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Pentecost or Peters?

“Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. 39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.” Acts 2:38-39

Pentecost or Peters? Justin Peters says that the LORD doesn’t intend for all of His disciples to speak with other tongues. Is this true or is this false? What does God’s Word teach us on this matter?
Firstly, this is not a salvation issue. Being filled with the Spirit is a privilege, a “gift,” for those who want all God has for them and are willing to forsake tradition (Acts 2:38-39). In 1 Corinthians 12:30 Paul is connecting tongues and interpretation of tongues. He’s not speaking of individuals being blessed to pray in tongues on their own privately at any time. Otherwise, he’s contradicting what he said in chapter 14:

“I would that ye all spake with tongues …” 1 Corinthians 14:5

“I thank my God, I speak with tongues more than ye all.” 1 Corinthians 14:18

“Forbid not to speak with tongues.” 1 Corinthians 14:39

If tongues is not God’s will for His people, why decades after Pentecost did the apostle Paul say “I would that ye ALL spake with tongues …” 1 Corinthians 14:5 ?

Individual Tongues?

If tongues aren’t for individual use, why did the LORD’s apostle Paul say “He that speaketh in an unknown tongue edifieth HIMSELF (individually)”? (1 Corinthians 14:4) Note also that individual tongues are “unknown” unless God gives the interpretation. This makes it clear that New Testament tongues cannot be limited to speaking in a known language of the earth as happened on the day of Pentecost (Acts 2). “Unknown tongue” means just that – “unknown,” to mankind, not an earthly language.

Tongues are also for corporate use with interpretation (1 Corinthians 14).

Some have been told that they are not filled with the Spirit unless they speak with tongues.

To the extent of my limited knowledge and understanding, 1) I do not believe that individuals should say who has and who hasn’t been filled with the Spirit, and yet, 2) I will not deny that the biblical evidence of being baptized with the Spirit seems to show that tongues is the initial evidence. I caution you not to get too caught up with what men say and to simply seek God on this matter and for His fulness. Get into God’s Word yourself on this matter and turn off the voices of mere men (including this one if need be).

“He that speaketh in an unknown tongue edifieth himself; but he that prophesieth edifieth the church.” 1 Corinthians 14:4

The above verse further delineates personally praying in tongues from the Spirit’s gifts in the corporate gatherings.

Lest some become too hung up on tongues, let’s assume from Scripture that the core issue is being filled with the Spirit. Tongues is simply a gift of that Holy Spirit which Jesus sent to baptize (immerse) His people (John 16:7; Acts 2:38-39; 10:44-48; 19:1-6, etc.). If as born again believers we ask to be baptized with His Spirit, He hears and grants this request. Jesus specifically promised that the Father would do so (Luke 11:11-13). It is my opinion that we should all seek to be filled with His Spirit and seek Him to pray in the Spirit (Romans 8:26-27; 1 Corinthians 14:4-5, 18, 39; Jude 20). There are tremendous benefits to doing so and He told us to “Forget not all his benefits.” (Psalms 103:2)

Excuses, Excuses, Excuses

The apostles thought it so important to make sure every born again kingdom saint was filled with the Holy Spirit. When some in Samaria were saved, Peter and John went down and that they’d be filled with the Spirit. Are you baptized with the Holy Ghost?

“Now when the apostles which were at Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent unto them Peter and John: 15 Who, when they were come down, prayed for them, that they might receive the Holy Ghost: 16 (For as yet he was fallen upon none of them: only they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.) 17 Then laid they their hands on them, and they received the Holy Ghost.” Acts 8:14-17

Some of those who don’t want to surrender fully in order to be baptized with the Holy Spirit attempt to find Scriptural justification for their stand against being full of the Spirit. Instead of trashing what they’ve been falsely taught, some lamely make excuse for not being full of the Holy Spirit. Here’s what they use:

“Have all the gifts of healing? do all speak with tongues? do all interpret?” 1 Corinthians 12:30

Here the apostle is speaking of corporate gatherings and the use of the gifts of the Spirit in those gatherings. Earlier in this chapter, Paul introduces the 9 gifts of the Holy Spirit, all of which are for their use in corporate gatherings.

