Was Charles Stanley true or false? WHERE is Charles Stanley?
“One of the most troubling problems within the church today is the unwavering loyalty to a ‘christian’ personality rather than to Christ and His Word. The unwillingness to test every man’s teaching with God’s Word, coupled with a stubborn lack of discernment, produces fertile ground for deception to flourish.” Evangeline DiChristi
LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT…So this evil heretic, Charles Stanley, spent his whole life on earth lying to people, peddling SATAN’s first DAMNING lie (OSAS), sending many to eternal damnation with his heresies, telling people homosexuality – an “abomination” to God – will not keep them from Heaven, etc., and yet we can’t know where Charles Stanley is? What kind of a truth-despising counterfeit would possibly claim this man went to Heaven? See Leviticus 18:22. Sounds like some folks who believe they are saved are fully deceived in that conclusion. It’s time to repent before it’s too late. You’ve called the Almighty a liar which makes you a hell bound liar (Revelation 21:8). Repent or perish.
THIS WEEK several, including long time “friends” unfriended me due to declaring that every false teacher is going to hell, with no exception – and that’s where Charles Stanley is presumably – due to his decision to be the enemy of Christ by teaching contrary to His Word for decades (2 Peter 2:1-3). No apology. I believe 100% he’s there and there’s good Bible reason for it. There is no Bible reason for any false teacher to go to Heaven. Repent now.
The truth of God alone will destroy the delusions. This blessing only happens in those who will humble themselves before the Almighty and truly, sincerely search out, listen to, believe, and take Him at His Word. KJB (2 Timothy 2:15-3:16-17).
Charles Stanley now knows the damning eternal security/osas lie he perpetrated against the counsel of the Almighty was false. Like Cain, Charles Stanley chose his own way, to do things his own way instead of God’s. He led many into deception and the ditch of eternal destruction. Do you pretend to love God and yet dare show more respect to this vile enemy of Christ than Christ Himself and those millions he deceived?
People have created such soul ties with mere men and therefore when those idols are exposed they erupt into a fury.
“Verily every man at his BEST state is altogether vanity. Selah.” Psalms 39:5
“According to Galatians 1:8-9, Charles Stanley was ‘accursed.’ Sadly, I have a friend grieving over the loss of Charles Stanley and in her rebellion against God, she will not listen to truth. Charles Stanley preached ‘another gospel.'” A Disciple
REPENT when there’s no reason to? After all, Charles Stanley taught and fully believed and was turned over by God Himself to this eternal security lie (2 Thessalonians 2:10-12). SO, what makes us think he would repent in the end when he believed he had no accountability, no personally responsibility to repent because in his own deliberately delusional mind he’s “once saved always saved”? Right?
OSAS / eternal security is a lie from hell embraced by moral cowards who refuse to truly repent, deny themselves, take up the cross daily and follow Jesus for real (Luke 9:23-24).
WHY O WHY would it be difficult to believe that God is going to damn to hell His enemies? Wow. HAVE YOU had an enemy? Specifically, has anyone ever lied about you? Has anyone ever told lies about you? If so, were they in good standing with you? No. Now, think about the nature of the lawless lies Charles Stanley told against God all of his natural life. What if they lied about you for a long time? What if they lied about you for your whole life? Would they be in right standing with you? No. Let’s wake up. God will justly damn the souls of every “false prophet” and “false teacher,” and He has told us just that (2 Peter 2:1-3). If you don’t believe this biblical truth and make concession for sinful evil wolves, this clearly proves you do not love nor fear God and are an idolater of mere men and cursed (Jeremiah 17:5). Laughable. Sinful. Foolish. Damning. Repent now.
“Undoubtedly. Few are even willing to call them (the false teachers) out! A good example is Charles Stanley. He preached the false OSAS doctrine and refused to call out false teachers. Even his own son was not taught to be discerning. Andy teaches many damnable hersesies including preaching that homosexuality is not a sin and they are welcome in his ‘church’, even in leadership positions. Instead Charles befriended many of these false teachers (including Billy Graham)! Sad but he will certainly be held accountable by God. We MUST tell the truth in love! Whether people want to hear it or not. It is a command of Jesus to spread the Good News uncompromisingly to ALL. It is not a pick and choose/ buffet choice matter. We must share the whole saving Gospel of Salvation and Repentance without leaving anything out!” Barbara
Are Christ’s disciples to judge sin in our midst? YES!
“Judge righteous judgment.” John 7:24
“For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? 13 But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.” 1 Corinthians 5:12-13
“Open Rebuke” vs “Secret Love”
“Open rebuke is better than secret love. Faithful are the wounds of a friend; but the kisses of an enemy are deceitful.” Proverbs 27:5-6
Recently a man was publicly preaching Satan’s OSAS lie. In an “open rebuke” to him I replied:
“(his name) <<< is a moral coward who hides behind lies because he won’t repent for real, man-up, die to self, live the crucified life, and walk in the light with Christ who is HOLY and returning for His true Church which is “a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish” (Ephesians 5:27; Luke 9:23-24; 1 John 1:7). And (the man’s name) is a diabolical heretic for perpetrating the first lie ever told to man by SATAN which caused the fall of man – irrefutably (Genesis 2:17; 3:4). Time to repent sinner, and cease making excuse for your sins (Proverbs 28:13).”
“That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.” Ephesians 5:27
These defenders of Charles Stanley, a man who profusely promulgated the satanic doctrine of devils of OSAS prove they are on Satan’s side and have made themselves the enemies of Christ.
These OSAS counterfeits have lied against the LORD, they have “belied the LORD”:
“They have belied the LORD, and said, It is not he; neither shall evil come upon us; neither shall we see sword nor famine:” Jeremiah 5:12
“Hebrew for belied ‘kaw-khash’
A primitive root; to be untrue, in word (to lie, feign, disown) or deed (to disappoint, fail, cringe): – deceive, deny, dissemble, fail, deal falsely, be found liars, (be-) lie, lying, submit selves.”
MANY of the OSAS defenders are pitiful pansies (dishonest moral cowards) who refuse to repent, deny self, take up the cross daily, and follow Jesus in the crucified life He mandates for anyone who will truly know and follow Him (Luke 9:23-24). This is why they fiercely defend demonic wolves like Charles Stanley, an enemy of Christ who preached this doctrine of devils.
Demons and their doctrines, “doctrines of devils” are inseparably married – 1 Timothy 4:1-2. If OSAS isn’t a doctrine of devils, there’s no such thing as a doctrine “of devils.” Yet the Bible uses these very words and so we know that ANY person who believe the satanic lie of OSAS has demons. It doesn’t matter if they believe this or not – they have demons.
“Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; 2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;” 1 Timothy 4:1-2
Did you notice that departing from the faith is specifically included as a doctrine of devils here in this passage above?
God uses heresies to divide between the authentic and the fake (mere professors).
“For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you.” 1 Corinthians 11:19
Jesus came and gave us His truth in order to clearly separate… a sword separates – divides.
“Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.” Matthew 10:34
The truth is the occasion of division – between those who are truly of God and those who aren’t. See John 8:47.
Homosexuals in Heaven? No! Leviticus 18:22… and some people claiming to be following Jesus are viciously attacking me for stating the Biblically obvious. | God says homosexuality is an “abomination” to Him (Leviticus 18:22). | Charles Stanley said homosexuals will be in Heaven.
IF Biblical truth destroys your delusions, why not just get happy and thank God? Didn’t He inform us that He gave us His Word to do just that – for “correction” or correcting us? Boom (2 Timothy 3:16-17).
My personal conviction is to preach the Bible with no human reasoning. I fear for the eternal soul of anyone teaching that doctrine of devils.
Charles Stanley is dead and in hell. He now knows the damning eternal security/osas lie he perpetrated against the counsel of the Almighty was false. He made a lot of money doing it.
Like Cain, Stanley chose his own way, to do things his own way instead of God’s. He led many into deception and the ditch of eternal destruction.
THE ONLY REASON A PERSON WOULD BELIEVE THAT CHARLES STANLEY IS WITH GOD IN HEAVEN IS THAT SUCH A PERSON LOVES HIMSELF AND A MERE MAN, A SINNER (CHARLES STANLEY) MORE THAN JESUS…..
LAUGHABLE IF IT WEREN’T SO PITIFUL: Contrast the fact that the Berean disciples tested the LORD’s apostle Paul against the Word of God and now we have biblically-illiterate dupes who are defending a known, blatant demonic operative named Charles Stanley. They refuse to honestly test this wolf against Holy Scripture.
“And the brethren immediately sent away Paul and Silas by night unto Berea: who coming thither went into the synagogue of the Jews. 11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.” Acts 17:10-11
“Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try (test) the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.” 1 John 4:1
The wicked among us are digging their way into hell… “they dig into hell” (Amos 9:2).
“I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.” Luke 13:3
Tares prove their own counterfeit status when they love and defend the lies the false prophets peddle. They “love to have it so.”
“The prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests bear rule by their means ($); and my people love to have it so: and what will ye do in the end thereof?” Jeremiah 5:31
Many have created a soul tie with the famous personalities of “ministries” in apostate America. They love the lies these people feed them because they themselves have not repented, are not truly serving Christ in the daily cross – which He said is essential or one is not following Him (Luke 9:23-24). So, they will fight viciously to defend the mere man or woman they’ve idolized and have become accustomed to receiving lies from them. They will listen to endless episodes from the wolves that are misleading them and yet do little or nothing to seek the LORD in His own Word. They love to try to protect their delusion they hide behind (Jeremiah 5:31).
“Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine. 3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; 4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.” 2 Timothy 4:2-4
The truth of God destroys the delusions of those who will humble themselves before the Almighty and truly, sincerely search out, listen to, and believe Him at His Word (2 Timothy 2:15-3:16-17 KJB).
Tell HIS truth NO MATTER WHAT saints! (John 17:17; Romans 3:4)
Lynne Parker states:
“What a horrible conclusion and frightening realization regarding Charles Stanley, yet God’s Word states emphatically the end of such false teaching. It should raise a godly fear in us all.”
ANY and all who teach OSAS are liars, false teachers, and headed for hell – with no exception (2 Peter 2:1-3). Repent of the compromise.
Charles Stanley and anyone teaching OSAS is a false teacher and false prophet….OSAS was SATAN’s first teaching, first lie, which led to the fall of mankind and is still damning millions (Genesis 2:17; 3:4). “Heresies” is one of the 17 soul damning sins on the list cited in Galatians 5:19-21. So anyone preaching a lie is going to fry, period. Such a person, such as Charles Stanley, is by biblical definition, a “false teacher.”
OSAS is the first lie ever told and it was told by Satan himself and directly led to the fall of mankind (Genesis 2:17; 3:4). This cannot be refuted. And so anyone teaching or defending in any way this lie is in need of repentance. Their defense of this lie of Satan reveals they are false teachers and on his side, not Christ’s.
Be encouraged to lock this passage in…. whatever you do. We are going to be dealing with biblically-illiterate counterfeits till Jesus returns and you will need this ammo as you “earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.” See Jude 3-4.
The JUDGE has spoken! CAN YOU READ?
AFTER reading 2 Peter 2:1-3 there should be absolutely NO doubt that every “false teacher” and “false prophet” will be going to “damnation.” Boom. Case closed. GOD the JUDGE has spoken. Anyone who questions Him proves to be a child of Satan himself (Genesis 3:1).
God told us specifically that EVERY “false teacher” and “false prophet” will have “DAMNATION” (2 Peter 2:1-3). They are going to hell for lying against the LORD, His Word.
Jude specifically mandates that God’s people earnestly contend against the “ungodly men” who peddle this grace-perverting lie – OSAS (Jude 3-4).
CHARLES STANLEY was a lying devil and in my opinion he is 100% in hell. The Bible makes that crystal clear. You going to call the LORD a liar?
Make Hell Known Again!
Make God’s Word Great Again – in the minds of rebels – “Let God be true and EVERY man a liar” (Romans 3:4). Unbelief is a soul damning sin (Hebrews 3:12-15).
Hell awaits all who die in sin. You’ve been warned.
Repent and follow Jesus daily by the cross life – or get ready to burn.
People prove who they are by how they treat (embrace or reject) the knowledge of God He gave us in His Word.
“He that is OF GOD heareth God’s words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are NOT OF GOD.” John 8:47
When I made this post, and do not apologize for it… it seems more than obvious that this vile enemy of Christ taught his filth all the way to his death AND the very nature of such a lie would not necessitate, would not lead him to truly repent before he drew his last breath.
“(For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ: 19 whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things.)” Philippians 3:18-19
SO, let me get this straight, a man can teach heresies, spit in the face of God for his whole natural life and YET because he called himself a pastor and got millions of people to like and listen to his lies, then he’s going to the Heaven of the holy God whom he deliberately lied about during his earthly whole life? Man you need to get saved if you believe that, sinner! Repent now you vile enemy of the LORD!
Yes, and anyone who reads God’s Word knows that God is “Holy, holy, holy,” and that anyone who dies in sin is going to hell irrevocably. The wages of sin is STILL death (Romans 6:23).
MANY are fighting to defend Satan’s wolves while claiming to be following Jesus! Wow (2 Corinthians 11:12-15).
God has turned them over to “strong delusion” (2 Thessalonians 2:9-12).
The religious industry is big busine$$! (Read 2 Peter 2:1-3; Romans 16:17-18.)
It’s all a big game and you are the prey, the target, the intended victim. Get into God’s Word for yourself and only then will He give you a clue – His truth (Hosea 4:6).
“Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.” 2 Timothy 2:15
Charles Stanley had a huge “call center.” Surely you’re not going to say it was for prayer. No, any ministry that has a large call center is doing so to collect money. Big call center equals big money. Stop the disingenuous dishonesty now!
