Does Going to a “Church” Building on Sunday Mornings Constitute True “Fellowship”?
“Man, are we the only ones that understand this. I’ve experienced the condemnation from other believers because I don’t go to church. I’ve literally tried, but I’m afraid it’s just that bad. The condition of the Church is that far gone. I know not all churches are like this. There are some good ones but I don’t live around any of them.” Jeff Thomas
“Ye are God’s building.” 1 Corinthians 3:9
WE are the church, the called out ones, is a better way of putting it. The “house” of the LORD has a much larger meaning than a designed “church” building, so called, usually run by wolves. The “house of the LORD” can refer to the presence of the LORD, not a physical meeting place.
“One thing have I desired of the LORD, that will I seek after; that I may dwell in the house of the LORD all the days of my life, to behold the beauty of the LORD, and to enquire in his temple.” Psalms 27:4
In Psalm 27, there is no mention of other people or a certain dwelling place other than it’s the LORD David sought.
Seems like from the next verse that in the whole of God’s creation, He can and should be worshipped:
“God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands;” Acts 17:24
“What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? 20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God’s.” 1 Corinthians 6:19-20
JUST WHAT FRUIT HAS SUNDAY MORNING CHURCH ATTENDANCE PRODUCED OTHER THAN COUNTERFEITS?
- Where’s the evangelism? (Mark 16:15)
- Where’s the daily teaching and fellowshipping in the Word? (Matthew 28:18-20)
- Where’s the crucified saints? (Luke 9:23-24)
- Where’s those diligently preparing to meet the LORD? (Revelation 19:7-10)
The proof is in the fruit. WHAT has the modern “church” so called produced other than a generation of self-serving counterfeits, just as the Holy Ghost foretold in 2 Timothy 3:1-7. One born again saint put it this way:
“Refusing to sit under the false gospel, false doctrines, false teachers and wolves; is not forsaking the assembly.”
If the modern church is of God, is fulfilling God’s will, why is the fruit rotten?
- Where is the message, the word, the divine command to “repent” ever heard in the modern church? Nearly never, right? Yet it is the first word, divine command of the original Gospel first preached by John the baptist, then Jesus, then the apostles (Matthew 3:2; 4:17; Luke 13:3; Acts 2:38; 3:19; 20:21, etc.).
- Where is the message of the cross, the crucified life preached by Jesus and His holy apostles? (Luke 9:23-24; 2 Corinthians 1:9; 4:10-12; Romans 6; Galatians 2:20; 5:24; 6:14, etc.).
- Where is the evangelism? (Mark 16:15; Book of Acts, etc.)
Evidence you’ve been indoctrinated into churchianity instead of Christianity:
- If you raise your hands in “church” but not at home
- If you behave one way at church and another way at home
- If you read the Bible in church and don’t devour it at home, on a daily basis
- If you pray in church and don’t live a life of prayer daily
The most authentic, fruitful cross-bearing disciples of Jesus I know, do not attend a “church” on Sunday mornings. No, they obey Jesus by follow Him “daily.” – “And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross DAILY, and follow me. 24 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: but whosoever will lose his life for my sake, the same shall save it” (Luke 9:23-24).
Show me a Sunday morning “church” where the cross, the crucified life Jesus mandated is being taught all the time? No such thing. Case closed. False gospel. False “bibles.” False prophets.
Just because most pastors are false, in no way negates God’s mandate for each of His saints to fellowship daily with other believers (Acts 2:42-47; 5:42; Colossians 3:16; Hebrews 3:13; 10:25, etc.)!
Jon Crane writes:
“The church is also Acts 2:42-47. Where is the daily fellowship in these modern ‘church’ buildings? Where is the selling of their possessions (leadership and laity) and parting them to all men, as every man had need? Should not everything pertaining to the New Testament church be proclaimed?
Going once a week to a 501c3 state ‘church‘ to fund bigger buildings, bigger houses, luxury cars, private jets seems a bit Pharasaical.
Would I love to fellowship with true believers? Absolutely, and I do daily through social media and with a few in person. But, I will not be caught bidding godspeed to the mostly apostate church in America. 2 John 11
First repentance in the church (leadership), then perhaps God will restore the candlestick. Too many obeyed man rather than God in closing their doors, shaming Christ for fear of a virus, and showing the whole world what little faith they had and who really owned them! – the state! What Hypocrisy!
It is no wonder many did not return. Why would they seek any more help from such a place that had no real faith and obedience to man, not God who commanded His people to never cease fellowshipping!?”
