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Excerpt from the book Predators in Our Pulpits.

On one hand we have the evangelicals ignoring and openly rejecting the gifts and power of the Holy Spirit, and on the other extreme we have the NAR (New Apostolic Reformation cult) and WOF (Word of Faith cult) movements misusing those gifts and the power of God. So what’s the biblical balance?

“And when they had prayed, the place was shaken where they were assembled together; and they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and they spake the word of God with boldness.” – Acts 4:31

What is a cessationist? A cessationist is one who believes that the baptism of the Holy Spirit and gifts of the Spirit are now obsolete in our day – that God has changed and no longer functions through the gifts and power of His Holy Spirit. The cessationist is taught of men that the power, gifts, and spiritual blessings of God ended with the original apostles of Jesus and that believers in Jesus today have no need of these blessed divine gifts and the power of God Jesus instructed and sent us with. The cessationist denies the need for the LORD’s gifts and power here in this last hour, directly contrasting the history of the early church and the warning of Jesus that satanic power would be at an all-time high in the final days (2 Thessalonians 2:9-12; Revelation 12:12).

Concerning one cessationist, one author writes:

Pastor John MacArthur teaches the speaking of tongues by believers at Corinth was demonic. – *56. Truth About Speaking in Tongues – John MacArthur 1, T. 7:38-8:27. | Are Tongues Demonic? | John MacArthur Exposed

One writer notes:

“The fact is, John MacArthur’s doctrine of cessationism is not an ‘error’, as in a mistake. He is preaching what he knows is FALSE. He knows exactly what he is doing.”

Because of the deadness in the church, he teaches the believers in Corinth were deceived into feeling God by speaking in tongues. This is why he teaches the work of the Holy Spirit within the Charismatic movement is a counterfeit of Satan.

The night I prayed to be baptized in the Holy Spirit I had never seen anyone speak in tongues. Reaching out for some ecstatic experience was the furthest thing from my mind. I simply wanted more power to be a better witness for God. It’s true—especially in the past decade—admired teachers have deceptively introduced heresies within Pentecostal and Charismatic churches (2 Peter 2:1). This still doesn’t nullify the godly lives of over three hundred million Christians in the world that have been baptized in the Holy Spirit with the physical evidence of speaking in tongues (Acts 1:5; 2:4; 8:17; 10:46; 19:6).

For those who love the Lord and speak in tongues, I give this warning. The assault upon us for using the gift God has given us when we were baptized in the Holy Spirit, is intensifying. Pastors like MacArthur, Stanley, and Jeremiah are slandering the entire Pentecostal movement because of false teachers and heretics like Ken Copeland, Creflo Dollar, Benny Hinn, and Paul Crouch. Jesus warned us of this division within the body that would occur as we draw closer to the great tribulation.

The blood of the cross has already been shed as Jesus “spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it” (Colossians 2:15). Satan must hinder Christ’s people from reading, believing, and experiencing His power to “cast out devils” and be used of God in “the ministry of reconciliation” as His very “ambassadors” (2 Corinthians 5:17-20). The most powerful way the enemy can do this is by having his agents on the inside, posing as representatives of Christ, while robbing Christ of His glory and pilfering His divine power from His body in the earth.

For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works. – 2 Corinthians 11:13-15

Of this war against the divine power of the Holy Spirit, Randy Orris writes:

All these years of the Church history, the Enemy has masterminded an infiltration strategy: to have Christians enthusiastically embrace the counterfeit gospel, the false prophets and the sensual substitute … while actually rejecting the genuine Power and Gifts of the Holy Spirit which the Head of the Church gave to us and our children forever: “For the promise is UNTO YOU, and TO YOUR CHILDREN, to your children, and TO ALL THAT ARE AFAR OFF, even as many as the Lord our God shall call” (Acts 2:39).

