12 Not 11
It is undeniable that Jesus chose Judas and that Judas was in right relationship with the Son of God, was sent out by Jesus to do His ministry work, and was promised an eternal throne in Heaven. Let’s talk about it.
“Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you TWELVE, and one of you is a devil? 71 He spake of Judas Iscariot the son of Simon: for he it was that should betray him, being one of the twelve.” John 6:70-71
“Have not I chosen you TWELVE” – Did Jesus choose a devil and send him to do His ministry OR did Judas choose after he was chosen by Christ to turn against Christ? The answer is obvious.
Judas was 1 of the 12. Judas was chosen by Jesus to the highest office in the church. Though he later turn against and betrayed Jesus, Judas holds the distinction as being one of the twelve original apostles of Christ!
It is undeniably on record that Jesus Christ promised Judas an eternal throne in Heaven.
“And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon TWELVE (not 11) thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.” Matthew 19:28
Was Judas one of the twelve original apostles of Jesus Christ? It is irrefutable that the Son of God promised his “twelve,” not eleven, eternal thrones in His heavenly kingdom. Judas, who was one of the “twelve,” was promised an eternal throne, yet “by transgression” fell and went to hell. Judas kissed the very Gate of Heaven, and turned and went to hell, given over to and driven by demons he ended his own life.
Judas was chosen by Christ Himself as one of His very twelve, yet Judas wasn’t hell-proof. Judas wasn’t “once saved always saved.” Judas was not given a spiritual asbestos suit. It is undeniably on record that Jesus Christ promised Judas an eternal throne in Heaven and so, the OSAS-er and calvinist are dead wrong to believe Judas was never a true child of God. Jesus chose him to the highest office in the church and told him he’d be in Heaven (Matthew 19:28). God’s promises are conditional. Judas chose to rebel and the promise was revoked as it was for Israel and many others throughout biblical history, beginning with Lucifer.
Judas is now in hell and yet was once a disciple of Christ – promised by the Son of God an ETERNAL throne in Heaven (Matt. 19:28). Judas was once in grace but not always in grace.
In Matthew 19:28 Jesus was at that moment speaking to Judas, not his replacement, and the Son of God clearly promised Judas an eternal throne. Christ promised him an eternal throne and Jesus also required that His original 12 and also all who follow Him, endure to the end or be lost (Matt. 10:22; 24:13). “Then said Jesus unto his disciples … Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon TWELVE thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.” (Matt. 19:23, 28)
Judas was one of Jesus’ hand-selected “twelve” and so Judas was included in this promise. So, to say Judas was not saved and promised eternal security – a very throne in Heaven with Jesus – is to say that Jesus lied. It is also to say that God can’t break His promise if someone rebels.
Judas kissed the gate of Heaven Himself then turned and denied and betrayed Him. He made choice as God has given all men choice. That ability to choose does not end after He finds and saves us (Deut. 30:19; Josh. 24:15; Isa. 1:19-20; Rom. 6:16, Gal. 6:6-8; James 1:13-15; Rev. 22:17, etc.).
In Matthew 10 the very Son of God sends Judas and the other eleven forth to preach His Gospel, to heal the sick, open blinded eyes, and to cast out devils and do His ministry work, then He tells them that only those who endure to the end (remain faithful to Him to the end of their lives) will be saved (Matt. 10:1-22). Jesus sent Judas to cast out devils which can only be done by the Holy Spirit of God indwelling a person, further proving Judas Iscariot was right with God till he turned away (Matt. 10:1-8; 12:22-29).
As we see in the life of Judas, there is a qualification to the promise of God, initial and continual faith – “to the end.”
Did Christ pray all night and knowingly bring an evil man (Judas) into His ministry? Or, did Judas become evil by choosing not to love and obey Christ and to rebel and live in sin? The answer is obvious to the honest and noble student of Holy Scripture. As is the obvious case with all human beings, Judas retained the choice to go on serving or not serving God with his whole heart (Deut. 30:19-20; Joshua 24:15; Isa. 1:18-20).
Jesus sent Judas to preach His Word and to cast out devils and Judas was a heathen? (Matthew 10:1-8) Lame excuse. Nothing could be clearer than the historically documented fact that Judas had free will, was chosen by the Son of God, set apart and sent to do ministry for Jesus and then fell away by his own sin which he had free will to commit (Acts 1:25; James 1:13-15).
“Ye Are Clean, But Not All”
In John 13, we are given insight into the differences between Peter and Judas. Such is a fascinating study and lesson. The differentiation between what both of these men chose to do holds eternal consequences. We must not miss this eternal distinction! Though both were equally divinely chosen as part of the original twelve, Peter chose to be humble, teachable and obedient while Judas chose to be prideful, unteachable and disobedient. Peter wisely elected to answer the call of Christ to be initially and perpetually washed of his sins which sustained His relationship with Jesus – “Simon Peter saith unto him, Lord, not my feet only, but also my hands and my head.” Peter possessed genuine saving faith which manifested in obedience to Christ. Unlike Judas, the one Christ refers to here when He asserts “but not all (are washed),” Peter answered the LORD’s call to be washed initially and continually. Could this not be said to be the difference between Peter and Judas? Is this not the reason that only one of these two men is in Heaven and the other is in eternal damnation?
