Do God’s People Need to Know the Original Languages to understand His Word? [podcast]
There are people going around saying we don’t have God’s Word today in our own language and therefore must learn Hebrew and Greek to truly understand it. Is this true? No.
SO, let me get this straight ….. GOD Almighty can’t cause His own people to understand HIS Word to them in their own language? If that were the case, why did He tell us that He was going to preserve His Word to us? (Psalms 12:6-7) This is a serious indictment upon the Almighty by deceived and darkened self-centered sinful souls who want you to believe they really know Hebrew and Greek, two dead languages. Ask them to read and also write a paragraph for you in those languages with NO help from google. Dead silence. They are caught in their own deception and need to repent. These counterfeits go around pretending to be superior in Bible knowledge. Frauds.
If you can’t read and speak Hebrew and Greek, by your own erroneous definition, you can’t know God or understand His Word – that He gave us in our own language as He promised to do (Psalms 12:6-7). Do you realize who convoluted and deranged that sounds? So by your own definition, you have no hope of understanding the message, the Word of your Maker. Wow.
Saying we can’t understand the Word of God unless we know the original languages is pure fiction perpetrated by those who seek to elevate themselves above others which is the soul-damning sin of “emulations.” (Galatians 5:19-21) They want everyone else to sit down and shut up and listen to them – because after all, only they can understand God and His Word, because they supposedly know the original languages.
Laughable lies about knowing the original languages. Beware of any person making the claim that you can’t understand God’s own Word in your own language unless you understand and can read Hebrew and Greek, the original languages from which the Bible was translated into English.
Flip their applecart in real time: Just ask them on the spot to speak Hebrew and Greek for you and watch their groundless lies and arrogance crumble instantly. Then ask them if they read or write in Hebrew and Greek. Their game is over. Works every time.
By their own standard, erroneous claim, THEM themselves do not understand God’s Word. They cannot speak or write in Hebrew or Greed which tells us them, which exposes them as false teacher who are bearing false witness against the LORD.
Jesus warns us of this very trick from Satan’s children. This is a classic deception, a diabolical maneuver to position oneself over others by pretending to possess esoteric, secret knowledge. Jesus spoke to this:
“Woe unto you, lawyers! for ye have taken away the key of knowledge: ye entered not in yourselves, and them that were entering in ye hindered.” Luke 11:52
“11:52 Finally the Lord Jesus denounced the lawyers for having taken away the key of knowledge, that is, for withholding God’s Word from the people. Though outwardly they professed loyalty to the Scriptures, yet they stubbornly refused to receive the One of whom the Scriptures spoke. And they hindered others from coming to Christ. They didn’t want Him themselves, and they didn’t want others to receive Him.” Believer’s Bible Commentary
Basically, taking away the key of knowledge is the act of telling people that they are “not privileged or intelligent enough to understand because they are uneducated and stupid. So you need us. We are the specialists. You must come to us and patronize us and our ministries.”
Arrogant seminarian delusion: “We know the Greek and Hebrew so you need us. You can’t possibly understand God through His own Word for yourself because you aren’t degreed as we are! We paid a lot of money to be superior to you peasants, you little people! Only we can understand the Bible. So come on Sundays and bring your money, and we will tell you what God says!”
As He promised to do, the LORD gave us His Word in our own language and gave us His Holy Spirit upon saving us (Psalms 12:6-7; John 16:13). To say we can’t understand His Word in our own native language, and therefore need sinful mere men to show us what He supposedly said, is delusional.
(Luke 11:52 – instead of living in the mind of Christ where we elevate others above ourselves (Philippians 2:3-5). The Nicolaitans come to mind (Nico-laitans = conquer the people via lies).
1. Greek, Aramaic, and/or Hebrew not needed to understand God’s Word in our own language KJB. Most of the very people who make this claim do not even read or write in those languages and so according to their own standard, THEY themselves cannot understand God’s Word. Next time you meet someone who makes this claim, ask them to speak a few sentences for them in Hebrew, Greek, and Aramaic. Oh and write a few sentences in those languages too. Watch the smile vanish from their face.
GOD preserved His Word for us in our own language. It’s not a sin to look at the Hebrew or Greek and yet, such is not needed. Get to know Psalms 12:6-7. We HAVE God’s Word “preserved” for us by Him in our own language – English – in the King James Bible. No Hebrew or Greek needed. Repent and get over yourself. If you claim to “know” these languages and yet can’t read Hebrew and Greek, if you can’t speak in Hebrew and Greek, cease your virtue signaling, hypocrite. By your own erroneous standard you are unable to understand God’s Word because you don’t read and write in the original languages. You are embarrassing yourself.
Isn’t this exactly what the pagan Roman Catholic church did as they refused to say their mass in English and instead kept it in Latin which the English speaking peoples didn’t understand? So they kept them in the dark. Also, speaking of keeping the people in the dark, did the Catholic church not fight against the Bible being translated into English so the common man could read and understand it? Correct. Historical fact. Many were murdered for working to get the Bible translated so that the common man have a copy and could understand and know God all by themselves. The Catholic church stood to lose control over the people if the Bible was made available to the common man. And ultimately they did to the glory of God. And it’s clear to see that the same satanic spirit possesses today’s frauds who claim you need THEM – because they supposedly know the original languages – in order to understand God and know Him. They don’t know Him! They are Satan’s agents. Beware.
Beware of those who attempt to take away the key of knowledge (understanding) from others – as they pretend to be superior to you due to supposed knowledge of the original languages (Luke 11:52). They are lying to you. This is exactly what Jesus warns us about and exactly what the cult of Rome did for centuries. They are of the same “spirit of antichrist” as the false prophets of Rome! (1 John 2:18; 4:1-4)
“Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path.” Psalms 119:105
“The Holy Ghost teacheth.” 1 Corinthians 2:13
God is all wise and had His Word preserved in our own language – nothing was lost (Psalms 12:6-7). That does mean looking up a Greek or Hebrew word is going to hurt anything. Yet the Bible instructions concerning properly “rightly dividing the word of truth” is to thoroughly study God’s Word in our own language, “precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line”, “comparing (collating, putting together) spiritual things with spiritual.” (2 Timothy 2:15; Isaiah 28:13; 1 Corinthians 2:13)
Jesus says that the Holy Ghost and the Word are our teachers, not the original languages (2 Tim 3:16-17; Ps 119:105; John 14:26; 16:13-14; 1 John 1:20-21, etc.).
Church history is mostly if not totally a waste of time to study and so is attempting to master the original languages the Bible was written in (Hebrew, Greek, Aramaic). There is no divine authority in church history or in learning the original languages. Selah. God preserved His Word to us in our own language as He promised – and this is so we didn’t have to learned another language to understand what He stated (Psalms 12:6-7). What a gracious KING we serve! Personally, I’m usually careful with those who have a pretended higher, superior view of Scripture based on their supposed knowledge of the original (now dead) languages. Such apparent pride alone reveals they haven’t learned much yet from their pretended knowledge of the original languages. Do we know all about the necessity of humility in the English? (See Matthew 18:3-4; 20:24-28; 23:8-12, etc..) I usually ask them if they speak or read or write in those original languages and usually the answer is silence. | Church History is a Waste
Make no mistake: It’s none other than the “spirit of antichrist” that is behind this unfounded, heretical notion that you have to learn the original languages to understand the Bible (1 John 4:1-3). Laughable. This is just another attempt of Satan to get people to not seek God, to make things seem difficult. Anyone parroting this lie of the devil is under the influence of Satan himself.
