Chapter four of a book by David S. Kirkwood titled The Disciple-Making Minister
Here is great question to ask ourselves: How did the early church succeed so well at making disciples without any church buildings, professionally-trained clergy, Bible schools and seminaries, hymnals and overhead projectors, wireless microphones and tape duplicators, Sunday school curriculums and youth ministries, worship teams and choirs, computers and copy machines, Christian radio and TV stations, hundreds of thousands of Christian book titles and even personally-owned Bibles? They didn’t need any of those things to make disciples, and neither did Jesus. And because none of those things were essential then, none are essential now.
When people first hear of house churches, they often mistakenly imagine that the only difference between house churches and institutional churches is their size and their relative abilities to provide “ministry.” People sometimes conclude that the house church cannot offer the quality of ministry provided by churches with buildings. But if one defines “ministry” as that which contributes to the making of disciples, helping them become like Christ and equipping them for service, then institutional churches have no advantage, and as I pointed out in the previous chapter, they may well be disadvantaged. Certainly house churches cannot provide the quantity of multi-faceted activities of institutional churches, but they can excel at providing true ministry.
Some people reject house churches as being true churches, simply because they lack an actual church building. Had those folks lived at any time during the first three hundred years of the church, they would have rejected every single church in the world as being a real church. The fact is that Jesus declared, “For where two or three have gathered together in My name, there I am in their midst” (Matt. 18:20). Jesus said nothing about where believers must gather. And even if there are only two believers, He promised to be present if they gather in His name. What Christ’s disciples often do in restaurants, sharing a meal and exchanging truth, teaching and admonishing one another, is actually closer to the New Testament model of church gatherings than what often happens in many church buildings on Sunday mornings.
In the previous chapter, I enumerated some of the advantages that house churches have over institutional churches. I’d like to begin this chapter enumerating a few more reasons why the house church model is a very valid biblical alternative that can be quite effective in accomplishing the goal of making disciples. First, however, let me state at the outset that my purpose is not to attack institutional churches or their pastors. There are multitudes of godly and sincere pastors of institutional churches who are doing everything they can within their structures to please the Lord. I minister to thousands of institutional pastors every year, and I love and appreciate them very much. They are among the finest people in the world. And it is because I know how incredibly difficult their jobs are that I want to present an alternative that will help them suffer fewer casualties and be more effective and happy at the same time. The house church model is one that is biblical and that potentially lends itself to the effective making of disciples and expansion of God’s kingdom. I have little doubt that the large majority of institutional pastors would be much happier, more effective and more fulfilled if they ministered in a house church setting.
I was an institutional pastor for more than twenty years and did my best then with what I knew. But it was after spending several months visiting many churches on Sunday mornings that I had my first glimpse of what it is like to attend church as a mere “layperson.” It was an eye-opener, and I began to understand why so many people are so unenthusiastic about attending church. Like almost everyone except the pastor, I would sit there politely waiting for the service to be over. When it was, at least then I could interact with others as a participant rather than as a bored spectator. That experience was one of several catalysts that started me thinking about a better alternative, and I began my research on the house church model. I was amazed to discover that millions of house churches exist all over the world, and concluded that house churches have some definite advantages over institutional churches.
Most of the pastors who read this book are not overseeing house churches, but institutional churches. I know that much of what I’ve written might be initially difficult for them to swallow as it may seem so radical at first. But I ask that they give themselves some time to contemplate what I have to say, and I don’t expect them to embrace everything overnight. It is for pastors I have written, motivated by love for them and their churches.
The Only Kind of Church in the Bible
First, and foremost, institutional churches that meet in special buildings are unknown to the New Testament, whereas house churches were clearly the norm in the early church:
And when he realized this, he went to the house of Mary, the mother of John who was also called Mark, where many were gathered together and were praying (Acts 12:12; emphasis added).
…how I did not shrink from declaring to you anything that was profitable, and teaching you publicly [but not in church buildings, obviously] and from house to house…(Acts 20:20; emphasis added)
Greet Prisca and Aquila….Also greet the church that is in their house (Rom. 16:3-5; emphasis added; see also Romans 16:14-15 for mention of two other probable house churches in Rome).
The churches of Asia greet you. Aquila and Prisca greet you heartily in the Lord, with the church that is in their house (1 Cor. 16:19; emphasis added).
Greet the brethren who are in Laodicea and also Nympha and the church that is in her house (Col. 4:15; emphasis added).
And to Apphia our sister, and to Archippus our fellow soldier, and to the church in your house… (Philemon 1:2; emphasis added).
It has been argued that the only reason the early church didn’t build church buildings is because the church was still in her infancy. But that infancy lasted through quite a few decades of recorded New Testament history (and more than two centuries after it). So if the building of church buildings is a sign of the church’s maturity, the church of the apostles of which we read in the book of Acts didn’t ever mature.
I suggest that the reason none of the apostles ever built a church building is because such a thing, at bare minimum, would have been considered outside of God’s will, since Jesus left no such example or instruction. He made disciples without special buildings, and He told His disciples to make disciples. They would have not seen any need for special buildings. It is just that simple. When Jesus told His disciples to go into all the world and make disciples, His disciples did not think to themselves, “What Jesus wants us to do is to build buildings and give sermons to people there once a week.”
Additionally, building special buildings may even have been considered a direct violation of Christ’s commandment to not lay up treasures on the earth, wasting money on something that was entirely unnecessary, and robbing God’s kingdom of resources that could be used for transformational ministry.
Biblical Stewardship
This leads to the second advantage that house churches have over institutional churches: The house church model promotes godly stewardship of its members’ resources, which is certainly an extremely important aspect of discipleship. [ 1 ] No money is wasted on church buildings, owning, renting, repairing, expanding, remodeling, heating or cooling them. Consequently, what would have been wasted on buildings can be used to feed and clothe the poor, spread the gospel, and make disciples, just like it did in the book of Acts. Think of the good that could have been done for God’s kingdom if the billions of dollars spent on church buildings had been used for spreading the gospel and serving the poor! It is almost unimaginable.
Moreover, house churches that consist of no more than twenty people could actually be overseen by “tent-making” (that is, “non-paid”) elders/pastors/overseers, a real possibility when there are a number of mature believers in a house church. Such churches would require virtually no money at all to operate.
Of course, the Bible seems to indicate that elders/pastors/overseers should be paid in proportion to their labor, so those who devote their full time to ministry should make their full living from it (see 1 Tim. 5:17-18). Ten wage earners in a house church who tithe can support one pastor at their average standard of living. Five tithers in a house church can free up a pastor to devote half his workweek to his ministry.
Following the house church model, money that would be used on buildings is freed to support pastors, and so institutional pastors should not think that the proliferation of house churches threatens their job security. Rather, it could mean that many other men and women could realize the desire God has placed in their hearts to serve Him in vocational ministry. [ 2 ] That in turn, would help accomplish the goal of making disciples. Moreover, a house church with twenty wage earners could potentially give one half of its income to mission outreach and the poor. [ 3 ]
If an institutional church transitioned to a network of house churches, the people who might lose their paying jobs would be church administrative and program support staff and perhaps some staff members with specialty ministries (for example, child and youth ministers in larger churches) who would be unwilling to trade ministries that have little biblical basis for ministries that do. House churches don’t need child and youth ministers because parents are given that responsibility in the Bible, and people in house churches generally strive to follow the Bible rather than the norms of cultural Christianity. Christian youth who don’t have Christian parents can be incorporated into house churches and discipled just as they are incorporated into institutional churches. Does anyone wonder why there are no “youth pastors” or “children’s pastors” mentioned in the New Testament? Such ministries didn’t exist for the first 1900 years of Christianity. Why are they suddenly essential now, and primarily in wealthy western countries? [ 4 ]
Finally, in poorer nations in particular, pastors often find it impossible to rent or own church buildings without being subsidized by Western Christians. The undesirable consequences of this dependency are manifold. The fact is, however, that for 300 years the problem didn’t exist in Christianity. If you are pastor in a developing nation whose congregation can’t afford your own church building, you don’t need to flatter some visiting American in hopes of striking gold. God has already solved your problem. You really don’t need a church building to successfully make disciples. Follow the biblical model.
The End of Fragmented Families
Another advantage that house churches have is this: they excel at discipling children and teens. One of the great falsehoods perpetrated by institutional churches today (especially large ones in United States) is that they provide wonderful ministries to children and youth. Yet they hide the fact that the large majority of the children who experience years of fun attending their exciting children and youth ministries never return to church again upon “leaving the nest.” (Ask any youth pastor for the statistics.. he should know them.)
Additionally, churches that have youth pastors and children’s pastors continually promote the falsehood to parents that they are either incapable or not responsible for their children’s spiritual training. Again, “We’ll take care of your children’s spiritual training. We’re the trained professionals.”
The system as it stands breeds failure, because it creates a cycle of ever-increasing compromise. It begins with parents who are looking for churches that their kids enjoy. If teenager Johnny says on the ride home that he had fun in church, the parents are thrilled, because they equate Johnny’s enjoying church with Johnny’s being interesting in spiritual things. They are often dead wrong.
Success-driven senior pastors want their churches to grow, and so youth and children’s pastors often leave staff meetings feeling pressure to create “relevant” programs that kids think are fun. (“Relevant” is always secondary to “fun,” and “relevant” doesn’t necessarily mean, “Lead kids to repent, believe, and obey Jesus’ commandments.”) If the kids can be sold the program, naïve’ parents will return (with their money), and the church will grow.
The success of youth groups in particular is measured by attendance numbers. Youth pastors find themselves doing whatever it takes to pack them in, and that too often means compromising genuine spirituality. Pity the poor youth pastor who hears reports that parents are murmuring to the senior pastor that their kids are complaining about his boring or condemning messages.
But what a blessing youth pastors could be in the body of Christ if they became house church leaders. They normally already have great relational skills and possess young zeal and no lack of energy. Many of them are only youth pastors because that is the required first step for them to gradually acquire the super-human skills required to survive being senior pastors. Most are more than capable of pastoring a house church. What they’ve been doing in their youth group could well be closer to the biblical model of a church than what has been going on in the main sanctuary of the church! The same could be said of children’s pastors, who might be miles ahead of most senior pastors in being able to serve in house churches where everyone, including children, sits in one small circle, all participating and even enjoying some food together.
Children and teens are naturally better discipled in house churches, as they experience true Christian community and have opportunities to participate, ask questions, and relate to people of other ages, all as part of a Christian family. In institutional churches they are continually exposed to a big show and “fun” learning, experience very little if any true community, are often made very aware of pervasive hypocrisy, and just as in school, only learn to relate to their peers.
But in a gathering of all ages, what about babies who cry or little children who become restless?
They should always be enjoyed, and practical steps can be taken to handle them when they pose problems. They can, for example, be taken to another room to be entertained, or given crayons and paper to color on the floor. In the community of a house church, the babies and children are not problems who are dropped off at the nursery staffed by a stranger. They are loved by everyone in their extended family. A baby who starts to cry in an institutional church is often a disturbance to the formality of the service and an embarrassment to the parents who may feel the disapproving stares of strangers. A baby who starts to cry in a house church is surrounded by his family, and no one minds the reminder that a little gift from God is in their midst, a person they’ve all held in their arms.
Parents whose children are uncontrolled can be gently taught by other parents what they need to know. Again, believers have genuine, caring relationships. They aren’t gossiping about one another as is so often the case in an institutional church. They know and love each other.
Happy Pastors
Having pastored churches for two decades, having spoken to tens of thousands of pastors around the world, and having many pastors as personal friends, I think I can say that I know something about the demands of pastoring a modern church. Like every pastor of an institutional church, I have experienced the “dark side” of the ministry. It can be very dark at times. In fact, “brutal” might be a better word to describe it.
The expectations that most pastors encounter naturally create incredible stresses that sometimes even ruin their relationships within their own families. Pastors are discouraged for many reasons. They must be politicians, judges, employers, psychologists, activity directors, building contractors, marriage counselors, public speakers, managers, mind readers and administrators. They often find themselves in fierce competition with other pastors to gain a larger slice of the body of Christ. They have little time for personal spiritual disciplines. Many feel trapped in their vocation and are underpaid. Their congregations are their customers and their employers. Sometimes those employers and customers can make life very difficult.
By comparison, the house church pastor has it easy. First, if he leads an exemplary life of a true disciple and teaches uncompromised obedience to Jesus’ commandments, few goats will have an interest in being part of his group. In fact, just meeting in houses is probably enough to keep many goats away. So he’ll mostly have sheep to pastor.
Second, he can love and disciple all his sheep on a personal basis, because he only has twelve to twenty adults to oversee. He can enjoy real closeness with them, as he is like the father of a family. He can give them the time they deserve. I remember when I was an institutional pastor, I often felt alone. I couldn’t get close with anyone with my congregation, lest others resent me for not including them in my close circle of friends or become jealous of those within that circle. I longed for genuine closeness with other believers, but wouldn’t risk the potential price of gaining true friends.
In the close-knit family of a house church, the members naturally help keep the pastor accountable, as he is their close friend, not an actor on a stage.
The house church pastor can spend time developing leaders of future house churches, so when the time comes to multiply, leaders are ready. He doesn’t have to watch his most promising future leaders take their gifts from the church to a Bible school in another place.
He may well have time to develop other ministry outside his local congregation. Perhaps he could minister in prisons, personal care homes or be involved in one-on-one evangelism to refugees or businesspeople. Depending on his experience, he could conceivably devote some of his time to planting other house churches, or mentoring younger house church pastors who have been raised up under his ministry.
He feels no pressure to be a Sunday-morning performer. He never needs to prepare a three-point sermon on a Saturday night, wondering how he can possibly satisfy so many people who are at so many different levels of spiritual growth. [ 5 ] He can delight in watching the Holy Spirit use everyone at the gatherings and encourage them to use their gifts. He can be absent from meetings and everything works well even without him.
He has no building to distract him and no employees to manage.
He has no reason to compete with other local pastors.
There is no “church board” that exists to make his life miserable and through which political infighting becomes common.
In short, he can be what he is called to be by God, and not what is imposed on him by cultural Christianity. He is not the lead actor, the president of a company, or the center of the hub. He is a disciple maker, an equipper of the saints.
Happy Sheep
Everything about true, biblical house churches is what true believers desire and enjoy.
All true believers long for genuine relationships with other believers, because God’s love has been shed abroad in their hearts. Such relationships are part and parcel of house churches. It is what the Bible refers to as fellowship, genuine sharing of one’s life with other brothers and sisters. House churches create an environment where believers can do what believers are supposed to do, which is found in the many New Testament “one another” passages. In the house church setting, believers can exhort, encourage, edify, comfort, teach, serve and pray for one another. They can provoke each other to love and good works, confess their sins to each other, bear one another’s burdens, and admonish one another with psalms, hymns and spiritual songs. They can weep with those who weep and rejoice with those who rejoice. Such things don’t occur very often during the Sunday morning meetings of institutional churches where believers sit and watch. As one house church member told me, “When someone is sick within our body, I don’t take a meal to a stranger’s house because I signed up for the ‘meal ministry.’ I naturally take a meal to someone I know and love.”
True believers enjoy interaction and involvement with each other. Passively sitting and listening to irrelevant or redundant sermons year after year insults their intelligence and spirituality. Rather, they prefer having an opportunity to share the personal insights they gain concerning God and His Word, and house churches provide that opportunity. Following a biblical model rather than a cultural one, each person ”has a psalm, has a teaching, has a revelation, has a tongue, has an interpretation” (1 Cor. 14:26). In house churches, no one is lost in the crowd or excluded by a church clique.
True believers desire to be used by God in service. In a house church, there is opportunity for everyone to be used to bless others, and responsibilities are shared among all, so that no one experiences the burnout that is common among committed members of institutional churches. At the minimum, everyone can bring food to share for the common meal, what Scripture seems to refer to as the “love feast” (Jude 1:12). For many house churches, that meal follows the example of the original Lord’s Supper, which was part of an actual Passover meal. The Lord’s Supper is not, as a little boy referred to it in a previous institutional church I pastored, “God’s holy snack.” The idea of eating a small wafer and drinking a little juice among strangers during a few seconds of a church service is utterly foreign to the Bible and to biblical house churches. The sacramental meaning of Communion is enhanced manifold during a shared meal among disciples who love each other.
In a house church, worship is simple, sincere and participatory, not a performance. True believers love to worship God in spirit and truth.
Doctrinal Balance and Toleration
In the casual and open forums of small church gatherings, all teaching can be scrutinized by anyone who can read. Brothers and sisters who know and love each other are inclined to respectfully consider viewpoints that differ from theirs, and even if the group doesn’t reach a consensus, love, not doctrine, still binds them together. Any teaching by any person in the group, including elders/pastors/overseers, is subject to loving examination by anyone else, because the Teacher indwells every member (see 1 John 2:27). The built-in checks and balances of a biblical model help prevent it from becoming doctrinally derailed.
This is quite a contrast from the norm in modern institutional churches, where church doctrine is established from the start and not to be challenged. Consequently, bad doctrines endure indefinitely, and doctrine becomes the litmus test of acceptance. For this same reason, one point in a single sermon can result in the immediate exodus of dissenters, who all jump ship to temporarily find some “like-minded believers.” They know there is no sense in even talking to the pastor about their doctrinal disagreement. Even if he was persuaded to change his viewpoint, he would have to keep it hidden from many in the church as well as from those of higher rank within his denomination. Doctrinal differences within institutional churches produce pastors who are some of the most skilled politicians in the world, orators who speak in vague generalities and avoid anything that could result in controversy, leading everyone to think he is in their camp.
A Modern Trend
Interestingly, more and more institutional churches are developing small group structures within their institutional models, recognizing their value in discipleship. Some churches go even further, basing their core structure on small groups, considering them to be the most important aspect of their ministry. Larger “celebratory meetings” are secondary in importance to the small groups (at least in theory).
These are steps in the right direction, and God blesses such steps, as His blessing upon us is proportionate to the degree that we line up with His will. Indeed, “cell churches” are better structured than standard institutional churches to facilitate disciple making. They stand halfway between the institutional church model and the house church model, combining elements of both.
How do modern institutional churches with small groups compare with ancient and modern house churches? There are some differences.
For example, small groups within institutional churches unfortunately sometimes serve to promote much that is wrong within institutional churches, especially when the real motive for starting small group ministry is to build the senior pastor’s church kingdom. He consequently uses people for his own ends, and small groups fit that plan nicely. When this occurs, small group leaders are selected for their tested loyalty to the mother church, and they can’t be too gifted or charismatic, lest the devil fill their heads with ideas that they can make it on their own. This kind of policy hinders the effectiveness of small groups and, just like in any other institutional church, drives off the truly called and aspiring leaders to Bible schools and seminaries, robbing the church of true gifts, and taking such people to a place where they will be lecture-taught rather than on-the-job discipled.
Small groups in institutional churches often evolve into little more than fellowship groups. Disciple-making really doesn’t occur. Since people are supposedly being spiritually fed on Sunday mornings, small groups sometimes focus on other things besides God’s Word, not wanting a repeat of Sunday mornings.
Small groups in institutional churches are often organized by a staff member of the church, rather than birthed by the Spirit. They become one more program among many other church programs. People are put together based on ages, social status, background, interests, marital status or geographical location. Goats are often mixed with sheep. All of this fleshly organization does not help believers learn to love each other in spite of their differences. Remember that many of the early churches were a mixture of Jews and Gentiles. They regularly shared meals together, something forbidden by Jewish tradition. What a learning experience their meetings must have been! What opportunities to walk in love! What testimonies of the power of the gospel! So why do we think we must divide everyone into homogeneous groups to insure success of small groups?
Institutional churches with small groups still have the Sunday morning performance, where spectators watch the pros perform. Small groups are never permitted to meet when there are “real” church services, indicating to all that it is really the institutional services that are most important. Because of that message, many, if not the majority, of Sunday morning attendees will not get involved with a small group even if encouraged to do so, seeing them as optional. They are satisfied that they are attending the most important weekly service. So the small group concept may be promoted as being somewhat significant, but not nearly as significant as the Sunday institutional service. The best opportunity for real fellowship, discipleship and spiritual growth is effectively downplayed. The wrong message is sent. The institutional service is still king.
More Differences
Institutional churches with small groups are still structured like a corporation pyramid, where everyone knows his place in the hierarchy. The people at the top may call themselves “servant leaders,” but they often are more like chief executive officers who are responsible to make executive decisions. The larger the church, the more distant the pastor is from the members of his flock. If he is a true pastor and you can get him to admit the truth in an unguarded moment, he will usually tell you he was happier when he pastored a smaller flock.
Similarly, institutional churches with small groups still promote the clergy-laity division. Small group leaders are always in a subordinate class to the paid professionals. Bible study lessons are often passed down or approved by clergy, since small group leaders can’t be trusted with too much authority. Small groups are not permitted to practice the Lord’s Supper, or baptize. These sacred duties are reserved for the elite class with the titles and diplomas. Those who are called to vocational ministry within the body must go to a Bible school or seminary to be qualified for “real” ministry to join the elite group.
Small groups within institutional churches are sometimes nothing more than mini-church services, lasting no longer than 60 to 90 minutes, where one gifted person leads worship and another gifted person gives the approved teaching. There is little room for the Spirit to use others, distribute gifts, or develop ministers.
People are often not seriously committed to small groups in institutional churches, attending sporadically, and groups are sometimes designed to be temporary, and so the depth of community is lesser than in house churches.
Small groups in institutional churches ordinarily meet during the week so as not to crowd the weekend with another church meeting. Consequently, a midweek small group is normally time-limited to no longer than two hours for those who can attend, and prohibitive for those who have school-age children or who must travel any significant distance.
Even when institutional churches promote small group ministry, there is still a building on which to waste money. In fact, if the small group program adds people to the church, even more money ends up being wasted on building programs. Additionally, organized small groups within institutional churches often require at least one additional paid staff person. That means more money for another church program.
Perhaps worst of all, pastors of institutional churches with small groups are often extremely limited in their personal disciple making. They are so busy with their many responsibilities and find little time for one-on-one discipleship. About the closest they can get is discipling the small group leaders, but even that is often limited to a once-a-month meeting.
All of this is to say that house churches, in my opinion, are more biblical and effective in making and multiplying disciples and disciple-makers. I realize, however, that my opinion is not going to quickly change hundreds of years of church tradition. So I urge institutional pastors to dosomething in the direction of moving their churches to a more biblical model of disciple-making. [ 6 ] They could consider personally discipling future leaders or initiating small group ministry. They could hold an “early-church Sunday” when the church building would be closed and everyone would share a meal in homes and attempt to meet like Christians did for the first three centuries. Pastors who have small groups within their churches could consider releasing some of those small groups to form house churches and see what happens. If small groups are healthy and lead by God-called pastors/elders/overseers, they should be able to operate on their own. They don’t need the mother church any more than any non-affiliated young church needs that mother church. Why not set them free? [ 7 ] The member’s money that is going to the mother church could support the pastor of the house church.
Does my endorsement of house churches mean that there is nothing good to say about institutional churches? Absolutely not. To the degree that disciples who obey Christ are being made in institutional churches, they are to be commended. Their practices and structure, however, can sometimes be more of hindrance than a help to reaching the goal Christ has set before us, and they are often pastor killers.
What Happens at a House Church Gathering?
Not every house church needs to be structured the same, and there is room for a lot of variation. Every house church should reflect its own cultural and social nuances—one reason why house churches can be very effective in evangelism, especially in countries that have no Christian cultural tradition. House church members don’t invite their neighbors to a church building that appears completely foreign to them where they would be involved in rituals that are completely foreign to them—major obstacles to conversions. Rather, they invite their neighbors to a meal with their friends.