The following verses are still in effect, and will be until Jesus comes:

And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will POUR OUT MY SPIRIT UPON ALL FLESH; and YOUR SONS AND DAUGHTERS shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions. – Joel 2:28

For THE GIFTS and THE CALLING OF GOD are WITHOUT repentance. – Romans 11:29,

We would not deny the LORD who purchased us—why would we deny the very gifts that He purchased for us … which are to glorify Him, and not us?”

There are many today who erroneously believe we only need God’s written Word and not His power and presence. Scripture contradicts such a notion. The kingdom of God is not in word, but in power” (1 Corinthians 4:20).

Our LORD Jesus said: “But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth (John 4:23-24).

Is “Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever” (Hebrews 13:8), or did the LORD lie to us in His Word? Has He changed? “For I am the Lord, I change not” (Malachi 3:6).

In order to control things themselves, the cessationist reduces his version of the gospel down to a set or a book of facts. But that very book—the Bible—contradicts that one who would erroneously suppose that the head knowledge of sound doctrine alone is necessary to walk with the LORD. Such a notion is not consistent with the earliest believers who, while biblically intensive and discerning, were also moved upon by the presence and power of God to preach, to love their enemies, to bring healing, to walk in God’s love with the brethren of Christ, to please the LORD, and to see divine miracles (Book of Acts). These who would teach some new program are not continuing “stedfastly in the apostles’ doctrine” (Acts 2:42).

New Testament Christianity involves walking with the LORD in the Holy Spirit and His power; not just learning the facts about God (Luke 24:49; Acts 1-2, etc.). “But ye shall receive power, AFTER that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth” (Acts 1:8).

HOW many people know that you and I have never once had the “problem” of having too much of the presence of the Holy Spirit in our personal lives?

Paul gave us Jesus’ one true Gospel and he stated: “And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man’s wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power(1 Corinthians 2:4).

Satan’s goal is to hinder Christ’s sacrifice from being fully effectual and realized in the lives of as many souls as possible. Remember, it is a grave error and extremely dangerous action to take away any part from God’s Word (Revelation 22:18-19). Changing in any way, the original Gospel program that was instituted and carried out by our LORD and His holy apostles, is a deadly undertaking.

Quench not the Spirit. 1 Thessalonians 5:19

The primary passage the cessationist uses in his lame attempt to peddle the evil, Spirit-quenching wares of God’s arch enemy, is the end of 1 Corinthians 13. He grossly reads into and distorts this passage for his own self-serving agenda (2 Peter 3:16). At the end of 1 Corinthians 13, Paul is simply contrasting the eternal nature of love and the temporal nature of the gifts of the Spirit. However, Paul never says anything to indicate the ceasing of those gifts until “that which is perfect is come.” Obviously, this will not be the case until we are actually with Him. “That which is perfect” is not yet come. We are not yet in glory.

Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away. For we know in part, and we prophesy in part. But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away. When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things. For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known. And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity. – 1 Corinthians 13:8-13

1 Corinthians 13 is purposely wedged between chapters 12 and 14 to establish that the “greatest” priority in God’s kingdom is “charity. He says nothing to remove the functioning of the gifts of the Holy Spirit here and now in this Church age. Yet, those eager to control the minds and lives of men use Paul’s words to dismiss the presence and work of the divine Person of the Holy Ghost. This is an insidious preoccupation, motivated by the enemy of Christ himself and perpetrated by Satan’s wolves to steal the glory and power from the LORD and His blessed people. To say that there is no Holy Ghost baptism or gifts of the Spirit is to call Christ’s apostle Paul a liar, and likewise the Holy Spirit who was inspiring his writings.

Paul introduced the Spirit’s gifts, as well as the proper order and usage of them, in chapters 12 and 14. Just because God says that charity is most important does not give any sinful man the license to try to remove HIS gifts. Attempting to do so is undiluted arrogance! Anyone participating in this should repent at once, cease leaning to his own understanding, and stop removing things from God’s Word (Revelation 22:18-19). Limiting God is a sin (Psalms 78:41). The denial of the work of the divine Person of the Holy Ghost in and among His people is a ploy of Satan to take glory (and control) from the LORD Himself and hand it over to mere sinful men who are venomous, thieving wolves. This is that doctrine and the deeds of the Nicolaitans which Jesus says He hates (Revelation 2:6, 15).

