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Beware of the self-congratulatory grandstanding of those who establish their identity on what they are against. They are very proud, self-righteous, full of pride and arrogance, and blind. …Soon as you get off that bash-happy bandwagon, you will be the outsider and also under their cult-like attack.

Some base their bashing on historical knowledge. WHY do some give such strength to the catholic church and other devils throughout history? Is this not idolatry? If these people were truly righteous by Christ instead of self-righteous, perhaps they wouldn’t be giving such strength to Tertullian and the phony popes of Rome. It’s like they worship these devils by making THEIR word and evil doings final authority instead of the Word of God (John 8:47).

NEARLY everything in this fallen world is pagan and it doesn’t take a spiritual giant to see this simply truth. So, this season, WHY NOT posture ourselves to simply shine the light into the darkness of men’s hearts and ask God to use us to do what He sent us to do – to win someone to Jesus!? Perspective. Why waste time protesting instead of preaching the Gospel?

From David Taylor:
“Mighty ancient angels, Wise wealthy Pagan magicians, Hebrew Shepherds poor, animals, parents and relatives, were all drawn to this Divinely orchestrated event – the birth of the Messiah into flesh. And even today His truth still sounds, ‘If I shall be lifted up I shall draw all men unto me’. Rejoice!! Our Savior and King is alive forevermore!! Serve Him. Are you and yours ready for His imminent return and judgment? May God continue to bless as you serve the Lord Jesus. In Christ’s love,” David

SOME OF THESE HARANGUING “BULLIES” ARE SO AGAINST DECEMBER 25TH THAT IF SOMEONE GOT UP ON THE MORNING AND READ ABOUT JESUS BEING BORN INTO THE EARTH, THEY’D STONE THAT PERSON! THESE PEOPLE ARE SCARY – MUCH MORE SCARY THAN THOSE WHO SIMPLY DO NOT REALIZE ALL THE PAGANISM SURROUNDING CHRISTMAS. YET, IF THEY ARE INNOCENT OF IT AND THEIR CONSCIENCE IS NOT DEFILED BY IT, IT’S NOT SIN. READ 1 CORINTHIANS 8 AND ROMANS 14 BEFORE YOU DRAW CONCLUSION ON THIS AND GET ON GOD’S PAGE!

The self-righteous christmas bashing zealots are quick and forceful in pointing out “that’s pagan!” …. but Romans 14 and 1 Corinthians 8 ARE BIBLE! Have you studied and do you understand them? OR are you too busy studying Satan’s paganism?

PERSONALLY, I AM NOT GOING TO HAND THE VICTORY TO SATAN/PAGANISM BY NOT CELEBRATING JESUS AND HIS BIRTH/1ST COMING DURING THIS OR ANY SEASON …. YOU KEEP PROTESTING EVERYTHING IF YOU WANT…. I WILL NOT JOIN YOU…. JESUS CAME TO PREACH HIS HOLY LIGHT INTO THE DARKNESS OF THIS FALLEN WORLD AND NOT TO WASTE A SECOND CURSING THE DARKNESS WHICH IS FUTILITY. DID HE NOT KNOW ALL THE PAGAN DARKNESS BEFORE HE CAME? GO READ WHAT JESUS SPOKE IN HIS MINISTRY? WAS HE FOCUSED ON THE DARKNESS OR BRINGING THE LIGHT OF TRUTH? DID HE SAY TO HIS CHILDREN, “YE ARE THE DARKNESS OF THE WORLD” OR “YE ARE THE LIGHT OF THE WORLD”? (MATTHEW 5:13-16)

SO BORN AGAIN BELIEVERS ARE SUPPOSED TO STOP WORSHIPING JESUS CHRIST BECAUSE OF WHAT SATAN AND HIS PAWNS HAVE DONE???!!!! Man, some of you false watchmen need to repent and when you truly do, God will give you a kingdom clue! …

“Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.” Matthew 5:16

Did Jesus say: “Let your light so shine before men EXCEPT DURING THE MONTH OF DECEMBER, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven”??? Yes or no please.

Some people will scorn you for not jumping on their condemnation bandwagon.

So, those who insist upon calling damnation down upon the immature Christians and the heathen during this season, are disqualified from being used of the LORD. God cannot used them to win anyone to Christ because they’ve self-righteously taken up an offense, a cause against obvious paganism and congratulate themselves for doing so in many cases. They have not learned a simple truth, captured profoundly in James 1:20: “For the wrath of man worketh not the righteousness of God.” (James 1:20) God never instructed any of His servants to go out and hate sinners. Such would be completely unbefitting to rescued sinners now saved by the mercy of Christ alone (Titus 3:3-7). When Moses did so, when he chose to have unwarranted anger against God’s sinning people, the LORD pulled his rug and Moses was then disqualified to lead God’s people into the promised land, right? The Bible says that “God is angry with the wicked every day.” (Psalms 7:11) The fact that GOD is angry because HE alone is “Holy, holy, holy,” gives no mere man license to walk around all mad and protesting paganism and sin. To those who insist on being unduly angry, Jesus says “Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of.” Then Jesus informs us “For the Son of man is not come to destroy men’s lives, but to save them.”(Luke 9:55-56)

This unrighteous, undue reveals a total lack of the cross in such people. When the cross is truly at the center of our lives, self is crucified and the life of Christ lived out. Are you God or are you a mere man? These fail to recognize they they are mere men and that the LORD alone is “Holy, holy, holy.” (Isaiah 6:3; Revelation 4:8) Jesus is God and He didn’t act this way toward us “WHILE WE were yet sinners.” (Romans 5:6-8) No, the Son of God didn’t protest our evil but instead He left the glory of His Father and came and died for us. We were already in sin. He came to rescued, to save us (Luke 19:10; 1 Timothy 1:15).

