Do God’s People Need to Know the Original Languages to understand His Word? [podcast]
There are people going around saying we don’t have God’s Word today in our own language and therefore must learn Hebrew and Greek to truly understand it. Is this true? No.
SO, let me get this straight ….. GOD Almighty can’t cause His own people to understand HIS Word to them in their own language? If that were the case, why did He tell us that He was going to preserve His Word to us? (Psalms 12:6-7) This is a serious indictment upon the Almighty by deceived and darkened self-centered sinful souls who want you to believe they really know Hebrew and Greek, two dead languages. Ask them to read and also write a paragraph for you in those languages with NO help from google. Dead silence. They are caught in their own deception and need to repent. These counterfeits go around pretending to be superior in Bible knowledge. Frauds.
Saying we can’t understand the Word of God unless we know the original languages is pure fiction perpetrated by those who seek to elevate themselves above others which is the soul-damning sin of “emulations.” (Galatians 5:19-21) This is a classic deception, a maneuver to position oneself over others – instead of living in the mind of Christ where we elevate others above ourselves (Philippians 2:3-5). The Nicolaitans come to mind (Nico-laitans = conquer the people via lies).
1. Greek, Aramaic, and/or Hebrew not needed to understand God’s Word in our own language KJB. Most of the very people who make this claim do not even read or write in those languages and so according to their own standard, THEY themselves cannot understand God’s Word. Next time you meet someone who makes this claim, ask them to speak a few sentences for them in Hebrew, Greek, and Aramaic. Oh and write a few sentences in those languages too. Watch the smile vanish from their face.
GOD preserved His Word for us in our own language. It’s not a sin to look at the Hebrew or Greek and yet, such is not needed. Get to know Psalms 12:6-7. We HAVE God’s Word “preserved” for us by Him in our own language – English – in the King James Bible. No Hebrew or Greek needed. Repent and get over yourself. If you claim to “know” these languages and yet can’t read Hebrew and Greek, if you can’t speak in Hebrew and Greek, cease your virtue signaling, hypocrite. By your own erroneous standard you are unable to understand God’s Word because you don’t read and write in the original languages. You are embarrassing yourself.
“The Holy Ghost teacheth.” 1 Corinthians 2:13
God is all wise and had His Word preserved in our own language – nothing was lost (Psalms 12:6-7). That does mean looking up a Greek or Hebrew word is going to hurt anything. Yet the Bible instructions concerning properly “rightly dividing the word of truth” is to thoroughly study God’s Word in our own language, “precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line”, “comparing (collating, putting together) spiritual things with spiritual.” (2 Timothy 2:15; Isaiah 28:13; 1 Corinthians 2:13)
Jesus says that the Holy Ghost and the Word are our teachers, not the original languages (2 Tim 3:16-17; Ps 119:105; John 14:26; 16:13-14; 1 John 1:20-21, etc.).
Church history is mostly if not totally a waste of time to study and so is attempting to master the original languages the Bible was written in (Hebrew, Greek, Aramaic). There is no divine authority in church history or in learning the original languages. Selah. God preserved His Word to us in our own language as He promised – and this is so we didn’t have to learned another language to understand what He stated (Psalms 12:6-7). What a gracious KING we serve! Personally, I’m usually careful with those who have a pretended higher, superior view of Scripture based on their supposed knowledge of the original (now dead) languages. Such apparent pride alone reveals they haven’t learned much yet from their pretended knowledge of the original languages. Do we know all about the necessity of humility in the English? (See Matthew 18:3-4; 20:24-28; 23:8-12, etc..) I usually ask them if they speak or read or write in those original languages and usually the answer is silence. | Church History is a Waste
Make no mistake: It’s none other than the “spirit of antichrist” that is behind this unfounded, heretical notion that you have to learn the original languages to understand the Bible (1 John 4:1-3). Laughable. This is just another attempt of Satan to get people to not seek God, to make things seem difficult. Anyone parroting this lie of the devil is under the influence of Satan himself.
BEWARE of those who try to convince you with their Greek acrobatics that they are far superior in Bible knowledge than you are. It’s 100% a sham. Pull their rug!
I just shared with just such a man the following rebuke:
NOT impressed with your supposed handle on the Hebrew and Greek. Do you speak and write in Greek? I didn’t think so. Did God give us His Word in our own language? Yes He did. Psalms 12:6-7 King James Bible.
Saints, to infer that we need to know Hebrew and Greek to truly understand God’s Word is an indictment against the Almighty who preserved for us His Word in our own language. This is just another doubt casting “Hath God said” ploy, deception of Satan (Genesis 3:1).
“THE KEY OF KNOWLEDGE”
“Woe unto you, lawyers! for ye have taken away the key of knowledge: ye entered not in yourselves, and them that were entering in ye hindered.” Luke 11:52
Taking away the simple understanding of the Bible, of law, from the common man, is the work of Satan – the great manipulator, the changer of God’s Word (Genesis 2:17; 3:1, 4). Examples of taking “away the key of knowledge” would include how the roman catholic cult hid the truth from most of its adherents by keeping their pagan “mass” ceremony in Latin till the 1960’s because most of their captives didn’t speak or understand Latin. Another example of taking “away the key of knowledge” is the modern unlawful “legal” system and how they’ve doctored the law by changing the meaning of the words. They did such to take away the simple, self-evident understanding of words in order for the common man to understand.
“Can the blind lead the blind? shall they not both fall into the ditch?” Luke 6:39
Yet this key of knowledge is hidden from the people. Let’s read Jesus’ words again:
“Woe unto you, lawyers! for ye have taken away the key of knowledge: ye entered not in yourselves, and them that were entering in ye hindered.” Luke 11:52
Here Jesus is addressing evil doers who take away the ability for the average person or even child to understand God’s Word, His will. To take away the “key” is to disallow people from having access to the goods, the knowledge of God, the truth. Think about that. Ponder what our LORD is conveying here, the principle of it – and use this truth to discern the world around you. Is this not how people get “destroyed”?
“My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.” Hosea 4:6
Our lack of knowledge of how man’s government law works against us. Such would include not knowing the 5th Amendment to the Constitution.
“The Fifth Amendment creates a number of rights relevant to both criminal and civil legal proceedings. In criminal cases, the Fifth Amendment guarantees the right to a grand jury, forbids “double jeopardy,” and protects against self-incrimination.”
Notice “protects against self-incrimination.” So, this seems to convey that the individual is not accountable to give any information at all, including any information that could and will be used AGAINST him in a court of law. So, one must act wisely, know his rights, lest he be seduced by cops or otherwise to produce information that would and could incriminate him. It can be observed that policemen are well trained at seducing their prey out of their rights. This is done for the reason of getting information, many times, to use against the person whose right to silence is being violated or hidden.
God’s Word is Self and Holy Spirit Interpretive
God’s Word is easily understood by even children. It’s self-interpretive. He who died for all and loves all of mankind made sure of that. In fact it’s only the humble in heart, the true seekers whom He gives the knowledge of Himself to. Jesus says:
“At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes.” Matthew 11:25
Why would God have gone to such great lengths to see that we have His Word in our own language, if He knew we weren’t going to be able to understand it? See Psalms 12:6-7.
