12 Not 11
It is undeniable that Jesus chose Judas and that Judas was in right relationship with the Son of God, was sent out by Jesus to do His ministry work, and was promised an eternal throne in Heaven. Let’s talk about it.
“Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you TWELVE, and one of you is a devil? 71 He spake of Judas Iscariot the son of Simon: for he it was that should betray him, being one of the twelve.” John 6:70-71
“Have not I chosen you TWELVE” – Did Jesus choose a devil and send him to do His ministry OR did Judas choose after he was chosen by Christ to turn against Christ? The answer is obvious.
Judas was 1 of the 12. Judas was chosen by Jesus to the highest office in the church. Though he later turn against and betrayed Jesus, Judas holds the distinction as being one of the twelve original apostles of Christ!
It is undeniably on record that Jesus Christ promised Judas an eternal throne in Heaven.
“And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon TWELVE (not 11) thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.” Matthew 19:28
Was Judas one of the twelve original apostles of Jesus Christ? It is irrefutable that the Son of God promised his “twelve,” not eleven, eternal thrones in His heavenly kingdom. Judas, who was one of the “twelve,” was promised an eternal throne, yet “by transgression” fell and went to hell. Judas kissed the very Gate of Heaven, and turned and went to hell, given over to and driven by demons he ended his own life.
Judas was chosen by Christ Himself as one of His very twelve, yet Judas wasn’t hell-proof. Judas wasn’t “once saved always saved.” Judas was not given a spiritual asbestos suit. It is undeniably on record that Jesus Christ promised Judas an eternal throne in Heaven and so, the OSAS-er and calvinist are dead wrong to believe Judas was never a true child of God. Jesus chose him to the highest office in the church and told him he’d be in Heaven (Matthew 19:28). God’s promises are conditional. Judas chose to rebel and the promise was revoked as it was for Israel and many others throughout biblical history, beginning with Lucifer.
Judas is now in hell and yet was once a disciple of Christ – promised by the Son of God an ETERNAL throne in Heaven (Matt. 19:28). Judas was once in grace but not always in grace.
In Matthew 19:28 Jesus was at that moment speaking to Judas, not his replacement, and the Son of God clearly promised Judas an eternal throne. Christ promised him an eternal throne and Jesus also required that His original 12 and also all who follow Him, endure to the end or be lost (Matt. 10:22; 24:13). “Then said Jesus unto his disciples … Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon TWELVE thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.” (Matt. 19:23, 28)
Judas was one of Jesus’ hand-selected “twelve” and so Judas was included in this promise. So, to say Judas was not saved and promised eternal security – a very throne in Heaven with Jesus – is to say that Jesus lied. It is also to say that God can’t break His promise if someone rebels.
Judas kissed the gate of Heaven Himself then turned and denied and betrayed Him. He made choice as God has given all men choice. That ability to choose does not end after He finds and saves us (Deut. 30:19; Josh. 24:15; Isa. 1:19-20; Rom. 6:16, Gal. 6:6-8; James 1:13-15; Rev. 22:17, etc.).
In Matthew 10 the very Son of God sends Judas and the other eleven forth to preach His Gospel, to heal the sick, open blinded eyes, and to cast out devils and do His ministry work, then He tells them that only those who endure to the end (remain faithful to Him to the end of their lives) will be saved (Matt. 10:1-22). Jesus sent Judas to cast out devils which can only be done by the Holy Spirit of God indwelling a person, further proving Judas Iscariot was right with God till he turned away (Matt. 10:1-8; 12:22-29).
As we see in the life of Judas, there is a qualification to the promise of God, initial and continual faith – “to the end.”
Did Christ pray all night and knowingly bring an evil man (Judas) into His ministry? Or, did Judas become evil by choosing not to love and obey Christ and to rebel and live in sin? The answer is obvious to the honest and noble student of Holy Scripture. As is the obvious case with all human beings, Judas retained the choice to go on serving or not serving God with his whole heart (Deut. 30:19-20; Joshua 24:15; Isa. 1:18-20).
Jesus sent Judas to preach His Word and to cast out devils and Judas was a heathen? (Matthew 10:1-8) Lame excuse. Nothing could be clearer than the historically documented fact that Judas had free will, was chosen by the Son of God, set apart and sent to do ministry for Jesus and then fell away by his own sin which he had free will to commit (Acts 1:25; James 1:13-15).