In 1 Corinthians 13, “that which is perfect” is clearly speaking of Heaven. To the cessationist, I would say: If you will read the 1 Corinthians 13 text and stop regurgitating the lies of the wolves you have been deceived by, the LORD will open your eyes. He is calling you to repent, and fear and serve God and not man. His “counsel” is the very “thoughts of his heart” and the very “lamp unto my feet, and light unto my path” (Psalms 33:11; 119:105).

Feigning to love, worship, and desire more of God while rejecting His clear counsel concerning being baptized in the Holy Ghost, is betrayal. Saying that intellectual knowledge of His Word is enough is rebellion. Paul said, “For the kingdom of God is not in word, but in power” (1 Corinthians 4:20). Jesus said we must worship Him not only in “truth” but “in spirit” (John 4:23-24). On this very note, Jesus told the false teachers of His day that they went into error for two reasons—they rejected the full-counsel of His Word and they rejected His divine power in their lives. “Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, NOR THE POWER of God” (Matthew 22:29).

To further illustrate this truth, one may wish to reflect upon the lives of Jesus, Paul and other apostles and New Testament saints. Were they just full of head knowledge? Is that all being a follower of Jesus consists of? Was not Christ and His apostles and servants active in casting out devils, healing the sick, laying hands on people, and doing other exploits for Jesus’ glory under the Spirit’s power? Well of course they were. When was the last time you read the book of Acts?

Even a child who reads the New Testament can witness a myriad of Gospel action. Do the Great Commission passages sound like Jesus was sending us forth to simply learn knowledge and theory, or is there a thrusting forth into Gospel work and action with the promise of His divine power being present to bless, heal, deliver, and bring forth the fruit of lives saved and made whole by Him? Let’s review what Jesus said:

And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, A l l p ow er is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen. – Matthew 28:18-20

Well, is it “the end of the world” yet? No! So, we know that Christ is still working in, through and with His true disciples today who go forth to preach His Gospel and teaching all men His Word.

And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover. So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God. And they went forth, and preached every where, the Lord working with them, and confirming the word with signs following. Amen. – Mark 16:15-20

“Signs” certainly do follow the preaching of His Word and the absence of such power and blessing is more evidence that His original Gospel, in its full-counsel, is not being set forth.

Now, we are not to seek signs. No. We are to seek the Savior and to obey Him fully and diligently as we dispense His truth unchanged from its original form as written in His Word.

Yet, why are these things not happening more often? Why are such signs, deliverances, and blessings seldom or never seen in today’s so-called “evangelical” church world? It’s simple: tradition-loving, Christ-denying modern Pharisees have long ago taken over the helm, stripping Christ, the only “Head” of His true body, of His blessed glory and power (Mark 7:6-10; Colossians 2:18-19).

The answer to the gross lack of divine power is obvious (Matthew 28:18-20; Mark 16:15-20). Believers know that communicating or preaching the Gospel message or Word of God is most important and yet, it is not our prerogative to diminish anything from the Commission of God (Deuteronomy 4:2; Jeremiah 26:2).

Please allow me to encourage you to dismiss the lies of the cessation beguilers and get deeply into God’s Word for yourself so that you rightly divide the Word of divine truth (2 Timothy 2:15). As you do this, the truth will be manifested in your heart.

Prayer: Blessed and holy Father, I love You. Imbue my life with Thy holy fear. LORD, please clean my heart and life of all unbelief, traditions of men, false notions, erroneous teachings, and all sin. I will trust and walk only in what You have clearly stated in Your Word LORD. Fill me afresh with Your Holy Spirit Father as I now surrender my life afresh to You in repentance and return wholly to You. In Jesus’ Name. Amen.

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Apostasy

Favorite Eternal Security “Proof” Text? [podcast]


Excerpt from the book Lie of the Ages

Does John 10:27-29 Prove “Eternal Security”?