Do we realize the evil indictment this is against the LORD? Why would God hide His blessings from true seekers? He wouldn’t and the record of His Word itself and all the way through, make this plain, evident.
It is always SATAN himself behind the stumbling blocks, keeping God’s truth (which reveals the Great Savior) away from the common people.
“In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.” 2 Corinthians 4:4
In order to keep the Savior Christ from the people, His Word must be kept from them. Those without God’s Word are in darkness. They can have no “light,” no “understanding” without it.
“Light” and “understanding” replace darkness and lack of understanding by nothing else but the written Word of God (2 Timothy 3:15-17).
“The entrance of thy words giveth light; it giveth understanding unto the simple.” Psalms 119:130
Jesus informs us that He has come to give mankind “life … more abundantly” and that it’s Satan who has come “to steal, and to kill, and to destroy:” (John 10:10). History holds the record that it was none other than Satan’s Roman Catholic church that murdered millions who were instrumental in bringing the Word of God to the forefront, into manifestation for all people (William Tyndale, the Waldensians, etc.). See Foxe’s Book of Martyrs (the original version).
Anyone teaching the above heresy – that one must understand Greek and Hebrew to understand God and His Word – is putting a stumbling block in the way of others and is under divine condemnation. It is Satan and those under His control who don’t want you to know God’s Word. This is the same war against God and mankind that Satan waged from the Garden of Eden (Genesis 3:1, 4).
DECEPTION:
We often hear compromisers perhaps self-righteously say “But I use several versions.” Is that a good thing? No.
REPLY:
“How can we put an ounce of confidence, credibility, in that which is a corruption of what God stated? Is it not SATAN behind the casting doubt upon God’s Word and changing of it? See Genesis 2:17; 3:1, 4. Is God now ‘the author of confusion’? See 1 Corinthians 14:33. Does He need us to read His enemy’s versions of what HE stated to understand His will, etc.? Think about this.”
WHO Came to Take Away God’s Words?
Jesus says “Satan cometh immediately, and taketh away the word” (Mark 4:15).
The taking away of the Word from the common people is done in many ways, including telling them they can’t understand it unless they learn the original languages. Anyone teaching this is guilty of taking away the key of knowledge, of grieving and hindering the work of the Holy Spirit (Luke 11:52; Ephesians 4:30).
Satan wars against the Word – against people, the common people, being able to have the Word of God in their language and understand it. Now that we have it in our languages, Satan attempts to convince people that they can’t understand it unless they 1. go to seminary, 2. learn the original languages, 3. use several different versions, etc. Nonsense.
The beloved William Tyndale was murdered by Satan’s Roman Catholic church for translating the Bible, God’s Word, into the common language of the people – so they could know it and know God for themselves (Hosea 4:6; John 5:39-40; 20:31; Psalms 119:130; 2 Timothy 3:16-17, etc.). When the common people can read God’s Word for themselves in their own language, they are enlightened by the LORD and see His true and also see the false prophets, false religions for what they really are – the enemy’s trap door to send people to eternal hell.
The Catholic Church is Satan’s Monstrosity and has done Nothing Except Attack God’s Word
Leslie R Wilds writes:
“Did you know that when the King James Bible came out (besides the Tyndale Bible which was suppressed because they murdered him) it was the only Bible available to the General Public? Because the Catholic Church suppressed it. It came out before German rationalism, English deism, or French atheism, ever raised their ugly heads. All of that including Darwinism is a direct assault against the King James Bible because the Word of God became available to everyone through the English king who authorized it. Whether you like the king or not, King James Bible is the Word of God is not to be altered ever.”
The next time some arrogant deceived person attempts to convince you that you need to know the original languages (Hebrew and Greek) from which we derived our English Bible (KJB), ask them to speak and write just 1 Bible verse to you in Hebrew or Greek. This stops them dead in their tracks. Foolishness. As He promised, and kept His promise, God gave us His Word in our language (Psalms 12:6-7). Oh and Jesus says the written Word and Holy Spirit who gave that Word are your Teachers! See John 14:26; 16:13-14.
Beware of the doubt-casters who are the agents of Satan himself – the original doubt caster. The idea that English speaking people need the Greek and Hebrew, two dead languages, is just another complete deception. God preserved His perfect Word to us in our own language – just as He promised in Psalms 12:6-7.
A group called the “Institute of Biblical Studies” advertises the following:
“Know the Bible as you’ve never known it before! Look through the window of the original Hebrew to gain a deeper understanding of the text. Sign up Now. Uncover hidden meanings in the Scriptures by learning Biblical Hebrew and engaging with the Old Testament as never before!”
Is this true or is it a scam?
THE ORIGINALS?
Where is the perfect Word of God?
Some would tell you that you have to “go back to the originals.”
FACT: None of the originals exist.
FACT: Originals were never collated together in one book.
FACT: Originals were written in 2 now dead languages.
FACT: It’s Satan influencing some to cast doubt on whether we have God’s Word in our language (Gen 3:1).
FACT: God promised to preserve His Word to us in our own language (Ps 12:6-7). Are you calling Him a liar? Did He keep His promise? Do you understand English? Did He leave you without His Word in your own language? No.
SATAN has control over so many who vainly claim to be saved. He is behind the “Hath God said” doubting, questioning of God’s Word just like their father the devil who did so from the beginning, in the Garden, causing the fall of mankind (Genesis 3:3). So many claim to trust the LORD for salvation and yet don’t even believe God preserved His Word for us in this late hour – as He expressly foretold He would do (Ps 12:6-7). “Few there be which enter therein” (Matthew 7:13-14).
People who aren’t truly serving the LORD want to believe they are justified in their sin because they erroneously believe that there is no perfect Bible. They foolishly believe this gives them a free pass to live in sin, lukewarm, which is hell bound (Revelation 3:15-16).
Here’s why it’s certain that sin and an evil spirit are behind the questioning of God’s Word (Genesis 3:1)….. WHO said: “Hath God said?” (Genesis 3:1). Satan!
YOU know a person is under the direct control of SATAN when they question God’s Word – by casting doubt on His obvious preserved Word. There’s no other conclusion when you understand that SATAN was the first and perpetually the one behind casting doubt on God’s words – “Hath God said?” (Genesis 3:1). You MUST grasp this. This doubt-casting questioning led to the fall of mankind in the Garden of creation and is leading to the fall of many today who are wise in their own conceit, blind, and walking in darkness!
So, let’s get some things straight….Do YOU speak and write in Hebrew? No. God promised to give us His Word in our language, to preserve it for us and He did so in the KJB. (Psalms 12:6-7). … So you claim to NOT be able to understand the King James Bible in your native language, English, that you’ve learned since you were born, and now you claim that someone needs to study 2 dead languages to understand His Word? God fulfilled His promise to preserve His Word to us in our language. – “The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. 7 Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt PRESERVE them from this generation for ever” (Psalms 12:6-7).
DECEPTION:
Someone may say “Well, you say that the King James Bible is God’s Word but prove that the King James Bible is God’s Word.”