WHO do we think we are?! You are no hero for seeing the very very obvious sin and paganism in this fallen world. But what did the ONE you claim to follow do about it? He died to conquer it. He didn’t walk around all upset and mad at the rampant sin in this fallen world…. He conquered it through death (Hebrews 2:14-15) and calls us to do the same – re-enacting His death, burial and resurrection in our daily lives – so that He can reign in and through us (2 Corinthians 1:9; 4:10-12, etc.).

He’s coming soon. Who are you personally leading to Him? Notice that it’s “He that WINNETH souls (who?) is wise” in God’s eyes and not those who yell at, unduly condemn, and harshly speak to them…. but the wisdom of God is proven to be in those who actually “WINNETH souls.” (Proverbs 11:30)

Beware of those who Beat Up God’s People

Perhaps Jesus would say to us today …”Shut your mouth, get on your face, lay down your life in this world, die the death, and go win someone to Me!”

Saints, we are not heroes or highly enlightened to recognize the evil around us – 24/7/365!

Again, in case some seek to say that I am justifying my own participation in Christmas, be informed that I do not participate….. yet worship Him, thank God for the gift of the eternal Word, and choose to ask Jesus to shine His light in and through His vessels during this and all seasons of the year (Matthew 5:16). Did Jesus or His holy apostles walk around all mad, with no divine joy, because of the myriad of paganism that was all around them as they walked the earth? Yes or not please. The Bible speaks of the great joy Jesus had (Psalms 45:7; John 15:11; Hebrews 1:9). Protesting paganism is going to lead not one lost soul to Jesus and is actually preventing them from being saved through the lives of those who are too immature to simply winsomely minister to them.

This topic brings out the legalism that still resides in many among us and their lack of being established in the grace of God (Hebrews 13:9). …. Is this an essential? Will those Christians who put up a tree be damned for such? No. That means this is a NON-essential. Putting up a tree, especially having no intention to worship that inanimate object, is on not one of the many lists of sins in the New Testament. Please study Romans 14 and 1 Corinthians 8.

SOME are saying that trees are evil because during this season people decorate them. So, they judge those who have Christmas trees today. Yet, do you know anyone who worships that tree? I don’t. No, I don’t have a Christmas tree. Just attempting to make a point. ……. To attempt to demonize ANY part of God’s creation – what He purposely created for His own purposes – is treading on thin ice. the MIS-use of anything by mere humans in no way negates the purpose for which God created the thing being misused. The misuse of any part of the LORD’s creation does not make that something evil. Only Satan, fallen angels, and the hearts of men can be evil because they are created being with choice, free moral agency. Inanimate objects cannot possibly be evil. They have no breath of life in them and therefore have no free will to exercise themselves for or against the Maker of all things. …. WE must truly submit ourselves afresh to the LORD, crying out to Him for His understanding and wisdom and to establish our hearts with His grace (Hebrews 13:9). See 1 Corinthians 8.

Jeremiah 10

Jesus and His apostles came around LONG after trees were used to perform idol worship (Jeremiah 10)…. Did Christ or even one of His holy apostles ever mention, much less call out this sin? chapters and verses please

What’s God getting at in Jeremiah 10? Notice that “the way of the heathen” He is addressing involves WORSHIPPING the inanimate object of a tree, not the tree itself. The LORD created trees and had Noah use them to build the ark and allow them to be used to crucify the LORD of glory. The LORD makes clear in this passage that trees have no free will and therefore cannot sin. Only man was created in His holy image and has the ability to worship Him or rebel against Him.
 
“Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.
Jer 10:3 For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.
Jer 10:4 They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.
Jer 10:5 They are upright as the palm tree, but speak not: they must needs be borne, because they cannot go. Be not afraid of them; for they cannot do evil, neither also is it in them to do good.
Jer 10:6 Forasmuch as there is none like unto thee, O LORD; thou art great, and thy name is great in might.
Jer 10:7 Who would not fear thee, O King of nations? for to thee doth it appertain: forasmuch as among all the wise men of the nations, and in all their kingdoms, there is none like unto thee.
Jer 10:8 But they are altogether brutish and foolish: the stock is a doctrine of vanities.” Jeremiah 10:2-8

FOR THE RECORD, to further denigrate the modern pharisees, this believer does not celebrate Christmas, does not have a tree or any associated decor. Yet will those who do be damned for it? This disciples DOES, with no apology ever to any mere man or devil, celebrate Jesus 24/7/365 …. and is defending the God-given liberties for each and every Christian in the way they worship, as long as it’s not an essential – which this is not. There is no hint or attempt to justify paganism and yet, if a person’s heart is not deliberately worshiping another god (false god), they’re not committing a soul damning sin. Read Romans 14 and 1 Corinthians 8.

“These are wells without water, clouds that are carried with a tempest; to whom the mist of darkness is reserved for ever. For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error. While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage. For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them. But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.” – 2 Peter 2:7-22

NO AMOUNT OF ATTENTION PAID AND SPENT ON DIGGING UP THE EVIL OF PAGANISM NEGATES WHAT THE BIBLE TELLS US ABOUT CHRIST AND HIS FIRST COMING BY WAY OF THE HOLY SPIRIT AND A VIRGIN.

Think for a minute about the focus of those who insist on digging up the paganism in this season – something most Christians do not participate with in the first place. Where did they get that from? They got this from the SDA (Seventh Day Adventist) and JW (Jehovah Witness) cults. Those people are not saved.
So, their focus is not on Christ but rather they relish in paganism. In fact, they do not ever mention or acknowledge the Son of God who was born of the Holy Spirit through a virgin in fulfillment of prophecy (Isaiah 7:14; Micah 5:2, etc.). These people shun Scripture which clearly, irrefutably reveals that the shepherds, angels of God, wise, men, and John the Baptist all celebrated the first coming of the eternal, divine Word of God (Matthew 1-2; Luke 1-2; John 1, etc.). Seems to me that “the spirit of antichrist” (x-ing out Christ) is behind these people. After all, just stand back and watch them …. they are not preaching Christ.

