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Does Going to a “Church” Building on Sunday Mornings Constitute True “Fellowship”?

“Man, are we the only ones that understand this. I’ve experienced the condemnation from other believers because I don’t go to church. I’ve literally tried, but I’m afraid it’s just that bad. The condition of the Church is that far gone. I know not all churches are like this. There are some good ones but I don’t live around any of them.” Jeff Thomas

“Ye are God’s building.” 1 Corinthians 3:9

WE are the church, the called out ones, is a better way of putting it. The “house” of the LORD has a much larger meaning than a designed “church” building, so called, usually run by wolves. The “house of the LORD” can refer to the presence of the LORD, not a physical meeting place.

“One thing have I desired of the LORD, that will I seek after; that I may dwell in the house of the LORD all the days of my life, to behold the beauty of the LORD, and to enquire in his temple.” Psalms 27:4

In Psalm 27, there is no mention of other people or a certain dwelling place other than it’s the LORD David sought.

Seems like from the next verse that in the whole of God’s creation, He can and should be worshipped:

“God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands;” Acts  17:24

“What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? 20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God’s.” 1 Corinthians 6:19-20 

JUST WHAT FRUIT HAS SUNDAY MORNING CHURCH ATTENDANCE PRODUCED OTHER THAN COUNTERFEITS?

  • Where’s the evangelism? (Mark 16:15)
  • Where’s the daily teaching and fellowshipping in the Word? (Matthew 28:18-20)
  • Where’s the crucified saints? (Luke 9:23-24)
  • Where’s those diligently preparing to meet the LORD? (Revelation 19:7-10)

The proof is in the fruit. WHAT has the modern “church” so called produced other than a generation of self-serving counterfeits, just as the Holy Ghost foretold in 2 Timothy 3:1-7. One born again saint put it this way:

“Refusing to sit under the false gospel, false doctrines, false teachers and wolves; is not forsaking the assembly.”

If the modern church is of God, is fulfilling God’s will, why is the fruit rotten?

  • Where is the message, the word, the divine command to “repent” ever heard in the modern church? Nearly never, right? Yet it is the first word, divine command of the original Gospel first preached by John the baptist, then Jesus, then the apostles (Matthew 3:2; 4:17; Luke 13:3; Acts 2:38; 3:19; 20:21, etc.).
  • Where is the message of the cross, the crucified life preached by Jesus and His holy apostles? (Luke 9:23-24; 2 Corinthians 1:9; 4:10-12; Romans 6; Galatians 2:20; 5:24; 6:14, etc.).
  • Where is the evangelism? (Mark 16:15; Book of Acts, etc.)

Evidence you’ve been indoctrinated into churchianity instead of Christianity:

  • If you raise your hands in “church” but not at home
  • If you behave one way at church and another way at home
  • If you read the Bible in church and don’t devour it at home, on a daily basis
  • If you pray in church and don’t live a life of prayer daily

The most authentic, fruitful cross-bearing disciples of Jesus I know, do not attend a “church” on Sunday mornings. No, they obey Jesus by follow Him “daily.”“And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross DAILY, and follow me. 24 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: but whosoever will lose his life for my sake, the same shall save it” (Luke 9:23-24).

Show me a Sunday morning “church” where the cross, the crucified life Jesus mandated is being taught all the time? No such thing. Case closed. False gospel. False “bibles.” False prophets.

Just because most pastors are false, in no way negates God’s mandate for each of His saints to fellowship daily with other believers (Acts 2:42-47; 5:42; Colossians 3:16; Hebrews 3:13; 10:25, etc.)!

Jon Crane writes:

“The church is also Acts 2:42-47. Where is the daily fellowship in these modern ‘church’ buildings? Where is the selling of their possessions (leadership and laity) and parting them to all men, as every man had need? Should not everything pertaining to the New Testament church be proclaimed?

Going once a week to a 501c3 state ‘church‘ to fund bigger buildings, bigger houses, luxury cars, private jets seems a bit Pharasaical.

