Beware of the Scripture Twisting Jezebels [podcast]
The name Jezebel is spelled in Hebrew as “LYZEBEL” and it means “Baal exalts, un-husbanded one, without cohabitation and unchaste.” This spirit hates authority, despises correction, hates being subjected to authority and loves attention.
Some today attempt to use the following passage to justify women being elders, overseers in the body of Christ.
“And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams: 18 And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:” Acts 2:17-18
Notice women can prophesy, and proclaim the Gospel and yet are not called to preach to men.
This passage above in Acts 2 in no way negates the clear declaration of the LORD that only men can be elders in His body. Yes, like the woman at the well, women can preach the Gospel and do many other ministries which we see them doing in the New Testament canon. Yet, in the case of eldership, being an overseer to His body, one of the qualifications is that such a person must be “the HUSBAND of one wife” which no woman could possibly be (1 Timothy 3:2).
So does God pour out His Holy Spirit on women in order to get them to do something He forbid them to do – to assume a place of leadership over men in the church (or home)? No.
Jezebel is alive and well and on her way to hell!
“What about Deborah?!”
“Using Deborah to justify jezebel is rebellion.
Pure and simple.
I’ve made posts in the past debunking the mantle/template of Deborah for women in the New Testament.
She was an Old Testament exception and not the New Testament standard!
And all the women in the New Testament never took authority positions in the church.
Faulty translations have lead many to believe these lies.
It’s always been PATRIARCHY and by extension POLYGYNY for God’s hierarchy and divine design 
” Vincent Roccagli
So many ungrounded people are functioning on pure human reasoning and rejection of the clear Word of God. This reveals that there is no cross in their daily lives which Jesus says is essential to following Him (Luke 9:23-24). The LORD foretold of the great falling away and women preachers are part of that (2 Thessalonians 2; 1 Timothy 4:1-2; 2 Timothy 3:1-7, etc.).
Please explain why you claim God changed, or why He didn’t mean what He stated here:
“Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. 12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.” 1 Timothy 2:11-12
Has God changed or are you deceived? It has to be one or the other and it’s obvious that you are deceived. This is part of the reason women are not ordained by God to lead the general body of Christ. As was the case with Eve, they are easily deceived as the “weaker vessel” (1 Peter 3:1-7). Any person who believes women can be preachers or elders in Christ’s body is not a student of Scripture and is not a broken, humble, crucified disciple.
The fact that the LORD fills someone with His Spirit in this last hour is to testify of Christ and His saving grace but never to act outside of His stated roles for men and women. This is why she can stare the Word of God in the face and reject it (Mark 7:6-10; John 8:47; Proverbs 13:13).
“For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.” 1 Corinthians 14:33
—- There are NO female apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors, or teachers under the New Testament (Ephesians 4:8, 11-12). Jesus gave these “gifts unto MEN” (Ephesians 4:8). There is not even one women mentioned in 27 books as an elder over Christ’s flock. Such is clearly forbidden (1 Timothy 2:11-12). In Acts 21:9 we read of Phillip’s daughters which “did prophesy” which is a gift of the Spirit (one of the nine-1 Corinthians 12:7-10). The office gifts are eldership functions for men called to be overseers over Christ’s flock, which is completely different than the gifts of the Spirit which every believer can function in and certainly women are seen doing such as Phillip’s daughters and how women are mentioned concerning operating in the gifts of the Spirit in 1 Corinthians 14.
“Jezebel is a widely rampant spirit of rebellion that is hard to get rid of, rooted in pride, self-will, and self-sufficiency. Only the LORD can deliver but only if the individual truly repents and submits to Him, to His Word.” Anita Villarreal
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“God has used women since forever. Deborah was one of the judges in Isreal. A strong leader full of courage. The woman at the well after Jesus spoke to her ran and evangelized and told everyone of what Christ knew and did for her. The first to witness Jesus’ resurrection were women and they witnessed to the men. Lydia was one of the first believers among the Europeans and became a witness in her region.God has used many women..(Esther, Ruth, Hannah, Mary, Priscilla..etc) God can use men and women. All he needs is a willing heart, fully surrendered and that loves God with all their heart, soul and strength. Lets humble ourselves and let God use whom he pleases and ask for conviction from the Holy Spirit to open our eyes. Lett us not let this divide Christ’s body but let us seek for the truth through the word and Holy Spirit.” Evelyn
REPLY:
Lame defense Evelyn. This is human reasoning while you reject Scripture that expressly forbids women from being elders in the body of Christ. You are living by your emotions and not the truth and this is exactly why God forbids women from being elders in His body. God has used woman since the beginning, no doubt and yet, not to be elders among His people. God’s Word debunks your misuse of Scripture. The question at hand, being specifically discussed, is whether or not a woman can preach to men or be an elder. No. God specifically forbids women from being an elder in the body of Christ or preaching to men. 1 Timothy 2:11-12; 3:2. No woman can possibly be “the HUSBAND of one wife” which means all women are disqualified from being an elder in the body of Christ (1 Timothy 3:2). Case closed. Repent now. Notice how Evelyn conveniently forgets to mention that of the 12 apostles of Jesus, they are all men. Not 1 woman. Notice how the New Testament Scriptures show not even one woman acting as an elder in Christ’s body other than when Jesus sternly rebuked the church at Thyatira for allowing a woman to act as an elder (Revelation 2:20-24).
Recently I watched a short video of a jezebel who was twisting Scripture to seek to justify women being in the place of an elder in the body of Christ and preaching to men – both specifically and non-negotiably forbidden by God (1 Timothy 2:11-12; Revelation 2:20-24).
The counterfeits who push the idea, the jezebel doctrine that women can teach and preside over men are absolutely false and it’s astounding what lengths they will go to in order to twist the plain and clear reading of Holy Scripture. Manipulating the Greek to get the desired result is an age old trick of wolves.
It was very obvious to notice how this jezebel, this liar has demons. The dilation of her eyes and her facial expressions were clues (Hebrews 5:14). Her unnatural facial contortions made it obvious that she sought to manipulate her audience to buy that lie instead of simply speaking the truth of God in peace (James 3:18). She and the demons in her are seeking to manipulate the women listening to her, to convince them of this lie.
Beware saints.
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“I mean God created Men & Women to be equal partners and to always respect each other not to be sexist. It seems like you might have a problem with women in authority Todd, you should probably pray about that. Also there were women in the Bible that preached.”
REPLY:
No such thing as a woman pastor. “Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.” 1 Timothy 2:11-12
The elder in Christ’s body must be “the HUSBAND of one wife” which no woman could possibly be (1 Timothy 3:2).
God created the male and the female to fulfill specific roles and defined them in His Word. There is no female elder in the church anywhere in the NT. The men of Thyatira were rebuked for allowing a self-proclaimed “prophetess” named Jezebel to function outside the role of a woman in the church setting. Rev 2:20-24 ….. you must go deeper on the topic for yourself in God’s Word and cease following false teachers. Do you have a problem with male leadership? …. being biblical doesn’t mean someone has a problem with authority… it proves they are following God’s authority which is His written Word and not false teachers.
Also, I just caught this that you said: “Was it not Paul himself who said that not “God”? Wow. Friend, God is calling you to repent and walk in the light of His truth before it’s too late. You presently possess soul damning heresies. The Word of God was given to us by the Holy Spirit via the human writers, “holy men of God” …. it’s all GOD’s Word…. it is astounding the lengths counterfeits will go to in order to manipulate God’s Word in order to carry out their own rebellion.
“We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts: 20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. 21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.” 2 Peter 1:19-21
“All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.” 2 Timothy 3:16-17
DID JESUS address Jezebel and the lame men who allowed her to function in the church? YES He did! (Revelation 2:20-24) It’s time to become enlightened and biblical!
Again…. “But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.” 1 Timothy 2:12
You know you are dealing with a counterfeit when they can read these CLEAR as crystal words and not repent. Have you no fear of God and are unrepentant. The authentic disciple of Jesus will always humble themselves and repent and be corrected by the Word of God – and that’s why He gave it to us (2 Timothy 3:16-17).