“Not all (are washed)” – as it was among the original twelve, so it is today in the church. Some have been initially washed and remain washed to this hour, yet some who were initially washed are not submitting to the Lordship of Jesus and are not receiving His ongoing washings from their sins. Do you wash your clothes only one time? No, you buy that article of clothing and then you wash it. You then wash it repeatedly after wearing it – to keep it clean and ready for use. Right?
“…Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it; That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word, That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.” Ephesians 5:25-27
Why did Jesus give His very life for His Bride? “That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot (stains of sin)…but that it should be holy and without blemish.”
God wants His children “without blemish” and such is only possible by humbly submitting our lives to the LORD to be cleansed.
Through the preponderance of data available to us in Holy Writ, it must be concluded that this villainous character named Judas, was chosen and chose to be initially elected and initially washed by Christ, yet did not (like Peter) choose to be perpetually washed and cleansed by Jesus.
“He (Christ) riseth from supper, and laid aside his garments; and took a towel, and girded himself. After that he poureth water into a basin, and began to wash the disciples’ feet, and to wipe them with the towel wherewith he was girded. Then cometh he to Simon Peter: and Peter saith unto him, Lord, dost thou wash (clean) my feet? Jesus answered and said unto him, What I do thou knowest not now; but thou shalt know hereafter. Peter saith unto him, Thou shalt never wash my feet. Jesus answered him, If I wash thee not, thou hast no part with me. Simon Peter saith unto him, Lord, not my feet only, but also my hands and my head. Jesus saith to him, He that is washed needeth not save to wash his feet, but is clean every whit: and ye are clean, but not all.” John 13:4-10
“If I wash thee not, thou hast no part with me.” – Did you hear the definitive nature of Jesus’ words here? Christ speaks of initial and perpetual washings. Peter is no different than each and every child of God – we need to be initially and continually cleansed of our sins. This cleansing must be willingly submitted to and is not an automatic process as we see here with the reference to Judas – “ye are clean, but not all.” Eleven of the twelve original apostles of Christ elected to be initially and perpetually washed by the Master sin cleanser. One didn’t.
By nature a bride prepares herself for her bridegroom. As we behold in this very important passage in John 13, Jesus Christ is the initial and perpetual cleanser of our hearts, hands and feet. In Scripture, clean hands and feet speak of asking and receiving washings from the sins we commit with the members of our bodies (transgressions). See Psalms 24 and Romans 6. First and foremost, we must be apprehended by Him, receiving “the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Ghost.” (Titus 3:4-7) As Peter learned and we are taught here, in John 13, every child who is initially washed, must then submit to the Lordship of the Washer in order to “abide” in relationship with Him (Jn. 15). As Peter learned, so the Bride of Christ must learn to rejoice in and be perpetually washed by Christ’s precious and holy blood and “the washing of water by the word.” (Eph. 5:26)
According to 1 John 1:7, we can know when we are walking in His light as we are being honest towards Him who sees all, and humbly acknowledging (not hiding in darkness) our sins and experiencing the ongoing cleansing of His precious blood. By this unspeakable gift we have clear conscience and are enabled by His grace to serve Him with no consciousness of sin! See Hebrews 9:14 and rejoice! What a gift the divine blood has procured for all New Covenant saints! Dare we not appropriate such blessed benefits? – “forget not all his benefits.” (Ps. 103:2)
“Jesus answered and said unto him, What I do thou knowest not now (do not yet understand); but thou shalt know hereafter.” (Jn. 13:7) “Hereafter” or here forward and after you have walked in (been obedient to) what I am showing you here, you will understand. Those who choose to live in obedience to Christ are the ones He chooses to give understanding. In the divine economy, we must first obey in order to be granted understanding. “Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me. If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine…” (Jn. 7:16-17)
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MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“Was Judas saved or not in your opinion? I don’t know of anyone who has ever claimed that he was saved. So did Jesus lie? Did He fail? Was His claim to not lose any of His sheep false? Or is it possible that Judas failed, not Jesus? What Jesus promises always remain, just as eternal life is always eternal – but those who had it at one time lost it? The life He gives never becomes anything less than eternal. But some do lose it, as Judas did.”
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
Read the rest of this passage. He is clearly speaking of believers. And 12 is the number of completion. It’s a symbolic number. This doesn’t mean 12 literal thrones. Also, Jesus is obviously not going to make such a promise and not deliver.
And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name’s sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life.
Matthew 19:28-29 KJV”
REPLY:
What you fail to realize is free will – before and after God saves someone. Read Ezek 33:12-13; Heb 10:26-39.
Matt 19:28
In your “interpretation” of this passage, your colors are showing even more, your utter bias. Pitiful attempt ot continue to promulgate Satan’s OSAS lie…… Totally dishonest explanation.
WHO WAS JESUS SPEAKING TO?
Mat 19:23 Then said Jesus unto his DISCIPLES (how many were there? 12) …
Mat 19:25 When HIS DISCIPLES (the 12) heard it, they were exceedingly amazed, saying, Who then can be saved?
Mat 19:26 But Jesus beheld THEM, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.
Mat 19:27 Then answered Peter (as usual, spokesman for the 12) and said unto him, Behold, WE (the 12) have forsaken all, and followed thee; what shall WE (the 12) have therefore?