Is it pure idolatry to celebrate Christmas or birthdays? Does that not depend on the person’s heart as in all these non-essential matters? So if someone participates in some sort of Christmas celebration, does that mean they are not saved? Hardly. It’s a non-essential on either one of these and that’s the point. Read Romans 14; 1 Corinthians 8.

Ryan Dudley wisely writes: “Ignorance isn’t having a , ignorance is thinking a Jesus worshipper worships a .”

Ryan Dudley makes a good point saints. No, a tree won’t send anyone to hell so please get over that legalism. Idolatry is sin and ask yourself: Have you ever met a person who worships their christmas tree? I don’t even know any that is a lost soul who does such.

Was Jesus born on December 25th? No. …. “I don’t wanna be bound to a day for Christ Jesus being born, but everyday knowing that He was born into this world to save the sinners. Amen.” Jason Cherry

Personally, I don’t celebrate or protest either actually and yet and blessed that these holiday occasions present times for people to come together and for Christ’s love to be shown.

“Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone. 24 Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel. 25 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess. 26 Thou blind Pharisee, cleanse first that which is within the cup and platter, that the outside of them may be clean also.” Matthew 23:23-26 

Here Jesus makes it clear that pharisees over emphasize minors and under emphasize majors.

THE REAL SINNERS …. ARE THE SELF-RIGHTEOUS, BLIND, PHARISEES WHO MAKE A BIG ISSUE OUT OF 1) CELEBRATING ANY PART OF CHRIST, OR 2) SINNING BY JUDGING OTHER CHRISTIANS ON SOMETHING THAT IS NON-ESSENTIAL. AFTER ALL, WHO DO YOU KNOW WHO IS BOWING DOWN AND WORSHIPING A CHRISTMAS TREE? I DIDN’T DO THAT BEFORE I WAS SAVED, DID YOU?

SO YOU have more faith in Satan and his paganism than you do JESUS CHRIST? Wow! Is that not the sin of idolatry? If you are so discerning and so holy, why not preach Christ instead of dwelling on His enemy and paganism?

Those who are “weak IN the faith” are still God’s children and we should be praying for and feeding them and helping grow in grace and not wasting our time bashing obvious paganism. Mature Christians do not participate in blatant paganism and yet, they also help those believers who are “weak in the faith” learn and grow. “Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations.” (Rom. 14:1) 

IF IN FACT this is Satan’s busiest time of year (December), why not preach Christ – the light of the world – into the midst of it? … WHILE pretending to be “holy,” the self-righteous, self-serving legalist is so weak that he fears that doing a neutral activity will cause him to backslide and so he seeks to impose restrictions on others instead of minding his own business and working out his own salvation with fear and trembling, allowing God to work in himself and others. Philippians 2:12-13; Psalms 138:8

These people who come out viciously concerning all the paganism they study about in Christmas are consumed with self-righteousness which is sin. It’s like all they can think of and worship is the paganism they dig up and focus on …. “An ungodly man diggeth up evil: and in his lips there is as a burning fire.” Prov 16:27

So you are saying someone who gets a Christmas tree is going to hell? Chapter and verses please?

The word “heretick” concerns causing unnecessary divisions. Titus 3:10 Such are to be rejected.

Let’s get a clue saints: The world was covered in darkness for 4,000 years when Jesus fulfilled prophecy and came into this world. The world – every human being – was fallen, guilty before God and separated from Him. So why did Jesus say He came? Did He come to condemn? No, the world – all of us – were ALREADY condemned!

There is no Scripture that forbids Christians from celebrating Jesus on any of the 365 days He made …. the rebuke is biblical and is to those who seek to infringe upon the God given liberty of each believer in NON-essentials. Read Romans 14 please.

Memorize this truth and it will change your life:

“For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.” John 3:17

Shine the light of truth saints! Show and communicate God’s love for those around you by ministering He who is “the light of the world” and sent you to be His “light” and “salt of the earth.” (Matthew 5:13-16)

These devilish pawns who run around pounding paganism have never led anyone to CHRIST! Do we not begin to see their darkness now? Who would want the false “jesus” they have anyway? No one. Prudes don’t know Christ who “was anointed with gladness (joy) ABOVE all his fellows.” (Hebrews 1:9) “The JOY of the LORD is your strength” to make Him known! (Nehemiah 8:10) When a person truly abides in Jesus, the Bible says they will have “the fruit of the Spirit” which is “Love, JOY, peace …” (Matthew 5:22-23) Do you have the joy of Jesus? (John 15:11; Hebrews 1:9, etc.)

“Prove (test) all things; hold fast that which is good.” (1 Thessalonians 5:21) 

SO MANY people hear some half cocked novice preacher say something and live by that message for years – never stopping to compare it to the whole counsel of God’s Word. For example, I’ve heard 10 people say lately things like: “We are not to celebrate Christ’s birth, only His death.”

Christians celebrate the birth of Jesus … His incarnation into flesh as He came to redeem us (John 1:14).

Jesus Christ is divine and had no beginning or end as such … yet He did have a day in which we were blessed beyond measure to have Him born into this world – to save us. THAT’s what Christians celebrate 24/7/365. We don’t know what exact day that was and so we magnify the Lamb of God every single day!

The Shepherds and the Angels

“And there were in the same country shepherds abiding in the field, keeping watch over their flock by night. 

9 And, lo, the angel of the Lord came upon them, and the glory of the Lord shone round about them: and they were sore afraid. 

10  And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people. 

11  For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord.” Luke 2:8-11 

Though we don’t know nor need to know the exact day Jesus was born into this earth, there was a certain day He was born into this world to redeem us as is indicated by verse 11 above – “this day.”

First let me say that we are to make no mistake that ANY and all attempts to draw attention away from Christ are coming from an antichrist who is under “the spirit of antichrist” who is Satan himself (1 John 4:1-3).