The common meal is generally a major component of a house church meeting. For many house churches, that meal includes or is the Lord’s Supper, and each individual house church can decide how to best bring out its spiritual significance. As previously mentioned, the originalLord’s Supper began as an actual Passover meal that was packed with spiritual significance by itself. Celebrating the Lord’s Supper as a meal or part of a meal is the apparent pattern followed when the early believers gathered. We read of the early Christians:
And they were continually devoting themselves to the apostles’ teaching and to fellowship, to the breaking of bread and to prayer….And day by day continuing with one mind in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, they were taking their meals together with gladness and sincerity of heart (Acts 2:42, 46; emphasis added).
The early Christians were literally taking loaves of bread, breaking them, and sharing them together, something that was done at practically every meal in their culture. Could that breaking of bread during a meal have had some spiritual significance to the early Christians? The Bible doesn’t say for certain. However, William Barclay writes in his book, The Lord’s Supper, “It is not in doubt that the Lord’s Supper began as a family meal or a meal of friends in a private house….The idea of a tiny piece of bread and a sip of wine bears no relation at all to the Lord’s Supper as it originally was….The Lord’s Supper was originally a family meal in a household of friends.” It is amazing that every modern biblical scholar agrees with Barclay, yet the church still follows its tradition rather than God’s Word on this issue!
Jesus commanded His disciples to teach their disciples to obey all that He had commanded them, so when He commanded them to eat bread and drink wine together in remembrance of Him, they would have taught their disciples to do the same. Could that have been done at common meals? It certainly seems as if it was when we read some of Paul’s words to the Corinthians believers:
Therefore when you meet together [and he is not talking about meeting in church buildings, because there were none] it is not to eat the Lord’s Supper, for in your eating each one takes his own supper first; and one is hungry and another is drunk (1 Cor. 11:20-21; emphasis added).
How would such words make any sense if Paul was speaking about the Lord’s Supper as it is practiced in modern churches? Have you ever heard of the problem of anyone in a modern church service taking his own supper first, and one being hungry while another one is drunk in conjunction with the Lord’s Supper? Such words would only make sense if the Lord’s Supper was done in conjunction with a real meal. Paul continues:
What! Do you not have houses in which to eat and drink? Or do you despise the church of God [remember, Paul was not writing about a church building, but a gathering of people, the church of God], and shame those who have nothing? What shall I say to you? Shall I praise you? In this I will not praise you (1 Cor. 11:22).
How would people be shamed who had nothing if what was being done was not in the context of an actual meal? Paul was pointing out the fact that some of the Corinthian believers who arrived earliest at their gatherings ate their own meal without waiting for the others to arrive. When some arrived who were perhaps so poor that they brought no food to share at the common meal, they were not only left hungry, but also shamed because it was so obvious they had brought nothing.
Immediately after this, Paul wrote more about the Lord’s Supper, a sacrament that he “received from the Lord” (1 Cor. 11:23), and he recounted what happened at the first Lord’s Supper (see 1 Cor. 11:24-25). He then warned the Corinthians against partaking of the Lord’s Supper in an unworthy manner, stating that if they didn’t judge themselves, they could actually eat and drink judgment upon themselves in the form of weakness, sickness and even premature death (see 1 Cor. 11:26-32).
He then concluded,
So then, my brethren, when you come together to eat, wait for one another. If anyone is hungry, let him eat at home, so that you may not come together for judgment (1 Cor. 11:33-34).
Contextually, the offense being committed at the Lord’s Supper was inconsideration of other believers. Paul again warned that those who were eating their own supper first at what was supposed to be a shared, common meal, were in danger of being judged (or disciplined) by God. The solution was simple. If one was so hungry that he couldn’t wait for the others, he should eat something before he came to the gathering. And those who arrived earliest should wait for those who arrived later for the meal, a meal that apparently included or was the Lord’s Supper.
When we look at the entire passage, it seems clear Paul was saying that if it was the Lord’s Supper that was being eaten, it would be done in a way that it was pleasing to the Lord, reflecting love and consideration for each other.
In any case, it is crystal clear that the early church practiced the Lord’s Supper as part of a common meal in homes without an officiating clergy. Why don’t we?
Bread and Wine
The nature of the elements of the Lord’s Supper are not the most important thing. If we must strive for perfect imitation of the original Lord’s Supper, we would have to know the exact ingredients of the bread and the exact kind of grapes from which the original wine was made. (Some of the church fathers during the first few centuries strictly prescribed that the wine had to be diluted with water, otherwise the Eucharist was being practiced improperly.)
Bread and wine were some of the most common elements of the ancient Jewish meals. Jesus gave profound significance to two things that were incredibly common, foods that practically everyone consumed each day. Had He visited another culture at a different time in history, the first Lord’s Supper may have consisted of cheese and goat’s milk, or rice cakes and pineapple juice. So any food and drink could potentially represent His body and blood at a common meal shared among His disciples. The important thing is the spiritual significance. Let us not neglect the spirit of the law while succeeding at keeping the letter of it!
It is not necessary that common meals be deathly solemn. The early Christians, as we already read, broke “bread from house to house…taking their meals together with gladness and sincerity of heart” (Acts 2:46; emphasis added). Seriousness, however, is certainly appropriate during that portion of the meal when Jesus’ sacrifice is remembered and the elements are consumed. Self-examination is always appropriate before eating the Lord’s Supper, as indicated by Paul’s solemn words of warning to the Corinthian believers in 1 Corinthians 11:17-34. Any transgression of Christ’s commandment to love one another is an invitation to God’s discipline. Any and all strife and division should be resolved before the meal. Every believer should examine himself, and confess any sins, which would be the equivalent of “judging yourself,” to use Paul’s words.
The Spirit Manifested Through the Body
The common meal could occur before or after a meeting in which worship, teachings and spiritual gifts are shared. It is up to each individual house church to determine its format, and formats can vary from gathering to gathering of the same house church.
It is very clear from Scripture that the early church gatherings were quite different from modern institutional church services. In particular, 1 Corinthians 11-14 gives us an abundance of insight into what happened when the early Christians gathered, and there isn’t any reason to think that the same format cannot and should not be followed today. It is also clear that what occurred in the early church gatherings described by Paul could only have happened in small group settings. What Paul described could not have occurred logistically in a large meeting.
I will be the first to admit that I don’t understand all that Paul wrote within those four chapters of 1 Corinthians. However, it seems obvious that the most outstanding characteristic of the gatherings described in 1 Corinthians 11-14 was the Holy Spirit’s presence among them and His manifestation through members of the body. He gave gifts to individuals for the edification of the entire body.
Paul lists at least nine spiritual gifts: prophecy, tongues, interpretation of tongues, the word of knowledge, the word of wisdom, discerning of spirits, gifts of healings, faith, and working of miracles. He does not state that all of these gifts were manifested at every gathering, but certainly implies the possibility of their operation and seems to summarize some of the more common manifestations of the Spirit in 1 Corinthians 14:26:
What is the outcome then, brethren? When you assemble, each one has a psalm, has a teaching, has a revelation, has a tongue, has an interpretation. Let all things be done for edification.
Let’s consider all five of these common manifestations, and in a later chapter more thoroughly consider the nine gifts of the Spirit listed in 1 Corinthians 12:8-10.
First on the list is the psalm. Spirit-given psalms are mentioned by Paul in two of his other letters to churches, underscoring their place in Christian gatherings.
And do not get drunk with wine, for that is dissipation, but be filled with the Spirit, speaking to one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody with your heart to the Lord (Eph. 5:18-19).
Let the word of Christ richly dwell within you, with all wisdom teaching and admonishing one another with psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with thankfulness in your hearts to God (Col. 3:16).
The difference between psalms, hymns and spiritual songs is unclear, but the primary point is that all are based on Christ’s words, are Spirit-inspired, and should be sung by believers to teach and admonish one another. Certainly many of the hymns and choruses that believers have sung throughout church history would fall into one of those categories. Unfortunately, too many modern hymns and choruses lack biblical depth, indicating they were not Spirit-given, and because they are so shallow, have no real value to teach and admonish believers. Nevertheless, believers who gather in house churches should expect that the Spirit will not only inspire individual members to lead well-known Christian songs, old and new, but will also give special songs to some of the members that can be utilized for the common edification. Indeed, how special it is for churches to have their own Spirit-given songs!
Teaching
Second on Paul’s list is teaching. This again indicates that anyone might share a Spirit-inspired teaching at a gathering. Of course, every teaching would be judged to see if it lined up with the apostles’ teaching (as everyone was devoted to that: see Acts 2:42) and we should do the same today. But note that there is no indication here or anywhere in the New Testament that the same person gave a sermon every week when local churches met, dominating the gathering.
There were, in Jerusalem, larger gatherings at the Temple at which the apostles taught. We know that elders were also given teaching responsibility in churches, and that some people are called to a teaching ministry. Paul did a lot of teaching, publicly and from house to house (see Acts 20:20). In the small gatherings of believers, however, the Holy Spirit might use others to teach besides apostles, elders or teachers.
When it comes to teaching, it would seem that we would be greatly advantaged over the early church to be able to bring personal copies of the Bible with us to our gatherings. On the other hand, perhaps our easy access to the Bible has helped us elevate doctrine above loving God with all our hearts and loving our neighbors as ourselves, robbing us of the very life that God’s Word was meant to impart. We have been doctrinalized to death. Many small group Bible studies are every bit as irrelevant and boring as Sunday morning sermons. A good rule to follow in regard to house church teachings is this: If the older children aren’t hiding their boredom, the adults are probably hiding theirs. Kids are great truth barometers.
Revelation
Third, Paul lists “revelation.” That could mean anything that is revealed by God to some member of the body. For example, Paul specifically mentions how an unbeliever might visit a Christian gathering and have “the secrets of heart…disclosed” by means of gifts of prophecy. The result is that he would be “convicted” and “called to account” and “will fall on his face and worship God, declaring that God is certainly among you” (1 Corinthians 14:24-25).
Here we once again see that the real presence of the Holy Spirit was an expected feature of church gatherings, and that supernatural things would occur because of His presence. The early Christians really believed Jesus’ promise that, “Where two or three have gathered together in My name, there I am in their midst” (Matt. 18:20). If Jesus Himself was in their midst, miracles could happen. They literally “worshipped in the Spirit of God” (Phil. 3:3).
In any case, prophecy, which I will say more about shortly, might contain revelation about people’s hearts. But revelation could be given about other things and by other means, such as through dreams or visions (see Acts 2:17).
Tongues and Interpretation
Fourth, Paul listed two gifts that work together, tongues and the interpretation of tongues. In Corinth, there was an overabundance and abuse of speaking in tongues. Namely, people were speaking in tongues during the church gatherings and there was no interpretation, so no one knew what was being said. We might wonder how the Corinthians could be blamed, as it would seem the fault of the Holy Spirit for giving people the gift of tongues without giving anyone the gift of interpretation. There is a very satisfactory answer to that question which I will address in a later chapter. In any case, Paul did not forbid speaking in tongues (as do many institutional churches). Rather, he forbade the forbidding of speaking in tongues, and declared this was the Lord’s commandment (see 1 Corinthians 14:37-39)! [ 8 ] It was a gift that, when used properly, could edify the body and affirm God’s supernatural presence in their midst. It was God speaking through people, reminding them of His truth and His will.
Paul did make a strong case in chapter 14 for the superiority of prophecy over non-interpreted tongues-speaking. He strongly encouraged the Corinthians to desire to prophesy, and this indicates that gifts of the Spirit are more likely to be manifested among those who desire them. Similarly, Paul admonished the Thessalonian believers, “Do not quench the Spirit; do not despise prophetic utterances” (1 Thes. 5:19). This indicates that believers can “quench” or “put out the fire of” the Spirit by harboring a wrong attitude towards the gift of prophecy. That is, no doubt, why the gift of prophecy is so rarely manifested among most believers today.
How to Start
House churches are birthed by the Holy Spirit through the ministry of a house-church planter or an elder/pastor/overseer who is given a vision for a house church by God. Keep in mind that a biblical elder/pastor/overseer may be what the institutional church refers to as a mature layperson. No house church planter needs a formal ministry education.
Once the vision for a house church is given by the Spirit to the founder, he needs to seek the Lord regarding others who might join him. The Lord will bring him in contact with people with a similar vision, confirming his leading. Or he may be led to receptive unbelievers whom he can lead to Christ and then disciple in a house church.
Those who are just beginning a house church adventure should anticipate that it will take time for the members to feel comfortable with each other and learn to relate and flow with the Spirit. It will be trial and error along the way. The concepts of every-member participation, biblical servant leadership, equipping elders, the Holy Spirit’s leading and gifts, a common meal, and a casual yet spiritual atmosphere are quite foreign to those who are only familiar with institutional church services. Thus the application of grace and patience is wise as a new house church is birthed. The initial format may be more a home Bible study, with one person leading worship, another sharing a prepared teaching, and then closing with an opportunity for corporate prayer, fellowship and a meal. However, as the biblical format for house churches is studied by the group, the elder/pastor/overseer should encourage the members to strive for God’s best. Then, enjoy the ride!
House church meetings can circulate from one member’s house to another each week, or one person can open his home each week. Some house churches occasionally move to scenic outdoor spots when the weather is nice. The meeting time and place does not have to be Sunday morning, but anytime that best works for the members. Finally, it is best to start small, with no more than twelve people.
How to Transition from Institution to House Church
Most likely, the majority of pastors who are reading this are working within the structures of institutional churches, and perhaps you, dear reader, are one of them. If I’ve touched a chord within you that longs for the kind of church I’ve been describing, then you are already wondering how you can make the transition. Let me encourage you to take your time. Start by teaching only biblical truth and doing whatever you can within the framework of your existing structure to make disciples who obey Jesus’ commandments. True disciples are much more likely to want to make the transition to a biblical church structure as they understand it. Goats and religious people are much more likely to resist any such transitions.
Second, study what Scripture says on the subject and teach your congregation about house church structures and their inherent blessings. You could eventually cancel your midweek or Sunday evening church service to begin weekly cell meetings in homes overseen by mature believers. Encourage everyone to attend. Increasingly pattern those meetings to follow the format of the biblical model of house churches as closely as possible. Then, allow time for the people to begin to fully enjoy the blessings of their small group.
Once most everyone is enjoying the home meetings, you might announce that a certain Sunday in the next month is going to be “Early Church Sunday.” That Sunday, the church building will be closed and everyone will go to homes to meet just like the early church did, enjoying a full meals together, the Lord’s Supper, fellowship, prayer, worship, shard teaching and spiritual gifts. If it is a success, you could start having such meetings one Sunday of every month, then eventually two Sundays, and then three Sundays. Eventually, you could release every group to be an independent house church, free to grow and multiply, and perhaps come together for larger meetings once every couple of months.
This whole transition process I’ve described could take from one to two years.
Or, if you want to go even more cautiously, you could begin just one home gathering with a few of your most interested members that you lead yourself. (Again, house churches don’t have to meet on Sunday mornings.) It could be presented as an experiment and would certainly be a learning experience for all.
If it succeeds, then appoint an overseer and release the group to become an independent church that would only join the institutional Sunday service once per month. That way the new church would still be a part of the mother church, and would not be viewed so negatively by those still within the institutional congregation. That could also help influence others within the church to consider being part of another house church being planted by the institutional church.
If the first group grows, prayerfully divide it so that both groups have good leaders and sufficient gifts within their members. Both groups could meet together in a larger celebration on agreed-upon occasions, perhaps once a month or once every three months.
Regardless of the path you take, keep your eye on the goal even through the disappointments, of which there will likely be a few. House churches consist of people, and people cause problems. Don’t give up.
It is highly unlikely that everyone in your entire institutional church congregation will make such a transition, so you would have to decide at what point you will personally begin to devote yourself completely to a house church or group of house churches, leaving the institution behind. That will be a significant day for you!
The Ideal Church
Could a pastor of a house church actually be more successful in God’s eyes than a pastor of a mega-church with a huge building and thousands in attendance every Sunday? Yes, if he is multiplying obedient disciples and disciple-makers, following Jesus’ model, as opposed to simply gathering goats once a week to watch a concert and listen to an entertaining speech sanctified by a few out-of-context scriptures.
A pastor who determines to follow the house church model will never have a large congregation of his own. In the long run, however, he will have much lasting fruit, as his disciples make disciples. Many pastors of “small” congregations of 40 or 50 people who are striving for more might need to adjust their thinking. Their churches might already be too large. Perhaps they should stop praying for a bigger building and start praying about who should be appointed to lead two new house churches. (Please, when that happens, don’t give your new denomination a name and yourself the title of “bishop”!)
We need to eradicate the thinking that bigger is better when it comes to church. If we were to judge purely on a biblical basis, single congregations consisting of hundreds of undiscipled spectators who meet in special buildings would be considered quite strange. If any of the original apostles visited modern institutional churches, they would be scratching their heads!
Footnotes:
1. See “Jesus on Money” under Biblical Topics on the home page of Stewardship.
2. Although it may sound radical, the only real reason that church buildings are needed is because of the lack of leaders who would oversee smaller house churches, which is the result of poor discipleship of potential leaders within institutional churches. Could it be that pastors of large institutional churches are actually guilty of robbing God-called pastors within their congregations of their rightful ministries? Yes.
3. This one-to-ten or -twenty ratio should not be considered pastoral overkill in light of Jesus’ biblical model of discipling twelve men and Moses’ delegated judges over ten people (See Exodus 18:25). Most institutional pastors oversee many more people than they can effectively disciple on their own.
4. We might also question why there are no “senior pastors,” “associate pastors” or “assistant pastors” mentioned in Scripture. Again, these titles that seem so essential in the modern church because of its structure were unnecessary in the early church because of its structure. House churches of twenty people don’t need senior, associate and assistant pastors.
5. Many pastors never become good orators, even though they are God-called, caring servants of Christ. In fact, is it being too harsh to say that many sermons by pastors are boring, or at least boring at times? What one church-critic refers to as “the thousand-yard stare” is very common among the pew sitters. But those same pastors who are boring orators are often very good conversationalists, and people rarely become bored while they are engaged in conversation with one another. That is why the interactive teaching at house churches is usually always interesting. Time flies during such times, as contrasted with the many covert glances at wristwatches during church sermons. House church pastors don’t have to worry about being boring.
6. One of my favorite definitions of the word insanity is this: Doing the same thing repeatedly and hoping for different results. Pastors can teach for years about every member’s responsibility to be involved in disciple-making, but unless they do something to change formats or structures, people will continue to come to church to sit, listen and go home. Pastor, if you continue to do what has not changed people in the past, it will not change people in the future. Change what you are doing!
7. Of course, the primary reason that many pastors are adverse to this idea is because they are actually building their own kingdoms, not God’s kingdom.
8. I am aware, of course, that there are those who relegate all supernatural manifestations of the Spirit to the first century, at which time they supposedly ceased. Thus, we have no reason to seek what the early church experienced, and speaking in tongues is no longer valid. I have little sympathy with such people who are like modern-day Sadducees. As one who has on several occasions praised God in Japanese according to Japanese speakers who heard me, and having never learned Japanese, I know these gifts have not ceased to be given by the Holy Spirit. I also wonder why these Sadducees maintain the Holy Spirit still calls, convicts and regenerates sinners, but deny the Spirit’s work beyond those miracles. This kind of “theology” is the product of human unbelief and disobedience, has no scriptural support, and actually works against Christ’s goal. It is direct disobedience to Christ according to what Paul wrote in 1 Corinthians 14:37.
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Apostasy
The Idiocy of Calvinism

The Five Filthy Falsehoods of Calvinism
The Shocking Connection between Calvinism and Catholicism
Calvinism’s Terrible TULIP:
- Total Depravity
- Unconditional Election
- Limited Atonement
- Irresistible Grace
- Perseverance of the Saints
Calvinism and dispensationalism are example of cult systems that displace the final divine authority of Holy Scripture (2 Timothy 3:16-17). Not even 1 point of calvinism is true. All 5 points of calvinism are patently false.
Below is more on the corruption of Calvinism and those “ungodly men” who teach and promote these false doctrines (Jude 3-4).
Calvinism is NOT Christianity …. it’s a diabolical perversion of the message of Christ and His holy apostles and fulfills Jude’s prophecy in Jude 3-4.
WHEN you hear someone use the terminology “sovereign grace” you know you are dealing with a deceived calvinist who has bought into a false gospel that intentionally over-emphasizes grace while ignoring divine holiness and justice and the God-given conditions for abiding in Christ. Cross-less. Rebuke and run if they don’t repent – which they most likely won’t because they are intoxicated with this delusion. Calvinism is a system, a set of doctrines of devils that grossly misrepresents Christ and His original Gospel! Calvinism and the Devils who Peddle it Busted!
Jim Borge writes: “I was brought up Lutheran and taught that the Reformation was a good thing. How untrue. What the Church needed was REVIVAL (righteousness and truth!), and not more dead doctrines of men!”
Jim Borge is correct: In the period of time we call “the dark ages,” when darkness had fallen on the peoples of the earth through the antichrist cult of Rome, the body of Christ simply needed and now needs to get back to the Bible. It doesn’t need to be mixed or rewritten but rather to be read honestly and thoroughly (2 Timothy 2:15; 3:16-17). The Word of God, like its divine Author, “is settled in heaven,” for ever and is unchanging, is eternally constant (Psalms 119:89; Isaiah 40:8; Mark 13:31, etc.).
We must go back further than the “reformation.” Nothing needed to be RE-formed…. because we have a Bible which is the final divine authority (Mark 13:31; 2 Timothy 3:15-17; 2 Peter 1:19-21, etc.). Many of the “reformers” were absolute heretics such as the demon possessed murderous maniac, John Calvin.
“For ever, O LORD, thy word is settled in heaven.” Psalms 119:89
Yet there was much mixture and error that came from the so-called “reformers.” We don’t need them – we need God’s Word. Some waste hours and even years studying “church history” instead of just getting into the Word of God. Sad. Today’s long established apostate seminaries spend more time on church history and other extra-biblical books than the Bible. The Bible is set aside and attention is given to what mere men said about the Bible instead of simply reading God’s Word itself. Beware. | Church History or the Scriptures?
“Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away.” Mark 13:31
Calvinism is a cancer being spread by some of the most insidious wolves in the business. Oh and I mean business because they are about their father Satan’s business.
— TOTAL DEPRAVITY
Calvinists say that God punishes man for what man can’t help and that God supposedly commands men to do something man can’t do and then turns around and judges those men for what they can’t do. Here’s what I mean: Calvinism’s TULIP (five falsehoods) begin with “total depravity” (the “T) which in this evil theology means that man is so depraved that he has no ability to respond to God when God draws that man.
The doctrine of “total depravity” as created and defined by Calvinists, means that man is so very sinful that he has no will or ability to make the decision to obey what God demands – repentance and faith in Christ (Acts 20:21). So their terminology and definition of “total depravity” is not only ludicrous but patently false.