“But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal. 8 For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit; 9 To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit; 10 To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues: 11 But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will.” 1 Corinthians 12:7-11

You see there has to be “tongues” in a corporate setting in order for God to have instituted “the interpretation of tongues.” Right? To deny one is to deny both and to deny the LORD Himself. That is, unless one is selectively choosing what in the Bible he is going to believe. If one is going to doubt this plainly revealed truth, the whole Bible must be doubted. Right?

Here’s another cop-out some use:

“I would that ye all spake with tongues, but rather that ye prophesied: for greater is he that prophesieth than he that speaketh with tongues, except he interpret, that the church may receive edifying.” 1 Corinthians 14:5

The fact that Paul says here that prophesying is more important than tongues does not change the fact that he said “I would that ye all spake with tongues.” So once again, some insist upon lamely using dishonesty in order to hold to tradition instead of forsaking tradition for truth. Paul is simply saying that operating in God’s gifts that edify the body of Christ (others) is more Christ-like in that it serves others. THAT is no way negates the importance and privilege of praying in the Spirit individually when alone.

The truth has been covered over many centuries of the traditions of mere men. The enemy has dumbed down the gifts and power and experience of the Holy Ghost God intends for all His children. We must read Acts and see the true representation of original New Testament Christianity. God has not changed. We must go back to the New Testament Scriptures. The LORD’s program has not changed. Devil-inspired religious men have changed it.
Well, all who are born again have the Holy Spirit in them (Rom. 8:9). The Holy Spirit is testifying and working in the life of every person who has been born again and is abiding in Christ today (Rom. 8:12-16; 1 John 2:20, 27; 3:24, etc.). It’s also true that unless we are filled/baptized with the Spirit we cannot have the greatest measure of the power of God to do His work (Acts 1:8). His “power” comes from being filled with His blessed Holy Spirit. God bless you.

Beware of those who though they do some good discernment work, seek to remove things God intended for His beloved body. Learn God’s Word for yourselves and cease following any mere man’s line through Scripture. If you don’t thoroughly learn and know God’s Word, you will be misled. Here in this audio we discuss how Justin Peters, a man who has some good discernment teachings and exposés, goes too far and seeks to subtract from God’s kingdom Word. Are we not warned to never take away from His Word? (Revelation 22:18-19)

As a regenerated, new creature in Christ, you are Christ’s “ambassador” and please don’t lose site of such truth (2 Corinthians 5:17-20). Never be ashamed of Pentecost for self-righteous, hyper conservative Baptists or so-called “evangelicals.” You are identified with the nail-scarred, risen Savior and LORD Jesus Christ, not an organization of mere men who feign to be representing Christ and Christianity. We have Bibles and so can know His will for ourselves and follow Him alone. The word “conservative” appears no where in Scripture. We are bought with the very and precious blood of Christ and are His disciples. We follow Him and HE gave us His written Word. Be not ashamed beloved of any part of the whole counsel of God’s Word. Your whole identity is in the nail-scarred, risen, and only Savior.

Many of these so-called evangelical, hyper-conservatives (unwarranted) want to be in control. They don’t want the Holy Spirit fully in control because that would take the control out of their hands. This is one of the reasons the false leaders of Jesus’ day hated Him. They were jealous of Him because He was grabbing the attention of the masses whom they sought to keep under their own evil control.

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Matthew 7:6

“Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.”

God’s wisdom is that you have to get rid of the “SCORNER” in order to get rid of the “STRIFE”.

“Cast out the SCORNER, and contention shall go out; yea, STRIFE and reproach shall cease.” Proverbs 22:10

How do we know when someone has truly repented?

“… to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance.” Acts 26:20

When someone has truly repented, their changed life will be full of the fruit of the Spirit.

“Bring forth fruits meet for repentance” simply means prove you’ve repented with the corresponding restitution of making things right (Matthew 3:7-10; Luke 19:8-9, etc.).

Luke 17

1 Then said he unto the disciples, It is impossible but that offences will come: but woe unto him, through whom they come!
2 It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones.
3 Take heed to yourselves: If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him; and if he repent, forgive him.
4 And if he trespass against thee seven times in a day, and seven times in a day turn again to thee, saying, I repent; thou shalt forgive him.

“And that we may be delivered from unreasonable and wicked men: for all men have not faith.” 2 Thessalonians 3:2

“Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.” Matthew 10:16

Jesus saw the heart and proof of Zacchaeus’ repentance and granted him salvation.