“Ye Are Clean, But Not All”
In John 13, we are given insight into the differences between Peter and Judas. Such is a fascinating study and lesson. The differentiation between what both of these men chose to do holds eternal consequences. We must not miss this eternal distinction! Though both were equally divinely chosen as part of the original twelve, Peter chose to be humble, teachable and obedient while Judas chose to be prideful, unteachable and disobedient. Peter wisely elected to answer the call of Christ to be initially and perpetually washed of his sins which sustained His relationship with Jesus – “Simon Peter saith unto him, Lord, not my feet only, but also my hands and my head.” Peter possessed genuine saving faith which manifested in obedience to Christ. Unlike Judas, the one Christ refers to here when He asserts “but not all (are washed),” Peter answered the LORD’s call to be washed initially and continually. Could this not be said to be the difference between Peter and Judas? Is this not the reason that only one of these two men is in Heaven and the other is in eternal damnation?
“Not all (are washed)” – as it was among the original twelve, so it is today in the church. Some have been initially washed and remain washed to this hour, yet some who were initially washed are not submitting to the Lordship of Jesus and are not receiving His ongoing washings from their sins. Do you wash your clothes only one time? No, you buy that article of clothing and then you wash it. You then wash it repeatedly after wearing it – to keep it clean and ready for use. Right?
“…Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it; That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word, That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.” Ephesians 5:25-27
Why did Jesus give His very life for His Bride? “That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot (stains of sin)…but that it should be holy and without blemish.”
God wants His children “without blemish” and such is only possible by humbly submitting our lives to the LORD to be cleansed.
Through the preponderance of data available to us in Holy Writ, it must be concluded that this villainous character named Judas, was chosen and chose to be initially elected and initially washed by Christ, yet did not (like Peter) choose to be perpetually washed and cleansed by Jesus.
“He (Christ) riseth from supper, and laid aside his garments; and took a towel, and girded himself. After that he poureth water into a basin, and began to wash the disciples’ feet, and to wipe them with the towel wherewith he was girded. Then cometh he to Simon Peter: and Peter saith unto him, Lord, dost thou wash (clean) my feet? Jesus answered and said unto him, What I do thou knowest not now; but thou shalt know hereafter. Peter saith unto him, Thou shalt never wash my feet. Jesus answered him, If I wash thee not, thou hast no part with me. Simon Peter saith unto him, Lord, not my feet only, but also my hands and my head. Jesus saith to him, He that is washed needeth not save to wash his feet, but is clean every whit: and ye are clean, but not all.” John 13:4-10
“If I wash thee not, thou hast no part with me.” – Did you hear the definitive nature of Jesus’ words here? Christ speaks of initial and perpetual washings. Peter is no different than each and every child of God – we need to be initially and continually cleansed of our sins. This cleansing must be willingly submitted to and is not an automatic process as we see here with the reference to Judas – “ye are clean, but not all.” Eleven of the twelve original apostles of Christ elected to be initially and perpetually washed by the Master sin cleanser. One didn’t.
By nature a bride prepares herself for her bridegroom. As we behold in this very important passage in John 13, Jesus Christ is the initial and perpetual cleanser of our hearts, hands and feet. In Scripture, clean hands and feet speak of asking and receiving washings from the sins we commit with the members of our bodies (transgressions). See Psalms 24 and Romans 6. First and foremost, we must be apprehended by Him, receiving “the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Ghost.” (Titus 3:4-7) As Peter learned and we are taught here, in John 13, every child who is initially washed, must then submit to the Lordship of the Washer in order to “abide” in relationship with Him (Jn. 15). As Peter learned, so the Bride of Christ must learn to rejoice in and be perpetually washed by Christ’s precious and holy blood and “the washing of water by the word.” (Eph. 5:26)
According to 1 John 1:7, we can know when we are walking in His light as we are being honest towards Him who sees all, and humbly acknowledging (not hiding in darkness) our sins and experiencing the ongoing cleansing of His precious blood. By this unspeakable gift we have clear conscience and are enabled by His grace to serve Him with no consciousness of sin! See Hebrews 9:14 and rejoice! What a gift the divine blood has procured for all New Covenant saints! Dare we not appropriate such blessed benefits? – “forget not all his benefits.” (Ps. 103:2)
“Jesus answered and said unto him, What I do thou knowest not now (do not yet understand); but thou shalt know hereafter.” (Jn. 13:7) “Hereafter” or here forward and after you have walked in (been obedient to) what I am showing you here, you will understand. Those who choose to live in obedience to Christ are the ones He chooses to give understanding. In the divine economy, we must first obey in order to be granted understanding. “Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me. If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine…” (Jn. 7:16-17)
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MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“Was Judas saved or not in your opinion? I don’t know of anyone who has ever claimed that he was saved. So did Jesus lie? Did He fail? Was His claim to not lose any of His sheep false? Or is it possible that Judas failed, not Jesus? What Jesus promises always remain, just as eternal life is always eternal – but those who had it at one time lost it? The life He gives never becomes anything less than eternal. But some do lose it, as Judas did.”
