Soaking, Witchcraft, and the Manifest Presence of God

God wants His people to be full of His Holy Spirit, His bless-ed divine presence and yet, how are we going about seeing this manifest in our lives?

YOU can cry out till you’re blue in the face and God will not anoint your filthy heart! A devil might but not the HOLY Spirit of God! Repentance is what God commands of you (Ezekiel 18:30; Hosea 14:1-2; Acts 3:19; 17:30-31, etc.).

WHO does God exclusively fill with His presence and blessings? Jesus told us that only those who humbly and obediently seek His face, according to His Word, “shall be filled.”

“Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled.” Matthew 5:6

The Holy Ghost of God fills and manifests Himself to those who OBEY JESUS and not because we gather in a room and seek to conjure Him up, asking Him to “fall upon us.” Witchcraft. Isn’t that the “strange fire,” the witchcraft we see in the false prophets on Mount Carmel who cried out in vain for fire to fall from Heaven? (See Leviticus 10:1-2; 1 Kings 18.) Jesus told us to lay down our lives, to repent, to deny self, take up the cross and follow Him. The HOLY Spirit of God doesn’t fall upon dirty hearts but rather anoints, and fills obedient servants! (Read John 14:21-23.) Pour prayerfully over the words of Jesus recorded in John chapters 14-15 and let’s cease the frivolity and rebellion and simply do things GOD’s way. Charismatic witchcraft busted and exposed! Repent now and cry out to God to clean your heart to the core, to deeply instill in you the holy fear of the LORD, and to make your conscience ultra sensitive! (Psalms 51; 139:23-24, etc.)

“Overcome in Your presence” and language like this flood the music and messages of the modern church world. And, so, we have a generation of “prophetic” counterfeits who are waiting around for God to do something. He won’t because they ask “amiss” or with the wrong motive, while in disobedience to what He already stated in His Word, the “MORE sure word of prophecy” (2 Peter 1:16-21).

“Ye lust, and have not: ye kill, and desire to have, and cannot obtain: ye fight and war, yet ye have not, because ye ask not. 3 Ye ask, and receive not, because ye ask amiss, that ye may consume it upon your lusts.” James 4:2-3

Jesus tells us how God works and it’s on record in John 14:21, 23. He and the Father abide with and manifest themselves to those who obey Him… not those who have a mere form of godliness as they seek the LORD to come upon them in a special way while they are not obeying Him. Counterfeits.

ATTN: This post is not from a cessationist dupe! Pentecost is real and an essential part of New Testament Christianity…. yet not the witchcraft of the charismatic, Bethel cult…. We are in deep need of true repentance – the denial of self, dying to self, the cross – the crucified life, brokenness, holiness, and the holy fear of God….. you are never going to hear these things, the essential cross, in the NAR cult.

Satanic wolf Rodney Howard Browne states:

“I’d rather be in a church where the devil and the flesh are manifesting than in a church where nothing is happening because people are too afraid to manifest anything… and if a devil manifests, don’t worry about that either. Rejoice because at least something is happening.”

IF you are not connecting to Jesus on HIS terms, the WORD and obedience to Him, and you think you are flourishing spiritually because you believe you found a “good church,” you are being deceived! 2 Thessalonians 2:9-12 is transpiring in the lives of many who swear they are right with God. Beware.

JESUS told no one to “go find a good church” but rather to repent, to seek His holy face, to obey Him, to take up the cross daily, and to follow HIM!!!! HIM!

MANY who believe they’ve found “a good church” are being poisoned by that “church.” HAVE you walked into a trap that you erroneously believe is a treasure?

It’s a bless-ed desire to want more of the LORD in our lives! Yet, we must ask how God prescribes that this happens.

SO very many of the disobedient cry out for the glory, the presence of the Almighty Holy Ghost to fall on them in their rebellion. Not going to happen. Jesus says: Repent, lay down your life, take up the daily cross, and follow Him (Luke 9:23-24; John 14:21-23; 15:1-7). Only then will He raise you upward to give HIM glory and not you (1 Corinthians 1:29-31). There’s a biblical prescription for walking in the blessing of God’s Holy Ghost and it doesn’t include living a carnal life and then gathering with others and asking God to anoint your evil heart with His HOLY Spirit. That’s not what Scripture teaches.

