The fall out, the delusion of fools.
PEOPLE crying out to the LORD is beyond precious and yet, we must beware of the wolves in sheep’s clothing in our midst that Jesus and His holy apostles continually warned us about – who “lie in wait to deceive” – to insert themselves, who usurp a place of interception, where they interject poison for their own self-serving agenda, to intercept the affection of the hearts of men (Ephesians 4:14; Colossians 2:18-19).
“That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive; 15 But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:” Ephesians 4:14-15
THE TEST: If it’s a move of God, sin, repentance, hell, holiness, judgment to come, Jesus Christ, and the cross He commanded we take up daily WILL BE PREACHED!
“Revival” as the word is used among church leaders, is an indu$try to them – something they concoct, fabricate, and perpetrate on the people! Beware saints. These same men are not calling men to repentance, to the cross, to be set apart holy to the LORD. Therefore their enterprises are not legitimate, are not a true move of God. They emphasize and use the fanfare to draw the gullible to their “revivals” to win them to their fraud movements and organizations and churches.
Just what are people being won into?
“Any objection to the carryings on of our present golden-calf Christianity is met with the triumphant reply, ‘But we are winning them!’ And winning them to what? To true discipleship? To cross-carrying? To self-denial? To separation from the world? To crucifixion of the flesh? To holy living? To nobility of character? To a despising of the world’s treasures? To hard self-discipline? To love for God? To total committal to Christ? Of course, the answer to all these questions is no.” From chapter 30 of “Man – The Dwelling Place of God” by A.W. Tozer (1960)
From an eye witness to the sodomy at Asbury:
“Thank you. This is an eye witness to the sodomy at Asbury. Anyone who still defends this abomination called Asbury “revival” is an antichrist. 100%.”
The separation is a blessing (Matt 10:34) and is ordained. We are seeing those whose hearts, consciences are captive to the WORD of God and those who are in rebellion – “NOT of God” (John 8:47). This is not even close. For weeks now this type of exposure has been coming out in the open and STILL those who defended this demonic staged delusion are defending it. They are “NOT of God” according to Jesus (John 8:47).
The word “revival” appears nowhere in God’s Word. “Repent” or “Repentance” appear 72 times. Let’s get a clue. This is a message in and of itself. We don’t need man’s staged “revivals,” we need to repent before a Holy God!
“The purpose of worship is not to obtain an emotional high, to placate the flesh or be entertained. It’s not a theater stage for dramatics or performance. The purpose of worship is to honor, glorify, and praise our holy God ‘in spirit and in truth (John 4:23-24).'” Unknown
It’s only the biblically illiterate who are also rebels, lawless, and refusing to seek God in HIS Word for themselves, who get gleeful when they hear that a new “Jesus” or “Bible” movie from heretics and Catholics is coming out. Laughably delusional. Hell awaits. 2 Thessalonians 2. Read it. KJB. They have openly rejected the knowledge of God.
“My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because THOU HAS REJECTED KNOWLEDGE, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law (Word) of thy God, I will also forget thy children.” Hosea 4:6
I am thinking, in my limited scope, that perhaps we have made “revival” out to be something we do not see in Scripture. The Word never even appears. “Revive” does, and re-vive or resurrection, re-filling with life, comes when we are crucified, dead and buried with Christ. Yet the cross is never even mentioned in what is being called “revival.” The whole industry of “revival” doesn’t seem to fit with what we see in the history of the early church. Firstly, can a group of men just decide to stage a “revival” by planning it and promoting it and saying that there’s going to be a “revival” as if men control such? And, in these “revivals” it’s all about the Holy Ghost and not Jesus. Huge red flag, right? Read John 16:13-14.
It’s never coming out of the WORD itself and it’s always about the men and their supposed mission and never about Christ. It’s all about the idol “revival.” People travel across the country to get some feeling and yet, now we know that any spirit giving people those feelings, was not the Holy Ghost at Asbury – a sodomite camp that has a satanic labyrinth on campus. It was “another spirit” which is a devil (2 Corinthians 11:2-4; Galatians 1:6-9).
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“The great falling away will happen because of the shallowness of these false revivals not producing anything of any substance. People are going to become delusioned because there was no change or conviction. Because they were not based on the word of God producing repentance which produces changed lives.” Darrel Moore
REPLY:
Yes, we are seeing what seems the fulfillment of 2 Thessalonians 2, where the “strong delusion” is right in the midst of that which claims to be Christ’s body. No doubt Paul’s tears and anguish were over the LORD showing him that wolves were coming from within to mislead sheep away from Christ (Acts 20:29-32).
Division, the Dividing Sword – Matthew 10:34
“There is a big difference in ‘all HAVE sinned’ and those who continue to practice sin while claiming to be a preacher or evangelist! Seriously, I am so sick of that mantra being used (by wolf defenders) anytime a watchman does their job and warns!” Gloria Marshall Sykes
“The sheep and the goats are being decisively separated in the church today as we speak. The end times that we are in is characterized by the great falling away, not a time of ‘revival’.” Barbara
The cry echoed by a myriad of wolves is “The church needs a revival,” and yet repentance is seldom mentioned. Think: Why would they bother mentioning repentance when they never mention sin? There are 17 soul damning sins specifically cited in Galatians 5:19-21 alone. Many are gullibly buying into the “The church needs a revival” without testing who is saying this nor comparing it to the Word of God (Acts 17:10-11; 2 Timothy 2:15). The first word and divine command of the original Gospel is “Repent” (Matthew 3:2; 4:17; Acts 2:38; 3:19, etc.). So, this begs the question: WHAT are they reviving people into? WHAT are they reviving in people? WHAT are they winning people to? It certainly can’t be that people are being won to Christ when it’s not His Gospel being preached but rather “another gospel” (2 Corinthians 11:2-5; Galatians 1:6-9).
The following New Testament essential, preached by Christ and His holy apostles as an imperative, will never be heard in the vast majority of modern churches or any of these fake “revivals.”
“Bring forth therefore fruits meet for (proving, consistent with) repentance: 9 And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham. 10 And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.” Matthew 3:8-10
Clear proof that true and imperative repentance will always bring forth the fruit of holiness, a set apart life.
Memory verse:
“He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall have mercy.” Proverbs 28:13
Confessing AND forsaking our sins proves we’ve repented. Anything short of overcoming reveals the absence of true repentance and the crucified life.
Let’s cease making claims when there’s no evidence of the delusions we believe. Stop it. JUST because YOU want something to be true, DOES NOT make it true. Repent.
