
DID THE CATHOLIC CHURCH REALLY GIVE US THE BIBLE?
The New Testament was written by apostles who were JEWISH men. None of them were catholics, because there was no Roman Catholic Church at the time. This was over two centuries before Constantine’s co-called “conversion”. The canon of the New Testament was not formed by the decision of any Church council.
Listed as canonical “only those books that were generally regarded by the consensus of use as properly a canon”. In other words, it didn’t create the canon. Rather, it confirmed the identity of the canon which already existed. The Word of God IS the authority of God. So the Catholic Church did not give us the Bible. However, Catholic monks helped preserve the Bible by copying it.
The Catholic Church changed the Bible. In 1548, at the Council of Trent, it added the Apocrypha to the Bible. The apocryphal books contain passages which are used to justify some Catholic doctrines, such as praying for the dead. The Apocrypha books are discussed in the Appendix.
IS THE BIBLE CATHOLIC? the books of the Bible were completed 300-400 yrs before the catholic church was formed. JEWISH men wrote the Bible as the Holy Spirit inspired them – 2 Timothy 3:16; 2 Peter 1:20-21.
Did we get the Bible from the catholic church?
IF THE BIBLE IS A CATHOLIC BOOK, THEN:
- Why does it condemn clerical dress? (Matt. 23:5-6; Luke 20:46).
- Why does the Bible teach against the adoration of Mary if the Bible is catholic? (Luke 11:27-28).
- Why does it show that all Christians are priests? (1 Pet. 2:5,9).
- Why does God’s Word condemn the observance of special days if it’s catholic? (Gal. 4:9-11).
- Why does the Bible teach that all Christians are saints if it’s catholic? (1 Cor. 1:2).
- If the Bible were truly catholic, WHY does it condemn the making and adoration of objects of worship, of graven images? (Ex. 20:4-5).
- Why does the Bible teach that baptism is immersion instead of sprinkling or pouring if the Bible is catholic? (Col. 2:12).
- If the Bible is truly catholic, WHY does it forbid us to address religious leaders as “father”? (Matt. 23:9)
- If the Bible is truly catholic, why does it teach that Christ is the only foundation and not the apostle Peter? (1 Cor. 3:11).
- Why does it address only God Himself as the “Holy Father”? (John 17:11)
- If the Bible is catholic, why does it teach that there is one mediator instead of many? (1 Tim. 2:5).
- If the Bible is catholic, why is the Bible completely silent about infant baptism, indulgence$, purgatory, confession to priests, the rosary, the mass, and many other things taught by the Catholic Church?
- If the Bible is catholic, why then did the Pope put the Bible on the Index of forbidden books in the 12th century?
The roman catholic church is the enemy of Christ and has long warred against Him and will be destroyed by Him “in one hour.” Read Revelation 17 and 18.
Catholics are told by their leaders that the Bible came through the catholic church. Is this historically true?
It’s laughable that the roman catholic church claims to have given us the Bible. God’s Word tells us differently.
“What advantage then hath the Jew? (THE JEWS) or what profit is there of circumcision? 2 Much every way: chiefly, because that unto them (the JEWS) were committed the oracles of God (written Word of God).” Romans 3:1-2
Case closed.
The catastrophe we know as the catholic church didn’t even begin to formulate till Jesus and His holy apostles were gone for over 300 years.
The New Testament was written largely by Christ’s apostles who were JEWISH men and other God-ordained MEN who were close to Jesus and His holy apostles. None of them were catholics, because there was no Roman Catholic Church at that time. This was over two centuries before Constantine’s co-called “conversion” and the beginnings of what is known as the catholic church – which has nothing to do with Christ and His kingdom.
The canon of the New Testament was not formed by the decision of any Church council. Rather, the Council of Carthage (397 A.D.) listed as canonical “only those books that were generally regarded by the consensus of use as properly a canon”. In other words, it didn’t create the canon. Rather, it confirmed the identity of the canon which already existed.
The written Word of God IS the authority of God which GOD gave through the Jews.
The Catholic Church did not give us the Bible.
The Catholic Church changed the Bible. In 1548, at the Council of Trent, it added the Apocrypha to the Bible. The apocryphal books contain passages which are used to justify some Catholic doctrines, such as praying for the dead. The Apocrypha are discussed in the Appendix.
The catholic church removed the Second of the Ten Commandments due to God’s Word cutting into their profit$ – the sale of idols. The Hebrew Bible and the King James Bible state the following as the 2nd Commandmant:
“Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: 5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;” Exodus 20:4-5
In order to continue to sell their myriad of idols, the roman religion had to remove the Second Commandment of God. They converted one of the other commandments into 2 commandments to still maintain 10 Commandments. They’ve removed from God’s Word and thereby removed their names from the Book of Life (Revelation 22:18-19).