Mat 19:28 And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That YE WHICH HAVE FOLLOWED ME (the 12), in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, YE (the 12) also shall sit upon TWELVE thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
Clearly the 12 thrones Jesus promises here refers specifically to whom Jesus is speaking, His 12 disciples.
Many OSAS counterfeits simply will not let go of this demonic lie. They despise the thought of any personal responsibility and so cannot afford to allow themselves to truly repent and bring forth the fruit of a holy life! This will be to their own eternal demise (Hebrews 12:14; 1 Peter 1:15-16; 2 Cor 7:1; Eph 5:25-27, etc.).
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“Do you think Jesus did not know Judas was going to betray Him, when Judas was selected? Was the Apostle Paul chosen to take the place of Judas, therefore keeping the number at 12?”
REPLY:
Did or did not Jesus choose Judas? Yes (Luke 6:12-16). In Matthew 19:28, did Jesus promise JUDAS an eternal throne? Was the Son of God speaking to Judas or Paul at that moment? – “And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto YOU (the 12 original apostles), That YE (included Judas) which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.” (Matthew 19:28)
In Matthew 10 the very Son of God sends Judas and the other eleven forth to preach His Gospel, to heal the sick, open blinded eyes, and to cast out devils and do His ministry work, then He tells them that only those who endure to the end (remain faithful to Him to the end of their lives) will be saved (Matt. 10:1-22). Jesus sent Judas to cast out devils which can only be done by the Holy Spirit of God indwelling a person, further proving Judas Iscariot was right with God till he turned away (Matt. 10:1-8; 12:22-29).
As we see in the life of Judas, there is a qualification to the promise of God, initial and continual faith – “to the end.” The fact that Jesus, GOD, foreknew who would betray Him in no way negates His love and His choosing of that person. Foreknowledge in no way means God desires anyone to betray Him. Such is a foolish and erroneous conclusion. Jude speaks of many who were once right with God and then betrayed Him – because God gave men free will and never retracts such. He is love and love never forces but rather leaves the choice to the individual both initially and ongoing (Deuteronomy 30:19; Joshua 24:15). The following passage proves you are indicting the Almighty, blaming He who is “Holy, holy, holy” for the sin of Judas (Isaiah 6:3; Revelation 4:8)
Yes Jesus knew who would betray Him. It’s what Scripture calls divine “foreknowledge.” Yet how does that make OSAS/eternal security a Bible teaching other than it’s Satan’s first teaching? Foreknowing who would betray Him after being His, only proves Judas was of Christ and then departed from the Savior – due to his own willful choice to disobey the LORD.
“Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, NEITHER TEMPTETH HE ANY MAN (to sin): 14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed. 15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.” James 1:13-15
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“Christ is not capable of lying. Christ knew that Judas was going to betray Him before the foundation of the world. Do you deny this fact?”
REPLY:
That only tells us that God knows all – past, present, and future. The fact that the LORD knows who will betray Him in no way tells us that God desired or ordained Judas to betray Him nor that Judas was forced to betray Him. Man has free will before and after salvation (Joshua 24:15). The LORD never tempted Him to sin (James 1:13-15). Knowing that Judas is in hell, to “prove” your “eternal security” heresy, you have to force this issue. You have to make sure you “prove” that Judas was never Christ’s. Yet you haven’t proven that and can’t. Jesus chose Judas as 1 of His 12, promised him an eternal throne, and sent him to do His ministry work. You refuse to believe anyone could “fall away” after being saved but Jesus invented that term so it must be possible, and it sure is (Luke 8:13). You going to call the Son of God a liar?
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“You have flawed logic if you think God promised Judas something He knew he’d never have.”
REPLY:
“You are not a man of truth. You fail to believe what Scripture teaches concerning conditional, not un-conditional salvation and that some who get saved will choose not to “abide” (remain, continue) in Christ and will “fall away” and go to hell (Luke 8:13; John 15:6). God so loved the whole WORLD and gave His Son on the cross for everyone. Jesus said that He was going to “draw ALL men unto me” when He went to the cross (John 12:32). So here we realize that Jesus desires to save ALL men, otherwise he would not have said He was going to draw “ALL men.” He said He was going to “draw ALL men” which clearly means He desires to save “ALL men” which included Judas. This clearly reveals that He desires to save “ALL men.” (1 Timothy 2:4; 1 John 2:2; 2 Peter 3:9) This doesn’t change the fact that God gives all men free will (Joshua 24:15). You are contradicting the Word of God to say that just because God foreknew that Judas would turn against Christ that he was never of God and that God ordained, desired him to be damned. You indict God as having the characteristic of satan himself – to steal, kill, and destroy (John 10:10). “
“Who will have ALL men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.” 1 Timothy 2:4
“The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.” 2 Peter 3:9
“And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of THE WHOLE WORLD.” 1 John 2:2
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Apostasy
Satan’s First Lie that He is Still Telling Today! [podcast]
WHAT WAS SATAN’S VERY FIRST LIE?
Who’s ready for a huge, life-changing revelation?
