Is Hell Really Eternal Conscious Torment? [podcast]

Correction: To different extents, many of the new versions remove parts of Mark 9:42-50. We do know that ALL of these removed words appear in the Majority (95+%) manuscripts and the King James Bible. Upon comparing the whole passage (vv. 42-50) we find that the new versions, to different degrees, chose to remove certain verses because, being wise in their own conceit, they took it upon their sinful selves to decide that Jesus should not have repeated Himself to make such a strong point of warning people of the severity of sin.

“For we are not as many, which corrupt the word of God: but as of sincerity, but as of God, in the sight of God speak we in Christ.” 2 Corinthians 2:17

Is hell conscious torment forever? Yes or no?

MAY God bless us to preach hell so hot that sinners can feel the flames and smell the smoke!!!!  

Of those who take the mark of the beast and go to hell:

“The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: 11 And the smoke of their TORMENT ascendeth up FOR EVER AND EVER (hello!): and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.” Revelation 14:10-11

According to Revelation 14:10-11, How could someone be receiving “TORMENT … FOR EVER AND EVER” and conscious torment not be forever, eternally? Cults are always looking for a way to diminish from the just, eternal judgment of God upon the wicked for rejecting Christ.

Inherent in the word “torment” is conscious suffering. How could anything or anyone who is dead be tormented? They simply couldn’t. Only a conscious, living being can be tormented.

Imagine spending eternity suffering in hell, fully conscious and full of remorse at the utter stupidity you chose in your earthly life – where you put self first instead of the Savior. Hell is forever. irrevocable. inescapable.

In light of the details we receive from to Luke 16:19-31, it would seem that to say that TORMENT for the wicked would not be eternal and conscious, would be to say that COMFORT for the righteous would not be eternal. Nonsense.

“And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am TORMENTED IN THIS FLAME. 25 But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now HE IS COMFORTED, and THOU ART TORMENTED. 26 And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.” Luke 16:24-26 

Smoke in the nostrils of the Almighty, represents the justice He will behold – the just judgment and justice upon all who rejected His only begotten Son and took the mark of his arch enemy. Their torment will be forever and is the just retribution for their rejection of the only sacrifice for their sins – Jesus Christ’s blood.

Temptations to Sin – The Promise of Eternal, Conscious Torment in Hell for all who Die in Sin

Jesus taught that conscious torment in hell is the judgment of a holy God upon all who die in sin and it will be unending – eternal.

Mark 9

Mar 9:42  And whosoever shall offend one of these little ones that believe in me, it is better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he were cast into the sea. 
Mar 9:43  And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into THE FIRE THAT NEVER SHALL BE QUENCHED: 
Mar 9:44  Where their WORM (consciousness) DIETH NOT, and THE FIRE IS NOT QUENCHED. 
Mar 9:45  And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, into THE FIRE THAT NEVER SHALL BE QUENCHED: 
Mar 9:46  Where their WORM DIETH NOT, and the fire is not quenched. 
Mar 9:47  And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire: 
Mar 9:48  Where their WORM DIETH NOT, and the fire is not quenched. 
Mar 9:49  For every one shall be salted (preserved for eternally conscious, torment) with fire, and every sacrifice shall be salted with salt

Details about hell revealed in God’s Word, the Bible:

• A place of complete consciousness (all feelings)…Lk. 16:25
• Torment with fire and brimstone……………….……Rev. 14:10
• Weeping and gnashing of teeth……..………….…..Matt. 8:12
• A place of eternal remorse (devastating regret)…Luke 16:25
• A place of torments……………………………………..…Luke 16:23
• No rest day or night forever (eternal misery)…….Rev. 14:11
• A furnace of fire with wailing……………………….….Matt. 13:42
• A place of everlasting burnings……………………..Isaiah 33:14
• Hell will be cast into the lake (ocean) of fire…….Rev. 20:15
• Unquenchable fire (ferocious flames)……….………Mark 9:45
• Outer darkness (blinding loneliness)…………..….Matt. 22:13
• No 2nd chance to escape (utter hopelessness)…Luke 16:26
• A place of sorrows (seething remorse and despair)…Ps. 18:5
• A place of everlasting destruction…………….……..2 Thess. 1:9

More on Mark 9:42-50 from Will Kinney

Mark 9:44-49 KJB – WHERE THEIR WORM DIETH NOT, AND THE FIRE IS NOT QUENCHED.

45 And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, INTO THE FIRE THAT NEVER SHALL BE QUENCHED.

46 WHERE THEIR WORM DIETH NOT, AND THE FIRE IS NOT QUENCHED.

47 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell FIRE:

48 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.

49 For every one shall be salted with fire, AND EVERY SACRIFICE SHALL BE SALTED WITH SALT.

All the capitalized words in these verses are found in the Reformation Bibles in all languages, but they are omitted in the Vatican supervised text versions like the modern Catholic versions (St. Joseph New American Bible 1970 and the New Jerusalem Bible 1985) the Jehovah Witness NWT, and the ESV, NASB, NIV, NET, etc.

The ever changing NASBs from 1960 to 1995 included verses 44 and 46 (as does the Holman Standard) but in the NASB 2020 edition they omitted them).

The main manuscripts that omit all these words are the usual Sinaiticus and Vaticanus, but they are found in the Majority of all remaining manuscripts including Alexandrinus, the Diatessaron (140 A.D.), many Old Latin copies, and the ancient versions of the Syriac Peshitta, Gothic, Ethiopic and Slavonic versions.

Agreeing with the readings found in the King James Bible are the Latin Vulgate 405 A.D., the West Saxon Gospels 990 A.D., the Wycliffe Bible 1395, Tyndale 1524, Coverdale 1535, the Great Bible 1540, Matthew’s Bible 1549, the Bishops’ Bible 1568, the Geneva Bible 1587, the Douay-Rheims 1582, the Beza N.T. 1599, the Mace N.T. 1729, Whiston’s N.T. 1745, Worsley N.T. 1770, Julia Smith Translation 1855, Darby 1890, Young’s 1898, the World English Bible, the NKJV 1982, the Tomson N.T. 2002, J.P. Green’s literal translation, the Wilbur Pickering N.T., The Resurrection Life N.T. 2005, The Complete Apostle’s Bible 2005, the Conservative Version 2005, The Mebust Bible 2007, The Voice 2012, the International Standard Version 2014, the Modern English Version 2014, The Modern Literal Version 2020, The Passion Translation 2020, The Jubilee Bible 2020 and A Faithful Version 2021.

The Catholic Connection

The older Catholic bibles like the Douay-Rheims 1582 and the Douay 1950 both contain all these words, but the more modern Catholic versions (St. Joseph NAB 1970 and New Jerusalem 1985) omit them.

So once again it is a choice between the Reformation Bible text – which is also followed by many modern translations, or the Vatican supervised, constantly changing Critical (condition) text.

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