With any cult, the handlers train, brainwash the prey on what to say.
By David Daniels
“The Bible came through the Catholic Church.”
Today this statement is universally accepted both in the church world and in secular history. Author Gail Riplinger, in her new book “In Awe of Thy Word”, spends several hundred pages proving that this is wrong.
Even a casual look at the evidence discloses that there were two streams of scripture that flowed from apostolic times. Most history books follow just one stream that flows from Jerusalem down through Alexandria, Egypt and up into Rome.
Along the way the stream became polluted with heretical teachings. The corrupt Vaticanus and Sinaiticus manuscripts are products of that stream. The Bible produced from these manuscripts is the Bible that the Vatican claims to have given the world. These provide the basis for all the modern Bible versions.
But when this polluted stream of scripture arrived in Rome, it became mired in the political bog of what we now call Roman Catholicism. For over a thousand years, superstition, ignorance and organized corruption locked this Bible away from the common man.
But Riplinger’s research uncovers another stream that flows up from Jerusalem through Antioch in Syria where the disciples were first called Christians. (See Acts 11:26.) Citing hundreds of passages from documents largely ignored by historians, she proves that a pure version of the Scriptures was agreed upon as early as 100 AD and copies began to follow the trade routes north and west as missionaries took up the great commission.
Rome did everything within her power to stamp out the Christians who had these pure Scriptures. During the dark ages the harlot church burned every copy she could get her hands on. But God had promised to preserve His Words.
When the printing press became available, men like Wycliffe and Zwinglie took the manuscripts from that stream and translated them into the common languages. The ignorance of God’s Word was broken. The result was the Reformation that shattered the bondage of the popes.
Riplinger pieces together scraps of history proving the existence of a Gothic Bible as early as 350 AD and the text almost exactly matches the textus receptus that formed the basis for the KJB. Studies reveal that it was a word-for-word, literal equivalence translation from the Antioch stream of Greek scriptures.
Riplinger traces this northern stream of scripture from the Goths, through the Visigoths, Anglo-Saxons, Old English, into the time of Wycliffe and on to King James.
At the same time, Riplinger provides dozens of charts of specific scriptures where the original Gothic version matches the KJB while the same verses are either missing or differ in meaning in the modern versions based on the other, Alexandrian/ Roman Catholic, stream of manuscripts.
Riplinger’s evidence is powerful, early testimony to the purity of the KJB. The sterling agreement of the northern stream of manuscripts stand in stark contrast to the muddled confusion found in the southern, Alexandrian/ Vatican manuscripts.
It is technically true that the Catholic Church gave us a Bible. But it is a Bible based on flawed manuscripts full of contradictions and inconsistencies. The confusion in the church today caused by the gaggle of versions was birthed by an attempt to “fix” the “archaic” language of the KJB. But that fix was dipped from the southern stream of corrupt manuscripts. The Bible that was “given” by the Roman Catholic Church is a counterfeit Bible, designed to sideline and eventually eliminate God’s preserved Words in the King James Bible.
Riplinger’s new book is a weighty volume but provides more overwhelming evidence how God went about preserving His Words in the KJB. It presents damning testimony against the pope’s claim that God’s preserved Words came through the Vatican institution identified in Revelation as the prostitute church.
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Be Not Moved Away from the Hope of the Gospel [podcast]

“Confirming the souls of the disciples, and exhorting them to continue in the faith, and that we must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of God.” Acts 14:22
“IF ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which ye have heard, and which was preached to every creature which is under heaven; whereof I Paul am made a minister;” Colossians 1:23
OSAS is a lie from hell. OSAS/eternal security was Satan’s first lie and so it’s blasphemy to teach this doctrine of devils (Gen 2:17; 3:4; 1 Timothy 4:1; Hebrews 3:6, 12-14; 10:26-39; 2 Peter 2:20-21; Jude 4, etc.).
The concept of an un-conditional eternal security is not established in Scripture …. except for it being Satan’s first teaching, his first lie – the “ye shall NOT surely die” lie (Genesis 2:17, 3:4).
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Conspiracy is Reality [podcast]

The Prophesied End Times Conspiracy of False Leaders [podcast]
“There is a CONSPIRACY of her prophets (apostate leaders) in the midst thereof” Ezekiel 22:25
One source notes the following concerning Ezekiel 22’s expose of how the false leaders conspire to betray God and the people.