REPLY:
Prove that any of the other English “bibles” are His preserved Word. You can’t. They were taken from corrupted manuscripts. It’s easy to prove that the King James Bible is the fulfillment of the divine preservation promise of Psalms 12:6-7. You must begin with His divine promise to preserve His Word (Psalms 12:6-7) and then out of an honest heart you simply, objectively compare verses side by side, having nothing to hide and no agenda but to know the truth. Those bent on defending obvious corrupt “bibles” have sin and darkness in their hearts (John 3:19-21). See if Colossians 1:14 in your fake “bible” has the BLOOD in it. Then, see if Romans 8:1 is chopped in half. And see if that corruption you call a “bible” has removed Matthew 17:21. Case closed.
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“The KJV in comparison to the original Greek, Hebrew and Aramaic, as you put it, is a ‘cheap knockoff!’ Not everyone can understand, nor comprehend the KJV, that’s why we have the blessing of the Holy Spirit!”
REPLY:
So did the Holy Spirit of God sanction the butchering of His own words in direct contradiction to His severe warning in Revelation 22:18-19? Also, the divine promise of the preservation of His Word means that His real Word in our language is exactly what He wants us to have and equal to those languages from which it came (Ps 12:6-7). You are what some call a Bible agnostic which is a person who believes God originally gave man His Word and then changed and dropped the ball.
THERE ARE SO MANY clueless novices, arrogantly claiming to be the authority on the Bible. Very few of them care to learn a few things. They insist they know it all when they are completely ignorant of the truth about God’s Word and how He kept His promise to preserve it to us in our language (Psalms 12:6-7). This reveals some serious depth of darkness these people are in. If they are casting doubt on God’s Word, they are under the power of SATAN who’s the first one to cast doubt on God’s Word (Genesis 3:1). And, we “know them by their FRUIT” (Matthew 7:16, 20). True repentance needed.
WHEN someone casts doubt on God’s Word, in any way, they reveal they are not obeying God’s Word and refuse to. They are unrepentant.
BEWARE: Those who say you have to go back to the originals or original languages are admitting – THAT THEY OPENLY DENY THAT GOD KEPT HIS PROMISE TO PRESERVE HIS WORD TO OUR GENERATION IN OUR LANGUAGE AND THAT WE HAVE NO REAL WORD, INSTRUCTION FROM GOD TODAY (Psalms 12:6-7). This leaves people wide open to be misled by the “many false prophets” Jesus forewarned would come and “deceive many” (Matthew 24:11). If there is no real Word of God, then we aren’t responsible for knowing and obeying it, right? If there is no real Word of God, then we are relegated to listen to mere men and just do what they say and follow them, right?
These who say either, 1. We have no real Word of God today, OR, 2. That any book that says “Holy Bible” on the cover is God’s Word, are what we call “Bible agnostics.” Beware of these wolves! These are some of the vilest of devils who are casting doubt on the integrity and character of God and casting a stumbling block in the path of younger believers – by denying that God left us His Word as He promised to do.
Discrediting or questioning God’s Word reveals that you are a child of the one who did such in the Garden (Genesis 3). All who are “of God” humble receive, believe, and live out God’s Word – all others are “NOT of God.” (John 8:47)
To even come up with some foolish, detracting, groundless argument against God’s Word clearly reveals that such a person is in darkness – which means they are not right with God but rather in rebellion and therefore turned over to darkness (2 Thessalonians 2:9-12). There they are accusing God of lying to us – blaming Him by foolishly accusing Him, saying we don’t have a perfect Bible. So, from the onset of such a conversation, an attack on the LORD, you know you are dealing with a devil.
SOME who dare to cast doubt on God’s Word, the preserved Word to us in the King James Bible, do so out of pure depravity and darkness. You see, they figure if they can sear their own conscience with this heretical idea that “we really don’t have God’s Word because no translation is perfect” … then in their darkness, they vainly believe they are not accountable to a God who didn’t keep His own Word by preserving His Word for us in our language (Psalms 12:6-7). It’s the same for God-less rebels who say things like “the truth of God was lost in translation.” These people are under the dark curse of the enemy of all souls. We “know” (discern) them “By their fruit” as Jesus instructed us to do (Matthew 7:6, 20, etc.).
No other English Bible was needed after the King James Bible came forth – the 7th in the lineage of English Bibles. Is this not in fulfillment of the prophecy of Psalms 12:6-7? It sure is… check this out …. God’s Word is Inspired and Preserved
Certainly, we don’t believe the Holy Spirit of the living God is behind this attack on His own Word, now do we? Impossible! (2 Peter 1:20-21).
Now, there are certainly those who are unlearned and honestly, earnestly looking for the LORD’s answers. Those are the people we wish to help. You may think I am quick triggered and harsh concerning those who dare attack God’s Word. Keep in mind that the first one to do such is Satan himself and so we know from the onset that anyone questioning or casting doubt on God’s Word is of the devil (Genesis 3:1).
Ever notice how those who make accusations against God’s Word can’t back them up? Because they are groundless and those making these false statements are pawns of the father of all lies, Satan – the first one to question God’s Word (John 8:44; Genesis 2:17; 3:1, 4, etc.).
“The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. 7 Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt PRESERVE them from this generation for ever.” Psalms 12:6-7
Did God keep His promise to preserve His Word to us in our language? Yes or no? DARE you claim we don’t really have God’s Word? WHEN someone rejects God’s Word, they are counting themselves unworthy of everlasting life – “Then Paul and Barnabas waxed bold, and said, It was necessary that the word of God should first have been spoken to you: but seeing ye put it from you, and judge yourselves unworthy of everlasting life, lo, we turn to the Gentiles” (Acts 13:46).
ANY born again believer who compares versions side-by side knows/discerns which one is from God and therefore knows all the other fairy tale versions are from Satan – the original corrupter of God’s words (Genesis 3). Saying you have to go back to the original languages calls God a liar, openly denying the preservation of Scripture – because He promised to preserve His Word to all generations (Psalms 12:6-7). Also, nearly no one in the Western or English speaking world could read God’s Word if this were the case, right? Do YOU personally read and speak fluent Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek? No! How many people do you know who do? So, they are basically saying that if people don’t speak and read all these languages, they are out of luck and can’t have and know God’s Word. Delusional.
The Bereans “searched the SCRIPTURES” they had in their own language and not the original languages or anything extra-biblical (Acts 17:10-11). Looking into the Hebrew and Greek is fine but saying or hinting that you can’t understand God’s Word if you don’t know those languages is just another deception of the original doubt-casting perverter of God’s words, Satan. Jesus says His Word and the Holy Spirit are our teachers, not the original languages (John 5:39-40; 8:47; 14:26; 16:13-14, 2 Timothy 2:15; 3:15-17, etc.).
Now are we beginning to see just how important the divine promise recorded in Psalms 12:6-7 is?
Recently someone sent me a post that pretended to prove that the King James Bible is not God’s exclusive Word for the English speaking peoples. The first sentence gave away their erroneous position. The writer was saying that only the original manuscripts were inspired which is an unmitigated lie that denies that God kept His Word, His promise to preserve His Word to us – which transcends language (Psalms 12:6-7) This is what we call Bible agnosticism – where some people believe that God exists and yet is not active in the affairs of men, and has basically forsaken His creation. They claim He lied by not preserving His Word to us in our language as He specifically promised to do (Psalms 12:6-7). Ridiculous.
