Catholic Communion is Not Biblical

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Dispelling Roman Catholic lies is important since they have polluted the world with their blasphemous heresies.

Catholics are blinded under the blanket of blasphemy known as the roman catholic cult. Little do catholics realize that Jesus Christ is the victim of every mass – supposedly re-sacrificed, as if His one time perfect sacrifice on the cross 2,000 years ago was not enough! Catholics are given a “host” in the form of a round wheat wafer. The Latin word for host is hostia and means victim. Make no mistake: This is a blatant attack on Jesus Christ by Satan himself. The Bible tells us that Jesus “died unto sin once.” (Romans 6:10) His sacrifice was perfect and happened on the day He offered His sinless body and blood on the altar of the cross to pay for the sins of the whole world. “It is finished” means “paid in full.” That’s what Jesus cried on that cross before the Son of God gave up the ghost (John 19:30).

“by his own blood he entered in ONCE into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.” Hebrews 9:12

“but now ONCE in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.” Hebrews 9:26

“So Christ was ONCE offered to bear the sins of many.” Hebrews 9:28

“For Christ also hath ONCE suffered for sins…” 1 Peter 3:18

NO such thing as a catholic who is a born again Christian! STOP the excuses and lead them to Jesus! You are in darkness! 1 Corinthians 10:21

How Does the Catholic Church View Communion?

A Catholic heathen wrote this:

“THE HOST [Eucharist cracker/wafer] IS NOT AN IMAGE OF GOD, BUT GOD HIMSELF!!!!!!!!”

Pope John Paul II (a.k.a. Karol Joseph Wojtyla–his real name) said about the Eucharist in his 1980 Encyclical Letter on the Mystery and Worship of the Eucharist — “Adoration of Christ in this Sacrament of love must also find expression in various forms of Eucharistic devotion: personal prayer before the Blessed Sacrament [the Eucharist], hours of adoration, periods of exposition – short, prolonged and annual (Forty Hours) – Eucharistic benediction, Eucharistic processions, Eucharistic Congresses.”

The mass is the center of Catholicism and the Eucharist (that little round wafer above) is the center of the mass.

“…[E]ucharistic worship is the center and goal of all sacramental life.” –Karol Wojtyla, aka pope John Paul II

Communion was never meant to become a cold, dead ritual like the Roman cult has made it.

Communion is for the “remembrance” of Christ’s redemptive death on the cross and not the reality of supposedly eating the very flesh and drinking the literal blood of Jesus in the elements. The catholic church calls this “transubstantiation” which is a lie. The roman cult teaches that as one of their unsaved priests waves his sinful hand over the elements (bread and grape juice) that those elements literally become the actual flesh and blood of Jesus Christ-literally. It’s a good thing to challenge them to produce DNA evidence of such. Lie debunked. Case closed.

In instituting communion, Jesus instructed us to “do this in REMEMBRANCE of me” not in the reality of me (Luke 22:19) ….., believing that Christ’s ACTUAL blood and body is what you are drinking and eating is an ancient pagan practice. John 6 is not even speaking about communion. It’s an illustration of who He is… He is the bread of life and He’s also “the door” but that doesn’t mean the Son of God is a piece of wood because He said “I am the door” (John 10). Should we now eat wood to eat “Jesus”? Then Jesus said He’s “the vine” but does that mean Jesus is a literal stalk with leaves? (John 15) When we look at the whole of Scripture, we see that Jesus is speaking figuratively, not literally as He did in many other places, two of which were just listed (Door, Vine). He does this to teach us by illustration who He is. In John 6 when Jesus says He is “the bread,” Christ was speaking of partaking with Him, not trying to eat Him physically, literally. Ask yourself; Did Jesus stand there that day handing out parts of His physical body? Of course not. If not, then why would He today want us think we are eating Him or fellowshipping with Him by chewing Him when we eat bread to commemorate His death for us?

In that very passage and context (John 6), Jesus says “He that believeth (not eats) hath everlasting life.” (John 6:47) Then He tells us “It is the spirit that quickeneth (makes alive); the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.” (John 6:63)

We receive Jesus by faith and walk with Him by faith and not by thinking we are literally eating Him. Isn’t that cannibalism?