Satan’s First Teaching (below)
IN all of God’s creation, which being/beings know exactly what it means to be kicked out, expelled from God’s presence, kingdom, and blessings? (Isaiah 14:12-15; Ezekiel 28:12-19; Luke 10:18; Revelation 12:7-12)
HOW can a man teach Satan’s first lie and NOT be a false teacher? Impossible. Eternal security/once saved always saved is Satan’s first teaching. It was a lie and caused the fall of mankind into sin. See Genesis 2:17 and 3:4 for yourself. Open God’s Word and read these 2 verses together, side-by-side. God said what? Satan then said what? This is essential to your biblical foundation saints.
“Individuals have believed the worst lie unleashed by Satan on humanity when they believe redemption cannot be lost in the temporal realm. It is as the lie the serpent told Eve. The fact is, that the eternal security lie has been largely perpetrated by Calvinism. There are no verses that support it. It is the major reason for the apostasy, and currently the great and final apostasy.” A disciple
“That old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world” never left the garden of God’s creation and he won’t till Jesus slam dunks him into the bottomless pit (Gen 3; Rev 12; 20). He must be overcome “by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.” (Revelation 12:11) God is able. Satan
Eternal security is Satan’s first lie that cause the fall of mankind and Jude warned us about Satan’s agents today, “ungodly men”, who are “turning the (saving) grace of God into lasciviousness.” (Genesis 2:17; 3:4; Jude 3-4)
OSAS/eternal security is a lie from hell. OSAS was Satan’s first lie and so it’s blasphemy to teach this doctrine of devils and claim it’s part of the Gospel. You are attributing Satan’s lie to the LORD Jesus. Repent now sinner. See Genesis 2:17; 3:4; Romans 11:20-22; 1 Timothy 4:1; Hebrews 3:6, 12-14; 10:26-39; 2 Peter 2:20-21; Jude 4, etc..
The concept of an un-conditional eternal security is not established in Scripture … Except for it being Satan’s first teaching, His first lie – the “Ye shall NOT surely die” lie (Genesis 2:17; 3:4).
Satan caused the fall of the first man and woman using the “ye shall NOT surely die” lie (Genesis 2:17; 3:4). This is the origins of what’s known today as “once saved always saved,” “eternal security,” or “perseverance of the saints.” JUST as Satan did with the first man and woman, as he caused them to fall from divine grace, calvinism is still his doctrine to make men believe they have no personal responsibility to obey God (Matthew 7:21). This robs the fear of God from their hearts and they live in sin, inevitably. Moral cowards absolutely love this system of heresies, where they are told they can just say a little prayer, supposedly get saved, and then go their own way, living any way they choose (2 Timothy 4:2-4). Yet in the end it’s going to catch up with them – irrevocably.
Moral cowards migrate to the “eternal security” heresy because they simply do not want to genuinely repent, to change. They want the crown but not the cross. They vainly believe they are going to use the Savior to get them out of hell yet want nothing to do with a worship-filled, engaged, abiding, fruit-bearing, obedient relationship with the Son of God while on earth. These are the rebel will hear the LORD declare to them “Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:” (Matthew 25:4. Read John 15.
ALL who peddle this OSAS/eternal security heresy are teaching Satan’s first lie. Irrefutably. It’s the “Ye shall NOT surely die” lie with led to the fall of mankind and is leading to the fall of many today who buy this lie (Genesis 2:17; 3:4).
“There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.” Proverbs 14:12
“Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; 2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;” 1 Timothy 4:1-2
Beware of those who are skilled in the fine art of putting a spin on Holy Scripture instead of taking it at face value and allowing divine truth to speak for itself. Jesus cited the false leaders of His day for doing just that.
“He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me. 7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. 8 For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do. 9 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.” Mark 7:6-9
What they do is sacrifice biblical truth to their traditions instead of letting GOD be true and EVERY man a liar (Romans 3:4).
Lots of “ministerial” training today involves teaching the students, the prey, how to not take God at His Word but rather to work it over, to whitewash it in order to cover for and promulgate the heretical tradition. Instead of honestly searching out biblical truth, allowing it to lead, many today have received traditions that are heresies and teach those same lies on others.
“Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.” Matthew 23:15
Can you find what Satan added?
“But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.” Genesis 2:17
“And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:” Genesis 3:4
This is the very lie that got the first man and woman to fall and kicked out of God’s Garden, presence. Did God change? Did the saving grace of God somehow change His definition of sin? Did the Almighty cease to be “Holy, holy, holy”? (Isaiah 6:3; Revelation 4:8)
“The wages of sin is death” and “Death” in Scripture means separation (Romans 6:23). The wages of sin is still “death.”
James 5:19-20 is a warning.
“Brethren, if any of you do err from the truth, and one convert him; 20 Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins.” James 5:19-20
“Death” means separation.
“save a soul from death” is clearly eternal damnation.
“For this my son was dead (separated from his father), and is alive again; he was lost, and is found. And they began to be merry.” Luke 15:24
“It was meet that we should make merry, and be glad: for this thy brother was dead, and is alive again; and was lost, and is found.” Luke 15:32
OSAS is clearly revealed in Holy Scripture to be the doctrine of Satan and his false teachers (Genesis 2:17>3:4; Jeremiah 23:17; Jude 4, etc.).
