Is Obeying Jesus Legalism or Lordship Salvation? [podcast]
Easy believism/eternal security is the doctrine of moral cowards who refuse to truly repent, deny self, take up the cross and follow Jesus for real, daily (Luke 9:23-24). This is why they claim that so-called “lordship salvation” is false. These counterfeits love their darkness rather than light and cloak themselves behind these heresies “turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness.” (John 3:19-21; Jude 3-4) They refuse all personal responsibility to truly be accountable to the LORD for every thought, word, deed, and motive.
Obeying God is the command of God and an expression of our love for Him – and not an attempt to get Him to accept us. We are “accepted in the beloved” who is Christ (Ephesians 1:6).
So you claim to be saved for Heaven and yet you aren’t saved from sin? Have you read Matthew 1:21; John 1:29; Romans 6:1-11; Titus 2:11-14; and 1 John 3?
“What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? 2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?” Romans 6:1-2
Keep in mind that those who condemningly ostracize those they say teach “Lordship salvation” are the exact same heretics who peddle Satan’s original life, which in our day is call things like “eternal security” or “once saved always saved.” (Genesis 2:17;3:4)
The message of Jesus and His apostles clearly differs from the modern church message. | Did Jesus and His Apostles Teach Eternal Security?
The apostate modern church refuses to acknowledge that the LORD is “Holy, holy, holy” and that He commands all who will know Him to “Be ye holy; for I am holy” (Isaiah 6:3; Revelation 4:8; 1 Peter 1:15-16). Most modern pastors teach that salvation, once received, is a free pass to live in sin and still be saved into Heaven in the end. The big question is, who will you believe? Will you declare with the apostle Paul, “Let God be true and every man a liar”? Or, will you cling to heresy, tradition, and be irrevocably damned in the end? (Romans 3:4)
Many wish to be bonded to hell, to lies, to falsehood. They cling to their heretical traditions, setting aside the very Word of God to do so (Mark 7:6-9).
“Because ye have said, We have made a covenant with death, and with hell are we at agreement; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, it shall not come unto us: for we have made lies our refuge, and under falsehood have we hid ourselves:” Isaiah 28:15
ANY PERSON WHO BELIEVES THE DEMONIC HERESY OF UN-CONDITIONAL ETERNAL SECURITY, WILL NOT FEAR GOD OR TAKE SIN SERIOUSLY AS GOD WHO IS “HOLY, HOLY, HOLY” DOES (ISAIAH 6:3; REVELATION 4:8).
“There is no fear of God before their eyes.” Romans 3:18
To be turned from “the snares of death” one must fear the LORD.
“The fear of the LORD is a fountain of life, to depart from the snares of death.” Proverbs 14:27
Holiness is essential for eternal glory.
“But as he which hath called you is holy, so be ye holy in all manner of conversation; 16 Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy.” 1 Peter 1:15-16
OSAS/eternal security is a lie from hell. OSAS was Satan’s first lie and so it’s blasphemy to teach this doctrine of devils and claim it’s part of the Gospel. You are attributing Satan’s lie to the LORD Jesus. Repent now sinner. See Genesis 2:17; 3:4; Romans 11:20-22; 1 Timothy 4:1; Hebrews 3:6, 12-14; 10:26-39; 2 Peter 2:20-21; Jude 4, etc..
The concept of an un-conditional eternal security is not established in Scripture… except for it being Satan’s first teaching, His first lie – the “Ye shall NOT surely die” lie (Genesis 2:17; 3:4).
MESSAGE FROM A LADY WHO HEARD AN “ENDURE TO THE END” VIDEO THE MINISTRY HAS:
“Stay away from these legalists. We are saved by grace, not works. No we are not saved by the law. Jesus came to fulfill the law. He is our only way to heaven, not are good deeds.”
REPLY:
Since when is obeying Jesus, adhering to the whole of what He said, legalism? Regrettably, some just want to use Jesus to get to Heaven, to escape hell, yet want nothing to do with the cross, the crucified life on this earth that Jesus commanded (Luke 9:23-24). These self-serving people believe somehow that THEY can tell Jesus what’s going on, that THEY set the terms of the relationship – instead of humbly, honestly reading His words and adhering to them. Jesus makes it clear that those who are “of God” hear and obey His words (John 8:47; 14:21). They do not make up their own way or follow some “false way” prescribed by the grace perverting wolves the LORD warns us about specifically (Psalms 119:104, 128; Jude 3-4).
“He that is of God heareth God’s words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.” John 8:47 (memory truth)
So was Jesus a legalist?
“Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.” Matthew 7:21
“Preaching the narrow way is not legalism. Correction is not persecution. And warning is not condemnation! Grow up a little bit!” Unknown
To those who refuse to truly repent and lay down their lives in this present world, obedience to Jesus, the One they claim they are saved by, becomes something of legalism. Sad.
“OSAS creates believers who emphasize faith in Jesus while dismissing obedience to His commandments as self righteousness, trying to earn salvation, trusting in your own works etc.” Teddy Caldwell
So if your husband or wife requires something of you, does that make them a legalist? If they require that you be faithful in your marriage, does that make them a works-based legalist? Isn’t fidelity simply a condition of a loving, pure, secure relationship? If so, why do you whine and balk that Jesus would require that you be holy (set apart), deny self, take up the cross daily, abiding, continuing, enduring to the end with Him?
Let’s talk about grace and what it really looks like when someone is possessed by it:
“For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, 12 Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;” Titus 2:11-12
According to Titus 2:11-12, what 5 things do we see in the life of the true born again, saved by grace, abiding, Heaven bound disciple of Jesus? What is divine grace teaching them?
- To deny ungodliness in this present world
- To deny worldly lusts in this present world
- To live soberly in this present world
- To live righteously in this present world
- To live godly in this present world
The saving grace of God in Christ is not a license to live in sin but rather the full provision of God to overcome all sin – through the cross lifestyle (Romans 6:1-16). Divine grace enables the abiding believer to overcome all that displeases the LORD and to be fruitful in ministering His true, saving grace in Christ to others.
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Those who are truly saved by grace are fighting the good fight of faith, abiding, remaining in Christ, enduring to the end. They are choosing to love Jesus supremely, not self (Revelation 2:4-5).
WHO we truly love, who is our “first love” is the issue (Revelation 2:4-5). Those who balk at obeying Jesus simply do not love Him. Those who obey Him joyfully prove they truly love Him.
“For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.” 1 John 5:3
If your view of serving God is drudgery, you are deceived and in need of getting into His Word.
Those who espouse the eternal security heresy simply want Jesus to forgive the sins they choose to live in and to guarantee bringing them to Heaven when they die. They don’t love Jesus enough to obey Him, to live the crucified life, and to confess all sin. No, in their corrupted, self-serving mind they vainly imagine they can use Christ to get them to Heaven, to miss hell, while they live to please self instead of the Savior. Total rebels.
“Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.” Matthew 7:21-23
Since when have you seen a married couple who doesn’t have conditions? When’s the last time you heard a couple get married and then say “Well, I’ll do whatever I wish. You don’t tell me what to do or not to do!” ???? In other words, are there no conditions set forth in the marriage vows, in the marriage to keep the integrity of that marriage, such as fidelity and not adultery?
Those who believe they are not accountable to abide in and obey Jesus are spiritual adulterers, just like the five foolish virgins who were engaged to Jesus but were shut out of the eternal bridal chamber for not continuing with Him (Matthew 25:1-13). They got saved yet didn’t remain faithful to their Fiancé (Jesus) and were ousted. | Wisdom for Wise Virgins
The thought of being accountable to Jesus, to obeying Him, is abhorrant to the un-repentant counterfeit who is living this life to please themself, not Christ.
Jesus says to those who have left their first love, who “art fallen,” that they must “repent” or they will be removed.
“Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast left thy first love. 5 Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent.” Revelation 2:4-5
“But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.” Matthew 24:13
“If a man abide (remain, continue) not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned (hell).” John 15:6
Grace can be fallen from, lost:
“Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; YE ARE FALLEN FROM GRACE.” Galatians 5:4
It’s true that no one can be saved by law keeping. No one here even hinted that anyone can be saved by law (Rom 10:4). Yet Jesus gives conditions for HIS salvation, many of which counterfeits want nothing to do with. Jesus says to His very own that they must endure to the end, they must abide in Him to the end or they will be burned in the fire (Matthew 24:13; John 15:6). All of His apostles taught the same through out the New Testament (Romans 11:20-22; Colossians 1:22-23; Hebrews 3:6, 12-15; 10:26-39; 2 Peter 2:20-21, etc.).
Since when is obeying Jesus law keeping? Since when is obeying Jesus, adhering to the whole of what He said, legalism?
“If ye love me, keep my commandments. … He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.” John 14:15, 21
“Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you.” John 15:14
“God is love” and so if there’s no love in the relationship between you and Him, God isn’t in it! Do we desire and pant for Him? Think about that (1 John 4:8, 16).
Wouldn’t our worship-filled obedience to our Savior be an expression of our love for Him? Yes. The good fruit of obedience saves no one and yet, those truly saved WILL have the fruit of good works.