Not only is this ridiculous, it makes a fool of those who say it because they don’t read or speak even one of those three languages!
Sherry Todd writes:
“The King James Bible is the very Word of God. You can reject it if you choose. I’m not going to. Didn’t turn out too well for king Saul did it? Rejecting the Word of the Lord brings dire consequences. No thanks. So you claim that the original texts are perfect but not our Bible in English? Do you realize that you are saying that God decided that none of us today should have the incorruptible Word? Instead He gave us partial truths and is hiding His Word from us? Not. And you came to this conclusion how? You had to reject many verses to come to that conclusion including the direct promise of God in Psalms 12:6-7 to preserve His Word to all generations – that includes us! ‘God is not a man, that he should lie.’ (Numbers 23:19)”
Those who claim they can’t understand the Bible in English and then turn around and say you have to learn 2 other new and dead languages (Hebrew and Greek) to understand God’s Word, are quite confused to say the least…. think about that.
Here is my recent reply to someone who put forth the “original languages” argument:
“Do YOU speak and write Hebrew and Greek? If not then by your own definition your ‘god’ left you without his word.”
To a man who touted that he’s been studying the original languages for years, my response was:
“I have studied Greek and Hebrew for over 4 decades but there’s no need. God gave us His Word in our language just as He promised to do in Psalms 12:6-7. We both know that you do not write and speak Hebrew and Greek. Do you see what you are saying and doing here by misleading people to believe the lie that they have to know the original languages to understand God’s Word? Those are both dead languages by the way…..And you are lying on God. Psalms 12:6-7” God’s Word is Inspired and Preserved
But saying you need to know Hebrew and Greek is laughable and calls God a liar Psalms 12:6-7…. Do we have God’s Word in our language? Yes. People are running around saying you have to go back to the originals (which don’t exist) or learn Hebrew and Greek are great deceivers who destroy the trust God wants us to have in His Word-that He preserved for us in our language just like He promised. Those who say you have to know the original languages don’t read or write a lick of Greek or Hebrew themselves.
You see, that’s the underlying truth here, the issue. Satan’s agents corrupted a few manuscripts and those are in the control of the Vatican and from which all the new version “bibles” come from… it’s worldwide deception just as Jesus and His apostles warned us.
This lie that you have to know the original languages is many times perpetrated by those who want people to look to them and not God. They are casting doubt on God’s Word and destroying the faith in God’s Word in weak, young believers. It’s very Catholic to keep the Word from the people!
The same lying hypocrites who regurgitate the lie that you have to understand the 3 original languages the Bible was originally written in don’t even know those languages themselves. Ask them if they personally speak Hebrew, Greek, and Aramaic. The answer is a resounding NO. These are Satan’s agents who get weak people to believe they don’t have God’s Word and so won’t read God’s Word (KJB).
I have no idea how any person could have the slightest respect for Satan’s corruptions of Word of the God they claim to serve. THINK OF THE SPIRITUAL BETRAYAL/ADULTERY! If someone attacked your husband/wife and you STILL endorsed that attacker, HOW WOULD YOUR HUSBAND/WIFE FEEL ABOUT THAT? SMH
MARK THIS: ALL who cast doubt on God’s Word are of Satan – who is undeniably the one who began this doubt-casting when in the Garden he asked the woman “Hath God said…?” (Genesis 3:1).
“Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden? … And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall NOT surely die:” Genesis 3:1, 4
God’s Word records the fact that Satan added the word “not” to what God had said in Genesis 2:17: “But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.” (This is the first time “once saved always saved”/”eternal security” was taught-by Satan)
Satan is the original doubt caster to deceive and destroy. In the Garden he cast doubt on what God had said then added one 3-letter word to God’s Word which led to the fall of mankind into sin (Genesis 3:1, 4). Any person today who is casting doubt on whether we actually have God’s Word preserved to us is doing the work of and is a child of Satan.
Those who lie are the children of the one Jesus says is the father of all lies. No liar shall enter glory but rather shall be cast alive into the lake of fire! (John 8:44; Revelation 21:8)
A worn-out lame excuse we hear from some who are deceived is “Well, you have to go back to the original languages to know God’s truth.” In other words they are openly casting doubt upon and denying that we have God’s Word – that the LORD kept His promise to preserve His Word to us in our own language (Psalms 12:6-7). Hmmmmm. Question to such devils: “Do YOU speak and read in Hebrew and Greek? No! So, by your own definition, you can’t know God’s Word. But you are utterly deceived by your own darkened, evil heart. You are calling God a liar – saying He didn’t keep His promise to preserve His Word to all generations. Repent sinner.”
Most modern “preachers” use Satan’s “bibles” instead of the King James Bible and YET WE WONDER why the modern church world is completely apostate?
The prophesied Great Falling Away has come on the wings of Satan’s false “bibles.”
Did the LORD Drop the Ball?
Those who question that we have God’s Word today IN OUR OWN LANGUAGE by saying that you have to go back to the original languages are full blown agents of the father of lies, the archenemy of God and all souls.
To say that today’s English speaking Christians have to go back to the original autographs (which do not exist and which we do not need), these evil workers are saying we really don’t have God’s Word. They are saying God blatantly lied to us by promising to preserve His Word and then not doing so!
“The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. 7 Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.” Psalms 12:6-7
Arrogant Bible Correctors Rebuked | Bible Agnostics Exposed |God’s Word is Inspired and Preserved | Bible Versions Issue
Referring here and there to Hebrew and Greek is one thing: trying to use it to contradict the preserved Word of God for the English speaking peoples, is yet another thing and this is usually done because the antichrist doing it doesn’t want the plain truth rendered in his own language. Repentance needed.
“For we are not as MANY, which corrupt (adulterate) the word of God: but as of sincerity, but as of God, in the sight of God speak we in Christ.” 2 Corinthians 2:17
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“All Bibles are rewritten!”
REPLY:
That’s the devils’ statement, you know, the one who first changed and questioned God’s Word (Genesis 2:17; 3:1, 4). Explain that if you actually have facts instead of just parroting liars. Discrediting or questioning God’s Word reveals that you are a child of the one who did such in the Garden (Genesis 3). What’s behind the “All Bibles are rewritten!” statement? Here it is: When you hear this claim it’s being made by someone who has no facts, is just regurgitating Satan’s lie, and does not want to be accountable to God and so they deny we have His Word. Pure rebellion.
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“No matter what version, King Jesus is the One we are to preach.”
REPLY:
No one is even hinting that anyone other than KING Jesus is the central Theme of all of Scripture and the only One to be preached (1 Corinthians 2:2; Galatians 6:14). Without apology, I bring this important topic to the surface and will continue to do so – because the Word of God is the tangible medium that King Jesus ordained to reveal Himself (Lk 24:44; Jn 5:39, etc.). Personally, I will not participate or agree that this is anything but an essential topic with the highest, most severe eternal judgment attached to any man who dare add to or take away from the words of God (Revelation 22:18-19).
Perhaps the most severe warning of Scripture specifically addresses the sinful rebellion of changing God’s Word. Rev 22:17-18. Perhaps you should be crying out to the LORD to instill His holy fear deep in your heart. 