To a woman who was engaging a man in a Bible debate, I privately sent the following message:
“Even when you may be Scripturally correct, it doesn’t seem appropriate for a woman to be correcting a man. This is out of God’s order and something we never once see happening in the New Testament church, canon – where a woman corrects a man. That is God’s place which takes the responsibility off of the woman, and should be a relief. Read 1 Timothy 2:11-12 afresh. For now I am going to delete that conversation due to it being out of order. No offense taken here. Just wanting to make sure we, as God’s people, operate according to His stated order. Let’s let the men correct the men, just as we see in Scripture. The only instance we have of a woman exercising authority over men in the Bible, is with Jezebel in Thyatira. And such only happened when weak moral coward men allowed such, which is the focus of Jesus’ rebuke in the church of Thyatira (Revelation 2:20-24).”
Of this topic of whether or not a woman can be an elder in the body of Christ, one dear sister writes:
“Paul is forbidding women from filling the office and role of the pastor or teacher. He is not prohibiting them from teaching in other appropriate conditions and circumstances (Acts 18:26; Titus 2:3-4). ‘Usurp authority’: Paul forbids women from exercising any type of authority over men in the church assembly, since the elders are those who rule (5:17). They are all to be men (as is clear from the requirements in 3:2, 5). The prohibition against women teaching in the church is qualified (by Titus 2:4), which allows them to instruct other women (and probably children also). Based on Gods’ Word, I also believe Woman should NOT become pastors. Nothing wrong with speaking Gods; Word on Social Media to plant seeds to the lost.” Yvonne
Do you know who Ahab was? He was Jezebel’s husband. She controlled him (1 Kings 21:25; 2 Kings 9:22). Jesus primarily condemned the weak moral coward Ahabs (men) in the church at Thyatira for allowing Jezebel to function. Are you getting familiar with Revelation 2:20-24? If not, you will not see the full severity of allowing any woman to function outside of her divinely ordained order. Elders in Christ’s body are men, only men, never a woman (1 Timothy 2:11-12; 3:2). This is God’s non-negotiable order and it’s for her protection and the protection of those who would be victimized by a woman in an eldership position.
ANY person who puts their own supposed, self-appointed calling before the truth of God (written Word) and body of Christ is completely self-serving and has no concern for the LORD or His body whatsoever. In fact, such a person is completely departed from the LORD and will bring great destruction on the body of Christ if allowed – if suffered. This is exactly what Jesus addresses in Thyatira and calls it “the depths of SATAN” himself (Revelation 2:20-24) In their self-deceived hearts, they are sure that God has called them to minister in a way He clearly forbids – just like the Jezebel who was allowed by the Ahabs in Thyatira who was self-appointed – “calleth HERSELF a prophetesss” (Revelation 2:20-24.) Repent now.
JEZEBELs will not be tolerated. Truly God-fearing women, authentic virtuous daughters of the LORD, rejoice in the truth and find protection in adhering to the LORD’s order/Word. Numerous Jezebels attack and are dealt with decisively. They are manifesting their demons at the preaching of the Word of God. Having a respectful dialogue is one thing, seeking to correct and dishonor any man is absolute evidence that you are a rebel, a godless Jezebel! Even if the man is wrong, cease seeking to correct and argue doctrine with a man. That is not your place. 1 Timothy 2:9-15 – there is order in God’s creation! This nation is a Jezebel nation that has trained women in this rebellion from the ground up. There is order in the house of God and anyone not adhering to that order is a rebel! Repentance needed.
“God has order in the church, family, governments, etc. I’m perfectly happy being married, under my husband’s leadership, where God wants me to be. I used to have a really bad Jezebel spirit… and I’m beginning to realize slowly over time how much hell and destruction I caused in my marriage… and even though I was ignorant of what was going on… the damage was still done… and I was the guilty one! I started to recognize the JEZEBEL spirit in 2008 and that’s when I began my repentance and surrendering to God. He’s still cleaning me up! That spirit is HORRENDOUS and it’s taking a long time to fix things! But, praise God… all I can offer him is my broken past, my failures, and now… my worship! HE can restore my past and fix all the mistakes I made!“ A.
Women CAN share, pray, and prophesy (1 Cor 14) but not teach the body of Christ at large (which includes men). God has an order we must observe. – “But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence” (1 Timothy 2:12). God fearing women know this to be HIS protection while Jezebels fume at this truth.
A WOMAN leading a church fellowship? Nope. A woman leading her household? Nope. Jezebel Exposed!
ANY woman who still believes she is to lead men is an unrepentant rebel Jezebel! Repent. There is NO excuse for this vile depravity. There will be no Jezebel in Heaven (1 Timothy 2:11-12; 3:2; Revelation 2:20-24).
“THROW HER DOWN”
At the end of her destructive miserable life, Jezebel was thrown down to her death from a high place, and eaten by dogs.
2 Kings 9
33 And he said, THROW HER DOWN. So they threw her down: and some of her blood was sprinkled on the wall, and on the horses: and he trode her under foot.
34 And when he was come in, he did eat and drink, and said, Go, see now this cursed woman, and bury her: for she is a king’s daughter.
35 And they went to bury her: but they found no more of her than the skull, and the feet, and the palms of her hands.
36 Wherefore they came again, and told him. And he said, This is the word of the LORD, which he spake by his servant Elijah the Tishbite, saying, In the portion of Jezreel shall dogs eat the flesh of Jezebel:
37 And the carcase of Jezebel shall be as dung upon the face of the field in the portion of Jezreel; so that they shall not say, This is Jezebel.
This is a clear divine statement. God had this witch thrown down eaten by dogs. All who die in the sin of rebellion which perverts the ordained will for the roles of male and female, will be thrown down into hell and eaten by the dogs of hell.
How many of Jesus’ 12 apostles were female? – ZERO.
IF you refuse to repent and observe God’s stated order of His creation – you prove to be an unsaved rebel (John 8:47; 1 Timothy 2:9-15, etc.).
“WHAT ABOUT JUNIA?” is a common question of jezebel women operating outside the stated order of the LORD. They are grasping for straws while intentionally ignoring clear Scripture truth.
Jezebels, desperate to prove their legitimacy to be elders, foolishly attempt to make Junia out to be a woman. Watch this:
“Salute Andronicus and Junia, my kinsMEN, and my fellowprisoners, who are of note among the apostles, who also were in Christ before me.” Romans 16:7
Paul says that Andronicus and Junia, my kinsMEN. Also, if Junia was one of the “fellowprisoners” of Paul, he was in that male prison section with Paul. Case closed.
So their whole argument rides upon the “a”, the fact that Junia’s name ends with an “a.” Joshua’s name ends with an “a”, does that now make him a woman? Yet they blatantly ignore the fact that God says one of the qualifications for being an elder in the body of Christ is that one must be “the HUSBAND of one wife” which only a man could possibly be (1 Timothy 3:2).
Each individual is known by how they honor or dishonor God’s Word.
“He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me. 7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. 8 For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do. 9 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.” Mark 7:6-9
Are women to correct men? Is that aligned with what God told us concerning His creative order? No. Keeping the divinely stated order is for the safety of all (Revelation 2:20-24).
God ordains that women are to be protected under the servant leadership of men. If a woman is allowed to assume the place ordained only for men, great judgment, death and destruction will come on that church (Revelation 2:20-24).
Women are not to teach, nor to usurp authority over men, nor argue doctrine with men. We see not one example of such in the New Testament. Such is explicitly forbidden (1 Timothy 2:11-12; 1 Corinthians 14:34, etc.).
“Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.” 1 Corinthians 14:34
“But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.” 1 Timothy 2:12
WHEN a woman attacks a man or seeks to rule over him or manipulate him, she further proves she is a Jezebel, a hell bound rebel, a lost soul.
“Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. 12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.” 1 Timothy 2:11-12
Excuse me, the ALMIGHTY didn’t ask for your no-count opinion when He gave us HIS WORD! Time to shut up, lay down your life, deny yourself, take up the cross and truly follow Jesus before it’s too late! No moral coward whiners in Heaven! Revelation 21:8
PASTORS AND THEIR WIVES ARE OFTEN HEARD LAUGHING WHILE SAYING – You know the old demonic fable where a Jezebel wife says: “My husband may be the head but I’m the neck that turns the head!” Pure jezebellian witchcraft! God forbid that we ever laugh at such iniquity again! Those who understand, choose to agree with, and enact the order of God in creation, will see this for what it is – Jezebellian witchcraft!
DEAR godly woman-You are completely, divinely separated from this jezebel generation!
There will be no Jezebel in Heaven, not one!
JEZEBELS love little male pansies who let those witches walk over them! Not here! Repent Ahab!
GOD’s men must never allow women to lead where men are called to lead (1 Timothy 2:12; 3:2; Revelation 2:20-24).
The men at the church at Thyatira consented to a woman operating in an eldership position in the church/among His people. Untold horror resulted (Revelation 2:20-24). Jesus warns us!
There is ORDER in the true house of God – and chaos in that which falsely claims to be His house, His people!
“Let all things be done decently and in ORDER.” 1 Corinthians 14:40
“For this cause left I thee in Crete, that thou shouldest SET IN ORDER the things that are wanting, and ordain elders in every city, as I had appointed thee:” Titus 1:5
Blessing is found where there is ORDER! “ORDER” appears 61 times in God’s Word. Doing things “in order” or in an orderly way simply means we do them GOD’s stated way!
JUST because a woman can run her mouth and even genuinely have a gift of the Spirit DOES NOT mean she’s an elder in the body of Christ – which is divinely reserved non-negotiably for men, male elders (1 Timothy 2:11-12; 3:2).
Suppression? No, PROTECTION (Revelation 2:20-24).
Men and women are equal in significance before God and yet He gave male and female unique roles as it pleases Him.
Also, beware of those who get upset about this heated discussion and cop-out, claiming it’s not biblical to argue about this. They are dead wrong. If God has spoken clearly on this topic or any other, that is the WORD we are to allow to dwell richly among us (Colossians 3:16).
No one reading these words is going to stand before a mere man to be judged. YET each of us WILL stand before our Maker who is the Judge of our eternal souls. What saith the Scriptures?
IF GOD specifically spoke on this matter, and He certainly did, why is there division other than that there are those here who believe God at HIS Word and those who don’t, period. Those who don’t study and believe God’s Word are “NOT of God.” Memorize John 8:47 …. The sword of truth divides between Christ’s true disciples and the counterfeits among us.
“Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.” Matthew 10:34
“Whoso despiseth the word shall be destroyed: but he that feareth the commandment shall be rewarded.” Proverbs 13:13
Who is “OF GOD” and Who is “NOT of God”? (John 8:47)
Jesus and His apostles didn’t teach that women were lower than men. They simply taught the divinely given ROLES of men and women – in the body of Christ and in the family (1 Timothy 2:9-14; 1 Peter 3:1-7; Titus 2:1-5; Revelation 2:20-24, etc.).
To say that men and women are the same, that God had no specific, creative reason to make them complimentary to each other, is to call the Almighty a fool. Jezebel be gone.
To put yourself under the ministry of a woman who is acting as an elder among God’s people, is to defy Christ, and to agree with Christ’s arch enemy and his jezebels and to bring severe destruction on the people of God (1 Timothy 2:12; 3:2; Revelation 2:20-24).
SAINTS, beware of those who attempt to change God’s Word to fit their own false doctrines and desires (Mark 7:6-10; 2 Timothy 4:2-4). Here’s a perfect example …… Regrettably, there are females who insist they are called by God to lead men. This is complete heresy and the subversive spirit of antichrist at work. Unthinkably, these rebels seek to ignorantly and arrogantly say the LORD missed it in translation in the King James Bible. This would be laughable if it were not so pitiful.
“Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. 12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.” 1 Timothy 2:11-12
The LORD’s stated order is the place of His protection.
To a Jezebel who is calling herself “pastor” the following message was delivered:
No such thing as a woman pastor. Repent. An elder in the body of Christ MUST be “the HUSBAND of one wife” (1 Timothy 3:2). No woman can be a “husband” and therefore all women are disqualified from being elders among God’s people.
One lady asked:
“When men are puny in leadership–then what?”
REPLY:
The supposed inaction of men and perhaps that’s due to their discernment of Jezebel in these false churches, in no way changes God or His Word.
That still never justifies the additional sin of women taking up the place of the man in leadership over the body of Christ. The LORD is clear (1 Timothy 2:11-12). Two wrongs don’t make a right.
To the rebel, it’s all about THEM and not Christ and the protection of His body. It’s all about what THEY THINK AND SAY and not about what Jesus clearly stated in His final authority – His divine Word. In Revelation 2:20-24, Jesus solemnly warned us of the destruction that comes when a Jezebel is allowed to function outside of the order God ordained for women. He specifically blames the men who were supposed to stop such!
“…to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols. 21 And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not.” Revelation 2:20-21
QUESTION ASKED:
“But can’t the Jezebel spirit take hold on man, child or woman all the same? It doesn’t just take hold on women, correct?”
REPLY:
Well those characteristics can be seen in both sexes. The Jezebel of the OT and NT were women (1 Kings, Revelation 2:20-24). Usually, it’s a woman and that’s due to the corruption of roles, where a woman is allowed by unrepentant men to lead (Revelation 2:20-24).
The Lydia Question
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“What about Lydia?! The Thessalonian church was started in her house. Paul directly wrote to her. I guess I should not speak about thing because I’m just a dumb woman whose only use is to suffer the sins of eve in childbirth.”
REPLY:
WHO said you were “a dumb woman”? Sounds like a smokescreen. WHAT does Scripture plainly state? Lydia was hospitable, amen. That doesn’t make her an elder or pastor. She merely facilitated the men of God who were the elders. You are not a dumb woman. No one insinuated such except yourself. We are peering into what GOD says is the role of a man and a woman in the family and in His church (among His people). And a woman is to be protected by the men of God around her by not allowing her to lead, which brings great destruction (Revelation 2:20-24).
Lydia was a servant of the LORD, not an elder over Christ’s body, which would be contradictory to the message of Scripture concerning the roles of men and women. Lydia is mentioned twice in the New Testament and there’s no indication of her doing anything except what’s most important and that’s serving in the way God’s ordained she do as a woman.
Acts 16:14 And a certain woman named Lydia, a seller of purple, of the city of Thyatira, which worshipped God, heard us: whose heart the Lord opened, that she attended unto the things which were spoken of Paul.
Acts 16:40 And they went out of the prison, and entered into the house of Lydia: and when they had seen the brethren, they comforted them, and departed.
This is how the Jezebels out there try to misuse Scripture to manipulate and deceive the unlearned. It would take a huge amount of reading into what the text says to conclude that Lydia was an elder in Christ’s body.
Feminism is Simply Jezebel
Feminists are simply rebels, following the steps of Jezebel and are miserable, self-centered, self-serving people, without exception. They are wounded and taking their anger out on God and men instead of examining their own hearts and repenting. Jezebel is equivalent to Judas who betrayed the Son of God. Women are to be virtuous help mates/wives to their husbands and “keepers at home,” and bear children, and teach the younger WOMEN and not the men …, etc. This is the explicit command and order of our Maker whom we shall all stand before to give full account. See Titus 2:1-5 and 1 Timothy 2:9-15 and 1 Peter 3:1-7. Truly God fearing women are the only truly happy women on the earth and fulfilling what the LORD created them to do. They humbly follow His order. Judgment day is on the way.
The Galatians 3:28 Question
Jezebels attempt to use Galatians 3:28 to justify this rebellion. Let’s take a look.
“There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.” Galatians 3:28
We are “all one” in equality and in justification and yet God created males and females with different roles. Men and women do not have the same roles. Nature reveals that. God made men and women to fulfill unique roles in the family and the church.