BEWARE of those who try to convince you with their Greek acrobatics that they are far superior in Bible knowledge than you are. It’s 100% a sham. Pull their rug!
I just shared with just such a man the following rebuke:
NOT impressed with your supposed handle on the Hebrew and Greek. Do you speak and write in Greek? I didn’t think so. Did God give us His Word in our own language? Yes He did. Psalms 12:6-7 King James Bible.
Saints, to infer that we need to know Hebrew and Greek to truly understand God’s Word is an indictment against the Almighty who preserved for us His Word in our own language. This is just another doubt casting “Hath God said” ploy, deception of Satan (Genesis 3:1).
“THE KEY OF KNOWLEDGE”
“Woe unto you, lawyers! for ye have taken away the key of knowledge: ye entered not in yourselves, and them that were entering in ye hindered.” Luke 11:52
Taking away the simple understanding of the Bible, of law, from the common man, is the work of Satan – the great manipulator, the changer of God’s Word (Genesis 2:17; 3:1, 4). Examples of taking “away the key of knowledge” would include how the roman catholic cult hid the truth from most of its adherents by keeping their pagan “mass” ceremony in Latin till the 1960’s because most of their captives didn’t speak or understand Latin. Another example of taking “away the key of knowledge” is the modern unlawful “legal” system and how they’ve doctored the law by changing the meaning of the words. They did such to take away the simple, self-evident understanding of words in order for the common man to understand.
“Can the blind lead the blind? shall they not both fall into the ditch?” Luke 6:39
Yet this key of knowledge is hidden from the people. Let’s read Jesus’ words again:
“Woe unto you, lawyers! for ye have taken away the key of knowledge: ye entered not in yourselves, and them that were entering in ye hindered.” Luke 11:52
Here Jesus is addressing evil doers who take away the ability for the average person or even child to understand God’s Word, His will. To take away the “key” is to disallow people from having access to the goods, the knowledge of God, the truth. Think about that. Ponder what our LORD is conveying here, the principle of it – and use this truth to discern the world around you. Is this not how people get “destroyed”?
“My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.” Hosea 4:6
Our lack of knowledge of how man’s government law works against us: Such would include not knowing the 5th Amendment to the Constitution.
“The Fifth Amendment creates a number of rights relevant to both criminal and civil legal proceedings. In criminal cases, the Fifth Amendment guarantees the right to a grand jury, forbids “double jeopardy,” and protects against self-incrimination.”
Notice “protects against self-incrimination.” So, this seems to convey that the individual is not accountable to give any information at all, including any information that could and will be used AGAINST him in a court of law. So, one must act wisely, know his rights, lest he be seduced by cops or any other to produce information that would and could incriminate him. It can be observed that policemen are well trained at seducing their prey out of their rights. This is done for the reason of getting information, many times, to use against the person whose right to silence is being violated or hidden. They want this key of knowledge, understanding to be taken from the common man as was and is the case of the “spirit of antichrist” which worked through the Roman cult and has poisoned all seminarians today.
God’s Word is Self and Holy Spirit Interpretive
God’s Word is easily understood by even children. It’s self-interpretive. He who died for all and loves all of mankind made sure of that. In fact it’s only the humble in heart, the true seekers whom He gives the knowledge of Himself to. Jesus says:
“At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes.” Matthew 11:25
Why would God have gone to such great lengths to see that we have His Word in our own language, if He knew we weren’t going to be able to understand it? See Psalms 12:6-7.
Do we realize the evil indictment this is against the LORD? Why would God hide His blessings from true seekers? He wouldn’t and the record of His Word itself and all the way through, make this plain, evident.
It is always SATAN himself behind the stumbling blocks, keeping God’s truth (which reveals the Great Savior) away from the common people.
“In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.” 2 Corinthians 4:4
In order to keep the Savior Christ from the people, His Word must be kept from them. Those without God’s Word are in darkness. They can have no “light,” no “understanding” without it.
“Light” and “understanding” replace darkness and lack of understanding by nothing else but the written Word of God (2 Timothy 3:15-17).
“The entrance of thy words giveth light; it giveth understanding unto the simple.” Psalms 119:130
Jesus informs us that He has come to give mankind “life … more abundantly” and that it’s Satan who has come “to steal, and to kill, and to destroy:” (John 10:10). History holds the record that it was none other than Satan’s Roman Catholic church that murdered millions who were instrumental in bringing the Word of God to the forefront, into manifestation for all people (William Tyndale, the Waldensians, etc.). See Foxe’s Book of Martyrs (the original version).
Anyone teaching the above heresy – that one must understand Greek and Hebrew to understand God and His Word – is putting a stumbling block in the way of others and is under divine condemnation. It is Satan and those under His control who don’t want you to know God’s Word. This is the same war against God and mankind that Satan waged from the Garden of Eden (Genesis 3:1, 4).
DECEPTION:
We often hear compromisers perhaps self-righteously say “But I use several versions.” Is that a good thing? No.
REPLY:
“How can we put an ounce of confidence, credibility, in that which is a corruption of what God stated? Is it not SATAN behind the casting doubt upon God’s Word and changing of it? See Genesis 2:17; 3:1, 4. Is God now ‘the author of confusion’? See 1 Corinthians 14:33. Does He need us to read His enemy’s versions of what HE stated to understand His will, etc.? Think about this.”
WHO Came to Take Away God’s Words?
Jesus says “Satan cometh immediately, and taketh away the word” (Mark 4:15).
The taking away of the Word from the common people is done in many ways, including telling them they can’t understand it unless they learn the original languages. Anyone teaching this is guilty of taking away the key of knowledge, of grieving and hindering the work of the Holy Spirit (Luke 11:52; Ephesians 4:30).
Satan wars against the Word – against people, the common people, being able to have the Word of God in their language and understand it. Now that we have it in our languages, Satan attempts to convince people that they can’t understand it unless they 1. go to seminary, 2. learn the original languages, 3. use several different versions, etc. Nonsense.
The beloved William Tyndale was murdered by Satan’s Roman Catholic church for translating the Bible, God’s Word, into the common language of the people – so they could know it and know God for themselves (Hosea 4:6; John 5:39-40; 20:31; Psalms 119:130; 2 Timothy 3:16-17, etc.). When the common people can read God’s Word for themselves in their own language, they are enlightened by the LORD and see His true and also see the false prophets, false religions for what they really are – the enemy’s trap door to send people to eternal hell.
The Catholic Church is Satan’s Monstrosity and has done Nothing Except Attack God’s Word
Leslie R Wilds writes:
“Did you know that when the King James Bible came out (besides the Tyndale Bible which was suppressed because they murdered him) it was the only Bible available to the General Public? Because the Catholic Church suppressed it. It came out before German rationalism, English deism, or French atheism, ever raised their ugly heads. All of that including Darwinism is a direct assault against the King James Bible because the Word of God became available to everyone through the English king who authorized it. Whether you like the king or not, King James Bible is the Word of God is not to be altered ever.”