“In either scenario the first step is the same and from this understanding everything else in the Calvinistic system follows. The doctrine of Total Depravity says that due to the sin nature that we are born with man is incapable of hearing the Gospel and responding to it in a positive manner, i.e., respond in faith and trust God for our salvation through his Son Christ Jesus. Without God first making us able to have faith in Christ, after having chosen us to such a grace (and conversely, not choosing the others), we would never have faith in Christ.” Kirby Hopper
So even though God “commandeth ALL men everywhere to repent” and “is not willing that ANY should perish,” according to this evil theology, he only gives certain, special, elite people the ability or gift to repent and be saved. Such an idea is unscriptural, misleading, and completely false (Acts 17:30; 2 Peter 3:9). Actually, in this Satanic system, the demon god it depicts, repents for those special, respect-above-all-the-others persons. These Calvinists frame themselves as the elite elect who have no personal responsibility. The Bible teaches that we must receive and not deny Christ to be His elect. The “called, chosen, and FAITHFUL” will be with Him (Revelation 17:14). So, Calvinism has twisted the meaning of the “elect.” Even though the Bible informs us that “There is NO respect of persons with God,” the false god (evil spirit) behind Calvinism is said to have had respect of persons by arbitrarily hating and assigning some to eternal damnation in the lake of fire before the foundation of the world (Romans 2:11). That my friends, is not the one true God revealed in Holy Scripture who “is love.” (1 John 4:16)
“Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:” Matthew 25:41
Jesus says that hell was NOT originally created for any man. He said hell is created for the devil and his angels and yet calvinism teaches that God ordained certain, the un-elect to go to hell from the foundation of the world (Matt 25:41). God’s Word says that Jesus “is the propitiation (atoning sacrifice) for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for THE SINS OF THE WHOLE WORLD.” (1 John 2:2) Jesus foretold that He was going to go to the cross to die and “draw ALL men” to Himself and so that has to mean He intends to save all men (John 12:32).
DID or did not Jesus die for “ALL men”?
The diabolical cult of calvinism claims that Jesus died for some and not “ALL men.” Anyone who believes the system of calvinistic lies is a highly delusional counterfeit.
“God our Saviour; 4 Who WILL (it’s His will) have ALLLLL men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; 6 Who gave himself a ransom for ALLLLLL, to be testified in due time.” 1 Timothy 2:4-6
Calvinism is the doctrinal system that attracts spineless moral cowards who want nothing to do with personal responsibility and accountability to God. They refuse to truly repent, lay down their lives in this sinful world, die to self, and truly follow Jesus. Repent sinner.
“And he is the propitiation (atoning sacrifice) for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of THE WHOLE WORLD.” 1 John 2:2
John Calvin was an absolute heretical fraud and so are all who espouse and are teaching his demonic errors.
One cannot possibly be a Bible believer and a calvinist.
The first point, total depravity, as defined by Calvinism, says that man is so depraved that he has no ability to do what God tells him to do, repent. Some who see this evil teaching for what it is define it as total inability. According to calvinists, God commands men to do something He doesn’t allow them the ability to do – “repent.” For example “God … commandeth all men every where to repent.” (Acts 17:30)
IF YOU HAVE SEEN CALVINISM, YOU HAVE SEEN SATAN HIMSELF.
IF YOU HAVE HEARD THAT ONE WHO TEACHES CALVINISM, REFORMED THEOLOGY, AND ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED, YOU HAVE SEE AN “UNGODLY” MAN, A WOLF (JUDE 3-4).
“I was listening to a Q&A with RC Sproul a couple years ago. The question was asked “If I have 2 kids and one has been predestined for heaven and the other predestined for hell … How do I deal with this” Sproul said that God’s grace would be demonstrated on the one. And he being a just Judge will judge the other kid sending him to judgement. That answer made me sick to my stomach to the point where I almost felt like throwing up. It left a feeling of disgust in my soul that lasted for a few days. Have never listened to him again.” MM
Calvinistic thinking is completely self-centered just like the author of Calvinism himself – Satan (see Isaiah 14:12-15; Genesis 2:17; 3:4, etc.). Have you noticed that you have never met a Calvinist who doesn’t believe that he (of course) is one of those special, “elect” persons whom God chose to be His while supposedly preordaining the remainder of His population to go to eternal damnation? How convenient.
—— AUGUSTINE WAS A CATHOLIC.
JOHN CALVIN REPEATEDLY ADMITTED TO GETTING HIS DOCTRINE FROM THIS PAGAN DEVIL.
ALL OF CALVINISM IS BASED ON A COMPLETELY FALSE PREMISE….. IT SUPPOSES THAT ANOTHER THING OR DOCTRINE OR SET OF BELIEFS IS NEEDED – TULIP – WHICH DENIES THAT SCRIPTURE IS THE FINAL AUTHORITY AND THE ONLY DOCTRINE NEEDED FOR THE BORN AGAIN SAINT (2 PETER 1:3-4; 20-21; 2 TIMOTHY 3:16-17, ETC.). In other words, the doctrines of calvinism displace, replace the Bible as final divine authority. THAT my friends is a cult. CALVINISM CALLS GOD A LIAR. CALVINISTS SAY THAT GOD DID NOT GIVE US SUFFICIENT TRUTH IN HIS WORD – THAT ANOTHER EXTRA-BIBLICAL “SOURCE” OR SYSTEM IS NEEDED. SO THE BASIS OF CALVINISM IS THAT THE BIBLE IS NOT ENOUGH – THAT ANOTHER MERE SINFUL MAN OR MEN (IN THIS CASE A CONSUMMATE MURDERER) WERE AND ARE NEEDED TO DETERMINE TRUTH.
“Those in the Reformed / Calvinist movement believe God ordains everything including man’s sins; which would make God a sinner himself; which is a lie from Satan himself. God is Holy and separate from sinners! Calvinism is a man made doctrine to boost man’s ego and pride which God says is an abomination. Jesus gave repentance to all of Israel but they willingly rejected Him. Jesus did not say Israel could not come to him, he said he wanted them to come to Him but they would not come to him. Calvinism is a cult.” Brian White
Oh and guess what? ONLY those who buy into this package are the Calvinists. No non-elect Calvinist will ever be heard teaching this absurd demonology. In other words all those who believe this just so happen to be the special “elect.” Go figure!!!!
“Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.” 1 Peter 1:2
Have you ever studied the “foreknowledge of God”? Foreknowledge – knowing beforehand – in no way means God robbed individuals of their free will which He gave them to begin with. “Foreknowledge” simply means God knows all things past, present, and future. He knows the decisions people are going to make and yet He “cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man.” (James 1:13)
Calvinism is demonic as well as those who espouse this evil system of hatred and futility (1 Timothy 4:1). None of those Romans verses they misuse mean or say that God tampered with the free will HE gave men… as if He foreordained that some go to hell as well as forcing His “elect” into His kingdom against their own free will. Calvinists read into the text. They are indoctrinated from small children with this diabolical system.
“Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man: 14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed. 15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.” James 1:13-15
“But if the word of God foretells that some angels and men shall be certainly punished, it did so because it foreknew that they would be unchangeably [wicked], but not because God had created them so.” Justin Martyr- c. 100/114AD – c. 162/168 AD.
Individual human beings are only “elect” in the sense that they elect to serve God on His terms. His foreknowledge does not in any way mean that He tampers with man’s will or makes the choice for him. God in His Word assures us that He “cannot be tempted with evil.” – “Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man.” (James 1:13)
So God told us that He is “NOT willing that ANY should perish” and yet you say He sadistically preordained some for hell? The Bible says that God is “not willing that ANY should perish, but that ALL should come to repentance.” (2 Peter 3:9)
God sovereignly chose to give man the choice … and His will is that all would be saved: “Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.” (1 Timothy 2:4)
“CALVINISM IS A THREAT. ULTIMATELY, THIS FALSE THEOLOGY WOULD HAVE YOU BELIEVE THAT GOD IS A GOD WHO IS PLAYING CHESS WITH HIMSELF, DECIDING WHO HE LOVES BEST OUT OF ALL HIS EQUALLY SINFUL CHESS PIECES, LIKE A KID PLAYING FAVORITES.
WHAT DO YOU THINK MAKES YOU SO SPECIAL OVER THE REST OF GOD’S EQUALLY SINFUL CHILDREN? HOW ABOUT A DESIRE TO GET TO KNOW HIM OF YOUR OWN FREE WILL? THERE MUST BE A DIFFERENTIATING FACTOR. A JUST GOD CANNOT REMAIN JUST BY CHOOSING WHO HE WILL SAVE FROM A MOB OF EQUALLY SINFUL CHILDREN. THEY SHOULD EITHER ALL BURN OR ALL GO TO HEAVEN, RIGHT? AFTER ALL, ALL MEN ARE EQUALLY SINFUL IN HIS HOLY EYES. FURTHERMORE, WHAT LOVE IS THERE IN A GOD WHO SAVES SOME CHILDREN FOR NO SPECIAL REASON, KNOWING IN ADVANCE THAT HE WOULD SEND THE REST TO HELL? YET, SOMEHOW HE LOVES US?
THE TRUTH IS, THAT GOD HAS TO HAVE A REASON FOR CHOOSING YOU TO BE SAVED. THERE MUST BE SOMETHING THAT SETS YOU APART FROM ALL THE OTHER EQUALLY SINFUL CHILDREN. THAT WOULD BE YOUR FREE WILL AND DECISION TO RESPOND TO HIS DRAWING, REPENT, PUT YOUR FAITH IN CHRIST, AND FOLLOW HIM.” MARION MILLS
“Choose you this day whom ye will serve.” Joshua 24:15
Think how delusional it is to claim that a just God is going to punish people who had no choice in committing the sin that sent them to hell. That’s a “another Jesus”, a demon. Anyone teaching such is a wolf (2 Corinthians 11:2-5).
If the LORD warned us: “Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.” (Galatians 6:7-8) How is it then that man has no choice, no ability to exercise his own God-given personal will to sow good or bad seed, to make decisions?
Simple question: How, why would a just God punish those who CHOSE to do evil if they had no choice, free will in the matter? He wouldn’t. To claim such is to say God is not just. “God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man.” (James 1:13)
This following passage ends the calvinistic delusion for all honest Bible students:
“Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man: 14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed. 15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.” James 1:13-15
Calvinism blasphemously makes God out to be an accessory to and agent of evil.
On the difference between Calvinism and truly following Jesus, Bruce Pepper writes:
“I started studying Calvinism in order to refute him. In the first paragraph of one of his books, it said God predestined the fall of man for His own perverse pleasure. I read all I needed to know to notice that this man was with the devil and not a Christian. And Calvin was also a murderer. There are many people who follow Jesus the way THEY think best, which is not following Jesus at all. They’ll all be in hell. There’s one way to follow Jesus and that’s HIS way – the way He prescribes in His Word. The narrow way is the way that only a few there be that find it. Being a true Christian is being a follower of Christ and therefore following Him by laying down one’s life for Christ. All the wants, desires, hopes, and aspiration of the true disciple of Jesus is in Christ alone. The authentic follower of the Son of God, follows only the Holy Scriptures in such a way, that Christ Himself, and His ministry still walk the earth in a man. Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today and forever. The dead are still raised, the blind see and I still see the deaf ears made to hear.”
It should be noted that in this deformed system of theology all five of its points are interrelated. In other words, if one of the points are wrong, they are all wrong and any true Bible believer knows they are all dead wrong.
— Calvinism is a false system of theology through which men think they see God ….. it completely misleads the individual who is too lazy to study God’s Word for himself as the Word commands us to do (Acts 17:11; 2 Timothy 2:15). It’s a diabolically crafted grid or prism though which deceived people see “God” when in fact it’s not the LORD at all. Calvinism is a doctrine of devils which is bought into by those who refuse to die to self as Jesus said one must do to be saved (Luke 9:23-24; 1 Timothy 4:1-3). Calvinism teaches them that they have no free will and so, in delusionally believing they are the elect, the special chosen, in this theology, they vainly believe they are not personally responsible for any sin or for not living for Christ, etc. Utter nonsense.
Those who authentically honor God do so by honoring His Word and denouncing all religious affiliations and affinities, hating them compared to their burning love for Christ (Matt. 7:6-9; Lk. 14:26-27). These are the few that He is going to save (Lk. 12:32; 21:19; 1 Pet. 4:18).
***Bryan Davis writes: “The god of Calvinism is the most cruel, hateful being imaginable. He guarantees that people will sin, punishes them eternally for doing so, and forces a select few to become his followers, though he doesn’t provide them with enough grace to escape sin, yet just enough to appear righteous on the surface, making them models of hypocrisy and therefore the laughingstock of the world.”
The doctrines of Calvinism and OSAS (once saved always saved) were the exact message of the false prophets of Israel and are the message of the grace-perverting wolves of today.
SATAN said “Ye shall NOT surely die” (Gen. 3:4) which is a direct contradiction of what God had just told the man and woman – “Thou shalt surely die” if they sinned against Him (Gen. 2:17). THIS is the same exact message of “once saved always saved” or the diabolical doctrines of Calvinism. This same devil has used “ungodly men,” false teachers throughout history to teach this lie.
“…ye shall NOT surely die…” Genesis 3:4 ~Satan. Satan added “not.” Compare Genesis 2:17 and 3:4 for a blockbuster revelation. In other words, you can sin against God and you will not lose your place with God, even though He’s “Holy, holy, holy.” (Isaiah 6:3; Revelation 4:8)
“…we are delivered to do all these abominations?” Jeremiah 7:10 ~false prophets.
In other words, we have our “saved” badge and are not accountable or responsible for how we live. Jesus covers all our sins no matter what! We are going to Heaven and don’t want to be bothered with the details of truly repenting and making Jesus the literal LORD and Master of our daily lives (Lk. 9:23-24; 14:33; 19:27).
“…ye shall have peace, no evil shall come upon you.” Jeremiah 23:17 ~false prophets. The false leaders of Jeremiah’s day were telling Israel that they were eternally secure in their sins, ushering them into the bowels of hell while they vainly thought they were secure in their lukewarmness and sin. They were abusing and perverting the grace of God (Jude 3-4; Titus 2:11-14; Rev. 3:15-16).
“…where is the God of judgment?” Malachi 2:17 ~false prophets. God hasn’t judged us for our sins and so He won’t in the end.
“The evil (our sins) shall not overtake nor prevent us (from entering Heaven).” Amos 9:10 ~false prophets. Our sins won’t prevent or hold us back from receiving the blessings of Heaven. We believe we are once saved always saved like our leaders have told us.
Satan has not changed (Eccl. 1:9; 1 Cor. 10:13), and neither has God (Mal. 3:6; Heb. 13:8; James 1:17). No unholy person, regardless of his past relationship with God, will enter eternal glory but rather will be cast into the lake of fire for all eternity (Ezek. 33:12-13; Heb. 12:14; Rev. 21:8, 27; 22:11; etc.).
The Bible tells us that those who teach these things are “ungodly men” no matter what they pose as. These are the very wolves in sheep’s clothing Christ warned us about (Matt. 7:15).
“Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints. 4For there ARE certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, UNGODLY MEN, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.” Jude 3-4
“THE EVIL SHALL NOT OVERTAKE NOR PREVENT US” (AMOS 9:10) … This is the Evil Attitude of Some Who Claim to Know Christ….
“All the sinners of my people shall die by the sword (judgment), which say, The evil (judgment for our sins) shall not overtake nor prevent us.” Amos 9:10 …..
Note here in this very important verse that the LORD points out an inner attitude among His very own people (of all generations) that has and is leading to their undoing and ultimately the eternal damnation of many. Should we hearken to this warning and learn from history? It is incumbent upon us that we understand and carefully and conscientiously heed this warning before it is too late.
This simply means and identifies the attitude that “our sin will not prevent us from entering God’s eternal kingdom.”
“The evil (our sins) shall not overtake nor prevent us (from entering Heaven).” Amos 9:10 (message of the false prophets of all generations)
Of the cult of Calvinism, Michael Bonacquisti writes:
“Calvinism is a gross heresy and a gross misinterpretation of Scripture…it is a great lie! In reality, John Calvin was a serial murderer, who was counting on his Roman Catholic infant baptism for his salvation. He never had a born again experience. He died unrepentant, not one of the Elect……John Calvin basically hijacked Augustine’s theology and claimed it as his own…..”
CALVINISM: Theology of the godless, spineless moral coward who sits around doing nothing while the world goes to hell in a hand basket. Why? It’s simple: In the delusional mind of the Calvinist, all of Christ’s commands to evangelize the lost are null and void because after all, only the predetermined, “elect” can be saved and even they have no say so in that matter. So, to the maniacal mind of the Calvinist, to obey Jesus’ command to go and preach the Gospel to others would be a waste of time.
Calvinism is not only not “biblical Christianity”, it is a gross attack on the original Gospel of Jesus and the character of a loving and just God. The origins of the cult of calvinism are disturbing to put it lightly. Its roots are cursed. It is “another gospel” and so all who espouse and promulgate it are “accursed.” (Galatians 1:6-9). | Calvinism’s Origins and Historical Roots [podcast]
Moral cowardice sums up the average Calvinist. People who buy this package of lies (Calvinism) only do so because they want no personal responsibility in the way they conduct their personal, daily lives …. they are enemies of the cross of Christ as Paul put it (Philippians 3:18-19) They love this sinful world and the love of the Father is not in them (1 John 2:15) … think about it … if they have no free will, they are not personally responsible for any of their sins …. it’s all His fault because He pre-ordained them to live in sin…. but the Bible says “Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man: 14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed. 15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.” (James 1:13-15)
“Sovereign grace” is the term used by calvinists who hide behind the lie that they have nothing to do with their relationship with God but were rather roped into it before the foundation of the world. In the demented theology of calvinism, God chose only a select few to be His His “elect” whether they like it or not and so they are forced to remain “stuck” with the LORD for all eternity. Oh, and in the diabolical doctrines of calvinism all those who aren’t the special “elect” were elected by “God” to be damned – before they had the opportunity to choose or reject Him for themselves. Now that is a doctrine of devils among many other diabolical heresies espoused by calvinists. The false doctrines of calvinism clearly reveal that their author is not a loving and just God but rather Satan himself.
In Satan’s masterpiece of DE-formed theology (Calvinism), there is the “U” of the terrible TULIP. The “U” stands for “unconditional election” where God is said to have pre-selected certain people to go to Heaven and certain to suffer eternally in hell. This is in the face of the fact that Jesus told us that He was going to “draw ALL men” to Himself when He went to that cross (John 12:32). Christ’s apostle John later told us that Jesus Christ “is the propitiation (atoning sacrifice) for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of THE WHOLE WORLD.” (1 John 2:2)
Jesus died for “the WHOLE world” – that’s everyone. So, yet you say God sent His Son to pay the price for “the WHOLE world” and yet He simultaneously ordained – before they even lived – for some to be damned??? That is a demon, not the God of the Bible.
No Free Will?
So God told His very own people to “CHOOSE you this day whom ye will serve” and yet they can’t choose? (Joshua 24:15) In other words you are saying they have no free will to choose? So, God is a lunatic for telling His own people to make a choice they couldn’t make?
So God told mankind to “CHOOSE life” and yet mankind has no free will to “choose”?
“I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore CHOOSE life, that both thou and thy seed may live:” Deuteronomy 30:19
— CALVINISM DEBUNKED! BUSTED! JOHN CALVIN was a murderous heretic who got his theology from a catholic (Augustine). ISM is just another extra biblical system of theology that contradicts Holy Scripture …. a completely false system of belief… “another gospel.”(Galatians 1:6-9)
When He foretold dying for the sins of mankind, WHO, HOW MANY did the Son of God tell us He was going to “draw” in order to save?
“And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw ALL men unto me.” John 12:32
WHY would Jesus say He was going to “draw ALL MEN” if it weren’t His intent to save “ALL MEN”?
“Jesus Christ the righteous … 2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of THE WHOLE world.” 1 John 2:1-2
ALL of Calvinism is straight from hell. 2 Sam. 12:23 clearly proves that all babies go to Heaven! When David and Bathsheba’s baby died, here’s what we read in 2 Samuel 12:23: “But now he is dead, wherefore should I fast? can I bring him back again? I shall go to him, but he shall not return to me.” David, a man of God, the very king of Israel told us here that he was going to go be with his now deceased infant son when he died and we know that is Heaven for the righteous.
Now, do you see yet one more of the many reasons why it’s clear that Satan himself is the author of this evil system of theology? Throughout the centuries, Satan has taken from the ranks of the true body of Christ, men who refused to obey God’s Word and were therefore easy prey for this delusional system of theology called Calvinism. You will never see a Calvinist who is a soul winner for this reason expressed above. They could care less. The Calvinist is smug and arrogant and self-righteous based on believing he is the special, chosen, “elect,” a special breed. He believes that God has respect of persons when His Word clearly states that “There is NO respect of persons with God.” (Romans 2:11) Actually, to obey Christ’s command to evangelize the world around us would contradict what the Calvinist’s theology teaches because no one can be saved or will be saved if God hasn’t somehow predetermined him to be. But the LORD’s apostle Paul told us that it was through “the foolishness of preaching” that God will “save them that believe.” And belief is clearly a choice God gives to every man (John 1:12; Deuteronomy 30:19; Joshua 24:15, etc.).
“For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.” 1 Corinthians 1:21
Can we now see how that the Calvinism sees the preaching of the cross as “foolishness”:
“For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.” 1 Corinthians 1:18
Being that in his distorted mindset, he has no reason to evangelize, the Calvinist dupe simply becomes the little moral coward who is simply a good church member, obeying his cult leaders like a good little patsy and making no waves with the public like Christ and His apostle did. The Calvinist is a moral coward who likes this little ease of life and hideout because it brings no suffering or persecution or reason to die to self and lose his life in this sinful world.
— THE PERSON WHO DENIES CHRIST FOR CALVIN AND HIS CAUSTIC COHORTS, HERALDS HIS SO-CALLED “CLASSIC” DEFORMED THEOLOGIANS’ WRITINGS IN BRAZEN, OPEN, AND UTTER DENIAL OF THE ONLY CLASSIC, ONLY DIVINELY AUTHORITATIVE WRITINGS – THE HOLY SCRIPTURES! THE BIBLE ITSELF IS THE ONLY SOURCE OF TRUTH FOR ALL TRUE CHRISTIANS. THE CALVINIST TRUSTS IN MERE SINFUL MEN LIKE JOHN CALVIN AND A MYRIAD OF OTHER FALSE TEACHERS WHOSE WORKS THEY READ IN LIEU OF READING AND HEEDING GOD’S WORD.
Calvin’s Cowards
The Calvinist selectively decides, against Scripture, what “sovereignty” really looks like or means. Like a bunch of little whining pansies, if you touch the evil falsehoods of deformed theology, the dupes come out in droves to defend their “right” to have no personal responsibility. They are moral cowards who hide behind the thin, temporal veneer of this unscriptural theology of sinful men and Satan himself. It’s a doctrine of devils (1 Tim. 4:1-3). You see, that’s what this evil system of theology does – it says that God does EVERYTHING “sovereignly” and so man can do nothing and therefore is not accountable. That’s exactly what Satan told the first man and woman – “Ye shall NOT surely die” if you disobey God (Gen. 2:17; 3:4). The enemy of souls promised the first man and woman that God would not judge them if they disobeyed Him (which was a choice). But God kept His Word and kicked them out of His holy presence – they were “cut off” and had to be restored by blood and their own repentance. You are fooling no one except yourself. “They that observe lying vanities (such as Calvinism) forsake their own mercies.” (Jonah 2:8)
***John Piper, John MacArthur, Chuck Swindoll, Charles Stanley, and other Calvinist wolves are real crafty deceivers who are deceiving millions of people who refuse to know God themselves. Heresies serve a divine purpose – to separate those who truly love God and those who love self and cloak themselves with this no-personal-responsibility system of delusional theology (1 Corinthians 11:19). The tares are satisfied to follow mere sinful men and will pay eternally for refusing to be “valiant for the truth” and thereby rejecting Christ (Jeremiah 9:3; 2 Thessalonians 2:9-12). In fact, because they do not choose to fear God and love His holy truth that He gave in His Word, God Himself has helped them along by sending them “STRONG delusion.” He has done this so that they will believe the lies and ultimately be damned. God takes it personal when people don’t seek out, embrace, believe and live by HIS Word. This is all part of the great falling away we see in 2 Thessalonians 2. See 2 Thessalonians 2:9-12.