“In Ezekiel 22, the prophet condemns the systemic corruption of Jerusalem’s leaders. He specifically exposes a “conspiracy” among the false prophets who actively preyed on the people, perverted God’s law, and covered up the sins of the nation to enrich themselves.”
The following definition for “conspiracy” is found in the Webster’s 1828 dictionary:
1. A combination of men for an evil purpose; an agreement between two or more persons, to commit some crime in concert; particularly, a combination to commit treason, or excite sedition or insurrection against the government of a state; a plot; as a conspiracy against the life of a king; a conspiracy against the government.
More than forty had made this conspiracy. Acts 23.
2. In law, an agreement between two or more persons, falsely and maliciously to indict, or procure to be indicted, an innocent person of felony.”
“Conspiracy” is a Bible word which in itself, due to God’s use of it, makes it a divine reality (Ezekiel 22:25-27). Denial changes nothing. The Bible even gives us a glimpse into a “conspiracy” that occurred in eternity past where Lucifer and a third of God’s angels conspired and rebelled against Him, only to be forever vanquished from His holy presence (Isaiah 14:12-14; Ezekiel 28: Revelation 12:4, 7-12).
To say there is not conspiracy is to reveal that the evil one has accomplished his work of deceiving us. To say there is no conspiracy is to say there is no evil or evil one and that he has no evil workers, that is, human agents who are under his power.
According to 2 John 10-11 we will be judged with evil doers if we condone, support them in any way. Also, a major truth of discerning is found in Ezekiel 22:25-27.
Conspiracy is reality and is nothing new. Evil men have always conspired against God and His people (Ezekiel 22:25-27). Conspiracy began in eternity past in Heaven when lucifer/satan conspired against the Almighty, garnering a third of the angels to rebel in a conspiracy with him, against God (Revelation 12:4, 7-12). Those who want you to believe their lies are winning apparently. They are evil doers, agents of Satan, the first to conspire against the LORD and what is right. The FBI is the evil entity that invented the term “conspiracy theory” in order to cover the evils they do. Gullibility is not a virtue.
Interestingly, hatred for Christ and His saints even brings people together in a “conspiracy” who were previously enemies.
“And the same day Pilate and Herod were made friends together: for before they were at enmity between themselves.” Luke 23:12
In this case above, Pilate and Herod were brought together to betray the Messiah. Pilate, the ruler of the Jews, represents religion and Herod, the Roman ruler, represents the civil or civilian populace. The same is at hand today and will increase against Jesus and His people as the day of His blessed return nears.
All rulers, men and women in authority, who do not bow down and “kiss the Son,” will be utterly destroyed by the Ruler of all rulers (read Psalms 2).
“And it shall come to pass in that day, that the LORD shall PUNISH the host of the high ones that are on high, and the kings of the earth upon the earth.” Isaiah 24:21
The LORD Jesus will return with unprecedented, holy violence against the wicked:
“And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. 12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself. 13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. 14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean. 15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. 16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.” Revelations 19:11-16
Jesus told us that Satan has come to “steal, and to kill, and to destroy” (John 10:10). So, if you are a true child of God, you are being conspired against due to being His child. The Bible says that wicked wolves “lie in wait to deceive” (Ephesians 4:14). “Rejoice”!
“Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness’ sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. 11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake. 12 Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.” Matthew 5:10-12
BIRDS OF A FEATHER TRULY DO FLOCK TOGETHER
The Bible clearly teaches that anyone who fellowships with, yokes with wolves IS one himself.
“Conspiracy” is not a theory but rather a divine revelation! “Conspiracy” is a divinely-given truth, a reality, and a fact of life:
“There is a CONSPIRACY of her prophets (apostate leaders) in the midst thereof, like a roaring lion ravening the prey; they have DEVOURED SOULS; they have taken the treasure and precious things; they have made her many widows in the midst thereof. 26 Her priests (leaders) have violated my law (Word), and have profaned mine holy things: they have put no difference between the holy and profane, neither have they shewed difference between the unclean and the clean, and have hid their eyes from my sabbaths, and I am profaned among them. 27 Her princes (leaders) in the midst thereof are like wolves ravening the prey, to shed blood, and to DESTROY SOULS, to get dishonest gain (greed mongering hirelings).” Ezekiel 22:25-27
Conspiracy is a reality until Christ puts down all rebellion. Till then there will be men and devils conspiring against Jesus and His saints. Remember that wolves often travel in packs due to their cowardliness (Proverbs 28:1). The “the spirit of antichrist” possesses these wolves. “The spirit of antichrist” involves sinful men and Satan who are in rebellion against the Almighty (1John 4:1-3). The most insidious of these are those traitors in our very midst who pose as children of God and yet are tares, fruit-less apostates (Acts 20:27-31; Jude 1; 2 Peter 3, etc.).