The Jesus Revolution is just the latest “I-want-it-to-be-true-because-i’m-too-lazy-to-read-God’s-Word-for-myself” movie deception.
Claiming that those who don’t like your latest little “Jesus” movie are pharisees seems no different than clue-less, debunked Democrats saying conservatives are “racist”….. all for not agreeing with their conclusions. Discernment is biblical, not pharisaical. It is the mandate of God for His true disciples (Matthew 7:16, 20; Acts 17:10-11; Romans 16:17-18; Jude 3-4; Revelation, etc.).
At this point it is becoming increasingly obvious that the prophesied great apostasy is coming from within professing Christianity. Read 2 Thessalonians 2. All the high staged “Christian” sources are promoting it. But does that make it legit, of God? No! (Luke 6:26.)
No great awakening or great revival is coming. The Bible foretold the great falling away. Read 2 Thessalonians and cease following mere men (Isaiah 2:22).
AND all this fanfare is for no small purpose, and the agenda is to deceive if it were possible, the very elect (Matthew 24:21-24).
We just saw, in living color, out in the open for all to see…. WHO is “of God” and who among us is “NOT of God” (John 8:47). This was a test run – and all who will bow to the antichrist were made manifest for all to see (1 Corinthians 11:19). A few will repent and the rest will remain in darkness and plunge headlong and irrevocably into the flames of eternal damnation for loving darkness rather than light, for not choosing the fear of the LORD (John 3:19-21; Proverbs 1:29).
HAVE YOU noticed the crickets? WE are now marked safe from the demonic hoards who came out of the woodwork to defend a 100% clearly proven debunked “revival.” Few if any have openly admitted they were wrong. Soul damning pride, arrogance. The LORD saw how bold they were to defend the works of His very enemies and yet say nothing against those works of darkness now that they are openly exposed.
Biblical truth: From the beginning, God ordained that His people learn of Him via HIS words and not a movie, “revival,” or a production, or anything else produced by sinful men (Deuteronomy 4:1-10; John 5:39-40; 2 Timothy 2:15, etc.). The written Word is where we have the perfect, permanent, portrait of our LORD. It’s beyond gullible to think that sinful men can depict the image and doctrine of the infinite Almighty God. God’s Word reveals that “Holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost” and that’s how we were given the very Word of our God which “is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness” (2 Timothy 3:16; 2 Peter 1:19-21). THAT’s where so many are deceived. If they were truly saved, they’d be in the Word, and would not be falling for every wind of false doctrine coming down the pike via wolves in sheep’s clothing. True elders in Christ’s body are diligently grounding souls in the Word of God itself – so that they are healthy and growing in Christ, protected, and speaking the Word of God. Read Ephesians 4:11-15.
WITH no exception, anyone being used of God is grounding their audience in the final divine authority of God’s written Word (2 Timothy 3:16-17; 2 Peter 1:19-21, etc.). All others are frauds.
Lynne Parker writes:
“Christians will be tried by the Word in this hour. There is no more riding the fence or taking a neutral position. God Himself will place us all in a position to stand or fall according to the Word. “Deception” and its sister “delusion” are gripping the Body of Christ, and like a dark cloud it is covering the land. The false dominion (NAR) theology and signs and wonders movement has effectively conditioned multitudes to forsake the authority of God’s Word and embrace their subjective feelings as guidance in discernment concerns. But in these latter days only those who divorce their feelings and trust only in God’s Word and have developed a love for the truth will overcome the devil’s schemes. Sadly many will be lost – it’s unfolding right before us.”
What has come to light in this separation of the sheep and goats, the wheat and the tares….
“Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.” Proverbs 16:18
ANYONE who doesn’t presently have and hold God’s written Word as the final divine authority of their life, is “NOT of God” (John 8:47). To date, such rebels have foolishly, arrogantly sought to elevate their puny-ness above or on the same level as the Most High. Pride causes fallen men to be wise in their own conceit (Proverbs 16:18).
“Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. 6 In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths. 7 Be not wise in thine own eyes: fear the LORD, and depart from evil.” Proverbs 3:5-7
Why would we question God?
“Woe unto him that striveth with his Maker! Let the potsherd strive with the potsherds of the earth. Shall the clay say to him that fashioneth it, What makest thou? or thy work, He hath no hands?” Isaiah 45:9
Like their father the devil, pride will be the eternal undoing of all who do not hearken to, learn, and live the words of God (Isaiah 14:12-15; Ezekiel 28:12-19; Luke 10:18; Revelation 12:7-12). It’s an open book test – the books shall soon be opened to judge the wicked (Revelation 20:11-15).
“Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else.” Isaiah 45:22
EVERY person who bought the lies of Asbury, He Gets Us, the Jesus Revolution, or The Chosen, does NOT hold God’s Word as final divine authority. They live by their own feelings instead because they are “(..enemies of the cross of Christ: Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things.)” In other words, they are full of self and rejected by the Savior.
“(For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ: 19 Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things.)” Philippians 3:18-19
FLASH POINT: Nothing is “biblical,” or “is of God” just because it made You, a sinner, to feel good (John 8:47). Repent now – you are an antichrist who is living in the flesh (Romans 8:5-6; Philippians 3:18-19).
IF the name of Jesus Christ, His Gospel, His words, if sin, repentance, the cross, judgment, and holiness aren’t being preached, it’s NOT of God! (See John 8:47.) It’s a revival of deception, not truth! Mark these vile wolves (Romans 16:17-18).
Any person who thought this was a move of God has got a wake up call – but only if you seize the moment. You are in big trouble, in deep darkness, and in utter need of true repentance, fasting and prayer, and getting in the Word (KJB) like your life depends upon it – because it does. Otherwise the flames of eternal damnation shall feed upon your rebellious soul. Repent now. Re-turn to Christ with absolute reckless abandon!
To a lady who is insisting that this scam “revival” is true, based on her own feelings, using not even one Bible verse, the following reply was given:
You are plainly resting your case upon and admitting you are trusting in your own heart and feelings and not God’s Word (Proverbs 28:26), which apparently you do not know and will be “destroyed” if you don’t repent (Hosea 4:6). Are you going to blasphemously claim that God is blessing what He calls an “abomination”? See Leviticus 18:22; Romans 1.
To those still daring to defend the works of Satan (Asbury, the Jesus Revolution, The Chosen, He Gets Us)….while claiming to be saved: Do you care what the BIBLE says? According to Jesus, such proves if we are “of God” or “NOT of God” (John 8:47). How can people possibly defend something like this – just because it makes THEM feel good? Simple: They have refused to truly repent, die to self, take up the cross, and follow Jesus in the crucified life and so they serve the god of self (Matthew 16:24-25; Galatians 2:20; 6:14; Philippians 3:18-19, etc.).