***Deformed Theology Dupes: Calvin idolaters will be crying out on their deathbed “oh John, Mr. Calvin, please save me! help John, help!”
Their cries will go unanswered because John Calvin is not only a mere sinful man, he died an unrepentant murderer of more than 60 people and as a false teacher, a heretic.
You could attack Jesus Christ Himself and they wouldn’t dare think of defending the Son of God the way they run ever so swiftly to defend their beloved evil and murderous master, a dead heretic, John Calvin. Astounding! Delusional! Idolatrous! Adulterous! Hell bound!
One writer notes:
“It is common knowledge Calvin was personally responsible for killing scores of professed Christians who disagreed with him about doctrine. Usually about infant baptism, the trinity and transubstantiation. That doesn’t include the untold numbers tortured, imprisoned and those who had all property confiscated. Google Calvin, inquisition and you will see many references. Servetus was an interesting case because Calvin promised if Servetus ever stepped foot in Geneva he would have him killed. He later tried to say the reason he was killed was due to a civil matter instead of a religious matter. What a guy!” Alex Greystone
****Calvinism is a cult no different than Mormonism and here’s one proof: In calvinism, the Holy Bible is demoted. As far as authority goes, Calvinists place God’s Word under the extra-biblical writings of mere sinful men (Calvin and all reformed theologians and pastors and writings). Like the false leaders of Christ’s day, to Mormons and Calvinists, God’s Word is not truly final authority (Mark 7:6-9; John 8:47). For the Mormons it’s the Book of Mormon that is highest authority and for the Calvinists it’s John Calvin’s and all other reformed theology writings that are finally authority. The false teachings of reformed theology/Calvinism are clearly “another gospel” and those perpetrating this system of profound heresy are “accursed.” (2 Corinthians 11:2-5; Galatians 1:6-9)
There is NO doubt that any person teaching OSAS (once saved always saved) and the doctrines of Calvinism has a “seducing spirit” behind this “doctrine of devils.” (1 Tim. 4:1) How is this certain? – Satan is the author of this lie which guarantees that any person teaching it is under the influence of a devil (2:17; Gen. 3:4).
One of the marks of a cult (like Calvinism) is that they place the writings of mere men on the same level or above the authority of Holy Scripture. The fact that the Calvinists put John Calvin and those who bought and propagate his myths on the same level or above the words of Scripture, clearly reveals Calvinism to be a cult. It doesn’t matter if in their blindness they see this or not, it’s still the truth. John Calvin was a murderer and a brazen heretic and to place him or any other mere sinful man on the same level of authority as the Holy Spirit inspired Scriptures is a spiritual death knell.
***John Calvin’s Reign of Terror:
- He had Servetus burned at the stake on October 27, 1553,
- Gentile beheaded in 1566,
- 34 women burned at the stake after accusing them of being witches who caused a plague that had swept through Geneva in 1545,
- “Freckles” Dunant dies under torture in February 1545 without admitting to the crime of spreading the plague,
- Several men and women are apprehended including a barber and a hospital supervisor who had “made a pact with the devil” in 1545,
- 2 women executed by burning at the stake for sorcery by spreading the plague in March 7, 1545,
- Belot (an Anabaptist) chained and tortured – against infant baptism in 1545,
- 7 men executed concerning the plague outbreak in May 16, 1545,
- a child was whipped publicly for calling his mother a thief,
- a girl who struck her parents was beheaded,
- Jacques Gruet accused of writing a poster against Calvin, was arrested, tortured, then executed in July 1546,
- and the list goes on, his victims ranging in age from 16-80.
If John Calvin was Elect, then so was Hitler! 58 murders is as good as 6 million.
If you are following the teachings of Calvinism, you are following a dead, murderous heretic who was a mere sinful man. John Calvin followed the false teachings of a deranged, pagan Catholic (Augustine). You are not following Christ whatsoever if you are a Calvinist. You cannot follow Christ outside of believing and obeying “the doctrine of Christ” given in the Holy Scriptures (2 John 7-10).
The Catholic Roots of Calvinism
***CALVINISM/DEFORMED THEOLOGY IS CATHOLIC: In the 1536 edition of the Institutes of the Christian Religion, Calvin quotes Roman Catholic monk Augustine 24 times. By the 1559 edition, he quotes Augustine 400 times. Here’s just a snapshot:
•68 citations about the sacraments
•54 citations about the church
•34 citations about God’s will
•34 citations about sin
•28 citations about grace
•17 citations about predestination
One writer commented: “What the Reformers and Calvin espoused was religion, not a personal relationship with Christ. They left Catholicism but took much of it with them when they went. They established another arm of it just as the “Mormon Fundamentalists” did with “Mormonism.” They were basically a break off group of Catholics forming another branch of Catholicism.” Gwendolyn W.
The SOLE identity of His true remnant disciples is Himself – Jesus Christ, the crucified and risen Savior and soon coming LORD who revealed His heart and will in His Word.
We are to be identified only with Christ and His body who gain their knowledge of God only from His written Word as taught by His Holy Spirit. We, Christ’s blood bought disciples are not even arminians … even though their doctrine is straight. We must be those who declare Christ, identity only with Him and His true followers and never move the glory from being pointed only and directly at JESUS!!!!! Col. 2
“Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: ye cannot be partakers of the Lord’s table, and of the table of devils.“ (1 Corinthians 10:21) … calvinism is completely false … all 5 points and there are evil spirits/devils behind this doctrine of devils 1 Tim. 4:1-3; 1 Cor 10:19-21
Divine foreknowledge is never mentioned by calvinist. In fact, in speaking with scores of them over the years, I never met one who is even aware of this Bible word and doctrinal truth – foreknowledge. God foreknows who will and who will not choose to serve Him and yet that in no way means He tampers with with anyone will. He sent Jesus so “ALL men” would be saved and that’s His clearly and repeatedly stated desire (1 Tim. 2:4; 2 Peter 3:9; 1 John 2:2; John 12:32, etc.).
Those who authentically honor God do so by honoring His Word and denouncing all religious affiliations and affinities, hating them compared to their burning love for Christ (Matt. 7:6-9; Lk. 14:26-27). These are the few that He is going to save (Lk. 12:32; 21:19; 1 Pet. 4:18).
“If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple. 27 And whosoever doth not bear his cross, and come after me, cannot be my disciple.” Luke 14:26-27
It’s undiluted idolatry to give credence to the words of a mere man and to follow his twisted line through Scripture, denying the only final authority Teacher, the Holy Spirit (John 14:26; 16:13; 1 John 2:20, 27). Spiritual adultery occurs when we alienate the affections of our hearts away from our “FIRST love” and onto ANY other person or system of theology (Revelation 2:4-5). Father, please forgive us for our sins and quicken us by Thy holy fear in repentance!
Calvinism is not the Gospel of Jesus. You are lying against the LORD to say such. You have done exactly what the Pharisees did. You have mixed and replaced God’s pure Word with a whole system of theology that is an extra-biblical system that repeatedly contradicts known biblical truth. God is calling you to repent friend before it’s too late. Mark 7:6-9.
Calvinism is not a part of the original Gospel or the apostolic Christian faith whatsoever. The very fact that Calvinists make statements like that is proof of the brainwashing they have undergone. Such a statement is fully unfounded. Those who follow this false gospel are “accursed.” (Galatians 1:6-9; Jude 3-4)
Reformed theology is a system of theology removed from Holy Scripture which the Calvinist has obviously been steeped in without getting into God’s Word for himself but rather following the line of reasoning placed, forced, or imposed upon Scripture by the wolves who have schooled them in this evil system of theology. No one in history has ever just studied the pure Word of God, been taught by the Holy Spirit, and come away with even one of the 5 points of Calvinism. It’s a system that has to be taught to others by men and devils, just like any other antichrist cult.
It’s willing ignorance in most cases. Moral cowards who want no personal responsibility gladly buy into such a fairy tale system of lies. Also, have you ever noticed the false, demonic smile on the countenance on consummate Calvinists? After all, they have much to be proud of right…they are “God’s elect” right? What a joke! God says He hates this arrogance! Proverbs 8:13
The Calvinist is ex-ing Jesus and His holy original apostles out of his false theology … Where did they go around teaching what later became crafted, contrived, and sold as “the doctrines of grace” “reformed theology” or “the 5 points of Calvinism”???? Chapters and verses please. You are simply not following the LORD but rather the doctrines of sinful men and God is calling you to repent and truly get saved. When you do, you will bring forth the fruit of repentance which will begin with trashing this fairy tale theology you have bought into.
The moral coward – the one who refuses to die to self – will fight to the death to defend his sense of false security which he vainly imagines grants him license to live as he so chooses with no eternal consequence. This is the exact lie Satan told Eve in the Garden (Gen. 2:17; 3:4). The sinner who wants to think he is unconditionally eternally secure hides behind this diabolical lie. It is a myth, a farce, and a fairytale to believe one can get genuinely born again and then keep on or fall back into sin and still be saved (Lk. 8:13). One is self-deceived if he thinks he can keep on sinning and is still saved. OSAS inevitably gives the gullible the notion that there is no reason or responsibility to repent and confess and cease his sin (Prov. 28:13; 1 Jn. 1:7-10; 2 Cor. 7:1, etc.). Jesus is coming – ready or not. He’s coming for a Bride that is without spot or blemish …. Eph. 5:25-27
“For IF (that means it’s possible) after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them. ” 2 Peter 2:20-21
If a person does not truly desire, seek after, and embrace the truth of Holy Writ, God will gladly send him a “strong delusion” so that he will believe a lie and be damned (going to hell). See 2 Thess. 2:10-12.
Have you ever read and circled the 5 “I’”‘s of Lucifer? (Isaiah 12:12-14) He wanted to reign as his own god just like those who don’t want to humble themselves in true repentance and let Jesus Christ truly be LORD over their lives. “Ye are DEAD and your life is hid with Christ in God.” (Col. 3:3) It’s time to die the death – to deny self, take up the cross (implement of death to self) and follow Christ (Lk. 9:23-24). Otherwise, we are not following Him and are on our way to eternal damnation.
After telling some eternal securist that they should immediately repent and cease teaching their diabolical lies, they said I was bringing division. But the truth is designed to and always divides the wheat from the tares. They have chosen to retain lies and are heretics according to Holy Scripture (Tit. 3:9-10). I told them they were preaching something that 1) the Bible never teaches, and 2) that the Bible repeatedly refutes. Jesus preached to many men but all left except 12 (John 6:60-67). The many who departed were divided because they were self-serving, Savior-rejecting, moral cowards who refused to simply listen and obey Jesus. The 12 were the remnant. John 6:66 says “From that time MANY of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him.” This clearly tells us that “disciples” or those who follow Christ, can go “back” (backslide) and no longer follow Christ. See 1 Pet. 4:18)
After reading passages like Colossians 3:5-6, which was written to God’s very people, what could possibly be clearer than that those who were once saved and who now live in sin are under God’s wrath and not His grace?
“Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry: 6For which things’ sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience:” Colossians 3:5-6
If being “CUT OFF” after knowing the LORD were not possible, why do we find this term and warning when the Holy Spirit is warning NT believers about going back into sin?
Romans 11:22 says: “Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, IFFFFFFFFFF thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be CUT OFF.”
God is love and is good towards those who are His and continue to be willing and obedient to Him (Isa. 1:19-20). The LORD is severe in His holy wrath to those who like the Jews, once knew Him and then went back into sin. This is the context of this warning and several other warnings to NT believers. God will severely/harshly and eternally judge those who fall away after knowing Him. He will cut them off from His holy kingdom in His severe condemnation upon sin that Jesus came and died for to eliminate from those who would be His. Need more examples? Read Jude 3-12 and 1 Corinthians 9:27-10:12.
In Holy Scripture, saving faith in the blood of Christ is not conveyed as a one-time, fix all. Though saved on the spot upon believing (John 6:47), that Savior told us that those who believe and are saved, can “fall away” if they cease believing/abiding in Him (Luke 8:12-13; John 15:1-6).
If perseverance is automatic then man has no free will. Calvin’s doctrine of the perseverance of the saints is a fairy tale. Why bother with this diabolical heretic? Why learn his foolish system of theology instead of simply learning God’s Word which teaches no such thing.
Justin Martyr- c. 100/114AD – c. 162/168 AD. He was another early Christian apologist (defender) of the faith and was martyred by beheading. His works represent the earliest surviving Christian apologies of notable size:
- Man acts by his own free will and not by fate. (20)
- We have learned from the prophets, and we hold it to be true, that punishments, chastisements, and rewards are rendered according to the merit of each man’s actions. Otherwise, if all things happen by fate, then nothing is in our own power. For if it be predestined that one man be good and another man evil, then the first is not deserving of praise or the other to be blamed. Unless humans have the power of avoiding evil and choosing good by free choice, they are not accountable for their actions-whatever they may be…. For neither would a man be worthy of reward or praise if he did not of himself choose the good, but was merely created for that end. Likewise, if a man were evil, he would not deserve punishment, since he was not evil of himself, being unable to do anything else than what he was made for.(21)
- But that you may not have a pretext for saying that Christ must have been crucified, and that those who transgressed must have been among your nation, and that the matter could not have been otherwise, I said briefly by anticipation, that God, wishing men and angels to follow His will, resolved to create them free to do righteousness; possessing reason, that they may know by whom they are created, and through whom they, not existing formerly, do now exist; and with a law that they should be judged by Him, if they do anything contrary to right reason: and of ourselves we, men and angels, shall be convicted of having acted sinfully, unless we repent beforehand. But if the word of God foretells that some angels and men shall be certainly punished, it did so because it foreknew that they would be unchangeably [wicked], but not because God had created them so.
Of those truly saved, perseverance is not automatic but rather a daily choice. If along the way, the born again believer denies Christ, He will be denied by Christ.
“If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: IF WE DENY HIM, HE ALSO WILL DENY US.” 2 Timothy 2:12
No person in history who has been saved and then honestly began to study Holy Scripture has ever come out with the conclusions of Calvinism. It’s simply not there. The mind has to be led, conditioned, seduced, and made to believe such things as the terribly twisted TULIP of John Calvin teaches. To believe such things is to defy the LORD who bled for “ALL men,” gave us choice, and is “holy, holy, holy.” (Isa. 6:3; 1 Tim. 2:4; 2 Pet. 3:9; 1 Jn. 2:2). Then after one has been conditioned in his thinking to believe Calvin’s falsehoods, he is led to see things through the twisted mindset of Reformed theology and so he then imposes that belief system on Scripture, making God out to be a liar. This whole system teaches men how not to take God at His Word, especially the whole counsel of His Word.
The Calvinist is the moral coward who seeks to console himself while living in sin. He hides behind the teachings of a mere man, a man who was a heretic and a murderer. Sounds like Joseph Smith to me. The Calvinist does this by twisting Scripture to concoct the image of a false god who gives him assurance and security while he lives in rebellion. Now that my friend, is idolatry and spiritual adultery (Exod. 20:3-5; Eph. 5:5-7).
Anyone who believes in the myths perpetrated by reformed theology and “once saved always saved” is not a person of truth. Truth-seekers who fear God diligently search the whole of the Scriptures before drawing conclusion (Prov. 13:18). The do not rely or place the weight of their faith in mere men but instead allow God to “be true and every man a liar.” (Rom. 3:4) Such a teaching as an unconditional eternal security is nowhere to be found in God’s Word. In fact, there are volumes of warnings in God’s Word which negate the possibility of such a cliché being true.
The term “CUT OFF” in Romans 11:22 drives a death nail into the coffin of the diabolical heresy of an UN-conditional eternal security – propagated by the “ungodly men” Jude warned us about (Jude 3-4).
TO HIS OWN PEOPLE THE LORD SAYS: “IF IF IF we suffer, we shall also reign with him: IF WE DENY HIM, HE ALSO WILL DENY US.” 2 Timothy 2:12
The utter idiocy of Calvinism cannot be underestimated. Such evil and foolish logic, twisting of Scripture, and willing ignorance of its duped adherents is mind boggling. There are many examples that could be stated but let’s look at just one illustration from John Wesley of the image of a false god conveyed through the doctrines of Calvinism: “One might say to our adversary, the devil, ‘Thou fool, why dost thou roar about any longer? Thy lying in wait for souls is as needless and useless as our preaching. Hearest thou not, that God hath taken thy work out of thy hands; and that he doeth it much more effectually? Thou, with all thy principalities and powers, canst only so assault that we may resist thee; but He can irresistibly destroy both body and soul in hell! Thou canst only entice; but his unchangeable decrees, to leave thousands of souls in death, compels them to continue in sin, till they drop into everlasting burnings. Thou temptest; He forceth us to be damned; for we cannot resist his will. Thou fool, why goest thou about any longer, seeking whom thou mayest devour? Hearest thou not that God is the devouring lion, the destroyer of souls, the murderer of men” Moloch caused only children to pass though the fire: and that fire was soon quenched; or, the corruptible body being consumed, its torment was at an end; but God, thou are told, by his eternal decree, fixed before they had done good or evil, causes, not only children of a span long, but the parents also, to pass through the fire of hell, the ‘fire which never shall be quenched; and the body which is cast thereinto, being now incorruptible and immortal, will be ever consuming and never consumed, but ‘the smoke of their torment,’ because it is God’s good pleasure, ‘ascendeth up for ever and ever.’” [From the sermon Free Grace, Preached at Bristol, in the year 1740]
THE DOCTRINES OF CALVINISM TURN “GOD” INTO THE DEVIL. VIOLATING THE THIRD COMMANDMENT BY USING THE VERY NAME OF THE LORD IN VAIN, CALVINISTS ATTRIBUTE TO THE ALMIGHTY THE ATTRIBUTES HE TOLD US ARE OF SATAN HIMSELF. THIS CRUEL, FORCEFUL, CUNNING, BIASED, RESPECTER OF PERSONS, PARTIAL, IMMORAL, FALSE GOD OF CALVINISM IS A DEMON AND NOT GOD AT ALL.
Studying with honest heart the truths of Holy Scripture thoroughly dismantles this evil, mind-twisting, Christ-despising system of theology. Here’s a brief historical sketch of the murderous dealings of this 16th century maniac who is followed by many an idolater today who vainly believe they are saved.
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The “T” of the Terrible Truth-Despising TULIP
The TULIP is the acronym that was crafted to explain the doctrines of Reformed Theology/Calvinism. Each letter stands for one of the five foundational doctrinal beliefs upon which Calvinism stands. Calvinistic adherents believe and espouse these doctrines. All five phony, pathetic points of this unbiblical system of theology are interrelated. This means that each one stands or falls on the validity of the other points. The very first point of the five points of Calvinism is ”Total Depravity” which is defined in Calvinism as the total inability of sinful men to respond in obedience to God when He calls them. In other words, they teach that men cannot obey or do what God told them to do because they have no will. Now, at this point, if you are a sane person, stop laughing and keep reading. 😉 Contrary to the devilish doctrine of “Total Depravity,” man is not so sinful by nature that he cannot make a decision/choose. It’s called inability, where reformed demonology teaches that man cannot obey what God commanded him to do, which is an indictment upon the Almighty. The truth-seeker need go no further than this very first of the five points of Calvinism to see that this whole system of theology is false. Clearly, the false god of Calvinism is not the one true God presented in Holy Scripture.
Free will involves the ability to choose life or death (Deuteronomy 30:19; Joshua 24:16; Romans 6:16, etc.). It seems more than obvious that if the person deceived by the false teachings of Reformed Theology hadn’t been poisoned by Calvinistic teachers, that person would never ask questions concerning whether or not man has free will. It’s obvious and self-evident that man has been given free will. Any small child knows that – it takes a brainwashing to be convinced otherwise. If man had no choice to exercise the will God gave him, then why would the LORD tell man to “choose”? Dare we call God a fool? “I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore CHOOSE life, that both thou and thy seed may live:” (Deuteronomy 30:19)
CALVINISM WARNING: “ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness (license to sin), and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.” Jude 4
The so-called “doctrines of grace” are “turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness” or a license for sinning in the hearts of those who trade the truth for this lie (Jude 3-4). Jude tells us that such must be earnestly contended against and exposed for what it is. When the Calvinist is told that he has nothing – not one iota of involvement – in appropriating and remaining in the salvation of Christ, he loses all fear of God and is inevitably not going to be vigilant, watching for the soon return of Christ, or being holy as Christ is holy. “Lasciviousness” is a sin and is the obvious outcome of the teachings of Calvinism which produce just the opposite of the fear of the LORD and obedience to Christ which is what Scripture teaches.
John Piper: Satanic High Priest of
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WOLF WARNING: Beware of the many teachers of Calvinism/Reformed Theology in this late hour. These are the very wolves the Word of God specifically prophesied would be on the scene in the last hour “turning the grace of God into lasciviousness” with their perverted “doctrines of grace” as they call it (Jude 3-4). Most popular, limelight authors and radio personalities teach this evil system of theology which depicts the image of a false god. For example: John Piper, R.C. Sproul, Charles Swindoll, Paul Washer, James White, Albert Mohler, Kevin DeYoung, Ligon Duncan, Mark Driscoll, J.I. Packer (James Innell Packer), Wayne Grudem, C. J. Mahaney, Matt Chandler, Justin Taylor, John MacArthur, John Calvin, and Alistair Begg, to name but a few.
Wolves in sheep’s clothing like John MacArthur, Vodie Baucham, and Paul Washer, etc. preach repentance and yet these frauds are all calvinists and so they believe that no one can make the free will choice to obey Jesus’ command to repent. To call this convoluted delusionment would be an understatement. Run from these calvinist warlocks! | Calvinism is Heresy
Matt Chandler’s Diabolical Conversion to Calvinism
In the video below, Matt Chandler openly admits to being converted over to all five false points of Calvinism. First off, this is a staged, intentionally created video to sell others on the “virtues” of the diabolical system of lies known as “Calvinism.” In short, it is a sales job and nothing more and it’s not one that is selling people on the Word of truth found on the pages of Holy Scripture but rather it’s an indoctrination of a system of theology that contradicts and twists Holy Scripture to the destruction of those who buy into it (2 Peter 3:16). You will witness firsthand the diabolical workings of John Piper, master Calvinism initiator, high priest of this craft of Calvinism, as he demonstrates his success in sucking yet another younger pastor into the cult of Calvinism. His opening question to Matt Chandler is “How did Calvinism come about?” In other words, “How did you come to believe in the doctrines of Calvin?” Not “How did you come to believe in the doctrines of Holy Scripture?” but rather “How did you come to trust the doctrines of Calvinism?”
Chandler readily admits that “There are texts which I never knew what to do with.” And that’s where the Calvin worship cultists come in to convert people’s minds over using partial truths and mere portions of Scripture to the exclusion of the whole context and full-counsel of God’s Word. For example, they major on Romans 9 while intentionally ignoring Romans 11:20-22 which is part of the same passage.
Matt Chandler is the pastor of The Village Church located in Highland Village, Texas (in the Dallas area). Below is a video of Matt Chandler being interviewed by false teacher John Piper who is a 5-point Calvinist. In this video we see firsthand Matt Chandler’s apostasy into the dark doctrines of Calvinism. Also, see commentary beneath the video. As you view this video, note that there is little mention of Scripture. Instead, Chandler’s “warm blanket” is based on touchy, feely, subjective elements no different than Mormonism and how they determine “truth” by the warm feeling in their bosom. Amazing apostasy! So, Matt Chandler came to believe and espouse Calvinism based on something other than Holy Writ. While he mentions “Romans 9,” he refused to mention another integral part of that same passage, which would be Romans 11:20-22. Romans 11:20-22 clearly reveals something that in and of itself explodes the lies of Calvinism – the fact that covenant people of God were “cut off” from Him and that we can also be “cut off.” It’s no less than a divine threat and promise to all who currently know Him.
