Is Obeying Jesus Legalism or Lordship Salvation? [podcast]

Easy believism/eternal security is the doctrine of moral cowards who refuse to truly repent, deny self, take up the cross and follow Jesus for real, daily (Luke 9:23-24). This is why they claim that so-called “lordship salvation” is false. These counterfeits love their darkness rather than light and cloak themselves behind these heresies “turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness.” (John 3:19-21; Jude 3-4) They refuse all personal responsibility to truly be accountable to the LORD for every thought, word, deed, and motive.

Obeying God is the command of God and an expression of our love for Him – and not an attempt to get Him to accept us. We are “accepted in the beloved” who is Christ (Ephesians 1:6).

So you claim to be saved for Heaven and yet you aren’t saved from sin? Have you read Matthew 1:21; John 1:29; Romans 6:1-11; Titus 2:11-14; and 1 John 3?

“What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? 2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?” Romans 6:1-2

Keep in mind that those who condemningly ostracize those they say teach “Lordship salvation” are the exact same heretics who peddle Satan’s original life, which in our day is call things like “eternal security” or “once saved always saved.” (Genesis 2:17;3:4)

The message of Jesus and His apostles clearly differs from the modern church message. | Did Jesus and His Apostles Teach Eternal Security?

The apostate modern church refuses to acknowledge that the LORD is “Holy, holy, holy” and that He commands all who will know Him to “Be ye holy; for I am holy” (Isaiah 6:3; Revelation 4:8; 1 Peter 1:15-16). Most modern pastors teach that salvation, once received, is a free pass to live in sin and still be saved into Heaven in the end. The big question is, who will you believe? Will you declare with the apostle Paul, “Let God be true and every man a liar”? Or, will you cling to heresy, tradition, and be irrevocably damned in the end? (Romans 3:4)

Many wish to be bonded to hell, to lies, to falsehood. They cling to their heretical traditions, setting aside the very Word of God to do so (Mark 7:6-9).

“Because ye have said, We have made a covenant with death, and with hell are we at agreement; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, it shall not come unto us: for we have made lies our refuge, and under falsehood have we hid ourselves:” Isaiah 28:15

ANY PERSON WHO BELIEVES THE DEMONIC HERESY OF UN-CONDITIONAL ETERNAL SECURITY, WILL NOT FEAR GOD OR TAKE SIN SERIOUSLY AS GOD WHO IS “HOLY, HOLY, HOLY” DOES (ISAIAH 6:3; REVELATION 4:8).

“There is no fear of God before their eyes.” Romans 3:18

To be turned from “the snares of death” one must fear the LORD.

“The fear of the LORD is a fountain of life, to depart from the snares of death.” Proverbs 14:27

Holiness is essential for eternal glory.

“But as he which hath called you is holy, so be ye holy in all manner of conversation; 16 Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy.” 1 Peter 1:15-16 

OSAS/eternal security is a lie from hell. OSAS was Satan’s first lie and so it’s blasphemy to teach this doctrine of devils and claim it’s part of the Gospel. You are attributing Satan’s lie to the LORD Jesus. Repent now sinner. See Genesis 2:17; 3:4; Romans 11:20-22; 1 Timothy 4:1; Hebrews 3:6, 12-14; 10:26-39; 2 Peter 2:20-21; Jude 4, etc..

The concept of an un-conditional eternal security is not established in Scripture… except for it being Satan’s first teaching, His first lie – the “Ye shall NOT surely die” lie (Genesis 2:17; 3:4).

MESSAGE FROM A LADY WHO HEARD AN “ENDURE TO THE END” VIDEO THE MINISTRY HAS:

“Stay away from these legalists. We are saved by grace, not works. No we are not saved by the law. Jesus came to fulfill the law. He is our only way to heaven, not are good deeds.”