TRANSUBSTANTIATION – TRUE OR FALSE? If God does a miracle, it doesn’t have to be propped up or lied about – it can stand on its own merit and be substantiated by science. In 1,700 years, the catholic church has never validated it claims that the wheat actually becomes the literal body of Jesus nor has it ever proved by DNA testing that the grape juice actually becomes the blood of Jesus. If as they teach in their doctrine of transubstantiation, that the wheat becomes the literal body of Jesus and the juice becomes the literal blood of Jesus, then it should be tested to see if it’s literally true, or a hoax/lie. What have they to hide by the results of DNA testing? – Their whole religion is what they have to lose because it stands or falls on this ancient babylonian doctrine.

Question: While tasting that wheat, does it taste like juice or does it taste like blood?

Question: When tasting that wheat wafer, does it taste like wheat or does it taste like human flesh?

Biblical communion is symbolic not substantive as the catholic false teaching of transubstantiation claims.

No true Christian believes that Jesus Christ, the eternal God, is turned into a piece of wheat by a robe-wearing priest from a religion God never sanctioned.

The roman catholic religion and its doctrines utterly deny the total sufficiency of Christ and His COMPLETED, perfect work on the cross. They teach that you have to keep physically eating Jesus. SMH

Jesus Christ said, “do this in REMEMBRANCE of me!”…..Remembrance is different from actual transformation!

Biblical communion is a memorial of the sacrificial love of Jesus for us displayed in his crucifixion, not the worship of a piece of mere wheat, deceitfully pretending to cannibalistically eat the actual, literal body of Jesus, something He never told us to do.

Salvation is through Christ, the divine Person – the crucified, risen LORD and Savior – and not the catholic “jesus” which is a piece of wheat that supposedly literally becomes God as the unsaved catholic sinner priest waves his sinful hand over it.

FAITH IS ONLY AS VALID AS THE ONE IT IS PLACED IN – IS YOUR FAITH IN THE HISTORIC CHRIST OF HOLY SCRIPTURE OR A WHEAT “JESUS”? ACCORDING TO HOLY SCRIPTURE, WE ARE NOT TO RECEIVE CHRIST IN WHEAT FORM, BUT RATHER BY FAITH IN THE HEART – FOR HIS “FINISHED” (PERFECTLY COMPLETED) WORK (John 19:30).

Confessing your sin to a mere man, a sinner in a costume, remits no sin. You must repent before a holy God and believe on the LORD Jesus Christ to be saved, forgiven (Acts 20:21).

Drinking Blood Forbidden in Both Testaments

Acts 15 … “But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood. For Moses of old time hath in every city them that preach him, being read in the synagogues every sabbath day.” Acts 15:20-21

Drinking or eating blood is forbidden of God in both testaments so why would the Son of God contradict Himself by instituting such an abomination?

Transubstantiation has to be a false conclusion, otherwise the Lord Jesus Christ spoke against the Word of God.

“But flesh with the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat.” Genesis 9:4

“And whatsoever man there be of the house of Israel, or of the strangers that sojourn among you, that eateth any manner of blood; I will even set my face against that soul that eateth blood, and will cut him off from among his people. ¹¹ For the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul. ¹² Therefore I said unto the children of Israel, No soul of you shall eat blood, neither shall any stranger that sojourneth among you eat blood. ¹³ And whatsoever man there be of the children of Israel, or of the strangers that sojourn among you, which hunteth and catcheth any beast or fowl that may be eaten; he shall even pour out the blood thereof, and cover it with dust. ¹⁴ For it is the life of all flesh; the blood of it is for the life thereof: therefore I said unto the children of Israel, Ye shall eat the blood of no manner of flesh: for the life of all flesh is the blood thereof: whosoever eateth it shall be cut off” Leviticus 17:10-14

“Only be sure that thou eat not the blood: for the blood is the life; and thou mayest not eat the life with the flesh. ²⁴ Thou shalt not eat it; thou shalt pour it upon the earth as water. ²⁵ Thou shalt not eat it; that it may go well with thee, and with thy children after thee, when thou shalt do that which is right in the sight of the LORD” Deuteronomy 12:23-25

