Another Scam CATHOLIC Bible Version
By Dr. Ken Matto
Another new translation has been foisted upon the church in 2010 and this one too is nothing but a corruption of the real Bible. The translation committee had a quite a number of unbelievers working on it. Some of which are below and the list comes from their own website. How can anyone trust this counterfeit when so many unbelievers have worked on it. Since when does God hand His Holy Word over to unbelievers for translation. This is a highly ecumenical version and should be avoided by all serious Christians. As one would expect, they used the Hort-Westcott Critical Text which is used by all modern versions, so then what makes this translation better than the other ones? Let me answer that in New Jersey English, “Nuttin!”
“The Common English Bible is committed to the whole church of Jesus Christ. To achieve this, the CEB represents the work of a diverse team with broad scholarship, including the work of over one hundred and seventeen scholars—men and women from twenty-two faith traditions in American, African, Asian, European and Latino communities. As a result, the English translation of ancient words has an uncommon relevance for a broad audience of Bible readers—from children to scholars.”
From-
http://www.commonenglishbible.com/Explore/AbouttheCEB/tabid/196/Default.aspx
The Ecumenical Translators
Roman Catholics
Margaret M. Mitchell – University of Chicago Divinity School – Chicago, IL
Raymond Collins – The Catholic University of America – Saunderstown, RI
John J. Collins – Yale University – Guilford, CT
Carol Dempsey – University of Portland – Portland, OR
Daniel Harrington Weston – Jesuit School of Theology – Cambridge, MA
Patrick Hartin – Gonzaga University – Spokane, WA
Luke Timothy Johnson – Candler School of Theology – Atlanta, GA
John Kaltner – Rhodes College – Memphis, TN
Pheme Perkins – Boston College – Wayland, MA
Anathea Portier-Young – Duke Divinity School – Durham, NC
Seung Ai Yang – Chicago Theological Seminary – Chicago, IL
Seventh Day Adventist
Roy Gane – Seventh-Day Adventist Theological Seminary – Berrien Springs, MI
Bernard Taylor – Loma Linda University – Loma Linda, CA
Quaker
Harold Washington – St Paul School of Theology – Kansas City, MO
Judaism
Sarah Tanzer – McCormick Theological Seminary – Chicago, IL
Below is the URL for their website where this abbreviated list of translators is taken from.
http://www.commonenglishbible.com/Explore/AbouttheCEB/Translators/tabid/207/Default.aspx
We will see that this counterfeit version also has total agreement with the Jehovah’s Witness Bible and the Roman Catholic Bible. Below is a 50 verse comparison to show that this bible is as corrupt as the other modern versions. (Eccl 1:9 KJV) The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.
KJV – King James Version
CEB – Common English Bible
NAB – New American Bible – Roman Catholic
NWT – New World Translation – Jehovah’s Witnesses
Matthew 8:29
KJV: And, behold, they cried out, saying, What have we to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of God? art thou come hither to torment us before the time?
CEB: They cried out, “What are you going to do with us, Son of God? Have you come to torture us before the time of judgment?”
NWT: And, look! they screamed, saying: “What have we to do with you, Son of God? Did you come here to torment us before the appointed time?”
NAB: With a sudden shriek they cried: “Why meddle with us, Son of God? Have you come to torture us before the appointed time?”
Matthew 17:21
KJV: Howbeit this kind goeth not out but by prayer and fasting.
CEB: Omitted
NWT: Omitted
NAB: [This kind does not leave but by prayer and fasting.] (Placed in Brackets)
Matthew 18:11
KJV: For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost.
CEB: Omitted
NWT: Omitted
NAB: Omitted
Matthew 19:9
KJV: And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.
CEB: I say to you that whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual unfaithfulness, and marries another woman commits adultery.”
NWT: I say to you that whoever divorces his wife, except on the ground of fornication, and marries another commits adultery.”
NAB: I now to say to you, whoever divorces his wife (lewd conduct is a separate case) and marries another commits adultery, and the man who marries a divorced woman commits adultery.”
Matthew 27:35
KJV: And they crucified him, and parted his garments, casting lots: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, They parted my garments among them, and upon my vesture did they cast lots.
CEB: After they crucified him, they divided up his clothes among them by drawing lots.
NWT: When they had impaled him they distributed his outer garments by casting lots.
NAB: When they had crucified him, they divided his clothes among them casting lots.
Mark 6:11
KJV: And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear you, when ye depart thence, shake off the dust under your feet for a testimony against them. Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city.
CEB: If a place doesn’t welcome you or listen to you, as you leave, shake the dust off your feet as a witness against them.”
NWT: And wherever a place will not receive you nor hear you, on going out from there shake off the dirt that is beneath your feet for a witness to them”
NAB: If any place will not receive you or hear you, shake its dust from your feet in testimony against them as you leave.
Mark 9:44, 46
KJV: 44 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched. 46 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
CEB: Omitted
NWT: Omitted
NAB: Omitted
Mark 11:26
KJV: But if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespasses.
CEB: Omitted
NWT: Omitted
NAB: Omitted
Mark 15:28
KJV: And the scripture was fulfilled, which saith, And he was numbered with the transgressors.
CEB: Omitted
NWT: Omitted
NAB: Omitted
Luke 2:33
KJV: And Joseph and his mother marvelled at those things which were spoken of him.
CEB: His father and mother were amazed by what was said about him.
NWT: And its father and mother continued wondering at the things being spoken about it.
NAB: The child’s father and mother were marveling at what was being said about him.
Luke 4:4
KJV: And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.
CEB: Jesus replied, “It’s written, People won’t live only by bread.”
NWT: But Jesus replied to him: “It is written, ‘Man must not live by bread alone.'”
NAB: Jesus answered him, “Scripture has it, ‘Not on bread alone shall man live.'”
Luke 9:55
KJV: But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of.
CEB: But Jesus turned and spoke sternly to them,
NWT: But he turned and reproved them
NAB: He turned toward them only to reprimand them.
Luke 9:56
KJV: For the Son of man is not come to destroy men’s lives, but to save them. And they went to another village.
CEB: and they went on to another village.
NWT: So they went to a different village.
NAB: Then they set off for another town.
