Is Obeying Jesus Legalism or Lordship Salvation? [podcast]
Easy believism/eternal security is the doctrine of moral cowards who refuse to truly repent, deny self, take up the cross and follow Jesus for real, daily (Luke 9:23-24). This is why they claim that so-called “lordship salvation” is false. These counterfeits love their darkness rather than light and cloak themselves behind these heresies “turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness.” (John 3:19-21; Jude 3-4) They refuse all personal responsibility to truly be accountable to the LORD for every thought, word, deed, and motive.
Obeying God is the command of God and an expression of our love for Him – and not an attempt to get Him to accept us. We are “accepted in the beloved” who is Christ (Ephesians 1:6).
So you claim to be saved for Heaven and yet you aren’t saved from sin? Have you read Matthew 1:21; John 1:29; Romans 6:1-11; Titus 2:11-14; and 1 John 3?
“What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? 2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?” Romans 6:1-2
Keep in mind that those who condemningly ostracize those they say teach “Lordship salvation” are the exact same heretics who peddle Satan’s original life, which in our day is call things like “eternal security” or “once saved always saved.” (Genesis 2:17;3:4)
The message of Jesus and His apostles clearly differs from the modern church message. | Did Jesus and His Apostles Teach Eternal Security?
The apostate modern church refuses to acknowledge that the LORD is “Holy, holy, holy” and that He commands all who will know Him to “Be ye holy; for I am holy” (Isaiah 6:3; Revelation 4:8; 1 Peter 1:15-16). Most modern pastors teach that salvation, once received, is a free pass to live in sin and still be saved into Heaven in the end. The big question is, who will you believe? Will you declare with the apostle Paul, “Let God be true and every man a liar”? Or, will you cling to heresy, tradition, and be irrevocably damned in the end? (Romans 3:4)
Many wish to be bonded to hell, to lies, to falsehood. They cling to their heretical traditions, setting aside the very Word of God to do so (Mark 7:6-9).
“Because ye have said, We have made a covenant with death, and with hell are we at agreement; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, it shall not come unto us: for we have made lies our refuge, and under falsehood have we hid ourselves:” Isaiah 28:15
ANY PERSON WHO BELIEVES THE DEMONIC HERESY OF UN-CONDITIONAL ETERNAL SECURITY, WILL NOT FEAR GOD OR TAKE SIN SERIOUSLY AS GOD WHO IS “HOLY, HOLY, HOLY” DOES (ISAIAH 6:3; REVELATION 4:8).
“There is no fear of God before their eyes.” Romans 3:18
To be turned from “the snares of death” one must fear the LORD.
“The fear of the LORD is a fountain of life, to depart from the snares of death.” Proverbs 14:27
Holiness is essential for eternal glory.
“But as he which hath called you is holy, so be ye holy in all manner of conversation; 16 Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy.” 1 Peter 1:15-16
OSAS/eternal security is a lie from hell. OSAS was Satan’s first lie and so it’s blasphemy to teach this doctrine of devils and claim it’s part of the Gospel. You are attributing Satan’s lie to the LORD Jesus. Repent now sinner. See Genesis 2:17; 3:4; Romans 11:20-22; 1 Timothy 4:1; Hebrews 3:6, 12-14; 10:26-39; 2 Peter 2:20-21; Jude 4, etc..
The concept of an un-conditional eternal security is not established in Scripture… except for it being Satan’s first teaching, His first lie – the “Ye shall NOT surely die” lie (Genesis 2:17; 3:4).
MESSAGE FROM A LADY WHO HEARD AN “ENDURE TO THE END” VIDEO THE MINISTRY HAS:
“Stay away from these legalists. We are saved by grace, not works. No we are not saved by the law. Jesus came to fulfill the law. He is our only way to heaven, not are good deeds.”
