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Just WHAT Signs Did Jesus Say Would Follow True Believers?

ANYone willing to repent can be delivered! Do you know what James 4:7 says?

“Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.” James 4:7

James 4:7 teaches that as and if we are truly, presently submitted to God then we can rebuke the devil and he must flee! The divine truth we have in James 4:7 sets the precedence for deliverance. First, one must submit to God and then and only then can he “resist the devil” and only then does Satan have to “flee.” Memorize this verse.

From this verse of holy truth, we see that it’s God’s will to “resist the devil” which means to set ourselves against him as he is our enemy because we are Christ’s saints. Has God given His people power over devils?

Ordained by WHO?

—— IS CHRIST’S ORDINATION ENOUGH? OR do you need a piece of paper from a mere human organization?

To one man who touted that he was “an ordained minister,” and yet gave a very lengthy, weak, frightened warning to Christians not to mess with Satan and casting out devils, I responded this way:

I refuse to fear the enemy because our LORD conquered him (Col. 2:14-19). I have been blessed to confront and cast Christ’s enemies out for many years now by His grace and holy name and divine authority! Following in order the steps of James 4:7 is vital.

Are you baptized with the Holy Ghost? If not, you certainly should not confront devils because you have not even obeyed basic New Testament teaching.

Do you begin to understand the infinite power in Jesus’ name given to those who know Him? The  Son of God declared: “Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you. 20 Notwithstanding in this rejoice not, that the spirits are subject unto you; but rather rejoice, because your names are written in heaven. 21 In that hour Jesus rejoiced in spirit, and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes: even so, Father; for so it seemed good in thy sight.” (Luke 10:19-21) Note that Jesus says here that EVEN “babes” are given ability to understand the power He gives His children.

“ALL” power and authority is given to WHO? AND WHO did He give it to??? – “And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power (divine authority) is given unto me in heaven and in earth. 19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: 20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.” Matthew 28:18-20

Did Jesus lie to us here or is He truly with His people “always, even unto the end of the world. Amen”? (Matthew 28:20)

IF you have a new versions (corrupted) and are not reading God’s preserved Word (KJV), you may not have this essential commissioning passage BECAUSE satan doesn’t want you to know this – “And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. 16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. 17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; IN MY NAME SHALL THEY CAST OUT DEVILS; they shall speak with new tongues; 18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover. 19 So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God. 20 And they went forth, and preached every where, the Lord working with them, and confirming the word with signs following. Amen.” Mark 16:15-20

If you have a problem with casting out devils, you have a problem with the LORD Himself. Your little dinky seminarian “pastor” has no authority in God’s kingdom and he doesn’t determine kingdom truth – the Word of God does! The LORD is calling you to truly repent and begin to follow Him and not sinful mere men and their illegitimacy.

Jesus taught that we are not to rejoice at being able to cast out devils which among other things seems to indicate that it should be a normal thing for Christians to do.

“Ordained minister”? Only JESUS Himself can and do that.

Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.” John 15:16

If I were not baptized with the Holy Ghost and only under the sham of man’s supposed “ordination” instead of Christ’s, I sure would be afraid also. Friend, you touted here that you are an “ordained minister.” You are “ordained” by WHO? WHAT authority do they have? Zilch. What does mere sinful man’s sanctioning have to do with anything? I sure would be scared, fearful, and spineless too if all I had was mere man’s ordination. The LORD Jesus Christ told us that all true, born again, Holy Ghost filled, obedient disciples of Jesus Christ are “chosen” and “ordained” by the Highest Authority. In fact, NO other entity has an iota of authority in God’s kingdom to ordain anyone (John 15:16). Also, I suggest you re-read your first post above and notice how much faith you have in Satan with little or none displayed in the one who made lucifer who became satan. Your words seem to suggest that your full and complete faith is in the very enemy of souls while being in brazen denial and unbelief of the One who bled to conquer him and then commissioned those who are truly His to “cast out devils.” (Mark 16:17)

Any born again believer who is truly abiding in Christ, is “chosen” and “ordained” to “go and bring forth much fruit” by the very One who made all things and created Lucifer who rebelled and became Satan.

In a monumental passage concerning the key to casting out devils and getting rid of all unbelief, Jesus says that it’s by “fasting and prayer” that the victory is wrought. But that part is removed or doubted as divinely inspired in Satan’s new versions. Now, the enemy of all souls didn’t want Christ’s church/people to know this so he had his scribes remove this important passage or cast doubt upon it by putting a note in the margin. Hoofprints! The last verse in this passage is removed in some new versions and or doubted. This is where Jesus gives the answer to getting precious souls delivered from the devil. So just WHO do you think wanted this removed?

