:8). It’s amazing how some act like the Almighty has no ability to reject someone who rebels when HIS-story paints of far different picture. Remember what we read about God cutting off His own covenant people?

“Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear: 21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee. 22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, IF thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.” Romans 11:20-22

Having the Son of God doesn’t mean one can’t “depart” from the Son and “fall away” both of which the Bible specifically states are possible (Luke 8:13; Galatians 5:4; 1 Timothy 4:1). Eternal securists have been taught to isolate a few verses and hyper-interpret, read into the word eternal and to ignore all other Scripture that doesn’t buy into that “can’t lose it” heresy. If being removed from Christ’s kingdom is impossible, please explain why Paul warns Gentile New Testament believers of how God “cut off” Israel, His own people, and how He will “cut off” any Gentile believer who doesn’t continue in the LORD. Why would the Holy Spirit have given such a warning, if being “cut off” from the LORD after knowing Him wasn’t possible?

Did Jesus come to save us in or from our sins?

“And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people FROM their sins.” Matthew 1:21

Why do lists of soul-damning sins appear in the New Testament canon? If ones eternal life were not in jeopardy if he were to live in sin, why were these sins cited to believers? Why do these passages end with the warning that no one living in these sins will inherit eternal life? See Galatians 5:19-21; 1 Corinthians 6:9-10; Revelation 21:8, 27.

IF you teach “eternal security” – words nor concept that appear in Scripture – the Bible specifically says you are an “ungodly man” – Jude 4 … you are perverting the grace of God, making it a license for sin, denying that it / He has the full power in the life of one of His own to cause them to overcome – Titus 2:11-12.

OSAS is the sin-justifying heresy which excuses the delusional ones who espouse it from true repentance and forsaking sin (Proverbs 28:13).

“What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? 2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?” Romans 6:1-2

“He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall have mercy.” Proverbs 28:13

IF you are teaching Satan’s OSAS lie, it proves you are His, not Christ’s-repent devil – Genesis 2:17; 3:4.

OSAS is a doctrine of devils peddled by grace-perverting frauds whom we are divinely mandated to “earnestly contend” against (Jude 3-4).

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Abiding

The Danger of Joining a Modern Church [podcast]


Fruit. Fruit. Fruit.

“Either make the tree good, and his fruit good; or else make the tree corrupt, and his fruit corrupt: for the tree is known by his fruit.” Matthew 12:33

Speaking of the pattern of one’s life, Jesus taught that a good tree cannot bear bad fruit. A bad tree cannot bear good fruit.

“Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. 16 Ye shall know (discern) them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? 17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. 19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. 20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.” Matthew 7:15-20

Jesus commanded His people to “know” which is to discern all “by their fruits”—to be fruit inspectors—first in their own lives and then in all others (1 Corinthians 11:31-32; 2 Corinthians 13:5).

Personally, I fail to find anywhere that Jesus or His apostles instructed any saints to “go find a local church and plug in.” Hebrews 10:25 is peddled by pastors today who seek a loyal following instead of seeking to fulfill their God-given duties to establish their hearers in the faith, to ground them in God’s Word, to equip them for the work of the ministry, etc.

“Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.” Hebrews 10:25

Read that again please. Does it say to find a church? No. Those who are born again ARE already God’s “church” which simply means His called out people. More biblically, should we not simply be His church—His people, daily? This seems to be the pattern we see among the earliest followers of Jesus (Acts 2:42-47; 5:42; Colossians 3:16, etc.).

The authentic remnant elect of Christ do not patronize or bid Godspeed to false leaders (2 John 9-11; Revelation 2:2).

Refusing to sit under, condone, bid Godspeed to the false gospel, false doctrines, false teachers and wolves of the modern church … is not forsaking the assembly! Instead, it’s obedience to God who mandates that we “mark them,” that we “earnestly contend” against them, and warns us that anyone who bids Godspeed to them will be punished with them (Romans 16:17-18; Jude 3; 2 John 10-11).

If you are prone to cite Hebrews 10:25 to advocate for going to church weekly, consider where you learned that. In churches, right? Funny you probably don’t even have 10 Bible verses memorized and yet, to the benefit of the pastor, you know that one. What does this tell us? What does this reveal? What’s wrong with this picture?

What happens when people get loyal to a local church especially in this late hour where great apostasy was foretold? Here are a few obvious things that happen when someone “joins a church.”