Defending Satan’s false teachers clearly proves you are on Satan’s side, not Christ’s! Repent now vile antichrist (Matthew 12:30; 2 Corinthians 11:12-15).
“People would rather be comfortable in a lie which is what they tell.” Dana Carter
Yes, they are defending their own rebellion
“For I am the LORD, I change not…” Malachi 3:6
I’m sorry, can someone please explain to us all WHEN God ceases to be “Holy, holy, holy” and when the wages of sin cease to be death? Waiting (Romans 6:23; Isaiah 6:3; Revelation 4:8; Hebrews 12:14).
Unless the Almighty changed, all rebels, every false teacher is immediately in hell upon dying. Period. It’s time to repent and take God at His Word OR cease claiming we know Him whom we are calling a liar if we don’t believe what He plainly stated.
“Let GOD be true and EVERY man a liar.” Romans 3:4
Charles Stanley is not in Heaven. Get a biblical clue! You only want to believe that because you care more about that vile sinner than the LORD you falsely claim to serve!
Those who are not engrossed daily in the Word of God are backslidden and walking in darkness. They are under the power and deception of “Satan” himself because they don’t truly love the LORD, and that’s why they don’t esteem His Word as final divine authority. God told on these rebels in advance so they’d have the opportunity to repent for real and get right with Him before it’s too late. Check this out.
“Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.” 2 Thessalonians 2:9-12
The reason people get so upset about the conclusion that Charles Stanley is in hell is because they themselves are in darkness and don’t want to truly repent, and so they want to believe they are safe and secure. Hell awaits.
“And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.” John 3:19-21
If you knew Jesus, you’d know what He stated in His Word. Yet you don’t because you love darkness rather than light, you love your life in this fleeting world and are on the broad way that leads to destruction (Matthew 7:13-14). IF you are man enough, keep reading.
IF the heart of man is the source of righteousness and unrighteousness (and it is), if you can’t know another man’s heart, to some degree, their spiritual state, WHY O WHY did Jesus command us to “know” (discern) people “by their fruits”? WHY would our LORD instruct us to discern others and “know” them by “fruits” of their life if that’s not what He wanted us to do? And if we are obeying Him by discerning people “by their fruits” are we not going to find some of those people to have bad fruit…..And just WHAT does that bad fruit say of the heart of the person it’s coming out of? Hmmmmm.
When Jesus says “Judge righteous judgment” He’s not speaking of condemning anyone, He’s speaking of discerning them (John 7:24). It’s His place alone to judge those who refuse His salvation plan, not ours (James 1:20). Yet, He, the Judge Himself, commands us to discern, to examine, to “know” others “by their fruits.”
Let’s put a fresh eye on this severe warning of Jesus concerning being a false prophet and discerning false leaders:
“Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. 16 YE SHALL KNOW THEM BY THEIR FRUITS. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? 17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. 19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. 20 Wherefore BY THEIR FRUITS YE SHALL KNOW (discern) them. 21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.” Matthew 7:16-21
TO CLAIM WE CAN’T KNOW WHERE SOMEONE IS WHEN THEY DIE IS TO FALSELY CLAIM…
1. That God didn’t thoroughly address this issue (2 Timothy 3:16-17; 2 Peter 1:3-4).
2. To claim you don’t really know and/or believe God’s Word which means you have called the Almighty a liar and are living in damnable unbelief (Numbers 23:17; Malachi 3:6; Mark 13:31, etc.).
3. To claim that we can’t know these things the LORD has spoken of.
4. Claim to not truly believe what God says which makes you a lost soul.
Gutless moral cowards don’t know God’s Word because they’ve been playing and not truly fearing, obeying, and walking with Christ (John 3:19-21). Counterfeits. This is why they rise up against His truth.
They will be destroyed for lack of knowledge because they’ve rejected His knowledge – His Word. They’ve been too busy chasing the fleeting trinkets of this fallen temporal world.
“My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because THOU HAST REJECTED KNOWLEDGE, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.” Hosea 4:6
So, God told us things in His Word and yet you call Him a liar?
“God is not a man, that he should lie.” Numbers 23:19
SO many among us are living in the flesh out of a carnal, wicked and uncircumcised heart (Jeremiah 4:3-4; 17:5-10; Hosea 10:12; Ephesians 5:25-27; Hebrews 3:12-15; 4:12; 5:11-14, etc.). The circumcising of the heart only transpires in the lives of those who truly love God and therefore diligently study the two edge sword of His Word which circumcises their hearts.
“For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.” Hebrews 4:12
ANY person who doesn’t walk according to God’s written Word “shall be destroyed.” Not only are many who claim to know Christ not agreeing with His Word, they are attacking it, and His messengers who merely put HIS Word forth.
“Whoso despiseth the word shall be destroyed: but he that feareth the commandment shall be rewarded.” Proverbs 13:13
One lady gave the typical cop out of negating the whole counsel of Scripture with the “God knows the heart” excuse. Such are misusing God’s Word and calling God a liar as they ignore what His Word states (2 Corinthians 2:17). Jesus plainly taught that the fruit of a man’s life CLEARLY proves what’s in his heart (Matthew 7:16, 20; 12:34). Regrettably they don’t know this simple truth because they are not disciples, not a man or woman of truth – they are not “valiant for the truth” of God (Jeremiah 9:3). It’s time to get into God’s Word and cease bearing false witness against the LORD.
Where do actions, where does fruit flow from? – the hearts of men. See Mark 7:20-23…. What did Jesus tell us in Matthew 7:16, 20 and 12:34? How do we know who someone is? – “by their fruits” (Matthew 7:16, 20). Jesus commands us to “know” ourselves and others by our/their “fruits.” Did Jesus call His people to be fruit inspectors? Yes! Also, do you know about the gift of the Spirit called “the discerning of spirits”? See 1 Corinthians 12:10. Why did the LORD instruct us to keep, to guard our hearts? – because the issues of life flow from our hearts (Proverbs 4:23). As goes the heart, so goes the life, the fruit of our lives. And, do we not know that people who know us are witnessing what is flowing from, what fruit is issuing from our lives, our hearts?
The LORD is calling those who claim to be His and don’t know His Word thoroughly, to repent. GOD has spoken and many who pretend to be His are contradicting what He stated. Ever heard of His Word, the Bible? Have you studied it (King James Bible) honestly, thoroughly, organically? YOU are calling him a liar. Apparently, you have no clue what Scripture teaches, and the Word instructs you to keep quiet until all you have to say is HIS Word (Prov. 18:13; 2 Tim. 2:15).
Unless God’s Word is a lie, irrefutably, Stanley is burning in hell…
GOD says that every “false prophet” and every “false teacher” is going to hell – shall have “damnation.” You going to call the LORD a liar?
Of every “false prophet” and “false teacher among you” (posing as Christian leaders), the LORD says “their damnation slumbereth not.” Boom.