The next time some arrogant deceived person attempts to convince you that you need to know the original languages (Hebrew and Greek) from which we derived our English Bible (KJB), ask them to speak and write just 1 Bible verse to you in Hebrew or Greek. This stops them dead in their tracks. Foolishness. As He promised, and kept His promise, God gave us His Word in our language (Psalms 12:6-7). Oh and Jesus says the written Word and Holy Spirit who gave that Word are your Teachers! See John 14:26; 16:13-14.
Beware of the doubt-casters who are the agents of Satan himself – the original doubt caster. The idea that English speaking people need the Greek and Hebrew, two dead languages, is just another complete deception. God preserved His perfect Word to us in our own language – just as He promised in Psalms 12:6-7.
A group called the “Institute of Biblical Studies” advertises the following:
“Know the Bible as you’ve never known it before! Look through the window of the original Hebrew to gain a deeper understanding of the text. Sign up Now. Uncover hidden meanings in the Scriptures by learning Biblical Hebrew and engaging with the Old Testament as never before!”
Is this true or is it a scam?
THE ORIGINALS?
Where is the perfect Word of God?
Some would tell you that you have to “go back to the originals.”
FACT: None of the originals exist.
FACT: Originals were never collated together in one book.
FACT: Originals were written in 2 now dead languages.
FACT: It’s Satan influencing some to cast doubt on whether we have God’s Word in our language (Gen 3:1).
FACT: God promised to preserve His Word to us in our own language (Ps 12:6-7). Are you calling Him a liar? Did He keep His promise? Do you understand English? Did He leave you without His Word in your own language? No.
SATAN has control over so many who vainly claim to be saved. He is behind the “Hath God said” doubting, questioning of God’s Word just like their father the devil who did so from the beginning, in the Garden, causing the fall of mankind (Genesis 3:3). So many claim to trust the LORD for salvation and yet don’t even believe God preserved His Word for us in this late hour – as He expressly foretold He would do (Ps 12:6-7). “Few there be which enter therein” (Matthew 7:13-14).
People who aren’t truly serving the LORD want to believe they are justified in their sin because they erroneously believe that there is no perfect Bible. They foolishly believe this gives them a free pass to live in sin, lukewarm, which is hell bound (Revelation 3:15-16).
Here’s why it’s certain that sin and an evil spirit are behind the questioning of God’s Word (Genesis 3:1)….. WHO said: “Hath God said?” (Genesis 3:1). Satan!
YOU know a person is under the direct control of SATAN when they question God’s Word – by casting doubt on His obvious preserved Word. There’s no other conclusion when you understand that SATAN was the first and perpetually the one behind casting doubt on God’s words – “Hath God said?” (Genesis 3:1). You MUST grasp this. This doubt-casting questioning led to the fall of mankind in the Garden of creation and is leading to the fall of many today who are wise in their own conceit, blind, and walking in darkness!
So, let’s get some things straight….Do YOU speak and write in Hebrew? No. God promised to give us His Word in our language, to preserve it for us and He did so in the KJB. (Psalms 12:6-7). … So you claim to NOT be able to understand the King James Bible in your native language, English, that you’ve learned since you were born, and now you claim that someone needs to study 2 dead languages to understand His Word? God fulfilled His promise to preserve His Word to us in our language. – “The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. 7 Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt PRESERVE them from this generation for ever” (Psalms 12:6-7).
DECEPTION:
Someone may say “Well, you say that the King James Bible is God’s Word but prove that the King James Bible is God’s Word.”
REPLY:
Prove that any of the other English “bibles” are His preserved Word. You can’t. They were taken from corrupted manuscripts. It’s easy to prove that the King James Bible is the fulfillment of the divine preservation promise of Psalms 12:6-7. You must begin with His divine promise to preserve His Word (Psalms 12:6-7) and then out of an honest heart you simply, objectively compare verses side by side, having nothing to hide and no agenda but to know the truth. Those bent on defending obvious corrupt “bibles” have sin and darkness in their hearts (John 3:19-21). See if Colossians 1:14 in your fake “bible” has the BLOOD in it. Then, see if Romans 8:1 is chopped in half. And see if that corruption you call a “bible” has removed Matthew 17:21. Case closed.
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“The KJV in comparison to the original Greek, Hebrew and Aramaic, as you put it, is a ‘cheap knockoff!’ Not everyone can understand, nor comprehend the KJV, that’s why we have the blessing of the Holy Spirit!”
REPLY:
So did the Holy Spirit of God sanction the butchering of His own words in direct contradiction to His severe warning in Revelation 22:18-19? Also, the divine promise of the preservation of His Word means that His real Word in our language is exactly what He wants us to have and equal to those languages from which it came (Ps 12:6-7). You are what some call a Bible agnostic which is a person who believes God originally gave man His Word and then changed and dropped the ball.
THERE ARE SO MANY clueless novices, arrogantly claiming to be the authority on the Bible. Very few of them care to learn a few things. They insist they know it all when they are completely ignorant of the truth about God’s Word and how He kept His promise to preserve it to us in our language (Psalms 12:6-7). This reveals some serious depth of darkness these people are in. If they are casting doubt on God’s Word, they are under the power of SATAN who’s the first one to cast doubt on God’s Word (Genesis 3:1). And, we “know them by their FRUIT” (Matthew 7:16, 20). True repentance needed.
WHEN someone casts doubt on God’s Word, in any way, they reveal they are not obeying God’s Word and refuse to. They are unrepentant.
BEWARE: Those who say you have to go back to the originals or original languages are admitting – THAT THEY OPENLY DENY THAT GOD KEPT HIS PROMISE TO PRESERVE HIS WORD TO OUR GENERATION IN OUR LANGUAGE AND THAT WE HAVE NO REAL WORD, INSTRUCTION FROM GOD TODAY (Psalms 12:6-7). This leaves people wide open to be misled by the “many false prophets” Jesus forewarned would come and “deceive many” (Matthew 24:11). If there is no real Word of God, then we aren’t responsible for knowing and obeying it, right? If there is no real Word of God, then we are relegated to listen to mere men and just do what they say and follow them, right?
These who say either, 1. We have no real Word of God today, OR, 2. That any book that says “Holy Bible” on the cover is God’s Word, are what we call “Bible agnostics.” Beware of these wolves! These are some of the vilest of devils who are casting doubt on the integrity and character of God and casting a stumbling block in the path of younger believers – by denying that God left us His Word as He promised to do.
Discrediting or questioning God’s Word reveals that you are a child of the one who did such in the Garden (Genesis 3). All who are “of God” humble receive, believe, and live out God’s Word – all others are “NOT of God.” (John 8:47)
To even come up with some foolish, detracting, groundless argument against God’s Word clearly reveals that such a person is in darkness – which means they are not right with God but rather in rebellion and therefore turned over to darkness (2 Thessalonians 2:9-12). There they are accusing God of lying to us – blaming Him by foolishly accusing Him, saying we don’t have a perfect Bible. So, from the onset of such a conversation, an attack on the LORD, you know you are dealing with a devil.