“He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.” 1 John 2:4
“They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.” Titus 1:16
“For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. 21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.” 2 Peter 2:20-21
Paul reminds us Gentiles believers of how God “cut off” His own people, the Jews, when they rebelled against Him, and that He will also “cut off” any of us who do not continue in His goodness and severity (Romans 11:20-22). Any person who rejects this truth is a grace-perverting, sin-justifying fraud who has made a fake god in their own image due to the refusal to truly repent.
The eternal securist is willingly indoctrinated and intentionally, deceitfully selective in the way he interprets Scripture. Beware.
Read the book of Hebrews.
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The Harvest is Coming for all those Sowing the Seed of the Word [podcast]
The Joy and Expectation of Seed Sowing
What we sow, we can expect to reap (Galatians 6:7-8).
As we continue to sow the good, the incorruptible seed of God’s Word into the hearts of men, good news will continue to flow, will continue to be reaped – because God’s Word prospers in the thing where He sends it! See also 1 Peter 1:23.
“So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.” Isaiah 55:11
The following song captures the need, the importance, and the urgency of reaching the lost souls around us:
Voices, by the band Harvest
Words and Music by Jerry Williams
Voices in the city, voices in the street.
Voices in each home across the land.
Voices in the churches, saying “Peace, be still.”
Where are all the voices in My fields?
Chorus:
Millions and millions dying.
Millions and millions crying.
Millions and millions don’t know who I am.
Children on the highways
Children on the run.
Mothers in the alley ways,
They’re killing all their sons.
The world is blinded in darkness.
I’ve given them the way.
Where are all My voices to lead them out today?
(Repeat chorus)
Where are the millions who love Me?
Where are the millions who say they know Me?
Where are the millions who’ll stand and follow Me?
Exactly where you are is part of “all the world.”
“And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. 16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.” Mark 16:15-16
Also, Jesus gives His Gospel as an ultimatum. Is Jesus intending that we bring the hearers of His Gospel to a decision? Seems like it. Read the passage again.
“So today I was driving through our town and saw a guy sitting on his porch reading a Jesus tract! Praise Jesus. I prayed that the words he was reading would be sealed in his heart! They are being left throughout our town. Everyday I put one on top of a newspaper stand. It is always gone next day! Seeds of God’s Word are being planted all over our town and will not return void! Isaiah 55:11. Hallelujah!” Karen Cochran
As Christ’s laborers our duty, getting the seed of our LORD’s Word into the hearts of the people, is of the utmost divine priority.
“The seed is the word of God.” Luke 8:11
Sinners are brought to Jesus, are born again, by way of the incorruptible seed of the Word of God being sown into their hearts.
“Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.” 1 Peter 2:23
When His seed is sown, God can bring the increase of conviction, drawing, and salvation (John 12:32; Romans 1:16, etc.).
“I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase. 7 So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase. 8 Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one: and every man shall receive his own reward according to his own labour. 9 For we are labourers together with God: ye are God’s husbandry, ye are God’s building.” 1 Corinthians 3:6-9
The conversion of the soul to Christ comes by way of the Word of God.
“The law (Word) of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple.” Psalm 19:7
What’s the future look like for those who sow, plant God’s Word in the hearts of men?
“They that sow in tears shall reap in joy. 6 He that goeth forth and weepeth, bearing precious seed, shall doubtless come again with rejoicing, bringing his sheaves (harvest) with him.” Psalms 126:5-6
“Just letting you know I’ve been putting those JESUS tracts in empty gym lockers when I go to the gym and praying that God’s Spirit moves on the hearts of the people that get one! And as you know He can do it! Have a Blessed Day.” Laurie Cox
Read, download the print-ready pdf of the JESUS tract here.
“Therefore, my beloved brethren, be ye stedfast, unmoveable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, forasmuch as ye know that your labour is not in vain in the Lord.” 1 Corinthians 15:58
“1 Corinthians 15: 58. This verse is for all of us who labor for the Lord. We are to be unshakable. Letting nothing move us from the hope of the gospel. We are servants of Christ ever ‘abounding in the work of the Lord.’ Abounding in the furthering of the gospel. Our labor ‘in the Lord’ will be rewarded. Yesterday the Lord gave me a small reward seeing that man sitting on his porch reading the Jesus tract. And since we are laborers together it is a small reward for all of us! We, each member of Christ’s body, the world over, are team Jesus! And He is our eternal reward! We shall be with Him forever in the New Jerusalem!” Karen Cochran
“For God is not unrighteous to forget your work and labour of love, which ye have shewed toward his name, in that ye have ministered to the saints, and do minister. 11 And we desire that every one of you do shew the same diligence to the full assurance of hope unto the end: 12 That ye be not slothful, but followers of them who through faith and patience inherit the promises.” Hebrews 6:10-12
YOUR PRAYER: Heavenly Father, You sent Your only begotten Son to rescue, to forgive, to save me. If You can find and save me, You can find and save anyone! Please prepare and use me LORD Jesus. Into Thy holy hands I here and now submit my spirit to Thee dear LORD. I love You Jesus. In Jesus’ name. Amen.