Of these apostates, those who once knew God and have since departed from the faith and Christ, the Bible says that they are “crept in unawares (undetected)” (Jude 4).
“These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots;” Jude 12
Was not our LORD Himself betrayed by an insider whom He had chosen?
Jesus promised us that as His return draws near, “the love of many shall wax cold” due to iniquity abounding in the earth and among those who claim to know Jesus yet don’t (Matthew 24:10-13).
David was constantly conspired against by the counsels of the wicked who plotted his destruction and out of whose vile hands the Almighty delivered him repeatedly. In fact, the book of Psalms records more specific data about conspiracy against the righteous than any other book in the canon of Holy Scripture. So often David, a man after God’s own heart, was pursued by the wicked doers of his day. Haman created hanging gallows to kill Mordecai and the Jews but the LORD had him hung on those very gallows. God will always get the last say! Paul was often conspired against by the Jews. At one place he had to be let down in a basket to escape the wrath of wicked men (Acts 9:25).
Those who are choosing to be on the LORD’s side have the LORD’s watch care and protection (Psalms 91).
“The angel of the LORD encampeth round about them that fear him, and delivereth them. ” Psalms 34:7
Those whom Christ has found and saved and are presently abiding in Him, are His sheep, and He will save them from His conspiring enemies and preserve them unto everlasting life. He will also preserve the wicked to eternally torment them, salting them to preserve their torment for ever (Mark 9:43-49).
“The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished.” 2 Peter 2:9
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Abiding
The Damning Myth of Unconditional Eternal Security! [podcast]

HELL Awaits!
SO YOU THINK YOU ARE ETERNALLY SECURE? WHO TOLD YOU THAT LIE? NOT GOD!
IT SIMPLY DOESN’T MATTER HOW POPULAR A PREACHER IS – IF HE’S TEACHING SATAN’S FIRST LIE THAT CAUSED THE FALL OF THE HUMAN RACE – OSAS/ETERNAL SECURITY – HE’S A FALSE TEACHER, AN AGENT OF SATAN (Genesis 2:17; 3:4). OF COURSE he’s popular – he’s not preaching the cross but rather excuses for sin against a Holy God! RUN from that devil!
You will be safe and eternally secure when you get to Heaven, not before.
ARE YOU enduring sound doctrine today or walking in lies? (2 Timothy 4:2-4)
There are not a few but rather “MANY adversaries” – “For a great door and effectual is opened unto me, and there are MANY adversaries.” (1 Corinthians 16:9) All born again believers who are presently abiding/remaining in Christ are exclusively going to be with Christ (John 15:6). All others are destined for irrevocable damnation in hell.
OSAS/eternal security is irrefutably Satan’s first lie and anyone teaching it is an agent of Satan Himself – Genesis 2:17; 3:4.
MOST Christians have been weakened in their resolve via Satan’s first lie which is peddled today under the clichés of OSAS (once saved always saved or eternal security). This unconditional security heresy removes the holy fear of God from the hearts of those who allow it and lowers their guard, always leading to sin. This is EXACTLY what happened to Adam and Eve when this doctrine of devils was introduced to them (Genesis 2:17; 3:4).
Remember that Satan is the first one to teach this eternal security lie (Genesis 2:17; 3:4). Now, who’s peddling this same lie today, other than Satan’s human agents?
More proof that false prophets teach unconditional eternal security/OSAS:
“They say still unto them that despise me, The LORD hath said, Ye shall have peace (eternal security); and they say unto every one that walketh after the imagination of his own heart, No evil (judgment) shall come upon you.” Jeremiah 23:17
Satan and his false leaders are the only ones teaching OSAS as is clear from God’s Word (Genesis 2:17; 3:4; Jeremiah 23:17; Jude 4).
Concerning Satan’s OSAS/eternal security heresy, one sister testifies: “This doctrine almost sent me to hell, thinking I was on my way to heaven while living in sin. It’s repulsive and damning. It feeds the ego and wicked mind of man. It props him up for a great fall. It’s a deadly and hellish deception.”
The central reason people want to believe OSAS is that they simply do not want to truly repent and die to self.
Like it or not, if you are peddling Satan’s first lie (Genesis 2:17; 3:4) – OSAS/eternal security – you are of him and not God. A false teacher is simply anyone who is teaching falsely.
IMAGINE THE TRUTH FOR JUST A MOMENT …..