CHANDLER AND PIPER, TWO BRAZEN DECEIVERS, CLEARLY WANT THOSE LISTENING TO BUY INTO THEIR CALVINISM, BASED ON THEIR SUBJECTIVE, TOUCHY-FEELY, PERSONAL EXPERIENCES AND NOT ON SCRIPTURE!
It’s obvious from this video interview that John Piper is a high priest of Satan’s Calvinism. It’s clear that John Piper had been coaxing the younger Matt Chandler to buy into this Calvinism package. Matt Chandler makes it clear that he had to be converted over to Calvinism and he was by John Piper.
In the video, Matt says something that many have also stated. Chandler says that coming to a full belief in Calvinism was “a wrestle” to him. In other words, he had to wrestle with believing it. Why? It’s simple – so many truths contradict this system of lies called Calvinism or Reformed Theology. The diligent, Berean Bible student will see right through this deceitful attempt to subvert the truth (Acts 15:24; 17:11; Titus 1:11; 3:11).
Watch Matt Chandler’s mannerisms and how he is acting. He’s clearly just trying to please his elder, Piper.
“Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try (put to the test) the spirits whether they are of God: because MANY false prophets are gone out into the world.” 1 John 4:1
Folks, just because someone can seems convinced or convicted about something, does NOT make that something true. Isn’t it time we begin to obey God’s command to “Believe NOT every spirit” and to “try” which means to test the spirits? That’s what the “noble” disciples at Berea did and God commended them for it. When they heard even the apostle Paul preach, they tested what he said against the written Word.
“These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.” Acts 17:11
In this video, Chandler stumbles over his words. He uses the signature add-ins like “I think” and………. But Matt, who cares what YOU believe or think? What did God say in His Word? Has He not spoken? Yes He sure has – “I have talked to you from heaven.” (Exodus 20:22) Matt Chandler is not simply giving literal Scripture and letting Scripture teach those who would listen to him but rather he wants them to buy into some system of theology because he is now coming out of the closet as having espoused it. In fact, Chandler readily admits to not coming straight out in the open about telling his audience at The Village Church that he is teaching Calvinism. But what is there to hide Matt Chandler? Didn’t God boldly give us His truth, the light of His blessed Word? What darkness is Matt Chandler hiding? What is he afraid of? Is Matt afraid that he will lose church members since there is so much expose’ on the doctrines of John Calvin?
DID YOU NOTE THAT CHANDLER GIVES US THE ALL-TOO-TYPICAL SIGNATURE STATEMENT OF DECEIVED CALVINISTS WHO TEACH THAT THE GOSPEL AND CALVINISM ARE ONE AND THE SAME? CONCERNING CALVINISM, CHANDLER SAYS “IT’S WHAT OUR FAITH IS.” IF SUCH WERE TRUE, THAT WOULD MEAN THAT GOD DIDN’T GET IT RIGHT UNTIL MURDEROUS HERETIC JOHN CALVIN CAME ALONG SOME 16 CENTURIES AFTER JESUS AND HIS HOLY APOSTLES WERE HERE AND GAVE US “THE FAITH ONCE DELIVERED TO THE SAINTS” IN THE NEW TESTAMENT CANON OF SCRIPTURE (JUDE 3-4). SO, THAT WOULD MEAN THAT ALL MEN WERE STILL IN DARKNESS, EVEN AFTER JESUS, THE LIGHT OF THE WORLD CAME. SUCH A CONCLUSION WOULD MEAN THAT GOD DIDN’T GIVE US HIS TRUE GOSPEL THROUGH MATTHEW, MARK, LUKE, JOHN, AND PAUL, BUT RATHER THROUGH JOHN CALVIN WHO DERIVED HIS TEACHINGS THROUGH A DELUSIONAL CATHOLIC PRIEST’S WRITINGS (AUGUSTINE) AND MADE A SYSTEM OF THEOLOGY OUT OF THEM WHICH WE NOW KNOW AS CALVINISM.
Matt Chandler comes out and admits that his people “got over the hump” and now have bought the Calvinism package. What “hump”? The hump of truth is what people have to jump over to believe such things as are taught in Calvinism! In other words, you have to jump over mountains of Bible truth to believe such an evil indictment against our LORD God which is what Calvinism is.
Matt Chandler is very seductive and subversive in his use of Proverbs 14:12. He uses this Bible verse to teach that NOT believing Calvinism is “a way which seemeth right” but will lead to “death.” Wow! Do you now begin to see just how delusional Calvinists are in seeking to marry that system of diabolical lies with the true Gospel? The Bible tells us that those who do not receive “the love of the truth” are turned over to be deceived. The person who buys the Scripture-violating teachings of Calvinism has hated the LORD and His truth and has been sent by Him “strong delusion” so that he would believe this system of lies (2 Thessalonians 2:9-12). Satan himself and damnation are also mentioned in this passage (2 Thessalonians 2:9-12).
It’s obvious that John Piper and Matt Chandler are so very arrogant that they are convinced that their audience should take THEIR word for it and simply buy into Calvinism. After all, they did. But who are Piper and Chandler but mere men, dust, and in their very best state, “altogether vanity.” (Psalms 39:4-5)
“Let God be true and EVERY man a liar.” Romans 3:4
Only a wolf would seek to lead people to believe something based on the idea that they (the wolves) have believed that something. The true servant of Christ simply preaches the pure Word of God and lets the hearer believe upon the LORD Himself by His Word and Holy Spirit.
“Wrestled, wrestled, wrestled, wrestled, just wrestled, once those lenses get put on you, you can’t read your Bible.” But just WHO put those lenses on Chandler if those colored glasses are colored with that which does not align with Holy Scripture? The only answer would be Satan who is the father of all lies .. The Bible teaches us that “seducing spirits (devils) and doctrines of devils“ go hand in hand (1 Timothy 4:1)
…in this video of Matt Chandler’s apostasy into Calvinism, he speak of the “lens” or colored glasses that get put on someone who is seduced by the evil devils that coax their truth-rejecting souls into believing in the “doctrines of devils” such as Calvinism (1 Timothy 4:1-3). Note how he presents this as a conversion over into this whole system of belief known as Calvinism. It’s a demonic conversion for sure.
“Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits (devils), and doctrines of devils; 2Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;” 1 Timothy 4:1-2
Did you know that the devil has “doctrines”? Here in the above passage of Holy Scripture, the apostle Paul reveals the connection between “Seducing spirits” and “doctrines of devils.” What could possibly be clearer than the fact that there are “doctrines of devils” and people are brought into believing them by “seducing spirits” or devils? In this video interview we see Matt Chandler’s declination into the dismal, dark doctrines of John Calvin, a known murderous heretic.
“Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints. 4For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.” Jude 3-4
If you understand Calvinism, you understand that it leads to futility. Why? Because when a person is seduced by devils to believe that he has NOTHING at all to do with participation in being saved, that person then tosses responsibility to the wind, does not fear and obey God. Satan loves this masterpiece he created, beginning in the Garden of creation. Get the book Lie of the Ages to delve into the origins of Calvinism and OSAS (once saved always saved) theology.
NO TRUE BIBLE BELIEVING CHRISTIAN IDENTIFIES HIMSELF AS A “CALVINIST” NOR FOLLOWS ANYTHING BUT THE PURE WORD OF GOD. THIS MEANS HE SEES CALVINISM FOR THE FILTHY, DIABOLICAL SYSTEM OF LIES THAT IT REALLY IS.
What is the difference between those who follow Joseph Smith (delusional founder of Mormonism) and those who follow John Calvin? – Nothing! They are both following the teachings of mere sinful men in lieu of God’s Word and are therefore hell bound antichrists.
Only a demon and a depraved, apostate heart could do such a thing!
“‘Do not say you are of Paul or Apollos.’ (1 Cor. 1) To call ourselves a ‘Calvinist’ is to place Calvin above Christ. ‘Calvinism’ is a cult, whenever we follow a man above Christ we have a cult.” Gwendolyn Wehage
The Calvinist ex-es Jesus and His holy original apostles out of his false theology. At any cost, everything must bow to the so-called “doctrines of grace” and “Five points of Calvinism.” The very Word of God MUST be ignored, spit upon, twisted, defied, and crassly passed over in order to keep the tradition of Calvinism. This is that cultic “spirit of antichrist” working in those who have given themselves over to this system of lies. ….. Where did they go around teaching what later become crafted, contrived, and sold as “the doctrines of grace” “Reformed theology” or “the 5 points of Calvinism”???? Chapters and verses please. You are simply not following the LORD but rather the doctrines of sinful men and God is calling you to repent and truly get saved. When you do, you will bring forth the fruit of repentance which will begin with trashing this fairytale theology you have bought into.
Calvinism does not instill the fear of God in anyone which should be a huge red flag. Without the fear of the LORD, no one can know Jesus and remain in Christ. Also, it’s obvious that Reformed theology actually promotes ease and lukewarmness (Rev. 3:15-16).
Not even one of the five points of Calvinism comes from Scripture. In fact, each one of them is the opposite of what Holy Scripture teaches. Calvinism is a mockery of Christ and His blessed Gospel.
Mormonism and Calvinism are very similar ….. Calvinism is a cult where all of the adherents are taught a whole system of lies. They are taught “reasons” why God didn’t really mean what He said. The whole aim of Calvinism is to twist, corrupt, and pervert the LORD’s words. In the face of Bible passage after Bible verse, the Calvinist, like the well-trained cultist he is, has preposterous “reasons” why God didn’t mean what He plainly said in His Word. Now friends, that is the work of the enemy of the Almighty. Just as he did in the Garden with the first woman, so he does today, adding to, taking away, and twisting divine truth.
Quotes of John Calvin … draw your own conclusions.
“Of the eternal election, by which God has predestinated some to salvation, and others to destruction … The predestination by which God adopts some to the hope of life, and adjudges others to eternal death, no man who would be thought pious ventures simply to deny…By predestination we mean the eternal decree of God, by which he determined with himself whatever he wished to happen with regard to every man. All are not created on equal terms, but some are preordained to eternal life, others to eternal damnation; and, accordingly, as each has been created for one or other of these ends, we say that he has been predestinated to life or to death. (Calvin Institutes 3:21:5: 06 emphasis mine)
“Creatures are so governed by the secret counsel of God, that nothing happens but what he has knowingly and willingly decreed.” (John Calvin, Institutes of Christian Religion, Book 1, Chapter 16, Paragraph 3)
“…the counsels and wills of … See Moremen are so governed as to move exactly in the course which he has destined.” (John Calvin, Institutes of Christian Religion, Book 1, Chapter 16, Paragraph 8)
“thieves and murderers, and other evildoers, are instruments of divine providence, being employed by the Lord himself to execute judgments which he has resolved to inflict.” (John Calvin, Institutes of Christian Religion, Book 1, Chapter 17, Paragraph 5)
“The first man fell because the Lord deemed it meet that he should.” (John Calvin, Institutes of Christian Religion, Book 3, Chapter 23, Paragraph 8).
“Creatures are so governed by the secret counsel of God, that nothing happens but what he has knowingly and willingly decreed.” (John Calvin, Institutes of Christian Religion, Book 1, Chapter 16, Paragraph 3)…
“that God not only foresaw the fall of the first man, and in him the ruin of his posterity; but also at his own pleasure arranged it” John Calvin (Institutes of the Christian Religion” Book III, Chapter 23, Paragraph 7)
“I freely acknowledge my doctrine to be this: that Adam fell, not only by the permission of God, but by His very secret council and decree; and that Adam drew all his posterity with himself, by his fall, into eternal damnation” (Secret Providence, pg. 267.) -John Calvin
“At this point in particular the flesh rages when it hears that the predestination to death of those who perish is referred to the will of God.” -John Calvin (Calvin’s New Testament Commentaries: Romans and Thessalonians, p.208)
“It could be asked here, if God does not want any to perish, why do so many in fact perish? My reply is that no mention is made here of the secret decree of God by which the wicked are doomed to their own ruin, but only of His loving-kindness as it is made known to us in the Gospel. There God stretches out His hand to all alike, but He only grasps those (in such a way as to lead to Himself) whom He has chosen before the foundation of the world.” -John Calvin (Calvin’s New Testament Commentaries: Hebrews and I and II Peter, p.364)
“We also note that we should consider the creation of the world so that we may realize that everything is subject to God and ruled by his will and that when the world has done what it may, nothing happens other than what God decrees.” -John Calvin (Acts: Calvin, The Crossway Classic Commentaries, p.66)
“First, the eternal predestination of God, by which before the fall of Adam He decreed what should take place concerning the whole human race and every individual, was fixed and determined.” -John Calvin (Concerning the Eternal Predestination of God, p.121)
“God had no doubt decreed before the foundation of the world what … He would do … with every one of us and had assigned to everyone by His secret counsel his part in life.” -John Calvin (Calvin’s New Testament Commentaries: Galatians, Ephesians, Philippians and Colossians, p.20)
“…the reason why God elects some and rejects others is to be found in His purpose alone. … before men are born their lot is assigned to each of them by the secret will of God. … the salvation or the destruction of men depends on His free election.” -John Calvin (Calvin’s New Testament Commentaries: Romans and Thessalonians, p.203)
“Everything is controlled by God’s secret purpose, and nothing can happen except by his knowledge and will.” -John Calvin (The Institutes of Christian Religion, Bk. 1, Ch. 16, Sect. 3)
“What we must prove is that single events are ordered by God and that every event comes from his intended will. Nothing happens by chance.” – John Calvin (The Institutes of Christian Religion, Book I, Ch. 16, Sect. 4)
“When he uses the term permission, he means that the will of God is the supreme and primary cause of everything, because nothing happens without his order of permission.” -John Calvin (The Institutes of Christian Religion, Book I, Ch. 16, Sect. 8)
“He has plenty of reasons for comfort as he realises that the devil and all the ungodly are reined in by God, so that they cannot conceive, plan or carry out any crime, unless God allows it, indeed commands it. They are not only in bondage to him, but are forced to serve him. It is the Lord’s prerogative to enable the enemy’s rage and to control it at will, and it is in his power to decide how far and how long it may last, so that wicked men cannot break free and do exactly what they want….” -John Calvin (The Institutes of Christian Religion, Book I, Ch.17, Sect. 10)
“First, it must be observed that the will of God is the cause of all things that happen in the world; and yet God is not the author of evil.” -John Calvin (Concerning the Eternal Predestination of God, p.169)
“Whatever things are done wrongly and unjustly by man, these very things are the right and just works of God. This may seem paradoxical at first sight to some….” -John Calvin (Concerning the Eternal Predestination of God, p.169)
“But where it is a matter of men’s counsels, wills, endeavours, and exertions, there is greater difficulty in seeing how the providence of God rules here too, so that nothing happens but by His assent and that men can deliberately do nothing unless He inspire it.” -John Calvin (Concerning the Eternal Predestination of God, pp.171-172)
“Does God work in the hearts of men, directing their plans and moving their wills this way and that, so that they do nothing but what He has ordained?” -John Calvin (Concerning the Eternal Predestination of God, p.174)
“For the man who honestly and soberly reflects on these things, there can be no doubt that the will of God is the chief and principal cause of all things.” -John Calvin (Concerning the Eternal Predestination of God, p.177)
“But of all the things which happen, the first cause is to be understood to be His will, because He so governs the natures created by Him, as to determine all the counsels and the actions of men to the end decreed by Him.” -John Calvin (Concerning the Eternal Predestination of God, p.178)
“But it is quite frivolous refuge to say that God otiosely permits them, when Scripture shows Him not only willing but the author of them.” -John Calvin (Concerning the Eternal Predestination of God, p.176,)
Thus, man CANNOT be responsible…
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“I didn’t know Calvinists believed that. I remember when I was first saved and I was reading the bible continually- then some started sharing Calvinist teachings and I “knew” they were wrong because the Bible didn’t say what they were preaching. Throughout the years I’ve heard some share these falsities and I knew they were wrong – when we know our bibles and believe what it says we won’t be deceived.” Sherry J.
“Humm. Wow!! It truly is hard for me to keep silent when I see heresy. I just have to say something.It is very seducing to believe that it is all God’s fault not our own.Thank you Jesus for continually showing me the truth. I almost bought into this lie. I do say almost. Thank you Jesus for protecting me. NO, GOD IS NOT A LIAR!! When He said ALL He means ALL!!! Everyone has been, is getting and will get a chance to repent….” CJ
“John Calvin is in the same boat as many theologians, from Luther to Smith to MacArthur. I mean, when you reject any of the scripture or explain it away with private interpretations, you are really taking the authority away from God and claiming it as your own. One says repentance is not necessary one says only faith, another says baptism is nothing and many say all you have to do is believe. Let God be right and every man a liar.” Clint Stone
“The Calvinist dogma of TULIP is 1 of implicating God in sin. According to them man doesn’t make his own choices, God makes our choices for us. This would include the sinner…
God is holy. he is absolved of all evil in the world, and has nothing to do with sin, directly or vicariously through us.
It is because of our free will the evil happens and God is absolved from it, because it is our choice not his.
Calvinism is a threat. Ultimately, this false theology would have you believe that God is a God who is playing chess with Himself, deciding who He loves best out of all His equally sinful chess pieces, like a kid playing favorites.” Marion Mills
Email Received:
“This is a picture of the “hypercalvinist.” An enormous difference from true Reformed Calvinistic theology (which is what all of church history has taught). If these guys are going to speak out against this in a delusional stereotypical way then they should stop setting up straw men to burn down. Are there hypercalvinists? Yep…but not to the degree these with false Arminian theology make a claim for.”
Reply:
Shawn, “all of church history” did not teach the falsehoods of de-formed theology … in fact, what of the truth of the 27 books of God’s NT Word needed to be RE-formed or formed again? That’s an indictment against the Almighty who told us that “ALL things that pertain unto life and godliness” are found in His Word – in other words, it’s complete (2 Peter 1:3-4, 19-21).
No type of Calvinism is biblical…. that’s like saying that “white magic” is okay… when in reality it’s more insidiously diabolical because it poses as being innocent when it’s laced with deadly lies.
Shawn, I am not an Arminian, just a Bible believer. This one verse alone cancels all possibility that Calvinism could be truth: “There is NO NO NO respect of persons with God.” (Romans 2:11) – Now, you must choose to deny Christ by rejecting His truth or to repent and believe the original Gospel which strongly opposes the Augustinian falsehoods of Calvinism and exposes them as being false.
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“Hi! Thank you so much for writing the article you did about The Idiocy of Calvinism. I read more than half of it to my family last night and we had a wonderful time in study, prayer, and discovery. It opened my eyes very much, as I previously didn’t understand what exactly was wrong with the evil TULIP conception. Thank you very much for writing this article and I hope that it helps others as well. God Bless you brother!” Abigail S.
Email Received:
“I was greatly blessed and brought to a renewed repentance by reading the article on the false teaching that promotes self love but am flabbergasted by the attempt to refute Calvinism, an imperfect system at best, using the verse about God not being a respecter of persons! Whoever wrote that article is under strong delusion as to the meaning of this scripture. It clearly means that God’s choosing of one person over another is not based upon any supposed qualities God sees in the person themselves but in God’s own inscrutable will. It is a mystery to all who trust in the Savior why they should have been chosen and others passed over. It crucifies human pride and gives all the glory to God! I sincerely pray that your thoughts would be conformed to those of Christ in this vital matter. Let’s all seek to let every word of God’s revelation have its full impact, even when it challenges our presuppositions and systems. Respectfully,” Alan
Reply:
The Greek word which was correctly translated as “ALL” in English in the Bible, means …“ALL.” So God wills that some perish? 2 Peter 3:9 No He wishes none to perish! That’s why He gave His only begotten Son for the “whole world.” (1 John 2:2; John 3:16, etc.)
It’s a “mystery”?
How is this divine revelation a “mystery” other than if a demon has blinded our minds because we chose to buy into a false theology?
“The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that ANY should perish, but that ALL should come to repentance.” 2 Peter 3:9
DID JESUS TELL US HE WAS GOING TO GO TO THE CROSS AND DRAW SOME OR ALL MEN? – “And I, if I be lifted up (on the cross) from the earth, will draw ALL men unto me. This he said, signifying what death he should die.” John 12:32-33
So Jesus died for “all men” and yet didn’t intend to save “all men”? John 12:32
“Therefore as by the offence of one JUDGMENT CAME UPON ALL MEN to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one THE FREE GIFT CAME UPON ALL MEN unto justification of life.” Romans 5:18
The doctrines of Calvinism clearly and brazenly call the very Son of God a liar. Before going to the cross to die for “the sins of the WHOLE world,” Jesus said: “And I, if I be lifted up (on the cross) from the earth, will draw ALL men unto me. This he said, signifying what death he should die.” (John 12:32-33)
“For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to ALL (not some) men.” Titus 2:11
“Well sir, I’d say in true humility, that this word is an atomic bomb that blasts this doctrine into dust and leaves nothing but any who would still side with Calvinism are left standing without weapons in a thick fog of smoke… Amen!” Tim Smith
“I used to think the same way (OSAS/Calvinism). I encourage you to seek Him and His truth. He showed me that I was wrong and deceived and I repented!” Gloria S.
Alex Greystone writes:
“Calvinists use an extremely poor and outright false bit of exegesis. The primary meaning of elko (Greek word for “draw”) is draw and in the context of John 6:44 and John 12:32 it means “to draw mentally and morally” according to Moulton’s Analytical Greek lexicon. Notice the poor logic and doctrinally driven hermeneutic: according to the Calvinist ALL men are dragged– but of course (somehow) they are not all saved!!! And then amusingly you try to rub this in the face of Arminians as some sort of proof text for irresistible grace!!!! Great example of Reformed exegesis! WOW! :)”
“Brother Todd! Thanks for exposing the “another gospel/another Jesus” heresy of Calvinism. I’m sure you’ve come under fire down through the years, but GREATER is He that is in you than he that is in the world…I’m on the front lines with ya! God bless!” ~Eric N.
Message Received:
“Wait, hold up. He didn’t create sin. What Bible said that? Isaiah 45:7 says God creates evil.”
Reply:
God only creates evil if you will in the sense that HE allows all to choose good or evil, darkness or light (John 3:19-21).
Typically, calvinists purposely refuse to look at the full counsel of God’s Word and hyper interpret, over emphasize, go to seed on 1 verse here and there, while ignoring the whole counsel of Scripture, as they are hell bent on promulgating certain heretical misinterpretations.
See Deut. 30:19; Josh. 24:15; James 1:13-15…..
In what way does God Create Evil? What does this mean? Well, as in all cases, the whole of Holy Scripture must be used to interpret the rest of it. Isaiah 45:7 Examined
“I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.” Isaiah 45:7
The cultist of calvinism are quick to use this verse to “confirm” their heresy that God ordains and desire some for destruction. The fact that God gave man free will does not mean that when evil happens that God ordained it. Only a calvinist heretic could conclude such. Like any cult, they ignore volumes of Scripture to conclude their delusions. Here’s an example of a passage they pay no attention to:
“Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man: 14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed. 15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.” James 1:13-15
At the core, the calvinist is a moral coward who doesn’t want to believe God has given men free will because the calvinist simply doesn’t and will not truly repent and obey God. In his fairy tale delusion, the calvinist blames, indicts the Almighty for the most heinous of crimes, sins. He has created a god in his own sinful image. The calvinist ignores the above passage which plainly reveals that when their is sin, it’s man freely choosing to do that sinning, not God who is “Holy, holy, holy” and tempts no man to sin (Isaiah 6:3; Revelation 4:8).