  • Most people who join churches today are not even born again, are not told they must repent and believe on Jesus to be born again. They become proud of their pastor and friends at that gathering (Zechariah 11:17).
  • Church members are not learning the Word of God itself because they are simply being led by a wolf who is fostering their allegiance toward himself, not Christ (Colossians 2:8-10, 18-19; 3:1-4).
  • They are not becoming soul winners (Proverbs 11:30; Luke 19:10).
  • Attenders of modern churches are seldom if ever taught, established with personal knowledge of the Scriptures, the paramount truth that God’s Word itself is the final divine authority on all matters of the Christian faith and the practice of it (Deuteronomy 4:10; Psalms 119; 138:2; Isaiah 40:8; Mark 13:31; John 10:35; Romans 3:4; 2 Timothy 3:15-17; 2 Peter 1:19-21).
  • The Bible message, warning to “love not the world” is seldom or never heard. Those who live worldly are separated from God (James 4:4; 1 John 2:15-17).
  • Fake pastor do not teach people to get into God’s Word for themselves and so church attenders today are not in the Word daily for themselves which is by satanic design and therefore have no biblical foundation  (Psalms 11:3; Matthew 7:19-29; 2 Timothy 2:15).
  • When do we hear in modern churches that Jesus Christ is the Grand Subject of all of Holy Scripture? We don’t (Psalms 40:7-8; Luke 24:25-27, 44-46; John 5:39-40; 2 Peter 1:19-21).
  • They are never taught the value God places upon good works in those He saves by His grace (Ephesians 2:8-10; Titus 1:16; 3:8; 1 John 2:4).
  • The Great Commission Jesus gave to His people is never mentioned and when it is, they’ve turned it into just another way of promoting themselves, their own brand, ministry (Matthew 28:18-20; Mark 16:15-20; Luke 24:47; Book of Acts).
  • They are not being equipped “for the work of the ministry” which is the duty being carried out by every authentic overseer of Christ’s church (Ephesians 4:11-12; 1 Peter 5:1-6).
  • Never taught in the modern churches is the fact that God holds each person He saves personally responsible, personally accountable for following Jesus daily (Deuteronomy 24:16; Joshua 24:14-15; Luke 21:34-36; 2 Timothy 2:15; Hebrews 3:6, 12-14; 10:26-39; 12:14; Revelation 2-3, etc.).
  • Modern day church members are not in the Word for themselves and the pastors have led them to this biblical illiteracy because they are building a church busine$$ and dumb people are easy prey/targets to rob (Isaiah 9:16; 56:8-12; Jeremiah 23; Ezekiel 34; Matthew 23; 2 Thessalonians 2:9-12; 2 Timothy 4:2-4, etc.).
  • Church goers are barely or never heard the essential cross message which Jesus requires to follow Him (Matthew 16:24-25; Luke 9:23-24; Romans 6; 2 Corinthians 4:10-12; Galatians 2:20; 5:24; Colossians 3:3, etc.).
  • They are never warned of going to hell if they die in sin (Ezekiel 33:12-13; Matthew 10:22; 24:13; Hebrews 3:6; 10:26-39; Revelation 21:8, 27).
  • They are never taught that God is “Holy, holy, holy” and that He requires that those who are His be holy as He is holy (Isaiah 6:3; 1 Peter 1:15-16; Revelation 4:8).
  • Those who attend a church are never informed that only those who overcome sin and Satan will be with Jesus eternally which is exactly what Christ told each and every one of the seven churches of Asia minor (Revelation 2-3).
  • They are never taught that saving grace without exception results in the saved living according to the Scripture: “Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world; (Titus 2:11-12).
  • Members are taught the demonic lie of eternal security/once saved always saved , which is Satan’s first teaching and irrefutably led to the fall of mankind in the Garden (Genesis 2:17; 3:4).
  • The mountains of warnings in Scripture are intentionally hidden from the congregational dupes who are willingly biblically ignorant, having rejected the knowledge/Word of God (Ezekiel 3:7; Hosea 4:6; 2 Corinthians 5:11; Colossians 1:28; Jude 3-4, etc.).
  • Most church members are not taught that only those who remain in Christ after being saved will be with Him eternally (Matthew 25:1-13; John 15:6; Romans 11:20-22, etc.).
  • Modern church attenders are seldom if ever warned to come out from this sinful world in the way they live (2 Corinthians 6:14-7:1).
  • They are lukewarm which means hell bound if they don’t repent (Luke 3:15-16).
  • The original Gospel essential, the command to “repent” is never heard, even though it was the very first word spoken by John the Baptist, Jesus, and the apostle Peter in their ministries (Matthew 3:2; 4:17; Acts 2:38; 3:19; 17:30).
  • Modern church members are merely a participant of a “Christian” social club seen nowhere in Scripture (Cp. Acts 2:42-47).
  • Their loyalty and allegiance is toward the pastor, singing group, and fellow congregants (Proverbs 21:16).
  • They are never taken through the volumes of Holy Scripture where God judged His very own people who backslid (Numbers 16; 25; Romans 11:20-22; 1 Corinthians 10:1-12; Hebrews 3-4; Jude 1).
  • Church members are taught to become dependent on their church affiliation, connection, and attendance and not the LORD (Matthew 15:8).
  • They are not daily seeking the face of the LORD (1 Chronicles 16:11; Psalms 27:4, 8; 57:7; 63:8; Matthew 6:33; Luke 9:23-24).
  • Seminarian led church members are seldom if ever taught that for eternal glory with Him Jesus requires the decisive cutting off of the hand and plucking out of the eye of any sin that defiles them in the eyes of a holy God (Mark 9:43-49).
  • When the Bible is literally read, 99% of the time it’s from a vatican corrupted fake “bible.”
  • Most are barely if at all different from any lost soul around them in their daily life (2 Corinthians 6:14-18).
  • Due to their own refusal to truly repent and walk with Jesus daily, they were sent strong delusion, are in darkness and deception, and therefore “remain in the congregation of the dead” (Proverbs 21:16).