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
Read the rest of this passage. He is clearly speaking of believers. And 12 is the number of completion. It’s a symbolic number. This doesn’t mean 12 literal thrones. Also, Jesus is obviously not going to make such a promise and not deliver.
And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name’s sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life.
Matthew 19:28-29 KJV”
REPLY:
What you fail to realize is free will – before and after God saves someone. Read Ezek 33:12-13; Heb 10:26-39.
Matt 19:28
In your “interpretation” of this passage, your colors are showing even more, your utter bias. Pitiful attempt ot continue to promulgate Satan’s OSAS lie…… Totally dishonest explanation.
WHO WAS JESUS SPEAKING TO?
Mat 19:23 Then said Jesus unto his DISCIPLES (how many were there? 12) …
Mat 19:25 When HIS DISCIPLES (the 12) heard it, they were exceedingly amazed, saying, Who then can be saved?
Mat 19:26 But Jesus beheld THEM, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.
Mat 19:27 Then answered Peter (as usual, spokesman for the 12) and said unto him, Behold, WE (the 12) have forsaken all, and followed thee; what shall WE (the 12) have therefore?
Mat 19:28 And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That YE WHICH HAVE FOLLOWED ME (the 12), in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, YE (the 12) also shall sit upon TWELVE thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
Clearly the 12 thrones Jesus promises here refers specifically to whom Jesus is speaking, His 12 disciples.
Many OSAS counterfeits simply will not let go of this demonic lie. They despise the thought of any personal responsibility and so cannot afford to allow themselves to truly repent and bring forth the fruit of a holy life! This will be to their own eternal demise (Hebrews 12:14; 1 Peter 1:15-16; 2 Cor 7:1; Eph 5:25-27, etc.).
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“Do you think Jesus did not know Judas was going to betray Him, when Judas was selected? Was the Apostle Paul chosen to take the place of Judas, therefore keeping the number at 12?”
REPLY:
Did or did not Jesus choose Judas? Yes (Luke 6:12-16). In Matthew 19:28, did Jesus promise JUDAS an eternal throne? Was the Son of God speaking to Judas or Paul at that moment? – “And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto YOU (the 12 original apostles), That YE (included Judas) which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.” (Matthew 19:28)
In Matthew 10 the very Son of God sends Judas and the other eleven forth to preach His Gospel, to heal the sick, open blinded eyes, and to cast out devils and do His ministry work, then He tells them that only those who endure to the end (remain faithful to Him to the end of their lives) will be saved (Matt. 10:1-22). Jesus sent Judas to cast out devils which can only be done by the Holy Spirit of God indwelling a person, further proving Judas Iscariot was right with God till he turned away (Matt. 10:1-8; 12:22-29).
As we see in the life of Judas, there is a qualification to the promise of God, initial and continual faith – “to the end.” The fact that Jesus, GOD, foreknew who would betray Him in no way negates His love and His choosing of that person. Foreknowledge in no way means God desires anyone to betray Him. Such is a foolish and erroneous conclusion. Jude speaks of many who were once right with God and then betrayed Him – because God gave men free will and never retracts such. He is love and love never forces but rather leaves the choice to the individual both initially and ongoing (Deuteronomy 30:19; Joshua 24:15). The following passage proves you are indicting the Almighty, blaming He who is “Holy, holy, holy” for the sin of Judas (Isaiah 6:3; Revelation 4:8)
Yes Jesus knew who would betray Him. It’s what Scripture calls divine “foreknowledge.” Yet how does that make OSAS/eternal security a Bible teaching other than it’s Satan’s first teaching? Foreknowing who would betray Him after being His, only proves Judas was of Christ and then departed from the Savior – due to his own willful choice to disobey the LORD.
“Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, NEITHER TEMPTETH HE ANY MAN (to sin): 14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed. 15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.” James 1:13-15
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“Christ is not capable of lying. Christ knew that Judas was going to betray Him before the foundation of the world. Do you deny this fact?”
REPLY:
That only tells us that God knows all – past, present, and future. The fact that the LORD knows who will betray Him in no way tells us that God desired or ordained Judas to betray Him nor that Judas was forced to betray Him. Man has free will before and after salvation (Joshua 24:15). The LORD never tempted Him to sin (James 1:13-15). Knowing that Judas is in hell, to “prove” your “eternal security” heresy, you have to force this issue. You have to make sure you “prove” that Judas was never Christ’s. Yet you haven’t proven that and can’t. Jesus chose Judas as 1 of His 12, promised him an eternal throne, and sent him to do His ministry work. You refuse to believe anyone could “fall away” after being saved but Jesus invented that term so it must be possible, and it sure is (Luke 8:13). You going to call the Son of God a liar?
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“You have flawed logic if you think God promised Judas something He knew he’d never have.”
REPLY:
“You are not a man of truth. You fail to believe what Scripture teaches concerning conditional, not un-conditional salvation and that some who get saved will choose not to “abide” (remain, continue) in Christ and will “fall away” and go to hell (Luke 8:13; John 15:6). God so loved the whole WORLD and gave His Son on the cross for everyone. Jesus said that He was going to “draw ALL men unto me” when He went to the cross (John 12:32). So here we realize that Jesus desires to save ALL men, otherwise he would not have said He was going to draw “ALL men.” He said He was going to “draw ALL men” which clearly means He desires to save “ALL men” which included Judas. This clearly reveals that He desires to save “ALL men.” (1 Timothy 2:4; 1 John 2:2; 2 Peter 3:9) This doesn’t change the fact that God gives all men free will (Joshua 24:15). You are contradicting the Word of God to say that just because God foreknew that Judas would turn against Christ that he was never of God and that God ordained, desired him to be damned. You indict God as having the characteristic of satan himself – to steal, kill, and destroy (John 10:10). “
“Who will have ALL men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.” 1 Timothy 2:4
“The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.” 2 Peter 3:9
“And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of THE WHOLE WORLD.” 1 John 2:2
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Famous Last Words of Atheists [podcast]
“Wow! That should put the fear of God in anyone who listens to this podcast! I know it did me! Powerful!” Karen
“The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.” Psalms 14:1
I saw where a brother in Christ asks the so-called “atheists” he meets “Don’t you miss Him?” In a gentle loving voice he asks them if they miss God. This rings true because we know at some point in their past, God was showing them His kindness, drawing them (John 12:32). He is still showing them kindness in that they are still alive (Romans 2:4).
Think about that. God informed us that all men, with no exception, know inside that He exists. This is why He said that “they are without excuse” (Romans 1:20).
I’ve seen several testimonies lately of people who previously called themselves “atheist” and are now saved by the blood of Jesus Christ! Keep preaching His glorious saving Gospel beloved saints. He’s coming soon.
Fearful Last Words:
CAESAR BORGIA – Italian nobleman, politician, and cardinal:
“While I lived, I provided for everything but death; now I must die, and am unprepared to die.”
THOMAS HOBBS – Political philosopher:
“I say again, if I had the whole world at my disposal, I would give it to live one day. I am about to take a leap into the dark.”
THOMAS PAYNE – Leading atheistic writer in American colonies:
“Stay with me, for God’s sake; I cannot bear to be left alone, O Lord, help me! O God, what have I done to suffer so much? What will become of me hereafter? I would give worlds if I had them, that ‘The Age of Reason’ had never been published. O Lord, help me! Christ, help me! No, don’t leave; stay with me! Send even a child to stay with me; for I am on the edge of hell here alone. If ever the Devil had an agent, I have been that one.”