False Prophets and Teachers
“But there were FALSE PROPHETS also among the people, even as there shall be FALSE TEACHERS among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift DESTRUCTION. 2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. 3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose JUDGMENT now of a long time lingereth not, and THEIR DAMNATION SLUMBERETH NOT.” 2 Peter 2:1-3
“Slumbereth not” simply means it’s of a certainty coming – that their “damnation” in hell is absolute, sure, guaranteed by God!
All “FALSE PROPHETS … among the people” and “FALSE TEACHERS” will “bring upon themselves swift DESTRUCTION” … “JUDGMENT” and “DAMNATION.” (2 Peter 2:1-3)
Bible Question: WHERE do all “false teachers” and “false prophets” go when they die? 2 Peter 2:1-3
Key words in this passage are highlighted in order to help the astute Bible student grasp the divine conveyance.
IF you don’t study, know, understand, and take God at His Word, it’s because you are full of the love of self, and have “an evil heart of unbelief” and are going to be damned if you don’t repent.
“Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God. 13 But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin. 14 For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end; 15 While it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts, as in the provocation.” Hebrews 3:12-15
Charles Stanley taught the OSAS doctrine of devils all his life and even said that “homo-sexuals” who’d had one profession of faith in the past would be in Heaven. The man was a child of Satan. Get over it.
GREAT to hear from men who truly believe what God says. ALL others are hell bound and we are seeing many rebels who hide in their darkness, manifested in this post alone.
Bro Fred Fory, Jr. writes:
“1 Cor. 9:27 – Paul said unless he was able to keep his body under subjection he would be a castaway. Will there be castaways in heaven? Paul Again – Rom. 11:21-22 – ‘If God spared not the natural branches (Israel), take heed lest He spare not thee, (Church). Behold, therefore, the goodness and severity of God; on them which fell severity; but toward thee goodness, if thou continue in His goodness, otherwise thou (saved) also shall be cut off.’ Paul continues in Heb. 10:26-29 – that if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins — only judgment and fiery indignation.’ Paul said ‘we,’ including himself and the church.”
Chad Johnson notes:
“Sadly, it’s true.
Revelation 22:18-19 (KJV) ’18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: 19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and [from] the things which are written in this book.’
Charles Stanley did this by teaching OSAS.”
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WHY was Satan expelled from God’s presence, from Heaven? What happened the last time sin was found in Heaven? Did God coddle it or kick it out? Jesus told us:
“And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.” Luke 10:18
Oh and will we lose the ability to choose in Heaven? One man recently stated: “Even if you are in Heaven you do not have eternal security.” Interesting and apparently true…. because as I am sure you were alluding to, lucifer and a third of the angels still had choice in Heaven, they chose sin and were expelled (Isaiah 14:12-15; Ezekiel 28:13-19; Luke 10:18).
Those who deal with the eternal securists know that it’s observable that these self-serving idolaters, counterfeits, want the assurance of salvation via lies instead of obedience. They campaign, promote, and defend their “eternal security” idol doctrine. If they spent the same time and energy seeking and obeying the LORD they claim to serve, there would be great fruit born.
No one is going to walk in peace and assurance just because they speak of it, claim it, or because they desire to have peace and assurance. No, it’s only when we obey the Word of God that His peace and assurance flood our being. There’s no short cut to obedience (1 John 3:16-18).
The assurance of salvation, of eternal glory with Christ, abides only in those who obey God. The OSAS wolves speak nothing of obeying the LORD. No, instead they spend all their time indoctrinating people with the heresy that they are eternally secure no matter what they do after being saved. Those who give more than cliche’s and lip service to God, enjoy the assurance of His salvation.
“My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in deed and in truth. 19 And hereby (by obedience) we know that we are of the truth, and shall ASSURE our hearts before him. 20 For if our heart condemn us, God is greater than our heart, and knoweth all things. 21 Beloved, if our heart condemn us not, then have we confidence toward God.” 1 John 3:18-21
Assurance of salvation in our hearts comes from abiding in and with Christ, from obeying Him – not sitting around convincing ourselves and others that we are “eternally secure” (John 14-15). Such is the occupation of moral coward counterfeits who are lost hell-bound souls.
Convincing people who aren’t abiding in Christ that they are eternally secure is criminal, sinful, and perpetrated by the grace-perverting “ungodly men” Jude warned us about (Jude 3-4). Instead of teaching them that God requires that they love and obey Him, they sidestep this unpopular truth and evilly, insidiously tickle the ears of their prey (2 Timothy 4:2-4).
Of 1 John 3:19, Adam Clarke writes:
“Hereby we know that we are of the truth – That we have the true religion of the Lord Jesus, and shall assure our hearts – be persuaded in our consciences, that we have the truth as it is in Jesus; as no man can impose upon himself by imagining he loves when he does not: he may make empty professions to others, but if he loves either God or man, he knows it because he feels it; and love unfelt is not love, it is word or tongue. This the apostle lays down as a test of a man’s Christianity, and it is the strongest and most infallible test that can be given. He that loves feels that he does love; and he who feels that he loves God and man has true religion; and he who is careful to show the fruits of this love, in obedience to God and humane acts to man, gives others the fullest proof that he has the loving mind that was in Jesus.”
The crux concerning the eternal security counterfeits is that they simply refuse to die – to deny self, take up the cross daily, and follow the Savior they claim is their Savior.
Believing that God requires man to participate in an abiding relationship with Him is not works salvation, it’s Bible 101. The only people who call an abiding walk with Christ “works salvation” are those who are vainly thinking they’re going to use Jesus to get them to Heaven, out of hell, without engaging in a relationship with the Great Bridegroom. These are antichrists. They teach contrary to Christ. Read John 15:1-6. Doesn’t their reasoning, their doctrine sound like the foolish virgins who were shut out of Christ’s kingdom? Yep. Read Matthew 25:1-13.
Instead of using that energy to lay down their lives, to be truly crucified with Christ, the OSAS defenders have endless energy to argue to justify sinning. Why? They simply do not love the LORD. They love self and they love their life in this world and will perish with it (1 Corinthians 2:9b; 1 John 2:15-17).
Eternal securists preach “grace, grace, grace” and yet they have more faith in sin, in sinning, than they do in God’s grace to keep them…. free from sin. They are “(…the enemies of the cross of Christ: 19 Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things)” (Philippians 3:18-19).
“For he that is dead is freed from sin.” Romans 6:7
Let me get this straight …… Jesus’ grace was enough to save you but is not strong enough to keep you from the sin He died and rose again to deliver you from?
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“Romans 14:1-3. This post (exposing the heresy of OSAS) continues division among God’s people. God has chosen not to reveal all of Himself to any person. We are all in a broken state of incomplete revelation.”
REPLY:
Not true. You are quoting Romans 14 which is speaking of NON-essentials, not essential doctrine of the original Gospel given to us by Christ and His holy apostles. Those who do not continue in sound doctrine, in the teaching of Christ and His apostles, “hath NOT God” and are to be exposed (2 John 7-11).