THE DOCTRINE OF LASCIVIOUSNESS: “For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness (license to sin), and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.” Jude 4
They “Shall utterly perish in their own corruption”
MOST would rather make a god in their own image, one that overlooks their sins and allows them to live in sin. And by way of “the deceitfulness of sin” and their own hardened hearts, they still vainly believe they are saved and going to Heaven (Hebrews 3:12-14). This is the natural course when people refuse to repent and obey the LORD according to His written Word – on HIS stated terms (John 8:31-32, 47; Psalms 119:105; 2 Timothy 3:16). Rebels who have a mere “form of godliness” refuse to “endure (hold themselves accountable to) sound doctrine” and so migrate to false teachers who tickle their ears (2 Timothy 3:1-7; 4:2-4). This is exactly why the OSAS/eternal security teaching prospers as do the frauds who teach it. It’s a money-maker and an integral part of their business plan – their church busin$$. All of this is a sign of the final days. Read 2 Timothy 3-4 saints. Jesus is coming. Hallelujah! We will do things GOD’s way or we shall perish in our own corruption (Matthew 7:21). Of apostates, Peter writes:
“But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption;” 2 Peter 2:12
and just a few verses later …
“For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. 21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.” 2 Peter 2:20-21
“Sealed”? Are you sure?
OSAS (once saved always saved) / eternal security …. is a heresy, a doctrine of devils (1 Timothy 4:1-2; Jude 3-4, etc.).
“Sealed” simply means stamped and cannot possibly be indelible, unforfeitable because the same word “sealed” in Ephesians and 2 Corinthians is the same Greek word in Matthew 27:66 where Jesus’ tomb was UN-sealed when He raised from the dead. Case closed.
Jesus gave conditions for His blessings including the promise of having the Father keep you…. you must hear His voice – present tense – and follow Him or those promises are not yours – John 10:27-29. Context. Condition.
Just a few chapters later Jesus teaches that all who are in Him who do not abide (continue) with Him, will be cast into the fires of hell (John 15:6).
Accounted Worthy to Escape [podcast] | Eternal Security Exposed | Sealed?
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Abiding
LORD, Prepare Me! [podcast]
“Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you: 8 for every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.” Matthew 7:7-8
“He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.” John 14:21
“Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.” John 14:23
“If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master’s use, and prepared unto every good work.” 2 Timothy 2:21
“But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.” Matthew 6:6
“Seek the Lord and his strength, seek his face continually.” 1 Chronicles 16:11
“And thou, Solomon my son, know thou the God of thy father, and serve him with a perfect heart and with a willing mind: for the LORD searcheth all hearts, and understandeth all the imaginations of the thoughts: if thou seek him, he will be found of thee; but if thou forsake him, he will cast thee off for ever.” 1 Chronicles 28:9
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Apostasy
Dispensationalism Exposed as an Antichrist Cult [podcast]
The Dispensational Cult of Evangelicalism Exposed
God’s Word never instructed anyone to rightly divide the word of truth via dispensations. There is no such statement of instruction in Scripture. And therein is this cult born and based.
One of the things that allures and seduces unsuspecting buyers into dispensationalism is the idea of neatly organizing world history into 7 dispensations. Yet it’s a trap that has snared many who have refused to organically study the whole of God’s Word in honesty before Him (2 Timothy 2:15). The LORD specifically instructs His people to “study … ALL Scripture” and therein obtain/attain to His truth (2 Timothy 2:15; 3:16-17; 1 Timothy 4:6). The individual study of God’s Word is vital – where it’s just you and the Word and Holy Ghost. Paul commanded and God commands each of us to study His Word for ourselves. Read 2 Timothy 2:15 afresh and see this instruction. In God’s Word, one will discover the deafening silence, the utter absence of any instruction to learn or divide His Word into dispensations at all or as a basis for understanding – much less such being an essential, a basis to understanding God’s truth as is declared by the dispensationalists.
A cult indoctrination system is what the dispensational cult utilizes.
“I appreciate this lesson. My church recently went dispensational, and now they teach that the four gospel and Acts aren’t written to us. They are saying only Roman through Philemon are applicable to New Testament Christians. Oh yeah, Paul preached a different gospel than Christ, and the Kingdom of Heaven is different than the Kingdom of God (SMH). This is sure confusion. Pray that my wife and I will find somewhere else to serve Christ. Thanks.” Matthew
Dispensationalists are clearly anti-Christ! This alone proves it.
The first part of this message is from Joshua Tapp, a man who was at one time ensnared in this cultish indoctrination system of dispensational theology. “Systematic” theology? Well, WHO is determining the system? Is this just another trap set for those who wish to be organized in their study? That way they can be made to believe that they have a grasp on the Bible and yet it’s built on falsehoods. May God bless each of us to be careful and discerning saints. As you peer into dispensationalism, you will find that someone upline if you will, has decided for themselves and you, that no one can possibly understand and rightly divide the truth of the Bible unless they study it in dispensations – something the Bible never hints much less instructs us to to do. An organized, personal, systematic studying of the Bible is one thing, and being indoctrinated into and by man’s system is yet another thing.
The roots of dispensationalism are cursed. One disciples notes: “The popular foolishness of John Nelson Darby’s dispensationalism teaches that if you miss the rapture, you need to be one with the Jews, who will be sacrificing animals in a rebuilt temple. Total heresy.”
Dispensationalism = Garbage = I Studied It For Years And Believed Garbage by Joshua Tapp
- I want to talk about dispensationalism because it’s something I studied for a few years.
- And it’s something I stopped studying because it’s pure trash that doesn’t match the Bible.