REPLY:

Since when is obeying Jesus, adhering to the whole of what He said, legalism? Regrettably, some just want to use Jesus to get to Heaven, to escape hell, yet want nothing to do with the cross, the crucified life on this earth that Jesus commanded (Luke 9:23-24). These self-serving people believe somehow that THEY can tell Jesus what’s going on, that THEY set the terms of the relationship – instead of humbly, honestly reading His words and adhering to them. Jesus makes it clear that those who are “of God” hear and obey His words (John 8:47; 14:21). They do not make up their own way or follow some “false way” prescribed by the grace perverting wolves the LORD warns us about specifically (Psalms 119:104, 128; Jude 3-4).

“He that is of God heareth God’s words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.” John 8:47 (memory truth)

So was Jesus a legalist?

“Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.” Matthew 7:21

“Preaching the narrow way is not legalism. Correction is not persecution. And warning is not condemnation! Grow up a little bit!” Unknown

To those who refuse to truly repent and lay down their lives in this present world, obedience to Jesus, the One they claim they are saved by, becomes something of legalism. Sad.

“OSAS creates believers who emphasize faith in Jesus while dismissing obedience to His commandments as self righteousness, trying to earn salvation, trusting in your own works etc.” Teddy Caldwell

So if your husband or wife requires something of you, does that make them a legalist? If they require that you be faithful in your marriage, does that make them a works-based legalist? Isn’t fidelity simply a condition of a loving, pure, secure relationship? If so, why do you whine and balk that Jesus would require that you be holy (set apart), deny self, take up the cross daily, abiding, continuing, enduring to the end with Him?

Let’s talk about grace and what it really looks like when someone is possessed by it:

“For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, 12 Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;” Titus 2:11-12

According to Titus 2:11-12, what 5 things do we see in the life of the true born again, saved by grace, abiding, Heaven bound disciple of Jesus? What is divine grace teaching them?

• To deny ungodliness in this present world
• To deny worldly lusts in this present world
• To live soberly in this present world
• To live righteously in this present world
• To live godly in this present world

The saving grace of God in Christ is not a license to live in sin but rather the full provision of God to overcome all sin – through the cross lifestyle (Romans 6:1-16). Divine grace enables the abiding believer to overcome all that displeases the LORD and to be fruitful in ministering His true, saving grace in Christ to others.

Anyone who says that God has saved them for Heaven but not from sin, is completely deceived. | Can a True Believer Overcome All Sin? [podcast] 

Those who are truly saved by grace are fighting the good fight of faith, abiding, remaining in Christ, enduring to the end. They are choosing to love Jesus supremely, not self (Revelation 2:4-5).

WHO we truly love, who is our “first love” is the issue (Revelation 2:4-5). Those who balk at obeying Jesus simply do not love Him. Those who obey Him joyfully prove they truly love Him.

“For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.” 1 John 5:3

If your view of serving God is drudgery, you are deceived and in need of getting into His Word.

Those who espouse the eternal security heresy simply want Jesus to forgive the sins they choose to live in and to guarantee bringing them to Heaven when they die. They don’t love Jesus enough to obey Him, to live the crucified life, and to confess all sin. No, in their corrupted, self-serving mind they vainly imagine they can use Christ to get them to Heaven, to miss hell, while they live to please self instead of the Savior. Total rebels.

“Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.” Matthew 7:21-23

Since when have you seen a married couple who doesn’t have conditions? When’s the last time you heard a couple get married and then say “Well, I’ll do whatever I wish. You don’t tell me what to do or not to do!” ???? In other words, are there no conditions set forth in the marriage vows, in the marriage to keep the integrity of that marriage, such as fidelity and not adultery?

Those who believe they are not accountable to abide in and obey Jesus are spiritual adulterers, just like the five foolish virgins who were engaged to Jesus but were shut out of the eternal bridal chamber for not continuing with Him (Matthew 25:1-13). They got saved yet didn’t remain faithful to their Fiancé (Jesus) and were ousted. | Wisdom for Wise Virgins 

The thought of being accountable to Jesus, to obeying Him, is abhorrant to the un-repentant counterfeit who is living this life to please themself, not Christ.