Authentic Pentecost! Yes, we certainly do need to be initially baptized with the Holy Ghost and refilled daily. For the record: By the grace of Christ alone, He saved and filled with His Holy Ghost this once wretched man. This disciple is a full Gospel believer by Jesus’ grace and yet authentic Pentecost and not the false charismatic or NAR cults which are a demonic mockery and counterfeit.

If you want the presence of God in your life, simply live obediently to Him (John 15). There are no shortcuts.

To hear the voice of God, simply read HIS Word – the Bible (KJB). So many today in the false flake “prophetic” movement talk about “hearing the voice of God” repeatedly and yet the WORD is never mentioned! Delusion! Run! Prophetic or Pathetic?

The point of this message is not to deny that every disciple of Jesus is to be filled with the Holy Ghost but rather to establish the whole truth, expose the counterfeits of Satan.

Seeking His Presence? Beware of the many methods created and cloaked as Christian which are nothing more than an attempt to conjure up God’s presence out of a self-serving agenda. Contemplative prayer and soaking come to mind as Satan’s counterfeits. Soaking: Is It Biblical?

ARE you seeking to experience God OR to KNOW HIM? (John 17:3)

“SOAKING” IS SIN. Repent sinner! There is no such thing as “soaking” in God’s Word as it’s defined today by the witchcraft NAR (New Apostolic Reformation) cult!

Simply put, contemplative prayer or centering prayer, is a way of praying that is not according to the biblical prescription. Contemplative prayer, spiritual formation, and soakers are simply rebels who refuse to obey Jesus so they want Jesus to just continue to dump His Holy Spirit on their rebellious hearts.

JESUS told you to die, not to run around seeking His presence in contemplative prayer or soaking meetings – with other self-serving flakes, counterfeits. He’ll decide how much of His holy presence He puts in/on individuals – according to their personal obedience. He alone decides how much of His presence He chooses to put in our lives.

Some who defend this occultic “soaking” movement attempt to justify such by the supposed “joy” it brings. But is that the true “joy of the LORD” or a cheap counterfeit of the enemy. Well, here’s how the Bible teaches that God’s people have joy.

“Thy words were found, and I did eat them; and thy word was unto me the joy and rejoicing of mine heart: for I am called by thy name, O LORD God of hosts.” Jeremiah 15:16 

WHAT and WHY did Jeremiah say was “the joy and rejoicing of mine heart”? -“Thy words were found, and I did eat them.” It’s real simple: Jeremiah devoured the Word of God and was therefore filled with the joy of the LORD.

Beware of counterfeit joy!

Did you realize that the context of Nehemiah 8:10 is the Word? Read the text – Nehemiah 8:1-10. Watch this:

“So they read in the book in the law of God (the Word) distinctly, and gave the sense, and caused them to understand the reading … the joy of the LORD is your strength.” Nehemiah 8:8, 10

Psalms 16 is prophetic of Jesus who rendered perfect obedience to His Father: “For thou wilt not leave my (Jesus’) soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption. 11 Thou wilt shew me the path of life: in thy presence is fulness of joy; at thy right hand there are pleasures for evermore.” (Psalms 16:10-11)

The “presence” of the LORD and “fulness of joy” He alone can give, only comes with the genuine disciple who is truly walking with Christ. We see this throughout Scripture.

“In his presence” sure is “fulness of joy,” and He requires our obedience to bring us into His presence (Psalms 16:11).

“For he whom God hath sent (Christ) speaketh the words of God (fully obedient): for God giveth not the Spirit by measure unto him.” John 3:34

As seen in the above verse, where Christ is our example, the LORD’s presence in our lives is contingent upon our abiding in Him, obeying Him (John 14:21-23; 15:1-16, etc.). Seeking His presence without obeying Him, truly worshiping HIM, reveals a self-serving nature. Should we not simply seek His face and not just His joy? Did the LORD not plainly tell us that He will give us His joy and presence if we seek Him with a whole heart? (See Jeremiah 29:11-14.)

“He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him…. 23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.” John 14:21, 23

IF you truly want more of the presence of the LORD, no need to mindlessly sit soaking or meditating. Get up and obey and then and only then will He graciously grant you greater anointing and reward!