The bowels of eternal damnation – hell – is chock full of eternally vanquished – irrevocably departed – consciously and forever suffering souls who once had the same opportunity you now temporarily have. There is no and will never be a release date from the incarceration of this righteous justice of the Almighty. Yet, even though many of those who now occupy hell got initially saved, they chose to deny Christ instead of self in their daily lives. They therefore ran out of fuel and like the 5 foolish virgins, had the door into the bridal chamber with Christ (the Bridegroom) shut on them! Read Jesus’ words in Matthew 25:1-13.
“For if AFTER they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are AGAIN entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. 21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, AFTER they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them. 22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit AGAIN; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.” 2 Peter 2:20-22
MILLIONS now irrevocably occupy hell, horribly, consciously suffering with no end – ever. Many of these helpless tormented souls were in their earthly life saved by Christ and yet chose not to endure to the end, to abide – REMAIN – in Christ, and just as Jesus promised, were cast into the fires of eternal damnation (Matthew 10:22; 24:13; John 15:6). In fact, their sufferings are even worse than if they’d never known Christ (2 Peter 2:20-22). ANY person teaching an unconditional “eternal security” is a messenger of hell! Rebuke them sharply! (Titus 1:13) If they don’t repent, run! Expose them.
“Study to shew thyself (YOURSELF) approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.” 2 Timothy 2:15
These are the foolish virgins of Jesus’ parable who chose to deny Christ for the cares and riches and pleasures of this fleeting world, to think about and coddle the false god of self …. Upon awaking in their mornings, they freely chose to read the paper, check Facebook and emails, watched the news, etc. …. They freely chose not to fill their vessels with God’s Word ….. and they will never cease to suffer consciously for it….. the lake of fire lies ahead and so it’s just going to get worst! Revelation 20:11-15 … When a billion years of earth’s time have passed, not even 1 second will have expired from eternity’s time clock!!
Is it really worth it?
YOU are going to choose!
No one else can choose for you!
May the LORD Almighty figuratively dip your soul in the bowels of hell. May He shake you to the core of your being … before it’s too late!
RUN for your life from every so-called preacher who refuses to preach on the essential biblical doctrines of repentance, the daily cross, holiness, judgment to come, and hell – and the absolute necessity of enduring to the end after being saved (Jeremiah 23:17; Amos 9:10; Matthew 10:22; 24:13; Colossians 1:22-23; Hebrews 3:6m 12-14; 10:26-39; Revelation 2:26, etc.).
CHRIST said HIS work is finished, not yours (John 19:30). You are taking Christ’s words out of context. The ONE who died on the cross for your sins also commanded YOU to deny yourself, take up your cross, and follow Him daily – and that’s what saving grace looks like (Luke 9:23-24).
“And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:” Revelation 2:26
OSAS is a scam teaching. The lascivious, “once saved always saved (OSAS)” and Calvinistic devils tell others that God requires nothing at all of them after He saves them. But that is clearly a false gospel, another gospel, and they are “accursed” for preaching it (Galatians 1:6-9). Ridiculous. In His Word the LORD gives us initial and ongoing personal responsibilities which if not met, one loses out (Matthew 10:22; 24:13; 25:1-13, etc.). Jesus commanded those He saves to “abide” – to remain in Him to the end or perish (John 15:1-6).
“If a man abide (remain) not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned (hell).” John 15:6
Many do not recognize that in Scripture there is
1. initial salvation and,
2. final salvation.
False teachers will tell you that you only need to get saved initially. Yet the Bible teaches initial and final salvation. Jesus told His own that only those among them who “endure to the end” will be saved into eternal glory (final salvation).
“And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another. 11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. 12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold. 13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.” Matthew 24:10-13
False teachers teach that just because you’ve been initially saved, you are now judgment proof! This is exactly what the false leaders of Israel taught. They refuse to call people to true repentance and personal holiness and promise eternal life/security/peace to those living in sin (2 Corinthians 7:1; Ephesians 5:25-27; Hebrews 12:14; 1 Peter 1:15-16).
Were the Gentile believers judgment proof?
“Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear: 21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee. 22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.” Romans 11:20-22
Did the apostle Paul believe he was judgment proof?
“But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.” 1 Corinthians 9:27
There is no guarantee of unconditional eternal security given in God’s Word and in fact many clear truths which reveal one can “fall away” after being saved (Luke 8:13) or be “cut off” (Romans 11:20-22), or cast into the fires of hell if the believer doesn’t abide/remain in Christ (John 15:6).
“I have not yet figured out how anyone can preach the true Gospel without including the fact of hell that we are saved to escape! In this positive think world, hell has become a `negative` and thus avoided. But it is still a fact that has to be preached, to warn others not to go there.” Shirley Moose Filer
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