Would I love to fellowship with true believers? Absolutely, and I do daily through social media and with a few in person. But, I will not be caught bidding godspeed to the mostly apostate church in America. 2 John 11

First repentance in the church (leadership), then perhaps God will restore the candlestick. Too many obeyed man rather than God in closing their doors, shaming Christ for fear of a virus, and showing the whole world what little faith they had and who really owned them! – the state! What Hypocrisy!

It is no wonder many did not return. Why would they seek any more help from such a place that had no real faith and obedience to man, not God who commanded His people to never cease fellowshipping!?”

Many who leave the organized apostate “church” do so, not because they are abandoning the faith but rather because they want to preserve their faith. We were told that in this last hour “evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse” and that “MANY false prophets shall arise and shall deceive MANY” (2 Timothy 3:13; Matthew 24:11). So this truth of the remnant departing from the false prophets and false gospel and the “accursed” peddlers of it, should be no surprise.

“I have witnessed this apostay in the local church for over 30 years.” Thomas Cochran

Is it a sin to go to a place of fellowship on Sundays? No. Yet such is not an essential to salvation and to make it such is to err, is to miss the point of Scripture, is to overemphasize something the LORD never emphasized. True fellowship among the brethren is what matters, not the place or physical building. Jesus preached to the 5,000 men, right? WHERE? In the desert (John 6).

It’s the wolves of the modern church who indoctrinate people to believe that THEIR little mortgaged “church building” is the divinely designated “holy” place to be on Sunday mornings. Nonsense. Sounds pretty Catholic actually.

WHERE you fellowship or WHEN you fellowship is not an essential. The biblical nature and quality of the fellowship is what matters to God. No where does the Bible dictate that true fellowship MUST take place in a certain designated official “church” building. Fellowship is what is emphasized and not the day or location. Isn’t that what Jesus made clear when speaking to the woman at the well in John 4 when the woman sought to make worship about a geographical location? Yes.

“Our fathers worshipped in this mountain; and ye say, that in Jerusalem is the place where men ought to worship. 21 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father. 22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews. 23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. 24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.” John 4:20-24

There is no stated necessity in the Scriptures to be at a certain church building on sunday mornings. Nowhere. Actually it’s the wolves who misuse Hebrews 10:25 for their own self-serving agenda while they refuse to truly teach the WORD and watch for the souls of the saints (Hebrews 13:7, 17). Therefore they do not qualify to be submitted to.

Does the Word Instruct Christ’s Disciples to Assemble? Yes.

“Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.” Hebrews 10:25

The earliest followers of Jesus didn’t wait till Sunday morning. That’s lame, right? Selah. No, they couldn’t get enough of Christ and so they gathered “daily” in the temple (Jewish and yet they were run out before long) and “house to house” (Acts 2:42-47; 5:42).

The “house” of God is the people of God, not a physical building or gathering at a certain time in a certain building.

To further develop this point, let us ask whether or not a penny was ever collected to build an official “church” building. The answer is No.

Good day saints. The Word never instructs God’s people to go to church but rather to assemble, to serve the LORD daily and to fellowship daily according to the simple biblical model, right (Hebrews 10:25)? I don’t think we could find 5 church goers who could give the Bible definition of true fellowship.

Personally, upon beginning to uncover these truths, I ceased telling anyone to go find a church, or to go to church…. and that’s due to the “MANY false prophets” we were often warned about, and most of what there is “manning” the pulpits of America’s apostate “churches,” which are more like entertainment centers, circuses with clowns conducting their so-called “services” (Matthew 24:11; 2 Timothy 3:13; 4:2-4). Of course there are still a very few who are in the truth – and use the real Bible, the King James Bible, etc. Very few. New “bibles” are all fake and the presence of such spells, equals apostasy (Revelation 22:18-19). The remnant are learning to feed themselves and those around them, worship God daily, equip the flock, and communicate the Word (Colossians 3:16). They don’t need a designated building to attend and put on a religious act. Sorry but that’s usually what it turns into. Sound like what Jesus told the false religionists of His day? Monkey see. Monkey do.

“Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.” Matthew 23:15

The authentic remnant elect of Christ do not patronize false leaders. Refusing to sit under, condone, bid Godspeed to the false gospel, false doctrines, false teachers and wolves of the modern church … is not forsaking the assembly! Instead, it’s obedience to God who mandates that we “mark them” and “earnestly contend for the faith” against them, and warns us that anyone who bids Godspeed to them will be punished with them (Romans 16:17-18; Jude 3; 2 John 2:10-11).

“But exhort one another DAILY (not weekly), while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin.” Hebrews 3:13

True elders, pastors, etc., do NOT need a certain official so-called “church” building to conduct themselves as overseers. When Peter speaks of and to overseers in 1 Peter 5:1-6, there is no mention of a designated church building. That’s because it’s all about THE CHURCH, that is, the PEOPLE of God and not meeting weekly in a certain building.

“For we are labourers together with God: ye are God’s husbandry, ye are God’s building… 16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? 17 If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.”  1 Corinthians 3:9, 16-17

PRAYER: Father, in the name of Jesus, please teach us Your way – Your Word. Establish us in You, rooted and grounded in Christ. Bless us to discern between truth and half-truth lies. Wash me clean from all my sin – at the forefront of which is pride, selfishness, self-idolatry, rebellion, and lawlessness. I love You LORD Jesus. Please have Your way in me. In Jesus’ name. Amen.

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The Name and Witness of Jesus Christ [podcast]


“Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.” Acts 4:12

“Also I say unto you, Whosoever shall confess me before men, him shall the Son of man also confess before the angels of God: 9 But he that denieth me before men shall be denied before the angels of God.” Luke 12:8-9

“He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.”  1 John 5:10

“But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:”  1 Peter 3:15

YOUR PRAYER: Holy Father, please sanctify my life unto Thee. Make me holy as You are holy. Please separate me and use me for Your eternal glory LORD Jesus. May Your life shine greater in and through this vessel dear LORD. I love You Jesus and right this instant commend, submit my spirit, my whole being into Thy holy hands. In Jesus’ name.

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The Daily Cross in Prayer [podcast]


Prayer is inseparably connected with knowing God (John 17:3).

(Excerpt from the book I Die Daily)

“My voice shalt thou hear in the morning, O LORD; in the morning will I direct my prayer unto thee, and will look up.” Psalms 5:3

Let’s isolate and dismantle these words of God a bit. Under the direct inspiration of the Holy Spirit, David says to the LORD:

  • That He (God) would hear his (David’s) “voice”
  • That “in the morning” the Psalmist would arise and seek God in prayer
  • Deliberately “in the morning,” he would “direct” his prayer and praying to the LORD – “in the morning … I will look up”

From this passage, we see that David planned or scheduled, in an intentional and calculated fashion, to meet with the LORD every morning. The phrase “in the morning” appears twice in this inspired transmission of the Holy Ghost. The man whose heart panted after the LORD – to behold His precious beauty – declared that he would “direct” (point) his prayer upward to the LORD “in the morning.” (Ps. 5:3; 27:4; Acts 13:22) Communing with the LORD was priority to David, and therefore occupied first place in his daily life. He sought the LORD firstly as he arose from sleep, and before he went forth into his day.

Jesus commanded that if any person will come after Him – truly follow Him – he must deny himself, take up his cross, and follow Him (Luke. 9:23-24). There is no place that the cross applies more than in daily prayer. The moment one arises, he will choose either to seek God or dwell upon self-sentiments and such. He will seek Christ, or he will seek his own salvation or rescue from his troubles. We all make a “daily” choice:

“… choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD.” Joshua 24:15

No different from those covenant saints the LORD spoke to in this important passage, those whom we dwell among are serving self – the flesh – and yet we are called upon by the LORD to “choose” to daily serve Him rather than self. We are called to “be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world; Holding forth the word of life.” (Phil. 2:15-16)

The LORD is calling us to purposefully declare Him as the LORD and Master of our lives, and this we do by making the premeditated decision to seek Him daily in prayer communion. Like Joshua, the way we “choose” to “serve” God must be premeditated, deliberate, daily, and in practicality. Daily, early morning, first fruit prayer is all three of these. It is the fruit of the crucified life – the life that is dead to self and in whom Christ dwells and reigns. – “Ye are dead and your life is hid with Christ in God.” (Col. 3:3)

To those who seek God and not their own devices, there are many benefits (Ps. 68:19).