SOME who dare to cast doubt on God’s Word, the preserved Word to us in the King James Bible, do so out of pure depravity and darkness. You see, they figure if they can sear their own conscience with this heretical idea that “we really don’t have God’s Word because no translation is perfect” … then in their darkness, they vainly believe they are not accountable to a God who didn’t keep His own Word by preserving His Word for us in our language (Psalms 12:6-7). It’s the same for God-less rebels who say things like “the truth of God was lost in translation.” These people are under the dark curse of the enemy of all souls. We “know” (discern) them “By their fruit” as Jesus instructed us to do (Matthew 7:6, 20, etc.).
No other English Bible was needed after the King James Bible came forth – the 7th in the lineage of English Bibles. Is this not in fulfillment of the prophecy of Psalms 12:6-7? It sure is… check this out …. God’s Word is Inspired and Preserved
Certainly, we don’t believe the Holy Spirit of the living God is behind this attack on His own Word, now do we? Impossible! (2 Peter 1:20-21).
Now, there are certainly those who are unlearned and honestly, earnestly looking for the LORD’s answers. Those are the people we wish to help. You may think I am quick triggered and harsh concerning those who dare attack God’s Word. Keep in mind that the first one to do such is Satan himself and so we know from the onset that anyone questioning or casting doubt on God’s Word is of the devil (Genesis 3:1).
Ever notice how those who make accusations against God’s Word can’t back them up? Because they are groundless and those making these false statements are pawns of the father of all lies, Satan – the first one to question God’s Word (John 8:44; Genesis 2:17; 3:1, 4, etc.).
“The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. 7 Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt PRESERVE them from this generation for ever.” Psalms 12:6-7
Did God keep His promise to preserve His Word to us in our language? Yes or no? DARE you claim we don’t really have God’s Word? WHEN someone rejects God’s Word, they are counting themselves unworthy of everlasting life – “Then Paul and Barnabas waxed bold, and said, It was necessary that the word of God should first have been spoken to you: but seeing ye put it from you, and judge yourselves unworthy of everlasting life, lo, we turn to the Gentiles” (Acts 13:46).
ANY born again believer who compares versions side-by side knows/discerns which one is from God and therefore knows all the other fairy tale versions are from Satan – the original corrupter of God’s words (Genesis 3). Saying you have to go back to the original languages calls God a liar, openly denying the preservation of Scripture – because He promised to preserve His Word to all generations (Psalms 12:6-7). Also, nearly no one in the Western or English speaking world could read God’s Word if this were the case, right? Do YOU personally read and speak fluent Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek? No! How many people do you know who do? So, they are basically saying that if people don’t speak and read all these languages, they are out of luck and can’t have and know God’s Word. Delusional.
The Bereans “searched the SCRIPTURES” they had in their own language and not the original languages or anything extra-biblical (Acts 17:10-11). Looking into the Hebrew and Greek is fine but saying or hinting that you can’t understand God’s Word if you don’t know those languages is just another deception of the original doubt-casting perverter of God’s words, Satan. Jesus says His Word and the Holy Spirit are our teachers, not the original languages (John 5:39-40; 8:47; 14:26; 16:13-14, 2 Timothy 2:15; 3:15-17, etc.).
Now are we beginning to see just how important the divine promise recorded in Psalms 12:6-7 is?
Recently someone sent me a post that pretended to prove that the King James Bible is not God’s exclusive Word for the English speaking peoples. The first sentence gave away their erroneous position. The writer was saying that only the original manuscripts were inspired which is an unmitigated lie that denies that God kept His Word, His promise to preserve His Word to us – which transcends language (Psalms 12:6-7) This is what we call Bible agnosticism – where some people believe that God exists and yet is not active in the affairs of men, and has basically forsaken His creation. They claim He lied by not preserving His Word to us in our language as He specifically promised to do (Psalms 12:6-7). Ridiculous.
Not only is this ridiculous, it makes a fool of those who say it because they don’t read or speak even one of those three languages!
Sherry Todd writes:
“The King James Bible is the very Word of God. You can reject it if you choose. I’m not going to. Didn’t turn out too well for king Saul did it? Rejecting the Word of the Lord brings dire consequences. No thanks. So you claim that the original texts are perfect but not our Bible in English? Do you realize that you are saying that God decided that none of us today should have the incorruptible Word? Instead He gave us partial truths and is hiding His Word from us? Not. And you came to this conclusion how? You had to reject many verses to come to that conclusion including the direct promise of God in Psalms 12:6-7 to preserve His Word to all generations – that includes us! ‘God is not a man, that he should lie.’ (Numbers 23:19)”
Those who claim they can’t understand the Bible in English and then turn around and say you have to learn 2 other new and dead languages (Hebrew and Greek) to understand God’s Word, are quite confused to say the least…. think about that.
Here is my recent reply to someone who put forth the “original languages” argument:
“Do YOU speak and write Hebrew and Greek? If not then by your own definition your ‘god’ left you without his word.”
To a man who touted that he’s been studying the original languages for years, my response was:
“I have studied Greek and Hebrew for over 4 decades but there’s no need. God gave us His Word in our language just as He promised to do in Psalms 12:6-7. We both know that you do not write and speak Hebrew and Greek. Do you see what you are saying and doing here by misleading people to believe the lie that they have to know the original languages to understand God’s Word? Those are both dead languages by the way…..And you are lying on God. Psalms 12:6-7” God’s Word is Inspired and Preserved
But saying you need to know Hebrew and Greek is laughable and calls God a liar Psalms 12:6-7…. Do we have God’s Word in our language? Yes. People are running around saying you have to go back to the originals (which don’t exist) or learn Hebrew and Greek are great deceivers who destroy the trust God wants us to have in His Word-that He preserved for us in our language just like He promised. Those who say you have to know the original languages don’t read or write a lick of Greek or Hebrew themselves.
You see, that’s the underlying truth here, the issue. Satan’s agents corrupted a few manuscripts and those are in the control of the Vatican and from which all the new version “bibles” come from… it’s worldwide deception just as Jesus and His apostles warned us.
This lie that you have to know the original languages is many times perpetrated by those who want people to look to them and not God. They are casting doubt on God’s Word and destroying the faith in God’s Word in weak, young believers. It’s very Catholic to keep the Word from the people!
The same lying hypocrites who regurgitate the lie that you have to understand the 3 original languages the Bible was originally written in don’t even know those languages themselves. Ask them if they personally speak Hebrew, Greek, and Aramaic. The answer is a resounding NO. These are Satan’s agents who get weak people to believe they don’t have God’s Word and so won’t read God’s Word (KJB).
I have no idea how any person could have the slightest respect for Satan’s corruptions of Word of the God they claim to serve. THINK OF THE SPIRITUAL BETRAYAL/ADULTERY! If someone attacked your husband/wife and you STILL endorsed that attacker, HOW WOULD YOUR HUSBAND/WIFE FEEL ABOUT THAT? SMH
MARK THIS: ALL who cast doubt on God’s Word are of Satan – who is undeniably the one who began this doubt-casting when in the Garden he asked the woman “Hath God said…?” (Genesis 3:1).
“Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden? … And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall NOT surely die:” Genesis 3:1, 4
God’s Word records the fact that Satan added the word “not” to what God had said in Genesis 2:17: “But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.” (This is the first time “once saved always saved”/”eternal security” was taught-by Satan)
Satan is the original doubt caster to deceive and destroy. In the Garden he cast doubt on what God had said then added one 3-letter word to God’s Word which led to the fall of mankind into sin (Genesis 3:1, 4). Any person today who is casting doubt on whether we actually have God’s Word preserved to us is doing the work of and is a child of Satan.
Those who lie are the children of the one Jesus says is the father of all lies. No liar shall enter glory but rather shall be cast alive into the lake of fire! (John 8:44; Revelation 21:8)
A worn-out lame excuse we hear from some who are deceived is “Well, you have to go back to the original languages to know God’s truth.” In other words they are openly casting doubt upon and denying that we have God’s Word – that the LORD kept His promise to preserve His Word to us in our own language (Psalms 12:6-7). Hmmmmm. Question to such devils: “Do YOU speak and read in Hebrew and Greek? No! So, by your own definition, you can’t know God’s Word. But you are utterly deceived by your own darkened, evil heart. You are calling God a liar – saying He didn’t keep His promise to preserve His Word to all generations. Repent sinner.”
Most modern “preachers” use Satan’s “bibles” instead of the King James Bible and YET WE WONDER why the modern church world is completely apostate?
The prophesied Great Falling Away has come on the wings of Satan’s false “bibles.”
Did the LORD Drop the Ball?
Those who question that we have God’s Word today IN OUR OWN LANGUAGE by saying that you have to go back to the original languages are full blown agents of the father of lies, the archenemy of God and all souls.
To say that today’s English speaking Christians have to go back to the original autographs (which do not exist and which we do not need), these evil workers are saying we really don’t have God’s Word. They are saying God blatantly lied to us by promising to preserve His Word and then not doing so!
“The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. 7 Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.” Psalms 12:6-7
Arrogant Bible Correctors Rebuked | Bible Agnostics Exposed |God’s Word is Inspired and Preserved | Bible Versions Issue
Referring here and there to Hebrew and Greek is one thing: trying to use it to contradict the preserved Word of God for the English speaking peoples, is yet another thing and this is usually done because the antichrist doing it doesn’t want the plain truth rendered in his own language. Repentance needed.
“For we are not as MANY, which corrupt (adulterate) the word of God: but as of sincerity, but as of God, in the sight of God speak we in Christ.” 2 Corinthians 2:17
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“All Bibles are rewritten!”
REPLY:
That’s the devils’ statement, you know, the one who first changed and questioned God’s Word (Genesis 2:17; 3:1, 4). Explain that if you actually have facts instead of just parroting liars. Discrediting or questioning God’s Word reveals that you are a child of the one who did such in the Garden (Genesis 3). What’s behind the “All Bibles are rewritten!” statement? Here it is: When you hear this claim it’s being made by someone who has no facts, is just regurgitating Satan’s lie, and does not want to be accountable to God and so they deny we have His Word. Pure rebellion.
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“No matter what version, King Jesus is the One we are to preach.”
REPLY:
No one is even hinting that anyone other than KING Jesus is the central Theme of all of Scripture and the only One to be preached (1 Corinthians 2:2; Galatians 6:14). Without apology, I bring this important topic to the surface and will continue to do so – because the Word of God is the tangible medium that King Jesus ordained to reveal Himself (Lk 24:44; Jn 5:39, etc.). Personally, I will not participate or agree that this is anything but an essential topic with the highest, most severe eternal judgment attached to any man who dare add to or take away from the words of God (Revelation 22:18-19).
Perhaps the most severe warning of Scripture specifically addresses the sinful rebellion of changing God’s Word. Rev 22:17-18. Perhaps you should be crying out to the LORD to instill His holy fear deep in your heart. 
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“I agree it is the best English translation; nevertheless the Bible was written in Greek, Hebrew, and Aramaic. That is God’s Word, everything else is man’s attempt to dictate that Word in their own tongue. To suggest that the Bible was ratified in the English language is a kind of supremacy cult.”
REPLY:
Aren’t you generous to say that the KJB is the best English translation 😉 It’s not only the best it is God’s Bible for the English speaking people. You are misled and perhaps innocently. God promised to preserve His Word and He did into our language (Ps 12:6-7). Saying that God, the Almighty, was not able to fully bring His words into our language is an indictment on the Almighty. You are saying His power is diminished and that He doesn’t care about this generation and are calling God a liar to say that His Word is less in English than it was in the other languages and you have no proof of such – and seem to be acting as if your puny opinion is authoritative. You are a “Bible Agnostic” at this point. Bible Agnostics Exposed
KNOWING Hebrew and Greek is NOT the most reliable way to understand God’s Word. In fact, you don’t even need it. And, those running around saying you have to know Hebrew and Greek to understand the Word, can’t speak or write in Hebrew or Greek. Laughable. The Bible tells us how to understand the Bible!
Jesus told us that the divine Person of the Holy Spirit is our Teacher – not the Greek or Hebrew (original languages) (John 14:26; 16:13-14; 1 John 2:20, 27, etc.). Yes it’s good to look at the Hebrew and Greek here and there but His Word in our language, which He preserved (Psalms 12:6-7) and Himself are more than able to teach us. In fact, the very best way to learn is actually a system He put in His Word – line upon line learning – stacking precept upon precept (Isaiah 28:10, 13; 1 Corinthians 2:13). Thoroughly studying a topic by searching and stacking (collating) Scripture upon Scripture which speaks of that subject you are peering into, is the ultimate method to apprehend the mind of Christ on any topic … Not the original languages.
QUESTION:
“What about the Geneva Bible?
REPLY:
I am exposing the new version “bibles” which all came from the corrupted lineage of manuscripts and not the Textus Receptus which the Geneva and KJB come from.
The Geneva Bible is one of the most historically significant translations of the Bible into English, preceding the King James Version by 51 years. It was the …
Complete Bible published: 1560 Religious affiliation: Protestant
NT published: 1557 Textual basis: Textus Receptus
Textus Receptus (Latin: “received text“) is the name retroactively given to the succession of printed Greek language texts of the New Testament which constituted the textual base for the original German Luther Bible, for the translation of the New Testament into English by William Tyndale (1526), Myles Coverdale’s Bible (1535), Matthew’s Bible (1537), The Great Bible (1539), The Geneva Bible (1557 – 60), The Bishops’ Bible (1568), and the King James Version (1611), and for most other Reformation-era New Testament translations throughout Western and Central Europe such as the Spanish Reina-Valera translation and the Czech Bible of Kralice. The Textus Receptus has been translated into hundreds of languages. (See Also The Word of God for All Nations) The origin of the term “Textus Receptus” comes from the publisher’s preface to the 1633 edition produced by Abraham Elzevir and his nephew Bonaventure who were printers at Leiden:
- Textum ergo habes, nunc ab omnibus receptum: in quo nihil immutatum aut corruptum damus. Translated “so you hold the text, now received by all, in which nothing corrupt.”
The two words, “textum” and “receptum“, were modified from the accusative to the nominative case to render textus receptus. Over time, this term has been retroactively applied to Erasmus’ editions, as his work served as the basis of others that followed. Many supporters of the Textus Receptus will name any manuscript which agrees with the Textus Receptus Greek as a “Textus Receptus” type manuscript. This type of association can also apply to early church quotations and language versions.