REPLY:
Since when is obeying Jesus, adhering to the whole of what He said, legalism? Regrettably, some just want to use Jesus to get to Heaven, to escape hell, yet want nothing to do with the cross, the crucified life on this earth that Jesus commanded (Luke 9:23-24). These self-serving people believe somehow that THEY can tell Jesus what’s going on, that THEY set the terms of the relationship – instead of humbly, honestly reading His words and adhering to them. Jesus makes it clear that those who are “of God” hear and obey His words (John 8:47; 14:21). They do not make up their own way or follow some “false way” prescribed by the grace perverting wolves the LORD warns us about specifically (Psalms 119:104, 128; Jude 3-4).
“He that is of God heareth God’s words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.” John 8:47 (memory truth)
So was Jesus a legalist?
“Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.” Matthew 7:21
“Preaching the narrow way is not legalism. Correction is not persecution. And warning is not condemnation! Grow up a little bit!” Unknown
To those who refuse to truly repent and lay down their lives in this present world, obedience to Jesus, the One they claim they are saved by, becomes something of legalism. Sad.
“OSAS creates believers who emphasize faith in Jesus while dismissing obedience to His commandments as self righteousness, trying to earn salvation, trusting in your own works etc.” Teddy Caldwell
So if your husband or wife requires something of you, does that make them a legalist? If they require that you be faithful in your marriage, does that make them a works-based legalist? Isn’t fidelity simply a condition of a loving, pure, secure relationship? If so, why do you whine and balk that Jesus would require that you be holy (set apart), deny self, take up the cross daily, abiding, continuing, enduring to the end with Him?
Let’s talk about grace and what it really looks like when someone is possessed by it:
“For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, 12 Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;” Titus 2:11-12
According to Titus 2:11-12, what 5 things do we see in the life of the true born again, saved by grace, abiding, Heaven bound disciple of Jesus? What is divine grace teaching them?
- To deny ungodliness in this present world
- To deny worldly lusts in this present world
- To live soberly in this present world
- To live righteously in this present world
- To live godly in this present world
The saving grace of God in Christ is not a license to live in sin but rather the full provision of God to overcome all sin – through the cross lifestyle (Romans 6:1-16). Divine grace enables the abiding believer to overcome all that displeases the LORD and to be fruitful in ministering His true, saving grace in Christ to others.
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Those who are truly saved by grace are fighting the good fight of faith, abiding, remaining in Christ, enduring to the end. They are choosing to love Jesus supremely, not self (Revelation 2:4-5).
WHO we truly love, who is our “first love” is the issue (Revelation 2:4-5). Those who balk at obeying Jesus simply do not love Him. Those who obey Him joyfully prove they truly love Him.
“For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.” 1 John 5:3
If your view of serving God is drudgery, you are deceived and in need of getting into His Word.
Those who espouse the eternal security heresy simply want Jesus to forgive the sins they choose to live in and to guarantee bringing them to Heaven when they die. They don’t love Jesus enough to obey Him, to live the crucified life, and to confess all sin. No, in their corrupted, self-serving mind they vainly imagine they can use Christ to get them to Heaven, to miss hell, while they live to please self instead of the Savior. Total rebels.
“Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.” Matthew 7:21-23
Since when have you seen a married couple who doesn’t have conditions? When’s the last time you heard a couple get married and then say “Well, I’ll do whatever I wish. You don’t tell me what to do or not to do!” ???? In other words, are there no conditions set forth in the marriage vows, in the marriage to keep the integrity of that marriage, such as fidelity and not adultery?
Those who believe they are not accountable to abide in and obey Jesus are spiritual adulterers, just like the five foolish virgins who were engaged to Jesus but were shut out of the eternal bridal chamber for not continuing with Him (Matthew 25:1-13). They got saved yet didn’t remain faithful to their Fiancé (Jesus) and were ousted. | Wisdom for Wise Virgins
The thought of being accountable to Jesus, to obeying Him, is abhorrant to the un-repentant counterfeit who is living this life to please themself, not Christ.
Jesus says to those who have left their first love, who “art fallen,” that they must “repent” or they will be removed.
“Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast left thy first love. 5 Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent.” Revelation 2:4-5
“But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.” Matthew 24:13
“If a man abide (remain, continue) not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned (hell).” John 15:6
Grace can be fallen from, lost:
“Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; YE ARE FALLEN FROM GRACE.” Galatians 5:4
It’s true that no one can be saved by law keeping. No one here even hinted that anyone can be saved by law (Rom 10:4). Yet Jesus gives conditions for HIS salvation, many of which counterfeits want nothing to do with. Jesus says to His very own that they must endure to the end, they must abide in Him to the end or they will be burned in the fire (Matthew 24:13; John 15:6). All of His apostles taught the same through out the New Testament (Romans 11:20-22; Colossians 1:22-23; Hebrews 3:6, 12-15; 10:26-39; 2 Peter 2:20-21, etc.).
Since when is obeying Jesus law keeping? Since when is obeying Jesus, adhering to the whole of what He said, legalism?
“If ye love me, keep my commandments. … He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.” John 14:15, 21
“Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you.” John 15:14
“God is love” and so if there’s no love in the relationship between you and Him, God isn’t in it! Do we desire and pant for Him? Think about that (1 John 4:8, 16).
Wouldn’t our worship-filled obedience to our Savior be an expression of our love for Him? Yes. The good fruit of obedience saves no one and yet, those truly saved WILL have the fruit of good works.
“He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.” 1 John 2:4
“They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.” Titus 1:16
“For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. 21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.” 2 Peter 2:20-21
Paul reminds us Gentiles believers of how God “cut off” His own people, the Jews, when they rebelled against Him, and that He will also “cut off” any of us who do not continue in His goodness and severity (Romans 11:20-22). Any person who rejects this truth is a grace-perverting, sin-justifying fraud who has made a fake god in their own image due to the refusal to truly repent.
The eternal securist is willingly indoctrinated and intentionally, deceitfully selective in the way he interprets Scripture. Beware.
Read the book of Hebrews.
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“The Unalterable Basis of an Open Heaven is a Grave” [podcast]
Concerning the raising up process of the Gospel of God, T. Austin-Sparks wrote:
“The unalterable basis of an open heaven is a grave, and a crisis at which you come to an end of your own self-life. It is the crisis of real experiential identification with Christ in His death.”
Though we entered into His death upon initial salvation, accepting and experiencing that death is still a daily choice, an individual decision to be made on an ongoing basis. One’s choice to continue to persevere, following Christ as He clearly prescribed, will determine his eternal destination (Luke 9:62; 19:13; 21:19; Romans 6:16; Galatians 6:7-9).
The insidious circumventing of the cross can come in many clandestine ways that are masked with pious outer garb. Today, while refusing to utter the full counsel of the One they claim tobe representing, smiling and charismatic men stand in sheep’s clothing, promising heavenly life to those who live in sin. They only prosper due to the volitional biblical illiteracy of the masses. Ignorance of the truth is a choice with eternal consequences (Hosea 4:6; Matthew 22:29; 2 Thessalonians 2:10-12).
“Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit. 25 He that loveth his life shall lose it; and he that hateth his life in this world shall keep it unto life eternal.” John 12:24-25
Of seeds, one source notes:
“Seeds do not technically ‘die’ when planted; rather, they germinate, transforming from a dormant state into an active, growing plant. While the outer shell breaks and the original form changes, the embryo inside remains alive.”
Just as nothing in hell could have held Jesus in that grave, NOTHING in hell can hold down the crucified saint! The divinely volcanic resurrection life of Christ bursting forth in the life of the crucified consenting disciple will be utterly unstoppable!
“But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken (make alive, raise up) your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.” Romans 8:11
The true disciple is always “delivered unto death for Jesus’ sake” (2 Corinthians 4:11). He has “crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts” (Galatians 5:24). He is daily putting to death “the deeds of the body” and being “raised up” by the power of the same Holy Spirit “that raised up Christ from the dead” (Romans 8:11, 13). He rejoices in “Christ Jesus” and has “no confidence in the flesh” (Philippians 3:3).