Luke 17:36
KJV: Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
CEB: Omitted
NWT: Omitted
NAB: Omitted
Luke 23:17
KJV: (For of necessity he must release one unto them at the feast.)
CEB: Omitted
NWT: Omitted
NAB: Omitted
Luke 23:38
KJV: And a superscription also was written over him in letters of Greek, and Latin, and Hebrew, THIS IS THE KING OF THE JEWS.
CEB: Above his head was a notice of the formal charge against him. It read “This is the king of the Jews.”
NWT: There was also an inscription over him: “This is the king of the Jews.”
NAB: There was an inscription over his head: “THIS IS THE KING OF THE JEWS.”
John 3:15
KJV: That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
CEB: so that everyone who believes in him will have eternal life.
NWT: that everyone believing in him may have everlasting life.
NAB: that all who believe may have eternal life in him.
John 5:3
KJV: In these lay a great multitude of impotent folk, of blind, halt, withered, waiting for the moving of the water.
CEB: And a crowd of people who were sick, blind, lame, and paralyzed sat there.
NWT: In these a multitude of the sick, blind, lame and those with withered members, was lying down.
NAB: were crowded with sick people lying there blind, lame or disabled [waiting for the movement of the water.]
John 5:4
KJV: For an angel went down at a certain season into the pool, and troubled the water: whosoever then first after the troubling of the water stepped in was made whole of whatsoever disease he had.
CEB: Omitted
NWT: Omitted
NAB: Omitted
John 6:47
KJV: Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.
CEB: I tell you the truth, he who believes has everlasting life.
NWT: Most truly I say to YOU, He that believes has everlasting life.
NAB: Let me firmly assure you, he who believes has eternal life.
John 16:16
KJV: A little while, and ye shall not see me: and again, a little while, and ye shall see me, because I go to the Father.
CEB: Soon you won’t be able to see me; soon after that, you will see me.”
NWT: In a little while you will behold me no longer, and again, in a little while you will see me.”
NAB: Within a short time you will lose sight of me, but soon after that you shall see me again.”
Acts 2:30
KJV: Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;
CEB: Because he was a prophet, he knew that God promised him with an oath to seat one of his descendants on his throne.
NWT: Therefore, because he was a prophet and knew that God had sworn to him with an oath that he would seat one from the fruitage of his loins upon his throne.
NAB: He was a prophet and knew that God had sworn to him that one of his descendants would sit upon his throne.
Acts 7:37
KJV: This is that Moses, which said unto the children of Israel, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear.
CEB: This is the Moses who told the Israelites, ‘God will raise up for you a prophet like me from your own people.’
NWT: “This is the Moses that said to the sons of Israel, ‘God will raise up for you from among YOUR brothers a prophet like me.’
NAB: This Moses is the one who said to the Israelites, ‘God will raise up for you from among your kinsmen a prophet like me.’
Acts 8:37
KJV: And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.
CEB: Omitted
NWT: Omitted
NAB: Omitted – Takes half of verse 36 as verse 37
Acts 24:7
KJV: But the chief captain Lysias came upon us, and with great violence took him away out of our hands,
CEB: Omitted
NWT: Omitted
NAB: Omitted
Romans 1:16
KJV: For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
CEB: I’m not ashamed of the gospel: it is God’s own power for salvation to all who have faith in God, to the Jew first and also to the Greek.
NWT: For I am not ashamed of the good news; it is, in fact, God’s power for salvation to everyone having faith, to the Jew first and also to the Greek.
NAB: I am not ashamed of the gospel. It is the power of God leading everyone who believes in it to salvation, the Jew first, then the Greek.
Romans 8:1
KJV: There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
CEB: So now there isn’t any condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.
NWT: Therefore those in union with Christ Jesus have no condemnation.
NAB: There is no condemnation now for those who are in Christ Jesus
Romans 11:6
KJV: And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.
CEB: But if it is by grace, it isn’t by what’s done anymore. If it were, God’s grace wouldn’t be grace.
NWT: Now if it is by undeserved kindness, it is no longer due to works; otherwise, the undeserved kindness no longer proves to be undeserved kindness.
NAB: But if the choice is by grace, it is not because of their works-otherwise grace would not be grace
Romans 16:24
KJV: The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.
CEB: Omitted
NWT: Omitted
NAB: Omitted – They take part of verse 23 for verse 24
1 Corinthians 6:20
KJV: For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God’s.
CEB: You have been bought and paid for, so honor God with your body.
NWT: for you were bought with a price. By all means, glorify God in the body of YOU people.
NAB: You have been purchased, and at a price. So glorify God in your body.
1 Corinthians 7:39
KJV: The wife is bound by the law as long as her husband liveth; but if her husband be dead, she is at liberty to be married to whom she will; only in the Lord.
CEB: A woman is obligated to stay in her marriage as long as her husband is alive. But if her husband dies, she is free to marry whomever she wants, only it should be a believer in the Lord.
NWT: A wife is bound during all the time her husband is alive. But if her husband should fall asleep [in death], she is free to be married to whom she wants, only in [the] Lord.
NAB: A wife is bound to her husband as long as he lives. If her husband dies she is free to marry, but on one condition, that it be in the Lord.
1 Corinthians 15:47
KJV: The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.
CEB: The first human was from the earth made from dust; the second human is from heaven.
NWT: The first man is out of the earth and made of dust; the second man is out of heaven.
NAB: The first man was of earth, formed from dust, the second is from heaven.
Galatians 3:1
KJV: O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you?
CEB: You irrational Galatians! Who put a spell on you? Jesus Christ was put on display as crucified before your eyes!
NWT: O senseless Galatians, who is it that brought you under evil influence, you before whose eyes Jesus Christ was openly portrayed impaled?
NAB: You senseless Galatians! Who has cast a spell over you-you before whose eyes Jesus Christ was displayed to view upon his cross?
Galatians 3:17
KJV: And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect.
CEB: I’m saying this: the Law, which came four hundred and thirty years later, doesn’t invalidate the agreement that was previously validated by God so that it cancels the promise.
NWT: Further, I say this: As to the covenant previously validated by God, the law that has come into being four hundred and thirty years later does not invalidate it, so as to abolish the promise.