Communion God’s Way

Of Catholic communion, other writers note:

“Did you know the word mass means sacrifice, death, dismissal? The Catholics have masses, because in these masses they’re partaking in the killing, the sacrifice of Christ through the Eucharist ritual, and the occult/satanists also have masses because in the mass they offer up sacrifices of innocent lives to their so called gods, which is really satan and his demons. So, when wishing people “Merry Christmas” a person is actually wishing people happy sacrifice/death/dismissal of Jesus Christ; so in reality the whole Christmas thing has nothing to do with birth of Jesus. Christ was not born in December 25, the pagan sun-gods were born due to the winter solstice, Jesus, was born sometime late spring or early fall. ♡ To be healthy in our Christian walk and to be able to inherit God’s promise of heaven when we depart this world, we need to come away from all the pagan inspirations and lies in this world—it’s important to come away from the celebration of Christmas, in reality, it’s a big dark idolatrous lie against God and His only begotten Son.” Unknown

Another source says:

“The Mass. Unknown in the early church, the mass did not become an official doctrine until pronounced by the Lateran Council of 1215 under the direction of Pope Innocent III, and reaffirmed by the Council of Trent. The Church of Rome holds that the mass is a continuation of the sacrifice that Christ made on Calvary — in effect a re-crucifixion of Christ over and over again in an unbloody manner (cf. Heb. 9:22; 1 Jn. 1:7). They believe that by this means Christ offers Himself again and again as a sacrifice for sin (cf. Heb. 7:27; 9:12,25,26; 10:10,12,14,18), and that this sacrifice is just as efficacious to take away sin as was the true sacrifice on Calvary. Catholics thus teach the doctrine of transubstantiation (meaning a change of substance) — that the bread and wine (at communion) actually become (by the power of the priest!) the body and blood of Christ, which is then worshiped as God Himself! Indeed, the sacrifice of the mass is the central point of Catholic worship, as evidenced by the fact that those abstaining from attending mass are considered to have committed a mortal sin.” unknown

“The Eucharist has been referred to as the Catholic “wafer god”. I think that is an appropriate name for it. Without eating their Jesus, the Eucharist, Catholics believe they can’t go to heaven. Their Jesus, the Eucharist, is also called “The Sacrifice” and “The Victim” (see above encyclical for examples). You see, they don’t believe that the work of Jesus Christ was finished on the cross–He is supposed to be a perpetual victim always getting sacrificed over and over again. Dying over and over and over.

That’s why you continually see them with dead Jesus’ on crosses in their churches and homes–just hanging there, dead. My Jesus is not the “Eternal Victim”, He is the Eternal Lord of Lords and King of Kings! Jesus told me in His word that His ONE time sacrifice is finished, completed, over. The Lord Jesus Christ is back in heaven where He came from waiting on His enemies to be made His footstool, not hopping up to enter a piece of bread. The mythical Eucharist is just another man-made tradition.

What else did Karol say?

“The encouragement and deepening of the Eucharistic [cracker] worship are proofs of that authentic renewal…Jesus waits for us in this sacrament of love…”

Many Catholics say that I don’t understand Catholicism BUT NOT ONE will deny that they consider that cracker Jesus! NOT ONE WILL DENY that they fall down in front of images like this as well as statues, relics, paintings, and other images. NOT ONE will say that the ONE TIME sacrifice of Jesus Christ is enough to save your soul. I have told no lies on the Catholic religion on this site and I have no misunderstanding. Just go to some of their websites–you’ll see what I’m saying is true. Get into a conversation with one and ask them about these things–you’ll see they’re true. Compare their encyclicals, decretals, and catechism to the Bible and see if you don’t find contradictory documents. You don’t have to take my word for it.”

“Catholics tell me that “the Catholic Church is the only Church that was given the authority to interpret sacred scripture and to teach on matters of faith and morals without error.” Mmm, this is a pretty big claim. I have some questions for you, gentle reader:

[1] Look at the picture above one more time. Would you call that Eucharist cracker an image? Let me help you. An image is, according to Webster’s,

im-age (im’ij) n. an imitation or representation of a person or thing, drawn, painted, photographed, etc.; esp., a statue; a sculpted figure used as an idol.