- Dispensationalists usually teach a Pre-Tribulation Rapture, which we know is completely false.
- You’ll find dispensationalism mainly in Independent Fundamental Baptist Churches.
- And I want you to see what they’re teaching today so you NEVER fall for this trash.
The word DISPENSATION is in the King James Bible 4 times. All 4 instances are in the New Testament.
- The Apostle Paul wrote the 3 books with these 4 occurrences. 1 Corinthians, Ephesians, and Colossians.
- I want to read those 4 verses to you as we get started today. Then, we’ll go over each in detail.
[3] 1 Corinthians 9:17 For if I do this thing willingly, I have a reward: but if against my will, a dispensation of the gospel is committed unto me.
[4] Ephesians 1:10 That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him:
[5] Ephesians 3:2 If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which is given me to you-ward:
[6] Colossians 1:25 Whereof I am made a minister, according to the dispensation of God which is given to me for you, to fulfil the word of God;
- So, what does dispensation mean in these 4 scriptures that we just read? We’re going to find out.
- Think of the word DISPENSE. Dispense means to distribute, or to give out.
- A candy dispenser gives out candy. A gumball machine is a dispenser of gumballs.
- And to help you remember DISPENSATION, I’m going to give you some candy today.
- I’m going to be a candy DISPENSER right now. I want you to remember what dispense means.
Dispense is the act of distribution or distributing something. To deal out. To give out. To grant something.
- A soap dispenser gives out soap. Do you understand what the word dispensation means now?
- It’s really that simple. The definition of the word dispensation is even explained right there in Colossians.
- Paul says, “according to the dispensation of God which is GIVEN to me for you.”
- Paul is telling us all about the GOSPEL and giving the Gospel to us just as God gave it to Him.
In other words, he is a DISPENSER of the Gospel. That’s what we’re supposed to be. DISPENSERS of the Gospel.
- You got excited over the candy being dispensed, right? Well, the Gospel is much better than that.
- We’re supposed to be DISPENSING the GOSPEL to as many people as we can so they might be saved.
- We’re supposed to be BRINGING or GIVING the GOSPEL to others. Do you see this?
- So, that’s 1 of 4 verses that we’re going to look at today. Let’s look in detail at the other 3.
- I’m going to show you what each of these mean, and then we’ll see what DISPENSATIONALISM is today.
- You’re going to see that DISPENSATIONALISM being taught in churches is not BIBLICAL at all.
Now, look, this was only a short introduction to DISPENSATIONALISM.
- All of their false doctrines are easy to disprove with the Bible.
- Dispensationalism is a false doctrine invented by a man named John Nelson Darby.
- He even wrote his own Bible version called Darby’s Translation.
- It’s just like the modern corrupted versions. He thought he was the only that was right.
- Just like Joseph Smith of the Mormons. His people are going the same direction.
- They’re moving away from God into all this weird doctrine and teaching. Don’t be a part of that.
- He invented the PRE-TRIBULATION RAPTURE in 1830. It doesn’t exist in the Bible.
- When you read Revelation word by word and verse by verse, it makes no sense.
- We need to pray that the deceived get away from these churches teaching false doctrines.
Dispensationalists say We are Saved by Grace but Others weren’t. They say others were saved some other way.
There aren’t different AGES with different ways of being saved.
“If the Bible tells us in John 1:17 that “GRACE and truth came by Jesus Christ”, long before Paul was even saved, how were those 8,000 people at Pentecost saved? (Acts 1-4) After all, Paul didn’t get saved for many years after that (Acts 9). So, the world could only get saved after Paul came along? Is Paul the Savior or JESUS? Did “grace and truth” come from Jesus or Paul? Repent now, vile sinner (John 1:17).” Todd Tomasella
- The dispensationalists say that we’re in the AGE OF GRACE. (a made up “age”)
- They say that we are saved by grace but others weren’t. This is very important to understand.
- The truth is ALL PEOPLE OF ALL TIME are saved the exact same way.
- We’re all saved by GRACE through faith. Everyone in heaven right now got there the exact same way.
- We did an entire sermon on people throughout the Bible and how they were saved.
- Hebrews Chapter 11 tells us all of these people were saved by faith.
2 Timothy 3:16-17 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
- So, they (dispensationalists) come up with all these FAKE DISPENSATIONS that aren’t in the Bible.
- How did God divide the Bible? There’s 2 parts to the Bible. The Old Testament and the New Testament.
- The Old Covenant and the New Covenant. Notice the division is a TESTAMENT.
- The Bible isn’t divided into the Old Salvation and the New Salvation. It’s not a different way to salvation.
John 14:15 If ye love me, keep MY commandments.
- Jesus is the AUTHOR OF GOD’S LAWS. Those are all HIS COMMANDMENTS within the Bible.
- Does Jesus say, “In the future, don’t worry about following my laws because you’re under grace.”
- The Bible itself DESTROYS this false doctrine of dispensationalism. But they can’t see that.
- When you create false teaching like dispensationalism, it gets more and more weird the further you go.
More below from Todd Tomasella …..
WHERE does God’s Word tell us that one cannot “rightly divide the word of truth” unless he does it through time dispensations? Nowhere! When the dispensationalist insists in “context, context” and “rightly divide”… what they are really saying is “No one can rightly divide God’s Word except the dispensationalists.”