It simply doesn’t matter how many gullible, biblically-illiterate people attempt to prop it up, Asbury simply, clearly, miserably fails the biblical test for a move of God (Acts 17:10-11; 1 Thessalonians 5:21, etc.). No Bible. No repentance. No mention of Jesus Christ. Overt celebration of the “abomination” of sodomy (Leviticus 18:22), etc.
The frenzy, fanfare, and pandemonium of the fake “revivals” is all about the revival itself… and not JESUS CHRIST (Colossians 2:8-10, 18-19). The feeling, the experience, is what is promoted and magnified, never Christ Himself. This is 100% “the spirit of antichrist” – anti means in place of. Jesus is not only demoted, He’s never even mentioned in these fraud “revivals.”
Have you ever noticed that when there are fake revivals the idol is actually the revival itself and the supposed feeling people are getting and it’s never based on or grounded and centered upon the Word of God? They barely opened the Bible at Asbury and when they did it was a fake lame satanically corrupted version.
You Still Going to Claim Asbury wasn’t Staged?
More egg on the face of those who insist that Asbury was a move of God. What are the chances…. unless it’s all contrived?
More proof Asbury was staged. This current “revival” at Asbury began in February 2023. And, what are the chances of this “God revival” in the same month, each time it happened with the exemption of once in the neighboring month? Hmmmmm. This is from the Asbury Seminary website:
NEW THOUGHTS ABOUT ASBURY:
BACKFIRES ARE A REALITY – ALWAYS HAVE BEEN!
The greatest backfire in history is when the antichrists, the enemies of the LORD Almighty crucified the LORD Jesus who was to their horror raised again from the dead whereby death, hell, the grave, and Satan were defeated! (See Colossians 2:14-19; Hebrews 2:9, 14-15.) Jesus defeated death BY DYING – whereby He shed His precious blood on that cross, was buried, and resurrected – which was the greatest event in human history!
“The princes of this world” in the verse below refer to demonic spirit beings in the heavenlies and to their human agents on earth (Ephesians 6:12).
“Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.” 1 Corinthians 2:8
“They didn’t understand the hidden wisdom of God (Christ on a cross) or realize that their murder of the Holy Son of God would result in their own destruction. Had they known the ways of God, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.” Believer’s Bible Commentary
Applying the Backfire Principle (reality) to What’s Transpiring Today
COULD IT BE possible that these fake revivals will result in a backfire on Satan and his evil human agents? One thing is for certain, people are hungry for God…. they know something is missing in their lives.
People seeking God, hungering for what is missing in their lives – JESUS – is a blessing. Yet wolves who capitalize upon, who exploit, and make merchandise of these people is diabolical! (See Matthew 21:15-17; 2 Peter 2:1-3, etc..)
AND, you and I, Christ’s disciples are to be blessed, busy with communicating His whole-counsel truth to them, showing them via the 10 Commandments how they’ve sinned against God and are in need of REPENTANCE and to RECEIVE Christ who died, was buried, and raised again from the dead to justify them (Acts 2:38; 3:19; 20:21; John 1:12; Romans 10:9-13).
“Asbury celebrates the abomination of Rome called the eucharist- with openly gay people without any shame or fear of God. Rome lets gay, pedophile PRIESTS conduct what should be a holy “remembrance” of the death of Christ, but the great harlot decided to pervert the remembrance into a trans-Jesus WAFER GOD. Apostate churches fellowship with sodomites as if they are on the narrow road to heaven. They assure hell-bound sinners “peace and safety,” and “No evil will come upon you”; “Ye shall not surely die” if you “Do what thou wilt” contrary to Christ’s commands. They don’t cast known fornicators or pedophiles out till they repent, as commanded (1 Corinthians 5). They are proud of their FALSE LOVE spirit of Jezebel, teaching fornication and sacrificing to devils is acceptable by their heinous example. They cover the sins of pedophile priests by moving them to a different parish so they may continue abusing boys undetected.” AR
If Fox and CBN are promoting it, what does that tell us?
SO God is now putting His blessing on a camp that is promoting what He calls an “abomination” – homsexuality? (See Leviticus 18:22.) Hmmmmm. More paid cri.si.s actors? Time to wake up people. Read the Bible, the King James Bible. WHAT “spirit”? “Another spirit” (Galatians 1:6-9; 2 Corinthians 11:2-5).
There is No Cross at Asbury and on this fact alone, it’s a false revival.
Can there be TRUE reviving? YES! AND true reviving – resurrection, only comes from God when His child chooses to die the death – to be daily crucified and buried with Christ (2 Corinthians 4:10-12). God raises no one up who doesn’t choose to die downward! Any supposed “revival” that doesn’t have the cross of Jesus Christ at the center of it is absolutely false. And so anyone being led to promote or defend it is under the power of a deceiving spirit, the spirit of antichrist. Repent now. Turn to the LORD Himself for real. Lay down your life in this fleeting world and abandon yourself to the One who made you and came and died the redeeming death, was buried, was raised again from the dead, and is coming back for His own!
God says we’re fools if we believe He’s going to raise up someone who’s not dead and buried.
“Thou fool, that which thou sowest is not quickened (resurrected, revived), except it die:” 1 Corinthians 15:36
God raises up – revives – no one who isn’t dying downward! Read Romans 6 each morning this week. Die to self. Crucify the lusts of the flesh and walk with Jesus in the Spirit (Galatians 5:16-24).
The LORD is not going to raise someone upward – revive them – who doesn’t repent and die to self. So, any supposed “revival” that doesn’t have the cross of Christ at the forefront is a false revival. 100%.
If there is no cross in the message, there is no Gospel. It’s a false gospel, “another gospel” (2 Corinthians 11:2-5; Galatians 1:6-9).
WHERE O WHERE is the cross in today’s modern church world? If you aren’t hearing it constantly, run for your life. You are sitting under those who are the very “enemies of the cross of Christ: 19 Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly.”
“(For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ: 19 Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things.)” Philippians 3:18-19
WHERE is the cross being preached at Asbury – the blood of His cross and the one He commanded you to take up daily? Read Luke 9:23-24; Colossians 1:20. IT’S NOWHERE TO BE FOUND AT ASBURY – and so any and every person who condoned this atrocity is guilty of using the name of the LORD in vain and in need of repentance, now.
