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SO, if JESUS addressed ahab and jezebel and the horrible effects of allowing a woman to lead His church, should we not talk about it? (Revelation 2:20-24) How is discussing something clearly addressed in the BIBLE causing division? Simple: By divine design, truth only causes division between those who love it and those who reject it! (Matthew 10:34; John 8:47)

When this topic is discussed, one can notice exactly who it is that doesn’t want this discussed, and call it un-edifying and divisive. It’s those who are in violation of this truth who hate the light of truth shining on their own darkness (John 3:19-21).

Lots of people who are called out for their darkness and disobedience to the Word of God want to claim they are being “led by the Holy Spirit.” Basically, they are saying that they are not accountable to obey God’s Word because they are led by the Spirit. Well, we know they are being led by a spirit but it’s not the Holy Spirit of truth (John 14:26; 16:13-14, etc.). This is their way of smoke screening their own rebellion, their own lawless hearts against the LORD. The Holy Spirit only dwells in those who obey Jesus, obey the Word of God and the Holy Ghost will never contradict His own Word where He clearly sets the roles for men and women. God doesn’t use anyone, including a donkey to cast doubt on or deny His truth written in His Word.

LOTS OF PEOPLE CLAIMING TO BE LED BY THE HOLY SPIRIT: Jesus anoints His people with His Holy Ghost to put to death the deeds of the body! (Romans 8:13-14) If you are truly full of and led by the Holy Spirit, you are denying yourself, taking up the cross daily, and authentically following Him (Luke 9:23-24, etc.).

Duane Stewart writes: “Jezebel does not like this biblical message that exposes her! It exposes her. Real GODLY women are so content and seek to operate in their creation roles. God has different roles for men and women, but He loves them the same. But that’s not enough for Jezebel. She always wants more, just like Eve did…….Genesis 3:6 says: ‘And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.'”

“Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.” 1 John 4:1

HOW do we “try (test) the spirits”? (1 John 4:1) Simple: judge it against the written Word! (Acts 17:10-11)

Can you also tell us where even 1 women is seen as an elder over God’s people in the 27 books of the New Testament Scriptures?

These are some of the treacherous afflictions suffered when confronting this evil spirit that has possessed many today and is wreaking havoc (Revelation 2:20-24). And this pertains to the weak, moral coward men who allow (suffer) women to operate in a role of leadership God forbids (1 Timothy 2:12). Did Jesus not liken this jezebel and enabling ahab phenomenon to the very “depths of SATAN”? (Revelation 2:24) ONE of the things that makes Jezebel so seductive is that she will actually expose other false leaders. The fact that she exposes false teachers makes the game she’s running that much more seductive as she hides behind this feigned, supposed concern. Yet she herself is a lawless usurper and false. By exposing false leaders, the Jezebel is trying to appear to be the hero so she can set up her facade (cover, covert position) to operate from. Why would we be surprised since her father is the very master of deceit?

Jezebel can only function where there is one or more ahabs (Revelation 2:20-24).

Men failing to lead in no way justifies the sin of women elders. Jezebel. In fact, the men who failed to obey God in Thyatira allowed women to lead and it brought untold destruction to all. That’s what JESUS said. Revelation 2:20-24. Repent.

“I’ve never heard preaching about the Jezebel characteristics at Church!! ..thank God I know about the Jezebel spirit from my Bible study I go to!! the truth is heard and taught there! I was told alot of Preachers don’t Preach the truth because the members would chew them out! I believe if this post was preached in MOST Churches today…it would cause a storm!! and you’d see alot of empty pews!! I am so thankful for you Todd!! we need to hear the truth and you have no fear!!…this post is spot on!!” Gina Mondello

JEZEBELS will claim that those men who confront them “have a problem with women.” No! Jezebels have a problem with God and men! They are lawless, out of order, rebels. Jezebel, it’s an epidemic!

IF THE JEZEBELS DON’T HATE YOU YET, you haven’t yet penetrated too deep into the enemy’s camp. Keep plowing saints! And when you get persecuted and slandered and attacked by these wicked wolves, rejoice!