Beware of the Sinful, Savior-Denying Scrooges! Is there EVER a Time Not to Worship Jesus Christ? That is a Yes or No question please….. WHAT spirit is behind the protesting of Christ’s birth? It’s certainly not the Holy Spirit because that would contradict His own Word – where angels and His people greatly celebrated the first coming of Jesus, without which He could never have died for the sins of the world (Matthew 1-2; Luke 1-2).
Some who are self-appointed watchmen preach paganism. That is obviously their focus. They refuse to state or deal with SCRIPTURE concerning the birth of the Messiah into the earth – from Old and New Testaments. They set the very Word of God aside while claiming to be zealous for God! Wow, then they call everyone else pagan and sinful who refuse to join in. These angry, self-centered people come out of the woodworks every December to make this an issue of paganism – because THAT is their focus. Have you noticed? The true body of Christ simply takes this season and all seasons to celebrate Christ!
Want to test that Doctrine? Want to see if we are only to celebrate Jesus’ death?

Throw the first chapters of the Gospels away and the prophets and their prophetic utterances. They greatly glorified God for the long awaited Messiah. They certainly, incontrovertibly celebrated the very Word God becoming flesh to dwell among us and die for our sins (John 1:14).

One sister writes:

“No matter what time of the year it is, just thinking about the birth of Jesus is enough to put a smile on everyone’s face… His birth is as important as His death… From the throne room to the manger to the cross, Christ came so that in Him we might pass from bondage to freedom, from death to life. Thank God for His Son–His gift too wonderful for words. Most important for us is that the Son of God did come. He that made man was made man… And on that fact hangs our life. Christ came at the Father’s bidding to release us from the death-grip of sin. How He accomplished this is the story of the cross. Isn’t it that Christ first advent is a wonderful gift for us to celebrate?”

Throw the whole Old Testament away and all the prophecies of the Messiah away if you are going to vainly attempt to diminish aught from celebrating Jesus Christ’s birth. By audaciously attempting such, you are taking away from the Word of God (Revelation 22:18-19). When we read Matthew 1-2 and Luke 1-2, we see among others, the following divinely authenticated created beings celebrating the birth of the eternal Word Himself, Jesus Christ:

  • The angels
  • “a multitude of the heavenly host” (Luke 2:13)
  • The wise men
  • Mary
  • John the Baptist

So, you herald JESUS at His death but not His birth? Really? Wouldn’t a true Jesus worshiper not glorify the Son of God in every aspect of His pre-incarnate, the beginning of His incarnation (virgin birth), life, ministry, mission, teachings, death, burial, and resurrection? After all, all of it is in God’s Word, right?

It doesn’t matter exactly WHAT DAY He was born into His earth … it’s not a sin for any individual Christian to celebrate Jesus and any part of His life on any and all days. So are you going to rebuke a born again believer because he chooses to celebrate Jesus during this season? WHO even mentioned trees, ornaments or nimrod? What do they have to do with this?

It’s absurd to say it’s un-biblical to celebrate ANY part of the pre-incarnate, birth in the flesh, life, ministry, death, burial, and resurrection of the Messiah. Have you read Matthew 1-2 and Luke 1-2 to see all the biblical characters who celebrated His birth into the earth? Angels, Mary, Joseph, Elizabeth, John the Baptist, etc. Seems like you are letting paganism neglect the LORD and the myriad of Scriptures – prophetic and the fulfillment of His first coming without which He could not have died for our sins…..

“Come now let us REASON together” (Isaiah 1:18) It’s simply unreasonable to judge others for using this season to thank God for the first coming of Christ – the eternal, divine Word made flesh to die for our sins.

IT’S LIKE SOME ACT AS IF GOD TAKES A VACATIONS DURING DECEMBER. THEY’D HAVE YOU THINK JESUS DOESN’T WANT TO DRAW IN AND SAVE SOULS THAT MONTH BECAUSE THIS THING CALLED PAGANISM IF BIGGER THAN GOD IS HAHA

Let’s stop passing on things that do not pass the test of the whole testimony of God’s Word. After all, let’s forget trying to find a Scripture in all of the Bible that forbids (calls a sin) celebrating the birth of the LORD Jesus Christ, Heaven’s King.

We are simply observing the Bible’s testimony of worship Jesus Christ every hour of every day of every year and also defending the God-given liberty for each and every believer to worship as he or she wishes in non-essentials. Those who infringe upon the personal liberties of other believers are in sin. Read Romans 14 and repent.

SOME PEOPLE ARE MORE HUNG UP ON CHRISTMAS TREES THAN THEY ARE ON JESUS! WOW THEY BASH THE PAGANISM OF CHRISTMAS TREES MORE THAN THEY PREACH CHRIST. DOES SOMETHING SEEM AMISS? ARE THEY NOT ACTING AS IF A CHRISTMAS TREE IS A SOUL DAMNING SIN? ARE THEY NOT ELEVATING A CHRISTMAS TREE ABOVE CHRIST HIMSELF?

Could it be the spirit of antichrist behind those who in the guise of protesting paganism get Christians not to appreciate and celebrate the very coming of the Messiah? …. as did the shepherds, angels, wise men, John the Baptist, and others (Matt. 1-2; Luke 1-2).