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10 Clues Your Love for God has Waxed Cold [podcast]
The wise virgin saints are keeping their lamps full of divine oil, they are taking personal responsibility for their own spiritual state with Christ the great and soon coming Bridegroom. Read Matthew 25:1-13.
“The Love of Many Shall Wax Cold”
“And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another. 11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. 12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold. 13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. 14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.” Matthew 24:10-14
Did you notice in verse 14 that those who hot for Jesus are participating in the preaching of His Word to the end of the earth (Mark 16:15).
Anyone not devouring God’s Word daily is falling away, is not enduring to the end, is choosing the let their love for Jesus wax cold, and on the wrong, the losing end of this prophecy Jesus gave here on record in Matthew 24:10-14.
“I will spue (vomit, reject) thee out of my mouth”
“So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth. 17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:” Revelation 3:16-17
Praying God will help you love Him more (Matthew 22:37-40). It really all boils down to WHO we love most. THAT is exactly who we are serving (Romans 6:16).
Loving God is everything as far as what’s in our control – because it’s a choice, daily, and will determine if one remains in Christ to the end.
“Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. 38 This is the first and great commandment. 39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.” Matthew 22:37-40
“Thou hast left thy first love”
“Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast left thy first love. 5 Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent.” Revelation 2:4-5
1. When you are choosing not to spend quality time with God in prayer each and every morning… When you are choosing not to spend quality time with God in His Word each and every morning (Luke 9:23-24; 1 Chronicles 16:11).
2. When your love for God’s people is being reduced instead of increased (Philippians 2:12-13; 1 John 5:1) Marks of the True Christian …. “Let love be without dissimulation. Abhor that which is evil; cleave to that which is good. 10 Be kindly affectioned one to another with brotherly love; in honour preferring one another; 11 Not slothful in business; fervent in spirit; serving the Lord;” (Romans 12:9-11) See John 13:35.
“And it was told him by certain which said, Thy mother and thy brethren stand without, desiring to see thee. 21 And he answered and said unto them, My mother and my brethren are these which hear the word of God, and do it.” Luke 8:20-21
“We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death.” 1 John 3:14
“Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him.” 1 John 5:1
Reading 1 Corinthians 13 today will refresh your heart and mind on the divine importance placed upon LOVE.
3. You are not denying self and not taking up the cross daily (Luke 9:23-24; 19:27; Galatians 2:20; Colossians 3:3, etc.).
4. You aren’t communicating the light of truth to others because you no longer seek or fear the LORD and so His divine virtue isn’t teeming in and flowing out of you. Your cup no longer runs over but instead is running empty (Psalms 23). You have a lampshade over the light and are not letting His light shine in and through your life and words… “Cry aloud, spare not, lift up thy voice like a trumpet, and shew my people their transgression, and the house of Jacob their sins.” (Isaiah 58:1)
5. You live in fear instead of faith and the joy of being with Jesus (Luke 21:28; 1 John 4:16-18; Proverbs 28:1; Psalms 2:11).
6. You preach promises and not conditions…following the apostate modern church and you don’t preach the cardinal doctrines of the original Gospel which we are commanded to “earnest contend for.” (Jude 3) You begin meditating on and living by trends instead of truth (Jeremiah 9:3; 2 Timothy 4:2-4; Philippians 4:8; Romans 12:1-2).
7. You have little or no true fellowship with other born- again Bible believing disciples of Jesus as is defined in God’s Word and not by the modern church world (Acts 2:42).
The Word of God is to run rich, to be abundant among God’s people … “In all wisdom” and “all in the name of the Lord Jesus” … “Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom; teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord. 17 And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him.” (Colossians 3:16-17)
8. You know you are backsliding when your main thrust and identity become politics, not the work of the Gospel. YOU are a blood bought disciple of Jesus, not a conservative. You are a Bible believing follower of Christ (Luke 9:62; Galatians 6:14).
9. When you love this world…..When you spend more time and money on hobbies and the things of this fleeting world than you do on attending to knowing, walking with the LORD and preparing to be used of Him (Mark 4:17-19; 1 John 2:15; James 4:4).
10. When you spend more money on trash and trinkets then helping the work of the One you claim to love and the poor. You know you are backslidden when you are not obeying God with what He’s placing in your temporal possession. He shall bring you into full account for this.
Regrettably, people will give their money to any and every pleasure under the sun but make excuses when the opportunity to support the work of the One they claim to love and serve. The Holy Spirit foretold that in the final days before the return of Jesus, there would be those with a mere “form of godliness”, “men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous,” and “lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God.” (2 Timothy 3:1-7) According to the LORD, one of the main ways to measure our true love for Him or lack thereof, is by peering into our personal stewardship of the resources He’s placed into our temporary possession. Luke 12 and 16 offer a plethora of divine wisdom and warning concerning the judgment to come, the judgment we shall endure in giving account for our stewardship in this life.
The clear proof that God is working in our lives, that we are truly following Jesus, is that we are becoming less and less vested in this fleeting, fallen world (James 4:4; 1 John 2:15-17). And that we, our good works, our giving are more and more invested in eternity – in the eternal kingdom of Christ, laying up treasures in Heaven, sending them before us, relinquishing the things of this world for the glory of God – putting them to work for the eternal Gospel of Christ – for saints to be fed and equipped and the lost to hear the Word of God (Matt. 6:19-21).
“Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal: 20 But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal: 21 For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also. 22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light. 23 But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness! 24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.” Matthew 6:19-24
To underscore the importance of stewardship, we should realize that 16 of our LORD’s 38 parables involved stewardship. Those who now do not wish to face and confront this truth, are apparently those who are in the most need of hearing it.
PRAYER: Father I come to You now in the name of Jesus Christ. Please cause my conscience to be super sensitive to Your conviction, Your leading, and to evade all that defiles me in Your holy eyes, sin. Here and now I submit my life afresh to You dear LORD. You must increase but I must decrease. I am crucified with Christ and thank You for conforming me to His holy image. I am all Yours LORD and thank You that You are all mine. I love You Jesus. Please make me one with You and the Father and with Your beloved body. In Jesus’ name. Amen.
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Favorite Eternal Security “Proof” Text? [podcast]
Excerpt from the book Lie of the Ages
Does John 10:27-29 Prove “Eternal Security”?
WHO are Jesus’ Sheep? Defined by, in God’s Word.
John 10:27-29
“My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father’s hand.” ~ John 10:27-29
Verse 27 is the condition necessary to appropriate the promises of verses 28-29.
Those who believe that a man can never lose his salvation, use this John 10:28-29 text but ignore the prerequisite, the divinely given condition – v27. Watch this:
Firstly, in this passage Jesus identifies those sheep whom He makes the security promise to. He says, “My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me.” In this we see one part divine and two parts the responsibility of the individual:
- “I know them”—the divine part toward those who are truly in Christ, presently abiding (v. 27)
- Those who are His sheep “hear” His “voice” and “follow” Him—the individual’s responsibility (v. 27)
The promise to be kept is a conditional promise which requires that we choose to continue to hear His voice and follow Him (John 10:27-29). Many today wrongly detach our LORD’s words in verse 27 from verses 28-29. In doing so, they perpetrate their “eternal security” mythology.