“Lord, have mercy on my son: for he is lunatick (devil possessed), and sore vexed: for ofttimes he falleth into the fire, and oft into the water. 16 And I brought him to thy disciples, and they could not cure him. 17 Then Jesus answered and said, O faithless and perverse generation, how long shall I be with you? how long shall I suffer you? bring him hither to me. 18 And Jesus rebuked the devil; and he departed out of him: and the child was cured from that very hour. 19 Then came the disciples to Jesus apart, and said, Why could not we cast him out? 20 And Jesus said unto them, Because of your unbelief: for verily I say unto you, If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you. 21 Howbeit this kind goeth not out but by prayer and fasting.” Matthew 17:15-21

Isn’t it profoundly amazing how such spineless bafoons pretending to represent Christ so grossly malign and misrepresent Him? Has the “Alpha and Omega,” the very “Almighty God” changed? (Revelation 1:8; Hebrews 13:8)  Is the Creator of all that is now controlled by, owned, and ordered around by His creation? No, His divine arm is not weakened or diminished in strength but rather our sins have withhold-en these things from bound souls due to wolves who are misrepresenting Christ!

“Behold, the Lord’s hand is not shortened, that it cannot save; neither his ear heavy, that it cannot hear: But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear.” Isaiah 59:1-2

Just WHO is Jesus Christ? Memory verse: “I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.” Revelation 1:8

Have you read the  Gospels? Did Jesus Christ raise the dead, heal the sick, open blinded eyes, etc.? Yes! And has He changed?

“Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.” Hebrews 13:8

THERE IS NO APOLOGY FROM TRUE DISCIPLES FOR OBEYING JESUS. WE REFUSE TO BOW TO YOUR WIMPY, FALSE RELIGIOUS “SAFETY.” Being baptized in the Holy Spirit is NEW TESTAMENT, not charismatic (like the false movement).

Biblical Deliverance Prescription:

If you truly desire to be delivered from all oppression or possession of the enemy of all souls, you will read and heed this divine prescription – a guarantee for your liberty in Christ.

  • Set yourself apart (Psalms 4:3).
  • Seek the face of the LORD in a time of fasting and prayer (Isaiah 58; Matthew 17:21 KJV only – the new perversions have removed this verse).
  • Repent of all known sin in order to shut out the enemy by cancelling his legal right to you (James 4:7).
  • As we submit ourselves to the LORD, the enemy will be cast out and kept out in Jesus’ holy name (Mark 16:17; Acts 16:18; James 4:7; Matthew 12:43-45)
  • Ask God to baptize you with the Holy Ghost (Matthew 3:11; Luke 11:13; 24:49; Acts 1:4-8; 2:1-4, 38-39; 8:14-17; 10:44-48; 19:1-6, etc.).
  • Memorize Hosea 10:12
  • Pore over James 4:4-10
  • Read and do Isaiah 58.
  • Memorize Mark 10:27
  • Now, once delivered, you must keep your house – temple – clean and clear of all sin and this will keep Satan out (Matthew 12:43-45).
  • This will keep him from having legal right to your life through sin  (James 4:7).
  • Know that God is able and willing and desires to make you completely whole, set apart to Him, and free (2 Corinthians 6:14-7:1).
  • Liberty is in Christ and staying rooted in Him (2 Corinthians 3:17).
  • Those who obey the LORD’s truth are made free (John 8:31-32, 36).
  • God wants us to speak with Him. So, come before the LORD with “words” of repentance, denunciation of all idols, and placing all your trust – the whole weight of your existence – upon Him (Hosea 14:1-3).

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FEEDBACK:

“Reminds me of the scribes & pharisees forbidding the disciples from casting out demons in Jesus’ name, and the question: “In whose name do you cast them out?” Obviously, scribes & pharisees did not cast out any demons at all. Similar to pharisaical questioning about healing on the Sabbath, and Jesus’ healing of the man born blind. The scribes & pharisees had never been used of God to heal anyone, and had never seen divine healing.” John H.