Any beginner student of the Bible, God’s Word, knows that Galatians 3:28 is not dealing with the roles … it’s simply speaking of justification and does nothing to negate the divinely stated purposes and duties for the unique, complimentary ROLES of men and women.
Equality in God’s justification in Christ is what Galatians 3:28 is speaking of, NOT the specific roles our Maker designated for men and women – in the FAMILY and in the CHURCH … “There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus” (Galatians 3:28).
Galatians 3:28 is not dealing with the roles … it’s simply speaking of justification and does nothing to negate the divinely stated purposes and duties for the unique, complimentary ROLES of men and women.
YOU KNOW WHEN A WOMAN IS REBELLIOUS IN HEART AND THEREFORE UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF THE DEVIL WHEN SHE’S LOOKING FOR REASONS AND SCRIPTURE TO “PROVE” SHE CAN BE AN ELDER IN CHRIST’S BODY.
“Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. 12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. 13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve. 14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.” 1 Timothy 2:11-12
A prequalification for eldership in Christ’s body is “HUSBAND of one wife” which no woman could possibly be (1 Timothy 3:2).
THE FALL OF MANKIND OCCURRED AS A RESULT OF THE MAN ALLOWING THE WOMAN TO BE MORE IMPORTANT THAN GOD. THIS IS THE EXACT OPPOSITE OF GOD’S NON-NEGOTIABLE ORDER. AS WE SEE IN THE CHURCH AT THYATIRA, WHEN MEN ALLOW WOMEN TO LEAD THERE WILL BE CHAOS EVERY TIME.
BEWARE OF TODAY’S AHABS
A woman preaching to men?
No.
Women sharing, communicating God’s Word among the brethren in fellowship? Yes, but never arguing, preaching to, or taking the position of authority as an elder which is reserved exclusively for men (1 Timothy 2:12; 3:2). Observing the severe threat of Jesus when He spoke to the MEN at Thyatira tells us much about the Ahabish MEN today who are telling women to preach (Revelation 2:20-24).
MESSAGE AND REPLY from an Ahab WHO WAS ATTEMPTING TO JUSTIFY JEZEBELS. He writes:
“How about Phoebe which was a prophetess. Preacher. You are in a very destructive misleading Religion. Get away while you can. You do not need to tie gods hands and misquote scripture according to your wishes.”
MY REPLY:
You quoted not one Bible verse and the one you reference you completely lied about. God “tied” His own hands from Genesis to Revelation and you regrettably have no clue as to what He stated and therefore have no business speaking on it. The LORD says you are a fool (Proverbs 18:13).
Phebe’s name appears 2 times in the New Testament:
Rom. 16:1: I commend unto you Phebe our sister, which is a servant of the church which is at Cenchrea:
Rom. 16:27: To God only wise, be glory through Jesus Christ for ever. Amen. Written to the Romans from Corinthus, and sent by Phebe servant of the church at Cenchrea.
I’m sorry, can you show me where the Bible says Phebe was anything but a “servant”?
Before blocking this Ahab, I sent him this: Dennis, you can’t even capitalize the “G” of God’s Name. Wow.
You are the exact moral coward, pansy Jesus addresses and blames in Rev. 2:20-24. Repent sinner and when you do, Christ will give you a backbone. Hell awaits the “fearful” (cowardly) Ahabs (Rev. 21:8).
Since when is it legalistic or wrong to stand on God’s Word? I am a part of no religious group. Can you tell me why this doesn’t mean what it says? “Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. 12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence” (1 Timothy 2:11-12).
Proverbs 31 Woman Audio Series [podcast]
“The Depths of Satan”
What was Jesus’ message to the church at Thyatira? Did the church at Thyatira have their house in order? Were they operating in God’s order? If not, what was the sin of those men (in particular)? Please read Revelation 2:20-24
Men and women are equivalent in salvation – neither male nor female – and yet, God designed men and women with different and unique ROLES. Women are not to lead men – the church, period. We must obey God’s order – do things HIS way and not our own. If we don’t, we will unleash hell’s Jezebellian fury on the church as we see in the church at Thyatira where “the depths of Satan” is associated with this allowance of Jezebel to function (Revelation 2:20-24).
No such thing as a woman elder in the New Testament church. Read 1 Timothy 2:11-12.
Women are seen doing much ministry in the New Testament but not leading. Did Jesus choose even one female as His twelve? No. God gave us specific instructions concerning the role of men and women. His Word is final authority.
The problem is not abusive men or controlling women – the source of our problems is rooted in our own sin and refusal to die to self, deny self, take up the cross and follow Christ as He clearly and repeatedly prescribed. When we do we will gladly follow the divine order given to us by God in His blessed Word.
EQUALITY in salvation, not ROLES (Gal. 3:28). Has anyone ever pointed you to what Jesus warned us about in Rev. 2:20-24? Do you know what the Son of God calls “the depths of Satan”? Allowing women to function outside the role God ordained her to function in is rebellion, brings great destruction, and is the very “depths of Satan” himself.
Anyone violating God’s order will be judged and this is precisely why He judged Thyatira (Revelation 2:20-24). Of Jezebel and all who allow, enable, and participate in such perversion of the roles of men and women, Jesus says He is going to “kill her children with death” (Revelation 2:20-24). Anybody want to argue with the Son of God?
The kingdom of God is not about high and mighty you or me but rather the King of kings. Repent.
NAME one feminist who smiles. Feminism=jezebellian rebellion against God!
This is NOT at all a matter of EQUALITY but rather a matter of roles … God is no fool – He didn’t make men and women for the same purposes … Have you noticed that men and women are different? Think there was a reason for this? WHY O WHY then would He have bothered to create that first beautiful lady if there were not a specific, unique purpose in His plan for her to fulfill? And what does God’s Word tell us about the woman’s purpose? Is it to rise up and be in control, to be boisterous, yelling at the enemy, wearing armor and fighting? Is she a man or the “weaker vessel” to be submitted to God and therefore His order which is Christ as the Head over the man and the man as head over the woman? (to protect her) 1 Peter 3:7
“But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.” 1 Corinthians 11:3
You cannot possibly know the will of God until you know the WORD of God – because the Word of God is the will of God.
QUESTION:
“The Bible forbids a woman to teach, but what if she is on social media and is a believer, who posts instructional posts? I have learned a lot from a couple of women who have done this. Does that fall under the category of women teaching men? Thanks Todd.”
REPLY:
Good morning brother….. Like yourself brother, I’ve learned so very much from Jesus through His daughters. Yes the governing truth conveyed in Scripture is divine protection. From reading 1 Timothy 2:11-12, it seems to be that a woman is not to stand up in an authority posture to rule over men in the local assembling of believers (Revelation 2:20-24). So for a woman to put out Scriptural truth is perfectly fine according to God’s order. Colossians 3:16 is of interest here…. “you” is plural – “Let the word of Christ dwell in you (plural) richly…” So, if two or more of Jesus’ people are gathered around, talking, the sisters are to share alike, never usurping authority over the men, keeping the divine order of roles, yet enjoying fellowship together (1 Timothy 2:9-15). Governing truths are important here. Brothers and sisters/Christ’s men and women were present, gathered together in fellowship, in the upper room to receive the promise of the Father, the baptism with the Holy Ghost: “These all continued with one accord in prayer and supplication, with the women, and Mary the mother of Jesus, and with his brethren” (Acts 1:14). God’s order is to be observed by His people and is set forth for the protection of His people. In 1 Corinthians 14, we see beloved sisters in Christ spoken of as prophesying and praying in the assemblies. Praying and prophesying yes – but that Scripture, by divine design, did not include preaching to men in the body at large. God had all the opportunity in His divine Word and economy to include preaching right there in 1 Corinthians 14….. and didn’t because that would contradict His own Word. His order is for His protection and without it, we will see the severe damage that Jesus addresses in the church at Thyatira (Revelation 2:20-24).
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Abiding
Kiss Jesus Or be Crushed as His Enemy! [podcast]
Satan’s Pitiful Petty Perverted Pawns have an Expiration Date!
“Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, cruel both with wrath and fierce anger, to lay the land desolate: and he shall destroy the sinners thereof out of it.” Isaiah 13:9
Psalm 2 is Prophetic of Christ and of His Return to Take back Possession of His Planet, Earth
The Reign of the Lord’s Anointed
1 Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?
2 The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, saying,
3 Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us.
4 He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision.
5 Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex them in his sore displeasure.
6 Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion.
7 I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.
8 Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession.
9 Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter’s vessel.
10 Be wise now therefore, O ye kings: be instructed, ye judges of the earth.
11 Serve the LORD with fear, and rejoice with trembling.
12 Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him.
GOD told us He’s laughing at these luciferians and all their “elaborate plans” to control humanity. Read Psalms 2. Jesus is coming. His enemies will be crushed under His holy, Almighty feet (Romans 16:20).
“And the God of peace shall bruise Satan under your feet shortly. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you. Amen.” Romans 16:20
The future belongs exclusively to Jesus Christ and His followers. Read the book of Revelation!
“And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder.” Matthew 21:44
Jesus is coming back “In flaming fire taking vengeance.”
“And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, 8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: 9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power; 10 When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day.” 2 Thessalonians 1:7-10
The Coming of the Son of Man
“And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring; 26 Men’s hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken. 27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. 28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.” Luke 21:25-28
Just as Aaron’s rod swallowed up the rods of the sorcerers of Egypt (the world), so shall Christ’s kingdom swallow up the kingdoms of this world! (Exodus 7:12; Daniel 2:44; 7:14) Will you be a part of Christ’s eternal kingdom?
“And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.” Revelation 11:15
Bow now or burn forever.
All who refuse to repent, bowing down to “kiss the Son” of God will perish in their own corruption and be violently vanquished into the bowels of eternal damnation, the prison of fire, which will then be “cast into the lake of fire.”
“And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. 15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.” Revelation 20:14-15
“EVERY Knee”
“Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: 10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; 11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.” Philippians 2:9-11
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Apostasy
Mother Teresa was a Fraud [podcast]
Was Mother Teresa a True Christian or a Fake Philanthropist and Fraud?
Some believe “Mother Teresa” was actually a man and the father of Anthony Fauci. Check the resemblance, and think about how “she” is never seen without the head covering. Oh and someone pointed out that the blue and white head covering is the same pattern/look as Epstein’s temple to Satan on Epstein island. Do your own research.
“For MANY deceivers are entered into the world . . .” 2 John 7
Anyone who quotes Mother Teresa is a false prophet. – “Ye shall know them by their fruits” (Matthew 7:16, 20).
So many today tell you exactly who they are when they quote absolute frauds like John Calvin, Mother Teresa, Joyce Meyer, Kenneth Hagin, Kenneth Copeland, Rick Warren, James R. White, Todd White, etc.. The list is endless of false prophets who are still heralded by their satanic agenda counterparts, their heretical pawns who are part of the “conspiracy“ of false prophets who are against the LORD (Ezekiel 22:25-27).
Stop endorsing and quoting and esteeming mere sinful men, now! Obey God by exposing them! (Matthew 10:26-28; 23; Romans 16:17-18; Jude 3, etc.).
“Cease ye from man, whose breath is in his nostrils: for wherein is he to be accounted of?” Isaiah 2:22
“Seems so many miss the little things by not investigating for themselves. I wish they would just stick to the Bible and give honour where God hath given honour: like unto Paul, Timothy, Epaphras, John, Peter, etc.. There are plenty of examples to us in the written Word without having to laud men that we truly know very little of or were written of by secular historians.” Jon Crane
SHE WASN’T EVEN SAVED! STOP HERALDING HER AS SOME GREAT SAINT! GOOD WORKS DON’T SAVE ANYONE! REPENT!
FACTS:
- Mother Teresa was never born again. No person who is truly born again remains in the cult of Catholicism, without exception.
- Mother Teresa never even claimed to be a born again Christian – besides, there’s no such thing as a Catholic who is a born again Christian.
- She never once said you can only be saved by Christ through grace.
- She never once quoted Jesus when He gave the essential of knowing Him: “Ye must be born again” (John 3:3, 7).
- Mother Teresa was a sinner who spent her life championing the cause of an antichrist, works-based cult.
- She kissed statues (idols) and honored the phony pope of Rome.
- Mother Teresa betrayed the LORD her whole life and taught salvation by works.
- She admitted in her books that she did not know the LORD.
On the surface (at first glance), philanthropic acts of kindness may seem noble and yet actually be a stunt to draw publicity to the individual or group performing them. Asceticism is alive and well today.
“Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them: otherwise ye have no reward of your Father which is in heaven. 2 Therefore when thou doest thine alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward. 3 But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth: 4 That thine alms (personal giving) may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret himself shall reward thee openly.” Matthew 6:1-4
You see, many who claim to be Christians are quick to join in building homes for people, marching in pink to raise money for breast cancer, give to the murderous United Way and Susan G. Komen each of which supports Planned MURDERhood in killing innocent babies. Yet, these same people never obey the One they say saved them by telling others about His salvation. Astounding!
Defacing ourselves to somehow merit saving grace is an antichrist endeavor. Christ’s one perfect sacrifice alone merited our salvation and to be His, one must repent and put their faith in Him. “Believe on the LORD Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved” (Acts 16:31).…. “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast” (Ephesians 2:8-9).
ACCORDING TO THE NEW TESTAMENT RECORD, EVEN IF WE GIVE OUR VERY BODIES TO BE BURNED OUT OF BEING A SUPPOSEDLY KIND PERSON AND YET DON’T LOVE GOD ENOUGH TO OBEY HIM BY REPENTING AND GETTING SAVED BY CHRIST’S GRACE ALONE AND LOVE OUR TRADITION/RELIGION MORE THAN HIM, IT’S ALL IN VAIN AND HELL AWAITS (1 CORINTHIANS 13).
“Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal. 2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing. 3 And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing.” 1 Corinthians 13
The national anthem of the rebel who cloaks himself with his religious facade is “I Did it MY Way.” To know God and to be in Heaven eternally instead of hell, one must do things on God’s terms and no other.
So called “mother” Teresa never once even claimed to be born again, washed in the blood of Jesus Christ, or anything but an idolatrous Catholic who was in rejection of the perfect sacrifice of Jesus and “earning” her own salvation. She admitted to being a lost soul in her own books.
“If you do your research yourself, you will find the truth about Mother Teresa. She rarely showed up to her own ministry headquarters in Calcutta. MOST of the money given to her “ministry” went to the Vatican.” Maria Valdez
“It’s said that on her dying bed she repeated, ‘It’s so dark.’” Valencia Hargrave
Beware of this generation of counterfeit “Christians” being raised up who think that they do God service by their own good works. They are being sold down the river into hell. They refuse to receive the grace of God freely given in Christ and to obey Him in preaching His saving Gospel message which Jesus sends His people forth to do (Matthew 28:18-20; Mark 16:15-20).
Someone may say, “But what about Acts 10:35?” “But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.”
Reply: v. 35 of Acts 10 must be taken in context with its immediate text and also the whole of Scripture. Note Acts 15:11 – “But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they.” Good works are a mere outworking of saving grace. No one earns their way into Heaven – only Jesus could have and did do that. Rom. 3:23-25
The Word of God tells us that even if we give our very lives without being led of Christ and loving Him supremely, it will profit us zilch:
“And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing.” 1 Corinthians 13:3
Many today are being misled to believe that if they will give to a local church to help them build a physical building or do something else that is never seen in the New Testament Scriptures, that they are meriting treasure from God. They give in vain unless it’s to a needy person (especially a Christian) or a ministry that is genuinely fulfilling a New Testament purpose.
Digging a bit deeper than the surface, one will find that it’s ALL a publicity stunt of the Catholic church to “confirm” their adherents in the lies that snare and keep bound their souls.
Deborah Blanchard notes:
“Mother Teresa wasn’t even a mother…where does man get these titles anyway? Nuns are called mothers? Man made false titles! She espoused teaching not the truth of Jesus Christ being the only way to the Father but that anyone can be a better person, Hindu, Buddhist, Muslim…etc.”