“And Zacchaeus stood, and said unto the Lord; Behold, Lord, the half of my goods I give to the poor; and if I have taken any thing from any man by false accusation, I restore him fourfold. 9 And Jesus said unto him, This day is salvation come to this house, forsomuch as he also is a son of Abraham. 10 For the Son of man is come to seek and to save that which was lost.” Luke 19:8-10

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“Them that Love Him”

——WHAT one temporarily has in this fleeting world or doesn’t have, has NOTHING to do with that person’s spiritual state. This is what Jesus taught: “Take heed, and beware of covetousness: for a man’s life consisteth not in the abundance of the things which he possesseth.” (Luke 12:15) In fact James says:

“HEARKEN, MY BELOVED BRETHREN, HATH NOT GOD CHOSEN THE POOR OF THIS WORLD RICH IN FAITH, AND HEIRS OF THE KINGDOM WHICH HE HATH PROMISED TO THEM THAT LOVE HIM?” JAMES 2:5

James says God chooses those for His eternal kingdom “that love him,” namely “the poor of this world.” We are justified by “faith” and not by what we do or do not temporarily possess in this fleeting life.

IF in your mind you rate people by what they have or don’t have in this fleeting sinful world, you are deeply deceived and in utter need of repentance and the washing of water by the Word of God. You are carnally minded (Romans 8:5-6).

Regrettably, it seems that most people professing to be following Christ, the One who gave all, are not the least bit concerned if their brother or sister has a need. God have mercy upon us and grant us repentance in Jesus’ Name! Are these people truly saved?

“Hereby perceive we the love of God, because he laid down his life for us: and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren. 17 But whoso hath this world’s good, and seeth his brother have need, and shutteth up his bowels of compassion from him, how dwelleth the love of God in him? 18 My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in deed and in truth. 19 And hereby we know that we are of the truth, and shall assure our hearts before him.” 1 John 3:16-19

“If we are in Jesus we have the unsearchable riches of Christ (Ephesians 3:8). Unfathomable (in our small minds), infinite wealth and spiritual blessings! Endless mercy, grace, and forgiveness. That is inexhaustible! Why do we need any worldly riches that will rot and corrupt our hearts!? Lay up in your hearts God’s riches! Which are eternal!” Karen Cochran

Some have tens of thousands in the bank and could care less to find out if a sister or brother has a need. The Bible assures us that they are not saved. If you have even a little to give and don’t, it’s because you simply have chosen not to know and abide in Christ.

“What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him? 15 If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food, 16 And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit? 17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.” James 2:14-17

The financial institutions and their salesmen are vying for your money. They want your money to invest so that you and they earn a financial gain in this life. Christians in need, orphans, and Gospel workers are also available to invest in. To help them is to invest in the LORD’s kingdom and be repaid dividends for eternity. Oh, and your heart will follow where you choose to place your money. Jesus says “Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal: 20 But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal: 21 For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.” (Matthew 6:19-21)

PRAYER: Holy Father, please break me and make me Your authentic follower. Jesus I love You. Let me walk as You walked, live as You lived, love as You love. Bless this life You gave to be truly crucified with You – dead, buried, and raised up – a vessel of honor for Your glory! In Jesus’ name.

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“The steps of a good man are ordered by the Lord: and he delighteth in his way.” Psalms 37:23

“So teach us to number our days, that we may apply our hearts unto wisdom.” Psalms 90:12

“Safety” in wise counsel from God’s wisdom, Word, and including at times with the help of His beloved saints.

“Where no counsel is, the people fall: but in the multitude of counsellors there is safety.” Proverbs 11:14

“The horse is prepared against the day of battle: but safety is of the LORD.” Proverbs 21:31

“For by wise counsel thou shalt make thy war: and in multitude of counsellors there is safety.” Proverbs 24:6

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“Who is a wise man and endued with knowledge among you? let him shew out of a good conversation his works with meekness of wisdom. 14 But if ye have bitter envying and strife in your hearts, glory not, and lie not against the truth. 15 This wisdom descendeth not from above, but is earthly, sensual, devilish. 16 For where envying and strife is, there is confusion and every evil work. 17 But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be intreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy. 18 And the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace of them that make peace.” James 3:13-18

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