Discussing God’s Word: WHEN believers are having a discussion, we shouldn’t tout our “credentials.” Divine authority is in God’s Word and not us or our supposed resume’. Most of the time when people tout their credentials, it’s to cover for their lack of knowledge of God’s Word and to defend lies. Furthermore, many Bible college and seminarians are not necessarily very knowledgeable in God’s Word and that’s what matters when we are sorting out divine truth. Just because you have “formal training” means nothing. In fact, you may wish to go before the LORD in prayer and openly denounce all the “trophies” which only hinder us. Paul violently denounced his so-called “higher learning.” (Philippians 3)

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Spiritual Formation—A Dangerous Substitute for the Life of Christ [podcast]


Sometimes we think of spiritual formation as formation by the Holy Spirit. Once again. That’s essential. . . . But now I have to say something that may be challenging for you to think about: Spiritual formation is not all by the Holy Spirit. . . . We have to recognize that spiritual formation in us is something that is also done to us by those around us, by ourselves, and by activities which we voluntarily undertake . . .There has to be method.1—Dallas Willard

Aside from the fact that Spiritual Formation incorporates mystical practices into its infrastructure (remove the contemplative aspect and you don’t have “Spiritual Formation” anymore), Spiritual Formation is a works-based substitute for biblical Christianity. Let us explain.

When one becomes born again (“that if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved” (Romans 10:9-10), having given his or her life and heart over to Christ as Savior, Jesus Christ says He will come in and live in that surrendered heart:

Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me. (Revelation 3:20)

To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory: (Colossians 1:27)

If the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you. (Romans 8:11; emphasis added)

When God, through Jesus Christ, is living in us, He begins to do a transforming work in our hearts (2 Corinthians 3:18). Not only does He change us, He also communes with us. In other words, we have fellowship with Him, and He promises never to leave or forsake us (Hebrews 13:5).

This life of God in the believer’s heart is not something we need to conjure up through meditative practices. But if a person does not have this relationship with the Lord, he may seek out ways to feel close to God. This is where Spiritual Formation comes into play. Rather than a surrendered life to Christ (through repentance and faith), the seeking person begins practicing the spiritual disciplines (e.g., prayer, fasting, good works, etc.) with the promise that if he practices these disciplines, he will become more Christ-like.

But merely doing these acts fails to make one feel close to God—something is still missing. And thus, he begins practicing the discipline of silence (or solitude), and now in these altered states of silence, he finally feels connected to God. He now feels complete. What he does not understand is that he has substituted the indwelling of Christ in his heart for a works-based methodology that endangers his spiritual life. Dangerous because these mystical experiences he now engages in appear to be good because they make him feel close to God, but in reality he is being drawn into demonic realms no different than what happens to someone who is practicing transcendental meditation or eastern meditation. Even mystics themselves acknowledge that the contemplative realm is no different than the realm reached by occultists. To understand this more fully, please read Ray Yungen’s book A Time of Departing.

Bottom line, it is not possible to be truly Christ-like without having Christ inside of us because it is His righteousness that is able to change our hearts—we cannot do it without Him. It is His righteousness we need:

Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe. (Romans 3:22)

And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith. (Philippians 3:9)

It is interesting to note that virtually every contemplative teacher has a common theme—they feel dry and empty and want to go “deeper” with God or “become more intimate” with God. But if we have Christ living in us, how can we go any deeper than that? How can we become more intimate than that? And if going deeper and becoming intimate were so important, why is it that none of the disciples or Jesus Himself ever told us to do this? As Larry DeBruyn states:

Why are Christians seeking a divine presence that Jesus promised would abundantly flow in them? . . . Why do they need another voice, another visitation, or another vision? Why are some people unthankfully desirous of “something more” than what God has already given to us? Why is it that some Christians, in the depth of their souls, are not seemingly at rest?2

Is There a “Good” Spiritual Formation?

One of the most common arguments we hear defending Spiritual Formation is that there is a “good” Spiritual Formation done without contemplative prayer. To that we say, we have never yet seen a Spiritual Formation program in a school or a church that doesn’t in some way point people to the contemplative mystics. It might be indirectly, but in every case, if you follow the trail, it will lead you right into the arms of Richard Foster, Dallas Willard, and other contemplative teachers.

Think about this common scenario: A Christian college decides to begin a Spiritual Formation course. The instructor has heard some negative things about Richard Foster, Henri Nouwen, and Brennan Manning, and he figures he will teach the class “good Spiritual Formation” and leave those teachers completely out. But he’s going to need a textbook. He turns to a respected institution, Dallas Theological Seminary, and finds a book written by Paul Pettit, Professor in Pastoral and Education Ministries. The book is titled Foundations of Spiritual Formation. The instructor who has found this book to use in his own class may never mention Richard Foster or Dallas Willard, but the textbook he is using does. Within the pages of Pettit’s book is Richard Foster, Philip Yancey, N.T. Wright, Dallas Willard, Thomas Aquinas, Lectio Divina, Ayn Rand, Parker Palmer, Eugene Peterson, J.P. Moreland, Klaus Issler, Bruce Demarerst, Jim Burns, Kenneth Boa and Brother Lawrence’s “practicing God’s presence.” You may not have heard of all these names, but they are all associated with the mystical contemplative prayer movement and the emerging church.