The problem for the eternal securists is that v27 has been intentionally been ignored…. It’s the actual condition Jesus gives for receiving the assurance promises He then gives in v28-29.
Those who seek to spread the “once saved always saved” heresy use John 10:28-29 to their advantage and conveniently ignore the preceding words of Christ in verse 27. Verses 28-29 are promises of security to those who have been genuinely born again and are currently abiding in Christ – hearing His voice and following Him (John 15:1-6). Many ignore the previous qualifying words (v. 27) of Jesus where Christ tells us that only those who are hearing His voice and following Him are promised that they are secure and will never perish. There is a condition to being secure in Christ—knowing Him—which requires continuing to abide in Him, hear His voice and follow Him (see also John 15).
“Jesus will neither leave us nor forsake us, but we can leave and forsake Him by choosing our sins OVER His love, grace and mercy!” Dino Filardo
Eternal securists have been taught to selectively interpret Scripture while ignoring mountains of Bible truth, in order to come to a predetermined conclusion.
Many a false teacher has built his own ministry empire dishonestly peddling this passage. Take a closer look. Anchor the promise to be kept in verses 28-29 on verse 27 where Jesus identifies who His sheep are – those who hear and continue to hear His voice and continue to follow Him (present tense). The promise to be kept is a glorious and yet conditional promise which requires that the individual recipient of the salvation gift of God chooses to continue to hear His voice and follow Him (John 10:27-29). Many today wrongly detach our LORD’s words in verse 27 from verses 28-29 of John 10. In doing so, they perpetrate their “eternal security” or otherwise called “once saved always saved” mythology. Beware as this was the first lie Satan told mankind, which led to the fall (Genesis 2:17; 3:4).
Instead of synthesizing the whole of Scripture, false teachers isolate certain verses for their own self-serving agenda and purpose (2 Corinthians 2:17, etc.).
The sheep Jesus’ promises are going to be kept are those who endure to the end, abide (remain) with Him (John 15:1-6). The Great Shepherd defines His sheep as those who are presently hearing His voice and following Him (present tense). John 10:27-29
It’s not difficult to mislead people in the direction of the sinful nature of their hearts – because then they can evade truly repenting which is a major life change and necessity for salvation. This is why Paul foretold of this hour and how men would “heap to themselves (false) teachers having itching ears.” (2 Timothy 4:3) “Itching ears” here represents unrepentant hearts.
OSAS people make a vain attempt at redefining the words of Scripture to fit their own self-serving agenda of lukewarmness, cross-less rebellion. For example they hyper-focus on “eternal” in the term “eternal life” while intentionally refusing to synthesize the whole of what Scripture states. They hyper-focus on the word “gift” and teach that a gift could never be lost which the rest of Scripture does not agree with. They then take the word “sealed” and make it to be permanent which it cannot possibly be because the same Greek word for “sealed” is used of Jesus’ tomb which we all know was NOT permanently sealed (Matthew 27:66). In this they bear false witness against the LORD and act like some Scriptures are more divinely inspired than others. This practice reveals the evil and deceit of their own hearts. Not just some Scripture in the Bible but rather “ALL scripture is given by inspiration of God…” (2 Timothy 3:16-17) It must all be synthesized, put together, compared (1 Corinthians 2:13). Error will result in the hearts and lives of those who do not search, study, and revere “ALL scripture” in God’s Word.
Eternal security deceivers don’t want to talk about Bible verses that contradict and expose their proof texts. You see, they don’t want to get awaken by the truth to the scam they’ve bought into. The wolves who they gullibly believe instead of God’s Word, taught them to cry “context, context” all while THEY are the beguilers who are taking Scripture out of context. Just like the demonic democrats in America, they accuse their adversaries of the exact thing THEY themselves are guilty of (Romans 2:1-3).
YOU are defending OSAS and yet you gave no Bible verses? Self-deception. If “once saved always saved” were true, WHY O WHY didn’t God tell us? Such a term, phrase, or concept appear no where in Scripture and the verses you use to “prove” it are taken out of their context. OSAS is undeniably the very first lie Satan ever told and it led to the fall of mankind from a HOLY God (Genesis 2:17; 3:4). If OSAS isn’t a doctrine of devils, nothing is! (1 Timothy 4:1-2)
Is the unchanging, Almighty God no longer “Holy, holy, holy” now that He sent His only begotten Son? (Isaiah 6:3; Revelation 4:8) If He’s still holy, no unrepentant person with sin will enter His holy Heaven (Revelation 21:8, 27, etc.).
“Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord:” Hebrews 12:14
HOW is it that so many treat the words of JESUS recorded in John 10 more divinely authoritative than the words of JESUS recorded in John 15? False teachers.
Most of the dupes who cite John 10:28-29 to “prove” they can never lose their salvation, 1. Don’t even know what the preceding verse says (v27), and 2. Have no clue what JESUS says in John 15:6.
“If a man abide (remain) not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.” John 15:6
In this John 10 passage used by the unconditional eternal security crew to peddle their wares, some neglect to look closely at verse 27 to see who Jesus was specifically speaking to when He promised “they shall never perish.” “They” refers to those who “hear my voice” and “follow me.” According to verse 27 the promise of eternal security is conditional. Assurance of salvation is only to those who are presently following Christ. In verse 27 we learn that protection from judgment to come is only to those who are currently 1) hearing His voice, 2) known by Him, and 3) following Him. This is consistent with the message seen in the whole of Holy Writ.
“For if AFTER they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are AGAIN entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. 21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, AFTER they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them. 22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit AGAIN; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.” 2 Peter 2:20-22
WHO did Jesus say His true sheep are?
“My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me” (Jn. 10:27). According to these words of Christ, those who “know” Jesus and “follow” Him are given the promise that they will “never perish.” As long as the follower hears His voice and follows Him, they are assured “eternal life.” This is exactly what the Son of God taught just a few chapters later in John 15 where He says that if a branch that is in Him does not remain or abide in Him, that person will be cut off and cast into the fire (hell).
Those who abide or remain under the shadow of His holy and protective wing shall remain secure in Him (Ps. 91:1). The Good Shepherd here said: “Neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.” No man can pluck us out of His protection except ourselves by our own decisions. We who are abiding are protected from the snare of other men drawing us away as we remain walking with the Son of God. If you’re tucked, you won’t get plucked. If you’re not tucked under the wing of intimacy with Jesus, you will, can, and are likely to be plucked out of His holy hand by your own sinful unbelief. The LORD told us “Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown” (Rev. 3:11).
It’s also notable that those who emphasize John 10 to convince themselves and others that they are “eternally secure”, don’t even know much less acknowledge the words of the Savior in John 15:1-6.
Telling.
“If a man abide (remain) not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.” John 15:6
Jesus taught repeatedly that some would not continue to follow Him (“abide”) and hear His voice and would consequently “fall away.” There is record of some who once believed and then stopped believing (Lk. 8:13; 13:23-30; Jn. 6:66; Acts 8:14-23).