NAB: My point is this: a covenant formally ratified by God is not set aside as invalid by any law that came into being four hundred and thirty years later, nor is its promise nullified.
Ephesians 3:9
KJV: And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:
CEB: God sent me to reveal the secret plan that had been hidden since the beginning of time by God, who created everything.
NWT: and should make men see how the sacred secret is administered which has from the indefinite past been hidden in God, who created all things.
NAB: and to enlighten all men on the mysterious design which for ages was hidden in God, the Creator of all.
Ephesians 3:14
KJV: For this cause I bow my knees unto the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,
CEB: This is why I kneel before the Father.
NWT: On account of this I bend my knees to the Father,
NAB: This is why I kneel before the Father
Ephesians 5:30
KJV: For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.
CEB: because we are parts of his body.
NWT: because we are members of his body.
NAB: for we are members of his body.
Colossians1:14
KJV: In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:
CEB: He set us free through the Son and forgave our sins.
NWT: by means of whom we have our release by ransom, the forgiveness of our sins.
NAB: Through him we have redemption, the forgiveness of our sins.
1 Thessalonians 1:1
KJV: Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus, unto the church of the Thessalonians which is in God the Father and in the Lord Jesus Christ: Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.
CEB: From Paul, Silvanus, and Timothy. To the Thessalonians’ church that is in God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ. Grace and peace to all of you.
NWT: Paul and Silvanus and Timothy to the congregation of the Thessalonians in union with God the father and [the] Lord Jesus Christ: May YOU have undeserved kindness and peace.
NAB: Paul, Silvanus, and Timothy, to the church of the Thessalonians who belong to God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ. Grace and peace be yours.
1 Timothy 2:7
KJV: Whereunto I am ordained a preacher, and an apostle, (I speak the truth in Christ, and lie not;) a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and verity.
CEB: I was appointed to be a preacher and apostle of this testimony—I’m telling the truth and I’m not lying! I’m a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and truth.
NWT: For the purpose of this witness I was appointed a preacher and an apostle-I am telling the truth, I am not lying-a teacher of nations in the matter of faith and truth.
NAB: I have been made its herald and apostle (believe me, I am not lying but speak the truth), the teacher of the nations in the true faith
1 Timothy 3:16
KJV: And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
CEB: Without question, the mystery of godliness is great: he was revealed as a human, declared righteous by the Spirit, seen by angels, preached to throughout the nations, believed in around the world, and taken up in glory.
NWT: Indeed, the sacred secret of this godly devotion is admittedly great: ‘He was made manifest in flesh, was declared righteous in spirit, appeared to angels, was preached about among the nations, was believed upon in [the] world, was received up in glory.
NAB: Wonderful, indeed, is the mystery of our faith, as we say in professing it: “He was manifested in the flesh, vindicated in the Spirit; Seen by the angels; preached among the Gentiles, Believed in throughout the world, taken up in glory.”
Hebrews 7:21
KJV: (For those priests were made without an oath; but this with an oath by him that said unto him, The Lord sware and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec:)
CEB: but this priest was affirmed with an oath by the one who said, The Lord has made an oath and will not change his mind: You are a priest forever.
NWT: (for there are indeed men that have become priests without a sworn oath, but there is one with an oath sworn by the One who said respecting him: “Jehovah has sworn (and he will feel no regret), ‘You are a priest forever,’ “)
NAB: unlike Jesus to whom God said: “The Lord has sworn, and he will not repent: ‘You are a priest forever, according to the order of Melchizedek. ‘ ”
1 Peter 1:22
KJV: Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently:
CEB: As you set yourselves apart by your obedience to the truth so that you might have genuine affection for your fellow believers, love each other deeply and earnestly.
NWT: Now that YOU have purified YOUR souls by [YOUR] obedience to the truth with unhypocritical brotherly love as the result, love one another intensely from the heart.
NAB: By obedience to the truth you have purified yourselves for a genuine love of your brothers; therefore, love one another constantly from the heart.
1 John 5:7-8
KJV: For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. 8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.
CEB: {7} The three are testifying— {8} the Spirit, the water, and the blood—and the three are united in agreement.
NWT: {7} For there are three witness bearers, {8} the spirit and the water and the blood, and the three are in agreement.
NAB: {7} Thus there are three that testify: {8} the Spirit, and the water and the blood-and these three are of one accord.
1 John 5:13
KJV: These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.
CEB: I write these things to you who believe in the name of God’s Son so that you can know that you have eternal life.
NWT: I write you these things that you may know that you have life everlasting, you who put your faith in the name of the Son of God
NAB: I have written this to you to make you realize that you possess eternal life-you who believe in the name of the Son of God.
Revelation 1:8
KJV: I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.
CEB: “I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “the one who is and was and is coming, the Almighty.”
NWT: “I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says Jehovah God, “the One who is and who was and who is coming, the Almighty.”
NAB: The Lord God says, “I am the Alpha and the Omega, the One who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty!”
Revelation 1:11
KJV: Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.
CEB: It said, “Write down on a scroll whatever you see, and send it to the seven churches: to Ephesus, Smyrna, Pergamum, Thyatira, Sardis, Philadelphia, and Laodicea.”
NWT: saying: “What you see write in a scroll and send it to the seven congregations, in Ephesus and in Smyrna and in Pergamum and in Thyatira and in Sardis and in Philadelphia and in Laodicea.
NAB: which said, “Write on a scroll what you now see and send it to the seven churches: to Ephesus, Smyrna, Pergamum, Thyatira, Sardis, Philadelphia and Laodicea.”
Revelation 5:14
KJV: And the four beasts said, Amen. And the four and twenty elders fell down and worshipped him that liveth for ever and ever.
CEB: Then the four living creatures said, “Amen,” and the elders fell down and worshipped.
NWT: And the four living creatures went saying: “Amen!” and the older persons fell down and worshiped.
NAB: The four living creatures answered, “Amen,” and the elders fell down and worshiped.
Revelation 20:12
KJV: And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
CEB: I saw the dead, the great and the small, standing before the throne, and scrolls were opened. Another scroll was opened too; this is the Scroll of Life. And the dead were judged on the basis of what was written in the scrolls about what they had done.