WOULD GOD LEAD A WOMAN TO CORRECT A MAN? There should be no question after reading this Bible verse. Women are not to teach NOR usurp authority over the man. There’s a stated order in God’s creation and in the Word for the family and the gatherings of the saints/church. The woman who argues doctrine with a man or seeks to rebuke/correct him is out of God’s order. Only a jezebel would dare so such while claiming to serve Jesus. There’s only 1 example of a woman ruling over men in the New Testament and it’s JEZEBEL! (Revelation 2:20-24; 1 Timothy 2:11-12)

ANY QUESTIONS? – “BUT I SUFFER NOT A WOMAN TO TEACH, NOR TO USURP AUTHORITY OVER THE MAN, BUT TO BE IN SILENCE.” 1 TIMOTHY 2:12

JEZEBELS ARE THOSE WOMEN WHO EVILLY (OUT OF AN EVIL HEART) DESIRE TO RULE OVER MEN AND THEY HAVE NO AUTHORITY TO DO SO FROM GOD. SO, THEY SPEND ALL THEIR TIME AND ENERGY SEEKING TO SELF-ASSERT THEMSELVES OVER MEN AND IN PLACES OF AUTHORITY RESERVED ONLY FOR MEN (BY DIVINE ORDINATION). REMEMBER THAT JESUS ADDRESSED THIS EXACT THING SPECIFICALLY AND TOLD US THAT JEZEBELS ARE SELF-APPOINTED (REVELATION 2:20-24). IN OTHER WORDS THESE ARE WOMEN WHO APPOINT THEMSELVES. GOD DIDN’T APPOINT THEM TO PLACES OF AUTHORITY, ESPECIALLY OVER MEN (1 TIMOTHY 2:12). TRUE, GOD-FEARING WOMEN ARE HUMBLY SUBMITTED TO THEIR MAKER WHO CALLED THEM TO THE VERY HIGHEST, MOST EXALTED PLACE IN HIS KINGDOM – SERVANTS! (MATTHEW 23:11) …

ANY QUESTIONS? – “BUT I SUFFER NOT A WOMAN TO TEACH, NOR TO USURP AUTHORITY OVER THE MAN, BUT TO BE IN SILENCE.” 1 TIMOTHY 2:12
AS HIS CREATION, WE MUST ABIDE EXACTLY WHERE HE HAS ORDAINED AND STATED WE ARE TO ABIDE AND IF WE DO OTHERWISE, WE REBEL AGAINST HIM BEFORE WHOM WE SHALL STAND TO GIVE FULL ACCOUNT.

—- I DON’T MEAN TO BE RUDE, SAINTS, BUT IF JEZEBELS AND THEIR ENABLING AHABS DON’T HATE AND LASH OUT AT YOU, YOU’RE STILL A POWDER PUFF SPIRITUALLY SPEAKING. YOU ARE DOING LITTLE OR NO DAMAGE TO THE KINGDOM OF DARKNESS. WHEN YOU BEGIN TO, YOU WILL KNOW IT BECAUSE THESE VILE DEVILS, WORKING THROUGH JEZEBELS WILL SEEK TO UNLEASH THE WRATH OF HELL UPON YOU. THEY ARE BASICALLY JUST SATANISTS OPERATING UNDER THE COVER OF “MINISTERS” FOR CHRIST. THIS IS EXACTLY AND SPECIFICALLY WHAT PAUL WARNED US ABOUT IN 2 CORINTHIANS 11:12-15. AGAIN, NO OFFENSE MEANT. COME ON IN, THE WATER’S FINE! … I’VE GOTTEN USED TO THE UNDILUTED, DIABOLICAL HATRED COMING AT ME FROM JEZEBELS AND THE AHAB PANSIES WHO DEFEND AND ENABLE THEM …. MAN THEY HATE ME AND I’D REALLY BE WORRIED ABOUT WHERE I STOOD WITH GOD IF THEY DIDN’T BECAUSE JESUS SAYS: “WOE UNTO YOU, WHEN ALL MEN SHALL SPEAK WELL OF YOU! FOR SO DID THEIR FATHERS TO THE FALSE PROPHETS.” LUKE 6:26 … 1 KINGS 18:4 TELLS US THAT “JEZEBEL CUT OFF (CASTRATED, EMASCULATED) THE PROPHETS OF THE LORD,” NOTHING HAS CHANGED: THESE EVIL SPIRITS WAR AGAINST THE TRUE SERVANTS OF THE LORD. THE ONLY REASON A JEZEBEL OR HER SISSY COUNTERPART AHAB WOULD SEEM TO BE GETTING ALONG WITH YOU IS BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT OF THE TRUTH.