Seems to me that it could only be Satan who would draw attention away from Christ and people celebrating His 1st coming. …. All in the name of paganism. These people who protest the celebration of Christ’s birth seem to know all the facts about Satan’s paganism while completely ignoring the numerous Scripture passage in Old and New Testaments about the 1st coming of the Messiah and the many who celebrated it. In fact, such people must be under the control of “the spirit of antichrist.” 1 John 4:1-3

Allen Penner writes: “1) Celebrating Christmas is NOT a pagan tradition; its a celebration of our Lord and Savior’s birth. Let us not attribute to Satan the greatest gift of God. 2) What did the three wise men do immediately upon finding Jesus in a manger? They GAVE GIFTS! There is no evil in blessing others with giving and reflecting the character of Christ/act of God’s giving the gift of Jesus. 3) The true evil, is when one disregards the true nature and meaning of Christmas…to celebrate the birth of the perfect sacrifice. It is neither “wrong” nor unbiblical to follow the pattern and do acts of love, and kindness; selflessness and giving; or to create a festive atmosphere in celebration of Christ. 4) The secondary evil…is exhibited in those who choose not to reflect the type of love God displayed in Christ; instead choosing to hate, bash, belittle, and condemn others. Does Romans 8:1 not say:  ‘There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.’?? Then how is it we rashly and harshly condemn others for celebrating Jesus’ birth in a different way? Did Paul not insist that we as believers not belittle or judge others for their different method of worship? ( 1 Cor. chapters 8 & 10) In the end folks…calling Christmas evil is akin to calling Christ evil; since it is celebrating the birth of our only source of justification. Evil does not come from a “day,” nor from a “label” of what it is called…but from the enemy through the darkened hearts of those who choose to hate, to hurt, to belittle/bash, to demean/deny Christ, and to return condemnation for the grace we received in Christ. Christmas cannot be evil, yet one’s heart…greed….pride…bitterness…envy…. quickness to condemn are. The Pharisees also were condemned by Christ Himself for their legalism, lack of the greater elements of love/mercy, grace and forgiveness. They also chose to condemn mankind based on their own presumptions of a person’s faithfulness. Let us at the very least…intentionally choose to love, forgive, edify, and encourage…but ultimately, worship God for the birth of Christ. So long as this is our intention…no amount of decoration, shiny lights, fancy wrapped gifts….can be an instrument of evil.“
Brother Brandon Elliott testifies to this following sanctifying work of Christ in His life:
“I used to get on my family even others about this. until the Lord opened my eyes about it. so much of the world wants to and tries to take God out of everything schools government and now we have Christians being seduced and ” watchman ” wanting to take Christ out of Christmas . while there is much paganism and as you mentioned the 25th isn’t the actual birthdate there is nothing wrong with celebrating the birth of Christ. we now have Christians wanting to take God out of things due to there endless continuous search of digging up evil . the enemy has cleverly and strategically distracted many to focus on non essential issues and the Gospel is neglected in that search and digging up of evil. the bible says a ungodlyman digs up evil. and its sad so many go out of their way to dig and search. and in that love waxes cold. its a painful process but needed. painful to see how wrong I was about certain things. being broken again is sometimes what it takes. for me I am in that being broken again process. I recently made a new facebook and closed the one I have had since 2010. I got caught up in these watchman sects legalism non essentials. at the time I didn’t see I was teaching but needed again to be taught. So with that being said please lift me in prayer because it is a battle daily I’m being fought against by the enemy of truth. I see now I wasn’t always living in liberty the freedom we have in our Lord Jesus Christ. I was bound by fear even compromised at times for fear of what these sects would say. but thanks be to God healing has began and freedom is winning because there is victory in repentance.”

IDOLATRY AND PERSONAL KNOWLEDGE:

IN LIGHT OF THE FOLLOWING BIBLE PASSAGE, IS A PERSON WHO SETS UP A CHRISTMAS TREE AUTOMATICALLY COMMITTING IDOLATRY? ARE THEY GOING TO HELL? THAT IS A YES OR NO QUESTION PLEASE.

1 Corinthians 8

“Now as touching things offered unto idols, we know that we all have knowledge. Knowledge puffeth up, but charity edifieth.

2 And if any man think that he knoweth any thing, he knoweth nothing yet as he ought to know.

3 But if any man love God, the same is known of him.

4 As concerning therefore the eating of those things that are offered in sacrifice unto idols, we know that an idol is nothing in the world, and that there is none other God but one.

5 For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,)

6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.

7 Howbeit there is not in every man that knowledge: for some with conscience of the idol unto this hour eat it as a thing offered unto an idol; and their conscience being weak is defiled.

8 But meat commendeth us not to God: for neither, if we eat, are we the better; neither, if we eat not, are we the worse.

9 But take heed lest by any means this liberty of yours become a stumblingblock to them that are weak.

10 For if any man see thee which hast knowledge sit at meat in the idol’s temple, shall not the conscience of him which is weak be emboldened to eat those things which are offered to idols;

11 And through thy knowledge shall the weak brother perish, for whom Christ died?

12 But when ye sin so against the brethren, and wound their weak conscience, ye sin against Christ.

13 Wherefore, if meat make my brother to offend, I will eat no flesh while the world standeth, lest I make my brother to offend.”

One saint writes: “The Lord used trees to adorn His sanctuary. If I use ornamental trees to adorn my yard, does that make me a pagan and idol worshiper? If I string lights on those trees, am I paying homage to it? You see the logic? I am a gardener, so I love plants, trees, shrubs, flowers etc. It doesn’t make me a pagan.”

“The glory of Lebanon shall come unto thee, the fir tree, the pine tree, and the box together, to beautify the place of my sanctuary; and I will make the place of my feet glorious.” Isaiah 60:13 

More from this disciple here:

“FYI brother, the early church DID celebrate Christmas on the 25th of Dec, though it was not called Christmas. Here is what I discovered…

The birth of Christ or ‘festival of Christ’s birthday.’ Byzantine Emperor Nicephorus recorded this event:

‘At Nicomedia (a city of Bithynia) when the festival of Christ’s birth-day came, and a multitude of Christians in all ages had assembled together in the temple to celebrate that birth-day. Diocletian the tyrant, having gotten an advantageous occasion whereby he might accomplish his madness and fury, sent men thither to enclose the temple, and to set it on fire round about, and so consumed them all to ashes, even twenty thousand persons.”