The person is Jesus, the idol is the Eucharist cracker and surrounding monstrance. “But,” a Catholic would say to me, “we don’t worship idols, we worship Jesus.” Well, let’s look at Webster’s again for the definition of an idol:

i-dol (i’dl) n. an image of a god, used as an object or instrument of worship. [Didn’t Karol say to worship the Eucharist?]; any object of ardent or excessive devotion or admiration [Didn’t Karol say, “Eucharistic DEVOTION”?]

I like the following definition best which is also found in Webster’s New World Dictionary (1982): an impostor!”

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Favorite Eternal Security “Proof” Text? [podcast]

Excerpt from the book Lie of the Ages

Does John 10:27-29 Prove “Eternal Security”?

WHO are Jesus’ Sheep? Defined by, in God’s Word.

John 10:27-29

“My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father’s hand.” ~ John 10:27-29

Verse 27 is the condition necessary to appropriate the promises of verses 28-29.

Those who believe that a man can never lose his salvation, use this John 10:28-29 text but ignore the prerequisite, the divinely given condition – v27. Watch this:

Firstly, in this passage Jesus identifies those sheep whom He makes the security promise to. He says, “My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me.” In this we see one part divine and two parts the responsibility of the individual:

“I know them”—the divine part toward those who are truly in Christ, presently abiding (v. 27)
Those who are His sheep “hear” His “voice” and “follow” Him—the individual’s responsibility (v. 27)

The promise to be kept is a conditional promise which requires that we choose to continue to hear His voice and follow Him (John 10:27-29). Many today wrongly detach our LORD’s words in verse 27 from verses 28-29. In doing so, they perpetrate their “eternal security” mythology.

The problem for the eternal securists is that v27 has been intentionally been ignored…. It’s the actual condition Jesus gives for receiving the assurance promises He then gives in v28-29.

Those who seek to spread the “once saved always saved” heresy use John 10:28-29 to their advantage and conveniently ignore the preceding words of Christ in verse 27. Verses 28-29 are promises of security to those who have been genuinely born again and are currently abiding in Christ – hearing His voice and following Him (John 15:1-6). Many ignore the previous qualifying words (v. 27) of Jesus where Christ tells us that only those who are hearing His voice and following Him are promised that they are secure and will never perish. There is a condition to being secure in Christ—knowing Him—which requires continuing to abide in Him, hear His voice and follow Him (see also John 15).

“Jesus will neither leave us nor forsake us, but we can leave and forsake Him by choosing our sins OVER His love, grace and mercy!” Dino Filardo

Eternal securists have been taught to selectively interpret Scripture while ignoring mountains of Bible truth, in order to come to a predetermined conclusion.

Many a false teacher has built his own ministry empire dishonestly peddling this passage. Take a closer look. Anchor the promise to be kept in verses 28-29 on verse 27 where Jesus identifies who His sheep are – those who hear and continue to hear His voice and continue to follow Him (present tense). The promise to be kept is a glorious and yet conditional promise which requires that the individual recipient of the salvation gift of God chooses to continue to hear His voice and follow Him (John 10:27-29). Many today wrongly detach our LORD’s words in verse 27 from verses 28-29 of John 10. In doing so, they perpetrate their “eternal security” or otherwise called “once saved always saved” mythology. Beware as this was the first lie Satan told mankind, which led to the fall (Genesis 2:17; 3:4).

Instead of synthesizing the whole of Scripture, false teachers isolate certain verses for their own self-serving agenda and purpose (2 Corinthians 2:17, etc.).

The sheep Jesus’ promises are going to be kept are those who endure to the end, abide (remain) with Him (John 15:1-6). The Great Shepherd defines His sheep as those who are presently hearing His voice and following Him (present tense). John 10:27-29

It’s not difficult to mislead people in the direction of the sinful nature of their hearts – because then they can evade truly repenting which is a major life change and necessity for salvation. This is why Paul foretold of this hour and how men would “heap to themselves (false) teachers having itching ears.” (2 Timothy 4:3) “Itching ears” here represents unrepentant hearts.