The only one causing division is you – a false teacher who is perpetrating the same lie of Satan himself from the Garden of Eden, the original doctrine of devils (1 Timothy 4:1).
Believers are specifically mandated to “earnestly contend” against “ungodly men” who are “turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness” such as Satan’s first lie, his first teaching – OSAS/eternal security.
Jude 1:3-5
“Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints. 4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ. 5 I will therefore put you in remembrance, though ye once knew this, how that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed them that believed not.”
Divisions are needed – the divining between the truth-loving remnant of Christ and the counterfeits who espouse falsehoods (Romans 16:17-18). See also Matthew 10:34.
God has clearly, plainly revealed to us the OSAS/eternal security is a lie from His arch enemy and actually led to the fall of mankind in the Garden (Proverbs 22:17-21; Genesis 2:17; 3:4). The warnings against this heresy exist throughout His Word. You may wish to cease using the cop-out position.
Brother Raphael King writes:
“If once saved always saved is correct, then why does Satan tempt saved Christians? What is the aim of the tempter if not to entice the saved ones to sin?
If once saved always saved is correct, why did Jesus tell the man he healed of his infirmity to go and SIN NO MORE? John 5:14
Afterward Jesus findeth him in the temple, and said unto him, Behold, thou art made whole: sin no more, lest a worse thing come unto thee.
I need your views on these if you think once saved always saved is correct, or you have believed a lie all long!”
According to man’s school of thought, eternal security (also known as “once saved, always saved”) is the belief that from the moment anyone becomes a Christian they will be saved from hell and will not lose their salvation.
But according to the Bible, someone that was once saved can still fall into sin, die in their sins and go to hell!
2 Peter 2:20-22: “For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them. But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.”
Let’s analyze some examples:
Judas was once saved! One cannot fall away from a place he has never been. So, accepting this falling away as truth, the conclusion is that one can be saved and then “fall away” or lose his salvation. How can a fallen man fall again if he was never saved at first?
Acts 1:25: “That he may take part of this ministry and apostleship, from which Judas by transgression fell, that he might go to his own place.”
Judas Iscariot was standing in the Lord, and a follower of Christ before he fell into transgression.
Demas was once saved…
Colossians 4:14: “Luke, the beloved physician, and Demas, greet you.”
Philemon 1:24: “Marcus, Aristarchus, Demas, Lucas, my fellowlabourers…” These are saved laborers that Paul referred to.
But Demas later backslid to love the world….
2 Timothy 4:10: “For Demas hath forsaken me, having loved this present world, and is departed unto Thessalonica; Crescens to Galatia, Titus unto Dalmatia.”
1 Corinthians 5 was written to believers who had fallen into fornication. “It is reported commonly that there is fornication among you, and such fornication as is not so much as named among the Gentiles, that one should have his father’s wife.” Paul would not be preaching like this to those that are not yet saved.
The seven churches in Revelation were saved believers before they fell. The Bible recorded their good works. The remedy for them was repentance. Mind you these happened after Pentecost. The church at Ephesus backslid and left its first love. God out of His infinite mercy, sent a message of warning to them. Can you then say that these Churches are not truly saved at first? Then read Revelation 2:1-5 and see their stand before they fell.
Revelation 2:5: “Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent.”
David once fell into sin, Saul once fell into sin, Solomon once fell into sin, Ananias and Sapphira once fell into sin, Lucifer once fell into sin! The lists are endless. These people were saved but somewhere along the line they fell into sin. Some had the grace to repent and utilized it while others wasted it, some didn’t have the grace to repent.
Those that said these people were not truly saved at first should bring evidence from the Bible and not self-assumption. You don’t assume the Bible, you believe it!
If once saved forever saved is true, why did the apostles write to believers that they should not commit sin and warned them to flee from fornication? The Bible talks about repentance in various chapters.
Eternal salvation is for those who always obey God. Once you disobey God, you will lose it just like King Saul in the Bible. The only way to reclaim it is through repentance.
Hebrews 5:9: “And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;”
Saved by Grace to Obey God
The OSAS counterfeits want to say that any obedience or good works for Jesus mean you are seeking to earn your own salvation. But the Bible tells us that we are saved by grace through faith which will always produce the fruit of good works. In fact we are created in Christ to do them!
“For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. 10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.” Ephesians 2:8-10
He saved us by His grace to be “his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.” Any questions?
Jesus requires that we overcome in order to reign with Him.
“And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:” Revelation 2:26
Those who keep His works to the end are those who trust and worship Christ and not self – He is their “first love.” (Revelation 2:4-5) Their works do not save them and yet they clearly prove they are His.
“Unto the end” is a requirement for eternal glory, otherwise you will be vanquished into the bowels of eternal damnation irrevocably. Faith is required by God to receive Christ’s salvation, and true saving faith always produces good works (Ephesians 2:8-10).
Isn’t our obedience to Jesus our LORD an expression of our love for Him?
“If ye love me, keep my commandments.” John 14:15
What did Jesus say concerning our lights shining and “good works”?
“Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.” Matthew 5:16
“Be careful to maintain good works”
“This is a faithful saying, and these things I will that thou affirm constantly, that they which have believed in God might be careful to maintain good works. These things are good and profitable unto men.” Titus 3:8
O the endless stream of cowards who seek to evade personal accountability ….. In dealing with yet another heretic, I recently wrote concerning a man who believes he has no personal responsibility to worship, walk with, obey, and engage in an intimate abiding relationship with the Savior He claims saved him (John 15:1-6). He assumes no accountability because he seeks to use Jesus to get him to Heaven but has no interest in the cross Jesus says one must take up daily to truly follow Him-otherwise such a counterfeit is not following Him (Luke 9:23-24). Repent now sinner.
Moral cowards migrate to the “eternal security” heresy because they simply do not want to genuinely repent, to change. They want the crown but not the cross. They vainly believe they are going to use the Savior to get them out of hell yet want nothing to do with a worship-filled, engaged, abiding, fruit-bearing, obedient relationship with the Son of God while on earth. These are the rebels who will hear the LORD declare to them “Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:” (Matthew 25:4. Read John 15.)
In the biblical model of salvation, you’re not free to sin, you’ve been saved from sin, blessed to live free from sin.
“For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.” Romans 6:14
You are now the servant of God, not sin.
“But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life.” Romans 6:22
Those who go back to sin after being saved, are in danger of hell fire – unless they repent and return to the LORD:
“For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.” Romans 6:23
The wages of sin is STILL death (Ezekiel 18:4; Romans 6:23). God’s grace never changed His definition of sin. God will judge, will damn the souls of every person who dies in sin – whether they were saved in the past or not (Ezekiel 33:12-13; Revelation 22:11, etc.).
Lawless Workers of Iniquity
This warning below from Christ clearly tells us that “MANY” today who call Jesus “Lord”, who claim they are saved, are not.
“Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity (lawlessness).” Matthew 7:21-23
Joe Mann writes:
“When a person does what CHRIST JESUS HIMSELF tells them to not do or do…. it’s not their own work’s…..is it???