NWT: And I saw the dead, the great and the small, standing before the throne, and scrolls were opened. But another scroll was opened; it is the scroll of life. And the dead were judged out of those things written in the scrolls according to their deeds.
NAB: I saw the dead, the great and the lowly, standing before the throne. Lastly among the scrolls, the book of the living was opened. The dead were judged according to their conduct as recorded on the scrolls.
Revelation 21:24
KJV: And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.
CEB: The nations will walk by its light, and the kings of the earth will bring their glory into it.
NWT: And the nations will walk by means of its light, and the kings of the earth will bring their glory into it.
NAB: The four living creatures answered, “Amen,” and the elders fell down and worshiped.
Abiding
What Eternal Security Wolves Refuse to Teach [podcast]
THE 5 SINS THAT KEPT ISRAEL (God’s own covenant people) OUT OF THEIR PROMISED LAND OF BLESSINGS and will keep us out if not relinquished. Friend, please read 1 Corinthians 10:1-13 with all your might. Make this text your meat.
The world seeks to romance sin but if God says it’s sin, that’s what it is. Toning down the terms changes nothing. Judgment Day is on the way.
We are fighting the good fight of faith, “striving against sin” and “more than conquerors” over sin through Jesus who loves us and bought us with His own blood! (1 Timothy 6:12; Hebrews 12:4; 13:12; Acts 20:28; Romans 8:37)
There are the 5 sins listed here that kept God’s people out of His blessings. We all need to L.I.F.T.M. up to the LORD in repentance and for His perfect forgiveness and cleansing. God the Holy Spirit warns us here through Paul’s pen (1 Cor. 10:1-13), that Israel and these sins are “examples” (vv. 6, 11) to all NT believers. God destroys those who go back on Him after knowing Him (transgressors – Ps. 68:21; 73:28; 125:5, etc.). If not ridden out of our lives, any one of these 5 sins WILL keep us out of our promised land. God is holy (Heb. 12:14). As taken in order from 1 Cor. 10:6-10, here are those 5 sins:
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Lust
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Idolatry
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Fornication
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Tempting Christ
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Murmuring
This simple acronym should help us to remember these sins and remain separate from them as we grow today to know and love our Savior more fervently. “Keep thyself pure” (1 Timothy 5:22).
Committing the sin is one thing (1 John 1:8-10, right) and refusing to repent of it is yet another. Refusing to acknowledge, repent, confess, and cease is what snares the soul and ousts us from Christ (Proverbs 28:13).
“He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall have mercy.” Proverbs 28:13
If the Holy Spirit has quickened any offences of your heart, simply L.I.F.T.M. up to Christ the Redeemer, Forgiver, Cleanser, and Transformer of lives.
Fornication Defiles
“It is reported commonly that there is fornication among you, and such fornication as is not so much as named among the Gentiles, that one should have (Gr. possessed and wouldn’t repent) his father’s wife. 2 And ye are puffed up, and have not rather mourned, that he that hath done this deed might be taken away from among you.” 1 Corinthians 5:1-2
1 Corinthians 10 completely destroys the OSAS / eternal security argument.
Notice the word “OUR” in verses 6 and 11. This is directly spoken to warn NEW Testament saints that they are going to hell if they live and die in sin.
Case closed.
1 Corinthians 10:1-12
1 Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea;
2 And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea;
3 And did all eat the same spiritual meat;
4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.
5 But with many of them God was not well pleased: for they were overthrown in the wilderness.
6 Now these things were OUR examples, to the intent we should not lust after evil things, as they also LUSTED.
7 Neither be ye IDOLATERS, as were some of them; as it is written, The people sat down to eat and drink, and rose up to play.
8 Neither let us commit FORNICATION, as some of them committed, and fell in one day three and twenty thousand.
9 Neither let us TEMPT CHRIST, as some of them also tempted, and were destroyed of serpents.
10 Neither MURMUR ye, as some of them also murmured, and were destroyed of the destroyer.
11 Now all these things happened unto them for ensamples: and they are written for OUR admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come.
12 Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall.
13 There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.
The cross. Christ raises up those who are crcified with Him – outside of which no man can overcome sin. Romans 6.
“But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.” 1 Corinthians 9:27
Eternal security is a false teaching. 1 sin separated Adam and Eve from God and “The wages of sin is (still) death” because God is Holy (Rom 6:23, etc.). Moral coward counterfeits hate, despise the Gospel essential of the cross, the crucified life. They want Jesus to save them to Heaven but not from sin. These are the sin-justifying, grace-perverting “ungodly men” Jude warned us about (Jude 4).
The divine declaration that “The wages of sin is death” which means separation from God, appears throughout Scripture (Romans 6:23).
“He that keepeth the commandment keepeth his own soul; but he that despiseth his ways shall die.” Proverbs 19:16
Die or death always means separation.
OSAS/eternal security is a lie from hell. OSAS was Satan’s first lie and so it’s blasphemy to teach this doctrine of devils and claim it’s part of the Gospel. You are attributing Satan’s lie to the LORD Jesus. Repent now sinner. See Genesis 2:17; 3:4; Romans 11:20-22; 1 Timothy 4:1; Hebrews 3:6, 12-14; 10:26-39; 2 Peter 2:20-21; Jude 4, etc..
The concept of an un-conditional eternal security is not established in Scripture … Except for it being Satan’s first teaching, His first lie – the “Ye shall NOT surely die” lie (Genesis 2:17; 3:4).
“Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it; 26 that he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word, 27 that he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.” Ephesians 5:25-27
“Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready. 8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints. 9 And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God.” Revelation 19:7-9
“Having therefore these promises, dearly beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.” 2 Corinthians 7:1
“And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.” 1 John 3:3
“Psalms 51:1-19
Psalm 51: Sweet Perfumes of Penitence
Alexander Maclaren once said, ‘The alchemy of divine love can extract sweet perfumes of penitence and praise out of the filth of sin.’ We have an illustration of this in Psalm 51. As the heading explains, it was written by David after Nathan the prophet had boldly exposed him for committing adultery with Bathsheba and for murdering Uriah. Utterly convicted of his sin, David pours out this torrent of penitence from his broken and contrite heart.” Believer’s Bible Commentary
Read and pray Psalm 51.