OSAS people make a vain attempt at redefining the words of Scripture to fit their own self-serving agenda of lukewarmness, cross-less rebellion. For example they hyper-focus on “eternal” in the term “eternal life” while intentionally refusing to synthesize the whole of what Scripture states. They hyper-focus on the word “gift” and teach that a gift could never be lost which the rest of Scripture does not agree with. They then take the word “sealed” and make it to be permanent which it cannot possibly be because the same Greek word for “sealed” is used of Jesus’ tomb which we all know was NOT permanently sealed (Matthew 27:66). In this they bear false witness against the LORD and act like some Scriptures are more divinely inspired than others. This practice reveals the evil and deceit of their own hearts. Not just some Scripture in the Bible but rather “ALL scripture is given by inspiration of God…” (2 Timothy 3:16-17) It must all be synthesized, put together, compared (1 Corinthians 2:13). Error will result in the hearts and lives of those who do not search, study, and revere “ALL scripture” in God’s Word.

Eternal security deceivers don’t want to talk about Bible verses that contradict and expose their proof texts. You see, they don’t want to get awaken by the truth to the scam they’ve bought into. The wolves who they gullibly believe instead of God’s Word, taught them to cry “context, context” all while THEY are the beguilers who are taking Scripture out of context. Just like the demonic democrats in America, they accuse their adversaries of the exact thing THEY themselves are guilty of (Romans 2:1-3).

YOU are defending OSAS and yet you gave no Bible verses? Self-deception. If “once saved always saved” were true, WHY O WHY didn’t God tell us? Such a term, phrase, or concept appear no where in Scripture and the verses you use to “prove” it are taken out of their context. OSAS is undeniably the very first lie Satan ever told and it led to the fall of mankind from a HOLY God (Genesis 2:17; 3:4). If OSAS isn’t a doctrine of devils, nothing is! (1 Timothy 4:1-2)

Is the unchanging, Almighty God no longer “Holy, holy, holy” now that He sent His only begotten Son? (Isaiah 6:3; Revelation 4:8) If He’s still holy, no unrepentant person with sin will enter His holy Heaven (Revelation 21:8, 27, etc.).

“Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord:” Hebrews 12:14

HOW is it that so many treat the words of JESUS recorded in John 10 more divinely authoritative than the words of JESUS recorded in John 15? False teachers.

Most of the dupes who cite John 10:28-29 to “prove” they can never lose their salvation, 1. Don’t even know what the preceding verse says (v27), and 2. Have no clue what JESUS says in John 15:6.

“If a man abide (remain) not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.” John 15:6

In this John 10 passage used by the unconditional eternal security crew to peddle their wares, some neglect to look closely at verse 27 to see who Jesus was specifically speaking to when He promised “they shall never perish.” “They” refers to those who “hear my voice” and “follow me.” According to verse 27 the promise of eternal security is conditional. Assurance of salvation is only to those who are presently following Christ. In verse 27 we learn that protection from judgment to come is only to those who are currently 1) hearing His voice, 2) known by Him, and 3) following Him. This is consistent with the message seen in the whole of Holy Writ.

“For if AFTER they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are AGAIN entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. 21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, AFTER they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them. 22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit AGAIN; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.” 2 Peter 2:20-22

WHO did Jesus say His true sheep are?

“My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me” (Jn. 10:27). According to these words of Christ, those who “know” Jesus and “follow” Him are given the promise that they will “never perish.” As long as the follower hears His voice and follows Him, they are assured “eternal life.” This is exactly what the Son of God taught just a few chapters later in John 15 where He says that if a branch that is in Him does not remain or abide in Him, that person will be cut off and cast into the fire (hell).

Those who abide or remain under the shadow of His holy and protective wing shall remain secure in Him (Ps. 91:1). The Good Shepherd here said: “Neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.” No man can pluck us out of His protection except ourselves by our own decisions. We who are abiding are protected from the snare of other men drawing us away as we remain walking with the Son of God. If you’re tucked, you won’t get plucked. If you’re not tucked under the wing of intimacy with Jesus, you will, can, and are likely to be plucked out of His holy hand by your own sinful unbelief. The LORD told us “Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown” (Rev. 3:11).