“God cannot be tempted with” evil (James 1:13) and yet God created evil in the sense that He gave the angels and mankind the choice to serve or rebel against Him (Isaiah 45:7).
Notice that Isaiah 45:7 uses the word “evil” and not sin. Sin came about by Satan and man, not God. “Evil” refers to the ability God allows men to commit, hence “the tree of the knowledge of good AND evil.” (Genesis 2:17) God didn’t create sin, He created evil or the ability for men to choose evil over good. The LORD made it possible for man to disobey Him, to sin.
The Testimony of Adam H. who was Delivered from Calvinism:
“I do not believe in the Calvinist doctrine of total depravity. I see unsaved people performing righteous deeds. I see souls coming to Christ because they were convinced of the truth and CHOSE to believe. I see God, in both the Old and New Testaments, offer mankind choices and I see men making choices. I see the word “IF” used a lot in conjunction with declared judgment.
Having said all of that, I DO see original sin. If anyone would like to discuss that, I would like to show you what I see in the Bible. I AM open to being wrong, as long as you hold yourself up to the same standard of evidence you ask of me. That and intellectual honesty is a must. By the way, I hate Calvin’s evil doctrine. I was a Calvinist, until I read the Bible without his filter on my eyes! Thanks.”
Of Calvinism, one commentator notes:
“A Calvinist is like Grover Dill from A Christmas Story. He’s the Elect, he’s on the side of his bully “god” and looks on with sadistic glee while this “god” exercises his ineffable will on the masses of the reprobate. If you dare ask the Calvinist “why?” he will stick his nose high in the air (such is the innate righteousness of the Elect) and tell you simply that “God’s in charge!” and that “It’s wickedness to ask why!” You can’t win with a Calvinist. There’s a good reason why England threw the Puritans OUT; they were a cancerous tumor on the body politic.”
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Apostasy
Church History or the Scriptures? [podcast]

Regrettably, “reformed” counterfeits are more interested in the writings of their calvinistic wolves than in reading and studying the Bible itself – reading, studying Jesus, His apostles and prophets.
Unless you have the whole Bible memorized, and have a working knowledge of all the doctrines of the original Gospel, why would you be wasting your time reading something God never said He inspired, such as church history?
IF you are reading more “reformation” and church history literature than the Bible, you will inevitably be deceived for not choosing to have a love for the truth of God – which was given you in HIS Word (2 Thessalonians 2:9-12). Study God’s Word itself beloved. That’s exactly what the LORD instructs you to do (2 Timothy 2:15).
We must go back further than the “reformation.” Nothing needed to be RE-formed…. because we have a Bible which is the final divine authority (Mark 13:31; 2 Timothy 3:15-17; 2 Peter 1:19-21, etc.). Many of the “reformers” were absolute heretics such as the demon possessed murderous maniac, John Calvin.Beware of those who without saying it outright, place church history on the same level as the Holy Scriptures. Such men are false (Matthew 23).
We get our view, perspective, knowledge, and understanding of God via His own Word. Everything else is secondary, every extra-biblical source, is unnecessary, and can be a diversion. Beware saints. Many today have a skewed understanding of Scripture because instead of allowing the Holy Spirit to teach them His pure truth through the study of His Word, they’ve researched and studied what mere men have stated about the Bible. This they did instead of studying God’s Word for themselves as the LORD instructs us to do (2 Timothy 2:15).
“We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts: 20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. 21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.” 2 Peter 1:19-21
Personally, I waste no time on early church fathers or church history. They weren’t ordained, sanctioned by God exclusively to pen the words of Holy Writ, the Bible, which is God’s Word and the highest divine authority (2 Peter 1:19-21; 2 Timothy 2:15; 3:16-17). What’s it matter if you know what they said? The LORD didn’t ordain them to communicate His truth to the world. This does nothing but create confusion (1 Corinthians 14:33). Many would rather listen to what mere men had to say about God and the Bible than to learn for themselves what God said in His own Word. The LORD has always instructed His people to study and learn and attend to HIS words (Deuteronomy 4, 6, 11, Isaiah 34:16, etc.).
“Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.” 2 Timothy 2:15
God’s Word is “Settled in Heaven” forever!
“For ever, O LORD, thy word is settled in heaven.” Psalms 119:89
Church history doesn’t matter at all and is littered with false teachers. It has no divine authentication or standing in Heaven and is the very reason so many are misled today. WHO told you to study church history or that church history was important? Not the LORD. No Scriptures could affirm such a position. Jesus told us the Holy Spirit would lead us into all truth and that His “word is truth,” not church history (John 16:13-14; 17:17). Church history is not divinely inspired, Holy Scripture is and it alone is “profitable for doctrine, correction, reproof, and instruction in righteousness,” not church history (2 Timothy 3:15-17). No one could ever possibly know the Holy Scriptures well enough so why waste time studying mere men who were never sanctioned by God to be our examples or teach His sound doctrine?
“Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away.” Mark 13:31
ANYONE LEADING YOU TO STUDY CHURCH HISTORY INSTEAD OF THE BIBLE ITSELF, IS A VILE DEMONIC WOLF. BEWARE.
Jesus and His holy apostles made it clear that only the Word of God can wash and sanctify (set apart) the disciple to the LORD – and nothing else.
“Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.” John 17:17
“Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it; 26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word, 27 That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.” Ephesians 5:25-27
When you hear someone promoting the study of church history, you can be sure he’s either been: 1) to seminary, or 2) influenced by seminarians.
The reformers were mere men. They were not included in the “holy men of God who spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost” as were those who were divinely inspired to pen the words of Scripture (2 Peter 1:19-21). WHY waste your time on church history? We must go back to the LORD and His prophets and apostles just as did the Bereans who tested Paul and his doctrine strictly against the written Word (Acts 17:10-11). Otherwise we will err in our doctrine. Reformed groups are famous for misdirecting people from Scripture onto their heroes of the faith, none of which were sanctioned by God or ordained to record Holy Writ. They mislead people into studying men in history who were known devils. One example of this course, this atrocious deception, is that they herald diabolical, heretical wolves like John Calvin.
ALL of God’s answers are here – in His written Word – not in the study of church history (2 Timothy 3:16-17; 2 Peter 1:3-4; 19-21).
Personally, I stay away from the “revivalist” and church history and stick with the Scriptures which are pure (Proverbs 30:5-6).
The LORD has called us to be His humble disciples (Micah 6:8; Matthew 5:3; 10:16; 20:20-28; 23:8-12, etc.). Do we see the call for a “revivalist” in the Word? Evangelist yes (Acts 21:8; Ephesians 4:11). I say this because of some aspiring to become “revivalists” due to reading church history. Sobeit. Yet isn’t it safest to walk humbly before our LORD, reaching one precious saint or soul at a time? Isn’t that a better, more biblical aspiration? (Micah 6:8)
At least some of those many refer to as a “revivalist” taught heresy, such as Charles Finney.
When a preacher has to always be yelling, does that raise a red flag? What’s HE hiding? Is the anointing in the volume?
Reformed groups are famous for misdirecting people from Scripture onto their heroes of the faith, none of which were sanctioned by God or recorded in Holy Writ. As if drawing people away from God’s Word to study un-inspired church history wasn’t enough, they mislead people into studying men in history who were known devils. One example of this course, this atrocious deception, is that they herald diabolical, heretical wolves like John Calvin.
Church history is not holy Scripture and is not divinely inspired.
MANY, instead of studying pure Holy Scripture (KJB), get caught up and derailed by the myriad of false systems of theology that have flooded the church world …. Calvinism, eternal security evangelicalism, church history, church fathers, the delusional witchcraft of the NAR (new apostolic reformation) movement, the Christ-denying heretical word of faith system, etc. The list goes on and on and on. Satan has many snares laid to clutter your mind and life with foolishness. God allows those who don’t authentically fear and love Him enough to study HIS pure Word to be sent “strong delusion” and thereby deceived (2 Thessalonians 2:9-12). They are blinded, thinking they are going to Heaven and yet are “Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth” (2 Timothy 3:7). There’s a divine elimination system – separating the sheep from the goats.
1 Corinthians 11:19 is an interesting verse of truth to ponder.
“For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you.” 1 Corinthians 11:19
Church history contains an epidemic of contradicting theology and confusion because it’s not divinely inspired. “God is not the author of confusion” (1 Corinthians 14:33).
Many who study church history instead of God’s Word, are caught up in the heretical system of the worst wolf in New Testament history. Yes, they adhere to the diabolical monstrosity named John Calvin, a man who had over 60 people murdered and admitted he received his teachings from a Catholic named Augustine. John Calvin Exposed
There is no contradiction in Scripture because the one true God inspired all of it! Church history is not Holy Scripture and is not divinely inspired. Let us wake up and study God’s Word as He expressly instructed us to do (2 Timothy 2:15, etc.). The LORD never once told any of His servants to study church history. Such is a diversion of the enemy of all souls.
“ALL things that pertain to life and godliness” are written for us in the “Holy Scriptures” which are “the exceeding great and precious promises” of the LORD (2 Peter 1:3-4; 20-21).
The study of church history in search of answers is a misguided endeavor and a waste of the time God has given us if we don’t even thoroughly know the full-counsel of His Word.
What is final divine authority? Man’s history or Holy Writ? Why waste our time studying the works of men when we grossly lack the knowledge of God’s Word? (2 Timothy 3:16-17; Acts 17:10-11)
The study of church history is clearly a rabbit trail of the enemy to keep people from the revealing and transforming truth of God’s Word. The Berean believers “searched the SCRIPTURES daily,” not church history outside the Bible canon of the 39 OT books. Jesus told us to “search the scriptures” because HE Himself is revealed in the Holy Scriptures, not subjective church history concerning mere men who were not divinely authenticated as were the “holy men of God” whom God used and “spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost” (John 5:39-40; 2 Peter 1:20-21).
“Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. 40 And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.” John 5:39-40
The Holy Scriptures have as their Grand Subject the Son of God. Like the pharisees, the religionist of His day, those who hear it and don’t repent, coming to Jesus, forfeit the blessing of His salvation.
The “Holy Scriptures,” not church history books, are given to make us “wise unto salvation,” “for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness,” and so that we might “be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.”
“And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. 16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.” 2 Timothy 3:15-17
It’s the Word of God, not church history, that furnishes the heart and life of the man of God, fully equipping him for the work of the ministry.
When Paul instructed Timothy to “Study to shew thyself approved unto God,” he was speaking of studying the Holy Scriptures, not church history (2 Timothy 2:15).
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Apostasy
Apostasy Dialogues

“Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; 2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; 3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.” 1 Timothy 4:1-3
One disciple writes: “This modern day false church buildings are just as corrupt minded as those Roman soldiers that–“cast lots for portions of Christ’s torn garment hanging from the blood soaked cross”–making merchandise of the Lords Sufferings—Amen.”
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“His watchmen are blind: they are all ignorant, they are all dumb dogs, they cannot bark; sleeping, lying down, loving to slumber. 11 Yea, they are greedy dogs which can never have enough, and they are shepherds that cannot understand: they all look to their own way, every one for his gain, from his quarter. 12 Come ye, say they, I will fetch wine, and we will fill ourselves with strong drink; and to morrow shall be as this day, and much more abundant.” Isaiah 56:10-12
At times, when people don’t know the Word on a certain topic, they cop out by saying things like “Well, we can’t make that call” or “Well we just don’t know.” There are the “secret things” but that does not include the things God has revealed to us in His Word (Deut. 29:29; Hosea 4:6). Let’s not be ignorant of the Word of God beloved saints.
“My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.” Hosea 4:6
HOW DID JESUS tell us to know/discern others? By the FRUIT of their lives (Matthew 7:16,20). THE FACT that JESUS told us to “know” (discern) people means He wants us to do so! (Matthew 7:16,20) Same chapter as “judge not” (verse 1-5).
Not only are believers to “discern”, we are to teach others to “discern” – to distinguish the difference between truth and error, whole truth and half-truths!:
“And they shall teach my people the difference between the holy and profane, and cause them to discern between the unclean and the clean.” Ezekiel 44:23
DID YOU know that Matthew 18:15-17 is NOT speaking about wolves? Jesus is speaking in this passage about “thy BROTHER” which is exclusive to the true body of Christ and the members thereof. Please read this passage afresh and let’s cease misusing it. Many times when Jesus’ people obey Him by exposing, marking false teachers, some will erroneously try to apply Matthew 18:15-17 which is speaking only to the body of Christ and no heretic is a member of Christ’s body. Heretics who teach a lie publicly are to be marked publicly as they are leading others astray by speaking contrary to God’s Word, (especially on an essential doctrine). Romans 16:17-18 etc.
Live Action!
Recently, a dear sister in Christ sent in this warning in order to protect Christ’s body:
“I came across your website and would like you to add Robin Bullock. He and his wife used to be country western music “stars”. Now she is a “pastor” and he is a “prophet”. I listened to him for a time. It always bothered me that they obviously did not honor Titus 1 or I Timothy 3. Now I wish to help warn others. Their is a Rumble video where he talks about cities on the Earth before man and that Satan had lived on the moon. He is one of the prophets that endorse Trump.
Also, false prophetess Kat Kerr talks about “Christmas Town” in Heaven.”
QUESTION:
“Who do you think is a sound teacher?”
REPLY:
Good question ….. Genesis to Revelation – Moses, Jesus, Paul, Peter, John and all the “holy men of God” by whom God gave us His Word (2 Peter 1:19-21). Those are the only men we should endorse!
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“You are too harsh! You seem to come across with a sledge hammer.”
REPLY:
Gospel, truth sledgehammers are God’s way: “Is not my word like as a fire? saith the LORD; and like a HAMMER that breaketh the rock in pieces?” (Jeremiah 23:29)
Perhaps you could learn some things…. right? “Open rebuke is better than secret love. 6 Faithful are the wounds of a friend; but the kisses of an enemy are deceitful.” (Prov 27:5-6) Are you rebuking when needed or are you the enemy who kisses, compromises with that which God calls sin/evil?
Soft men, soft preachers, soft preaching gets nothing done – it makes comfortable, it coddles men in their sins. No, they only perpetuate people in their sins, leading them to damnation (Isaiah 58:1; Jeremiah 23:22).
Was the message of the original Gospel always soft? Did Jesus and His holy apostles pander to the sinful sentiments and whims of sinful men? No! Read God’s Word for yourself as He commanded you to do – and cease now to be misled by the soft-peddling pansies of today’s apostate modern church world! Repent now. Follow Jesus! Then you won’t live by your sinful emotions but will rather be an authentic disciple of Jesus who loves His truth – NO MATTER WHO IT OFFENDS. But first it must offend YOU unto repentance – to drive you to real repentance and a real, a crucified walk with Jesus (Galatians 2:20). “Let God be true and EVERY man a liar.” (Romans 3:4) “You preach this Gospel JUST LIKE it’s written young man, you understand me!” “You preach this Gospel JUST LIKE it’s written young man, you understand me!”
Recently, some guy took me to task on a political post where I was preaching the Word. When asked he claimed to be born again. Then he ranted against me for preaching the Word on that forum and told me that the Bible didn’t belong there on that medium. Here was my reply:
Sir, the LORD is calling you to repent and be saved. Jesus says you are “NOT of God” because you refuse to hear His Word (John 8:47). Regrettably, you wouldn’t know the Son of God if He stood in your face. You are full of sin and self and have no hope outside of the nail scarred risen Savior and LORD. Repentance is essential and if you do get right with Him, you will never deny Christ, no matter where you are.
Recently, while seeking to shut down, hinder exposing Satan and his evil human agents, one said: “Love is the only thing that really matters. 1 Cor 13:1” My Response: “But you left out verse 6 which describes true love in contrast with false love – “Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth;” …. God’s love, when resident in a man, will expose error, heresies, doctrines of devils. If not, he has no love at all from God.
“Open rebuke is better than secret love. 6 Faithful are the wounds of a friend; but the kisses of an enemy are deceitful.” Proverbs 27:5-6
UNDER the command of the KING of kings we are on a mission to preach Christ’s original Gospel and to tell on the devil and his human agents! (Jude 3; Ephesians 5:11; Matthew 10:26; Romans 16:17-18) Let the light of divine truth expose all darkness – beginning in our own hearts!
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“I’ve been reading Philippians this morning. He says as long as Christ is being proclaimed whether in false motives or true he is rejoicing.”
REPLY:
Yes yet he also calls out “enemies of the cross of Christ” whose god is their belly – their un-crucified, self-serving carnal appetites (Philippians 3:18-19).
“What then? notwithstanding, every way, whether in pretence, or in truth, Christ is preached; and I therein do rejoice, yea, and will rejoice.” Philippians 1:18
This is in no way a justification for false leaders. ANY person can preach Christ but that doesn’t make them true. He’s dealing with motives here. We can have perfect – BIBLE – doctrine and be spiritually amiss in our own hearts.
Notice that in Philippians 1:18 they preached Christ. That would mean they preached true doctrine. It was in the wrong motive yet they preached Christ.
Without exception, every false leader will have “damnation.” (2 Peter 2:1-3) In Matthew 23 alone 3 times Jesus tells the false teacher of His day that they are going to hell.
QUESTION ASKED:
“What do you think about ‘lordship salvation”‘”
REPLY:
It depends on how you use the term “lordship salvation.” Most of the people coming against what they call “lordship salvation” are the diabolical, lawless, Christ-denying, cross-less counterfeits who espouse Satan’s system of calvinism.
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“So you don’t believe we are eternally secure?” Baptist pastor
REPLY:
Undeniably, un-conditional eternal security is the first lie Satan told to mankind which caused his fall – and he’s still telling the same lie (Gen 2:17; 3:4). Jesus taught “If a man abide (remain) not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.” (John 15:6). See also Ezek 33:12-13 and Matt 10:22; 24:13; 2 Pet 2:20-21; Heb 10:26-39, etc.). Lie of the Ages (book)
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“The church has dirty garments and is not ready to meet Jesus.”
REPLY:
At times we see people who erroneously think that Christ’s church are those in those Sunday morning buildings they call “church.” Nahhhh …. Actually, their perspective is off …. the real church, God’s people, are always ready, though they be few…. Christ’s church is not the visible apostate church world but rather individual believers who have come our from among those organizations which are long ago departed from the faith…. 1 Timothy 4:1-3
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“But no man, no leader or his doctrine is perfect.”
REPLY:
God’s Word is perfect. What a man teaches must be the perfect WORD of God or he is a false teacher, without exception. God gave us HIS written Word so there’s no excuse. “Preach the word.” (2 Timothy 4:2-4) Pretty simple. Speaking of sin and doctrine, Jesus and Paul both said that just “A little leaven leaveneth (ruins) the whole lump” (Gal 5:9). “Teach NO other doctrine.” 1 Tim 1:3……”If any man speak, let him speak as the oracles of God.” (1 Peter 4:11) “If they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.” (Isaiah 8:20) Satan’s most effective wolves in sheep’s clothing are those who speak 99% truth but that 1% of poison is all it takes to kill. You are making excuse but God’s Word never does for teaching anything except the original Gospel. In fact, anyone who preaches anything else is “accursed.” Read Gal 1:6-9. Sound Doctrine
Rose Marie Lenon Tolentino writes: “I was deceived when I was a Catholic and deceived in the ‘Christian’ faith by groups calling themselves ‘Christians,’ but in many instances their faith wasn’t biblical—according to Holy Scripture. I thank God that His Word says: ‘And ye shall seek me, and find me, when ye shall search for me with all your heart’ (Jeremiah 29:13).”
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“You mean that most pastors are going to hell? Have you not gone too far with that?”
REPLY:
Hi Sean. You seem very sincere friend…… Question: Does the Bible ever use the words “many true prophets”? No. Does the Word of God use the words “MANY false prophets (leaders)”? Yes. What do we read in 2 Tim 3:13? KJB
Message Received:
(defending Sunday morning and modern church membership) “Do not forsake the assembling of yourselves.” Crystal
Reply:
Hi Crystal …. yes we’ve addressed that passage many times (Heb. 10:24-25)…. that says nothing of going to a church building on Sundays at a certain time and this being what’s important to Christ. In fact the earliest believers met house to house daily amen … Acts 2:42-27 … they simply could not get enough of Jesus who ordered us to serve Him “daily” and not weekly … many pastors use Heb. 10:24-25 in the wrong way …. yes sun is a great day to fellowship and I do it myself and yet, we must not limit this fellowship to sun mornings … in fact, check out the “daily” aspect of Hebrews 3:13 – “But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin.” We need Jesus “daily” and not weekly. The word weekly never appears in Scripture but “daily” appears in the New Testament Scriptures 22 times. Some pastors are building a business and they want people to associate their so called church building and church business with serving God which is wrong.
Interaction with a Pastor:
Here is my response in a recent interaction with a pastor who was confronted about recommending the “5 Love Languages” psychobabble book instead of Holy Scripture. Unbelievably, this pastor replied with the typical “well they are still on the milk as babes so can’t handle the Bible. Not everyone walk where I walk.”
My Response to Him:
Men of God are called to endear men to God’s Word, period and nothing else (1 Timothy 4:6). All human reasoning must be crucified. Isaiah 8:16 – “seal the law (Word) among my disciples.” “Preach the word” 2 Timothy 4:2. The reason why people aren’t walking in the full truth as authentic disciples of Christ is for this exact reason…. Where leaders take things into their own hands instead of simply feeding people GOD’s Word……and getting them into God’s Word for themselves. We have the words “sincere milk of the word” which is what baby believers are to be fed with and endeared to (1 Peter 2:2). Sharing peripheral sources only retards that process.
“Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.” 2 Timothy 2:15
Any pastor who is not preaching the pure Word, thereby getting their audience into God’s Word for themselves, is a false pastor.
We need a revelation of the power of the Word of God and it’s infinite divine power.
When the LORD gives us this revelation through seeking Him, we will preach nothing except His Word. Colossians 3:16; 1 Timothy 4:6, 16
By divine design, the longest chapter in the Bible, right in the center of the 66, is on one topic – the written Word of God.
I want to encourage you to read this ultra important Bible chapter, praying before you begin, asking the LORD to reveal His truth to your innermost man along with His holy fear.
Todd
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“This is just another sign that He is coming soon, but first the apostasy has to come. We need to pray for all of these who are spouting false doctrine. I would not want to be in your shoes on judgement day. be blessed.”
REPLY:
Please give us all just 1 specific example where the Word of God instructs believers to pray for wolves? The burden of proof is on you…. and you won’t find 1 place in the Bible where we are told to pray for Christ’s enemies…. but you WILL find numerous places where the LORD instructs us to rebuke and expose and mark them …. YOU are on dangerous ground because you are bidding Godspeed to the enemies of Christ and if you don’t repent you will receive the same damnation as they do – 2 John 7-11; 2 Peter 2:1-3. Regrettably, you are speaking while having no biblical clue as to what you are saying and need to cease speaking out of emotions instead of biblical truth.
MESSAGE RECEIVED FROM AN ECUMENICAL CATHOLIC DEFENDER:
“Jesus preached Love not hate and division. I suggest you unfriend me then because I don’t think Jesus would say or do what you’re putting forth. There is enough hate and violence in this world and I don’t want to participate at any level. Christ Jesus is my Lord and Savior, the Only begotten and most beloved Son of the One True Living God. My relationship is with Christ and He doesn’t espouse hate but love. I’ll pray for Todd, that the Lord Christ Jesus will provide you heavenly understanding.” Douglas
REPLY:
The divine “heavenly understanding” is the written Word of God which He’s already given and which we are all personally accountable to keep and will be judged by (Psalms 119:105, 130; John 12:48; Romans 2:16; 2 Peter 1:3-4, 16-21, etc.).