“Be careful for nothing; but in every thing by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known unto God. And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus.” Philippians 4:6-7

The precious peace of the “Prince of Peace” rules and reigns and makes sound the hearts of those who deny self’s ability to overcome and solve issues and problems, and instead earnestly and diligently rely upon God’s power to do such for them (Isa. 9:6; 26:3).

“Thou wilt keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on thee: because he trusteth in thee. Trust ye in the LORD for ever: for in the LORD JEHOVAH is everlasting strength.” Isaiah 26:3-4

As we fix our whole being upon Jesus Christ, our thoughts will be upward to His “glorious high throne,” which is “the place of our sanctuary.” (Jer. 17:12)

God is calling each of His saints to give his whole being to Christ, and to those things that “are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things” (Php. 4:8).

So, according to Philippians 4:6-8, saints are to rely upon the LORD and not self by submitting all their requests in prayer to Him who is their Source, and to think upon those things of Christ which are “true … honest … just … pure … lovely … of good report … if there be any virtue … if there be any praise.” It is upon “these things” that we are instructed to “think on.” (Phil. 4:8)

God’s thoughts are infinitely higher than ours, and yet it is not until we become truly “crucified with Christ” that we are going to be ruled by His thoughts and peace (Isa. 55:8-9; Gal. 2:20; Phil. 4:6-7).

Changing the way one thinks is being done by millions of people who are not regenerated (not born again). New age and religious teachers hold this thought transformation teaching closely. Anyone can change the way they think for self-serving reasons – to stop smoking, to visualize and earn more money, to have more self-esteem, etc. However, hell still awaits all who are not born again, and that takes facing the living God and Judge in repentance for sin and placing all faith in Jesus Christ, the only Savior (Acts 4:12; 1 Tim. 2:5). The only renewing of the mind and thoughts that brings glory to Jesus Christ, is that which begins with one casting his whole being upon the LORD afresh – presenting himself a “living sacrifice … unto God.” Let’s look at Romans 12:

“I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service. And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.” Romans 12:1-2

Those who are presenting their bodies to the LORD as “living sacrifice(s)” are infused and enabled by His grace to keep their minds or thoughts stayed (fixed) upon the LORD and not self, as they look for Jesus’ soon return (Col. 3:1-4). They trust Christ and not their own strength, reasoning, whims, philosophies, or wisdom. As they give themselves over to Christ and His infinite divine power, and become weak in self and self’s abilities, Jesus’ power raises them up to trust Him and rely upon Him alone – to rest the weight of their whole beings in Him who is able. They first declare that they are not able, and that only “God is able.” (Eph. 3:20; 2 Cor. 9:8) These are they who have and are finding out in a personal way that there really is nothing impossible with the LORD!

“And Jesus looking upon them saith, With men it is impossible, but not with God: for with God all things are possible.” Mark 10:27

Abraham trusted God. He is our human example of a man who walked with God – by faith believing that God would raise up that to which he died. Concerning the promise of a son being born to him and his aged wife, the Bible records these words from the LORD to His servant Abraham:

“Is any thing too hard for the LORD? At the time appointed I will return unto thee, according to the time of life, and Sarah shall have a son.” Genesis 18:14

If God can and will split the Red Sea for His people, and cause a 100-year-old man and his 90-year-old wife to have a child, what in your life can’t He do? (Gen. 17:17)

Here’s yet another question posed to our hearts from the LORD:

“Behold, I am the LORD, the God of all flesh: is there any thing too hard for me?” Jeremiah 32:27

God requires that we die to self-will, self-help, and self-esteem, and lay our lives in His holy, perfect, and more-than-sufficient hands. He can then work in us and in our lives – raising up His holy standard and power to glorify Himself in and through His children. Nothing will be impossible for the LORD to perform in the lives of those who deny themselves and, like Abraham, trust God to raise up His solutions, answers, and blessings to bring Himself glory.