It’s also notable that those who emphasize John 10 to convince themselves and others that they are “eternally secure”, don’t even know much less acknowledge the words of the Savior in John 15:1-6.

Telling.

“If a man abide (remain) not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.” John 15:6

Jesus taught repeatedly that some would not continue to follow Him (“abide”) and hear His voice and would consequently “fall away.” There is record of some who once believed and then stopped believing (Lk. 8:13; 13:23-30; Jn. 6:66; Acts 8:14-23).

Lie of the Ages (the book)

WHY do eternal securists get all upset when their fairy tale is exposed? Well, they are hiding behind the thin veneer of this heresy, feeling all secure, emboldened to live as they please, feeling assured in their lukewarmness and sin … denying Jesus instead of self, refusing to take up the cross that Jesus commanded all who would follow Him truly (Luke 9:23-24). Christ’s apostle Paul speaks of self-serving “enemies of the cross of Christ.” (Philippians 3:18-19) What’s behind this myth? The Psychology of Eternal Security [book]

Another Example of the Twisting of Scripture

The eternal securists seek to justify their OSAS heresy by misusing the following passage…. but in this Paul is speaking of those who go to Heaven, the judgment of saints, and not those who fell away and won’t be there because they will be in hell. They will not be present when this happens….

“Every man’s work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man’s work of what sort it is. 14 If any man’s work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. 15 If any man’s work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.” 1 Corinthians 3:13-15

One More….

Common Objection to Conditional Eternal Security….

“What about Romans 8:38-39 where it says nothing can separate us from the love of God?”

REPLY:

Simple: Notice the word LOVE not life. God will love us all the way into hell if we choose not to repent. His soul will even “weep in secret places for your pride” which comes before destruction (Jeremiah 13:17). The LORD is “Holy, holy, holy,” He’s just, and He will not ever coexist with sin. See the fall of lucifer (Isaiah 14:12-15; Ezekiel 28:13-19; Luke 10:18). The wages of sin is still death and the LORD will damn every soul that dies in sin, with no exception (Psalms 5:4; Habakkuk 1:13; Isaiah 6:3; Romans 6:23; Revelation 4:8; 21:8; 22:11, etc.). Read Jesus’s parable of the prodigal son Lk 15. Did the father love and miss his son? Yes. Did the father (represents God) go chase him down? No. The son who departed had to choose to return. Much truth there. Speaking of Romans, read 11:20-22. Now read 2 Peter 2:20-22 and the book of Hebrews.

1 John 2:19 is often also utilized to “prove” eternal security. Not.

“They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.” 1 John 2:19

Interestingly, the word “never” does not appear in this verse above which is so often used to “prove” OSAS. Let’s read it again with an objective mind. And, also remember what Jesus says about the primary importance of His teaching of the seed and the soil, the sower and the Word:

“And he said unto them, Know ye not this parable? and how then will ye know all parables?” Mark 4:13

The honest student of the whole Counsel of God’s Word knows that numerous clear Bible truths reveal that a saved person can turn away from the LORD, so we know that the apostle John could not possibly be saying that a saved person could never depart from the LORD. In my opinion, this verse is the best argument the eternal security proponent has, yet it’s not enough. There must be two or three witnesses and not just one (2 Cor. 13:1). After a closer examination of this text, one will find that verse 19 does not teach or justify “once saved always saved.” When any one verse is taken to the exclusion of the whole Word of God, one will certainly misunderstand the doctrine of the LORD which can only be apprehended by “study.” (2 Tim. 2:15) This verse is like any other verse of Scripture – it must be taken in light of the entire Counsel of God. The context to be considered is 1 John 2:18-29).

In examining the context in which 1 John 2:19 is set, we see that false teachers whom John calls “many antichrists,” had come and were telling these believers that Jesus was not the Christ (v22).

Let’s look at verses 18 and 19 together:

“Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time. They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.” 1 John 2:18-19

Note here that it is specifically of these “antichrists” that John speaks and says that “if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.”

John was speaking of those who were once saved but then departed from the faith (1 Tim 4:1), they believed and then fell away (Luke 8:12-13) …. then departed from the believers in that fellowship.