THE COMPLIMENTARY BLESSING OF THE MASCULINE AND THE FEMININE IS A BEAUTIFUL TAPESTRY THE LORD DESIGNED. JEZEBEL IS SIMPLY AN ANTICHRIST WHO WARS AGAINST GOD’S DESIGN – SEEKING TO PERVERT (INVERT AND SUBVERT) IT (ISAIAH 5:20-24). WHY WOULD THIS BE A SURPRISE IN THAT JESUS TOLD US THAT SATAN HAS COME “TO STEAL, TO KILL, AND TO DESTROY”? (JOHN 10:10)

ONLY those who are in obedience to the truth are under divine protection! ALL others are at the “mercy” of he who has come to steal, kill, and destroy (John 10:10).

How many times is the word “Jezebel” found in God’s Word? Jezebel appears 23 times in the King James Bible.

Does the word “Jezebel” appear in the New Testament? If so, what is the context and teaching to be derived?

What is “Jezebel” referring to when mentioned in the Bible?

Who is “Jezebel” referring to when mentioned in the Bible? Is it an individual of old or could it also refer to others of like characteristics?

Is it incorrect to use the phrase “spirit of Jezebel”?

I said there is a spirit behind that rebellion; yes, which is biblical perspective …. Jesus told Peter to “get thee behind me SATAN” … right? Matt 16

Those who rebel have demons come upon them … demon spirits …. ANY woman seeking to act outside of God’s role for women has evil spirits on her.

Is it incorrect to use the term “spirit of Jezebel?”

“And when the sons of the prophets which were to view at Jericho saw him, they said, The spirit of Elijah doth rest on Elisha. And they came to meet him, and bowed themselves to the ground before him.” 2 Kings 2:15

The reason “The spirit of Elijah” was seen in the life of Elisha is due to the same blessed Holy Spirit and good fruit that existed in the life of Elijah and now abode in Elisha.

Because he would possess some of the same calling and characteristics of the prophet Elijah, it was said of John the Baptist that he would go before Christ and be “in the spirit and power of Elias.” So, the same Holy Spirit that dwelt in Elijah was to dwell in John the Baptist. … “And he shall go before him in the spirit and power of Elias, to turn the hearts of the fathers to the children, and the disobedient to the wisdom of the just; to make ready a people prepared for the Lord.” Luke 1:17

The use of the words “spirit of” seems to indicate what spirit is in control of that person’s life or what spirit is operating in them. The fruit of that person’s life will always point to the answer – will always give you that answer.

So, if a person exhibits the same characteristics of Jezebel of old, then saying they have “the spirit of Jezebel” seems appropriate in my opinion.

HERE’S WHAT TYPE PEOPLE HAVE RESPONDED TO THE BIBLICAL TEACHING OF JEZEBEL:

God fearing women who agree with God’s Word, allowing the Holy Scriptures to be true and every man, woman, and devil a liar (Romans 3:4).
Women who still have jezebellic tendencies controlling their lives. These type women either a) hold in their anger and anguish, b) lash out at the messenger who dares to teach on this Bible topic, or c) repent and seek the LORD’s transformation and healing.
Men who are Ahab and feel a sense of familiarity with this evil spirit that can most of the time be found operating through women. Perhaps they have compromised with that evil spirit that was or is working in their mother or wife or some other woman in their life. This is exactly what Ahab, Jezebel’s husband did.

Those who attack the messengers who expose this evil spirit are obviously oppressed or possessed by that devil. The fact that they viciously persecute the preachers who expose the demons that control their lives only further proves the truth of this matter. They have to cover for themselves and so throw out a smokescreen to mask the evil that still lurks in their own hearts. The fact that they viciously attack the messengers of this message only further reveals that they are under its power, and, the need to preach this part of God’s Word. The demon spirits that attach to and operate in and through these people have been given free reign and authority due to some entry point. That entry point is sin which we are all born in. Those who do not repent (surrender; lay down their lives) are outside of the kingdom of God. They are in the kingdom of darkness and dominated by the enemy of all souls. So, as we see repeatedly in Scripture accounts, when Satan is getting ready to be exposed, he lashes out in order to attempt to evade being cast out (Matthew 8:28-32; Acts). The case in Matthew 8 where the devils asked Jesus to cast them into the swine seems to indicate that, knowing Christ was about to evict them from the human body they currently occupied, those evil spirits sought to remain in a body (or bodies) and so requested to be sent into the swine (pigs). The pigs ran violently into the nearby water and perished. If pigs don’t want devils possessing them, I wonder why some humans allow such, especially when God made full provision through Christ to deliver fully, set free, and make whole! (Luke 4:18) That’s why Jesus came!