John Selden in his monumental work, Theanthropos (1661, pp. 33, 34), confirms Nicephorus’ report, saying that ancient Greek and Roman martyrologies date this event to Dec. 25th. It is probable that this occurred in A.D. 303-304. -Levi Madison’”

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America’s Path to Destruction According to Holy Scripture [podcast]


Sadly, so many today, who claim to be Christians, spend more time, money, and energy seeking to save the sinking ship called America (a corporation under which they are slaves) than they do obeying Christ’s Great Commission command to teach His Word and preach the Gospel to the lost (Matthew 28:18-20; Mark 16:15-20). They have chosen America over the LORD (Matthew 6:24; 12:30). So very man “church” members and yet Jesus Christ is not their “first love.” (Revelation 2:4-5) Patriotism is their idol, vainly believing they can vote away divine judgment. Most of their time, money, and energy is wasted on the futility of the temporal. Nothing will save America – no campaign, political party, voting block, or otherwise. God is judging America. It’s over as we once knew it.

God judges nations and has a timing, a frame of time, an “instant” including a beginning and ending point, where He judges nations (Jeremiah 18:7). And America is under His judgment, and it going to get much worse (Jeremiah 18).

America is under Divine Judgment

“This is exactly where we are! Things are about to wax worse and worse in this country! Jesus warned us a greater tribulation is coming (Mat 24:21). This world is becoming darker and darker. It will be a challenge to all who put their faith in Christ. Will our faith stand in the midst of severe persecution (1 Peter 1:6-9)? God will try it in the fire, subjecting it to intense heat. The ultimate goal is to purge out all unbelief and impurities. The genuineness of our faith can only be proved in the fire. During hard times of tribulations the lukewarm will drift away, but genuine faith will endure! And the reward will be final salvation (Mat 24:13).” Karen Cochran

The ultimate reason America is being destroyed is not, as some imagine, due to “bad leadership.” No. America is being destroy from within and without due to the rebellion of its people – the sin against God and refusal to repent. Read Jeremiah 18 and Isaiah 1.

Destruction Comes when leaders are allowed to pervert justice!

“The heads (leaders) thereof judge for reward (take bribes), and the priests (religious leaders) thereof teach for hire, and the prophets (religious leaders) thereof divine for money: yet will they lean upon the LORD, and say, Is not the LORD among us? none evil can come upon us. 12  Therefore shall Zion for your sake be plowed as a field, and Jerusalem shall become heaps, and the mountain of the house as the high places of the forest.” Micah 3:11-12

Government Servants and Bribes

“The king by judgment establisheth the land: but he that receiveth gifts (bribes) overthroweth it.” Proverbs 29:4

Inflation Revelation 6

“And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine.” Revelation 6:6

Excessive Inflation is judgment.

“They shall cast their silver in the streets, and their gold shall be removed: their silver and their gold shall not be able to deliver them in the day of the wrath of the LORD: they shall not satisfy their souls, neither fill their bowels: because it is the stumblingblock of their iniquity.” Ezekiel 7:19

Timeline of Impending Doom

Someone is saying “But brother I’ve been listening to dreams and prophecies people are getting about our nation.”

Our hearts can deceive us (Proverbs 28:26; Jeremiah 17:9). We can only be fully “sure” by reading, studying, and knowing the “MORE SURE WORD of prophecy” which is the Holy Scriptures (2 Peter 1:19-21).

“God’s judgment is upon America. We have become Sodom’s sister (Ezekiel 16:46). It’s pride that has rooted itself in the hearts of the American people. And what brings destruction upon nations? Pride! Those who love Him will be looking for a new heaven and a new earth. This world is not our home.

This podcast nailed it biblically! America is defiled, clear to the core, with shocking wickedness. Are we ‘MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH’ ? (Revelation 17:5)? Is the United States the entity ‘having a golden cup’, luring people in by saying “We are the greatest country on earth’ ? (Revelation 17:4) Although we may look appealing because we are supposedly a wealthy country, we are full of abominations, rebellion, sin, pride and full of blasphemy against a holy and righteous God!

We are experiencing His wrath. A nation cannot parade around saying it is ok to change your sex, cut off parts of little children, kill babies up to birth, kill their very own family members, teach pornography to children, mock God, reject the gospel and not expect judgment to fall!” Karen Cochran

THE DISCIPLE OF JESUS SHOULD VIEW HISTORY, INCLUDING WHERE A NATION STANDS THIS DAY, BY “THE MORE SURE WORD OF PROPHECY” WHICH IS THE HOLY SCRIPTURES (Isaiah 46:9-10; 57:15; Romans 15:4; 2 Peter 1:19-21).

Looking at the USA through the lens of Scripture is what is important. We have murdered over 60 million precious innocent babies and called it “choice” but God calls it murder and commands us “Thou not kill.” (Exodus 20:13). The US is over and has been for a long time, as we once knew it. Military men: This isn’t the same USA you and I both signed up to serve. This isn’t the same USA we were born and raised in.

This list of sins in the above passage begins with these 3:

PFA = Pride, Fulness of Bread, and Abundance of idleness.

The Sins of Sodom:

Sins Jerusalem cited for in Ezekiel 16:49-51:

  • Pride (arrogance),
  • Fulness of Bread (gluttony, hoarding),
  • Abundance of Idleness (idle, lazy),
  • did not help those in need due to preoccupation with self-worship (not generous in spreading God’s wealth to His people and work)
  • haughty
  • committed abomination (rampant fornication – just as in the days leading up to the Noahic flood. See Genesis 6)

In the bulleted sins listed above from this revealing Ezekiel 16 passage, did you notice the progression?

Though it culminated in sodomy, yet not one sex sin is even specifically mentioned in this list of Sodom’s sins in Ezekiel 16. Does this not align perfectly with the judgment we see in Romans 1, how “when they knew God, they glorified him not as God” and were unthankful, further enriching themselves while they ignored others?

“Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful (they were ungrateful); but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.” Romans 1:21

A fresh reading of Romans 1 reveals the root sins that preceded the sexual sins which immediately go before divine judgment. See Romans 1:18-32.

The sins that darken the hearts of those who once “knew God” and lead to the ultimate abomination of sodomy/homosexuality are pride, gluttony, idleness, and refusing to be generous givers to believers in need, etc.