Coming out of Her is a divine mandate, a necessity to be saved!
“Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? 15 And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? 16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. 17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you, 18 And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.” 2 Corinthians 6:14-18
False prophets speak about love and unity – yet it’s never verbalized by them that the only unity the true body of Christ has is with those who also rest in, embrace, live out and hold to the final divine authority of God’s written Word. All other unity is false, fleshly unity. True servants of the LORD speak about Jesus Christ and His redemption, the blood of Jesus, holiness, the cross, judgment, sin, repentance, being ready for the return of Christ, and truth. Beware.
“The elder unto the wellbeloved Gaius, whom I love in the TRUTH. 2 Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in health, even as thy soul prospereth. 3 For I rejoiced greatly, when the brethren came and testified of the TRUTH that is in thee, even as thou walkest in the TRUTH. 4 I have no greater joy than to hear that my children walk in TRUTH.” 3 John 1-4
In His prayer to the Father, Jesus makes it clear that His Word, the exclusive island of His truth, is where His saints are sanctified – where they are set apart as His special, only bride. All others are outside of His kingdom.
“Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.” John 17:17
The primary way God leads His New Testament body is by His written Word. His true disciples have no unity with those who are not born again AND presently abiding, walking by and in the record of Holy Scripture (Psalms 119:105; John 10:35; 2 Timothy 3:15-17; 2 Peter 1:3-4; 12-21, etc.).
Jesus teaches us that real change and the “manifest” presence of the LORD only come to those who embrace His Word, who love, worship, and obey Christ (John 8:47; 14:21-23). These blessings don’t come from going to a supposed “revival” and praising and worshipping the LORD endlessly. There is no magic bullet in Christ’s kingdom but there is a cross to be born, “daily” (Luke 9:23-24). Out of that abiding relationship with Christ, practically walking with Him daily will be the progression of “fruit… more fruit, much fruit” produced in our lives (John 15). Time to get into the trenches and stop buying Satan’s lies. The cross, the trench equals your own death and burial and guarantees the resurrection of Christ – raising you in His glory, His grace, His power, and His victory! Read 2 Corinthians 4:10-12.
“I asked one of the revival faithful to share at least one real testimony and was attacked in an accusatory way…no true testimonies are available apparently.” Barbara
DOES GOD want to pour out His Spirit on His people? YES! (Book of Acts!) The LORD desires to pour out His Holy Ghost and yet, how do we behold Him doing that in His Word? See John 14:21-23 if you want more of Jesus, the Father, and the Holy Ghost. We know it’s not the LORD pouring out His Holy Spirit on any person, movement, or assembly where HIS WORD is not clearly honored at the forefront of it all, the groundwork of that working of His Spirit. Those who honor God honor His Word – otherwise they despise the Almighty and are antichrists.
“He that is OF GOD heareth (Honors, esteems, holds to, obeys) God’s words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are NOT OF GOD.” John 8:47
When and every time God’s Word is not front and center, no matter what’s done, it’s “another spirit” flooding that atmosphere on the wings of the rebels who preach “another gospel” which is elevating “another Jesus” which is a demon. “Seducing spirits (demons) and doctrines of devils” are inseparably intertwined.
“Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; 2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;” 1 Timothy 4:1-2
Acts 17
On Mars’ Hill, the apostle Paul “preached unto them Jesus, and the resurrection” (v18), and then he preached on their sin of idolatry (v29), then he preached that “God…now commandeth all men every where to repent” (v30). And he preached “judgment to come” (v31; Acts 24:25).
The result:
“So Paul departed from among them. 34 Howbeit certain men clave unto him, and believed: among the which was Dionysius the Areopagite, and a woman named Damaris, and others with them.” Acts 17:33-34
Beware of the Cessasionists
Beware of those counterfeits who come in on the wings of an obviously fake revival and blaspheme the LORD by taking away from His stated New Testament program – which includes His desire to fill, to baptize each and every one of His children with His Holy Ghost. Beware saints. God’s people sinned when they “limited the holy one of Israel” (Psalms 78:41).
“Yea, they turned back and tempted God, and limited the Holy One of Israel.” Psalms 78:41
We are pressing forward and not drawing back (Philippians 3:13-14; Hebrews 10:38-39).
The following is a divine command:
“Bless the LORD, O my soul, and forget not all his benefits:” Psalms 103:2
Bible Fact/Truth: The LORD wants you full of His Holy Ghost! And no man can change that. See Holy Spirit category.
“The doctrine of Christ” is all of what the Bible says about Him and all that He and His apostles taught. Anyone who doesn’t remain in the doctrine of Christ, the whole counsel thereof, after being saved, is a hell bound rebel.
“Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in (remains not in) the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.” 2 John 9
Many today have chosen to reject certain portions of God’s Word due to not liking what it says. Many today are universalists who believe God is love and yet He’s no longer going to judge and be just and deliver to hell those who die outside of Christ. These are hell bound heretics who have rejected the clear teachings of Jesus Christ. See Mark 9:43-49 for example.
People are still defending this delusion:
To a person who was calling us to cease telling the truth, shining the light of Christ into the devil’s dark and insidious intrusions into the professing body of Christ…. the following rebuke was leveled:
Jesus says we know people “BY THEIR fruits” and so who’s lying… you, or the Son of God? I’ve got my answer. Matt 7:16, 20. God is calling you to get into His Word for real and cease peddling misinformation concerning Him which would be to use His holy Name in vain. Read Matthew 23 and destroy the fairytale image you have of the Son of God. Repent now.
ANY person agreeing with the Asbury “revival” is openly declaring that they are antichrist rebels who are calling God a liar, Who says that homosexuality is an “abomination” (Leviticus 18:22).
Any person who does not choose to agree with God, with what He stated in His Word, is a lost soul who is calling the Almighty a liar.
You cannot disagree with God’s Word and still be right with God.
“A woke church is a broken church. Repent or perish! Sodom will burn! God does not accept willful sinners who will not confess what HE calls sin and repent of it. Those who condone sin are on the broad way to destruction regardless of how many hours they sing songs, raise hands, pray, FEEL good. ‘Lord Lord have not we prayed for DAYS? Have not we praised your name for weeks on end? Have not we appeared righteous outwardly? Have we not redefined revival to inclusive, diverse, and equitable? Did we not allow the minority gender identifiers to lead?’ Asbury doesn’t qualify as a Bible revival any more than an mRNA jab qualifies as a vaccine. Yet MANY are deceived by both trusting the ‘experts’ of seminaries and government institutions. Cursed be the man who trusts in man, and whose heart departs from the Lord …blind being led by the blind into the ditch of counterfeit revival.” A.R.