God ordains that women are to protected under the servant leadership of men.

Like the original Jezebel, any person today who is possessed by her evil characteristics is under the domination of that same evil spirit.

JEZEBEL IS NOT UNDER GOD’S AUTHORITY AND LIKES TO OPERATE ANYWHERE SHE IS AND/OR ANYWHERE SHE CAN SUBVERT GOD’S ORDAINED ORDER AND AUTHORITY. IF A PERSON IS NOT TRULY SUBMITTED TO THE LORD, WHICH BEGINS WITH TRUE REPENTANCE, THAT PERSON WILL BE DOMINATED BY SATAN (JAMES 4:7). THIS EVIL SPIRIT SEEKS TO SUBVERT, DISRUPT AND DESTROY ANYWHERE IT POSSIBLY CAN SUCH AS IN THE INDIVIDUAL’S LIFE, THE FAMILY, THE CHURCH, ETC.

Did Jesus Mention Jezebel?

“Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest (allow) that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols. 21 And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not. 22 Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds. 23 And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works. 24 But unto you I say, and unto the rest in Thyatira, as many as have not this doctrine, and which have not known the depths of Satan, as they speak; I will put upon you none other burden.” Revelation 2:20-24

So, if Jesus says “I will kill her children with death,” is there not a deep need to understand what He’s saying to us here?

BEWARE: Any man who dares tackle or take on this biblical topic of Jezebel, is going to be profusely attacked, maligned, purposely mischaracterized, etc…… I have been teaching on this Bible topic along with dozens of others for three decades now and have found that dealing with this topic of Jezebel, from what Scripture tells us, will cause the guilty to lash out and attempt to discredit the messengers as men who hate and mistreat women, etc. Most people who are convicted of their sin by this Bible message, do not want to repent and so diabolical hatred fumes in them and they lash out viciously against the messenger who delivered God’s Word. Their guilt and then refusal to repent causes them to be turned over by the LORD to an even stronger “delusion” and occupation of Satan (2 Thessalonians 2:9-12).

—- TIME FOR SOME BACKBONE GENTLEMEN! … IS IT THAT I HATE WOMEN OR IS IT THAT SOME, A FEW WOMEN, HAVE A DEEP SEATED HATRED FOR MEN DUE TO A PAST ABUSE? MANY TIMES THEY DON’T EVEN REALIZE IT, YET, AND THAT’S WHY THIS BIBLICAL MESSAGE IS SO IMPORTANT. IT BRINGS TO SURFACE DEEP HURTS AND MUST BE PREACHED BELOVED SAINTS BECAUSE IT’S IN GOD’S WORD. THE LORD IS SETTING THOSE WHO WILL FREE BY HIS BLESSED TRUTH AND GRACE (JOHN 8:31-32, 36). IS IT A SIN FOR A MAN CALLED OUT TO PREACH THE ORIGINAL GOSPEL TO DARE AND SAY THAT WOMEN ARE TO BE PROTECTED AND NOT THROWN TO THE DEVILS (DOGS) BY BEING SUFFERED (ALLOWED) TO BE IN A PLACE OF LEADERSHIP OVER MEN THAT IS RESERVED JUST FOR MEN? ISN’T THIS EXACTLY WHAT JESUS WAS SPEAKING OF IN REVELATION 2:20-23? LET’S PEER INTO HIS PRECEPTS BELOVED SAINTS SO WE CAN SEE HIS BLESSED WILL. IT’S ALWAYS TO BENEFIT US. WOMEN ARE “THE WEAKER VESSEL” AND MUST BE PROTECTED IN THE TRUTH BY GOD-FEARING MEN WHO HOLD TO IT (1 PETER 3:1-7). THIS IS WHAT JESUS IS SAYING IN REVELATION 2:20-23. AHABISH MEN ARE TO BE BLAMED TODAY – WEAK, SPINELESS, COWARDLY MORAL PANSIES WHO CATER TO FLESH INSTEAD OF FEARING AND OBEYING CHRIST. WHAT FRUIT DID JESUS TELL US RESULTS FROM ALLOWING WOMEN TO BE IN LEADERSHIP OVER MEN IN CHRIST’S BODY? IT’S HORRIBLE. PRAY OVER AND READ REVELATION 2:20-23 TO FIND OUT AND HEED THE WARNING OF THE SON OF GOD. … “AM I THEREFORE BECOME YOUR ENEMY, BECAUSE I TELL YOU THE TRUTH?” (GALATIANS 4:16) … IF SO, SO BE IT!