Prayer of Returning: Holy Father, You gave all when You gave Your only begotten Son who came and died for our sins. You’ve also called me to lay down my life, to lose my life in this fleeting world. I have not done well at giving over my life to You … You alone who are worthy of my full, unreserved worship. Right this moment I ask You to forgive my sin of having another god before You which is self idolatry and spiritual adultery. I have alienated the affections of my heart away from You LORD and onto myself. For this I ask You to forgive me and I right here and now turn to You Jesus. Right this moment I lay my life in Your holy hands LORD. Into Your hands I submit my spirit – my whole being. Not my will but Thine be done LORD Jesus! I am no longer my own. I am Yours. I am dead and my life is hid with Christ in God. I love You Jesus and am ceaselessly grateful that You bought me with the price of Your own blood! You must increase but I must decrease. I ask You to unite my heart to fear Thy holy name! Teach me daily to lay myself aside and to give the reins over to You! In Jesus’ Name, amen.
Eternal Security/Once saved always saved is a lie from hell.
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Apostasy
“THE GREAT DRAGON” [podcast]
Excerpt from the book Lie of the Ages
Origin of Evil
“And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.” ~ Revelation 12:9
Like it or not, you have a sworn enemy. He has drawn a line in the sand. You are in a war for your eternal soul and you must fight or you will be destroyed.
The introduction to the God of all creation and lover of His highest creation—mankind, is of supreme importance. And so is realizing and understanding the existence of the most wicked and iniquitous being in this universe. He is one of the major themes and realities in this record of mankind’s beginning. The Word of our God unveils creation’s account, leading to our present day and into the eternal future. What is set forth in the book of Genesis would set the stage and affect all of the history that would follow.
This book of origins is about that fatal falsehood which emanates from the Garden where it all began—a garden that was sinless bliss and perfection until the lie was introduced and acted upon by the first two people.
Of this very archenemy of the Most-High, from whom all lies originate, the Word states: “Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God” (Ezek. 28:13). The serpent, animated by the vilest of all beings, was allowed to slither into the innocence and purity that originally existed in the sanctuary of creation. This was due to the fact that perfect divine wisdom has seen fit to allow His creation to have the opportunity of choice between good and evil (Deut. 30:19; Josh. 24:15; Job 12:16; 1 Cor. 11:19).
Satan has a purpose. Since love is volitional by its very nature, our Creator has seen fit to permit this evil and beguiling villain to remain present amidst those professing sanctuary in the LORD. Life on earth is a test for all—all humans are on probation. Love is a choice and so is rebellion. The Maker of all made man with free will so that the choice could be made to love or not to love Him. Among volumes of other Scriptures found in Holy Writ which demonstrate this, the following words from on high make plain that the LORD made Man with free will: “Choose you this day whom ye will serve” (Josh. 24:15).
Such a statement would not have been spoken by the LORD if He had not made man with the ability of choice. Man was created with the ability to “choose” every “day” whom he will serve, and this choice is ongoing while men are upon the earth in this temporal life.
It would be remiss to attempt discussing the very lie of the ages without opening the grand subject of the one whom Christ said was the father (originator) of all lies. Of Satan, the Son of God informed us, as He spoke to the rebellious religionists of His day:
“Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.” ~ John 8:44
All men are born in sin and are “by nature” the “children of disobedience.”
“Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience: Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.” ~ Ephesians 2:2-3
There are, at this moment only two classes of people in the earth—those who have relationship with the One who made us all, and those who don’t. According to this passage (Ephesians 2), all those who have not been brought into the kingdom of God through Christ, have as their father, the devil. The reason the Son of God came to the earth was to sever the ties and claim of Satan from mankind. He came to deliver men from this relationship of fear, domination and bondage that is only enabled by sin.
“To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me.” ~ Acts 26:18
“Who (God the Father) hath delivered us from the power of darkness (Satan), and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son: In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins.” ~ Colossians 1:13-14
The mission of Christ was to reconcile or restore the relationship that had been severed by the sin of the first man and woman which caused death (separation) to fall upon all men, the whole race (Romans 5:12). He fully accomplished His mission and is now seated at His Father’s right hand, enforcing this victory (Heb. 4:14-16; 7:25-26).
From the dawn of the creation and fall of mankind, all evil, tragedy and pain in history has been caused by Satan and enabled by man’s sin (Prov. 26:2). Only the LORD, the One whose holiness is violated when sin is committed, can save, restore and heal (Jer. 17:14; 1 Cor. 15:57; Rev. 21:4).
Victory was obtained through the precious blood of Jesus (1 Pet. 1:18-19). Being forgiven and released from all sin and its evil effects and the dominion of Satan, comes through Christ alone. Jesus utterly conquered His enemy on the cross (Col. 2:13-15; 1 Jn. 3:8). Blessed forgiveness and spiritual power enables the individual disciple to serve the LORD without fear and bondage to sin. Sin enables Satan’s rule and only those who are free from it by Jesus Christ can rule over His enemies (Ps. 8:6; 17:4; Jn. 8:31-36; 1 Jn. 4:4). Christ triumphed over the enemy of all souls with His death on the cross and resurrection from the dead. Read the following passage for all it’s worth:
“For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell; And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven. And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled in the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight: If ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel.” ~ Colossians 1:19-23
The Son of God accomplished complete victory in bringing God and men back into perfect union by “the blood of His cross” (Col. 1:20).
“And you, being dead (separated) in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened (made alive) together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses; Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a show (sport; spectacle) of them openly, triumphing over them in it.” ~ Colossians 2:13-15
The “serpent” who was in the Garden of creation and still “walketh about” in the midst of the earth, is specifically identified as Satan and the devil (1 Pet. 5:8; Rev. 12:9; 20:2). This ultimate enemy of all that is good took control of the serpent in his attack against man. The serpent, animated by the enemy of souls himself, was used as the instrument that led to the fall of mankind and the righteous retribution of the holy Creator. Yet, Jesus Christ accomplished mankind’s redemption through “the blood of His cross” (Col. 1:20).