“God is greatly to be feared in the assembly of the saints, and to be had in reverence of all them that are about him.” Psalms 89:7

The words “leader” and “leaders” appear 6 times (total) in God’s Word. It is always to be in context of servant leading (Matthew 20:20-28; 23:8-12; 1 Peter 5:1-6). In the following and most popular times “leaders” is used, it’s in the negative, as in false “leaders.”

“For the LEADERS of this people cause them to err; and they that are led of them are destroyed.” Isaiah 9:16

“Let them alone: they be blind LEADERS of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.” Matthew 15:14

They love their darkness rather than the light of His truth and therefore craft, they erect the image of a false god in their wicked unrepentant hearts.

“Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10 and with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12 that they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.” 2 Thessalonians 2:9-12

“Jeremiah 7. The people were wicked and evil, placing their trust in the temple, instead of God, and believing their religious activities would be pleasing to the Lord. But they were committing all kinds of sins, deluding themselves into thinking that they were secure. God said, I will cast you out of my sight! And instructed Jeremiah not to pray for them. They refused to obey the Lord God nor receive correction, and the truth had perished, so God said, I will cut them off from my mouth! Wow! Isn’t this exactly what we are seeing in this late hour? There comes a time when the Lord has had enough and cuts them off! And judgment falls upon those who don’t want the truth.” Karen Cochran

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Abiding

Jesus Conquered Sin, Satan, and Death by Dying [podcast]


“Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil; 15 And deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage.” Hebrews 2:14-15

Through death Jesus conquered sin, death, and Satan and made His people free, washing away their sins in His precious blood and putting His Holy Spirit in them, empowering them to live fruit-filled victorious lives to His eternal glory!

Christ’s resurrection guarantees our resurrection – both now and for eternnity. Those raised up with Christ now are those who are crucified with Him. This is His holy “remnant.” (Isaiah 37:31; Romans 8:11; 1 Corinthians 15, etc.).

Jesus conquered sin and death (separation) by dying on His cross. Because of this, we need never live outside of an abiding relationship with Christ. His grace is sufficient to provide everything He died to purchase for us – and all these blessings are appropriated via our faith, our abiding in Him (John 15; Romans 6:14; 2 Corinthians 12:9-10; Hebrews 4:14-16; 7:24-26, etc.).

In order to be raised up, to walk in His resurrection power and grace, we must first be dead and buried with Christ.

“For he that is dead is freed from sin.” Romans 6:7

***ALL Heaven’s going to break out when this hits you in the heart, when your heart perceives this cross economy divine revelation.

Finishing Strong mean Finishing Crucified and Resurrected

HOW will you finish? It’s really how you finish that matters most! (2 Timothy 4:7-8) Finish strong beloved – lay down your life, death and burial, so that the strength of your life is Christ’s resurrection grace! (See 2 Corinthians 12:9-10) Go down deep.

“And the remnant that is escaped of the house of Judah shall again take root downward, and bear fruit upward:” Isaiah 37:31

Read the verse above again, looking for the death, the burial, and raising up!

The context Isaiah 37:31 concerns Assyria seeking to seize Judah and yet out of that evil attempt to conquer God’s people came a “remnant.” Yet it’s those who submitted to the LORD in death, those who took root downward (death and burial) who were reciprocally raised up out of that snare and destruction. Resurrection grace wins every time, with no exception! The cross is the divine prescription for absolute victory in every situation.

God counteracts death by the promise of resurrection – now and in eternity! (1 Corinthians 15; 2 Corinthians 4:10-12).

“Always bearing about in the body the dying of the Lord Jesus, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our body. 11 For we which live are alway delivered unto death for Jesus’ sake, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our mortal flesh. 12 So then death worketh in us, but life in you.” 2 Corinthians 4:10-12

The depth you allow God to bury you determines the height of His resurrection, His raising up in your life! (See 2 Corinthians 4:10-12)

“Bow down thine ear, and hear the words of the wise, and apply thine heart unto my knowledge. 18 For it is a pleasant thing if thou keep them within thee; they shall withal be fitted in thy lips. 19 That thy trust may be in the LORD, I have made known to thee this day, even to thee. 20 Have not I written to thee excellent things in counsels and knowledge, 21 That I might make thee know the certainty of the words of truth; that thou mightest answer the words of truth to them that send unto thee?” Proverbs 22:17-21

“Forasmuch then as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves likewise with the same mind: for he that hath suffered in the flesh hath ceased from sin; 2 That he no longer should live the rest of his time in the flesh to the lusts of men, but to the will of God.” 1 Peter 4:1-2 

“And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin. 6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.” 1 John 3:5-6

“What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? 20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God’s.” 1 Corinthians 6:19-20

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