God made women with such great, incredible potential to bless or to curse:

“Every wise woman buildeth her house: but the foolish plucketh it down with her hands.” Proverbs 14:1

GODLY MEN, life is all about serving Jesus by solving problems for others, amen?

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Favorite Eternal Security “Proof” Text? [podcast]

Excerpt from the book Lie of the Ages

Does John 10:27-29 Prove “Eternal Security”?

WHO are Jesus’ Sheep? Defined by, in God’s Word.

John 10:27-29

“My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father’s hand.” ~ John 10:27-29

Verse 27 is the condition necessary to appropriate the promises of verses 28-29.

Those who believe that a man can never lose his salvation, use this John 10:28-29 text but ignore the prerequisite, the divinely given condition – v27. Watch this:

Firstly, in this passage Jesus identifies those sheep whom He makes the security promise to. He says, “My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me.” In this we see one part divine and two parts the responsibility of the individual:

“I know them”—the divine part toward those who are truly in Christ, presently abiding (v. 27)
Those who are His sheep “hear” His “voice” and “follow” Him—the individual’s responsibility (v. 27)

The promise to be kept is a conditional promise which requires that we choose to continue to hear His voice and follow Him (John 10:27-29). Many today wrongly detach our LORD’s words in verse 27 from verses 28-29. In doing so, they perpetrate their “eternal security” mythology.

The problem for the eternal securists is that v27 has been intentionally been ignored…. It’s the actual condition Jesus gives for receiving the assurance promises He then gives in v28-29.

Those who seek to spread the “once saved always saved” heresy use John 10:28-29 to their advantage and conveniently ignore the preceding words of Christ in verse 27. Verses 28-29 are promises of security to those who have been genuinely born again and are currently abiding in Christ – hearing His voice and following Him (John 15:1-6). Many ignore the previous qualifying words (v. 27) of Jesus where Christ tells us that only those who are hearing His voice and following Him are promised that they are secure and will never perish. There is a condition to being secure in Christ—knowing Him—which requires continuing to abide in Him, hear His voice and follow Him (see also John 15).

“Jesus will neither leave us nor forsake us, but we can leave and forsake Him by choosing our sins OVER His love, grace and mercy!” Dino Filardo

Eternal securists have been taught to selectively interpret Scripture while ignoring mountains of Bible truth, in order to come to a predetermined conclusion.

Many a false teacher has built his own ministry empire dishonestly peddling this passage. Take a closer look. Anchor the promise to be kept in verses 28-29 on verse 27 where Jesus identifies who His sheep are – those who hear and continue to hear His voice and continue to follow Him (present tense). The promise to be kept is a glorious and yet conditional promise which requires that the individual recipient of the salvation gift of God chooses to continue to hear His voice and follow Him (John 10:27-29). Many today wrongly detach our LORD’s words in verse 27 from verses 28-29 of John 10. In doing so, they perpetrate their “eternal security” or otherwise called “once saved always saved” mythology. Beware as this was the first lie Satan told mankind, which led to the fall (Genesis 2:17; 3:4).

Instead of synthesizing the whole of Scripture, false teachers isolate certain verses for their own self-serving agenda and purpose (2 Corinthians 2:17, etc.).

The sheep Jesus’ promises are going to be kept are those who endure to the end, abide (remain) with Him (John 15:1-6). The Great Shepherd defines His sheep as those who are presently hearing His voice and following Him (present tense). John 10:27-29

It’s not difficult to mislead people in the direction of the sinful nature of their hearts – because then they can evade truly repenting which is a major life change and necessity for salvation. This is why Paul foretold of this hour and how men would “heap to themselves (false) teachers having itching ears.” (2 Timothy 4:3) “Itching ears” here represents unrepentant hearts.