To make such statements proves you have espoused a false love: Jesus says: “Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.” Matthew 10:34
Jesus DID preach division? – “Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword (division).” Matthew 10:34
To speak the LORD’s truth is loving and to refuse to is deceitful hatred:
“He that speaketh truth sheweth forth righteousness: but a false witness deceit.” Proverbs 12:17
Jesus preached a divine ultimatum – which divides mankind into just 2 kingdoms: “He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.” Mark 16:16
Jesus said: “He that is not with me ISSSS against me.” Matthew 12:30
Jesus says: “He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.” John 3:18
False love exposed by the Bible: “Open rebuke is better than secret love. 6 Faithful are the wounds of a friend; but the kisses of an enemy are deceitful.” Proverbs 27:5-6
Unity at the expense of truth is an antichrist/ecumenical lie from hell. God’s true people are unified by their knowledge of Him, being born again and based on HIS WORD, period. The written Word of God is the final authority for doctrine ad life for all who truly know the LORD (Mathew 7:21-29; 2 Timothy 2:15; 3:15-17; 2 Peter 1:3-4, 19-21, etc.).
God is not the author of unity at the expense of His truth. For example: The Catholic church is a works-based antichrist pagan cult and is plainly not part of Christ’s body (Ephesians 2:8-9). Of His beloved remnant body, concerning them being one with Him and the Father and the true body of Christ, Jesus prayed to the Father “Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth” (John 17:17). The only and non-negotiable foundation upon which the true body of Christ lives, is the written Word of God (Psalms 119; Romans 3:4; 2 Timothy 3:15-17, etc.). Christ’s true body is set apart unto Him on the basis of their love and obedience to His truth (John 8:31-32, 47).
So, big shot, you going to tell the Almighty HE can’t judge people and tell us beforehand in His written Word why He will do such? Delusional. 18 times in Psalm 119 alone the LORD calls His written Word His “JUDGMENTS.” His “judgments” – words – warn us to be forgiven so we won’t be judged.
WHO is “OF GOD” and who is “NOT of God”? – Jesus says: “He that is of God heareth God’s words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.” John 8:47
Those who don’t come into and remain in the sound doctrine of God’s Word, are hell bound, sure as you read these words:
“For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
2Jn 1:8 Look to yourselves, that we lose not those things which we have wrought, but that we receive a full reward.
2Jn 1:9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.
2Jn 1:10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:” 2 John 7-11
Jesus says “JUDGE righteous judgment.” (John 7:24)
Douglas, speaking CHRIST’s truth is not unloving. What you are doing is unloving – because you are still full of self and therefore operating according to your self-serving emotions and not love at all. “God is love” not you and HE alone defines what love is. Read 1 John 4:7-8. You do not hear God’s Word when it’s presented to you but instead put your own tradition and futile thinking/doctrines in place of His Word – just like the hell bound religionists of Jesus’ day (Mark 7:6-10). You do this because you do not know Him. John 8:47 At this point you are an antichrist, a counterfeit and don’t yet see it Douglas. God is calling you to truly repent and when you do, He will save you and HIS Word will be the final authority of your life.
You are acting as if God didn’t leave us HIS WORD which is a denial of Christ. He has already given us His judgments. It will be too late when He comes to judge us for how we lived. Jesus, the JUDGE, says – “He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.” (John 12:48)
Doug, God is calling you to repent. He will not hear any other prayer. The LORD will remove the logs from your own eye once you truly repent and place your whole faith in Christ alone – who gave you His Word – His judgments.
EMAIL RECEIVED:
“Subject: Thank you!!! Message Body: I just wanted to thank you for all your post. I came across Jesse Morrel and Kerrigan Skelly (2 sinless perfectionism false teachers) and just felt so awful because I knew I was not completely sinlessly perfect. I am glad to have come across your articles. They have restored me back to hope. Thank you!” Natalianne
REPLY:
Hi Natalianne. Thank you for emailing sister. So
glad the LORD is moving in your life. Memorizing 2 Cor 3:17 and Gal 5:1 and 3:3 has helped my life immensely! God is so good. If you wish to be on the ministry email, just let me know sister. In Christ, Todd | Sinless Perfectionism Exposed
EMAIL MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“I get concerned when I read some of your articles concerning other ministries. Unfortunately you are not the only one. What is interesting when I read some of the information from the quote false prophet list of people you have on your list. I have yet to see your name on their list, because they don’t have one. Their main calling is to minister and love on the body of Christ and those who don’t know Him. Fortunately I have not found in the scriptures the ministry of correction. All I see is the love of Jesus being spread abroad. One thing is Jesus came to minister to the broken hearted, that means humble and ready to receive and not pull down. Jesus did not like the religious, He had little to say except you sons of vipers. I’m speaking from experience, if you continue on this track you will Fall. It took me years to recover from what I see you doing here. It took a lot of asking forgiveness and ALOT OF REPENTANCE, I am being renewed day by day in seeing people through the eyes of Jesus. I’m sure you get these comments all the time BUT PLEASE go before the Lord and ask forgiveness and forgive your earthly dad for what he did when you were 7 years old and seek out inner healing because there is a root to what is in your heart for what you’re doing here. Be blessed.” Bob
REPLY:
Hi Bob.
Thanks for expressing your thoughts.
You say you are “concerned”? Seems like it’s high time you got concerned about your own depraved, blinded state.
Will you call Christ’s apostle Paul a liar and a deceiver for issuing warnings such as: “But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived”? 2 Timothy 3:13 Did Paul lie OR is there a real threat?
It seems clear that you haven’t read the Scriptures well if you haven’t found the myriad of verses on correction which is clear proof that the wolves have had their satanic effect on your mind (1 Peter 5:8). Those beguilers you’ve chosen over Christ don’t obey God by exposing other wolves and thereby prove themselves as wolves – who don’t want to be discovered.
True born again saints are commanded to “MARK THEM.” (Romans 16:17-18) Do you know what “Mark them” means? SKOPEO is the Greek word for “mark” and means to put them in the cross hairs – aim in and expose them.
“And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove (expose, bring the darkness to the light) them.” Ephesians 5:11
God is calling you to get into His Word: “My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge.” Hosea 4:6
Perhaps, due to your own refusal to love and study and know God’s Word for yourself, you’ve been turned over by God Himself to “strong delusion” so that you believe these lies (2 Thessalonians 2:9-12). This is “after the working of SATAN.”
“Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.” 2 Thessalonians 2:9-12
I bet the wolves you’ve allowed to deceive you will never deal with texts/Bible passages like the one above, right? We know the answer.
“Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try (TEST) the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.” 1 John 4:1
How can you possibly believe these false leaders “love” everybody when they refuse to communicate the whole counsel of Scripture which is directly from the only One who “is love”? (1 John 4:8, 16). No, the devil’s agents who you’ve allowed to mislead you intentionally dodge out mountains of Scripture – and siphon out selected verses to deceive the gullible – “Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them. 18 For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly (selfish carnal appetites); and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple (un-repentant and unlearned and therefore gullible).” Romans 16:17-18
Preaching the Word and rebuking/correcting are a divine command:
“Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, REBUKE (correct), exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine. 3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; 4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.” 2 Timothy 4:2-4
Of whiners who refuse to truly repent and abandon their life to Christ, Ray Zeitler writes: “Upon hearing the hard truths of God’s Word, some say: ‘But I don’t like that Scripture… cause the Lord told me something different.’ Delusional! How is that any different than the made up fairy tale story from Joseph Smith? Or any different than the golden calf… we saw how well that worked out for the Jews.”
God gave us His Word so we could be CORRECTED:
“All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for CORRECTION, for instruction in righteousness: 17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.” 2 Timothy 3:16-17
Bob, you said: “Jesus did not like the religious, He had little to say except you sons of vipers.” Reply: 1. Jesus didn’t like the religious yes but HOW do YOU know that if HE DIDN’T say so??? Your problem is that you don’t realize just how many times He warned of wolves. Do you begin to see how blind you are friend? Read Matthew 23 and get delivered of your little pansy false “Jesus” notions. The Son of God and His men are not wall flowers. Time to repent and God will grant a spine. Do you not realize that in Matthew 23 alone, just 1 chapter, Jesus told the false religious leaders they were going to hell THREE TIMES? Read Matthew 11:12 and stand up like a man – the kingdom of God is full of conflict.
“And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force.” Matthew 11:12
This is a war. No time for being a cowardly pansy. “Endure hardness as a good soldier of Jesus Christ.” (2 Timothy 2:2-4).
“FIGHT” is a biblical mandate:
“FIGHT the good fight of faith, lay hold on eternal life, whereunto thou art also called, and hast professed a good profession before many witnesses.” 1 Timothy 6:12
“We must through MUCH tribulation enter into the kingdom of God.” Acts 14:22
You state: ” I’m speaking from experience, if you continue on this track you will Fall.”
Yes it’s more than obvious that you speak “from experience” and not from God’s Word. Been at this biblical work of exposing false prophets for 3 1/2 decades now. The fact is Bob, you’ve already fallen and simply don’t yet realize it. You are part of the prophesied self-loving, Savior-denying generation of those who ” profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.” (Titus 1:16) The Holy Ghost foretold that the final generation will have a mere “form of godliness but deny the power (divine authority) thereof.’ (2 Timothy 3:5) Denying the power of Christ to reign in one’s personal life is what the Holy Spirit is getting at here. Read this passage to see the details of this generation of self-loving, reputation-preserving moral cowards who openly deny Christ the right to reign in their personal lives – 2 Timothy 3:1-7, 13.
“There is a generation that are pure in their own eyes, and yet is not washed from their filthiness.” Proverbs 30:12
You stated: “I’m speaking from experience” – and that’s the problem. You aren’t speaking as of the oracles of God. You have not repented and do not study and know the Word of God for yourself and this is why you are still in darkness (1 Peter 4:10-11). You don’t speak for Christ.
“STUDY to shew THYSELF approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.” 2 Timothy 2:15
To “earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints” is a divine mandate. And this because “there are certain men (ungodly wolves) crept in unawares (undetected by the blind).”
“Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints. 4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.” Jude 3-4
Apparently, you were so busy judging me for supposedly wrongly judging that you missed the myriad of resources to help you learn God’s Word on the ministry website, such as Bible School modules, Study Guides, Biblical Literacy tests, and well over a thousand other Scripture-rich posts.
IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM with wolves being called out by name, YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH GOD! REPENT NOW BEFORE IT’S TOO LATE! You are still full of self and in darkness (John 3:19-21). You may wish to beware of your collusion and bidding Godspeed to the very enemies of Christ and His cross – which is exactly what you are doing (2 John 7-11). Wolf Defenders
JESUS says there are “MANY false prophets” and you call the Son of God a liar by shunning and ignoring His many warnings of the “ravenous wolves.” (Matthew 7:15; 24:11, 24; 23:1-25, etc.). Oh and Christ inspired His apostles to speak voluminously of this same threat to the sheep of His pasture for which He died. The reason you don’t see this yet Bob is that apparently you are full of yourself – and that’s why we need the cross – something those “enemies of the cross of Christ” you’ve espoused will not mention, much less teach on (Galatians 2:20; 6:14; Colossians 3:3).
You state: “It took me years to recover from what I see you doing here.” Reply: No, apparently, you were being critical and condemning out of your own depraved heart way back then – instead of denying yourself, taking up your cross, and following Jesus – and consequently being full of God’s love to protect the very saints He died to save!
Are you deeply in and studying God’s Word daily? We both know that answer. If not, you’re already backslidden, lukewarm, and ready to be spewed – rejected (Revelation 3:15-16).
THE LORD’S WATCHMEN are obediently on their posts and doing exactly what they are supposed to be doing – warning. “So thou, O son of man, I have set thee a watchman unto the house of Israel; therefore thou shalt hear the word at my mouth, and WARN them from me.” Ezekiel 33:7
Jesus and all of His prophets and holy apostles warned. They were true to the Great Shepherd of His sheep who broods jealously over and protects the sheep of His pasture (Hebrews 13:20).
Bob, when is the last time YOU personally led someone to Jesus?
You claim the wolves whose lies you’ve bought are “seeing people through the eyes of Jesus.” By lying to them?
“But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. 2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. 3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their DAMNATION slumbereth not.” 2 Peter 2:1-3
Bob, it seems obvious that you don’t know and adhere to the very words of Jesus and therefore according to Jesus, are “not of God.” See John 8:47. Instead you follow mere sinful men. This plainly reveals that you are following “another Jesus” and don’t know the Jesus revealed to us in Holy Scripture. See Galatians 1:6-9 and 2 Corinthians 11:2-5.
What my dad did when I was 7? There you go attributing obedience to the LORD to something you made up in your own darkened heart. This is what the Bible calls divination – or conjuring up things. This is further evidence that you “prophesy lies … of the deceit of their own heart;” “How long shall this be in the heart of the prophets that prophesy lies? yea, they are prophets of the deceit of their own heart;” Jeremiah 23:26
“Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded. 9 Be afflicted, and mourn, and weep: let your laughter be turned to mourning, and your joy to heaviness.” James 4:8-9
The LORD is calling you to repentance Bob – to get all the logs out of your own eyes and to cease hypocritically judging others who are actually doing exactly what the Bible tells us true servants of the LORD do.
“Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye.”
Matthew 7:1-5
We ALL need God’s mercy and yet can only receive such when we do things His way and no other way. Hosea 14:1-2
Naming Names: Is it Biblical? Yes or no?
todd
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“No Todd it is not idolatry to study the words of men. We all do it to become educated. It was men (and women) who taught you to speak, read, write, do arithmetic, etc. The men I listed looked at scripture says about predestination and the will of man. They systematically countered the arguments of the men of their days who were making similar arguments to the one you are trying to make. But instead of educating yourself of what the Arguments of Erasmus were and how Luther destroyed them with scripture, or where Calvin elaborated on the arguments of Luther, or how Edwards destroyed the arguments being put forth in his days, you proudly put on display your total lack of understanding of the subject matter. You don’t even understand the positions of these men, whose theology you seek to critique because NONE of them taught that we are like robots, lacking responsibility for our actions. By mischaracterizing a theological position that you clearly don’t understand and have never studied you have created a straw man to argue against.” Bill
REPLY:
Bill, you are an idolater who is either a seminarian or in the least you’ve allowed yourself to be indoctrinated (made a twofold more child of hell) by seminarians wolves. Show just 1 Scripture that even hints that New Testament believers are to be educated in the knowledge of the sinful philosophers and heretical theologians of their day? Waiting ….? “Educated”? Satan educates. You have lived the straw man argument by wasting your time studying mere men and now you defend such vile, diabolical, murderous heretics such as John Calvin. What spirit are you of? The born again disciples of Jesus must know HIS Word and have HIS revelation. Who needs to even know those arguments? Paul warned against such. Knowing the dispersing the truth is what God calls His people to. You are bogged down in the mud of all this nonsense. You’ve wasted God’s time studying the words and beliefs of mere sinful men instead of simply studying God’s Word in the King James Bible. Satan has defeated you in this. You are exactly like Jesus describes the false leaders/pharisees of His day …. He cited them for setting the Word of God aside for their own traditions of mere men (Mark 7:6-9). You have allowed the writings and words of mere sinful men to trump God’s Word. Jesus says that those who are “of God” hear and elevate God’s Word as final authority. You can’t have it both ways and God hates mixture. “Let God be true and EVERY man a liar.” (Romans 3:4) When the LORD says “My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge”, was He speaking of lacking the knowledge and beliefs of the men of that day OR was He speaking of not knowing HIS Word? He answers this question in the very verse: “My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.” (Hosea 4:6)
Total convoluted antichrist mixture coming out of pure rebellion…. claiming to love Christ and yet wasting the time HE gave you on this diabolical mess ….. Satan is laughing. If you knew and believed God’s Word, you’d see this …. He’s calling you to true repentance. When you truly repent, the LORD will instill in you His holy fear and you will study HIS words and not the words and philosophies of mere sinful men. He gave us His Word for this very reason (Deuteronomy 4:10). The LORD Jesus taught that those who are “of God” give heed to and elevate “God’s word,” not man’s (John 8:47).
Historical Fact: Calvin’s doctrines are founded in the antichrist heresies of metaphysics and catholicism …. The pagan philosopher, Aristotle, born in 384 BC, wrote a book he called, Metaphysics. His reasoning concluded that “God can’t feel and can’t change.” This God must be unaffected by anything and unalterable. He is unchanging, for change too would be a weakness and change thus renders Him less than the ultimate God. Aristotle’s God cannot love, cannot suffer and cannot be influenced. Saint Augustine incorporated this philosophy from Plato, Plotinus and Aristotle into his writings which were transferred to John Calvin. Thus Calvin’s doctrine of predestination was born. Calvinism’s Satanic Roots | Seminarian Sacrilege
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“Be careful who you disrespect, disregard or dishonor in the natural realm. You don’t know their RANK in the SPIRIT.”
REPLY:
With all honor, namely to the LORD and His beloved body …. “rank in the Spirit” is nowhere in the Bible. Such a term panders to and fosters pride and is heard in the false prophetic and word of faith movements. In those churches you will find those who tout themselves and not Christ. Their identity is sinful self which they cloak with a facade of spirituality. But Jesus says simply “But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren.
9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.
10 Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ.
11 But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant.
12 And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted.” Matthew 23:8-12
See also Philippians 2:3-5 and Colossians 3:3 and Galatians 2:20.
ASSAILED:
In defense of a “pastor” who truly manifested his blindness and false doctrine, one here came at me with how “fine and loving” the rebuked wolf is and how he’d visited his church, etc.
REPLY:
There are many “fine, loving” devils posing as Christ’s representatives who are wolves in sheep’s clothing as Jesus warned repeatedly (Matthew 7:15; 24, 11, 24). Catholic priests and mormon priests are “fine, loving” men who are not of God and leading many to eternal damnation! Prov 14:12 … Sounds like you need to repent and get into God’s Word, crying out to Him to bless you to be possessed with the holy fear of the LORD.
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“Be careful who you disrespect, disregard or dishonor in the natural realm. You don’t know their RANK in the SPIRIT.”
REPLY:
With all honor, namely to the LORD and His beloved body …. “rank in the Spirit” is nowhere in the Bible. Such a term panders to and fosters pride and is heard in the false prophetic and word of faith movements. In those churches you will find those who tout themselves and not Christ. Their identity is sinful self which they cloak with a veneer of spirituality. But Jesus says simply “But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren. 9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven. 10 Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ. 11 But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant. 12 And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted.” Matthew 23:8-12
See also Philippians 2:3-5 and Colossians 3:3 and Galatians 2:20.
Question Received:
“Is it wrong Todd to drive a nice car and live in a nice house. Is that wrong when the Lord has actually blessed you with these things though they do not move you or hold your trust.”
Reply:
Is it wrong to keep money from those in need and God’s work while you lavish yourself in this fleeting sinful world? That’s the Gospel question, right. Isn’t this exactly what the once “rich men” did before dying and being sent irrevocably to hell? (Luke 16:19-31) You mention nothing of being “rich toward God” instead of self (Luke 12:15-21). You mention nothing of using this world’s riches to reach others (Deuteronomy 8:18). Your question could have just as easily been a statement such as: “Praise God for the ability to earn and help others and further the message of the Gospel of Jesus!” This reveals that your affections are on the things of this world and not on Christ! (Colossians 3:1-4). God is calling you to repentance and to truly lay down your life. When you do, you will be enthralled in the Great commission Jesus gave and not making excuses for getting stuff for self in this world. “Minding earthly things” is a characteristic of those who are “enemies of the cross of Christ” “whose god is their belly” (carnal appetites). Read Philippians 3:18-19.
Question Received:
“Todd: My church is heavily involved in the book, “Not a Fan”, by Kyle Idelman (sp) to the point they study it in the worship service on Sun. morning and Bible studies on Sun. night and Wed. night. Everyone is simply “gaga” over it and the author. This has been going on for the past 6-8 weeks and they don’t plan to end it anytime soon. I plan to stay away & attend another church until it’s over. I feel like they are putting this book over the Bible, and its author before God, and it makes me feel resentful because of it. Please tell me if you think I am wrong and should just put my feelings aside and let it go. Thank you.” Donna
Reply:
No, you are being alerted by the Holy Spirit sounds like sister. There’s something fundamentally wrong about using that time together as a body going through a mere man’s book. Yes typical apostate modern church scenario here sister. Isn’t it interesting that these counterfeits never go through one of the 66 glorious books of the canon of Holy Scripture and yet they are going through a mere man’s book? Can nearly guarantee it’s not Scripture rich ….. remember Lk 6:26 …. whenever people get gaga over men, it’s usually because they are false.
Question Received:
“So, I’ve been reading your site. I have some questions. What is your on gay rights? Abortion? and most especially, how do you feel about Catholics and Catholic priests?” Therese
Reply:
“Hi Therese.
Well as a born again Bible believer ….. all 3 of these items are addressed on the ministry site.
- Sodomy / homosexuality is sin
- Abortion is murder and sin
- The catholic church is antichrist – a works based, Christ-denying cult
Also, there is a CATEGORY drop-down menu and a SEARCH box on this site.
Message Received:
“In the Bible, there are several verses to identify false pastors, why you do not quote in your opinion about the writings of Charles G. Finney? Why you do not expose false pastor like Benny Hinn, Joel Osteen, Joyce Meyer and others?”
Reply:
Hello. Thanks for your email. There is a SEARCH box and also a CATEGORY drop down menu on this site. Check these out concerning your email:
todd
Message Received:
“Does true Christianity exist?…’When the Son of Man comes, shall He find faith on earth’?…What did Jesus mean by that statement? Especially in today’s modern world where everyone is ‘knowledgeable’ of biblical ‘truth,’ and there are so many claiming to be ‘born again.’ Perhaps our faith is bogus and we worship a pseudo God, one that we project that suits our way of thinking and being. Maybe, we should all analyze and examine ourselves. Because if Jesus knew beyond the shadow of a doubt that there would be one single person truly waiting for Him in true Godly faith, He would not have made that statement!” Josh
Reply:
Hi Josh. Obviously Jesus WILL have a remnant of true saints to come back for, otherwise He would never have promised such so many times (1 Thess. 4:16-18; James 5:7-9; Christ called His people a “little flock” and so we know He has a flock (Luke 12:32) …. who are His sheep, hear His voice, and follow Him (John 10:1-10). There will be those on His RIGHT hand, received when He returns with a glorious “Well done my good and faithful servant!” (Matthew 25). There are those in Revelation 6 who are the souls of the redeemed who are under the altar in Heaven. The full counsel of Scripture refutes this idea that Jesus will return for no one. He told us that His Bride is making itself ready to meet Him and so this again tells us that He has people (Revelation 19:7-8, etc.).
Message Received:
“How do you know if a person is Catholic that they are not born again. I think God can only make the decision who goes to hell.”
Reply:
Hi. There’s no such thing as an idolater who is saved. Read Rev. 21:8. Can a mormon, JW, or muslim be born again? No. No born again believer would be partaking with doctrines of devils. “Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: ye cannot be partakers of the Lord’s table, and of the table of devils.” 1 Cor. 10:21 ….. as an ex-catholic, I know exactly what false gospel they preach. It’s nowhere near the original Gospel of the grace of God in Christ. It’s a false, works-based cult.
