The fall out, the delusion of fools.
PEOPLE crying out to the LORD is beyond precious and yet, we must beware of the wolves in sheep’s clothing in our midst that Jesus and His holy apostles continually warned us about – who “lie in wait to deceive” – to insert themselves, who usurp a place of interception, where they interject poison for their own self-serving agenda, to intercept the affection of the hearts of men (Ephesians 4:14; Colossians 2:18-19).
“That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive; 15 But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:” Ephesians 4:14-15
THE TEST: If it’s a move of God, sin, repentance, hell, holiness, judgment to come, Jesus Christ, and the cross He commanded we take up daily WILL BE PREACHED!
“Revival” as the word is used among church leaders, is an indu$try to them – something they concoct, fabricate, and perpetrate on the people! Beware saints. These same men are not calling men to repentance, to the cross, to be set apart holy to the LORD. Therefore their enterprises are not legitimate, are not a true move of God. They emphasize and use the fanfare to draw the gullible to their “revivals” to win them to their fraud movements and organizations and churches.
Just what are people being won into?
“Any objection to the carryings on of our present golden-calf Christianity is met with the triumphant reply, ‘But we are winning them!’ And winning them to what? To true discipleship? To cross-carrying? To self-denial? To separation from the world? To crucifixion of the flesh? To holy living? To nobility of character? To a despising of the world’s treasures? To hard self-discipline? To love for God? To total committal to Christ? Of course, the answer to all these questions is no.” From chapter 30 of “Man – The Dwelling Place of God” by A.W. Tozer (1960)
From an eye witness to the sodomy at Asbury:
“Thank you. This is an eye witness to the sodomy at Asbury. Anyone who still defends this abomination called Asbury “revival” is an antichrist. 100%.”
The separation is a blessing (Matt 10:34) and is ordained. We are seeing those whose hearts, consciences are captive to the WORD of God and those who are in rebellion – “NOT of God” (John 8:47). This is not even close. For weeks now this type of exposure has been coming out in the open and STILL those who defended this demonic staged delusion are defending it. They are “NOT of God” according to Jesus (John 8:47).
The word “revival” appears nowhere in God’s Word. “Repent” or “Repentance” appear 72 times. Let’s get a clue. This is a message in and of itself. We don’t need man’s staged “revivals,” we need to repent before a Holy God!
“The purpose of worship is not to obtain an emotional high, to placate the flesh or be entertained. It’s not a theater stage for dramatics or performance. The purpose of worship is to honor, glorify, and praise our holy God ‘in spirit and in truth (John 4:23-24).'” Unknown
It’s only the biblically illiterate who are also rebels, lawless, and refusing to seek God in HIS Word for themselves, who get gleeful when they hear that a new “Jesus” or “Bible” movie from heretics and Catholics is coming out. Laughably delusional. Hell awaits. 2 Thessalonians 2. Read it. KJB. They have openly rejected the knowledge of God.
“My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because THOU HAS REJECTED KNOWLEDGE, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law (Word) of thy God, I will also forget thy children.” Hosea 4:6
I am thinking, in my limited scope, that perhaps we have made “revival” out to be something we do not see in Scripture. The Word never even appears. “Revive” does, and re-vive or resurrection, re-filling with life, comes when we are crucified, dead and buried with Christ. Yet the cross is never even mentioned in what is being called “revival.” The whole industry of “revival” doesn’t seem to fit with what we see in the history of the early church. Firstly, can a group of men just decide to stage a “revival” by planning it and promoting it and saying that there’s going to be a “revival” as if men control such? And, in these “revivals” it’s all about the Holy Ghost and not Jesus. Huge red flag, right? Read John 16:13-14.
It’s never coming out of the WORD itself and it’s always about the men and their supposed mission and never about Christ. It’s all about the idol “revival.” People travel across the country to get some feeling and yet, now we know that any spirit giving people those feelings, was not the Holy Ghost at Asbury – a sodomite camp that has a satanic labyrinth on campus. It was “another spirit” which is a devil (2 Corinthians 11:2-4; Galatians 1:6-9).