Besides a person is not in the PROCESS of being SAVED BY & until BELIEF in WHO & WHAT?
Luke 6:46-49
46 And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say? 47 Whosoever cometh to me, and heareth my sayings, and doeth them, I will shew you to whom he is like: 48 He is like a man which built an house, and digged deep, and laid the foundation on a rock: and when the flood arose, the stream beat vehemently upon that house, and could not shake it: for it was founded upon a rock. 49 But he that heareth, and doeth not, is like a man that without a foundation built an house upon the earth; against which the stream did beat vehemently, and immediately it fell; and the ruin of that house was great.”
Simply put, those who teach OSAS/eternal security/Calvinism, are sin-justifying, grace-perverting heretics.
The 5 points of Calvinism are utterly false, each and every one of them. Personally, I wear the scorn of the wicked eternal security and calvinist hereticks, as a badge of honor. According to the Holy Spirit’s warning through Jude, these have perverted the faith of the original Gospel of Christ and call it “the doctrines of grace” while they specifically pervert the grace of God. These are “ungodly men” who are “turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness” (license for sin) (Jude 4). We are to “earnestly contend” against them (Jude 3).
You could openly curse the Son of God and they’d say little or nothing. Yet, soon as you expose the lying falsehoods they hide behind and use to justify their sins, those devils behind those “doctrines of devils” manifest (1 Timothy 4:1-2).
Calvinist/osas heretics insist that one is devaluing the perfect payment of Christ on the cross for our sins…. are they?
Jesus’ work was perfect and this same JESUS gave conditions for man to appropriate His salvation. To say otherwise would be to say that everyone is going to Heaven, not matter what which is the heresy we call universalism. Yet some wish to ignore those conditions, those things God requires of anyone who will know and walk with Him. Many have bought lies, half-truths and aren’t being honest with the whole counsel of God’s Word. Jesus told His own 12 they had to “endure to the end” to be “saved” (Matthew 10:22; 24:13).
“Saved by grace through faith. Lets break this down for those who don’t understand… Its by Gods grace we’re offered the gift of salvation; yet that gift of salvation is activated through faith!! Without faith no man can please God. And if people think for one second they’re forced to abide or remain in the faith, they better get back in the word. Jesus even said that he is the true vine, and if we don’t remain in him, we are cut off… OSAS teaching is a lie! We must work out our salvation in fear and trembling before the Lord daily!! Endure unto the end!” Cristina
Specifically speaking to HIS own, Jesus says they must “abide” in Him or they will be cast into the fire (John 15:6).
“If a man abide not in me (does not remain with me), he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.” John 15:6
Response to a proponent of OSAS:
Please explain to all of us why EVERY person in the world isn’t automatically saved…. after all, Jesus paid the full price for their sin…. And, show us all in God’s Word how men don’t have free will. “Doctrines of grace” to you are actually the corruption of God’s saving grace and Jude warned us about vile wolves, “ungodly men” like you who turn the saving grace of God in Christ into a license for sin.
“For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness (license to sin), and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.” Jude 4
Here’s a Scripture text on true saving grace that you are allergic to and that your phony “grace teachers” never mentioned….
“For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, 12 Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;” Titus 2:11-12
Every false teacher is going to hell (2 Peter 2:1-3).
Calvinists speak of “doctrines of grace” while intentionally ignoring and evading Bible passages on grace such as Titus 2:11-12. Calvinists are con men. They are fulfilling the Holy Spirit’s prophecy through Jude as they over emphasize grace while deliberately evading certain grace Scriptures and mountains of truth (Jude 4). What about holiness – God’s holiness, and the truth that He said “Be ye holy for I am holy”? See 1 Peter 1:15-16. You purposely ignore it because you simply don’t want to die, to lay down your life in this fleeting world, to be crucified with Christ. Counterfeit. | Grace vs Holiness
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WHAT’S On Jesus’ Prayer List? [podcast]
What Did Jesus Pray for His People?
John 17 – knowing Him. Being one with Him and the Father and one another.
Jesus prayed the highest priorities of the Father for His people as is recorded in John 17.
Jesus’ High Priestly Prayer – John 17
“Jesus’ prayer in John 17, often called the “High Priestly Prayer,” is a profound discourse to God before His crucifixion, focusing on His own glorification, the protection and unity of His disciples, and the future unity of all believers, emphasizing eternal life through knowing God and Christ, and asking for believers to be set apart in truth and one, just as He and the Father are one.
Having offered His precious, sinless blood to the Father for the redemption of the fallen race, Jesus Christ is now seated at the right hand of the Father making intercession for all of His saints.”
“But this man, because he continueth ever, hath an unchangeable priesthood. 25 Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them. 26 For such an high priest became us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens;” Hebrews 7:24-26
Due to His perfect sacrifice and redemption of fallen mankind, we who are His, are invited to “come boldly…”
“Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our profession. 15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin. 16 Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.” Hebrews 4:14-16
As we “come boldly unto the throne of grace” the LORD is going to fill us with His grace and love.
Those most powerfully used by God to help others, are those who are set apart to Him, crying out to the LORD to be filled with His gracious Holy Spirit and to be made more and more one with Him.
Debbie Lord writes:
“GOD is our sustaining force via prayer:
The Holy Spirit praying for us from within,
Jesus, our risen Savior and High Priest praying for us at the right hand of God, Brothers and Sisters in Christ praying for us on this earth, and us praying for believers everywhere,
even those we’ve never met. Ephesians 6:18
Each member of Christ’s body should be assured of the constant prayer of other believers as well as lifting up in prayer other believers themselves.”
Memory Truth:
“For the wrath of man worketh not the righteousness of God.” James 1:20
We grow in Christ’s grace to realize that our own misguided, unwarranted, self-righteous attitudes and actions of wrath on sinners, is not of God.
Pray to “grow in grace” (2 Peter 3:18). When we are growing in His grace in that abiding oneness, His ministry of grace will flow through us. It has been wisely stated that “We can never lead someone else to a place we aren’t ourselves walking in.”
“For it is a good thing that the heart be established with grace…” Hebrews 13:9
WHEN we see something in God’s Word, such as the verse above, let us pray it – pray He will bring it fully into our lives.
WHO has God Used to Truly Minister to Us?
Did God use vessels of self-righteous wrath?
Or, has the LORD used crucified vessels who were full of His love?
Can we not reflect back on how God used others to minister to us? Who did He use? It wasn’t the harsh self-righteous ones He used but rather the vessels of His love – who when they spoke His truth, did it out of His concern and desire for us to truly come to Him… right?
There is so much evil in this fallen world. We are bombarded with words, attitudes, and images daily with the iniquity of fallen mankind. That will not change till Jesus returns. For now, we must abide in Christ, to seek Him to make us one with Him and the Father who are one in agreement, unison, etc. It’s only in being made one with the Father and Jesus that God’s love will fill and flow from us. May God settle us at His feet, truly.