“I die daily” (1 Corinthians 15:31)
“Always bearing about in the body the dying of the Lord Jesus, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our body. For we which live are always delivered unto death for Jesus’ sake … that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our mortal flesh. So then death worketh in us, but life in you” 1 Corinthians 15:31; 2 Corinthians 4:10-12.
The disciple who is dead and buried with Christ is “dead to sin” (Romans 6:2). There are tell-tale symptoms in one whose self life has not been terminated, put to death. When we justify the sinful things we do, and call those who point them out “legalistic,” it is symptomatic of a life that is not crucified with Christ. The Bible says, “Lie not against the truth” (James. 3:14). If we argue against the truth when we are shown it, we are manifesting rebellion. The “corn of wheat” must be planted and remain planted in order to bud and bring forth new life. The one whose life is laid down does not make excuses when he realizes that he harbors sin. No, instead he rejoices to be yet more sanctified and dwelling in the place of blessing and holiness with the One He delights to please and serve.
Prayer: LORD Jesus, I am crucified with You. I am dead and my life is hidden with Christ in God. Here and now I lay my life in Your holy hands, this moment. Please use me now and here forward in the Father’s business of the Great Commission as we eagerly look for Your soon return. I love You LORD Jesus. In Jesus’ name. Amen.
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Faith with Humility: When Love Replaces Judgment [podcast]
“For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love.” Galatians 5:6
Recently I ran across a sobering title for a video by a pastor. It read:
“They have the gospel backwards: Why are Christians so mean?”
Have you memorized Matthew 5:44 in the King James Bible?
“But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;” Matthew 5:44
“Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.” Romans 13:10
“For he shall have judgment without mercy, that hath shewed no mercy; and mercy rejoiceth against judgment.” James 2:13
“And above all these things put on charity, which is the bond of perfectness.” Colossians 3:14
“Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal. 2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing. 3 And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing.
4 Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up, 5 doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil; 6 rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth; 7 beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.
8 Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.” 1 Corinthians 13:1-8
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How to Give Alms, Pray, Forgive Others, Fast, and Lay Up Treasure in Heaven [podcast]
Breakdown of Jesus’ Teaching in Matthew 6
- How to Give Alms.
- How to Pray.
- The Essential of Forgiving Others.
- How to Fast and How Not to Fast.
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Matthew 6
Giving to the Needy
“1 Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them: otherwise ye have no reward of your Father which is in heaven.
2 Therefore when thou doest thine alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
3 But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth:
4 That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret himself shall reward thee openly.”
The Disciple’s Prayer
“5 And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.
7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.
8 Be not ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, before ye ask him.
9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.
10 Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.
11 Give us this day our daily bread.
12 And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.
13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.
14 For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you:
15 But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.”
Fasting
“16 Moreover when ye fast, be not, as the hypocrites, of a sad countenance: for they disfigure their faces, that they may appear unto men to fast. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
17 But thou, when thou fastest, anoint thine head, and wash thy face;
18 That thou appear not unto men to fast, but unto thy Father which is in secret: and thy Father, which seeth in secret, shall reward thee openly.”
Lay Up Treasures in Heaven
“19 Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal:
20 But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal:
21 For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.
22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.
23 But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!
24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.”
Fear Not
“25 Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on. Is not the life more than meat, and the body than raiment?
26 Behold the fowls of the air: for they sow not, neither do they reap, nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feedeth them. Are ye not much better than they?
27 Which of you by taking thought can add one cubit unto his stature?
28 And why take ye thought for raiment? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin:
29 And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these.
30 Wherefore, if God so clothe the grass of the field, which to day is, and to morrow is cast into the oven, shall he not much more clothe you, O ye of little faith?
31 Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall we drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed?
32 (For after all these things do the Gentiles seek:) for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things.
33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.
34 Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.”
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