Mother Teresa was yet another pawn of the pagan Catholic church. They did photo shoots to stage her as some hero of help. She championed the cause of a false religion that is leading millions to hell. So, she is a false prophet. Also, Teresa never – not one time – spoke the words of Christ expressing the clear truth of how to become a Christian. She never once spoke Christ’s words “Repent” or “Ye MUST be born again” (Matthew 4:17; John 3:3, 7). We know by this that she is “accursed” for preaching “another gospel” (Galatians 1:6-9). Like all Catholics, Mother Teresa never once said what Paul taught about being saved by the grace of Christ through faith in Jesus Christ alone (Ephesians 2:8-9).
“Mother Teresa did not testify to the Gospel. Her focus was on the virtues of ‘ Suffering.’ Although she won a Nobel Peace Prize for her humanitarian work and founded the Missionaries of Charity, the millions of dollars she attained from the rich on her World Tour was not used to improve the impoverished lifestyle of the suffering people of India! Mother Teresa’s money was mostly spent on religious activities and not on the poor. She built a hundred facilities all over the world bearing her name and organization ‘Missionaries of Charity.’ Most of them were nunneries used to train uneducated and obedient young women in her beliefs which served to establish a ‘Cult of Suffering’.” Kristin S.
It’s not our suffering that merits any bit of God’s mercy and saving grace but rather the suffering of the one Messiah, Jesus Christ, on that cross 2,000 years ago. As He was bleeding for our sins, He declared, “It is finished” which means “Paid in Full!” (John 19:30). Our sins have now been paid for in full by Christ alone and only through knowing Him can anyone be saved. Peace with God
Salvation is in Jesus Christ alone. There is no salvation in Rome. No sinner dressed in a religious costume can forgive his own sins, much less anyone else’s. Only GOD can forgive sins and He will only do that for those who come directly to Him through Christ, the only Mediator between God and man. Jesus says that only “The Son of man hath power on earth to forgive sins” (Matthew 9:6). The Catholic church is a works-based, Christ-denying antichrist cult. They worship “another Jesus” (2 Corinthians 11:2-5). Trusting the Catholic Religion?
“And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.” Matthew 23:9
FEEDBACK:
“Imagine how much damage (to souls) Mother Theresa did in misleading many to follow her in the way of the Roman Catholic Church rather than following Jesus Christ. The way is narrow. The way is Jesus Christ of Nazareth. No other way will do.” D.A.
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“Mother Theresa in my opinion is in Heaven, when I think of her I SEE JESUS and LOVE.” Sandra
REPLY:
Hi Sandra. On what basis was she a Christian? Did Jesus Christ come in vain? Are we going to call the Son of God a liar? Please quote mother Teresa giving the original Gospel please. Good works do not earn anyone favor, forgiveness or Heaven …. without exception, we have all sinned against God, the Judge of our eternal souls …. We have all lied, stolen, used His holy name in vain, not honored our parents, etc. Jesus came to save and forgive, something He alone can do. Mother Teresa preached no such thing. She touted and championed the cause of a false religion, misleading millions. Jesus says “Ye must be born again.” John 3:3, 7 … “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.” Ephesians 2:8-9
Message Received:
“Actually, I heard this nun preach with my own ears. She preached Jesus Christ and it was powerful. Read HER writings, not what others have to say.” Pam
Reply:
Hi Pam. Where did “mother” Teresa ever preach that the sinner must “repent” and that “ye must be born again” and that you can only be saved by the grace of God through Jesus Christ and not by your own works? Please give us chapter and page number in her books. Waiting. … Luke 13:3; John 3:3, 7; Eph. 2:8-9 … Unfortunately, you will never find her preaching that original Gospel but “another gospel” which is a false gospel … So-called “mother” Teresa perpetrated and championed a false religion, leading many to eternal damnation.
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Apostasy
The Truth about Fellowship and Going to “Church” [podcast]
The Simplicity of Fellowship that Exalts and Glorifies Christ
“And they continued stedfastly in the apostles’ doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers. ” Acts 2:42
MANY today peddle the importance of fellowship because they hear it from their pastors on a regular basis. Yet, much more important than man to man fellowship is God to man, and man to God fellowship. This is little spoken of. And, what passes and is pawned off as “fellowship” today doesn’t fit the biblical description, the prescription for fellowship (Acts 2:42-47; Colossians 3:16, etc.). It’s not even a faint resemblance.
Jesus sums up the divine order of priority for and in the lives of all who will know Him and the Father.
“Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. 38 This is the first and great commandment. 39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.” Matthew 22:37-40
WHAT’s more important 1. Fellowship with God, or 2. Fellowship with man? God! (Read Matthew 22:37-40.) In fact, your fellowship with man will only be according to your fellowship with our Maker.
The goal here is not to diminish the importance of fellowship with other members of Christ’s body but to ascertain the priorities of God and set them in their biblical order.
“Many pastors have destroyed my vineyard, they have trodden my portion under foot, they have made my pleasant portion a desolate wilderness.” Jeremiah 12:10
Pastors today (many of whom went to long-time apostate seminaries), are building a business instead of building the kingdom of Christ in the heart of those for whom He came and died. When Jesus said “I will build my church” He was speaking about building His kingdom in the hearts of His beloved people (Matthew 16:18).
Sister Nelline writes:
“I’ve recently left the organized church, couldn’t take it anymore. The pastor there used those tactics about coming to church and how you shouldn’t miss. Even threatened to stop the live stream because he felt people would rather stay home to watch instead of attend. But the one that really got me is, after I had been out sick a few weeks when I returned his first words to me were.. ‘How far back have you backslid?’ I told him I hadn’t backslid at all and added that I listen to preaching all the time. He said, it isn’t the same. Had to bite my lip from saying YOU GOT THAT RIGHT!”
Their prayer and goal and work does not center around Christ Jesus and seeing His people grow to know Him yet more and more and be established ever more deeply in His grace (Colossians 2:6-10). No, they seek to use any manipulating method they can to vest their prey in their ministry busine$$. They’ve turned the house of God, the place that is supposed to be for the worship of the LORD alone, into a den of thieves, and they are the thieves (Matthew 21:15-17).
“Finally, my brethren, rejoice in the Lord. To write the same things to you, to me indeed is not grievous, but for you it is safe. 2 Beware of dogs, beware of evil workers, beware of the concision. 3 For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh.” Philippians 3:1-3
“We Would See Jesus.” John 12:21
We are looking for, seeking Christ, not a church or a Christian “hero” or type of evangelical “pope.”
“Cease ye from man, whose breath is in his nostrils: for wherein is he to be accounted of?” Isaiah 2:22
Fellowship Priority
Yes, we fellowship with one another as Christ’s saints and yet by order of divine priority, “truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ” (1 John 1:3).
“That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.” 1 John 1:3
Many in ministry, building their own church business empire, put more emphasis on your fellowship with THEM rather than God. Beware.
The sobering reality is that the vast majority of church gatherings once a week are simply businesses with a paid conductor and volunteer staff.
In today’s church world we do not witness people who live a life of prayer fueling a life filled with Gospel action as we see of the earliest believers beginning in the book of Acts. “There is no new thing under the sun,” and this is how it’s always been among those who profess, who pretend to know God. Zephaniah the prophet exposed the circus conductor leaders of his day and ours.
“Her prophets are light and treacherous persons: her priests have polluted the sanctuary, they have done violence to the law.” Zephaniah 3:4
Rather we see that “Christianity” today consists of merely attending church, being part of a club that meets weekly to mull over felt needs instead of knowing Jesus, true repentance, personal holiness, a denial of self, the crucified life, and getting into the Word. Christianity has been reduced to attending a one hour circus on Sunday morning, hearing a few stories and a few verses from a cotton candy fake “bible” and a psychology laced sermonette. The fruit of the lives of of its adherents tells the story.