SIR THOMAS SCOTT – Chancellor of England:
“Until this moment I thought there was neither a God nor a hell. Now I know and feel that there are both, and I am doomed to perdition by the just judgment of the Almighty.”
VOLTAIRE – Famous anti-Christian atheist:
“…’I am abandoned by God and man.’ He said to his physician, Dr. Fochin: ‘I will give you half of what I am worth if you will give me six months of life.’ When he was told this was impossible, he said, ‘Then I shall die and go to hell!’ His nurse said: ‘For all the money in Europe I wouldn’t want to see another unbeliever die! All night long he cried for forgiveness.’
ROBERT INGERSOLL – American writer and orator of the book, Golden Age of Free Thought:
“O God, if there be a God, save my soul, if I have a soul from hell!”
DAVID HUME – Atheist philosopher famous for his religious skepticism … He cried aloud on his death bed:
“I am in flames!”
Witnessed said his desperation was a horrible scene.
NAPOLEON BONAPARTE – French emperor who … brought death to millions to satisfy his … selfish ambitions for world conquest:
“I die before my time, and my body will be given back to the earth. Such is the fate of him who has been called the great Napoleon. What an abyss between my deep misery and the eternal kingdom of Christ!”
SIR FRANCIS NEWPORT – Head of an English Atheist club, to those gathered around his deathbed:
“You need not tell me there is no God, for I know there is one, and that I am in his presence! You need not tell me there is no hell. I feel myself already slipping. Wretches, cease your idle talk about there being hope for me! I know I am lost forever! Oh, that fire! Oh, the insufferable pangs of hell! Oh, that I could lie for a thousand years upon the fire that is never quenched, to purchase the favor of God and be united to Him again. But it is a fruitless wish. Millions and millions of years will bring me no nearer the end of my torments than one poor hour. Oh, eternity, eternity forever and forever! Oh, the insufferable pangs of Hell!”
CHARLES IX – French king. Urged on by his mother, he gave the order for the massacre of the French Huguenots, in which 15,000 souls were slaughtered in Paris alone and 100,000 in other sections of France, for no other reason than that they loved Christ. … He finally died, bathed in blood bursting from his veins. To his physicians, he said in his last hours:
“Asleep or awake, I see the mangled forms of the Huguenots passing before me. They drop with blood. They point at their open wounds. Oh! That I had spared at least the little infants at the bosom! What blood! I know not where I am. How will all this end? What shall I do? I am lost forever! Oh, I have done wrong…”
DAVID STRAUSS – Leading representative of German rationalism who spent a lifetime erasing belief in God:
“My philosophy leaves me utterly forlorn! I feel like one caught in the merciless jaws of an automatic machine, not knowing at what time one of its great hammers may crush me!”
JOSEF STALIN – Soviet revolutionary and politician. In a Newsweek interview with Svetlana, his daughter, she told of his death:
“My father died a difficult and terrible death … God grants an easy death only to the just. At what seemed the very last moment, he suddenly opened his eyes and cast a glance over everyone in the room. It was a terrible glance, insane or perhaps angry. His left hand was raised, as though he were pointing to something above and bringing down a curse on us all. The gesture was full of menace…the next morning he was dead.”
ANTON LEVEY – Satanic Bible author and high priest of the Satanic worship religion. … His dying words were:
“Oh my, oh my, what have I done, there is something very wrong.” – newzsteam. wordpress.com. December 19, 2017, by Brian Butler
ELIZABETH THE FIRST:
“All my possessions for one moment of time.”
KURT COBAIN (suicide note):
“Frances and Courtney, I’ll be at your altar. Please keep going Courtney, for Frances. For her life will be so much happier without me. I love you. I love you.”
LUDWIG VAN BEETHOVEN:
“Too bad, too bad! It’s too late!”
ANNE BOLEYN:
“O God, have pity on my soul. O God, have pity on my soul.”
PRINCE HENRY OF WALES:
“Tie a rope round my body, pull me out of bed, and lay me in ashes, that I may die with repentant prayers to an offended God. O! I in vain wish for that time I lost with you and others in vain recreations.”