Let’s Look Again at the Root, the Gateway Sins of the People of Sodom and Gomorrah:

PFA listed in Ezekiel 16:49-51:

  • Pride (arrogance),
  • Fulness of Bread (gluttony),
  • Abundance of Idleness (idle, lazy),
  • Like the fake religionists priest and Levite of Jesus’ Good Samaritan teaching, they did not help those in need due to preoccupation with self-worship (not generous in spreading God’s wealth to His people and work)

“The deceptions are growing stronger and becoming greater in number, leading us to the ultimate deception which is the antichrist! Beware, that if possible even the elect will be deceived (Mat 24:24). See 1 Corinthians 10:12.

“Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall.”

“America’s root sin is pride. They call us the greatest country on earth. We celebrate gay pride. American’s trust in their pride. We have pushed God out of every part of society, yet still believe in our pride, He is blessing us, because after all, we are the greatest country on earth! We are arrogant and boastful in the power of our own might. Trump has recently built a golden alter to himself and I have seen some pastor’s bowing down. We no longer fear God! God’s judgment is falling, from heaven, upon us! He will spare a remnant just as he always promised in the OT! Faithful believer’s who only bow to Him, seeking His face, keeping themselves unspotted from the world, and remaining pure and clean. Those are His true remnant will be given the fountain of life and never thirst again (Rev 21:6).” Karen Cochran

HERE’S WHAT BEING FULFILLED, WHAT’S COMING TO PASS RIGHT NOW

“And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another. 11  And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. 12  And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold. 13  But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. 14  And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.” Matthew 24:10-14

In the midst of the prophesied great apostasy we are in, Christ’s Remnant are…

  • Waxing hotter in their love for God v12
  • Enduring to the end v13
  • Preaching Christ’s kingdom Gospel to the lost v14

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Famous Last Words of Atheists [podcast]


“Wow! That should put the fear of God in anyone who listens to this podcast! I know it did me! Powerful!” Karen

“The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.” Psalms 14:1

I saw where a brother in Christ asks the so-called “atheists” he meets “Don’t you miss Him?”  In a gentle loving voice he asks them if they miss God. This rings true because we know at some point in their past, God was showing them His kindness, drawing them (John 12:32). He is still showing them kindness in that they are still alive (Romans 2:4).

Think about that. God informed us that all men, with no exception, know inside that He exists. This is why He said that “they are without excuse” (Romans 1:20).

I’ve seen several testimonies lately of people who previously called themselves  “atheist” and are now saved by the blood of Jesus Christ! Keep preaching His glorious saving Gospel beloved saints. He’s coming soon.

Fearful Last Words:

CAESAR BORGIA – Italian nobleman, politician, and cardinal:

“While I lived, I provided for everything but death; now I must die, and am unprepared to die.”

THOMAS HOBBS – Political philosopher:

“I say again, if I had the whole world at my disposal, I would give it to live one day. I am about to take a leap into the dark.”

THOMAS PAYNE – Leading atheistic writer in American colonies:

“Stay with me, for God’s sake; I cannot bear to be left alone, O Lord, help me! O God, what have I done to suffer so much? What will become of me hereafter? I would give worlds if I had them, that ‘The Age of Reason’ had never been published. O Lord, help me! Christ, help me! No, don’t leave; stay with me! Send even a child to stay with me; for I am on the edge of hell here alone. If ever the Devil had an agent, I have been that one.”

SIR THOMAS SCOTT – Chancellor of England:

“Until this moment I thought there was neither a God nor a hell. Now I know and feel that there are both, and I am doomed to perdition by the just judgment of the Almighty.”

VOLTAIRE – Famous anti-Christian atheist:

“…’I am abandoned by God and man.’ He said to his physician, Dr. Fochin: ‘I will give you half of what I am worth if you will give me six months of life.’ When he was told this was impossible, he said, ‘Then I shall die and go to hell!’ His nurse said: ‘For all the money in Europe I wouldn’t want to see another unbeliever die! All night long he cried for forgiveness.’

ROBERT INGERSOLL – American writer and orator of the book, Golden Age of Free Thought:

“O God, if there be a God, save my soul, if I have a soul from hell!”

DAVID HUME – Atheist philosopher famous for his religious skepticism … He cried aloud on his death bed:

“I am in flames!”

Witnessed said his desperation was a horrible scene.

NAPOLEON BONAPARTE – French emperor who … brought death to millions to satisfy his … selfish ambitions for world conquest:

“I die before my time, and my body will be given back to the earth. Such is the fate of him who has been called the great Napoleon. What an abyss between my deep misery and the eternal kingdom of Christ!”

SIR FRANCIS NEWPORT – Head of an English Atheist club, to those gathered around his deathbed:

“You need not tell me there is no God, for I know there is one, and that I am in his presence! You need not tell me there is no hell. I feel myself already slipping. Wretches, cease your idle talk about there being hope for me! I know I am lost forever! Oh, that fire! Oh, the insufferable pangs of hell! Oh, that I could lie for a thousand years upon the fire that is never quenched, to purchase the favor of God and be united to Him again. But it is a fruitless wish. Millions and millions of years will bring me no nearer the end of my torments than one poor hour. Oh, eternity, eternity forever and forever! Oh, the insufferable pangs of Hell!”

CHARLES IX – French king. Urged on by his mother, he gave the order for the massacre of the French Huguenots, in which 15,000 souls were slaughtered in Paris alone and 100,000 in other sections of France, for no other reason than that they loved Christ. … He finally died, bathed in blood bursting from his veins. To his physicians, he said in his last hours:

“Asleep or awake, I see the mangled forms of the Huguenots passing before me. They drop with blood. They point at their open wounds. Oh! That I had spared at least the little infants at the bosom! What blood! I know not where I am. How will all this end? What shall I do? I am lost forever! Oh, I have done wrong…” 

DAVID STRAUSS – Leading representative of German rationalism who spent a lifetime erasing belief in God:

“My philosophy leaves me utterly forlorn! I feel like one caught in the merciless jaws of an automatic machine, not knowing at what time one of its great hammers may crush me!”