Teddy Caldwell writes:

“OSAS insists that those are professing believers, but 1 John 2:18 says such people are antichrists. 1 John 2:22 says an antichrist is one who denies that Jesus is the Christ. Anyone who does that isn’t a believer and isn’t even trying to look like one.”

Concerning 1 John 2:19, Donald Stamps, in the Life in the Spirit Study Bible, writes:

“‘THEY WENT OUT FROM US.’ When the antichrists departed from their fellowship with true believers, they were not in a saving relationship with Christ. This allows for two possibilities: (1) They were never true believers to begin with, or (2) they had once been in a saving relationship with Christ but afterward abandoned their faith in Christ.”

Right here in verse 24 of this passage we see the doctrine of personal responsibility to “remain” in faithful obedience to the LORD or lose one’s place with God (1 Cor. 15:2; Gal. 6:9; Col. 1:23). This is a teaching found throughout Holy Writ – the divine requirement to stay saved or lose all in eternity, “suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.” (Jude 7)

“Let that therefore abide (remain) in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. IF (denotes condition) that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father. And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life.” 1 John 2:24-25

Verse 24 alone tells us that we cannot think that verse 19 means that someone who is at some point in right standing with God can never depart from Him and lose out. Also, verse 25 tells us that “eternal life” (not just rewards) is at stake and the promise contingent upon the believer abiding or remaining in that “which ye have heard from the beginning” which is the Gospel. “Eternal life” is assured as long as one is remaining rooted in Jesus Christ. This is the overwhelmingly consistent message of God’s Word.

In verse 26 John says “These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you.” Verse 19 is written about the deceivers who sought to “seduce” these disciples John was addressing and not of true believers.

With all of Scripture in consideration, we can conclude that 1 John 2:19 is a specific example and not a rule of doctrine.

If you truly wish to search out this matter, let me encourage you to closely examine, break down and study this entire text (1 Jn. 2:18-29). In order to ascertain truth, one must compare the verse in question with all other related Scriptures, beginning with the context in which the verse is set (Isa. 28:9-10; 1 Cor. 2:13).

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“Epaphras, who is one of you, a servant of Christ, saluteth you, always labouring fervently for you in prayers, that ye may stand perfect and complete in all the will of God. 13 For I bear him record, that he hath a great zeal for you, and them that are in Laodicea, and them in Hierapolis.” Colossians 4:12-13

One source notes:

“Epaphras’ prayer is a powerful New Testament model of intercession found in Colossians 4:12. As the founder of the church in Colossae, Epaphras is described by the Apostle Paul as ‘wrestling’ or ‘laboring earnestly’ in prayer so that his congregation would stand mature, firm, and fully assured in the will of God.”

Jesus Heals the Paralytic Man who was Dropped Down to Him from the Roof

Mark 2

“1 And again he entered into Capernaum after some days; and it was noised that he was in the house.

2 And straightway many were gathered together, insomuch that there was no room to receive them, no, not so much as about the door: and he preached the word unto them.

3 And they come unto him, bringing one sick of the palsy, which was borne of four.

4 And when they could not come nigh unto him for the press, they uncovered the roof where he was: and when they had broken it up, they let down the bed wherein the sick of the palsy lay.

5 When Jesus saw their faith, he said unto the sick of the palsy, Son, thy sins be forgiven thee.

6 But there were certain of the scribes sitting there, and reasoning in their hearts,

7 Why doth this man thus speak blasphemies? who can forgive sins but God only?

8 And immediately when Jesus perceived in his spirit that they so reasoned within themselves, he said unto them, Why reason ye these things in your hearts?

9 Whether is it easier to say to the sick of the palsy, Thy sins be forgiven thee; or to say, Arise, and take up thy bed, and walk?

10 But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power on earth to forgive sins, (he saith to the sick of the palsy,)

11 I say unto thee, Arise, and take up thy bed, and go thy way into thine house.

12 And immediately he arose, took up the bed, and went forth before them all; insomuch that they were all amazed, and glorified God, saying, We never saw it on this fashion.” Mark 2:1-12

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