Sad Sunday Saps
“‘Church’ fellowship is kind of a joke these days. I’ve observed nothing more than a networking event in some cases where realtors and other entrepreneurs are just looking for business leads while hanging out at the church coffee bar.” Jennifer
May the truth of God blast us out of the sink holes, the quick sand that has absorbed us downward.
Is that what our lives, your life has come to? Is this all there is…. a stale, mundane country club membership in a mutual admiration society where overcoming sin is mocked at, the cross of Christ and crucified life are never heard from the Word and by the power of the Holy Ghost? Where’s the life of Christ truly in our daily lives? What kind of Gospel action is transpiring in your personal daily life?
“Therefore they that were scattered abroad went every where preaching the word.” Acts 8:4
In the New Testament canon we don’t see any such “Christianity” as we witness today and hence the use of the word “churchianity” where the extent of “Christianity” is reduced to church membership and attendance.
Deep is calling unto deep beloved…. God is speaking to the hearts of His people to cry out to Him, to come unto Him with tears of repentance, asking Him to do something deeper, to rescue them from the pit, the muck-laden miry clay of religiosity, a mere “form of godliness,” and to establish them in a genuine walk and life of His authentic disciple. The Holy Ghost via Paul prophesied of this very day which is upon us (2 Timothy 3:1-7-13). Instead of being about Christ and His people, it’s all about the self-absorbed, self-idolatrous, entertainment of the prey.
“Sow to yourselves in righteousness, reap in mercy; break up your fallow ground: for it is time to seek the LORD, till he come and rain righteousness upon you.” Hosea 10:12
Scripture reveals that true fellowship is essential, not faithfulness to a certain group that meets in a certain building once or more weekly.
When told about good preaching at a certain local church, one disciple responded this way (sobering and true):
“So did my pastor preach the whole truth but nothing ever stuck, no revival meeting or guest ‘evangelist’ ever taught me anything that made any significant change in me. It was only when I invested my time and money into knowing what’s between Genesis 1:1 and Revelation 22:21 that I really began to know my Bible. It all started with Proverbs 8:17 where I took God at His word and held Him accountable for keeping his end of the bargain as I kept my end.”
Saints, many have been sold the bill of goods concerning “church” attendance and membership. Like trained monkeys they’ve been indoctrinated to be faithful to the local church, not Christ. The whole scam is set up to benefit the frauds who designed and who perpetrate it. They push people to be loyal to the system, not the Savior. Run.
THERE are so many who will be shocked to be separated from Christ in the end and it’s because they were told all their lives and believed that being faithful to their local church and pastor meant they were being loyal to God. In most cases, faithful church members are wasting their energy, heart affections, and money as they have pushed Christ aside to serve their wolf pastor and that local church and its agenda.
“But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. 2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. 3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.” 2 Peter 2:1-3
“For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.” Romans 16:18
One follower of the KING writes:
“So many in the ‘church’ world have no idea what it means to truly follow Jesus. I know that I fall short all the time too and yet am blessed to repent daily and do my best to be obedient to His Word as well as share His truth with others. I long to know Jesus and His Word even more daily.”
The biblical definition of “Official” would grossly differ from the commercialization of the den of thieves many call “church” today. Jesus is calling His remnant to “come out of her” or be consumed with her (2 Cor 6:17; Rev 18:4-5). I don’t know even one regular “church” attender of the modern church who is on fire for Jesus, who is winning souls, who is in the Word daily, fervently, who is prayed and fasted up, who is feeding Christ’s sheep. And those false churches don’t even use the real Bible, the King James Bible, they use fake “bibles,” lame.
Monetizing the Ministry
False leaders have long ago used their position over the people for their own self-serving benefit. They gather the people to garner their funds. They push for the people to gather, getting them to become a member, and yet are not fulfilling the ordained role of an overseer – to feed the flock and watch for their souls – yet received pay for such (Hebrews 13:7, 17). See Isaiah 56:8-12; Jeremiah 12:10; 23; Ezekiel 34; Zephaniah 3:4; Matthew 24:4-5; 2 Peter 2:1-3. Misuse of funds. Misappropriation.
Jesus exposed them…. by showing how they put on a big show to rob the people:
“Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows’ houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation. 15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.” Matthew 23:4-5
“Son of man, prophesy against the shepherds of Israel, prophesy, and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD unto the shepherds; Woe be to the shepherds of Israel that do feed themselves! should not the shepherds feed the flocks?….. 10 Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against the shepherds; and I will require my flock at their hand, and cause them to cease from feeding the flock; neither shall the shepherds feed themselves any more; for I will deliver my flock from their mouth, that they may not be meat for them.” Ezekiel 34:1, 20
TRUE NEW TESTAMENT FELLOWSHIP DOES NOT EQUAL GOING TO A “CHURCH BUILDING” ON SUNDAY MORNING – SPECIFICALLY IF THAT GATHERING IS NOT CHRIST-CENTERED, FIERCELY BIBLICAL, AND FULL OF GOD’S LOVE AND STRICT ADHERENCE TO HIS HOLY, WRITTEN WORD.
When you are seeking Christ daily, you don’t need a Sunday morning pep rally.
Looking for the church means simply looking for other true members of Christ’s body! WE are HIS church – called out ones. Amen Jesus. Fellowship, Gatherings
Do the 4 simple elements seen in Acts 2:42 exist in the fellowship you attend? Also, what’s been added?
The WORD will always be front and center and not salaried frauds pretending to be true elders of the remnant body of Christ (Colossians 3:16).
As He did twice when He walked the earth, if Jesus were here today in the flesh, He would be flipping 99% of “churches” who’ve made the place of worship a den of thieves – to rob the people of their pure worship of God, of their time, of their money, of their place with God, etc. (Matthew 21; John 2). He’s still doing it through His servants who fearlessly preach His Word (Romans 16:17-18; Galatians 2; Jude 3-4; etc.).
Connie Hatten
“Our church went Purpose Driven too! I remember noticing THAT’S when it all changed for the worst. Rick Warren used MULTIPLE modern Bible perversions, and his online ‘network’ of resources can be accessed by pastors to download Sermons, etc! What happened to studying God’s Word and going to the HOLY SPIRIT?!”
Barbara H Kuks
“I noticed a change in the Bible study classes. I heard the church Pastor and staff actually went to visit Warren’s church back then. It was kept quiet but the changes were obvious. No more time or room for the Holy Spirit or words of knowledge in the services. They started television the Sunday morning service and limiting time etc. Became very theatrical and not spontaneous at all.”
“Since leaving church 9 months ago, I have grown by leaps and bounds in my faith. And in the knowledge of his word. Bless you brother!” C.
“Okay, sharing one of my biggest mistakes. We had family devotions when the kids were young. My sister and her husband and kids lived with us and we all took part in family worship. Then . . . my husband always liked this Pentecostal church near us and decided we would go there. They had something almost every night and that was the mantra, ‘Be in church whenever the doors were open.’ Our family devotions were so GOOD, but we dropped it for being in church, not realizing at the time that it was a bad decision.” Arlean
“I been out of “organized religion“ for many years now and I am closer to God than ever before.“ Tracy Parker
Not all fellowships and yet….. organized religion can many times seduce us AWAY from Christ and not endear us to Him. See Colossians 2:18-19.
Sharon Matthews writes:
“The modern church keeps their flock dependent on them. They also keep them busy doing different things instead of giving them the Word of God regarding becoming a disciple of Jesus. Following Jesus will cost them their way of life. Obedience is a byword, not a reality for most. It’s easier to go somewhere to listen to men instead of searching the Scriptures for real life in Christ. Many fill their mind with Scripture but don’t care to act on it—give up their own life in exchange for the life of Christ in them. Sloppy grace is everywhere! Churches (not all) don’t want to lose people, or teach children God’s Word, they might get offended and leave. Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life. He said, come follow Me.”
The Bible truth is assembling to fellowship (Acts 2:42; Heb 10:25). As was the case when Jesus got here, the organized church was completely apostate. We have virtually (at least) the same today. There were no church buildings in the early church. Not a penny was collected to build a physical building either – especially not to build the real estate property for a man or men to use as their headquarters to make merchandise of the people, turning the house of prayer into a den of thieves (2 Peter 2:1-3; Matthew 21:12-17, etc.).