Know Your Enemy
Allow me to parenthetically say here that if one does not personally believe in a literal devil (Satan) and his insidious work of evil among men, then perhaps that person will do well to begin to search God’s Word for the volumes of Scripture which identify and describe him along with unveiling his wicked purposes. The LORD inspired the Scriptures and has much to say about His enemy—our enemy. It is interesting to discover that the word “devil” appears 57 times in the Bible. The word “Satan” appears 50 times. These are the most utilized terms to describe this darkest of fallen beings, and yet there are several more which identify this enemy of all souls who is the personification of evil, such as “serpent,” and “adversary” (1 Pet. 5:8; Rev. 12:9).
“And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.” ~ Revelation 12:9
His goal may be summed up this way: Satan’s complete and total purpose that underlies all that he does is to cause men to fall from grace just as he himself did and was banished from fellowship with the life-giving God. There is a horrible prison of fire which will be the eternal home of all who leave this earth apart from a personal and intimate relationship with the One who died for sinners.
On Judgment Day, that Great and Terrible Day of separation between the righteous and the unrighteous will include these horrible words “from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away”:
“And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.” ~ Revelation 20:11-15
To those whose existence in this temporal life ends disconnected from the only Savior, the following will be the verdict delivered to them in Judgment: “Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels” (Matt. 25:41).
Hell is a place of indescribably horrid eternal punishment and was created by the LORD for his archenemy and all those who are not His.
Back to the enemy, the one who wants you dead and in hell: “Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour” (1 Pet. 5:8).
One may find great intrigue in uncovering this iniquitous fallen foe and gain much insight into the dark world of demons and deception along with gaining perception into the real battle in the spirit realm that rages over mankind.
“Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.” ~ Ephesians 6:11-12
By the volume of information about His enemy included in His Word, we know that the LORD intended for us to know our enemy—His enemy.
Believers are to give him no place: “Neither give place to the devil” (Eph. 4:27).
Believers are to set themselves against him: “Resist the devil, and he will flee from you” (Jas. 4:7); “Stand against the wiles of the devil” (Eph. 6:11).
Believers are to know his scheming goals and ways and avoid them lest he gain advantage of us: “Lest Satan should get an advantage of us: for we are not ignorant of his devices” (2 Cor. 2:11).
The devil seeks to trip up, war against, wear out and devour the sheep of the LORD’s pasture. He has come to wreak havoc among the Lord’s highest creation: “The thief (devil) cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly” (John 10:10).
Power Over All the Power of the Enemy
Believers are warned to live in obedience to the Word of God in order to escape falling into “the condemnation of the devil” and being caught in “the snare of the devil” or giving an “advantage” to him (1 Tim. 3:6-7; 2 Tim. 2:26; 2 Cor. 2:11).
The enemy of our souls prospers through the ignorance of God’s people—he is shut out and his work nullified by the knowledge and obedience of God’s people.
“By the word of thy lips I have kept me from the paths of the destroyer.” ~ Psalms 17:4
“He that dwelleth in the secret place of the most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty.” ~ Psalms 91:1
Disciples of Jesus are kept from being destroyed by the enemy in obeying the Word of God. Holy Writ informs us that Jesus came to successfully “destroy the works of the devil” and that “greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world” (1 Jn. 3:8; 4:4).
Christ promised power to those who are truly His:
“And the seventy returned again with joy, saying, Lord, even the devils are subject unto us through thy name. And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven. Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you. Notwithstanding in this rejoice not, that the spirits are subject unto you; but rather rejoice, because your names are written in heaven.” ~ Luke 10:17-20
Jesus Christ, the eternal Word, became flesh so that He might destroy the works of the enemy of our souls:
“Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil.” ~ Hebrews 2:14
Believers are told to be of a sober mind and diligent in light of the proactive and evil plans of Satan to destroy them:
“Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour: Whom resist stedfast in the faith, knowing that the same afflictions are accomplished in your brethren that are in the world”. ~ 1 Peter 5:8-9
Here’s what the Bible says about Satan’s work in the last days:
“Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.” Revelation 12:12
As foretold here, the work of the evil one is accelerating in this late hour before the destruction of all rebellion and return of our LORD Jesus Christ.
The Alpha and Omega is coming back, and His enemy’s end is sure:
“And the God of peace shall bruise Satan under your feet shortly. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you. Amen.” ~ Romans 16:20
“And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years, And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.” ~ Revelation 20:2-3
“And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.” ~ Revelation 20:10
Surrounded and Outnumbered
Elisha’s servant was brought to the understanding that there are more angels of God with God’s children than there are fallen angels who rebelled:
“And when the servant of the man of God was risen early, and gone forth, behold, an host compassed the city both with horses and chariots. And his servant said unto him, Alas, my master! how shall we do? And he (the prophet Elisha) answered, Fear not: for they that be with us are more than they that be with them. And Elisha prayed, and said, LORD, I pray thee, open his eyes, that he may see. And the LORD opened the eyes of the young man; and he saw: and, behold, the mountain was full of horses and chariots of fire round about Elisha.” ~ 2 Kings 6:15-17
The one who is following Christ need not fear. LORD Jesus open our eyes! Nothing has changed—there are “more” angels of the LORD “with us…than they that be with them (the enemy).” The saints of the Most High are promised protection and His angels are part of that plan.
“Are they (God’s angels) not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation.” ~ Hebrews 1:14
“The angel of the LORD encampeth round about them that fear him, and delivereth them.” ~ Psalms 34:7
In Heaven and in eternity past, two-thirds of the then-angelic beings remained under the command and blessing of the Almighty, while a third chose to depart with Lucifer and are forever alienated from the Most High. Let’s take a glimpse into a war that took place in Heaven in eternity past, a war that has great impact today:
“And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night. And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death. Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time. ~ Revelation 12:7-12
It would remain difficult to understand this life and present world system, and the world to come if one were to pass lightly over this war of wars that occurred (took place) in Heaven. When we begin to delve into the data given in this matter, understanding comes of our great God and His arch adversary. Enlightenment and understanding into the 6,000 years of mankind’s history open to us when we know what preceded this time period. Knowledge into what we are told prophetically is transpiring before our very eyes. As we are seeing, the Holy Scriptures reveal much about that dark and sinister being called “Satan” and the “devil” who is and will have a large part to play in the fulfillment of prophecy. Although his rebellion against the Almighty began in eternity past, the serpent’s workings among men began in the Garden of Eden. He crept in to accomplish his wicked agenda. He has seemingly succeeded for this moment, yet the divine promise is that his time is running short. “The devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time” (Rev. 12:12).