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“I agree it is the best English translation; nevertheless the Bible was written in Greek, Hebrew, and Aramaic. That is God’s Word, everything else is man’s attempt to dictate that Word in their own tongue. To suggest that the Bible was ratified in the English language is a kind of supremacy cult.”
REPLY:
Aren’t you generous to say that the KJB is the best English translation 😉 It’s not only the best it is God’s Bible for the English speaking people. You are misled and perhaps innocently. God promised to preserve His Word and He did into our language (Ps 12:6-7). Saying that God, the Almighty, was not able to fully bring His words into our language is an indictment on the Almighty. You are saying His power is diminished and that He doesn’t care about this generation and are calling God a liar to say that His Word is less in English than it was in the other languages and you have no proof of such – and seem to be acting as if your puny opinion is authoritative. You are a “Bible Agnostic” at this point. Bible Agnostics Exposed
KNOWING Hebrew and Greek is NOT the most reliable way to understand God’s Word. In fact, you don’t even need it. And, those running around saying you have to know Hebrew and Greek to understand the Word, can’t speak or write in Hebrew or Greek. Laughable. The Bible tells us how to understand the Bible!
Jesus told us that the divine Person of the Holy Spirit is our Teacher – not the Greek or Hebrew (original languages) (John 14:26; 16:13-14; 1 John 2:20, 27, etc.). Yes it’s good to look at the Hebrew and Greek here and there but His Word in our language, which He preserved (Psalms 12:6-7) and Himself are more than able to teach us. In fact, the very best way to learn is actually a system He put in His Word – line upon line learning – stacking precept upon precept (Isaiah 28:10, 13; 1 Corinthians 2:13). Thoroughly studying a topic by searching and stacking (collating) Scripture upon Scripture which speaks of that subject you are peering into, is the ultimate method to apprehend the mind of Christ on any topic … Not the original languages.
QUESTION:
“What about the Geneva Bible?
REPLY:
I am exposing the new version “bibles” which all came from the corrupted lineage of manuscripts and not the Textus Receptus which the Geneva and KJB come from.
The Geneva Bible is one of the most historically significant translations of the Bible into English, preceding the King James Version by 51 years. It was the …
Complete Bible published: 1560 Religious affiliation: Protestant
NT published: 1557 Textual basis: Textus Receptus
Textus Receptus (Latin: “received text“) is the name retroactively given to the succession of printed Greek language texts of the New Testament which constituted the textual base for the original German Luther Bible, for the translation of the New Testament into English by William Tyndale (1526), Myles Coverdale’s Bible (1535), Matthew’s Bible (1537), The Great Bible (1539), The Geneva Bible (1557 – 60), The Bishops’ Bible (1568), and the King James Version (1611), and for most other Reformation-era New Testament translations throughout Western and Central Europe such as the Spanish Reina-Valera translation and the Czech Bible of Kralice. The Textus Receptus has been translated into hundreds of languages. (See Also The Word of God for All Nations) The origin of the term “Textus Receptus” comes from the publisher’s preface to the 1633 edition produced by Abraham Elzevir and his nephew Bonaventure who were printers at Leiden:
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- Textum ergo habes, nunc ab omnibus receptum: in quo nihil immutatum aut corruptum damus. Translated “so you hold the text, now received by all, in which nothing corrupt.”
The two words, “textum” and “receptum“, were modified from the accusative to the nominative case to render textus receptus. Over time, this term has been retroactively applied to Erasmus’ editions, as his work served as the basis of others that followed. Many supporters of the Textus Receptus will name any manuscript which agrees with the Textus Receptus Greek as a “Textus Receptus” type manuscript. This type of association can also apply to early church quotations and language versions.
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Apostasy
“The Certainty of the Words of Truth” [podcast]
Nicholas, the Apostate Deceiver
Historians say that Nicholas (Acts 6:5), a deacon in the first century church, backslid, and led his followers to believe that living in sin would not affect one’s relationship with Christ. The term Nicolaitans is said to come from those who followed Nicholas. Nico-laitans is a compound Greek word. Nico means “to conquer,” and laitans means “the laity.” Satan used Nicholas to conquer his followers through the lie of lawlessness. The evil spirit of Nicholas lives on today through many lawless leaders who operate in the church world in this late hour.
Nicholas taught free love. He and his followers taught that the deeds of believers could not affect their relationship with God. This is antinomianism, which means lawlessness. The Bible clearly refutes such a lie as we will witness in our walk through the Holy Scriptures.
“Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.” 2 Timothy 2:19
“They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.” Titus 1:16
The Bible states here, that those who “profess that they know God” and yet “deny him…in works,” are “abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.”
By this lie of lawlessness, the enemy of souls conquered the people.
“But this thou hast, that thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitans (means “conquer the laity”), which I also hate…So hast thou also them that hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitans, which thing I hate.” Revelation 2:6, 15
Here is some modern terminology for this age-old doctrine:
- Once Saved, Always Saved
- Eternal security (unconditional)
- Calvinism, perseverance of the saints doctrine
In Revelation 2, Jesus Christ tells us that He “hates” two things — “the deeds” and “doctrine of the Nicolaitans.” The Son of God despises the doctrine that teaches that the deeds of men have no effect upon their relationship with Him.
The Scriptures continuously reveal the divine hatred for the acceptance, and even doctrinal authorization, for living in the sins which the LORD tells us violate His holiness, reveal a wicked heart, and will prevent one from entering into the kingdom of God (1 Corinthians 6:9-10; Galatians 5:19-21; Revelation 21:8, 27).
The word “lasciviousness” appears six times in the Bible and means “lack of restraint (from sinning); license for sin; licentiousness.”
To underscore the utter, divine hatred against this lie of lawlessness, it should be noted that this is the only place in Scripture where Jesus Christ, Himself, states that He hates something.
Though they may vary in packaging, these are all kin to the same lawless “ye shall not surely die” lie, which is the lie of the ages.
“Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the Lord your God which I command you.” Deuteronomy 4:2
“For ye have perverted the words of the living God, of the Lord of hosts our God.” Jeremiah 23:36b
“Thus saith the Lord; Stand in the court of the Lord’s house, and speak unto all the cities of Judah, which come to worship in the Lord’s house, all the words that I command thee to speak unto them; diminish not a word.” Jeremiah 26:2
“For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: 19 and if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.” Revelation 22:18-19
“Hath God said” ?
Always remember that whenever you have someone casting doubt on God’s Word, words, you are dealing with a person who is under Satan’s control, is a rejecter of the LORD, and therefore His truth, and is a child of the devil. Every time.
Notice what we see Satan doing in the Garden of Eden just before he changed, altered, added one word to God’s words:
“Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?” Genesis 3:1
Then, in verse 4 we read how Satan added just one three-letter word which changed the meaning of what God said and changed world history.
“And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:” Genesis 3:4
“But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.” Genesis 2:17
“Thou shalt surely die” from God was then changed by Satan to “Ye shall NOT surely die.”
This is the first time we see what’s known as the “eternal security” lie. It’s also known as “once saved always saved” or “perseverance of the saints” heresy. Any person teaching or believeing this lie has partnered with Satan himself.