“The thing that is missing from all these false revivals is the message of the cross, repentance, and truly coming to JESUS. The other thing I did hear was that there were homosexuals helping to lead worship and that there was a lot of repetitive words in worship being done (those are mantra’s) and not something we should be doing.” LG
Invite the effeminate, the sodomites into the church? Well, if they attend, let them hear the pure raw Word of God which includes the call to absolute repentance. If they don’t repent, they must be turned over to Satan, removed (1 Corinthians 5). Regrettably perhaps less than 5% of church gatherings today are led by true men of God. Wolves abound just as was foretold (Matthew 7:15; 24:11; 2 Timothy 3:13; 1 John 4:1, etc.).
If you attend a “church” that is not dealing with any form of fornication the Bible way – calling it out, calling it sin, requiring repentance, you are part of a an antichrist congregation. Run.
The body of Christ is commanded not even to associate with, to not even eat with any professing Christian who is a fornicator.
“But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat. 12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? DO NOT YE JUDGE THEM THAT ARE WITHIN? 13 But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.” 1 Corinthians 5:11-13
HOW did the body of Christ deal with fornicators? Read 1 Corinthians 5. Knowledge up, now! Know the Word. Pour over this chapter.
IF this “revival” were truly of the LORD, why would the secular WORLD be promoting it? WHY all the promotion needed? Hmmmmm.
“Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world” (1 John 4:1). Bad fruit – people camping out in a building. In Scripture, true moves of God always moved disciples out to the world (Mark 16:15; Acts 1:8; 8:4, etc.). This is a self-serving, self-absorbed “move” and so we know it’s not of God. Lust gets – love gives. They are promoting what God calls an “abomination” (Leviticus 18:22). They have pushed Elijah Drake to the forefront. He’s an open homo whom they pushed onto the platform at Asbury so he could tell everyone he’s practicing what God calls an “abomination.” Asbury has a cursed root, bad fruit (Matthew 12:33).
This is a recent social media post from Elijah Drake, a sodomite being promoted by Asbury.
Elijah Drake writes on February 18, 2023
“I guess it took until the Asbury outpouring for some people to realize that gay people are in their churches, their pews, their choirs, their worship teams, their prayer groups, their youth groups, their seminaries, and all that. And they’re worthy of love and dignity and care.”
And, yes, these and all sinners are entitled to hear the divine command to repent and if they don’t, they are not to be allowed to remain as leaven, a cancer to spread and destroy others! Read 1 Corinthians 5.
It seems obvious that Elijah Drake is an infiltrator and has no intention of repenting.
One writer notes:
“We once allowed a Lesbian attendance in our congregation. This lasted long enough to determine she was not there to repent, but persuade. We showed her the door.” Tim
I agree with brother Tim on this one and any disciple who has ever dealt with homos will most likely agree – they are not there to repent but rather to infiltrate, to influence others into their evil.
To those insisting that this Asbury “revival” is from God, I’ve been sharing the following:
That doesn’t make this one a true revival at all. This is not an outpouring from God at all. At the very foundations Asbury is the promotion of that which GOD calls an “abomination” (Lev 18:22). They are promoting it…. take a look at link below and also these things are all to be TESTED and not just accepted. “Quench not the Spirit” (1 Th. 5:19). “Despise not prophesyings” (1 Th. 5:20). “Prove (test) all things; hold fast that which is good” (1 Thessalonians 5:21).
Stacy Strother writes:
“There is soooo much evidence now, brought to the surface by men and women of God with a strong Spirit of discernment, that is compiled against that Asbury being a true Holy Ghost invoked revival. It is not my place to judge the heart, God does that, only the fruit. A feeling is not enough. It has to be fueled by Gods Word and not by desire for pushing an agenda, as we have discovered there. If you have a friend that went and they are a Christian, if that friend knew that the Asbury revival was connected to Catholicism, Universalism, Ecumenism, and the LGBTQ community, would they have thought it was of God? Hopefully not, or else, they will have proven where they stand in God. The devil is deceptive.
The last days ‘world religion’ will be of such candor. ‘Christians’ will turn against Christians and give them over to the magistrates.
The time is now. You are witnessing the last days one world religion forming before your eyes. The Bible said it would be this way.
The LGBTQ community is sifting their way into our lives, our communities, and our churches, forcing their beliefs and dividing the flock of Jesus – well the mere professors, from the authentic disciples of Christ who stand upon the Word of God as their final divine authority. Be prepared. It only gets worse – until Jesus appears. Discernment is a must have in todays religious world.
You can be sincere, but sincerely wrong. The Mormons are sincere, JW’s, Muslims, Catholics, oneness Pentecostals, all, sincere people.
The enemy isn’t going to come at us with a false looking deity like Hinduism or Buddhism have. He’s already done that. Nor is he going to come at us with a large dark shroud that can be easily spotted.
2 Corinthians 11:14
“And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.”
King James Version (KJV)
He is going to make it appear to be legit, and it’s not.”
Asbury Fake “Revival” Exploded
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8 Classes of Sinners Guaranteed to Spend Eternity in the Lake of Fire [podcast]
8 Classes of Sinners Guaranteed to Spend Eternity in Hell
“But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.” Revelation 21:8
“The second death”
[which is the second death] The second death is the lake of fire, or the second separation from God in hell (Rev_2:11; Rev_20:14; Rev_21:8).
Of Revelation 21:8, Adam Clarke writes the following:
Revelation 21:8
But the fearful – Δειλοις· Those who, for fear of losing life or their property, either refused to receive the Christian religion, though convinced of its truth and importance; or, having received it, in times of persecution fell away, not being willing to risk their lives.
And unbelieving – Those who resist against full evidence. And sinners, και ἁμαρτωλοις, is added here by about thirty excellent MSS., and is found in the Syrian, Arabic, some of the Slavonic, and in Andreas and Arethas. On this evidence Griesbach has admitted it into the text.
The abominable – Εβδελυγμενοις· Those who are polluted with unnatural lust. (sodomites, lesbians Romans 1)
And murderers – Φονευσι· Those who take away the life of man for any cause but the murder of another, and those who hate a brother in their heart (.
And whoremongers – Πορνοις· Adulterers, fornicators, whores, prostitutes, and rakes of every description.
Sorcerers – Φαρμακοις· Persons who, by drugs, philtres, fumigations, etc., pretend to produce supernatural effects, chiefly by spiritual agency.