We are to immerse ourself in His Word – Joshua 1:8, not mindless meditation which is new age paganism.

Many today want God to do more for them, they want more of His presence and to “soak” and yet, they’ve not obeyed Him and His simplest instructions. Not going to happen.

YOU can pray till you are blue in the face and God will not hear if you will not repent and literally obey Him: Proverbs 28:9 says: “He that turneth away his ear from hearing the law (Word), even his prayer shall be abomination.”

“IF IF IF ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you.” John 15:7

Are you truly abiding in Jesus – according to HIS definition of such? Of course we should seek and ask Him to be anointed and full of His Spirit in order to DO His work, and yet, such comes from laying down our lives – which He then raises upward by His presence.

“Always bearing about in the body the dying of the Lord Jesus, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our body. 11 For we which live are alway delivered unto death for Jesus’ sake, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our mortal flesh. 12 So then death worketh in us, but life in you.” 2 Corinthians 4:10-12

The resurrection presence, life, glory, and power of Jesus fills and raises up the truly obedient – those who resign themselves to the crucified life.

Nancy Cote notes:

“This movement is growing by leaps and bounds because this generation loves signs and wonders and what their itching ears want more than Sola Scripture of solid doctrine. Dying to self and picking up their cross and preaching of The Cross that is foolishness to them.”

Yet, Jesus’ presence does not come to us just because WE want it to. Isn’t a preoccupation with seeking His presence while not obeying Him cloaked pride? There are conditions to be met – obedience and truly worshiping HIM are essential. This is in contrast to seeking His presence for our self-serving purposes. Remember how the disciples wanted to sit at His right and and His left?

“Then came to him the mother of Zebedee’s children with her sons, worshipping him, and desiring a certain thing of him. 21 And he said unto her, What wilt thou? She saith unto him, Grant that these my two sons may sit, the one on thy right hand, and the other on the left, in thy kingdom. 22 But Jesus answered and said, Ye know not what ye ask. Are ye able to drink of the cup that I shall drink of, and to be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with? They say unto him, We are able. 23 And he saith unto them, Ye shall drink indeed of my cup, and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with: but to sit on my right hand, and on my left, is not mine to give, but it shall be given to them for whom it is prepared of my Father.” Matthew 20:20-23

When you die (lay down your life) He will reciprocate with His resurrection life (2 Corinthians 4:10-12). That’s His promise but you must die to experience this, not try to control things yourself which is further evidence that you are not dying to self. He’s in control, not you.

Fact: Jesus says that to those who OBEY Him – live by faith – will be granted His presence, not those who selfishly seek to soak or conjure up His presence through their own merit or works for their own self–serving purposes.

Isn’t seeking His presence without obedience paramount to seeking signs instead of the Savior Himself? Trusting God by abiding in intimate fellowship and obedience to Him will always bring His holy presence in our lives. Read what Jesus says in John 14:21-23.

What did Jesus say of the sign seekers?

“Then certain of the scribes and of the Pharisees answered, saying, Master, we would see a sign from thee. 39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas:” Matthew 12:38-39

Seeking His Presence or Simply Obeying Christ?

“He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him. 22 Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world? 23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.” John 14:21-23

Today, so many who vainly believe they are Christ’s, are being misled into self-seeking experiences they are told are of God. Quite a contrast with New Testament disciples of Jesus we read about in the 27 book canon. The honest student of Scripture and follower of Jesus knows that a walk of faith, a denial of self (the cross), and being soundly grounded in the Word, is the walk of a true New Testament believer.

You want God’s Holy Ghost on your life? OBEY HIM:

“And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him.” Acts 5:32

It seems that today, many people claiming to know Jesus seek to do anything except soberly and soundly follow Him, denying self, taking up the cross, and abiding in Him.

According to Jesus, in the end, at the Judgment, those who loved and obeyed Him will be received into glory and remain with Him eternally. In contrast, those who revel in the experiential, not being rooted in Christ, will be terminated into the bowels of eternal damnation (Matthew 7:21-23).

The Soaking Scam of the NAR (New Apostolic Reformation) Cult: Beware.

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