SOCRATES:
“All of the wisdom of this world is but a tiny raft upon which we must set sail when we leave this earth. If only there was a firmer foundation upon which to sail, perhaps some divine word.”
SIGMUND FREUD:
“The meager satisfaction that man can extract from reality leaves him starving.”
TONY HANCOCK (British comedian):
“Nobody will ever know I existed. Nothing to leave behind me. Nothing to pass on. Nobody to mourn me. That’s the bitterest blow of all.”
PHILLIP III, King of France:
“What an account I shall have to give to God! How I should like to live otherwise than I have lived.”
LUTHER BURBANK:
“I don’t feel good.”
Philosophical Last Words:
Aldous Huxley (humanist):
“It is a bit embarrassing to have been concerned with the human problem all one’s life and find at the end that one has no more to offer by way of advice than ‘Try and be a little kinder.’”
Karl Marx:
“Go on, get out! Last words are for fools who haven’t said enough!”
Leonardo da Vinci:
“I have offended God and mankind because my work did not reach the quality it should have.”
Tolstoy:
“Even in the valley of the shadow of death, two and two do not make six.”
Benjamin Franklin:
“A dying man can do nothing easy.”
Grotius:
“I have lived my life in a laborious doing of nothing.”
In Stark Contrast to the Wicked, the Righteous Die with Great Hope
“If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable.” 1 Corinthians 15:19
“For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:” 1 Peter 3:18
“For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.” Ephesians 2:8-9
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The Persecution Podcast [podcast]
“Think it not strange” in 1 Peter 4 simply means to not be surprised. If you love the LORD you will want to hear all He says in His Word, including the reality of persecutions for Christ’s sake (John 8:47). Any man posing as a leader among God’s people and isn’t preaching regularly on the reality of Christian persecution, is absolutely an ear-tickling wolf! Run!
Sounds like our LORD is saying that WHATEVER, WHOEVER we lose in this life due to following Jesus, God is going to multiply back to us…
“And Jesus looking upon them saith, With men it is impossible, but not with God: for with God all things are possible. 28 Then Peter began to say unto him, Lo, we have left all, and have followed thee. 29 And Jesus answered and said, Verily I say unto you, There is no man that hath left house, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my sake, and the gospel’s, 30 But he shall receive an hundredfold now in this time, houses, and brethren, and sisters, and mothers, and children, and lands, with persecutions; and in the world to come eternal life. 31 But many that are first shall be last; and the last first.” Mark 10:27-31
“He shall receive a hundred fold, houses, &c. – Not in the same kind: for it will generally be with persecutions: but in value: a hundred fold more happiness than any or all of these did or could afford. But let it be observed, none is entitled to this happiness, but he that will accept it with persecutions.” John Wesley
William MacDonald, the Believer’s Bible Commentary:
“10:28-30 Peter caught the drift of the Savior’s teaching. He realized that Jesus was saying, “Forsake all and follow Me.” Jesus confirmed this by promising present and eternal reward to those who forsake all for His sake and the gospel’s.
1. The present reward is 10,000 per cent return, not in money, but in:
a. houses—homes of other people where he is given accommodations as a servant of the Lord.
b. brothers and sisters and mothers and children—Christian friends whose fellowship enriches all of life.
c. lands—countries of the world which he has claimed for the King.
d. persecutions—these are a part of the present reward. It is a cause of rejoicing when one is found worthy to suffer for Jesus’ sake.
2. The future reward is eternal life. This does not mean that we earn eternal life through forsaking all. Eternal life is a gift. Here the thought is that those who forsake all are rewarded with a greater capacity for enjoying eternal life in heaven. All believers will have that life but not all will enjoy it to the same extent.”
FB Meyer writes:
“Mark 10:23-52
TRUE RICHES AND REAL GREATNESS
Wealth brings many temptations. It is not said that rich men cannot get through the gate, but they will have to stoop very low and be stripped of the love of wealth, though not necessarily of wealth itself. In Christ’s kingdom to give all is to get all. The surrendered life needs no pity, for what it loses on the material side is more than compensated by its enormous spiritual gains, Mar_10:30-31. Perhaps the request of the two brethren was dictated rather by the desire to be near the Master than by ambition; but in any case there is only one price to be paid. We must know the fellowship of His sufferings, if we are to share His glory, 2Ti_2:11, etc.”