Idolaters – Ειδωλολατραις· Those who offer any kind of worship or religious reverence to any thing but God. All image worshippers are idolaters in every sense of the word.
And all liars – Και πασι τοις ψευδεσι· Every one who speaks contrary to the truth when he knows the truth, and even he who speaks the truth with the intention to deceive; i.e., to persuade a person that a thing is different from what it really is, by telling only a part of the truth, or suppressing some circumstance which would have led the hearer to a different end to the true conclusion. All these shall have their portion, το μερος, their share, what belongs to them, their right, in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone. This is the second death, from which there is no recovery.
“21:8 But not all are overcomers. Some are cowardly, afraid to confess Christ; unbelieving, unwilling to trust the sinner’s Savior; sinners, all those who remain in their sins, whether guilty of the gross iniquities listed here or not; abominable, given over to disgusting immorality; murderers, malicious and savage killers; sexually immoral, practicing fornication and other forms of sexual sins; sorcerers, those who traffic with evil spirits; idolaters, insulting God by worshiping images; and all liars, compulsive deceivers. These will be assigned to the lake of fire as their final destiny.” Believer’s Bible Commentary
“And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. … 14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. 15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.” Revelation 20:10, 14-15
One source notes the following:
“Brimstone and fire” refers to the fiery imagery of divine judgment and eternal punishment found in the Bible. It symbolizes God’s wrath, often describing the fate of sinners in hell, and is a phrase used in religious sermons and literature. “Brimstone,” an old word for sulfur, is a key component of this imagery, evoking a smell and heat associated with inescapable, fiery destruction.
Biblical origins
Old Testament:
The phrase originates in the King James translation of the Old Testament, used to describe God’s destruction of enemies. A key example is the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah.
New Testament:
The imagery is used to describe eternal damnation, a common theme in both the Old and New Testaments. In the book of Revelation, for example, it describes those who worship the beast being tormented in a lake of fire and brimstone.
Etymology:
The phrase is a calque of the Biblical Hebrew and Ancient Greek words for “sulfur and fire”.
Geological evidence:
Archaeological and geological evidence of sulfur deposits and charred formations in areas like the Dead Sea region have been noted as consistent with biblical descriptions of fire and sulfur-related events.”
“But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.” Matthew 8:12
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The Purpose of Elders in Christ’s Body [podcast]
There is no more important work transpiring in the earth today than the work of the Gospel of Jesus Christ (Matthew 9:35-38; 28:18-20; Ephesians 4:11-15; 1 Peter 5:1-6, etc.).
“Now the God of peace, that brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, that great shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the everlasting covenant, 21 Make you perfect in every good work to do his will, working in you that which is wellpleasing in his sight, through Jesus Christ; to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.” Hebrews 13:20-21
In short, the authentic under-shepherd ordained of Jesus Himself (John 15:16), will give up his life in this fleeting world for the sheep of Christ – just as the Great Shepherd of the sheep did on the cross. Such a divinely called-out man, will teach only God’s pure Word and watch for the souls of the LORD’s people (Hebrews 13:7, 17). He will take up the cross – live the crucified life – and therefore ministry will not be about them but rather about Jesus and His beloved sheep for whom He shed His blood and is soon returning (Philippians 3:17-21).
Also in Hebrews 13 …. The true elder of Christ will, according to Hebrews 13, do two things:
- Speak the pure Word of God to you and get you into it:
“Remember them which have the rule over you, who have spoken unto you the word of God: whose faith follow, considering the end of their conversation (their way of life).” Hebrews 13:7
2. Will in the fear of God pray for and “watch for your soul.”
“Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.” Hebrews 13:17
In review, just WHAT are the earmark fruits of true under-shepherds as opposed to the many wolves among us?
- True under shepherds relentlessly teach God’s Word – “who have spoken unto you the word of God.” (Hebrews 13:7)
- They are there for you! – “they watch for your souls.” (Hebrews 13:7)
IF they aren’t preaching God’s pure Word to you, fearing God, not you…. and watching for your eternal soul, they are wolves in sheep’s clothing. Repent and run to Jesus beloved.
Let me add that if they are using a fake “bible” instead of the King James Bible, that should be a clue to the darkness they walk in (Matthew 7:16, 20).
Elders are ordained of God and yet never to take His place nor to negate our own personal responsibility to seek God daily for ourselves. Yet, we do not need a preacher. Why? – because we each have a Bible. Read it. We don’t need a preacher to tell us what the Bible says! Read it for yourself, learning of the LORD yourself. Today is your day to take personal responsibility to seek God for yourself! Stop depending on a preacher or preachers. Devour God’s Word daily. Jesus taught personal responsibility and the essential nature of it when He said “Take heed to yourselves” (Luke 21:34-36) …… Paul instructed Timothy to “Study” the Word (2 Timothy 2:15).
Today we have all around us church-goers who are not possessed with a heart after God, do not diligently study and read and live out Christ’s Word. This lukewarm, world-loving fruit clearly reveals the prophesied priesthood of wolves (1 Chronicles 16:11; Psalms 27:4, 8; Matthew 24:11; Acts 13:22; 2 Timothy 3:13; 1 John 4:1, etc.). Until a pastor has provoke you to get into God’s Word for yourself, to seeking His holy face daily in prayer, he has failed. If has has diligently, biblically sought to do these essentials, and people have refused God’s Word, refused to seek His holy face continually, the blood is off of his hands (Ezekiel 3:18-20).
“When I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; and thou givest him not warning, nor speakest to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life; the same wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand. 19 Yet if thou warn the wicked, and he turn not from his wickedness, nor from his wicked way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul. 20 Again, When a righteous man doth turn from his righteousness, and commit iniquity, and I lay a stumblingblock before him, he shall die: because thou hast not given him warning, he shall die in his sin, and his righteousness which he hath done shall not be remembered; but his blood will I require at thine hand.” Ezekiel 3:18-20
When you check the fruit of a fellowship, check, discern if the individual saints are vibrant in Christ, diligently seeking His holy face, in His Word, living a life of prayer, denying self, taking up the cross daily, and following Jesus. This sounds like what we see of the earliest saints in the book of Acts, right? Boom. Remember how Peter preached and 8,000 were saved and how the Berean believers put Paul’s teaching to the Scriptural test? (Acts 2-4; 17:10-11, etc.).
Sadly, usually you see a bunch of people who are proud to be a member of a church with none of the biblical fruit list above.
The apostle Paul kept a close watch on those he oversaw.