YOUR PRAYER: Holy Father in Heaven, I come to You in the name of my LORD Jesus Christ. Please teach me Your ways and make me, and Your body, one with You. In Jesus’ holy Name, amen.
Pouring prayerfully over the prayer of our LORD Jesus recorded in John 17 would greatly benefit us saints.
John 17: Jesus’ Prayer, the Real “LORD’s Prayer”
The High Priestly Prayer of Our Savior: Beholding the Highest Divine Priorities in the Prayer of Jesus
“1 These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee:
2 As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him.
3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
4 I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do.
5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.
6 I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and thou gavest them me; and they have kept thy word.
7 Now they have known that all things whatsoever thou hast given me are of thee.
8 For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me.
9 I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine.
10 And all mine are thine, and thine are mine; and I am glorified in them.
11 And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.
12 While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled.
13 And now come I to thee; and these things I speak in the world, that they might have my joy fulfilled in themselves.
14 I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.
15 I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.
16 They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.
17 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.
18 As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world.
19 And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth.
20 Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word;
21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:
23 I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.
24 Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world.
25 O righteous Father, the world hath not known thee: but I have known thee, and these have known that thou hast sent me.
26 And I have declared unto them thy name, and will declare it: that the love wherewith thou hast loved me may be in them, and I in them.”
The Gospel key to walking in God’s love is the cross. The Bible teaches us that “God is love” and it’s only the crucified vessel that will be full of God’s love and used effectively by the LORD.
“And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him. 17 Herein is our love made perfect, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment: because as he is, so are we in this world. 18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.” 1 John 4:16-18
Ministry from Heaven can only come out of a crucified vessel.
“Always bearing about in the body the dying of the Lord Jesus, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our body. 11 For we which live are alway delivered unto death for Jesus’ sake, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our mortal flesh. 12 So then death worketh in us, but life in you.” 2 Corinthians 4:10-12
Love is at the top of the divine list of priorities and can only come out of the oneness our Father desires us to have with Him (1 Corinthians 13). Are we asking Him to be made one with Him? (See John 17.)
“Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God. 8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.” 1 John 4:7-8
Sister Debbie Lord offers us the opportunity to pray this Scriptural prayer: “Lord, I pray for your saints world over, that You would draw us closer and closer (increasingly) to Yourself as time grows short. Please help us give up and let go so that You can live in us fully and minister to us, in us and THROUGH us. I ask this in Jesus’ Name. Amen.”
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Rejecting the Swine: Swine Among Us! [podcast]
Jesus’ Protocol, and Parameters are for Our Protection
What does the Bible say concerning allowing a departed person to come back into your life or into a group of believers?
God only forgives those who repent and when they repent, they will acknowledge their sin and make restitution to those they’ve harmed. They will “Bring forth therefore fruits meet for (consistent with) repentance” (Matthew 3:7-10). True repentance is proven by good fruit demonstrated to prove it, or not. If there’s no honest, open admission and restitution, there’s no true sorrow or repentance.
“Take heed to yourselves: If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him; and IF he repent, forgive him. 4 And if he trespass against thee seven times in a day, and seven times in a day turn again to thee, saying, I repent; thou shalt forgive him.” Luke 17:3-4
If a brother sins against you, you are commanded to rebuke him. And forgive him and yet, only if he chooses to repent.
Forgive him yes, yet only “if he repent(s).”
v4 notice that the sinning person is required to repent each and every time he sins.
This appears to be a protective protocol or parameter to follow in order to ascertain or prove someone has or has not truly repented. Personally, I’ve see many times where people who’ve done wrong to a member of Christ’s body try to just come lolly gagging back into that person’s life or fellowship only to have the opportunity to wreak havoc once again because they weren’t made to prove they truly repented. Let us couple this with what Jesus teaches concerning dogs and swine. As we are going to see in a moment, Jesus commands His people not to closely associate with anyone who would be in close range of you and be able to rend or rip, tear, stab you (Matthew 7:6). So, if someone who has committed offense returns without coming with true repentance, they are to be considered a swine, a dog to whom the believer is not to give place lest this person “turn AGAIN and rend you” (Matthew 7:6).
GOD IS BEGGING NO ONE TO COME TO HIM AND HE ALSO INSTRUCTED YOU NOT TO BEG ANYONE ALSO. GOD NEEDS NO ONE. ALL MEN NEED GOD. THE LORD HONORS EVERY MAN’S RIGHT TO GO TO HELL (Deuteronomy 30:19; Joshua 24:15; 1 Kings 18:21; 2 Peter 3:9; Revelation 21:8, etc.).
The LORD told you to send em packing if they don’t want to change to conform to His truth….. Did you know that? Read and memorize Matthew 7:6 and Titus 3:10 now.
“Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.” Matthew 7:6
Force Feed? NO! THE UNREPENTANT are willingly blind and these are the very “dogs” and “swine” Jesus commanded us to abandon! Matthew 7:6 is a command saints!
PERHAPS we should today consider that God is attempting to protect His children. Following His wisdom, His Word, will do just that (Proverbs 30:5). Those who allow a swine, a heretic, to remain in close range, will again be stabbed in the back by that swine (Matthew 7:6; Titus 3:10). Swine—unrepentant evil doers—are to be rejected (Titus 3:10). In this life, there are people you will have to forgive and also, to get out of your life, to keep them at a distance. Beware of the Swine
Have you ever had anyone stalk your posts on social media? Seems like this is nearly always what happens when you allow unrepentant heretics stay around. They become a liability.
NO soul shall be argued into Christ’s glorious kingdom. This is one reason Jesus tells us not to give the precious jewels of His Word to “swine.” In part, “swine” are those who’ve heard and still refuse to believe. Some were saved and yet are no longer saved due to having “an EVIL heart of unbelief” (Hebrews 3:12-14). Jesus warns that “swine” will simply turn the truth against you and stab, rip you! Pour over Matthew 7:6.
Jesus told you to NEVER waste your time on swine-who will only use everything they learn about you against you (Matthew 7:6). Are you obeying Jesus?
They continue saying things that contradict Scripture. The LORD mandates that His people “reject” heretics…. after they’ve been confronted the first and second time and still remain in the lie, refusing to be corrected by God’s Word (2 Timothy 3:16). This is the whole issue: They are biblically illiterate and refuse to only believe and operate according to the Word and are not repenting:
“A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject; 11 Knowing that he that is such is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned of himself.” Titus 3:10-11
Note what Paul instructs Titus to do concerning heretics—those who reject the truth when shown it. Notice in v. 11 how the Holy Spirit gives us insight into the hearts and minds of heretics—“such is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned of himself.”
Of Titus 3:10-11, Stacy Strother writes:
“Their own conduct condemns them, as verse 11 will explain. Titus is told in no uncertain terms not to have any association with someone who tries to cause divisions within the church.”