WHY do eternal securists get all upset when their fairy tale is exposed? Well, they are hiding behind the thin veneer of this heresy, feeling all secure, emboldened to live as they please, feeling assured in their lukewarmness and sin … denying Jesus instead of self, refusing to take up the cross that Jesus commanded all who would follow Him truly (Luke 9:23-24). Christ’s apostle Paul speaks of self-serving “enemies of the cross of Christ.” (Philippians 3:18-19) What’s behind this myth? The Psychology of Eternal Security [book]
Another Example of the Twisting of Scripture
The eternal securists seek to justify their OSAS heresy by misusing the following passage…. but in this Paul is speaking of those who go to Heaven, the judgment of saints, and not those who fell away and won’t be there because they will be in hell. They will not be present when this happens….
“Every man’s work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man’s work of what sort it is. 14 If any man’s work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. 15 If any man’s work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.” 1 Corinthians 3:13-15
One More….
Common Objection to Conditional Eternal Security….
“What about Romans 8:38-39 where it says nothing can separate us from the love of God?”
REPLY:
Simple: Notice the word LOVE not life. God will love us all the way into hell if we choose not to repent. His soul will even “weep in secret places for your pride” which comes before destruction (Jeremiah 13:17). The LORD is “Holy, holy, holy,” He’s just, and He will not ever coexist with sin. See the fall of lucifer (Isaiah 14:12-15; Ezekiel 28:13-19; Luke 10:18). The wages of sin is still death and the LORD will damn every soul that dies in sin, with no exception (Psalms 5:4; Habakkuk 1:13; Isaiah 6:3; Romans 6:23; Revelation 4:8; 21:8; 22:11, etc.). Read Jesus’s parable of the prodigal son Lk 15. Did the father love and miss his son? Yes. Did the father (represents God) go chase him down? No. The son who departed had to choose to return. Much truth there. Speaking of Romans, read 11:20-22. Now read 2 Peter 2:20-22 and the book of Hebrews.
1 John 2:19 is often also utilized to “prove” eternal security. Not.
“They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.” 1 John 2:19
Interestingly, the word “never” does not appear in this verse above which is so often used to “prove” OSAS. Let’s read it again with an objective mind. And, also remember what Jesus says about the primary importance of His teaching of the seed and the soil, the sower and the Word:
“And he said unto them, Know ye not this parable? and how then will ye know all parables?” Mark 4:13
The honest student of the whole Counsel of God’s Word knows that numerous clear Bible truths reveal that a saved person can turn away from the LORD, so we know that the apostle John could not possibly be saying that a saved person could never depart from the LORD. In my opinion, this verse is the best argument the eternal security proponent has, yet it’s not enough. There must be two or three witnesses and not just one (2 Cor. 13:1). After a closer examination of this text, one will find that verse 19 does not teach or justify “once saved always saved.” When any one verse is taken to the exclusion of the whole Word of God, one will certainly misunderstand the doctrine of the LORD which can only be apprehended by “study.” (2 Tim. 2:15) This verse is like any other verse of Scripture – it must be taken in light of the entire Counsel of God. The context to be considered is 1 John 2:18-29).
In examining the context in which 1 John 2:19 is set, we see that false teachers whom John calls “many antichrists,” had come and were telling these believers that Jesus was not the Christ (v22).
Let’s look at verses 18 and 19 together:
“Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time. They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.” 1 John 2:18-19
Note here that it is specifically of these “antichrists” that John speaks and says that “if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.”
John was speaking of those who were once saved but then departed from the faith (1 Tim 4:1), they believed and then fell away (Luke 8:12-13) …. then departed from the believers in that fellowship.
Teddy Caldwell writes:
“OSAS insists that those are professing believers, but 1 John 2:18 says such people are antichrists. 1 John 2:22 says an antichrist is one who denies that Jesus is the Christ. Anyone who does that isn’t a believer and isn’t even trying to look like one.”
Concerning 1 John 2:19, Donald Stamps, in the Life in the Spirit Study Bible, writes:
“‘THEY WENT OUT FROM US.’ When the antichrists departed from their fellowship with true believers, they were not in a saving relationship with Christ. This allows for two possibilities: (1) They were never true believers to begin with, or (2) they had once been in a saving relationship with Christ but afterward abandoned their faith in Christ.”
Right here in verse 24 of this passage we see the doctrine of personal responsibility to “remain” in faithful obedience to the LORD or lose one’s place with God (1 Cor. 15:2; Gal. 6:9; Col. 1:23). This is a teaching found throughout Holy Writ – the divine requirement to stay saved or lose all in eternity, “suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.” (Jude 7)
“Let that therefore abide (remain) in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. IF (denotes condition) that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father. And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life.” 1 John 2:24-25
Verse 24 alone tells us that we cannot think that verse 19 means that someone who is at some point in right standing with God can never depart from Him and lose out. Also, verse 25 tells us that “eternal life” (not just rewards) is at stake and the promise contingent upon the believer abiding or remaining in that “which ye have heard from the beginning” which is the Gospel. “Eternal life” is assured as long as one is remaining rooted in Jesus Christ. This is the overwhelmingly consistent message of God’s Word.
In verse 26 John says “These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you.” Verse 19 is written about the deceivers who sought to “seduce” these disciples John was addressing and not of true believers.
With all of Scripture in consideration, we can conclude that 1 John 2:19 is a specific example and not a rule of doctrine.
If you truly wish to search out this matter, let me encourage you to closely examine, break down and study this entire text (1 Jn. 2:18-29). In order to ascertain truth, one must compare the verse in question with all other related Scriptures, beginning with the context in which the verse is set (Isa. 28:9-10; 1 Cor. 2:13).
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“Reformed Theology“, is just a fancy way of saying ‘We know better than Paul, the old testament prophets, even David! And the very apostles who walked with Jesus must be unlearned men or liars.’ Nay, I will not say such a thing of my LORD and Saviour, Christ Jesus. Let God be true, and >every< man a liar.” Jonathan Crane
It’s “ungodly men” who mislead the gullible with the eternal security heresy, and the heretical doctrines and system of calvinism. Jude warned us of just that, as did the prophets (Jude 3-4; Jeremiah 23:17, etc.). Then Jude reminds us of God’s judgment upon His own covenant people who were saved out of Egypt (the world) and then “afterward destroyed.” Then Jude reminds us that God judged the angels, a third of them, who rebelled against Him and were terminated from His domain, Heaven (Isaiah 14:12-15; Luke 10:18; Revelation 12:7-12, etc.).
“For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ. 5 I will therefore put you in remembrance, though ye once knew this, how that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed them that believed not. 6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.” Jude 4-6
The Book of Jude
Greeting
1 Jude, the servant of Jesus Christ, and brother of James, to them that are sanctified by God the Father, and preserved in Jesus Christ, and called:
2 Mercy unto you, and peace, and love, be multiplied.
Judgment on False Teachers
3 Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.
4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.
5 I will therefore put you in remembrance, though ye once knew this, how that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed them that believed not.
6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.
7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
8 Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.
9 Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.
10 But these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves.
11 Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core.
12 These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots;
13 Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever.
14 And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,
15 To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.
16 These are murmurers, complainers, walking after their own lusts; and their mouth speaketh great swelling words, having men’s persons in admiration because of advantage.
A Call to Persevere
17 But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ;
18 How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.
19 These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.
20 But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost,
21 Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.
22 And of some have compassion, making a difference:
23 And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.
Doxology
24 Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy,
25 To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.