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Is teaching the Biblical truth that backsliders forfeit salvation a works-righteousness doctrine?

MESSAGE RECEIVED:

Anybody teaching a theology of losing salvation is teaching law based salvation. And it’s a lie from the evil one. On one side of their mouth they are saying we are saved by faith, on the other side of their mouth they are saying we maintain it by works. That’s double-talk.

If salvation were maintained by works then it wouldn’t be a gift. It wouldn’t be by faith. And that kind of teaching is no different than all the fake religions of the world. Fake religions that require you to earn salvation through human effort.

To teach losing salvation is to reject the grace of God. And if we could keep our salvation through human effort then why in the world did Jesus go to the cross?

[Galatians 2:21] “I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.”

REPLY:

No, anyone teaching the doctrine of lawless lasciviousness, better known as “once saved always saved” or “eternal security” is clearly identified as a false teacher who is “turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness (license for sin).” (Jude 4)

Notice how you used just one Bible verse and you took it out of context.

Righteousness comes by Christ, not law, or law-keeping (Galatians 2:21). This in no way negates that God chose to place conditions on His salvation and He didn’t need your puny opinion on the matter. As a typical of OSAS dupe, you selectively use and you selectively, deliberately ignore Bible verses as they fit your doctrine of devils. Note how the Galatian saints had “fallen from grace” and so by this we know such is possible – it’s possible to fall from grace after being saved by it.

“Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.” Galatians 5:4

Jesus says that someone who believes and is saved can then afterwards “fall away.” (Luke 8:13) Jesus also says, speaking of those “in me” that they will be cast into the fire if they do not “abide” in Him, which means to remain (John 15:6). Paul said that if believers don’t continue in the goodness of God, they will receive the “severity” of His judgment and be “cut off.” (Romans 11:20-22)

You are falsely equating an abiding relationship with Jesus with law-keeping. The whole reason the Father sent His only begotten Son was to procure a RELATIONSHIP with those who choose to repent and be saved (conditions).

“And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.” John 17:3

You are so busy seeking to “free” yourself and others from any semblance of personal responsibility, that you say nothing about the relationship God sent His Son to procure between Himself and His people – a relationship of knowing and abiding in Christ. It seems that to you it’s all about the freedom to live lawless, for the god of self as you parade a mere “form of godliness” while you are “denying the power (authority) thereof.” (2 Timothy 3:1-7) Denying the authority of God in one’s life means denying the cross, refusing to die to self so He can reign, refusing to truly submit your life to the One who bled to save you.

Just because God gave a gift in no way means that gift can’t be forfeited. You’ve redefined the terms to perpetrate this heresy.

Just because God saves by grace in no way means that grace changed His definition of sin, nor does it mean there’s nothing required of the recipient, initially and ongoing.

Saving faith is more than just lip service. Though Christ alone saves those who repent and believe upon Him, such a saving faith is defined by Scripture and demonic faith is also defined in Holy writ.

“Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone. 18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works. 19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. 20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?” James 2:17-20

Fruit, works do not save and yet good fruit, good works are without fail evidenced in the lives of all who are known of God.

“They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.” Titus 1:16

Since the LORD is the author of salvation, HE’s the only one who can set the parameters, the conditions. An honest reading of the New Testament Scriptures, without the imposed heresies of false teachers, will never yield and “once saved always saved” conclusion.

Righteousness does not come by law-keeping and yet, according to the testimony of the New Testament, righteousness only comes by knowing and remaining in relationship with the only ONE who kept the law perfectly and expired it for righteousness (Romans 10:4). You say nothing of relationship and that’s because you are serving your own belly, not interested in knowing, loving, worshiping, and joyfully obeying Jesus. You simply want to use the Son of God to get you out of hell but are not interested in having a real, actually relationship with Him. That’s what He means by “abide.” (John 15)

If you really loved Jesus, you’d delight to keep His words, which are not grievous to those who truly know Him (1 John 5:3).