OSAS people make a vain attempt at redefining the words of Scripture to fit their own self-serving agenda of lukewarmness, cross-less rebellion. For example they hyper-focus on “eternal” in the term “eternal life” while intentionally refusing to synthesize the whole of what Scripture states. They hyper-focus on the word “gift” and teach that a gift could never be lost which the rest of Scripture does not agree with. They then take the word “sealed” and make it to be permanent which it cannot possibly be because the same Greek word for “sealed” is used of Jesus’ tomb which we all know was NOT permanently sealed (Matthew 27:66). In this they bear false witness against the LORD and act like some Scriptures are more divinely inspired than others. This practice reveals the evil and deceit of their own hearts. Not just some Scripture in the Bible but rather “ALL scripture is given by inspiration of God…” (2 Timothy 3:16-17) It must all be synthesized, put together, compared (1 Corinthians 2:13). Error will result in the hearts and lives of those who do not search, study, and revere “ALL scripture” in God’s Word.

Eternal security deceivers don’t want to talk about Bible verses that contradict and expose their proof texts. You see, they don’t want to get awaken by the truth to the scam they’ve bought into. The wolves who they gullibly believe instead of God’s Word, taught them to cry “context, context” all while THEY are the beguilers who are taking Scripture out of context. Just like the demonic democrats in America, they accuse their adversaries of the exact thing THEY themselves are guilty of (Romans 2:1-3).

YOU are defending OSAS and yet you gave no Bible verses? Self-deception. If “once saved always saved” were true, WHY O WHY didn’t God tell us? Such a term, phrase, or concept appear no where in Scripture and the verses you use to “prove” it are taken out of their context. OSAS is undeniably the very first lie Satan ever told and it led to the fall of mankind from a HOLY God (Genesis 2:17; 3:4). If OSAS isn’t a doctrine of devils, nothing is! (1 Timothy 4:1-2)

Is the unchanging, Almighty God no longer “Holy, holy, holy” now that He sent His only begotten Son? (Isaiah 6:3; Revelation 4:8) If He’s still holy, no unrepentant person with sin will enter His holy Heaven (Revelation 21:8, 27, etc.).

“Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord:” Hebrews 12:14

HOW is it that so many treat the words of JESUS recorded in John 10 more divinely authoritative than the words of JESUS recorded in John 15? False teachers.

Most of the dupes who cite John 10:28-29 to “prove” they can never lose their salvation, 1. Don’t even know what the preceding verse says (v27), and 2. Have no clue what JESUS says in John 15:6.

“If a man abide (remain) not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.” John 15:6

In this John 10 passage used by the unconditional eternal security crew to peddle their wares, some neglect to look closely at verse 27 to see who Jesus was specifically speaking to when He promised “they shall never perish.” “They” refers to those who “hear my voice” and “follow me.” According to verse 27 the promise of eternal security is conditional. Assurance of salvation is only to those who are presently following Christ. In verse 27 we learn that protection from judgment to come is only to those who are currently 1) hearing His voice, 2) known by Him, and 3) following Him. This is consistent with the message seen in the whole of Holy Writ.

“For if AFTER they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are AGAIN entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. 21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, AFTER they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them. 22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit AGAIN; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.” 2 Peter 2:20-22

WHO did Jesus say His true sheep are?

“My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me” (Jn. 10:27). According to these words of Christ, those who “know” Jesus and “follow” Him are given the promise that they will “never perish.” As long as the follower hears His voice and follows Him, they are assured “eternal life.” This is exactly what the Son of God taught just a few chapters later in John 15 where He says that if a branch that is in Him does not remain or abide in Him, that person will be cut off and cast into the fire (hell).

Those who abide or remain under the shadow of His holy and protective wing shall remain secure in Him (Ps. 91:1). The Good Shepherd here said: “Neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.” No man can pluck us out of His protection except ourselves by our own decisions. We who are abiding are protected from the snare of other men drawing us away as we remain walking with the Son of God. If you’re tucked, you won’t get plucked. If you’re not tucked under the wing of intimacy with Jesus, you will, can, and are likely to be plucked out of His holy hand by your own sinful unbelief. The LORD told us “Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown” (Rev. 3:11).

It’s also notable that those who emphasize John 10 to convince themselves and others that they are “eternally secure”, don’t even know much less acknowledge the words of the Savior in John 15:1-6.

Telling.