Knowing “the certainty of the words of truth”
“Bow down thine ear, and hear the words of the wise, and apply thine heart unto my knowledge.
18 For it is a pleasant thing if thou keep them within thee; they shall withal be fitted in thy lips.
19 That thy trust may be in the Lord, I have made known to thee this day, even to thee.
20 Have not I written to thee excellent things in counsels and knowledge,
21 that I might make thee know the certainty of the words of truth; that thou mightest answer the words of truth to them that send unto thee? Proverbs 22:17-21
“that I might make thee know the certainty of the words of truth” – and how can we “know the certainty of the words of truth” if we aren’t even reading them – if we are not reading the preserved Word of God but rather a cheap counterfeit?
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Apostasy
8 Classes of Sinners Guaranteed to Spend Eternity in the Lake of Fire [podcast]
8 Classes of Sinners Guaranteed to Spend Eternity in Hell
“But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.” Revelation 21:8
“The second death”
[which is the second death] The second death is the lake of fire, or the second separation from God in hell (Rev_2:11; Rev_20:14; Rev_21:8).
Of Revelation 21:8, Adam Clarke writes the following:
Revelation 21:8
But the fearful – Δειλοις· Those who, for fear of losing life or their property, either refused to receive the Christian religion, though convinced of its truth and importance; or, having received it, in times of persecution fell away, not being willing to risk their lives.
And unbelieving – Those who resist against full evidence. And sinners, και ἁμαρτωλοις, is added here by about thirty excellent MSS., and is found in the Syrian, Arabic, some of the Slavonic, and in Andreas and Arethas. On this evidence Griesbach has admitted it into the text.
The abominable – Εβδελυγμενοις· Those who are polluted with unnatural lust. (sodomites, lesbians Romans 1)
And murderers – Φονευσι· Those who take away the life of man for any cause but the murder of another, and those who hate a brother in their heart (.
And whoremongers – Πορνοις· Adulterers, fornicators, whores, prostitutes, and rakes of every description.
Sorcerers – Φαρμακοις· Persons who, by drugs, philtres, fumigations, etc., pretend to produce supernatural effects, chiefly by spiritual agency.
Idolaters – Ειδωλολατραις· Those who offer any kind of worship or religious reverence to any thing but God. All image worshippers are idolaters in every sense of the word.
And all liars – Και πασι τοις ψευδεσι· Every one who speaks contrary to the truth when he knows the truth, and even he who speaks the truth with the intention to deceive; i.e., to persuade a person that a thing is different from what it really is, by telling only a part of the truth, or suppressing some circumstance which would have led the hearer to a different end to the true conclusion. All these shall have their portion, το μερος, their share, what belongs to them, their right, in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone. This is the second death, from which there is no recovery.
“21:8 But not all are overcomers. Some are cowardly, afraid to confess Christ; unbelieving, unwilling to trust the sinner’s Savior; sinners, all those who remain in their sins, whether guilty of the gross iniquities listed here or not; abominable, given over to disgusting immorality; murderers, malicious and savage killers; sexually immoral, practicing fornication and other forms of sexual sins; sorcerers, those who traffic with evil spirits; idolaters, insulting God by worshiping images; and all liars, compulsive deceivers. These will be assigned to the lake of fire as their final destiny.” Believer’s Bible Commentary
“And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. … 14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. 15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.” Revelation 20:10, 14-15
One source notes the following:
“Brimstone and fire” refers to the fiery imagery of divine judgment and eternal punishment found in the Bible. It symbolizes God’s wrath, often describing the fate of sinners in hell, and is a phrase used in religious sermons and literature. “Brimstone,” an old word for sulfur, is a key component of this imagery, evoking a smell and heat associated with inescapable, fiery destruction.
Biblical origins
Old Testament:
The phrase originates in the King James translation of the Old Testament, used to describe God’s destruction of enemies. A key example is the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah.
New Testament:
The imagery is used to describe eternal damnation, a common theme in both the Old and New Testaments. In the book of Revelation, for example, it describes those who worship the beast being tormented in a lake of fire and brimstone.
Etymology:
The phrase is a calque of the Biblical Hebrew and Ancient Greek words for “sulfur and fire”.
Geological evidence:
Archaeological and geological evidence of sulfur deposits and charred formations in areas like the Dead Sea region have been noted as consistent with biblical descriptions of fire and sulfur-related events.”
“But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.” Matthew 8:12
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Articles
The Purpose of Elders in Christ’s Body [podcast]
There is no more important work transpiring in the earth today than the work of the Gospel of Jesus Christ (Matthew 9:35-38; 28:18-20; Ephesians 4:11-15; 1 Peter 5:1-6, etc.).
“Now the God of peace, that brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, that great shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the everlasting covenant, 21 Make you perfect in every good work to do his will, working in you that which is wellpleasing in his sight, through Jesus Christ; to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.” Hebrews 13:20-21
In short, the authentic under-shepherd ordained of Jesus Himself (John 15:16), will give up his life in this fleeting world for the sheep of Christ – just as the Great Shepherd of the sheep did on the cross. Such a divinely called-out man, will teach only God’s pure Word and watch for the souls of the LORD’s people (Hebrews 13:7, 17). He will take up the cross – live the crucified life – and therefore ministry will not be about them but rather about Jesus and His beloved sheep for whom He shed His blood and is soon returning (Philippians 3:17-21).
Also in Hebrews 13 …. The true elder of Christ will, according to Hebrews 13, do two things:
- Speak the pure Word of God to you and get you into it:
“Remember them which have the rule over you, who have spoken unto you the word of God: whose faith follow, considering the end of their conversation (their way of life).” Hebrews 13:7
2. Will in the fear of God pray for and “watch for your soul.”
“Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.” Hebrews 13:17
In review, just WHAT are the earmark fruits of true under-shepherds as opposed to the many wolves among us?
- True under shepherds relentlessly teach God’s Word – “who have spoken unto you the word of God.” (Hebrews 13:7)
- They are there for you! – “they watch for your souls.” (Hebrews 13:7)
IF they aren’t preaching God’s pure Word to you, fearing God, not you…. and watching for your eternal soul, they are wolves in sheep’s clothing. Repent and run to Jesus beloved.
Let me add that if they are using a fake “bible” instead of the King James Bible, that should be a clue to the darkness they walk in (Matthew 7:16, 20).
Elders are ordained of God and yet never to take His place nor to negate our own personal responsibility to seek God daily for ourselves. Yet, we do not need a preacher. Why? – because we each have a Bible. Read it. We don’t need a preacher to tell us what the Bible says! Read it for yourself, learning of the LORD yourself. Today is your day to take personal responsibility to seek God for yourself! Stop depending on a preacher or preachers. Devour God’s Word daily. Jesus taught personal responsibility and the essential nature of it when He said “Take heed to yourselves” (Luke 21:34-36) …… Paul instructed Timothy to “Study” the Word (2 Timothy 2:15).