“If ye love me, keep my commandments.” John 14:15

Jesus told us exactly who loves Him and to whom He will reveal Himself to:

“He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.” John 14:21

“He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. 5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him. 6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.” 1 John 2:4-5

What is it that you don’t like about a real relationship with the Savior you falsely claim to know and love? Are you afraid you’ll have to truly repent, obey, and bring forth fruits that prove you’ve repented? (Matthew 3:7-10; Titus 1:16).

You talk about being saved by grace and yet, you refuse to acknowledge the following grace passage – because it ruins your license for sin, lascivious agenda:

“For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, 12 Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;” Titus 2:11-12

The believer’s place with God is kept by abiding in Christ, not law-keeping (John 15:1-6). And Jesus says those “in me” can choose not to “abide” or remain in Him and if they choose to not remain in Him they will be “cast … into the fire, and they are burned.” (John 15:6)

“If a man abide (continue) not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.” John 15:6

You demonically, rebelliously insist that ANY conditions GOD HIMSELF puts on the saved, is law-keeping, works-righteousness. The reason you do this is because you’re not repentant and your whole life revolves around you, the false god of self. This is why you will ignore mountains of Scripture truth to promulgate your eternal security fairy tail (Mark 7:6-9, 13).

The lawless heart is unrepentant and hates, despises the biblical truth that God 1. requires repentance and faith to initially save a person (Acts 20:21), and 2. He also requires that the saved person endures to the end of his life in an abiding relationship with Him (John 15:1-6).

OSAS is the message of Satan (Genesis 2:17; 3:4) and the false prophets (Jeremiah 23:17; Jude 4, etc.).

Jude warned of the “ungodly men” who would peddle their perverted grace, the very lie of “Lasciviousness” – a perverted grace (see Jer. 23:17)….. “Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints. 4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.” Jude 1:3-4 (KJV)

Jer 5:31; 23:17 …. they love the feeling of “security” but it’s a false security. They hate the idea of personal responsibility and refuse it!!! They love their “ease” and self-serving, Christ-rejecting lifestyle. They have a mere “form(ula) of godliness” but “deny the ower (reign)” of Christ in their daily lives (Luke 9:23-24; 2 Timothy 3:1-7). They want Heaven but not Jesus and will be cast into hell. God cannot be mocked (Galatians 6:7-8).

Saving grace always produces good fruit and good works and is proof one is saved – BUT good works and good fruit save no one – only Jesus can do that. Saving faith, without fail, produces the fruit of a holy life. See Matthew 3:7-10; Jude 3-4 and Titus 2:11-12.

According to the New Testament record, authentic saving faith is NOT un-forfeitable, but rather can be:

“Cast off” – 1 Timothy 5:11-12
“Put away” and “Made shipwreck” of – 1 Timothy 1:19
“Denied” – Revelation 2:13
“Denied” – 1 Timothy 5:8
Departed from – 1 Timothy 4:1
Failed – Luke 22:32
Overthrown – 2 Timothy 2:18
“Erred from” – 1 Timothy 6:10
“Erred” from – 1 Timothy 6:21
Fallen Away from: One can “fall away” from his believing/saving faith and be lost “again” – Luke 8:13; 15

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Is this not kin to the prayer Christ’s disciples prayed to Him—“And the apostles said unto the Lord, Increase our faith” (Luke 17:5) ?

Some ask “Lord, how can I increase MY faith?”

Read that again.

It’s not how I can increase my faith! No. That is all self-centered. We pray as did the apostles, “Lord, Increase our faith.” In other words, You do it please dear LORD!

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Another person commenting on this text writes:

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LET’S PRAY: Holy Father, we come to You now, because we know You are our Source for all blessings and answered prayer. Yet, we lack faith and ask You now to “Increase our faith” and to “help thou mine unbelief.” Please fill in dear LORD where we lack, where we are weak. We know You are all powerful, loving, and desire to and are ready to answer our prayers. In Jesus’ name. Amen.

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16 For though I preach the gospel, I have nothing to glory of: for necessity is laid upon me; yea, woe is unto me, if I preach not the gospel!

17 For if I do this thing willingly, I have a reward: but if against my will, a dispensation of the gospel is committed unto me.

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