Many who leave the organized apostate “church” do so, not because they are abandoning the faith but rather because they want to preserve their faith. We were told that in this last hour “evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse” and that “MANY false prophets shall arise and shall deceive MANY” (2 Timothy 3:13; Matthew 24:11). So this truth of the remnant departing from the false prophets and false gospel and the “accursed” peddlers of it, should be no surprise.
“I have witnessed this apostay in the local church for over 30 years.” Thomas Cochran
Is it a sin to go to a place of fellowship on Sundays? No. Yet such is not an essential to salvation and to make it such is to err, is to miss the point of Scripture, is to overemphasize something the LORD never emphasized. True fellowship among the brethren is what matters, not the place or physical building. Jesus preached to the 5,000 men, right? WHERE? In the desert (John 6).
It’s the wolves of the modern church who indoctrinate people to believe that THEIR little mortgaged “church building” is the divinely designated “holy” place to be on Sunday mornings. Nonsense. Sounds pretty Catholic actually.
WHERE you fellowship or WHEN you fellowship is not an essential. The biblical nature and quality of the fellowship is what matters to God. No where does the Bible dictate that true fellowship MUST take place in a certain designated official “church” building. Fellowship is what is emphasized and not the day or location. Isn’t that what Jesus made clear when speaking to the woman at the well in John 4 when the woman sought to make worship about a geographical location? Yes.
“Our fathers worshipped in this mountain; and ye say, that in Jerusalem is the place where men ought to worship. 21 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father. 22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews. 23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. 24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.” John 4:20-24
There is no stated necessity in the Scriptures to be at a certain church building on sunday mornings. Nowhere. Actually it’s the wolves who misuse Hebrews 10:25 for their own self-serving agenda while they refuse to truly teach the WORD and watch for the souls of the saints (Hebrews 13:7, 17). Therefore they do not qualify to be submitted to.
Does the Word Instruct Christ’s Disciples to Assemble? Yes.
“Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.” Hebrews 10:25
The earliest followers of Jesus didn’t wait till Sunday morning. That’s lame, right? Selah. No, they couldn’t get enough of Christ and so they gathered “daily” in the temple (Jewish and yet they were run out before long) and “house to house” (Acts 2:42-47; 5:42).
The “house” of God is the people of God, not a physical building or gathering at a certain time in a certain building.
To further develop this point, let us ask whether or not a penny was ever collected to build an official “church” building. The answer is No.
Good day saints. The Word never instructs God’s people to go to church but rather to assemble, to serve the LORD daily and to fellowship daily according to the simple biblical model, right (Hebrews 10:25)? I don’t think we could find 5 church goers who could give the Bible definition of true fellowship.
Personally, upon beginning to uncover these truths, I ceased telling anyone to go find a church, or to go to church…. and that’s due to the “MANY false prophets” we were often warned about, and most of what there is “manning” the pulpits of America’s apostate “churches,” which are more like entertainment centers, circuses with clowns conducting their so-called “services” (Matthew 24:11; 2 Timothy 3:13; 4:2-4). Of course there are still a very few who are in the truth – and use the real Bible, the King James Bible, etc. Very few. New “bibles” are all fake and the presence of such spells, equals apostasy (Revelation 22:18-19). The remnant are learning to feed themselves and those around them, worship God daily, equip the flock, and communicate the Word (Colossians 3:16). They don’t need a designated building to attend and put on a religious act. Sorry but that’s usually what it turns into. Sound like what Jesus told the false religionists of His day? Monkey see. Monkey do.
“Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.” Matthew 23:15
The authentic remnant elect of Christ do not patronize false leaders. Refusing to sit under, condone, bid Godspeed to the false gospel, false doctrines, false teachers and wolves of the modern church … is not forsaking the assembly! Instead, it’s obedience to God who mandates that we “mark them” and “earnestly contend for the faith” against them, and warns us that anyone who bids Godspeed to them will be punished with them (Romans 16:17-18; Jude 3; 2 John 2:10-11).
“But exhort one another DAILY (not weekly), while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin.” Hebrews 3:13
True elders, pastors, etc., do NOT need a certain official so-called “church” building to conduct themselves as overseers. When Peter speaks of and to overseers in 1 Peter 5:1-6, there is no mention of a designated church building. That’s because it’s all about THE CHURCH, that is, the PEOPLE of God and not meeting weekly in a certain building.