“If a man abide (remain) not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.” John 15:6

Jesus taught repeatedly that some would not continue to follow Him (“abide”) and hear His voice and would consequently “fall away.” There is record of some who once believed and then stopped believing (Lk. 8:13; 13:23-30; Jn. 6:66; Acts 8:14-23).

Lie of the Ages (the book)

WHY do eternal securists get all upset when their fairy tale is exposed? Well, they are hiding behind the thin veneer of this heresy, feeling all secure, emboldened to live as they please, feeling assured in their lukewarmness and sin … denying Jesus instead of self, refusing to take up the cross that Jesus commanded all who would follow Him truly (Luke 9:23-24). Christ’s apostle Paul speaks of self-serving “enemies of the cross of Christ.” (Philippians 3:18-19) What’s behind this myth? The Psychology of Eternal Security [book]

Another Example of the Twisting of Scripture

The eternal securists seek to justify their OSAS heresy by misusing the following passage…. but in this Paul is speaking of those who go to Heaven, the judgment of saints, and not those who fell away and won’t be there because they will be in hell. They will not be present when this happens….

“Every man’s work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man’s work of what sort it is. 14 If any man’s work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. 15 If any man’s work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.” 1 Corinthians 3:13-15

One More….

Common Objection to Conditional Eternal Security….

“What about Romans 8:38-39 where it says nothing can separate us from the love of God?”

REPLY:

Simple: Notice the word LOVE not life. God will love us all the way into hell if we choose not to repent. His soul will even “weep in secret places for your pride” which comes before destruction (Jeremiah 13:17). The LORD is “Holy, holy, holy,” He’s just, and He will not ever coexist with sin. See the fall of lucifer (Isaiah 14:12-15; Ezekiel 28:13-19; Luke 10:18). The wages of sin is still death and the LORD will damn every soul that dies in sin, with no exception (Psalms 5:4; Habakkuk 1:13; Isaiah 6:3; Romans 6:23; Revelation 4:8; 21:8; 22:11, etc.). Read Jesus’s parable of the prodigal son Lk 15. Did the father love and miss his son? Yes. Did the father (represents God) go chase him down? No. The son who departed had to choose to return. Much truth there. Speaking of Romans, read 11:20-22. Now read 2 Peter 2:20-22 and the book of Hebrews.

1 John 2:19 is often also utilized to “prove” eternal security. Not.

“They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.” 1 John 2:19

Interestingly, the word “never” does not appear in this verse above which is so often used to “prove” OSAS. Let’s read it again with an objective mind. And, also remember what Jesus says about the primary importance of His teaching of the seed and the soil, the sower and the Word:

“And he said unto them, Know ye not this parable? and how then will ye know all parables?” Mark 4:13

The honest student of the whole Counsel of God’s Word knows that numerous clear Bible truths reveal that a saved person can turn away from the LORD, so we know that the apostle John could not possibly be saying that a saved person could never depart from the LORD. In my opinion, this verse is the best argument the eternal security proponent has, yet it’s not enough. There must be two or three witnesses and not just one (2 Cor. 13:1). After a closer examination of this text, one will find that verse 19 does not teach or justify “once saved always saved.” When any one verse is taken to the exclusion of the whole Word of God, one will certainly misunderstand the doctrine of the LORD which can only be apprehended by “study.” (2 Tim. 2:15) This verse is like any other verse of Scripture – it must be taken in light of the entire Counsel of God. The context to be considered is 1 John 2:18-29).

In examining the context in which 1 John 2:19 is set, we see that false teachers whom John calls “many antichrists,” had come and were telling these believers that Jesus was not the Christ (v22).

Let’s look at verses 18 and 19 together:

“Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time. They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.” 1 John 2:18-19

Note here that it is specifically of these “antichrists” that John speaks and says that “if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.”

John was speaking of those who were once saved but then departed from the faith (1 Tim 4:1), they believed and then fell away (Luke 8:12-13) …. then departed from the believers in that fellowship.

Teddy Caldwell writes:

“OSAS insists that those are professing believers, but 1 John 2:18 says such people are antichrists. 1 John 2:22 says an antichrist is one who denies that Jesus is the Christ. Anyone who does that isn’t a believer and isn’t even trying to look like one.”

Concerning 1 John 2:19, Donald Stamps, in the Life in the Spirit Study Bible, writes:

“‘THEY WENT OUT FROM US.’ When the antichrists departed from their fellowship with true believers, they were not in a saving relationship with Christ. This allows for two possibilities: (1) They were never true believers to begin with, or (2) they had once been in a saving relationship with Christ but afterward abandoned their faith in Christ.”