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“The Supply of the Spirit of Jesus Christ” [podcast]
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EVER Seen This Verse? Just Wow! PRAYERS appropriate the divine fuel from Heaven saints!!!! Check out this verse! Please hit SHARE to bless Christ’s body!
Do we even begin to realize the profound and immeasurable potential that lies in the power link of prayer? Jesus Christ is forever at His Father’s right hand making intercession for all of His beloved people (Heb. 7:24-25; 10:19-22).
Okay are you ready for a truth that is going to change your life forever? Read the following Bible verse slowly and for all it’s worth, drinking it in:
“For I know that this shall turn to my salvation (blessings, deliverance, and provision) through your prayer, and the supply of the Spirit of Jesus Christ.” Philippians 1:19
Whatever you do today, grab this Bible verse which will then be with you all your days!
In speaking to Christian people he was in fellowship with, this disciple of Jesus – no different than you and I – said that it was “through your prayer” that “the supply of the Spirit of Jesus Christ” was given to him in his life! Did you catch that?!
How does the LORD bless His people when we pray for them? Is it not by giving them a greater portion and measure of “the supply of the Spirit of Jesus Christ”?
LIFE CHANGING NUGGET FROM GOD’S WORD
How many of us are thrilled that “the supply of the Spirit of Jesus Christ” comes upon us by way of, as a result of the prayers of His saints? Wow!
Let’s read it again:
“For I know that this shall turn to my salvation (deliverance, safety, blessings) through your prayer, and the supply of the Spirit of Jesus Christ,” Philippians 1:19
Did you realize that the person or people you pray for are given a fresh and greater portion of “the Spirit of Jesus Christ”? According to this insightful truth out of the Holy Spirit inspired pen of the apostle Paul, the Father in Heaven blesses those we lift in prayer with the blessed Person and work of the Holy Spirit. “The spirit of Jesus Christ” is dispensed and poured out into the hearts and lives of those we pray for! This is what Paul told us was happening to him as the saints prayed for him.
Prayerlessness is Sin
Make no mistake, prayerlessness is a sin. Prayerlessness is direct disobedience to the command of God. Prayerlessness is a manifestation of faithlessness. Prayerlessness is the epitome of self-trust and self-dependency. Prayerlessness is the rejection of God in your life – the refusal to trust Him (Matthew 26:41).
“Watch and pray, that ye enter not into temptation: the spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak.” Matthew 26:41
YOUR PRAYER LIFE IS A CLEAR MEASURE OF HOW MUCH YOU LOVE GOD-OR NOT. love, to seek, to worship, and to trust Him. No need to seek God in prayer when pride and self-sufficiency reign on the throne of one’s heart.
The power of God working in us will be according to that which comes into us as we pray (Matthew 26:41).
PRAYER: Father in Heaven, in the name of Jesus, please forgive me for taking prayer communion, supplications (humble requests), praying for others, and prayer requests for granted. Forgive me also for the sin of prayerlessness and for not lifting others in prayer more. Thank You LORD for the unspeakable, incredible blessing of prayer. Your perfect sacrificial blood on that cross made our access to the Father possible and speaks for Your people in Heaven right now and forevermore! Jesus, please bless Your people to be faithful to request those things You have revealed in Your Word for each other! Thank You Father for pouring out Your Holy Spirit upon Your people afresh this hour and also every time we lift each other to You in prayer! Thank You right now for the supply of the Spirit of Jesus Christ being poured out on Your beloved people. In Jesus’ Name, Amen.
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“Now the God of peace, that brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, that great shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the everlasting covenant …” Hebrews 13:20
“To him the porter openeth; and the sheep hear his voice: and he calleth his own sheep by name, and leadeth them out.” John 10:3
“My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: 28 and I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. 29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father’s hand.” John 10:27-29
“This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3 without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, 4 traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; 5 having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. 6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, 7 ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. 8 Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith. 9 But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all men, as theirs also was.
10 But thou hast fully known my doctrine, manner of life, purpose, faith, longsuffering, charity, patience, 11 persecutions, afflictions, which came unto me at Antioch, at Iconium, at Lystra; what persecutions I endured: but out of them all the Lord delivered me. 12 Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution. 13 But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.” 2 Timothy 3:1-13
“And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me. 24 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: but whosoever will lose his life for my sake, the same shall save it. 25 For what is a man advantaged, if he gain the whole world, and lose himself, or be cast away?” Luke 9:23-25
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