“For we are labourers together with God: ye are God’s husbandry, ye are God’s building… 16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? 17 If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.” 1 Corinthians 3:9, 16-17
PRAYER: Father, in the name of Jesus, please teach us Your way – Your Word. Establish us in You, rooted and grounded in Christ. Bless us to discern between truth and half-truth lies. Wash me clean from all my sin – at the forefront of which is pride, selfishness, self-idolatry, rebellion, and lawlessness. I love You LORD Jesus. Please have Your way in me. In Jesus’ name. Amen.
DOES the Bible tell us to “Go make disciples” OR to “Teach others God’s Word”? Interesting. Does the Bible Ever Say “Go Make Disciples”?
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Eternal Security Death Nails [podcast]

SATAN’S FIRST AND BIGGEST SCAM – BUT IT ONLY WORKS ON THOSE WHO CHOOSE TO LOVE THEIR DARKNESS AND SIN MORE THAN THEY LOVE JESUS! Get to know Genesis 2:17 and 3:4.
Here’s the eternal security / OSAS category on the ministry site….. have fun!
QUESTION RECEIVED:
“I don’t believe in osas but one of my context scriptures was John 6:37 I read it in context and looked it up in Strong’s can you please help me?”
REPLY:
Firstly, we must look at the what the whole of Scripture reveals on this matter and know that “God is not the author of confusion.” (1 Corinthians 14:33)
“All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.” John 6:37
This is simply saying that Jesus will receive anyone who come to Him, which speaks of initial salvation. Yet Jesus says to His own that they must “endure to the end” to be saved into eternal glory – final salvation (Matthew 10:22; 24:13, etc.). The fact that Jesus receives all who come to Him in repentance and faith for initial salvation, in no way means He will keep them if they don’t “abide” in Him according to His own terms of agreement (John 15:1-6). In fact, Jesus says that those who come to Him and then don’t remain in Him, “abide” – continue – with Him, will be cast into the fires of hell (John 15:6).
Notice later in this very chapter, John 6, we read the following:
“From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him.” John 6:66
God never forces any person to come to Him nor to remain (abide) in Him. Free will is the gift of God (Deuteronomy 30:19; Joshua 24:15).
Jesus will not cast out anyone He brings into His kingdom and yet they can leave, they are always free to leave, because He gives them free will….just as did the prodigal son who left his father’s house. We choose to leave Him by not adhering to His just and stated conditions. Jesus says that there will be some who believe and are saved only later to “fall away.” (Luke 8:12-13)
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“Eternal security is one thing he gets right….Plenty of scripture to back it up.”
REPLY:
The term “back it up” that you use makes it all too clear that you are looking for a reason to believe this sin-justifying lie because you love your darkness rather than light, refuse to truly repent, lay down your life in this world, deny self daily, take up the cross, live a crucified life, and follow Jesus for real (Luke 9:23-24).
You are deceived and guilty of bearing false witness against the LORD. Does the conversation between God and Adam and Eve and then Satan’s conversation with Eve back it up? No. It identifies OSAS as the first lie of satan that led to the fall of mankind. It’s irrefutable. Gen 2:17; 3:4
“For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. 21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.” 2 Peter 2:20-21
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“The Trial of Your Faith” has a Divine Eternal Purpose [podcast]

“Confirming the souls of the disciples, and exhorting them to continue in the faith, and that we must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of God.” Acts 14:22
“It is through much trial and tribulations that we are made pure, holy, and clean in His sight by the working of his Spirit in our hearts to conform us to Christ Image.” Jon Crane
The trials God allows into our lives, purify – but only as we praise, worship, thank, and obey Him through those seasons of tribulations.
“That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ: 8 Whom having not seen, ye love; in whom, though now ye see him not, yet believing, ye rejoice with joy unspeakable and full of glory: 9 Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls.” 1 Peter 1:7-9
God is Purifying His Kingdom Saints
“Behold, I have refined thee, but not with silver; I have chosen thee in the furnace of affliction.” Isaiah 48:10
“Gold tried in the fire” refers to a spiritual metaphor, primarily from the Bible, that describes how difficult trials and hardships purify and strengthen one’s faith, revealing and removing hidden impurities like bitterness or pride, similar to how fire removes impurities from gold to make it purer and more valuable. It encourages believers to view challenges as opportunities for spiritual growth, resulting in a more genuine, tested, and valuable faith.”