“The strongest swords are forged in the hottest fires.” unknown
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JUST ANOTHER VATICAN HOAX PERPETRATED BY THE SEMINARIAN PARROTING PAWNS
More proof that Satan can use his agents to stage any hoax he evilly desires and gullible dupes will buy it.
The lie that the new per-versions come from “the earliest manuscripts” is JUST ANOTHER VATICAN HOAX…. and every seminarian dupe for the last many decades was taught this lie. This is just more proof that Satan can use his agents to stage any hoax he evilly desires and gullible dupes will buy it.
“Satan, which deceiveth the whole world” (Revelation 12:9) – SO very many people have been deeply steeped or buried in layer upon layer of lies and deceptions. This is why that when they hear the truth, it’s shocking to them. Some react peaceably and teachably. Others attack the mere messengers of truth – namely the modern pharisees otherwise know as seminarians and their duped students.
The Hebrew and Greek manuscripts were transitional to get the Bible into our language. Some people erroneously want to worship those mere tablets. There’s no value in the communication medium but rather in the pure Word of God itself recorded on the manuscripts or anywhere.
The term “textual criticism” is used by wicked men who are arrogant and wise in their own conceit deciding that they, mere sinners, are going to critique and then change the divinely inspired, preserved Word of God (Psalms 12:6-7). Sound familiar? It should. This all goes back to the temptation of the first man and woman by Satan who cast doubt upon, planted doubt in their minds as to what God plainly stated and upon the authority of the Word, words of God. See Genesis 2:17; 3:1,4. Those involved in “textual criticism” are the modern actors, agents of the serpent in the Garden of Eden (Genesis 3:1). | The “Yea, Hath God Said” Temptation
“Now the serpent was more subtil (insidious, deceitful) than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?” Genesis 3:1
One defender of the true Word of God, in rebuking a seminary parrots writes:
“Keep your ‘textual criticism’ which is a lie. It’s even more absurd to think that everyone up until these other ‘manuscripts’, found in Egypt of all places, were found recently in history all had the wrong, uninspired bible for almost 2000 years with the TR (Textus Receptus-Received Text). Stop working for the Vatican which puts the King James Bible at the top of their Banned Books list. It is YOU who don’t know what you’re talking about, just parroting your ‘professors’ in your vatican controlled colleges and seminaries, all minions of the dark side, and probably don’t even know it.” unknown Bible defender
“Modern scholarship” comes out of the Jesuit-corrupted seminaries. Layers and layers of lies covering its dirty tracks are stacked up to “confirm” the previous lies. Most modern so-called “scholars” use Satan’s “bibles” which is all we need to know! The corrupt defend corrupted “bibles.” Any man who can use those horrible excuses for a Bible is in darkness. What’s that say for the lightweights many call “pastors” today? You have to cast away the “Spirit of truth” and the common sense God gave you to be indoctrinated by the doctors of damnation and to buy into the new “bible” version lies (John 16:13-14). SMH
“Textual criticism” is a term of late and it simply means “We don’t like what the real Bible says and so we are questioning and changing it!” (hence all the fake “bibles”) This is with no exception, the work of Satan’s children. Satan is the one who questioned and changed what God said, from the beginning. It all goes back to the Garden (Genesis 2:17; 3:1, 4). These agents of Satan are counting on lots of deliberately ignorant people buying into their evil agenda, lies, and schemes to deceive, all to the glory of their father the devil (John 8:44; 1 Peter 5:8; Revelation 12:9).
“And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and SATAN, which DECEIVETH THE WHOLE WORLD: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.” Revelation 12:9
What the deceived do not yet realize, is that Satan, who deceives the whole world, has been walking about seeking whom he may devour for 6 thousand years.
“Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour: 9 Whom resist stedfast in the faith, knowing that the same afflictions are accomplished in your brethren that are in the world.” 1 Peter 5:8-9
WHO Changed God’s Word in the Garden? (Genesis 3) And we think he stopped doing so?
Beloved of God, there are elaborate schemes to deceive you that have been underway since way before you were born. It will best serve us to truly humble ourselves before the LORD and His beloved body and allow Him to teach us. We have much to learn!