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“The great falling away will happen because of the shallowness of these false revivals not producing anything of any substance. People are going to become delusioned because there was no change or conviction. Because they were not based on the word of God producing repentance which produces changed lives.” Darrel Moore
REPLY:
Yes, we are seeing what seems the fulfillment of 2 Thessalonians 2, where the “strong delusion” is right in the midst of that which claims to be Christ’s body. No doubt Paul’s tears and anguish were over the LORD showing him that wolves were coming from within to mislead sheep away from Christ (Acts 20:29-32).
Division, the Dividing Sword – Matthew 10:34
“There is a big difference in ‘all HAVE sinned’ and those who continue to practice sin while claiming to be a preacher or evangelist! Seriously, I am so sick of that mantra being used (by wolf defenders) anytime a watchman does their job and warns!” Gloria Marshall Sykes
“The sheep and the goats are being decisively separated in the church today as we speak. The end times that we are in is characterized by the great falling away, not a time of ‘revival’.” Barbara
The cry echoed by a myriad of wolves is “The church needs a revival,” and yet repentance is seldom mentioned. Think: Why would they bother mentioning repentance when they never mention sin? There are 17 soul damning sins specifically cited in Galatians 5:19-21 alone. Many are gullibly buying into the “The church needs a revival” without testing who is saying this nor comparing it to the Word of God (Acts 17:10-11; 2 Timothy 2:15). The first word and divine command of the original Gospel is “Repent” (Matthew 3:2; 4:17; Acts 2:38; 3:19, etc.). So, this begs the question: WHAT are they reviving people into? WHAT are they reviving in people? WHAT are they winning people to? It certainly can’t be that people are being won to Christ when it’s not His Gospel being preached but rather “another gospel” (2 Corinthians 11:2-5; Galatians 1:6-9).
The following New Testament essential, preached by Christ and His holy apostles as an imperative, will never be heard in the vast majority of modern churches or any of these fake “revivals.”
“Bring forth therefore fruits meet for (proving, consistent with) repentance: 9 And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham. 10 And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.” Matthew 3:8-10
Clear proof that true and imperative repentance will always bring forth the fruit of holiness, a set apart life.
Memory verse:
“He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall have mercy.” Proverbs 28:13
Confessing AND forsaking our sins proves we’ve repented. Anything short of overcoming reveals the absence of true repentance and the crucified life.
Let’s cease making claims when there’s no evidence of the delusions we believe. Stop it. JUST because YOU want something to be true, DOES NOT make it true. Repent.
The Jesus Revolution is just the latest “I-want-it-to-be-true-because-i’m-too-lazy-to-read-God’s-Word-for-myself” movie deception.
Claiming that those who don’t like your latest little “Jesus” movie are pharisees seems no different than clue-less, debunked Democrats saying conservatives are “racist”….. all for not agreeing with their conclusions. Discernment is biblical, not pharisaical. It is the mandate of God for His true disciples (Matthew 7:16, 20; Acts 17:10-11; Romans 16:17-18; Jude 3-4; Revelation, etc.).
At this point it is becoming increasingly obvious that the prophesied great apostasy is coming from within professing Christianity. Read 2 Thessalonians 2. All the high staged “Christian” sources are promoting it. But does that make it legit, of God? No! (Luke 6:26.)
No great awakening or great revival is coming. The Bible foretold the great falling away. Read 2 Thessalonians and cease following mere men (Isaiah 2:22).
AND all this fanfare is for no small purpose, and the agenda is to deceive if it were possible, the very elect (Matthew 24:21-24).
We just saw, in living color, out in the open for all to see…. WHO is “of God” and who among us is “NOT of God” (John 8:47). This was a test run – and all who will bow to the antichrist were made manifest for all to see (1 Corinthians 11:19). A few will repent and the rest will remain in darkness and plunge headlong and irrevocably into the flames of eternal damnation for loving darkness rather than light, for not choosing the fear of the LORD (John 3:19-21; Proverbs 1:29).