Today we have all around us church-goers who are not possessed with a heart after God, do not diligently study and read and live out Christ’s Word. This lukewarm, world-loving fruit clearly reveals the prophesied priesthood of wolves (1 Chronicles 16:11; Psalms 27:4, 8; Matthew 24:11; Acts 13:22; 2 Timothy 3:13; 1 John 4:1, etc.). Until a pastor has provoke you to get into God’s Word for yourself, to seeking His holy face daily in prayer, he has failed. If has has diligently, biblically sought to do these essentials, and people have refused God’s Word, refused to seek His holy face continually, the blood is off of his hands (Ezekiel 3:18-20).
“When I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; and thou givest him not warning, nor speakest to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life; the same wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand. 19 Yet if thou warn the wicked, and he turn not from his wickedness, nor from his wicked way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul. 20 Again, When a righteous man doth turn from his righteousness, and commit iniquity, and I lay a stumblingblock before him, he shall die: because thou hast not given him warning, he shall die in his sin, and his righteousness which he hath done shall not be remembered; but his blood will I require at thine hand.” Ezekiel 3:18-20
When you check the fruit of a fellowship, check, discern if the individual saints are vibrant in Christ, diligently seeking His holy face, in His Word, living a life of prayer, denying self, taking up the cross daily, and following Jesus. This sounds like what we see of the earliest saints in the book of Acts, right? Boom. Remember how Peter preached and 8,000 were saved and how the Berean believers put Paul’s teaching to the Scriptural test? (Acts 2-4; 17:10-11, etc.).
Sadly, usually you see a bunch of people who are proud to be a member of a church with none of the biblical fruit list above.
The apostle Paul kept a close watch on those he oversaw.
“For this cause, when I could no longer forbear, I sent to know your faith, lest by some means the tempter have tempted you, and our labour be in vain.” 1 Thessalonians 3:5
Having a physical “church” building makes no mere man, no supposed elder, an official representative of Heaven. Feeding the sheep of Christ with His pure Word and equipping them “for the work of the ministry” is the mark of a true under-shepherd of Christ (John 21:15-17; Ephesians 4:11-12, etc.). Discern. Beware. Inspect the fruit. Jesus nor any of His holy apostles collected a penny to build a building called “church.” No, they went to the people – to serve them instead of having the people come to them.
Let’s test that…. How many people do you personally know who are good church members, Sunday morning church attenders, and ALSO true, daily disciples whom God is using everywhere they go? Think about that…. How many true disciples of Jesus do you know who are involved in a Sunday morning church program? If you personally know even one true disciple, that’s a miracle and in spite of his attendance at the Sunday morning circus called “church.”
Unlike Christ’s apostle Paul, most in leadership today foster in their prey a dependence on THEM and their church business instead of prayerfully, biblically exhorting people to depend on Jesus (1 Corinthians 1:29-2:5).
Like Christ’s apostle Paul, the true elder labors relentlessly to see you grounded in Christ – not in him or his ministry or church, but in CHRIST! Listen closely:
“As ye have therefore received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk ye in him: 7 Rooted and built up in him, and stablished in the faith, as ye have been taught, abounding therein with thanksgiving.” Colossians 2:6-7
It simply doesn’t matter what else he’s doing, if any minister is not prayerfully, biblically, perpetually rooting and grounding you in Christ, he’s a fraud. Run.
Like Jesus and His holy apostle Paul, part of grounding you ever more deeper in Christ, is warning you to “beware” of the “many false prophets.” (Matthew 24:11)
“Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. 9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. 10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:” Colossians 2:8-10
SO, he’s not exhorting and admonishing you to seek and know the LORD in an ever deepening fashion? He’s not equipping, maturing you “for the work of the ministry” and yet you still consider him one of the LORD’s under-shepherds? He’s not getting YOU into the Word (2 Timothy 2:15) for yourself? That’s a false leader who is entertaining the goats instead of feeding and equipping the saints! Run! (See Ephesians 4:11-15; 1 Peter 5:1-6, etc.)
False leaders divert the attention, the heart affections, the resources, and the energy of God’s people away from Christ and simple obedience to His Great Commission mandate. YOU are personally responsible! Waste is rampant! If you support, “bid God speed” (2 John 7-11) to a false leader, false ministry, then you will perish with them!
The divine purpose for elders is not to dominate nor entertain the LORD’s sheep but rather to help their joy in Christ! Get to know this verse saints:
“Not for that we have dominion over your faith, but are helpers of your joy: for by faith ye stand.” 2 Corinthians 1:24
There is the citing of elders in the Word and their divine purpose – to humbly serve God by helping His sheep grow in the knowledge and grace of Christ (Ephesians 4:11-15; 1 Peter 5:1-6).
Christ’s apostle Paul desired the “perfection” (maturity in Christ) of the people of God (Ephesians 4:11-15).
“For we are glad, when we are weak, and ye are strong: and this also we wish, even your perfection.” 2 Corinthians 13:9
Like Apollos, Elders among God’s people must remain teachable to God’s Word and simply and only teach and preach his word (Proverbs 9:9; Acts 18:26). Elders true to the LORD act on his behalf and never out of a personal agenda for self gain (2 Corinthians 3:5; 4:5, etc.). They live the crucified life (Galatians 2:20).
We are to humble ourselves like Apollos did and learn the way of our God more perfectly from each other, via God’s Word – as Apollos learned it more fully from Aquila and Priscilla (Acts 18:24-28).
Beloved Apollos was a very effective, anointed communicator of God’s Word and yet, was in need of maturing, of being perfected. So, God sent to him an elder and his wife, Aquila and Priscilla. Apollos humbly received the LORD’s elders and His grace to grow in Christ:
“And a certain Jew named Apollos, born at Alexandria, an eloquent man, and mighty in the scriptures, came to Ephesus. 25 This man was instructed in the way of the Lord; and being fervent in the spirit, he spake and taught diligently the things of the Lord, knowing only the baptism of John. 26 And he began to speak boldly in the synagogue: whom when Aquila and Priscilla had heard, they took him unto them, and expounded unto him the way of God more perfectly.” Acts 18:24-26
The vast majority of “churches” that meet in “church buildings” are simply and merely conducting “church services” where they entertain their prey. They are not equipping the saints for the work of the ministry and therefore discerned as being counterfeit (Ephesians 4:11-13). If they were, there would be salty disciples in their midst who go forth to minister Christ’s kingdom blessings wherever they go. Not even a trace of this transpiring in the apostate modern church world. Run. Run. Run.
The Purpose of Kingdom Elders:
“And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; 12 For the perfecting (equipping, maturing) of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:” Ephesians 4:11-12
Philip Lye writes: “Paul says in Ephesians 4, that he gave some to be apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors and teachers. He expressly says these people are given to mature the saints, to equip them for their ministry and growth in Jesus Christ. Jesus tells us in Matthew 24 that many false prophets and messiahs will arise deceiving many. They are simply functions that God has given and not titles which the proud use to strut about like a peacock. Most of these people that I have met (and I have seen a lot of famous ones) are false, proud and arrogant and not servants of the the Lord Jesus Christ. I have seen humble genuine ones who move mightily in truth, calling people to repentance and right relationship with Jesus and a demonstration of genuine miracles and wonders. They are to be genuine servants to God’s people.”