Another example of this is Donald Whitney’s book Spiritual Disciplines for the Christian Life. Whitney is former Associate Professor at The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary and currently at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary. While his book does not promote contemplative mysticism, he says that Richard Foster has “done much good”3 in the area of Christian spirituality (which we believe is blatantly untrue).

Our point is that even if there is a sincere attempt to teach Spiritual Formation and stay away from the mystical side, we contend that it cannot be successfully accomplished because it will always lead back to the ones who have brought it to the church in the first place.

Spiritual formation is sweeping throughout Christianity today. It’s no wonder when the majority of Christian leaders have either endorsed the movement or given it a silent pass. For instance, in Chuck Swindoll’s book So You Want to Be Like Christ: 8 Essential Disciplines to Get You There, Swindoll favorably quotes Richard Foster and Dallas Willard. Swindoll calls Celebration of Discipline a “meaningful work”4 and Willard’s book The Spirit of the Disciplines “excellent work.”5 In chapter three, ”Silence and Solitude,” Swindoll talks about “digging for secrets . . . that will deepen our intimacy with God.”6 Quoting the contemplative poster-verse Psalm 46:10, “Be still, and know that I am God,” Swindoll says the verse is a call to the “discipline of silence.”7 As other contemplative proponents have done, he has taken this verse very much out of context.

Roger Oakland sums it up:

The Spiritual Formation movement . . . teaches people that this is how they can become more intimate with God and truly hear His voice. Even Christian leaders with longstanding reputations of teaching God’s word seem to be succumbing. . . .

We are reconciled to God only through his “death” (the atonement for sin), and we are presented “holy and unblameable and unreproveable” when we belong to Him through rebirth. It has nothing to do with works, rituals, or mystical experiences. It is Christ’s life in the converted believer that transforms him.8

“For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.” Romans 5:10

What Christians need is not a method or program or ritual or practice that will supposedly connect them to God. What we need is to be “in Christ” (1 Corinthians 1:30) and Christ in us. And He has promised His Spirit “will guide [us] into all truth” (John 16:13).

“But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption:” 1 Corinthians 1:30

In Colossians 1:9, the apostle Paul tells the saints that he was praying for them that they “might be filled with the knowledge of his will in all wisdom and spiritual understanding.” He was praying that they would have discernment (“spiritual understanding”). He said that God, the Father, has made us “partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light” (vs 12) and had “delivered us from the power of darkness [i.e., power of deception]” (vs. 13). But what was the key to having this wisdom and spiritual understanding and being delivered from the power of darkness? Paul tells us in that same chapter. He calls it “the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints” (vs. 26). What is that mystery? Verse 27 says: “To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory” (emphasis added).

For those wanting to get involved with the Spiritual Formation movement (i.e., contemplative, spiritual direction), consider the “direction” you will actually be going.

And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled in the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight: If ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel. (Colossians 1:21-23)

Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. For in him dwelleth all the fullness of the Godhead bodily. And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power. (Colossians 2: 8-10)

This article is an extract from the Lighthouse Trails booklet, Is Your Church Doing Spiritual Formation? (Important Reasons Why They Shouldn’t). To order this booklet, click here.

Endnotes:
1. Dallas Willard, “Spiritual Formation: What it is, and How it is Done” (https://dwillard.org/resources/articles/spiritual-formation-what-it-is-and-how-it-is-done).

2. Larry DeBruyn, “God’s Present of His Presence” (https://www.guardinghisflock.org/gods-present-of-his-presence/ ).

3. Donald Whitney, “Doctrine and Devotion: A Reunion Devoutly to be Desired” (http://web.archive.org/web/20080828052145/http://biblicalspirituality.org/devotion.html).

4. Chuck Swindoll, So You Want to Be Like Christ: 8 Essential Disciplines to Get You There (Nashville, TN:W Publishing Group, a div. of Thomas Nelson, 2005), p. 15.

5. Ibid., p. 13.

6. Ibid., p. 55.

7. Ibid.

8. Roger Oakland, Faith Undone (Eureka, MT: Lighthouse Trails Publishing, 2007), pp. 91-92.

This has been an extract from our booklet Is Your Church Doing Spiritual Formation? (Important Reasons Why It Shouldn’t). To order this booklet, click here.

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