HAVE YOU noticed the crickets? WE are now marked safe from the demonic hoards who came out of the woodwork to defend a 100% clearly proven debunked “revival.” Few if any have openly admitted they were wrong. Soul damning pride, arrogance. The LORD saw how bold they were to defend the works of His very enemies and yet say nothing against those works of darkness now that they are openly exposed.
Biblical truth: From the beginning, God ordained that His people learn of Him via HIS words and not a movie, “revival,” or a production, or anything else produced by sinful men (Deuteronomy 4:1-10; John 5:39-40; 2 Timothy 2:15, etc.). The written Word is where we have the perfect, permanent, portrait of our LORD. It’s beyond gullible to think that sinful men can depict the image and doctrine of the infinite Almighty God. God’s Word reveals that “Holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost” and that’s how we were given the very Word of our God which “is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness” (2 Timothy 3:16; 2 Peter 1:19-21). THAT’s where so many are deceived. If they were truly saved, they’d be in the Word, and would not be falling for every wind of false doctrine coming down the pike via wolves in sheep’s clothing. True elders in Christ’s body are diligently grounding souls in the Word of God itself – so that they are healthy and growing in Christ, protected, and speaking the Word of God. Read Ephesians 4:11-15.
WITH no exception, anyone being used of God is grounding their audience in the final divine authority of God’s written Word (2 Timothy 3:16-17; 2 Peter 1:19-21, etc.). All others are frauds.
Lynne Parker writes:
“Christians will be tried by the Word in this hour. There is no more riding the fence or taking a neutral position. God Himself will place us all in a position to stand or fall according to the Word. “Deception” and its sister “delusion” are gripping the Body of Christ, and like a dark cloud it is covering the land. The false dominion (NAR) theology and signs and wonders movement has effectively conditioned multitudes to forsake the authority of God’s Word and embrace their subjective feelings as guidance in discernment concerns. But in these latter days only those who divorce their feelings and trust only in God’s Word and have developed a love for the truth will overcome the devil’s schemes. Sadly many will be lost – it’s unfolding right before us.”
What has come to light in this separation of the sheep and goats, the wheat and the tares….
“Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.” Proverbs 16:18
ANYONE who doesn’t presently have and hold God’s written Word as the final divine authority of their life, is “NOT of God” (John 8:47). To date, such rebels have foolishly, arrogantly sought to elevate their puny-ness above or on the same level as the Most High. Pride causes fallen men to be wise in their own conceit (Proverbs 16:18).
“Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. 6 In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths. 7 Be not wise in thine own eyes: fear the LORD, and depart from evil.” Proverbs 3:5-7
Why would we question God?
“Woe unto him that striveth with his Maker! Let the potsherd strive with the potsherds of the earth. Shall the clay say to him that fashioneth it, What makest thou? or thy work, He hath no hands?” Isaiah 45:9
Like their father the devil, pride will be the eternal undoing of all who do not hearken to, learn, and live the words of God (Isaiah 14:12-15; Ezekiel 28:12-19; Luke 10:18; Revelation 12:7-12). It’s an open book test – the books shall soon be opened to judge the wicked (Revelation 20:11-15).
“Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else.” Isaiah 45:22
EVERY person who bought the lies of Asbury, He Gets Us, the Jesus Revolution, or The Chosen, does NOT hold God’s Word as final divine authority. They live by their own feelings instead because they are “(..enemies of the cross of Christ: Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things.)” In other words, they are full of self and rejected by the Savior.
“(For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ: 19 Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things.)” Philippians 3:18-19
FLASH POINT: Nothing is “biblical,” or “is of God” just because it made You, a sinner, to feel good (John 8:47). Repent now – you are an antichrist who is living in the flesh (Romans 8:5-6; Philippians 3:18-19).
IF the name of Jesus Christ, His Gospel, His words, if sin, repentance, the cross, judgment, and holiness aren’t being preached, it’s NOT of God! (See John 8:47.) It’s a revival of deception, not truth! Mark these vile wolves (Romans 16:17-18).