The First Fall-Out: Eternal Termination
We all understand what it means when someone says, “John and Mark had a falling-out.” This means they were friends or business partners, and then because of some disagreement, they parted company and are no longer friends. Well, the first falling-out occurred between the Almighty and Lucifer. The angel Lucifer fell out of the favor of God and consequently fell out of Heaven. Of Lucifer’s ejection from Heaven, the Son of God stated: “I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven” (Lk. 10:18).
The evil one was evicted from Heaven when he turned against God. Originally, he was a good angel, “the anointed cherub,” who led the worship of the Almighty, until the day that “iniquity was found” in him (Ezek. 28:14-15). Lucifer, who became Satan and the devil, led a third of the angels of the Most-High God in rebellion against Him. “And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth” (Rev. 12:4).
Ultimately, all deception and all lies have their origin in this greatest of all enemies who brought about the sin and fall of mankind and wages war today against the Almighty’s highest creation (mankind). Of Satan, the Son of God said: “for he is a liar, and the father of it” (Jn. 8:44). He also informed us that this supreme adversary has come to do three things— “to steal, to kill, and to destroy” (Jn. 10:10). He wages war against God and His people. He is defined as and called “the accuser of our brethren” (Rev. 12:10).
Satan is a real being. He is not a figment of someone’s imagination. In fact, anyone who is convinced of such has already been conquered by his deception. He is forever the sworn enemy of the LORD, and will ultimately be put away for good, never again to tempt another soul to rebel against the Maker of all that is. “And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever” (Rev. 20:10).
The one who studies the Word of God will gain priceless insight into the reasons for the current condition of the world, and, into the future blessedness of all those who know and follow the One who bled to save us from God’s holy wrath against sin and Satan (Rom. 5:9). In fact, a divine blessing is pronounced upon all who read and obey the words of Holy Scripture: “Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand” (Rev. 1:3).
PRAYER: Holy Father in Heaven, please bless me to know You more and to be kept from the evil one and his wicked schemes against Your people. Right this moment I ask You for and receive a fresh cleansing of all my sins by the blood of Jesus Christ my LORD and Savior, whereby I am blessed to overcome, along with the word of my testimony of how you have washed and delivered me. I declare afresh and aloud, right this second, if never before, that Jesus Christ is LORD of my life, and He alone will I worship and serve. Glory to His precious Name! In the name of Jesus Christ, Amen.
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Apostasy
The Deaths of Voddie Baucham vs Charlie Kirk [podcast]
Yes it’s an amazing impact and effect God is doing in the lives of so many through Charlie Kirk’s life and death. Undeniable. His life wasn’t perfect, neither was Abraham’s, Rahab’s, Noah’s, Moses, Samson, Peter…. etc. God has each of them with Him now. Dare you pretend to self righteously pretend to be wiser and more just than the Almighty? You’ve been telling everyone else to repent and yet perhaps now it’s your time to obey the LORD’s command to repent (Acts 17:30).
Compare how people are reacting to Voddie Baucham vs how they are reacting to the death of Charlie Kirk.
Interestingly, some of the same people condemning Charlie Kirk listen to Voddie Baucham.
A simple search confirms Voddie Baucham’s Calvinism. He died a heretic. He never renounced the false teachings of Clvinism. In contrast Charlie Kirk denounced bribe money, Catholicism. My inclination is to blast Catholics but Charlie Kirk’s method was much wiser… and so he retained the ear and attention of the Catholics which has and will continue to lead many to Christ. My own family member is now saved due to Charlie Kirk.
The error man can do does not negate the WORD of God, the truth that the same man may have spoken – because GOD’s Word shall always “accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.”
“So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.” Isaiah 55:11
Judas was sent by Jesus to preach the Gospel, heal the sick, raise the dead, etc. See Matthew 10:1-8. Then after that, Judas sinned and betrayed the Son of God. Should we believe that Judas’ sin thereafter somehow negates, does away with the work God accomplished through him previous to his rebellion?
Now I hear and heard Charlie saying he salutes the Mormons due to their sending missionaries all over the world, etc. Not good. I don’t think Charlie knew the slightest bit about what Mormons really believe. I remember after being saved that I thought Mormons were just another Christian group, till I was pulled aside and enlightened by true disciples. Had Charlie been enlightened to what Mormonism really is, he’d have denounced them as he did the Catholic church, who he started out believing were true. He later found out what they believed and denounced it. Is it a sin to be immature in the faith, to not understand everything? No. If that were the case why would God have ever address those immature in the faith? Hebrews 5:11-14; 1 John 2:14
Has God used you?
Does God use imperfect vessels?
Surely you wouldn’t claim sinless perfection, would you? (Job 9:20; Proverbs 20:9; 1 John 1:8-10)
Isn’t finishing strong in faith in Christ what is most important? Yes (2 Timothy 4:6-8).
What about Noah who got drunk? (Genesis 9:21)
How about Abraham who lied and even adulterated with his Egyptian handmaid? (Genesis 16)
What about Moses who killed a man and also struck the rock instead of speaking to it as God instructed him to do? (Numbers 20)
How about David who committed adultery with Bathsheba and then had her husband murdered and then sought a cover up? (2 Samuel 11-12).
No this does not justify sin and yet, God is just and holy and yet He’s merciful to His own, as they repent (Psalms 103:10-12).
Can you disprove the veracity of the above?
“Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.” 2 Timothy 2:19
Charlie Kirk vs Vodie Bauchum
Bauchum, like Washer, Piper, and MacArthur, spent his life pushing Calvinism, a false system of theology. Every false teacher shall have eternal “damnation” (2 Peter 2:1-3).
Voddie was close friends and Calvinist ministry cohorts with the likes of Paul Washer, John Piper, and John MacAthur, all Calvinist heretic false teachers. See Ezekiel 22:25-27.