“(As it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations,) before him whom he believed, even God, who quickeneth (makes alive) the dead, and (God) calleth those things which be not as though they were.” Romans 4:17

God called forth Isaac out of Abraham’s loins when it was an otherwise impossibility in the natural. In your life, beloved, “Is there anything too hard for the LORD?” (Gen. 18:14)

Our connection with God is all about relationship, and the quality of that relationship is exemplified in our prayer lives – or lack thereof. If a person is pursuing the LORD, he has a prayer life. He lays down his own desires and life and seeks God’s life. This is perhaps in no other scrutiny seen more clearly than in the value he assigns to his prayer life, and the heart affections and time he is willing to invest in it.

In Psalms 63, the Psalmist captures the life of the person who truly has a heart after God.

“O God, thou art my God; early will I seek thee: my soul thirsteth for thee, my flesh longeth for thee in a dry and thirsty land, where no water is; To see thy power and thy glory, so as I have seen thee in the sanctuary. Because thy lovingkindness is better than life, my lips shall praise thee. Thus will I bless thee while I live: I will lift up my hands in thy name. My soul shall be satisfied as with marrow and fatness; and my mouth shall praise thee with joyful lips: When I remember thee upon my bed, and meditate on thee in the night watches. Because thou hast been my help, therefore in the shadow of thy wings will I rejoice. My soul followeth hard after thee: thy right hand upholdeth me.” Psalms 63:1-8

The following is an excerpt from My Utmost for His Highest, by Oswald Chambers:

“’At that day ye shall ask in My name.’ John 16:26.  We are too much given to thinking of the Cross as something we have to get through; we get through it only in order to get into it. The Cross stands for one thing only for us – a complete and entire and absolute identification with the Lord Jesus Christ, and there is nothing in which this identification is realized more than in prayer.

‘Your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, before ye ask Him.’ Then why ask? The idea of prayer is not in order to get answers from God; prayer is perfect and complete oneness with God. If we pray because we want answers, we will get huffed with God. The answers come every time, but not always in the way we expect, and our spiritual huff shows a refusal to identify ourselves with Our Lord in prayer. We are not here to prove God answers prayer; we are here to be living monuments of God’s grace.

‘I say not that I will pray the Father for you: for the Father Himself loveth you.’ Have you reached such an intimacy with God that the Lord Jesus Christ’s life of prayer is the only explanation of your life of prayer? Has Our Lord’s vicarious life become your vital life? ‘At that day’ you will be so identified with Jesus that there will be no distinction.

When prayer seems to be unanswered, beware of trying to fix the blame on someone else. That is always a snare of Satan. You will find there is a reason which is a deep instruction to you, not to anyone else.”

PRAYER: Father, please bless this life to honor You and Your will first and foremost in this life You have granted, by my being authentically crucified with Christ. Please unite my heart to fear Your holy name and to number with wisdom this short time on this earth as a gift from You. I love You, Jesus, and thank You for dying for my sins and for the resurrection power of the Holy Ghost You placed in us upon salvation, and the infilling of the Holy Spirit. You must increase but I must decrease. This moment, if never before, I declare and deliberately decide to place You first daily in my life – I am crucified with Christ. Early will I seek Thee. In Jesus’ name. Amen.

Capture Points

  • Discuss Psalms 5:3 along with Mark 1:35 and the importance of daily and first fruits prayer in the life of every disciple of Jesus.
  • Transcribe onto an index card and discuss Romans 12:1-2 (KJB recommended).
  • Write out on an index card Mark 10:27: “And Jesus looking upon them saith, With men it is impossible, but not with God: for with God all things are possible.” (KJB)

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The Joy of God’s Word [podcast]


“Thy words were found, and I did eat them; and thy word was unto me the joy and rejoicing of mine heart: for I am called by thy name, O LORD God of hosts.” Jeremiah 15:16

“Thou through thy commandments hast made me wiser than mine enemies: for they are ever with me.” Psalms 119:89

“So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.” Isaiah 55:11

PRAYER: Heavenly Father please match and exceed every trial You allow me to go through with Your joy! For You said that the joy of the LORD is my strength! In Jesus’ name. Amen.

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