“For this cause, when I could no longer forbear, I sent to know your faith, lest by some means the tempter have tempted you, and our labour be in vain.” 1 Thessalonians 3:5
Having a physical “church” building makes no mere man, no supposed elder, an official representative of Heaven. Feeding the sheep of Christ with His pure Word and equipping them “for the work of the ministry” is the mark of a true under-shepherd of Christ (John 21:15-17; Ephesians 4:11-12, etc.). Discern. Beware. Inspect the fruit. Jesus nor any of His holy apostles collected a penny to build a building called “church.” No, they went to the people – to serve them instead of having the people come to them.
Let’s test that…. How many people do you personally know who are good church members, Sunday morning church attenders, and ALSO true, daily disciples whom God is using everywhere they go? Think about that…. How many true disciples of Jesus do you know who are involved in a Sunday morning church program? If you personally know even one true disciple, that’s a miracle and in spite of his attendance at the Sunday morning circus called “church.”
Unlike Christ’s apostle Paul, most in leadership today foster in their prey a dependence on THEM and their church business instead of prayerfully, biblically exhorting people to depend on Jesus (1 Corinthians 1:29-2:5).
Like Christ’s apostle Paul, the true elder labors relentlessly to see you grounded in Christ – not in him or his ministry or church, but in CHRIST! Listen closely:
“As ye have therefore received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk ye in him: 7 Rooted and built up in him, and stablished in the faith, as ye have been taught, abounding therein with thanksgiving.” Colossians 2:6-7
It simply doesn’t matter what else he’s doing, if any minister is not prayerfully, biblically, perpetually rooting and grounding you in Christ, he’s a fraud. Run.
Like Jesus and His holy apostle Paul, part of grounding you ever more deeper in Christ, is warning you to “beware” of the “many false prophets.” (Matthew 24:11)
“Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. 9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. 10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:” Colossians 2:8-10
SO, he’s not exhorting and admonishing you to seek and know the LORD in an ever deepening fashion? He’s not equipping, maturing you “for the work of the ministry” and yet you still consider him one of the LORD’s under-shepherds? He’s not getting YOU into the Word (2 Timothy 2:15) for yourself? That’s a false leader who is entertaining the goats instead of feeding and equipping the saints! Run! (See Ephesians 4:11-15; 1 Peter 5:1-6, etc.)
False leaders divert the attention, the heart affections, the resources, and the energy of God’s people away from Christ and simple obedience to His Great Commission mandate. YOU are personally responsible! Waste is rampant! If you support, “bid God speed” (2 John 7-11) to a false leader, false ministry, then you will perish with them!
The divine purpose for elders is not to dominate nor entertain the LORD’s sheep but rather to help their joy in Christ! Get to know this verse saints:
“Not for that we have dominion over your faith, but are helpers of your joy: for by faith ye stand.” 2 Corinthians 1:24
There is the citing of elders in the Word and their divine purpose – to humbly serve God by helping His sheep grow in the knowledge and grace of Christ (Ephesians 4:11-15; 1 Peter 5:1-6).
Christ’s apostle Paul desired the “perfection” (maturity in Christ) of the people of God (Ephesians 4:11-15).
“For we are glad, when we are weak, and ye are strong: and this also we wish, even your perfection.” 2 Corinthians 13:9
Like Apollos, Elders among God’s people must remain teachable to God’s Word and simply and only teach and preach his word (Proverbs 9:9; Acts 18:26). Elders true to the LORD act on his behalf and never out of a personal agenda for self gain (2 Corinthians 3:5; 4:5, etc.). They live the crucified life (Galatians 2:20).
We are to humble ourselves like Apollos did and learn the way of our God more perfectly from each other, via God’s Word – as Apollos learned it more fully from Aquila and Priscilla (Acts 18:24-28).
Beloved Apollos was a very effective, anointed communicator of God’s Word and yet, was in need of maturing, of being perfected. So, God sent to him an elder and his wife, Aquila and Priscilla. Apollos humbly received the LORD’s elders and His grace to grow in Christ:
“And a certain Jew named Apollos, born at Alexandria, an eloquent man, and mighty in the scriptures, came to Ephesus. 25 This man was instructed in the way of the Lord; and being fervent in the spirit, he spake and taught diligently the things of the Lord, knowing only the baptism of John. 26 And he began to speak boldly in the synagogue: whom when Aquila and Priscilla had heard, they took him unto them, and expounded unto him the way of God more perfectly.” Acts 18:24-26
The vast majority of “churches” that meet in “church buildings” are simply and merely conducting “church services” where they entertain their prey. They are not equipping the saints for the work of the ministry and therefore discerned as being counterfeit (Ephesians 4:11-13). If they were, there would be salty disciples in their midst who go forth to minister Christ’s kingdom blessings wherever they go. Not even a trace of this transpiring in the apostate modern church world. Run. Run. Run.
The Purpose of Kingdom Elders:
“And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; 12 For the perfecting (equipping, maturing) of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:” Ephesians 4:11-12
Philip Lye writes: “Paul says in Ephesians 4, that he gave some to be apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors and teachers. He expressly says these people are given to mature the saints, to equip them for their ministry and growth in Jesus Christ. Jesus tells us in Matthew 24 that many false prophets and messiahs will arise deceiving many. They are simply functions that God has given and not titles which the proud use to strut about like a peacock. Most of these people that I have met (and I have seen a lot of famous ones) are false, proud and arrogant and not servants of the the Lord Jesus Christ. I have seen humble genuine ones who move mightily in truth, calling people to repentance and right relationship with Jesus and a demonstration of genuine miracles and wonders. They are to be genuine servants to God’s people.”
VIEW this following verse from Solomon’s day in light of our calling and work till Christ returns:
“Now all the work of Solomon was prepared unto the day of the foundation of the house of the LORD, and until it was finished. So the house of the LORD was perfected.” 2 Chronicles 8:16
Let’s read a larger portion of this important passage in Ephesians 4. God fearing under-shepherds must prayerfully labor for and be intent upon seeing God’s people grow in the grace of Christ to the full stature of maturity He has ordained!
“And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; 12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: 13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ: 14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive; 15 But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:” Ephesians 4:11-15
The Error of Using Titles in the Modern Church World
God sovereignly and exclusively ordained MEN to feed, lead, and equip His saints (Ephesians 4:8-11). Women are called to and seen doing many ministry functions in the New Testament but never as a leader in a position specifically designated in Scripture for men.