WHO are Jesus’ Sheep? Defined by, in God’s Word.

John 10:27-29

My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father’s hand.” ~ John 10:27-29

Verse 27 is the condition necessary to appropriate the promises of verses 28-29.

Those who believe that a man can never lose his salvation, use this John 10:28-29 text but ignore the prerequisite, the divinely given condition – v27. Watch this:

Firstly, in this passage Jesus identifies those sheep whom He makes the security promise to. He says, “My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me.” In this we see one part divine and two parts the responsibility of the individual:

  • “I know them”—the divine part toward those who are truly in Christ, presently abiding (v. 27)
  • Those who are His sheep “hear” His “voice” and “follow” Him—the individual’s responsibility (v. 27)

The promise to be kept is a conditional promise which requires that we choose to continue to hear His voice and follow Him (John 10:27-29). Many today wrongly detach our LORD’s words in verse 27 from verses 28-29. In doing so, they perpetrate their “eternal security” mythology.

The problem for the eternal securists is that v27 has been intentionally been ignored…. It’s the actual condition Jesus gives for receiving the assurance promises He then gives in v28-29.

Those who seek to spread the “once saved always saved” heresy use John 10:28-29 to their advantage and conveniently ignore the preceding words of Christ in verse 27. Verses 28-29 are promises of security to those who have been genuinely born again and are currently abiding in Christ – hearing His voice and following Him (John 15:1-6). Many ignore the previous qualifying words (v. 27) of Jesus where Christ tells us that only those who are hearing His voice and following Him are promised that they are secure and will never perish. There is a condition to being secure in Christ—knowing Him—which requires continuing to abide in Him, hear His voice and follow Him (see also John 15).

“Jesus will neither leave us nor forsake us, but we can leave and forsake Him by choosing our sins OVER His love, grace and mercy!” Dino Filardo

Eternal securists have been taught to selectively interpret Scripture while ignoring mountains of Bible truth, in order to come to a predetermined conclusion.

Many a false teacher has built his own ministry empire dishonestly peddling this passage. Take a closer look. Anchor the promise to be kept in verses 28-29 on verse 27 where Jesus identifies who His sheep are – those who hear and continue to hear His voice and continue to follow Him (present tense). The promise to be kept is a glorious and yet conditional promise which requires that the individual recipient of the salvation gift of God chooses to continue to hear His voice and follow Him (John 10:27-29). Many today wrongly detach our LORD’s words in verse 27 from verses 28-29 of John 10. In doing so, they perpetrate their “eternal security” or otherwise called “once saved always saved” mythology. Beware as this was the first lie Satan told mankind, which led to the fall (Genesis 2:17; 3:4).

Instead of synthesizing the whole of Scripture, false teachers isolate certain verses for their own self-serving agenda and purpose (2 Corinthians 2:17, etc.).

The sheep Jesus’ promises are going to be kept are those who endure to the end, abide (remain) with Him (John 15:1-6). The Great Shepherd defines His sheep as those who are presently hearing His voice and following Him (present tense). John 10:27-29

It’s not difficult to mislead people in the direction of the sinful nature of their hearts – because then they can evade truly repenting which is a major life change and necessity for salvation. This is why Paul foretold of this hour and how men would “heap to themselves (false) teachers having itching ears.” (2 Timothy 4:3) “Itching ears” here represents unrepentant hearts.

OSAS people make a vain attempt at redefining the words of Scripture to fit their own self-serving agenda of lukewarmness, cross-less rebellion. For example they hyper-focus on “eternal” in the term “eternal life” while intentionally refusing to synthesize the whole of what Scripture states. They hyper-focus on the word “gift” and teach that a gift could never be lost which the rest of Scripture does not agree with. They then take the word “sealed” and make it to be permanent which it cannot possibly be because the same Greek word for “sealed” is used of Jesus’ tomb which we all know was NOT permanently sealed (Matthew 27:66). In this they bear false witness against the LORD and act like some Scriptures are more divinely inspired than others. This practice reveals the evil and deceit of their own hearts. Not just some Scripture in the Bible but rather “ALL scripture is given by inspiration of God…” (2 Timothy 3:16-17) It must all be synthesized, put together, compared (1 Corinthians 2:13). Error will result in the hearts and lives of those who do not search, study, and revere “ALL scripture” in God’s Word.