“Lest Satan should get an advantage of us: for we are not ignorant of his devices.” 2 Corinthians 2:11
Has Satan gained “advantage” over your life by your ignorance?
“My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.” Hosea 4:6
What would you do to deceive the whole world if you were Satan? Well, we gain a clue as to what Satan has done to deceive the whole world as we read Genesis 3. The most subtle, the most insidious creature cast doubt on what God had said (His Word) – “hath God said?” (v1). Then, the enemy of all souls added just one 3-letter word that led to the fall of mankind – “ye shall NOT surely die” (v4) said the great deceiver after God had told the man and woman definitively that they would “surely die” if they sinned against their holy Creator (2:17).
Satan has no new devices to use against mankind (1 Corinthians 10:13; Ecclesiastes 1:9). He uses the same exact deceptions and those who are not truly walking with Jesus in His truth will certainly be deceived and ultimately damned (2 Thessalonians 2:9-12). If Satan cast doubt upon (removed from), and added to what God had said in the Garden to the first man and woman, can we ascertain what the great deceiver does to mislead and damn the souls of men today? Yes!
Satan is the author of the corruption, the altering, the changing of God’s words, Word (Genesis 2:17, 3:1,4; Jeremiah 23:36; Mark 4:15; Revelation 22:18-19, etc.).
The manuscripts are the difference. Kenny Moore writes:
“Many have bought into the New Age Bible version lie. All modern versions come from ‘Satan’s Satanic Verses’/ the Septuagint, Sinaiticus, and Vaticanus—all proven to be blasphemous, counterfeit, and corrupt. These Satanic MSS (manuscripts) come from the underground catacombs of the dead in Roma, Italia (Rome, Italy). Catholics are forbidden to read the Authorized King James Bible, but the modern ‘versions’ are OK! Why? THE NEW VERSIONS ARE CATHOLIC > NEW WORLD ORDER > Antichrist Luciferian Trash Theology.”
The “earlier” manuscripts turned out to be just another lie. Lie stacked on top of lie to cover up the work of Satan himself through his Vatican agents. The lake of fire awaits! (Revelation 22:18-19) No man of truth excuses this butchering of God’s Word. Only those in total darkness would do such. | The New Version “bibles” are Vatican Corrupted and Controlled
Anyone defending these corruptions of God’s Word is being empowered by “the spirit of antichrist.” (1 John 4:3) You don’t really think the Holy Spirit is behind their attack against the LORD and His Word, do you? Impossible (1 Corinthians 14:33).
by David W. Daniels
Is the “World’s Oldest Bible” a Fake?
Modern research techniques have revealed a hidden scheme aimed at God’s Holy Words…
Modern Bibles have changed many verses because of the discovery of an “ancient” manuscript in a monastery on the Sinai Peninsula.
The manuscript, called Sinaiticus, is claimed to be the earliest complete copy of the New Testament. Its discoverer, who was a world leading Bible scholar in his time, told the world Sinaiticus was from the 4th century and that it was the “oldest and best” Bible available.
Publishers rushed to make new Bibles with many changes to match it.
But not everyone agreed. When this famed 19th century Bible scholar, Constantine Von Tischendorf, claimed the ancient date, a well-known Greek calligrapher said, “No! I made that document!” But why did no one believe him? Maybe it’s because pages of the manuscript were stored where no one could view them, archived in exclusive collections across several continents.
Now, an international group has carefully photographed each page of Sinaiticus and is displaying it on the internet as high-quality digital images. For the first time, Bible scholars and students can see the entire manuscript together, as was never possible before. And what they are seeing with their own eyes is shocking. Some of the pages are white and look quite new, while others have been darkened to make them look very old. If they are all from the same “old” Bible, how can this be?
Researcher David W. Daniels proves with easy-to-understand evidence that the Sinaiticus is not the oldest manuscript and certainly not the best, either. He is also convincing in showing it’s not old after all and that the Greek calligrapher did make it, in the 19th century.
The textual (and doctrinal) changes in modern Bibles are based upon a fake —a shadowy scheme worthy of Satan’s hatred for the preserved words of God.
The utter and irrefutable proof that the “world’s oldest” manuscripts are a fraud, a scam. “All textual criticism today is of Satan.”
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