Message Received (Wolf Defender Rebuked!):
“Don’t judge Pastors that you don’t know, GOD called him (John Piper) 45 years ago. Take a look at your own life. If you can’t say anything good, say nothing at all.” Francois Du Plessis
Reply:
Deception. The Bible never says If you can’t say anything good, say nothing at all.” In fact, one does good to say the bad truth about people who are leading others to hell. We don’t know them? Nonsense. We all know them by the fruit of their doctrine (Matt. 7:13-20). Piper is a calvinist which means he’s a false teacher at best. ….. The Bible mandates that God’s people, especially men, be not spineless but rather mark and expose false teachers in order to protect Christ’s flock. The true body is busy teaching discernment (Ezek. 44:23) and earnestly contending for the faith once delivered to the saints (Jude 3-4). It’s time to judge your own heart, to repent, and get right with God before it’s too late. Any person who comes to the aid of a known wolf is bidding Godspeed to that enemy of Christ and will judged with that person (2 John 10-11). John Piper: Satanic High Priest of
Indoctrination and Initiation into the Cult of Calvin
Message Received:
“But some leaders may be teaching falsely, even slightly but we shouldn’t judge their motives.”
Reply:
“My brethren, be not many masters, knowing that we shall receive the greater condemnation.” James 3:1
Yes if someone is teaching “another gospel” they are “accursed” as false teachers period …. it doesn’t at all matter about their motives….. Their doctrine is not from Scripture, which if nothing else, all they’d have to do is simply read pure Scripture – straight from God’s written Word, period. Yet, they are choosing to buy into false systems of theology, movements, camps, and other notions and philosophies that did not come from the words of Holy Scripture (2 Timothy 2:15; 3:16-17, etc.). We all have a Bible and so have no excuse and as teachers are more accountable …. because if we teach anything but according to the Word, we are misleading others, are accursed, and there is no light in us (Gal. 1:6-9; Is. 8:20, etc.).
Message Received:
“Sad, Some people make a career out of bashing the ministers of the Gospel. Wish they would concentrate more on preaching the Goodness of the Gospel than accusing the ones who are doing. Pharisee spirit at work. The great Accuser.”
Reply:
So, you are saying that obeying God’s mandate to expose wolves who pose as leaders of His sheep is the work of a pharisee? chapters and verses please … Joshua, you need to get a life in the Word of God and own the personal, God given responsibility to watch over His flock. It’s time to repent and grow up into Christ and cease these little lame smokescreens … which usually come out of self-serving motives, you know, those unrepentant evil motives of greed etc that cause people to migrate to these wolves who feed those lusts? …. “false prophets and false teachers ….They allure through the lusts of the flesh …” Read 2 Peter 2 and Acts 20:29-32 and ask God to forgive you for having to concern for the flock Jesus bled to save and for seeking to cover and protect the very enemies of Christ (2 John 7-11).
What does Jude 3-4 tell true believers?
How about Rom. 16:17-18?
Was Paul the apostle a pharisee? See Acts 13:10
So, all “ministers” are God’s just because they wear sheep’s clothing (pose as such)? – 2 Corinthians 11:12-15 says: “But what I do, that I will do, that I may cut off occasion from them which desire occasion; that wherein they glory, they may be found even as we.
13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. 14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. 15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works. Are true Christians to Defend or Expose False Teachings and False Leaders?
Message Received:
“(Concerning mega churches) Let people learn, they like to go to big churches, and conferences, until they can see deeper in Christ, and have a deeper walk with the Lord then they won’t need big events to please them cause they will have Christ in a deeper level in their life that will please them all the time, with or without other people in their life. It takes time Todd. Many call on the name of the Lord, but to walk with the Lord in a deeper spiritual way, they need the internal walk with the Lord not the external. The external walk with the Lord will lead them to mega churches, we can only pray for them to see and know what God truly wants for them.”
Reply:
Hi. Thank you for dialoguing. If the LORD has saved them, He is still working in them to bring about an abiding, fruit-bearing fellowship with Him (John 15). When they are blessed with such they will see that they do not need those conferences or churches, hoopla, and the fanfare of it all which draws attention away from their LORD and Savior. The goal of those church businesses is to make themselves an essential component in their lives. That’s why they are constantly pointing people to their classes, groups, and programs instead of pointing them to Christ alone. They constantly drop innuendoes – to brand themselves. The spirit of antichrist is behind such a displacement of Christ as “Head” of each individual saint and His body at large. Colossians 2 nails this down hard. Anti simply means “in place of” and so this is the reason I speak freely to identify these placebo churches as antichrist – due to their incessant branding, programs, and membership drives (which is not at all biblical and displaces the blood bought membership we have in the one body of Christ). See Ephesians 4; 1 Corinthians 12).
Question Received:
“Could it be that those supporting the prosperity preachers are lost souls now who once knew Christ?”
Reply:
Hello brother. Read 2 Tim. 4:3-4 and 2 Thess. 2:10-12 and you will have God’s answer to this …. oh and also 2 Tim 3:1-7 and notice these are not rank heathen but rather those within the professing church who actually had a “form of godliness” …. when people are deceived, especially those whom Jesus once saved, they are willingly deceived … we know that because He gave us a Bible so we would know His truth/way and not be misled by beguilers who are making merchandise of the willingly deceived within the modern church world (2 Peter. 2:1-3, 17). Those who follow mere sinful men instead of following Christ by sitting at His feet daily and drinking in His Word, prove their hearts have departed from the LORD (Hebrews 3:12-15).
Message Received:
“I used to tithe to Joel Osteen until the veil was lifted from my eyes! … I grew to really like Charles Stanley, have been tithing to his church! There’s no one left in my eyes! I have been so very disappointed with churches that I have stopped going! .. So I have been reading my Bible and watching Charles Stanley on TV! .. Now I will read my Bible & look up to Jesus!” Charles Stanley Exposed
Reply:
Precious sister, this all proves and clearly demonstrates that God’s hand is upon you, His daughter. He is calling His true followers outside the apostate local churches which are nearly invariably run by false leaders. There are 2 books on this topic and many posts on the ministry website SafeGuardYourSoul.com …. I want to also encourage you to continue to obey the LORD with your giving. That’s a good thing and He will direct you as to where there is fertile ground in a New Testament ministry(ies) … which are known by their obedience in carrying out the Great Commission mandate He gave us. Praying for you sister.
Message Received from Osteen Defender:
“Let he is who is without sin……….” B. (This person was wanting true disciples who were exposing Osteen for the wolf to back off and to cease obeying the Gospel mandate to expose Christ’s enemies.)
Reply:
Hi B. Actually it’s a sin with severe consequences to refuse to mark false teachers who are leading people to eternal damnation. Those who do so receive the same eternal reward as the enemy of Christ they defend. Read 2 John 7-11; Jude 3-4, and Romans 16:17-18. It is a divine mandate to “earnestly contend for the faith once delivered to the saints” (2 Timothy 4:2-4). The LORD is calling you to true repentance and when that happens, you will get into the whole counsel of God’s Word and live an authentic New Testament life (2 Timothy 2:15). Jesus calls us to die and as we do we have the promise of living or having our BEST LIFE for eternity not now. Paul says that only the “enemies of the cross of Christ” would teach such (Philippians 3:18-21). Please view this: Beware of the Wolf Defenders
Connie Long writes:
“Those who listen to him, and the many more like him, get very ugly and downright angry when you try to show them through God’s Word, their idol is a wolf in sheep’s clothing. They don’t like you throwing truth bombs in their, “positive possibility, me, my and I, all about me gospel.” These are those who profess Christ, but do not possess Christ, they know about Christ, but do not know Christ. They do not believe that they must take up their cross and die daily, they do not believe that Christ is Lord of all or He is not Lord at all…”
Ray Zeitler notes:
“2 John was one of the biggest revelations the Lord led me to. Am I accepting of sin to the point that I willingly want to accept the sin of false teachers? To have a portion of that sin laid on my debt that Jesus paid? Even though I personally did not commit their sin, I accept a part of it like I committed it… Even the act of bidding them Godspeed, or welcoming them into our home is sinful… I would rather concentrate on my repenting from my sins, living a holy life and not have to worry about the sins of another being laid at my feet..”
Lorin Richman writes:
“Another one they always use out of context is, “touch not God’s anointed!”, not realizing that false teachers ARE NOT God’s anointed, but rather His believers are because we are in Jesus and He is in us.”
Message Received:
“The world hates Christians because they’re so irrational!” (from a professing Christian)
Reply:
Jesus told us that because we are truly His, the world would hate us…. “Ye shall be hated by all men for my name’s sake.” (Matthew 10:22) And “The world cannot hate you; but me it hateth, because I testify of it, that the works thereof are evil.” John 7:7 etc. So yes true disciples of Jesus are hated, not because they are irrational but simply because they are Christ’s! 2 Timothy 3:12
Message Received:
“Oh my you are so judgmental and damning…not what a Christian should be….if I were you I would think about what I was saying about God’s people…it’s not about what we believe or are taught to believe but what Jesus did….and we cannot add or take away from that…that is why I left the church….the only thing blasphemous to God is cursing His creation…and saying what you believe is right and acting like this…..Paul said he was a chief sinner because of his killing the first Christians but he did it in innocence because he thought he was doing good for God…..if you think this is doing good for Him….it’s not.”
Reply:
Hi Regina. I am in no way moved or angry at what you stated here. It’s interesting how you openly condemn me while claiming I am being condemning. Have you ever read Matthew 7:1-6 and Romans 2:1-3?
The Catholic religion is damning the souls of millions and you are defending this enemy of the LORD Jesus Christ while claiming to be loving. The Bible is the final authority – it’s the very Word of God – and it states that we have “ALL sinned” and are fully guilty before the very Judge of our eternal souls (Romans 3:10, 23). God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son and not some self and Satanically appointed, blasphemous, phony, pagan religion out of Rome that claims to have exclusive rights to offer the sacrifice Jesus single-handedly came to provide. This same Son of God who bled and rose again to save us, also commanded – “Ye MUST be born again” to enter His eternal family and kingdom (John 3:3, 7). “For by grace (unmerited favor) are ye saved through faith and that not of yourself; It is the gift of God; not of works lest any man should boast.” (Ephesians 2:8-9)
Message Received:
“Todd, I read this a couple of times today, and it lists just about everybody out there…even Smith Wigglesworth and Lester Sumrall…so I’m wondering who and I mean who out there is teaching sound doctrine/pure truth…I’ve caught a preacher named Mel Bond a few times, watched “Gospel Truth by Andrew Womack” which builds faith and humbles…..we are all men and all fall short and not one seeketh, not one understands everything…. I sat back in the early 80’s under a man named Hobart Freeman whose church was Faith Assembly in Northern Indiana…a solid faith teacher but boy things went bad (google his name) and left many if not all confused when it deteriorated….and Freeman never pointed to himself, always exhorted to get in the Word…so I left and wandered not becoming a worldly sinful man but always tried to remain transparent before God…so here I am today, got a Bible and am seeking God, by grace walking in Rom 12:1-3 but it’s very difficult to discern some of what’s happening out there today…thanks for listening and always encouraging… Plan on supporting your ministry but having a financial trial currently.” Tom
Reply:
Well, as you pointed out, we have God’s Word in the King James Bible and because of this we can have pure fellowship with Him without the tainting of mere men. Lester Sumrall and Andrew Womack are WOF/Word of Faith which means they are false and aligned with known false doctrine and false teachers (Ezekiel 22:25-27). Or, at best people like this are in great danger. I go with the former. Yes there is no perfect, sinless vessel and even Paul had to be checked out/tested by the Bereans (Acts 17:10-11). There’s a spirit that will come on any of us if we fellowship with wolves, no matter how innocent it may seem. I’m talking about blatant false teachers and/or those who align themselves with them such as WOF beguilers. Regrettably, the vast majority of men in ministry are branding in the minds of their audiences their ministry, not Christ and His cross. They are perpetually selling or branding their own names and ministries (Colossians 2:6-10, 18-19). I will lift you in prayer brother right now. Feel free to call sometime brother Tom. During day is best 214-425-8398.
Message Received:
“We must not judge but love and pray for others and not expose them. It is not our job to judge…it is our job to pray for them…if you see wrong in them pray for them….these things are not of God…because God says to pray for our enemies not destroy our enemies…where is your heart? Leave everything to God…yes it is true we need to be careful & be warned of false prophets but also we need to be warned of how we preach & judge others or God’s Word! Surely I say to you…I forgive you because even among wolves God is there to save me….my love for God is very far instinct from yours….& my faith in him is very far greater than yours…..cause you do not know my heart….this what God made me to be….His fruit of His love & through that fruit I shall continue to grow…..by your own means seek in your heart…in what I believe in….but my heart seeks the love of God..” Christina
Reply:
Identifying and marking “them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine” of the LORD, is to be a regular part of the Christian life. In an hour when the proliferation of false teaching is mutating at an increasingly exponential rate, those who love the LORD must examine and test everything against the final authority of the recorded oracles of God (Acts 17:11). The following warning enlightens us to understand this:
“Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.” Colossians 2:8
Christina, did you know that Jesus instructed us to “judge righteous judgment” and in this case He obviously counted the judgment of His disciples to be unrighteous instead of righteous (Jn. 7:24).
I suggest that you yourself stop judging those who are judging righteous judgment as Jesus commanded His true people to do (John 7:24).
Where’s the Scripture Christina? Where did God ever tell us to pray for wolves? Did He not mandate that we expose them so that their prey would not be deceived and go to hell? Chapters and verses please?
Acts 20:27-32 is truly key to seeing the apostolic faith and how it and those saved by that original Gospel are to be safeguarded against the enemy’s wolves. Also Philippians 1:17 and Jude 3-4. If you name the name of Jesus Christ, please study these passages prayerfully and carefully.
Is it Biblical to Mark False Teachers?
Millions are being taught by the wolves who have deceived them not to expose them. I was personally taught by the wolves who deceived me not to ever speak a word against them. They were covering their tracks by using Scripture out of context to their own self-serving advantage (Philippians 3:18-19).
What does the Bible tell us to do about false leaders who are misleading others? “Mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.” Romans 16:17
We are commanded to never endorse or help in any way those who do not preach strictly God’s Word, which is “the doctrine of Christ”:
“For MANY DECEIVERS are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist. 8 Look to yourselves (take personal responsibility to earnestly contend for the truth), that we lose not those things which we have wrought, but that we receive a full reward. 9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth (remains) not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth (continues) in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. 10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: 11 For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.” 2 John 7-11
You are defending the right of the very enemies of the One you claim to be serving to mislead precious sheep whom Jesus bled to save …. and claiming it’s love. This is delusional.
It sure IS IS IS our job to judge – The Son of God says “JUDGE righteous judgment.” John 7:24 …. Now who’s lying – Christ or Christina?
Christina, the hatred for Christ in your heart is manifesting ….. you are fighting for and defending His very enemies. How would you feel if your own family member who you thought loved you, went to war to fight for and defend someone who was your sworn enemy? That’s betrayal isn’t it? And yet you seek to dress it up as love. But the Bible declares: “Open rebuke is better than secret love.
6 Faithful are the wounds of a friend; but the kisses of an enemy are deceitful.” (Prov. 27:5-6)
How does the LORD feel that you claim to love Him while ignoring His words and fighting to defend His enemies that are destroying the people He came and died to save on that cross?
Jesus says “Out of the abundance of the HEART the mouth speaketh.” (Matt. 12:34) Your heart is manifested openly by your own words and thoughts which you have penned here. So we do know your heart.
Message Received:
“Wow! Have any of you listened to the message they preach? Joel Osteen says at the end of every sermon to find a Bible based church, he does not say buy my book. Joseph Prince does in fact preach the gospel and better than any pastor I have ever heard. Are you all that shocked that God’s blessings on these men’s lives can be so great? Yes they sell books, that’s where they get their money, not from the flocks of blind sheep you assume are sending them piles of cash every week. Actually watch a sermon or show just once… many have come to faith in Christ Jesus because of those 2 men sharing the gospel. Is this not God’s will???? To share the message, to feed the poor? Please feel free to contact them and find out exactly what ministry outreaches they are involved in. Also maybe ask Father God what his opinion is on pastors who speak biblical truths… Sounds like a spirit of envy to me. Does it bother you that God has blessed them? May God bless you and keep you on the path… do not pray for me! Do not! In fact I rebuke any prayers you have sent my way for me or my family. I am blessed enough already! Father God leads me and I will not condemn those who speak truths. James 4:11 Speak not evil one of another, brethren. He that speaketh evil of his brother, and judgeth his brother, speaketh evil of the law, and judgeth the law: but if thou judge the law, thou art not a doer of the law, but a judge. 12 There is one lawgiver, who is able to save and destroy: who art though that judgest another? What was the commandment Jesus added? To love one another…” Michelle
Reply:
Hi Michelle. Osteen never preaches God’s Word or the original Gospel. “God’s blessings on these men’s lives”? I guess the Muslims, Catholics, JWs, and Mormons are “blessed by God” too because they have much more wealth than these false teachers. They sell their books that contain anything but the original Gospel ….and make millions. Books aren’t a sin, what’s in them and/or what’s not in them is what matters. These men are selling their lies and have become multimillionaires doing so. God has shown us in His Word what He thinks of these greedy wolves Michelle (2 Peter 2:1-3, etc.). Joel Osteen Exposed
“Sounds like a spirit of envy to me. Does it bother you that God has blessed them? May God bless you and keep you on the path… do not pray for me! Do not! In fact I rebuke any prayers you have sent my way for me or my family. I am blessed enough already! Father God leads me and I will not condemn those who speak truths.”
You are now judging everyone on this post who are discerning believers and that’s okay? Isn’t that hypocritical? You are judging/condemning me and/or the others who see these wolves for who they are while saying we’re wrongly discerning/judging. The Bible tells us that if we bid Godspeed (endorse or defend) false prophets who are the very enemies of Christ, we will be judged with them…. —- WOLF WORSHIPERS: BEWARE of the Wolf Defenders … Truth-Despising, Wolf-Protecting, Devil-Defending Agents of Satan
—— SUPPORTING WOLVES (Christ’s very subverting enemies) will land you in hell with them according to God’s Word. https://safeguardyoursoul.com//wolf-protectors/
So far, instead of dealing with this biblical issue from Scripture, you have resorted to personal attack, condemning others who would dare tamper with your idol wolves ….
You are sadly deceived if you think Father God is leading you to defend those He told us are false and His very enemies …. God is calling you to come to Jesus in repentance and to truly get into His Word without the influence of mere sinful men whom you have trusted and made idols of ….covetousness and greed and loving your life in this world may be the roots … God’s Word warns us …. “But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. 2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. 3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.” 2 Peter 2:1-3
Judging or discerning false prophets by the fruit of their doctrines and ministries is not what James wrote about here. No, he was speaking of the true body of Christ of which wolves operating in our midst are not a part. So, this does not apply. They are not “brethren.” Jesus commanded us to “Judge righteous judgment.” (John 7:24) Jude wrote: “Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints. 4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.” Jude 3-4
Notice Michelle is a classic wolf worshiper. She says nothing of worship to the LORD Jesus but will fight to the death to defend obvious wolves who are the enemies of Jesus Christ. She has no hesitation in condemning me and perhaps others here while she simultaneously judges us for exposing those who have lied to her and captured her soul for satan himself. Unreal blindness and hypocrisy.
Message Received/Answered:
BERNICE: Hey, can you discern if someone is prophesying falsely?
TODD: Usually yes. 2 Peter 1:20-21 tells us that “the more sure word of prophecy” is the Holy Scriptures
BERNICE: Ok, The prophecy about tsunami or about the blood moon or the ww3 are they though?
TODD: most of that stuff is very misleading at best …. and hasn’t come to pass when they said it would …. I would stay clear of Francis Chan, Perry Stone, and John Hagee.
Some of the latest radio shows have dealt with this very thing … go here and scroll down, OK? | Podcasts
Message Received:
(defending Sunday morning and modern church membership) “Do not forsake the assembling of yourselves.” Crystal
Reply:
Hi Crystal …. yes we’ve addressed that passage many times (Heb. 10:24-25)…. that says nothing of going to a church building on Sundays at a certain time and this being what’s important to Christ. In fact the earliest believers met house to house daily amen … Acts 2:42-27 … they simply could not get enough of Jesus who ordered us to serve Him “daily” and not weekly … many pastors use Heb. 10:24-25 in the wrong way …. yes Sunday is a great day to fellowship and I do it myself and yet, we must not limit this fellowship to Sunday mornings … in fact, check out the “daily” aspect of Hebrews 3:13 – “But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin.” We need Jesus “daily” and not weekly. The word weekly never appears in Scripture but “daily” appears in the New Testament Scriptures 22 times. Some pastors are building a business and they want people to associate their so called church building and church business with serving God which is wrong.
QUESTION RECEIVED:
“Are ‘Godspeed’ and God bless you’ the same? When we hear someone say “God bless you” to an unsaved soul it means ‘that’ person saying “God bless you” is partaker in their evil deeds according to Scripture. Thank you brother Todd for being so diligent in sharing HIS Word. Glory to Father YHWH!” Darlene T.
REPLY:
Hi Darlene. “Godspeed” is blessing or supporting the ministry or minister who is teaching falsehood whom the LORD tells us is “accursed.” (Galatians 1:6-9). In the context of 2 John 7-11, it’s not just an unsaved person John is speaking of, it’s someone who is peddling falsehoods, false teachings and misleading others which is a whole different thing. That person has become the very enemy of the LORD (2 Chronicles 19:2; Philippians 3:18-19). Saying “God bless you” to a lost soul is a good thing. Jesus told us that the Father blesses all – both the evil and the good and that we should have the same mindset/perspective toward them because God is “not willing that any should perish.” (Matthew 5:44-48; 2 Peter 3:9) When I say “God bless you” to a lost soul what I mean is that God did bless them and myself and all men when He sent Christ and my intention is to help lead them to Him.
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“I stopped attending service now in our church… My Pastor said that Baptist is the true church of Christ because it was started and it originated from John the Baptist…well I did believe it until I found out the real truth in you…” E.
REPLY:
Jesus Christ is the only Foundation and Chief Cornerstone of the true body of Christ, His Church – His blood bought, presently abiding people! (1 Peter 2; Corinthians 3:11, etc.). Satan’s job, and his human helpers’ (false leaders’) is to seduce and spoil you of this reward, even Christ Himself, by drawing your attention away from Christ our LORD to anything else. Read Colossians 1-2.
“For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.” 1 Corinthians 3:11
“He is the Rock, his work is perfect: for all his ways are judgment: a God of truth and without iniquity, just and right is he.” Deuteronomy 32:4
“Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD, Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone, a tried stone, a precious corner stone, a sure foundation: he that believeth shall not make haste.” Isaiah 28:16
1 Peter 2
“As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby:
1Pe 2:3 If so be ye have tasted that the Lord is gracious.
1Pe 2:4 To whom coming, as unto a living stone, disallowed indeed of men, but chosen of God, and precious,
1Pe 2:5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.
1Pe 2:6 Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded.
1Pe 2:7 Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner,
1Pe 2:8 And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed.
1Pe 2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvelous light:” … May your study of Jesus Christ deepen …. here’s some help Colossal Colossians!
INTERACTION:
“Thanks for your phone number, I will call sometime…back in the 80’s I sat under the teachings of a minister named Hobart Freeman, it seemed to be very sound doctrine but things fell apart so I’ve been kind of a loner biblically but believing to belong to a group of strong believers that don’t follow the status quo of today’s ear tickling ministers.” Tom S.
REPLY:
Well that may be the best place to be brother … we learn so many false and fake ways amidst the apostate modern church world…. God has to pull us out, if we are listening to Him … to “come out from among them and be ye separate” and that involves stopping going to and being influenced by them …. they are following each other and not Christ … for generations.
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