Eternal security deceivers don’t want to talk about Bible verses that contradict and expose their proof texts. You see, they don’t want to get awaken by the truth to the scam they’ve bought into. The wolves who they gullibly believe instead of God’s Word, taught them to cry “context, context” all while THEY are the beguilers who are taking Scripture out of context. Just like the demonic democrats in America, they accuse their adversaries of the exact thing THEY themselves are guilty of (Romans 2:1-3).

YOU are defending OSAS and yet you gave no Bible verses? Self-deception. If “once saved always saved” were true, WHY O WHY didn’t God tell us? Such a term, phrase, or concept appear no where in Scripture and the verses you use to “prove” it are taken out of their context. OSAS is undeniably the very first lie Satan ever told and it led to the fall of mankind from a HOLY God (Genesis 2:17; 3:4). If OSAS isn’t a doctrine of devils, nothing is! (1 Timothy 4:1-2)

Is the unchanging, Almighty God no longer “Holy, holy, holy” now that He sent His only begotten Son? (Isaiah 6:3; Revelation 4:8) If He’s still holy, no unrepentant person with sin will enter His holy Heaven (Revelation 21:8, 27, etc.).

“Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord:” Hebrews 12:14

HOW is it that so many treat the words of JESUS recorded in John 10 more divinely authoritative than the words of JESUS recorded in John 15? False teachers.

Most of the dupes who cite John 10:28-29 to “prove” they can never lose their salvation, 1. Don’t even know what the preceding verse says (v27), and 2. Have no clue what JESUS says in John 15:6.

“If a man abide (remain) not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.” John 15:6

In this John 10 passage used by the unconditional eternal security crew to peddle their wares, some neglect to look closely at verse 27 to see who Jesus was specifically speaking to when He promised “they shall never perish.” “They” refers to those who “hear my voice” and “follow me.” According to verse 27 the promise of eternal security is conditional. Assurance of salvation is only to those who are presently following Christ. In verse 27 we learn that protection from judgment to come is only to those who are currently 1) hearing His voice, 2) known by Him, and 3) following Him. This is consistent with the message seen in the whole of Holy Writ.

“For if AFTER they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are AGAIN entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. 21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, AFTER they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them. 22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit AGAIN; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.” 2 Peter 2:20-22 

WHO did Jesus say His true sheep are?

My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me” (Jn. 10:27). According to these words of Christ, those who “know” Jesus and “follow” Him are given the promise that they will “never perish.” As long as the follower hears His voice and follows Him, they are assured “eternal life.” This is exactly what the Son of God taught just a few chapters later in John 15 where He says that if a branch that is in Him does not remain or abide in Him, that person will be cut off and cast into the fire (hell).

Those who abide or remain under the shadow of His holy and protective wing shall remain secure in Him (Ps. 91:1). The Good Shepherd here said: “Neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.” No man can pluck us out of His protection except ourselves by our own decisions. We who are abiding are protected from the snare of other men drawing us away as we remain walking with the Son of God. If you’re tucked, you won’t get plucked. If you’re not tucked under the wing of intimacy with Jesus, you will, can, and are likely to be plucked out of His holy hand by your own sinful unbelief. The LORD told us “Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown” (Rev. 3:11).

It’s also notable that those who emphasize John 10 to convince themselves and others that they are “eternally secure”, don’t even know much less acknowledge the words of the Savior in John 15:1-6.

Telling.

“If a man abide (remain) not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.” John 15:6

Jesus taught repeatedly that some would not continue to follow Him (“abide”) and hear His voice and would consequently “fall away.” There is record of some who once believed and then stopped believing (Lk. 8:13; 13:23-30; Jn. 6:66; Acts 8:14-23).