Jon Crane writes:
“I think the day the church sold itself to the state was when it became a 501c3. That very act of treason yoked them to mammon and divorced them from Christ. Just something I have been thinking about when I look at how God had to chasten Israel many times in the Old Testament. It always happened when they would forget God and chase after the things of this world. If I behaved this way in my marriage…well, I’m pretty sure I would get served. Yet, so many believe that God is okay with them cheating, as if they can force Jesus to bring the filthiness of their sin into His holy presence!
To the godly, seeing Jesus face to face in heaven will be the greatest joy, but I dare say; to never have to see my sin again will be a close second!”
All organized religion is false. Jesus and His apostles did not start any organization nor did they collect a penny to build a so-called “church” building – such is usually the work of wolves who exist to make “merchandise of you” (2 Peter 2:1-3). The Son of God and His holy apostles and the early church operated autonomously and were led and empowered by the Word and Holy Spirit of God. 501(C)(3) “churches” are stated owned, totally compromised, apostate. Run. Denounce. The Savior never sent anyone to sign up with the state to get permission to do His work.
“My kingdom is not of this world.” John 18:36
“Ye are bought with a price; be not ye the servants of men.” 1 Corinthians 7:23
“Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? 15 And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? 16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. 17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you, 18 And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.” 2 Corinthians 6:14-18
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“I got out of the apostate “church” about 3 or 4 years ago now. Can’t fellowship with any of those people now.” D.
REPLY:
This is the direction of Christ for His remnant. 2 Cor 6:17; Rev 18:4-5
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“The church comprises born again believers not a building. There are some great churches. DL Moody was used by God in a church in Chicago and in many churches in America and the UK. I have never been to a church that is controlled by the state. You can not say all churches are comprised many ARE but been to many that preach the Word without comprise and state control. I have heard many who preach repentance and hell. Attended a church, before his message the preacher got on his knees and prayed and ended every prayer to preach in the power of the Holy Spirit, that Sinners would not go to a place called hell. The Methodist recently had a split and came out from the United Methodist that are very comprised. Now they are independent Methodist.” Paul
REPLY:
You err here: I didn’t say all churches are controlled by the state but rather all 501C3 churches ARE. And that’s 100% truth. They signed a contract, they signed allegiance to the gov’t of mere men. Did Jesus, the prophets, or the apostle do such? No. You bear false witness as you state: “I have never been to a church that is controlled by the state.” EVERY church you’ve been to that is under a 501 C3 is state controlled without exception. For example, name even one of the churches you’ve been to that didn’t conform to the demonic, God-despising mask and 6 foot rule…. waiting. Yeah, I thought so – zero.
Whatever Wesley and Moody were, is all long gone. Moody institute was long ago taken over by the Vatican and I’ve got lots of personal experience with that. The UMC is also ecumenical, totally false, apostate.
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MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“This is called catastrophising. There’s a fair amount of truth in what you say, but you are making absolute statements that can’t be be absolutely true.
The biblical standard for absolute truth is that it must be absolutely true and your post just isn’t. Sorry.
I’ve been in churches for most of my six decades of walking with the Lord and I agree with much of what you say, but I draw the line at making this kind of sweeping generalisation and then implicitly condemning anyone and everyone who is part of a church. That is not biblical.
Go read what God said to Elijah on Mt Horeb, about how many people in Israel God had reserved for a remnant.
You mustn’t condemn people en masse this way. And you must not make absolute statements that don’t match the biblical standard of absolute truth. That is a sin.” Alan Heron
REPLY:
Apparently, there are no absolutes in your faulty thinking. There’s a spiritual undercurrent to your influences…. and such is not going unnoticed. Again, you err. Notice, contrary to your false statement alleging that I condemned people en masse, notice that the original post stated that all ORGANIZED RELIGION, not people, is false. Did this post say all groups who assemble are false OR that all who minister are false? That is a yes or a no. Waiting. Let me help you: No, it said all organized religion, all that is religiously organized 501c3 etc… is false and I stand on that as the truth. Your years of serving God as you allege, have nothing to do with the truth, so you may wish to leave such out next time.
Jezebel’s Table – ORGANIZED RELIGION – compromised, took the bribe to be paid, receive a salary, are under contract to tickled ears, to dodge, to purposely evade the hard truths of Scripture…. ALL false.
The 7,000 God speaks of were all like JTB and Christ and His apostles and prophets… independent of the entanglements, the corporatized conspiracies (Ezek. 22:25-27) of mere men and “there is no new thing under the sun” (Ecclesiastes 1:9). Remember how early in this chapter (1 Kings 18), the beloved Obadiah fed the non-corporatized 100 true prophets who refused to come under the fraud banner of state religion? They refused to organize with the fraud religious leaders who tucked their feet under jezebel’s table which means they were bought and paid for by the state, the religion of the 501 C3 type contract of their day. The 100 true prophets were independent, autonomous, more safe from the heard mentality and conformity – just like Jesus, the prophets, and apostles.
“Yet I have left me seven thousand in Israel, all the knees which have not bowed unto Baal (ALL the organized religionists did bow!), and every mouth which hath not kissed him. 1 Kings 19:18
“Now therefore send, and gather to me all Israel unto mount Carmel, and the prophets of Baal four hundred and fifty, and the prophets of the groves four hundred, which eat at JEZEBEL’S TABLE.” 1Ki_18:19
Arlean Benedict Kelley
“Yes. I’ve been to many state conventions and it’s like going to a business conference. Which church has added the most members, etc. But they are trying to do good with the best they know, I think.”
Elton Mishoe writes:
“I pastored 12 years in a “church” of 200. Tried to teach that every service. Higher ups couldn’t stand me. Lol. Finally gave a 10 year lease on that brick and mortar to another ministry and let them have it. Brick and mortar will perish and is only a meeting place. Church is where 2 or 3 are gathered in his name. Want to know the truth? go to the pastors, the higher ups in a denomination and ask to see salaries and benefits lol. Almost impossible to get the truth. Get involved with pastor meetings and watch them talk about nothing but ways to get more money into the church. I’ve Been there done it.
Most organized religion is 100% business and if a pastor bucks the system he is blackballed until he finally leaves or they get something to try to charge him with.
YES there are some pastors that give their life for the calling because they don’t consider it a job. But to most it’s a job. They use churches as stepping stones to get to the next bigger paying church. But it’s also the people’s fault they want all the bells and whistles and programs and the prestige of a huge church.
Worthy Pastors with no other income should be taken care of that’s biblical. Church of God is crooked as crooked gets, this one I know for a fact (1 Corinthians 9:1-14; 1 Timothy 5:17-18, etc.). Others are the same I’m sure. Want a good church? Good luck.”
One disciple of Jesus writes:
“At the last church I attended the pastor frequently said something like, “if you were a real Christian you would want to be in church every time the doors were open.” Goodness! that laid a huge guilt trip on me and others!
Being “in church” all the time took me away from learning about my God and Savior.
When I measured the time spent getting dressed and ready for church, driving to church, being in church, driving home from church, stopping at the store on my way from church and changing clothes after being in church I found that “church” consumed more of my time than Bible study.
I’m so thankful the Lord put an end to that for me and my husband. We now spend a LOT more time studying and getting to know our heavenly Father better than ever before. We have a home Bible study where we reach folks who would never “go” to a church but still love God, or one sister who thought she was being a good Christian and doing what God expected of her only to realize how far off base she’s been all these years.
Hallelujah!”
Clare R. Watts writes:
“Standing in the garage doesn’t make you a car. Hiding in the pantry doesn’t make you a jar of pickles, either. Going to church doesn’t save you, let alone make you a Believer! Surrendering to the Lord, obeying, trusting and following Jesus does.”
Jenny Douglas writes:
“Sadly with the rise of apostasy, false teaching, losing freedoms, etc., more and more of the remnant may have ‘church’ as the early followers did, from house to house. I see it coming.”
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