JOSEF STALIN – Soviet revolutionary and politician. In a Newsweek interview with Svetlana, his daughter, she told of his death:

“My father died a difficult and terrible death … God grants an easy death only to the just. At what seemed the very last moment, he suddenly opened his eyes and cast a glance over everyone in the room. It was a terrible glance, insane or perhaps angry. His left hand was raised, as though he were pointing to something above and bringing down a curse on us all. The gesture was full of menace…the next morning he was dead.”

ANTON LEVEY – Satanic Bible author and high priest of the Satanic worship religion. … His dying words were:

“Oh my, oh my, what have I done, there is something very wrong.” – newzsteam. wordpress.com. December 19, 2017, by Brian Butler

ELIZABETH THE FIRST: 

“All my possessions for one moment of time.”

KURT COBAIN (suicide note): 

“Frances and Courtney, I’ll be at your altar. Please keep going Courtney, for Frances. For her life will be so much happier without me. I love you. I love you.”

LUDWIG VAN BEETHOVEN:

“Too bad, too bad! It’s too late!”

ANNE BOLEYN:

“O God, have pity on my soul. O God, have pity on my soul.”

PRINCE HENRY OF WALES:

“Tie a rope round my body, pull me out of bed, and lay me in ashes, that I may die with repentant prayers to an offended God. O! I in vain wish for that time I lost with you and others in vain recreations.”

SOCRATES: 

“All of the wisdom of this world is but a tiny raft upon which we must set sail when we leave this earth. If only there was a firmer foundation upon which to sail, perhaps some divine word.”

SIGMUND FREUD: 

“The meager satisfaction that man can extract from reality leaves him starving.”

TONY HANCOCK (British comedian):

“Nobody will ever know I existed. Nothing to leave behind me. Nothing to pass on. Nobody to mourn me. That’s the bitterest blow of all.”

PHILLIP III, King of France:

“What an account I shall have to give to God! How I should like to live otherwise than I have lived.”

LUTHER BURBANK: 

“I don’t feel good.”

Philosophical Last Words:

Aldous Huxley (humanist):

“It is a bit embarrassing to have been concerned with the human problem all one’s life and find at the end that one has no more to offer by way of advice than ‘Try and be a little kinder.’”

Karl Marx: 

“Go on, get out! Last words are for fools who haven’t said enough!”

Leonardo da Vinci: 

“I have offended God and mankind because my work did not reach the quality it should have.”

Tolstoy:

“Even in the valley of the shadow of death, two and two do not make six.”

Benjamin Franklin:

“A dying man can do nothing easy.”

Grotius:

“I have lived my life in a laborious doing of nothing.”

In Stark Contrast to the Wicked, the Righteous Die with Great Hope

“If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable.” 1 Corinthians 15:19

“For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:” 1 Peter 3:18

“For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.” Ephesians 2:8-9

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The Persecution Podcast [podcast]


“Think it not strange” in 1 Peter 4 simply means to not be surprised. If you love the LORD you will want to hear all He says in His Word, including the reality of persecutions for Christ’s sake (John 8:47). Any man posing as a leader among God’s people and isn’t preaching regularly on the reality of Christian persecution, is absolutely an ear-tickling wolf! Run!

Sounds like our LORD is saying that WHATEVER, WHOEVER we lose in this life due to following Jesus, God is going to multiply back to us…

“And Jesus looking upon them saith, With men it is impossible, but not with God: for with God all things are possible. 28 Then Peter began to say unto him, Lo, we have left all, and have followed thee. 29 And Jesus answered and said, Verily I say unto you, There is no man that hath left house, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my sake, and the gospel’s, 30 But he shall receive an hundredfold now in this time, houses, and brethren, and sisters, and mothers, and children, and lands, with persecutions; and in the world to come eternal life. 31 But many that are first shall be last; and the last first.” Mark 10:27-31

“He shall receive a hundred fold, houses, &c. – Not in the same kind: for it will generally be with persecutions: but in value: a hundred fold more happiness than any or all of these did or could afford. But let it be observed, none is entitled to this happiness, but he that will accept it with persecutions.” John Wesley

William MacDonald, the Believer’s Bible Commentary:

“10:28-30 Peter caught the drift of the Savior’s teaching. He realized that Jesus was saying, “Forsake all and follow Me.” Jesus confirmed this by promising present and eternal reward to those who forsake all for His sake and the gospel’s.
1. The present reward is 10,000 per cent return, not in money, but in:
a. houses—homes of other people where he is given accommodations as a servant of the Lord.
b. brothers and sisters and mothers and children—Christian friends whose fellowship enriches all of life.
c. lands—countries of the world which he has claimed for the King.
d. persecutions—these are a part of the present reward. It is a cause of rejoicing when one is found worthy to suffer for Jesus’ sake.
2. The future reward is eternal life. This does not mean that we earn eternal life through forsaking all. Eternal life is a gift. Here the thought is that those who forsake all are rewarded with a greater capacity for enjoying eternal life in heaven. All believers will have that life but not all will enjoy it to the same extent.”

FB Meyer writes:

“Mark 10:23-52
TRUE RICHES AND REAL GREATNESS
Wealth brings many temptations. It is not said that rich men cannot get through the gate, but they will have to stoop very low and be stripped of the love of wealth, though not necessarily of wealth itself. In Christ’s kingdom to give all is to get all. The surrendered life needs no pity, for what it loses on the material side is more than compensated by its enormous spiritual gains, Mar_10:30-31. Perhaps the request of the two brethren was dictated rather by the desire to be near the Master than by ambition; but in any case there is only one price to be paid. We must know the fellowship of His sufferings, if we are to share His glory, 2Ti_2:11, etc.”

“The strongest swords are forged in the hottest fires.” unknown

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