When Paul faced false teachers he said this:
“And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage: 5 To whom WE GAVE PLACE BY SUBJECTION, NO NOT FOR AN HOUR; that the truth of the gospel might continue with you.” Galatians 2:4-5
False teachers are to be allowed “the first and second admonition” and then rejected if they do not repent and conform to the doctrine of God’s Word.
Rejecting the Swine: Swine Among Us!
“Neither give place to the devil” nor his servants (Ephesians 4:27; Matthew 7:6; 10:14; Titus 3:10).
Having dealt with thousands of naysayers, caught in the grip of sin and Satan, I do not continue throwing pearls to swine as is Christ’s command (Matthew 7:6). If they refuse to humble themselves, seek the LORD and His truth, and believe, they are to be rejected, namely if they are openly casting doubt upon and spurning God’s Word (John 8:47; Titus 3:10). Swine
WHEN we deal with someone in error, the key to remember is whether or not the person in error is teachable or prideful. “God resisteth (sets Himself against) the proud, but giveth grace unto the humble” (James 4:6). Watch what David prayed in Psalms 141:5:
“Let the righteous smite me; it shall be a kindness: and let him reprove me; it shall be an excellent oil, which shall not break my head: for yet my prayer also shall be in their calamities.” Psalms 141:5
RED FLAG DISCERNMENT: You know you are dealing with a devil when he/she dwells among believers and yet demonstrates no love, no edification, and no mercy toward you and yet then when they see an opportunity, they lower the boom to condemn you. Swine (Matthew 7:6).
Their condemnation with no edification of the body of Christ is completely unlike how Jesus addresses the churches of Asia in Revelation 2 and 3. For example, Jesus edified and commended the believers at Ephesus and only then did He correct them. Go take a look for yourself in Revelation 2:1-7.
QUESTION:
“You deal with a lot of people. Do you ever get tired with people’s problems lol?”
REPLY:
Yes and there is simply no time to waste on people who have a Bible and all the opportunity in the world to seek God and don’t and then want to blame God and you …. never themselves.
“The foolishness of man perverteth his way: and his heart fretteth against (blames) the LORD.” Proverbs 19:3
Did you catch that? Men pervert their own way and instead of admitting their own sin, seeking the LORD and repenting, some of them want to tear away at, attack His children as if to get to Him, the LORD whom they are blaming.
The wicked sin against God and then turn around and blame the Almighty who is holy, for their own sin.
There are those like these we are to help and those who do not truly want help and will steal God’s resources (time, energy, etc) while you could be giving those resources to a cause more fruitful … including people who truly want help and are willing to deal honestly, receiving the LORD’s Word. May God grant us His wisdom in each situation as He promised He would if we simply ask Him.
Here are some passages to guide us in divine wisdom:
“If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.” James 1:5
“And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient, 25 In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth; 26 And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.” 2 Timothy 2:24-26
“Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.” Matthew 7:6
Remember how Jesus departed from cities where the people didn’t receive Him? Here’s an example and a nugget of truth to live by.
“And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet.” Matthew 10:14
Jesus instructed us to “shake off the dust” from our feet when His Word is not received, right?
We must learn to cease to waste the LORD’s time that He gave us, on people who do not truly want Him.
Saints, let us be reminded that God needs no one—no man—but all men need the LORD. Having this revelation, you will hear me tell folks “God is God and He doesn’t need you. You need Him.”
If someone is not going to repent of a heresy after being shown Scripture that exposes it for the lie it is, “reject (block)” them. That’s what Jesus commanded (Matthew 7:6; Titus 3:10-11).
“Reject” the “Heretick”
“Keep your pearls for whom the Lord directs. Being a ‘sweet’ Christian who ends up shredded by the pigs taught me a great lesson. More discernment Lord, please and thank You. He did and He will. It’s a new day and we need it now.” Julie Thompson
When you allow a deceiver to hang around, you are facilitating their misleading of others.
WHO, other than Satan and his human agents, came to put people in bondage “to steal, and to kill, and to destroy”? See John 10:10. Wisdom: If you think someone can lie to people and go so far as to lead them into bondage God never intended…. and that person still be a good brother in Christ, you have something coming to you. It will always end up bad. You are keeping a devil around…. allowing them to lurk and when the chance arises, out of the blue, they will turn and rend / rip you. “They lie in wait (lurk) to deceive.”
“That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive.” Ephesians 4:14
“These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots;” Jude 1:12
Think about these words in light of letting devils hang around.
“And shall receive the reward of unrighteousness, as they that count it pleasure to riot in the day time. Spots they are and blemishes, sporting themselves with their own deceivings while they feast with you; 14 Having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin; beguiling unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children:” 2 Peter 2:13-14
When you are communicating divine truth in love and the person you are dialoguing with is not buying it (Proverbs 23:23), it’s time to begin considering to cut them off – to “reject” them. Listen to the divine wisdom given to us in this matter and notice closely also how he inserts the element of “foolish questions.”
“But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain. 10 A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject; 11 Knowing that he that is such is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned of himself.” Titus 3:9-11
Greek for Heretick
G141
αἱρετικός
aihretikos
hahee-ret-ee-kos’
From the same as G140; a schismatic (choice). (“heretic” is the Greek word itself.): – heretic [the Greek word itself].
Total KJV occurrences: 1
By definition, the Bible word “heretick” involves a choice—a decision made by the individual to choose error, falsehood over truth.
In Titus 3:11 here the word “subverted” refers to those who dare to undermine the power and authority of God who has spoken to us in His Word (Psalms 33:11; 119; Isaiah 40:8; Mark 13:31; 2 Timothy 3:16-17; 2 Peter 1:19-21, etc.). Those who pervert or corrupt the Scriptures out of a deceived, depraved heart by an undermining of morals, allegiance, or faith. See 2 Corinthians 2:17.
Those who make the choice to disregard, to refuse to be honest with God’s Word and not walk in sound doctrine, are not continuing in the original Gospel, “the doctrine of Christ”, and will be damned (2 John 9; Galatians 1:6-9; 2 Peter 2:1-3).
“For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist. 8 Look to yourselves, that we lose not those things which we have wrought, but that we receive a full reward. 9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth (remains) in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. 10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: 11 For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.” 2 John 7-11
Believers are to scope out, identify, and “mark” (scope out and identify) those who cause divisions by their adherence to falsehoods.
“Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them. 18 For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly (carnal appetites and self-serving agenda); and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.” Romans 16:17-18
No sinner ever has or ever will be begged into Christ’s kingdom. That is a false posture. Holy Scripture will define and strengthen our perspective toward the lost.
In most cases, the swine we deal with are professing Christians who are in error and unrepentant. Concerning this reality, Charles Pray writes:
“It is so sad to be hated by the world and all those who do not know JESUS as Lord and Savior in their life as we do. But it is even much more sad to be hated by all those who profess to be Christians also, right? Jesus promised: Matthew 5:43 Matthew 5:44 Matthew 6:24 Matthew 10:22 Matthew 24:9 Matthew 24:10 Mark 13:13 Amen!”
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