Randy Yandell writes: “Those holding a theology that teaches more than one plan of salvation for any people in any age are certainly to be separated from. These are the same that would creep in with the majority unaware bringing in a damnable heresy that tells us God is a respecter of persons. They are accursed and we certainly should separate from them except to “rebuke them sharply” that they may come to the knowledge of the truth.
Paul himself tells us that dispensationalists are “accursed” for saying there is “another gospel”, more than one (Galatians 1:6-9).
Dispensational heretics teach that Jesus’ kingdom Gospel is obsolete and that only Paul’s matters – “Romans to Philemon” they say. So they are antichrist for putting Paul in place of Jesus. They deify Paul and are in need of repentance before it’s too late. Cult.
Our kids and young adults are getting swept into this stuff by the truckloads. It’s a couple of decades past time to get serious about opposing it.”
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“All the bible was written FOR us….but not all was written TO us. Romans through Philemon is all the New Testament saint needs.”
REPLY:
These dispensationalist wolves hyper preach that THEY alone rightly divide the Word of truth…. it’s a smokescreen they hide behind as they’ve been indoctrinated into this cult. Dispensationalists require that their prey read extra-biblical books first in order to understand the Bible. HUGE RED FLAG – and the absolute sign of indoctrination. They are butchering the Word of God. WHERE O where did Jesus, Paul or any of the apostles instruct believers to view the Bible through dispensations? Chapters and verses please? You are being completely deceived by a mere cliche’ pawned on your mind. “ALL scripture is given by inspiration of God” and not just some. Even the OT is “for our learning” (2 Timothy 3:16; Rom 15:4).
You did NOT come to this conclusion for yourself. Mere men, sinners imposed it upon your mind. The Bible never tells you this. It’s not in the Bible. The Bible never instructs anyone saying things like “you can’t rightly divide and understand the Bible unless you do it via dispensations” … so did God forget to tell us something or are we deceived?
Dispensationalists are saying that only Romans thru Philemon are valid which means that the other 14 books of the New Testament canon are invalid and that God made a mistake by including them. They are adding to and REMOVING from God’s Word and their names and yours will be removed from the book of life – Rev 22:18-19
You are deifying Paul, a mere men, less than the least of all sinners who said there is “NO good thing” in himself except Christ (Ephesians 3:8). This whole system of demonic theology is all to save counterfeits from truly laying down their lives in this present world and following Jesus by the daily cross, the crucified life. This is the exact perversion of grace Jude 4 foretold. You have no clue who deceived you are and now you’re spreading this heresy.
Here’s the big clue for those who gullibly, foolishly, sinfully bought into the lies of the dispensationalist devils: You did NOT go into the Bible and discover these things. No, you were gullibly led by false teachers and took the bait, hook line and sinker and it’s because you aren’t studying God’s Word organically for yourself. And so, when these cult leaders brainwashed you to believe that only THEY were rightly dividing the Word of truth, you fell all over your foolish self to drink in that poison. Mark This: No one ever studied the Bible for themselves with the Holy Ghost and came out with those heresies. Sinful men mined out these twisted lies and then began to spread those doctrines of devils….. “MANY false prophets shall arise and shall deceive many.” (Matthew 24:11)
The fact that you have to go through a whole lengthy workbook curriculum to learn the interpretation system of dispensationalist should be a red flag. This is introductory indoctrination.
This whole explanation dispensationalists give complicates the simple, original Gospel, the revelation of which should be obtained by organic reading of the Word of God for oneself as Scripture instructs (2 Timothy 2:15). Those who believe this system get this theology from other mere men, commentators and false teachers (such as Scofield). Someone imposes it on them, pretending to make understanding the Bible simpler. They forgot to mention the poison. Instead of personally studying the Bible organically, some want a short cut and so what they do is hook up with some ministry that is pushing a system. Laziness is also a contributing factor when men choose to go to seminary – to supposedly study a book, the Bible they’ve had in their possession for years. Enlisting to be indoctrinated would sum up the course of seminarians and those who follow their heretical theology. Dispensational “seminary,” signing up to be indoctrinated via their systematic curriculum, is a recipe for diabolical doctrinal disaster.
MESSAGE FROM DISPENSATIONALIST:
“Dispensationalism leads to understanding the Bible without contradiction. Non-dispensationalism leads to satanic heresies and Bible ignorance.”
REPLY:
This is laughable at best. You are clearly a blasphemer who is saying that the Holy Ghost can’t teach God’s people God’s Word. Wow! Repent sinner.
“But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.” John 14:26
“Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. 14 He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.” John 16:13-14
“But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.” 1 John 2:27
MESSAGE RECEIVED FROM A DECEIVED DISPENSATIONALIST:
“There is more than one gospel in Bible. However, there is only one gospel that is to be preached today. Watch closely👇 Galatians 1:7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. Notice, Paul, (when speaking of the gospel) says which “is not another”. He does not say which WAS not another, or for that matter, which never will BE another. A bible believer knows that in the future there will BE another gospel. (Revelation 14:6) Paul is not saying that there never was or will be another gospel. He is simply saying there is no other gospel other than his, at this TIME. (“Which is not another;”) Galatians 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. Note that Paul warned that even if an “angel from heaven, preach any other gospel”. But Revelation 14:6 declares that an angel WILL preach another gospel. “And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,” And if you’ll read Revelation 14 and pay close attention to the context you’ll notice that something is missing. OUR gospel! (1 Corinthians 15:1-4) ~Christ dying for all our sins, and rising the third day to give us His eternal life is not there. ~God through Christ reconciling the world unto himself and no longer imputing the our sins is not there. ~Being saved by grace through faith alone in Christ alone, without any works of any-kind at any-time, is JUST NOT THERE.”