VIEW this following verse from Solomon’s day in light of our calling and work till Christ returns:
“Now all the work of Solomon was prepared unto the day of the foundation of the house of the LORD, and until it was finished. So the house of the LORD was perfected.” 2 Chronicles 8:16
Let’s read a larger portion of this important passage in Ephesians 4. God fearing under-shepherds must prayerfully labor for and be intent upon seeing God’s people grow in the grace of Christ to the full stature of maturity He has ordained!
“And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; 12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: 13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ: 14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive; 15 But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:” Ephesians 4:11-15
The Error of Using Titles in the Modern Church World
God sovereignly and exclusively ordained MEN to feed, lead, and equip His saints (Ephesians 4:8-11). Women are called to and seen doing many ministry functions in the New Testament but never as a leader in a position specifically designated in Scripture for men.
Repent. The American “church” is a catastrophe of spineless moral-coward Ahabs who’ve allowed, suffered women to lead, and the fall out is incalculable (Revelation 2:20-24).
GOD’s men must never allow women to lead where they (men) are called to lead (1 Timothy 2:12; 3:2; Revelation 2:20-24).
To put yourself under the ministry of a woman who is acting as an elder among God’s people, is to defy Christ, and to agree with Christ’s arch enemy and his Jezebels and to bring severe destruction on the people of God (1 Timothy 2:12; 3:2; Revelation 2:20-24).
JUST because a woman can run her mouth and even genuinely have a gift of the Spirit DOES NOT mean she’s an elder in the body of Christ – which is divinely reserved non-negotiably for men, male elders (1 Timothy 2:11-12; 3:2). | Beware of Scripture-Twisting Jezebels
We must humbly confess before our LORD and God that we have nothing and are nothing without Him!
“I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.” John 15:5
God can use us in spite of having a seminary or Bible college background…. If we will truly denounce it, lay it all down, and truly submit to Him – just like Paul did (Philippians 3). Otherwise we will join the epidemic of false prophets who build their own kingdoms in this fleeting life and spend eternity in hell (2 Peter 2:1-3). Paul counted his “higher education” as “dung” to know and serve Christ (Philippians 3).
BIBLICALLY SPEAKING, BY DEFINITION, ELDERS ARE NOT SEMINARIANS (UNLESS THEY’VE DENOUNCED SUCH) BUT RATHER PROVEN MEN OF GOD WHO HAVE WALKED WITH CHRIST FOR SOME TIME AND ARE SEASONED IN DOCTRINE AND GODLY CHARACTER AND ABLE TO HELP ASSIST OTHER BELIEVERS GROW IN GRACE (Philippians 3).
In part, we can be transformed in our thinking/perspective of what leaders are seen to be in the apostate modern church vs the biblical definition of an elder which is a humble servant with sound doctrine and a godly life (1 Timothy 3; 2 Timothy 3:10; Titus 1-2, etc.).
Christ’s kingdom ordination is not like the ordinations of many denominations….. To ordain seems to mean to recognize the work of GOD in a man’s life and to set him forth into ministry as by the leading of the Spirit of God.
“Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.” John 15:16
ORDAIN
G5087
τίθημι
tithēmi
tith’-ay-mee
A prolonged form of a primary word θέω theō (which is used only as an alternate in certain tenses); to place (in the widest application, literally and figuratively; properly in a passive or horizontal posture, and thus different from G2476, which properly denotes an upright and active position, while G2749 is properly reflexive and utterly prostrate): – + advise, appoint, bow, commit, conceive, give, X kneel down, lay (aside, down, up), make, ordain, purpose, put, set (forth), settle, sink down.
Total KJV occurrences: 96
“Now there were in the church that was at Antioch certain prophets and teachers; as Barnabas, and Simeon that was called Niger, and Lucius of Cyrene, and Manaen, which had been brought up with Herod the tetrarch, and Saul. 2 As they ministered to the Lord, and fasted, the Holy Ghost said, Separate me Barnabas and Saul for the work whereunto I have called them. 3 And when they had fasted and prayed, and laid their hands on them, they sent them away.” Acts 13:1-3
Denominations of mere men set their elders forth to do THEIR bidding, to perpetuate their own cause and existence, to build their false church businesse$. God fearing assemblies of the saints simply recognize Christ’s work in a man and prayerfully send him forth to do GOD’s work. They worship and exalt Christ whole heartedly!
MINISTRY is about feeding sheep, not entertaining goats (John 21:15-17). So, when you see a “minister” entertaining, you know he himself is a goat (1 Corinthians 1:29-2:5).
What True Elders Teach
“For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord; and ourselves your servants for Jesus’ sake.” 2 Corinthians 4:5
THERE is nothing good in us except Christ. We are not featured but JESUS is. “We preach CHRIST crucified” (1 Cor 1:23). All our righteousnesses are as filthy rags and HE is the One and only righteous Redeemer whom we communicate to others (1 Cor 9:16; Rom 7:18 etc.).
Jesus’ true disciples are crucified vessels who preach with His authority, unlike the lame leaders we have today (Matthew 7:28-29). True Gospel preaching rocks the world of those who hear it – it never coddles people in their sin. That’s the work of wolves! Beware!
Godly Elders Teach God’s People to Discern
“And they shall teach my people the difference between the holy and profane, and cause them to discern between the unclean and the clean.” Ezekiel 44:23
Why don’t some leaders teach discernment?
“Anyone that profits off of you being blind, will never teach you or inspire you to see.” unknown
Any man in leadership who doesn’t warn you of false prophets as did Christ and His apostles, is a wolf who does not want you to see who he truly is.
God’s people are to continue to learn to discern – to test, to weigh all things against Holy Scripture. Ungodly elders have the “I said it so it’s true” notion. Or the “We’ve always taught that” or “That’s what we believe” philosophy. Not. What saith the Scriptures is what every true follower of Jesus asks, as he searches God’s Word to ascertain truth. Every student of Christ should become extremely familiar with Acts 17:10-11.
QUESTION RECEIVED:
“I am curious as to how one man is considered the other’s elder? Do they attend the same church gathering thus, he is a church elder or is it through willful submission of the younger as an understudy or simply due to the fact that one man is older?”
REPLY:
Great question brother. Elder, biblically seems to mean older and more seasoned in God’s Word, having walked with the LORD longer. Two views come to mind: 1. The organic body of Christ, the kingdom relationships we have, where there appear men in our lives who are seasoned and there’s an automatic elder/young relationship (that’s how it is here)… and 2. Where a person attends a church group and they have their elder in a more organized fashion as you mentioned…. that help?
Nothing brings definition to this like God’s Word as you know…. and notice how it begins with “The elders which are AMONG you”….
“The elders which are among you I exhort, who am also an elder, and a witness of the sufferings of Christ, and also a partaker of the glory that shall be revealed: 2 Feed the flock of God which is among you, taking the oversight thereof, not by constraint, but willingly; not for filthy lucre, but of a ready mind; 3 Neither as being lords over God’s heritage, but being ensamples to the flock. 4 And when the chief Shepherd shall appear, ye shall receive a crown of glory that fadeth not away. 5 Likewise, ye younger, submit yourselves unto the elder. Yea, all of you be subject one to another, and be clothed with humility: for God resisteth the proud, and giveth grace to the humble. 6 Humble yourselves therefore under the mighty hand of God, that he may exalt you in due time:” 1 Peter 5:1-6
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