Jesus says to those who have left their first love, who “art fallen,” that they must “repent” or they will be removed.

“Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast left thy first love. 5 Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent.” Revelation 2:4-5

“But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.” Matthew 24:13

“If a man abide (remain, continue) not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned (hell).” John 15:6

Grace can be fallen from, lost:

“Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; YE ARE FALLEN FROM GRACE.” Galatians 5:4

It’s true that no one can be saved by law keeping. No one here even hinted that anyone can be saved by law (Rom 10:4). Yet Jesus gives conditions for HIS salvation, many of which counterfeits want nothing to do with. Jesus says to His very own that they must endure to the end, they must abide in Him to the end or they will be burned in the fire (Matthew 24:13; John 15:6). All of His apostles taught the same through out the New Testament (Romans 11:20-22; Colossians 1:22-23; Hebrews 3:6, 12-15; 10:26-39; 2 Peter 2:20-21, etc.).

Since when is obeying Jesus law keeping? Since when is obeying Jesus, adhering to the whole of what He said, legalism?

“If ye love me, keep my commandments. … He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.” John 14:15, 21

“Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you.” John 15:14

“God is love” and so if there’s no love in the relationship between you and Him, God isn’t in it! Do we desire and pant for Him? Think about that (1 John 4:8, 16).

Wouldn’t our worship-filled obedience to our Savior be an expression of our love for Him? Yes. The good fruit of obedience saves no one and yet, those truly saved WILL have the fruit of good works.

“He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.” 1 John 2:4

“They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.” Titus 1:16

“For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. 21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.” 2 Peter 2:20-21

Paul reminds us Gentiles believers of how God “cut off” His own people, the Jews, when they rebelled against Him, and that He will also “cut off” any of us who do not continue in His goodness and severity (Romans 11:20-22). Any person who rejects this truth is a grace-perverting, sin-justifying fraud who has made a fake god in their own image due to the refusal to truly repent.

The eternal securist is willingly indoctrinated and intentionally, deceitfully selective in the way he interprets Scripture. Beware.

Read the book of Hebrews.

Will Everyone Jesus has Saved be in Heaven? | Heaven is God’s House: Will YOU be there? 

Support | STORE | Podcasts

Calvinism’s Origins by Ken Rieske | Eternal Security / OSAS DEVILS Slammed! 1 John 2:19 | DOES Mankind Have Free Will? | The Heretical System and Doctrines of Calvinism | UN-Limited Atonement [podcast] | Eternal Security/OSAS Perseverance of the Saints Busted and Exposed | John Wesley on Calvinism, Once Saved Always Saved, and Conditional Security

Grace vs Holiness [podcast]

  “The horrible travesty we have in America today is Christianity without holiness.” A.W. Tozer Grace and holiness come only from God. The LORD is Holy and He extends salvation by grace to repentant, believing sinners at the moment of conversion. Grave vs Holiness: WHY is one of these two so overwhelmingly overemphasized by today’s pastors and self-appointed “grace teachers,” when the other is prioritized by God as is demonstrated by the number of times it appears in Holy Scripture? Which word appears more times in the Bible?: Grace, or Holiness LET’S DO THE MATH: Comparing Grace and Holiness 170 […]

Continuing in Grace and Faith [podcast]

  QUESTION: “When is salvation (saved) ? At the end of life or at the point of belief?” REPLY: Great question: Salvation happens immediately (John 6:47) and yet there is both INITIAL and FINAL salvation – after being saved, one must continue in, “abide in” Christ, to “endure to the end” to be saved into glory (Matthew 10:22; 24:13; Col. 1:22-23; Heb. 3:12-14; 10:26-39, etc.). Christ nor His holy apostles never once taught a “once saved always saved” message which is a heresy that grossly contradicts the faith of the original Gospel. They never once told anyone they were “eternally […]