Repent. The American “church” is a catastrophe of spineless moral-coward Ahabs who’ve allowed, suffered women to lead, and the fall out is incalculable (Revelation 2:20-24).
GOD’s men must never allow women to lead where they (men) are called to lead (1 Timothy 2:12; 3:2; Revelation 2:20-24).
To put yourself under the ministry of a woman who is acting as an elder among God’s people, is to defy Christ, and to agree with Christ’s arch enemy and his Jezebels and to bring severe destruction on the people of God (1 Timothy 2:12; 3:2; Revelation 2:20-24).
JUST because a woman can run her mouth and even genuinely have a gift of the Spirit DOES NOT mean she’s an elder in the body of Christ – which is divinely reserved non-negotiably for men, male elders (1 Timothy 2:11-12; 3:2). | Beware of Scripture-Twisting Jezebels
We must humbly confess before our LORD and God that we have nothing and are nothing without Him!
“I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.” John 15:5
God can use us in spite of having a seminary or Bible college background…. If we will truly denounce it, lay it all down, and truly submit to Him – just like Paul did (Philippians 3). Otherwise we will join the epidemic of false prophets who build their own kingdoms in this fleeting life and spend eternity in hell (2 Peter 2:1-3). Paul counted his “higher education” as “dung” to know and serve Christ (Philippians 3).
BIBLICALLY SPEAKING, BY DEFINITION, ELDERS ARE NOT SEMINARIANS (UNLESS THEY’VE DENOUNCED SUCH) BUT RATHER PROVEN MEN OF GOD WHO HAVE WALKED WITH CHRIST FOR SOME TIME AND ARE SEASONED IN DOCTRINE AND GODLY CHARACTER AND ABLE TO HELP ASSIST OTHER BELIEVERS GROW IN GRACE (Philippians 3).
In part, we can be transformed in our thinking/perspective of what leaders are seen to be in the apostate modern church vs the biblical definition of an elder which is a humble servant with sound doctrine and a godly life (1 Timothy 3; 2 Timothy 3:10; Titus 1-2, etc.).
Christ’s kingdom ordination is not like the ordinations of many denominations….. To ordain seems to mean to recognize the work of GOD in a man’s life and to set him forth into ministry as by the leading of the Spirit of God.
“Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.” John 15:16
ORDAIN
G5087
τίθημι
tithēmi
tith’-ay-mee
A prolonged form of a primary word θέω theō (which is used only as an alternate in certain tenses); to place (in the widest application, literally and figuratively; properly in a passive or horizontal posture, and thus different from G2476, which properly denotes an upright and active position, while G2749 is properly reflexive and utterly prostrate): – + advise, appoint, bow, commit, conceive, give, X kneel down, lay (aside, down, up), make, ordain, purpose, put, set (forth), settle, sink down.
Total KJV occurrences: 96
“Now there were in the church that was at Antioch certain prophets and teachers; as Barnabas, and Simeon that was called Niger, and Lucius of Cyrene, and Manaen, which had been brought up with Herod the tetrarch, and Saul. 2 As they ministered to the Lord, and fasted, the Holy Ghost said, Separate me Barnabas and Saul for the work whereunto I have called them. 3 And when they had fasted and prayed, and laid their hands on them, they sent them away.” Acts 13:1-3
Denominations of mere men set their elders forth to do THEIR bidding, to perpetuate their own cause and existence, to build their false church businesse$. God fearing assemblies of the saints simply recognize Christ’s work in a man and prayerfully send him forth to do GOD’s work. They worship and exalt Christ whole heartedly!
MINISTRY is about feeding sheep, not entertaining goats (John 21:15-17). So, when you see a “minister” entertaining, you know he himself is a goat (1 Corinthians 1:29-2:5).
What True Elders Teach
“For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord; and ourselves your servants for Jesus’ sake.” 2 Corinthians 4:5
THERE is nothing good in us except Christ. We are not featured but JESUS is. “We preach CHRIST crucified” (1 Cor 1:23). All our righteousnesses are as filthy rags and HE is the One and only righteous Redeemer whom we communicate to others (1 Cor 9:16; Rom 7:18 etc.).
Jesus’ true disciples are crucified vessels who preach with His authority, unlike the lame leaders we have today (Matthew 7:28-29). True Gospel preaching rocks the world of those who hear it – it never coddles people in their sin. That’s the work of wolves! Beware!
Godly Elders Teach God’s People to Discern
“And they shall teach my people the difference between the holy and profane, and cause them to discern between the unclean and the clean.” Ezekiel 44:23
Why don’t some leaders teach discernment?
“Anyone that profits off of you being blind, will never teach you or inspire you to see.” unknown
Any man in leadership who doesn’t warn you of false prophets as did Christ and His apostles, is a wolf who does not want you to see who he truly is.
God’s people are to continue to learn to discern – to test, to weigh all things against Holy Scripture. Ungodly elders have the “I said it so it’s true” notion. Or the “We’ve always taught that” or “That’s what we believe” philosophy. Not. What saith the Scriptures is what every true follower of Jesus asks, as he searches God’s Word to ascertain truth. Every student of Christ should become extremely familiar with Acts 17:10-11.
QUESTION RECEIVED:
“I am curious as to how one man is considered the other’s elder? Do they attend the same church gathering thus, he is a church elder or is it through willful submission of the younger as an understudy or simply due to the fact that one man is older?”
REPLY:
Great question brother. Elder, biblically seems to mean older and more seasoned in God’s Word, having walked with the LORD longer. Two views come to mind: 1. The organic body of Christ, the kingdom relationships we have, where there appear men in our lives who are seasoned and there’s an automatic elder/young relationship (that’s how it is here)… and 2. Where a person attends a church group and they have their elder in a more organized fashion as you mentioned…. that help?
Nothing brings definition to this like God’s Word as you know…. and notice how it begins with “The elders which are AMONG you”….
“The elders which are among you I exhort, who am also an elder, and a witness of the sufferings of Christ, and also a partaker of the glory that shall be revealed: 2 Feed the flock of God which is among you, taking the oversight thereof, not by constraint, but willingly; not for filthy lucre, but of a ready mind; 3 Neither as being lords over God’s heritage, but being ensamples to the flock. 4 And when the chief Shepherd shall appear, ye shall receive a crown of glory that fadeth not away. 5 Likewise, ye younger, submit yourselves unto the elder. Yea, all of you be subject one to another, and be clothed with humility: for God resisteth the proud, and giveth grace to the humble. 6 Humble yourselves therefore under the mighty hand of God, that he may exalt you in due time:” 1 Peter 5:1-6
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