“I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see. 19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.” Revelation 3:18-19
“Purify the sons” – Christ’s kingdom disciples
“And he shall sit as a refiner and purifier of silver: and he shall purify the sons of Levi, and purge them as gold and silver, that they may offer unto the LORD an offering in righteousness.” Malachi 3:3
We should not be surprised by the trials and sufferings of all true disciple of Jesus.
“But he knoweth the way that I take: when he hath tried me, I shall come forth as gold. 11 My foot hath held his steps, his way have I kept, and not declined. 12 Neither have I gone back from the commandment of his lips; I have esteemed the words of his mouth more than my necessary food.” Job 23:10-12
“the fiery trial which is to try you”
“Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened unto you: 13 But rejoice, inasmuch as ye are partakers of Christ’s sufferings; that, when his glory shall be revealed, ye may be glad also with exceeding joy. 14 If ye be reproached for the name of Christ, happy are ye; for the spirit of glory and of God resteth upon you: on their part he is evil spoken of, but on your part he is glorified.” 1 Peter 4:12-14
As we abide in Christ, bearing fruit, He will continue to purge us so that we bring forth even more fruit.
“Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit.” John 15:2
In the fiery trials, Job declared:
“Though he slay me, yet will I trust in him: but I will maintain mine own ways before him.” Job 13:15
Being purified, remaining true to God no matter what adversity he face guaranteed that Job would see God…
“For I know that my redeemer liveth, and that he shall stand at the latter day upon the earth:” Job 19:25
Only “the pure in heart” are going to see, to be with God in eternity.
“Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God.” Matthew 5:8
“This verse is not for the hypocrites. Who play being a Christian on Sunday mornings. This is for the honest remnant who sit at His feet and pour out their hearts. As David did in Psalm 51. Asking God to create in them a clean heart! The ones Jesus is coming back for without any spot of sin. Let us draw near to God having our hearts and conscience washed with the pure water!” Karen Cochran
“Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried” Daniel 12:10
“And such as do wickedly against the covenant shall he corrupt by flatteries: but the people that do know their God shall be strong, and do exploits. 33 And they that understand among the people shall instruct many: yet they shall fall by the sword, and by flame, by captivity, and by spoil, many days. 34 Now when they shall fall, they shall be holpen with a little help: but many shall cleave to them with flatteries. 35 And some of them of understanding shall fall, to try them, and to purge, and to make them white, even to the time of the end: because it is yet for a time appointed.” Daniel 11:32-35
“Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.” Daniel 12:10
The trial of our faith is for the salvation of our eternal souls. Let me explain: No, we are not earning our own salvation and yet the LORD is working in our lives to purify us to be presented to Him as His bride.
The people, the church Jesus is returning for:
“… Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it; 26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word, 27 That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.” Ephesians 5:25-27
The trial of our faith is for the salvation of our eternal souls. No, we are not earning them and yet the LORD is working in our lives to purify them to be presented to Him as His bride.
“And some of them of understanding shall fall, to try them, and to purge, and to make them white, even to the time of the end: because it is yet for a time appointed.” Daniel 11:35
They “shall fall” and God is going “to try them, and to purge, and to make them white.”
Of this verse, one source notes the following:
“The verse begins by stating that “some of them of understanding shall fall.” This is a reference to the wise and learned individuals in Israel who will suffer and be persecuted. This suffering is meant to “try them, and to purge, and to make them white.” The use of the word “try” suggests that the suffering is a test, a way to prove the true character and faith of the people. The word “purge” has connotations of purification, removing impurities or unwanted elements. This suffering is a means of refining the people, making them stronger and more steadfast in their faith. The phrase “to make them white” suggests that through this process of suffering and purification, the people will be made pure, clean, and righteous in the eyes of God.”
HOW do we know, how can we discern who Christ’s true remnant, His bride is?
“Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready. 8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints. 9 And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God.” Revelation 19:7-9
We know the true bride by their adherence to Christ. They are about the “Father’s business” as they are accomplishing the Great Commission Jesus gave His people:
“And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.” Revelation 22:17
YOUR PRAYER: Dear LORD I know You are going to chasten, try, scourge, and purge my life in order to purify it for Your acceptance and glory as I know You are Holy, holy, holy. Please multiply Your enabling, heart softening grace to this life You gave Father. Bless me to endure hardness as a good soldier of Jesus Christ. Your grace is sufficient for You to be glorified in this life no matter what. I love You LORD and am living to see You soon, for Your soon return. In Jesus’ name.
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