Right here in verse 24 of this passage we see the doctrine of personal responsibility to “remain” in faithful obedience to the LORD or lose one’s place with God (1 Cor. 15:2; Gal. 6:9; Col. 1:23). This is a teaching found throughout Holy Writ – the divine requirement to stay saved or lose all in eternity, “suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.” (Jude 7)

“Let that therefore abide (remain) in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. IF (denotes condition) that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father. And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life.” 1 John 2:24-25

Verse 24 alone tells us that we cannot think that verse 19 means that someone who is at some point in right standing with God can never depart from Him and lose out. Also, verse 25 tells us that “eternal life” (not just rewards) is at stake and the promise contingent upon the believer abiding or remaining in that “which ye have heard from the beginning” which is the Gospel. “Eternal life” is assured as long as one is remaining rooted in Jesus Christ. This is the overwhelmingly consistent message of God’s Word.

In verse 26 John says “These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you.” Verse 19 is written about the deceivers who sought to “seduce” these disciples John was addressing and not of true believers.

With all of Scripture in consideration, we can conclude that 1 John 2:19 is a specific example and not a rule of doctrine.

If you truly wish to search out this matter, let me encourage you to closely examine, break down and study this entire text (1 Jn. 2:18-29). In order to ascertain truth, one must compare the verse in question with all other related Scriptures, beginning with the context in which the verse is set (Isa. 28:9-10; 1 Cor. 2:13).

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It’s “ungodly men” who mislead the gullible with the eternal security heresy, and the heretical doctrines and system of calvinism. Jude warned us of just that, as did the prophets (Jude 3-4; Jeremiah 23:17, etc.). Then Jude reminds us of God’s judgment upon His own covenant people who were saved out of Egypt (the world) and then “afterward destroyed.” Then Jude reminds us that God judged the angels, a third of them, who rebelled against Him and were terminated from His domain, Heaven (Isaiah 14:12-15; Luke 10:18; Revelation 12:7-12, etc.).

“For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ. 5 I will therefore put you in remembrance, though ye once knew this, how that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed them that believed not. 6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.” Jude 4-6

The Book of Jude

Greeting

1 Jude, the servant of Jesus Christ, and brother of James, to them that are sanctified by God the Father, and preserved in Jesus Christ, and called:

2 Mercy unto you, and peace, and love, be multiplied.

Judgment on False Teachers

3 Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.

4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.

5 I will therefore put you in remembrance, though ye once knew this, how that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed them that believed not.

6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

8 Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.

9 Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.

10 But these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves.

11 Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core.

12 These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots;

13 Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever.

14 And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,

15 To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.

16 These are murmurers, complainers, walking after their own lusts; and their mouth speaketh great swelling words, having men’s persons in admiration because of advantage.

A Call to Persevere

17 But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ;

18 How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.

19 These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.

20 But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost,

21 Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.

22 And of some have compassion, making a difference:

23 And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.

Doxology

24 Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy,

25 To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.

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“The entrance of thy words giveth light; it giveth understanding unto the simple.” Psalms 119:130

ALL who are not in God’s written Word daily are not hearing from God, do not have God’s wisdom and direction, and are walking in darkness – 100%.

The feeding of Christ’s flock would integrally involve exhorting them to diligently study and walk in God’s Word themselves, daily (John 21:15-17). Isn’t this exactly what the apostle Paul told Timothy to do? Yes. He told his understudy to “Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.” (2 Timothy 2:15)

One of the ways we know who the false ministers are, is that they want people dependent on THEM, not God. So, they don’t constantly exhort the people to get into God’s Word, the Holy Scriptures, for themselves. Run.

“This book of the law shall not depart out of thy mouth; but thou shalt meditate therein day and night, that thou mayest observe to do according to all that is written therein: for then thou shalt make thy way prosperous, and then thou shalt have good success.” Joshua 1:8

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“Thy words were found, and I did eat them; and thy word was unto me the joy and rejoicing of mine heart: for I am called by thy name, O LORD God of hosts.” Jeremiah 15:16

“Neither have I gone back from the commandment of his lips; I have esteemed the words of his mouth more than my necessary food.” Job 23:12

“Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom; teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord.” Colossians 3:16

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