Any person who thought this was a move of God has got a wake up call – but only if you seize the moment. You are in big trouble, in deep darkness, and in utter need of true repentance, fasting and prayer, and getting in the Word (KJB) like your life depends upon it – because it does. Otherwise the flames of eternal damnation shall feed upon your rebellious soul. Repent now. Re-turn to Christ with absolute reckless abandon!
To a lady who is insisting that this scam “revival” is true, based on her own feelings, using not even one Bible verse, the following reply was given:
You are plainly resting your case upon and admitting you are trusting in your own heart and feelings and not God’s Word (Proverbs 28:26), which apparently you do not know and will be “destroyed” if you don’t repent (Hosea 4:6). Are you going to blasphemously claim that God is blessing what He calls an “abomination”? See Leviticus 18:22; Romans 1.
To those still daring to defend the works of Satan (Asbury, the Jesus Revolution, The Chosen, He Gets Us)….while claiming to be saved: Do you care what the BIBLE says? According to Jesus, such proves if we are “of God” or “NOT of God” (John 8:47). How can people possibly defend something like this – just because it makes THEM feel good? Simple: They have refused to truly repent, die to self, take up the cross, and follow Jesus in the crucified life and so they serve the god of self (Matthew 16:24-25; Galatians 2:20; 6:14; Philippians 3:18-19, etc.).
It simply doesn’t matter how many gullible, biblically-illiterate people attempt to prop it up, Asbury simply, clearly, miserably fails the biblical test for a move of God (Acts 17:10-11; 1 Thessalonians 5:21, etc.). No Bible. No repentance. No mention of Jesus Christ. Overt celebration of the “abomination” of sodomy (Leviticus 18:22), etc.
The frenzy, fanfare, and pandemonium of the fake “revivals” is all about the revival itself… and not JESUS CHRIST (Colossians 2:8-10, 18-19). The feeling, the experience, is what is promoted and magnified, never Christ Himself. This is 100% “the spirit of antichrist” – anti means in place of. Jesus is not only demoted, He’s never even mentioned in these fraud “revivals.”
Have you ever noticed that when there are fake revivals the idol is actually the revival itself and the supposed feeling people are getting and it’s never based on or grounded and centered upon the Word of God? They barely opened the Bible at Asbury and when they did it was a fake lame satanically corrupted version.
You Still Going to Claim Asbury wasn’t Staged?
More egg on the face of those who insist that Asbury was a move of God. What are the chances…. unless it’s all contrived?
More proof Asbury was staged. This current “revival” at Asbury began in February 2023. And, what are the chances of this “God revival” in the same month, each time it happened with the exemption of once in the neighboring month? Hmmmmm. This is from the Asbury Seminary website:
NEW THOUGHTS ABOUT ASBURY:
BACKFIRES ARE A REALITY – ALWAYS HAVE BEEN!
The greatest backfire in history is when the antichrists, the enemies of the LORD Almighty crucified the LORD Jesus who was to their horror raised again from the dead whereby death, hell, the grave, and Satan were defeated! (See Colossians 2:14-19; Hebrews 2:9, 14-15.) Jesus defeated death BY DYING – whereby He shed His precious blood on that cross, was buried, and resurrected – which was the greatest event in human history!
“The princes of this world” in the verse below refer to demonic spirit beings in the heavenlies and to their human agents on earth (Ephesians 6:12).
“Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.” 1 Corinthians 2:8
“They didn’t understand the hidden wisdom of God (Christ on a cross) or realize that their murder of the Holy Son of God would result in their own destruction. Had they known the ways of God, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.” Believer’s Bible Commentary
Applying the Backfire Principle (reality) to What’s Transpiring Today
COULD IT BE possible that these fake revivals will result in a backfire on Satan and his evil human agents? One thing is for certain, people are hungry for God…. they know something is missing in their lives.
People seeking God, hungering for what is missing in their lives – JESUS – is a blessing. Yet wolves who capitalize upon, who exploit, and make merchandise of these people is diabolical! (See Matthew 21:15-17; 2 Peter 2:1-3, etc..)