Lie of the Ages (the book)

WHY do eternal securists get all upset when their fairy tale is exposed? Well, they are hiding behind the thin veneer of this heresy, feeling all secure, emboldened to live as they please, feeling assured in their lukewarmness and sin … denying Jesus instead of self, refusing to take up the cross that Jesus commanded all who would follow Him truly (Luke 9:23-24). Christ’s apostle Paul speaks of self-serving “enemies of the cross of Christ.” (Philippians 3:18-19) What’s behind this myth? The Psychology of Eternal Security [book]

Another Example of the Twisting of Scripture

The eternal securists seek to justify their OSAS heresy by misusing the following passage…. but in this Paul is speaking of those who go to Heaven, the judgment of saints, and not those who fell away and won’t be there because they will be in hell. They will not be present when this happens….

“Every man’s work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man’s work of what sort it is. 14 If any man’s work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. 15 If any man’s work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.” 1 Corinthians 3:13-15

One More….

Common Objection to Conditional Eternal Security….

“What about Romans 8:38-39 where it says nothing can separate us from the love of God?”

REPLY:

Simple: Notice the word LOVE not life. God will love us all the way into hell if we choose not to repent. His soul will even “weep in secret places for your pride” which comes before destruction (Jeremiah 13:17). The LORD is “Holy, holy, holy,” He’s just, and He will not ever coexist with sin. See the fall of lucifer (Isaiah 14:12-15; Ezekiel 28:13-19; Luke 10:18). The wages of sin is still death and the LORD will damn every soul that dies in sin, with no exception (Psalms 5:4; Habakkuk 1:13; Isaiah 6:3; Romans 6:23; Revelation 4:8; 21:8; 22:11, etc.). Read Jesus’s parable of the prodigal son Lk 15. Did the father love and miss his son? Yes. Did the father (represents God) go chase him down? No. The son who departed had to choose to return. Much truth there. Speaking of Romans, read 11:20-22. Now read 2 Peter 2:20-22 and the book of Hebrews.

1 John 2:19 is often also utilized to “prove” eternal security. Not.

“They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.” 1 John 2:19

Interestingly, the word “never” does not appear in this verse above which is so often used to “prove” OSAS. Let’s read it again with an objective mind. And, also remember what Jesus says about the primary importance of His teaching of the seed and the soil, the sower and the Word:

“And he said unto them, Know ye not this parable? and how then will ye know all parables?” Mark 4:13 

The honest student of the whole Counsel of God’s Word knows that numerous clear Bible truths reveal that a saved person can turn away from the LORD, so we know that the apostle John could not possibly be saying that a saved person could never depart from the LORD. In my opinion, this verse is the best argument the eternal security proponent has, yet it’s not enough. There must be two or three witnesses and not just one (2 Cor. 13:1). After a closer examination of this text, one will find that verse 19 does not teach or justify “once saved always saved.” When any one verse is taken to the exclusion of the whole Word of God, one will certainly misunderstand the doctrine of the LORD which can only be apprehended by “study.” (2 Tim. 2:15) This verse is like any other verse of Scripture – it must be taken in light of the entire Counsel of God. The context to be considered is 1 John 2:18-29).

In examining the context in which 1 John 2:19 is set, we see that false teachers whom John calls “many antichrists,” had come and were telling these believers that Jesus was not the Christ (v22).

Let’s look at verses 18 and 19 together:

“Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time. They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.” 1 John 2:18-19

Note here that it is specifically of these “antichrists” that John speaks and says that “if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.”

John was speaking of those who were once saved but then departed from the faith (1 Tim 4:1), they believed and then fell away (Luke 8:12-13) …. then departed from the believers in that fellowship.

Teddy Caldwell writes:

“OSAS insists that those are professing believers, but 1 John 2:18 says such people are antichrists. 1 John 2:22 says an antichrist is one who denies that Jesus is the Christ. Anyone who does that isn’t a believer and isn’t even trying to look like one.”