REPLY:
Totally convoluted.. You are simply regurgitating what you learned from false teachers. You claim Bible believers know there’s another future gospel coming. Not. WHAT gospel would that be since the true Gospel (Good News) is Jesus Christ and His death, burial, and resurrection? (1 Corinthians 15:1-4) You are misusing Scripture. You reference Revelation 14:6 which states: “And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people.” “The everlasting gospel” is the same Gospel – nothing supersedes Jesus Christ, the eternal God and He is that Gospel, that everlasting, eternal Good News, Gospel. His death, burial, and resurrection is memorialized for ever. You are making things up to say that “the everlasting gospel” spoken of here is another gospel. Ridiculous. Heretical. If the Gospel spoken of here is “the EVERLASTING gospel”, it further proves that God has only one Gospel – past, present, future. That means it has never and will never change. Your theology is convoluted. Eternal security is yet another lie of the dispensational devils. Repent now sinner.
HOW MANY GOSPELS ARE THERE?
The following bulleted statements are from one source concerning dispensationalism theology:
- “They (dispensationalists) say only Paul taught being ‘in Christ’. Rom 16:7; Gal 1:22-23 among others, show these people were named as being ‘in Christ’ before Paul was in Christ.
- Contrary to what they teach, the Word clearly teaches that the Jewish church was ‘in Christ’ and that Paul preached the same faith he once persecuted. Rom 16:7; Gal 1:22-23
- Some (dispensationalists) teach there are Two different gospels — that the Jew is saved by faith plus the law and Gentiles by Faith alone. Because Paul said ‘my gospel’ they think it was somehow different than Peter, John, James (Rom 2:18; 16:25; 2 Tim 2:8). Even though elsewhere he called it ‘our gospel’ (2 Cor 4:3; 1 Thess 1:5; 2 Thess 2:14). There is only one gospel not two, the just have always lived by faith. (Hab 2:4; Rom 1:17, Gal 2:16, 3:11) The righteous have always been declared so by belief in God and His promises. From the beginning. Some just see the Jews transitioning from the law as we see in Galatians 2 with the public rebuke of Peter, Barnabas and James.”
The phrases “another gospel” and “any other gospel” could mean but one thing – that there is only one Gospel (2 Corinthians 11:2-4; Galatians 1:6-9). Dispensational theology teaches that there are two gospels – one for the Jews, and another for the Gentiles.
“I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: 7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. 9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.” Galatians 1:6-9
Past, present, and future, the Lamb of God and His crucifixion will be celebrated in glory – “the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.” (Revelation 13:8)
Paul not only uses the term “my gospel”, he also uses the words “THE gospel” as in only one Gospel! In fact, in the New Testament canon, the words “THE gospel” appear 86 times while Paul’s use of the words “my gospel” appear only 3 times. Paul himself used the term “THE gospel” 59 times! I will leave it to you to do a search of the words “THE gospel” on your King James Bible software. Your jaw will drop as 86 results appear. And as you do, notice that the words “THE gospel”, a phrase used before and after Paul used this same term, further proving there’s only one Gospel – “THE gospel” of Jesus Christ – which is not exclusive to Paul’s dispensation (dispensing) of it which simply refers to his stewardship of the calling God gave him to dispense the one and eternal Gospel of Jesus Christ who is the Gospel.
Paul says that anyone preaching “ANY other gospel” than CHRIST’s Gospel, is “accursed.” (Galatians 1:6-9) There’s only 1 Gospel – Christ’s. Dispensationalism is demonic.
There is no end to the debacle of this dispensational system of heresy. Before Paul was even saved, the words “many believed” appears 4 times in the Word of God and 1 time shortly after Paul was saved (John 2:23; 8:30; 10:42; 12:42; Acts 9:42). The Bible clearly says “many believed” and so we know they were “saved.” (John 6:47) Yet the dispensationalist would say they are not saved because they couldn’t be saved till Paul came along. So, were those people, those “many” who believed, believing into “another gospel” – a gospel other than that one Gospel of Christ spoken of throughout the New Testament canon? There’s Only One Gospel of Christ and as seen in the Bible verses listed above, people were clearly saved BEFORE Paul was saved much less before he wrote the books God ordained him to pen!
HOW do you know if someone is imposing something upon the Scripture text they are reading from IF you haven’t personally, organically, thoroughly studied the whole of God’s Word for yourself? You don’t.
Dispensationalists claim that the only essential part of the New Testament and Bible for that matter, is the writings of the apostle Paul. The demonic dispensationalists claim that only Paul’s words really matter, not Christ’s or the other holy apostles and writers of the New Testament and whole Bible canon. But Paul, whom they deify, disagrees.
“If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, EVEN THE WORDS OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness; 4 He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings, 5 Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself.” 1 Timothy 6:3-5
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