The Idiocy of Calvinism
Some claim that Charlie Kirk pushed a false Christianity. Is that true?
In my opinion, Sam Adams seems to have no joy, the fruit of the Spirit…. (Galatians 5:22-23). He’s reading from a script in this video. Just because someone is exposing something doesn’t mean they are in the truth and giving a fair, thorough, just assessment of such. I’m not buying into Sam’s version of this. The facts seem to reveal something different. Sam is a hardshell baptist type and though he’s said some good things, he seems to be going dark. Remember, Sam Adams teaches the heresy of OSAS/eternal security, which was Satan’s first lie and it led to the fall of mankind then and is now doing so (Genesis 2:17; 3:4). The facts seem to indicate that Charlie finished in the faith. He rejected Catholicism and other cultic persuasions. Where were the Sam Adam’s when the young man was being misled? Were they reaching out to help him as did Aquilla and Priscilla when they encountered the young man Apollos when he needed help in maturing in Christ? Acts 18. Be careful what you listen to saints. | Eternal Security is a Life from Hell
Wisdom sees beyond the surface. Charlie was a young man whose discernment was very shallow at best. In the end, he died in the faith, declaring that it’s all about Jesus and that Jesus died for our sins to give us eternal life. Like Samson his life was spotted as are all of our lives. He defended the Bible and faith against a Mormon who was trying to convert him, literally seconds before he was assassinated. A month before that he denounced Catholicism as false. What many fail to understand is that every evil system of antichrists will come after those who have a platform, so that they can have that platform, they can seize that opportunity to get their evil message to the masses. The facts reveal that Charlie was gaining traction against these evil systems and that’s why they murdered him. He hard rejected, turned down $150 million to compromise with Israel. That’s the fair fruit we should see him by it seems (Matthew 7:16, 20).
Samson finished strong
“And what shall I more say? for the time would fail me to tell of Gedeon, and of Barak, and of Samson, and of Jephthae; of David also, and Samuel, and of the prophets:” Hebrews 11:32
Reminder: The thief on the cross lived a whole life of sin. In his dying moment he called on Jesus and was forgiven, pardoned, and promised paradise. He’s been there with Jesus and the saints for 2,000 years (Luke 23:42-43).
“Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; 6 Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.” 1 Timothy 2:4-6
Are we underestimating the mercy of God for “all men”? Are we looking for ways to exclude eternal souls from His kingdom? If YOU died right now, would there be things you did that people could isolate and blow up into a huge issue and yet ignore that you died in faith, you died in the faith?
“For he shall have judgment without mercy, that hath shewed no mercy; and mercy rejoiceth against judgment.” James 2:13
Have you fought a good fight? Have you fought a perfect fight, a fight with no sinful set backs?
Who did Jesus say was seeking to sift the apostle Peter?
“And the Lord said, Simon, Simon, behold, SATAN hath desired to have you, that he may sift you as wheat: 32 But I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not: and when thou art converted, strengthen thy brethren.” Luke 22:31-32
This reveals to us that Satan who “walketh about seeking whom he may devour”—seeks to devour, to swallow up, to sift all who are in Christ—just as he did with Peter the apostle of Christ (1 Peter 5:8).
After being sifted by Satan and sinning, Peter was then restored to the LORD and soon after went forth to preach to 8,000 people who all repented and received Christ! See Acts 2-4.
As a recent example, do we think from the evidence that Satan sought to sift, to seduce, to devour Charlie Kirk? Yes he did and yet it seems that as it was with the case with Jesus and Peter, Charlie finished in faith.
Some choose to emphasize the things Charlie seemed to dabble in and yet ultimately openly forsook (Catholicism, compromising for money, etc.). They are dead set on him being in hell. They just can’t seem to get past his vulnerableness to temptation and sin, so easily forgetting all the temptation and sin God has saved them from AFTER He saved them.
SOMEONE might say “they are a MASON”! Even when there is no real proof and fruit that says otherwise. Well I was worse, a CATHOLIC! Which is a worse system. I was farther from God but not unreachable by Him. Thank You Jesus for finding and saving this wretch!
Is there more proof that Charlie Kirk was a mason or a Christian?
There are only 2 types of people on earth—saved and unsaved! Lost or found. Washed in the blood or not!
God is able.
None of us are the Savior (Luke 19:10).
God is love. God is holy. God is merciful. God is just.
One of the final things Charlie Kirk stated before he was assassinated. He could have said ANYTHING and here’s what he chose to say. Matthew 12:34 anyone? Jesus says we know people “by their fruit” and not by what some others are saying (Matthew 7:16, 20). Sticking with the facts.
Solomon had 1,000 women right?
What did he say of women?
“Every wise woman buildeth her house: but the foolish plucketh it down with her hands.” Proverbs 14:1
“Which yet my soul seeketh, but I find not: one man among a thousand have I found; but a woman among all those have I not found.” Ecclesiastes 7:28
Have we seen anything of overt wickedness with Charlie Kirk? He was being courted, played, seduced by the enemy of souls and yet seemed to finish in faith as did Samson after a life of inconsistency. He did this while being surrounded by evil doers.
The fact that no one from TPUSA is calling for a real investigation is beyond suspicious in my opinion.
I don’t trust nor like Erika or any woman at the helm .
It appears possible that God blessed what Charlie did for HIM. The others were riding on God’s blessing upon Charlie. It’s all too typical to see that the pride of men leads them to believe they can do better, in this case, better than Charlie. We can count on this being a catastrophe as it always is. Perhaps they thought that getting rid of Charlie would be the best move (John 16:1-2). It seems now that these evil doers who surrounded Charlie will make a mess of TPusa. It will be controlled by Netanyahu and/or other evil interests. It seems plausible that they murdered him in order to take over his organization, just like Jezebel had her husband Ahab murder Naboth, murdered to take over his land. They offered him a sum of money to purchase his vineyard, but Naboth refused the money and so they murdered him to get his land. See 1 Kings 21. In this case apparently Netanyahu offered $150 million to Charlie Kirk for influence over TPUSA. Charlie refused the money and many believe it was his Israeli security detail that killed him.
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