Concerning 1 John 2:19, Donald Stamps, in the Life in the Spirit Study Bible, writes:

“‘THEY WENT OUT FROM US.’ When the antichrists departed from their fellowship with true believers, they were not in a saving relationship with Christ. This allows for two possibilities: (1) They were never true believers to begin with, or (2) they had once been in a saving relationship with Christ but afterward abandoned their faith in Christ.”

Right here in verse 24 of this passage we see the doctrine of personal responsibility to “remain” in faithful obedience to the LORD or lose one’s place with God (1 Cor. 15:2; Gal. 6:9; Col. 1:23). This is a teaching found throughout Holy Writ – the divine requirement to stay saved or lose all in eternity, “suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.” (Jude 7)

“Let that therefore abide (remain) in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. IF (denotes condition) that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father. And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life.” 1 John 2:24-25

Verse 24 alone tells us that we cannot think that verse 19 means that someone who is at some point in right standing with God can never depart from Him and lose out. Also, verse 25 tells us that “eternal life” (not just rewards) is at stake and the promise contingent upon the believer abiding or remaining in that “which ye have heard from the beginning” which is the Gospel. “Eternal life” is assured as long as one is remaining rooted in Jesus Christ. This is the overwhelmingly consistent message of God’s Word.

In verse 26 John says “These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you.” Verse 19 is written about the deceivers who sought to “seduce” these disciples John was addressing and not of true believers.

With all of Scripture in consideration, we can conclude that 1 John 2:19 is a specific example and not a rule of doctrine.

If you truly wish to search out this matter, let me encourage you to closely examine, break down and study this entire text (1 Jn. 2:18-29). In order to ascertain truth, one must compare the verse in question with all other related Scriptures, beginning with the context in which the verse is set (Isa. 28:9-10; 1 Cor. 2:13).

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IF THE WORD isn’t flowing into you daily, you are falling away. Flood and fuel your heart and mind and body with the pure, the holy light of God’s Word daily and you will never famish! All darkness will be vanquished (Psalms 119:130). All who have been saved and yet aren’t in God’s Word and prayer daily – have rejected Christ, with no exception. Re-turn to the LORD prodigal. There’s no good outside of Christ the KING.

“The entrance of thy words giveth light; it giveth understanding unto the simple.” Psalms 119:130

ALL who are not in God’s written Word daily are not hearing from God, do not have God’s wisdom and direction, and are walking in darkness – 100%.

The feeding of Christ’s flock would integrally involve exhorting them to diligently study and walk in God’s Word themselves, daily (John 21:15-17). Isn’t this exactly what the apostle Paul told Timothy to do? Yes. He told his understudy to “Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.” (2 Timothy 2:15)

One of the ways we know who the false ministers are, is that they want people dependent on THEM, not God. So, they don’t constantly exhort the people to get into God’s Word, the Holy Scriptures, for themselves. Run.

“This book of the law shall not depart out of thy mouth; but thou shalt meditate therein day and night, that thou mayest observe to do according to all that is written therein: for then thou shalt make thy way prosperous, and then thou shalt have good success.” Joshua 1:8 

“He taught me also, and said unto me, Let thine heart retain my words: keep my commandments, and live. … My son, attend to my words; incline thine ear unto my sayings. 21 Let them not depart from thine eyes; keep them in the midst of thine heart. 22 For they are life unto those that find them, and health to all their flesh. 23 Keep thy heart with all diligence; for out of it are the issues of life. Proverbs 4:4, 20-23

“Thy words were found, and I did eat them; and thy word was unto me the joy and rejoicing of mine heart: for I am called by thy name, O LORD God of hosts.” Jeremiah 15:16

“Neither have I gone back from the commandment of his lips; I have esteemed the words of his mouth more than my necessary food.” Job 23:12

Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom; teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord.” Colossians 3:16

“Over the last 5-10 years I can see where He has done this for me already, but the problem is …. it’s not enough! I want even more! One hour of study and prayer in the morning is not enough!” Christine

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