AND, you and I, Christ’s disciples are to be blessed, busy with communicating His whole-counsel truth to them, showing them via the 10 Commandments how they’ve sinned against God and are in need of REPENTANCE and to RECEIVE Christ who died, was buried, and raised again from the dead to justify them (Acts 2:38; 3:19; 20:21; John 1:12; Romans 10:9-13).
“Asbury celebrates the abomination of Rome called the eucharist- with openly gay people without any shame or fear of God. Rome lets gay, pedophile PRIESTS conduct what should be a holy “remembrance” of the death of Christ, but the great harlot decided to pervert the remembrance into a trans-Jesus WAFER GOD. Apostate churches fellowship with sodomites as if they are on the narrow road to heaven. They assure hell-bound sinners “peace and safety,” and “No evil will come upon you”; “Ye shall not surely die” if you “Do what thou wilt” contrary to Christ’s commands. They don’t cast known fornicators or pedophiles out till they repent, as commanded (1 Corinthians 5). They are proud of their FALSE LOVE spirit of Jezebel, teaching fornication and sacrificing to devils is acceptable by their heinous example. They cover the sins of pedophile priests by moving them to a different parish so they may continue abusing boys undetected.” AR
If Fox and CBN are promoting it, what does that tell us?
SO God is now putting His blessing on a camp that is promoting what He calls an “abomination” – homsexuality? (See Leviticus 18:22.) Hmmmmm. More paid cri.si.s actors? Time to wake up people. Read the Bible, the King James Bible. WHAT “spirit”? “Another spirit” (Galatians 1:6-9; 2 Corinthians 11:2-5).
There is No Cross at Asbury and on this fact alone, it’s a false revival.
Can there be TRUE reviving? YES! AND true reviving – resurrection, only comes from God when His child chooses to die the death – to be daily crucified and buried with Christ (2 Corinthians 4:10-12). God raises no one up who doesn’t choose to die downward! Any supposed “revival” that doesn’t have the cross of Jesus Christ at the center of it is absolutely false. And so anyone being led to promote or defend it is under the power of a deceiving spirit, the spirit of antichrist. Repent now. Turn to the LORD Himself for real. Lay down your life in this fleeting world and abandon yourself to the One who made you and came and died the redeeming death, was buried, was raised again from the dead, and is coming back for His own!
God says we’re fools if we believe He’s going to raise up someone who’s not dead and buried.
“Thou fool, that which thou sowest is not quickened (resurrected, revived), except it die:” 1 Corinthians 15:36
God raises up – revives – no one who isn’t dying downward! Read Romans 6 each morning this week. Die to self. Crucify the lusts of the flesh and walk with Jesus in the Spirit (Galatians 5:16-24).
The LORD is not going to raise someone upward – revive them – who doesn’t repent and die to self. So, any supposed “revival” that doesn’t have the cross of Christ at the forefront is a false revival. 100%.
If there is no cross in the message, there is no Gospel. It’s a false gospel, “another gospel” (2 Corinthians 11:2-5; Galatians 1:6-9).
WHERE O WHERE is the cross in today’s modern church world? If you aren’t hearing it constantly, run for your life. You are sitting under those who are the very “enemies of the cross of Christ: 19 Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly.”
“(For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ: 19 Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things.)” Philippians 3:18-19
WHERE is the cross being preached at Asbury – the blood of His cross and the one He commanded you to take up daily? Read Luke 9:23-24; Colossians 1:20. IT’S NOWHERE TO BE FOUND AT ASBURY – and so any and every person who condoned this atrocity is guilty of using the name of the LORD in vain and in need of repentance, now.
Coming out of Her is a divine mandate, a necessity to be saved!
“Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? 15 And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? 16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. 17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you, 18 And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.” 2 Corinthians 6:14-18
False prophets speak about love and unity – yet it’s never verbalized by them that the only unity the true body of Christ has is with those who also rest in, embrace, live out and hold to the final divine authority of God’s written Word. All other unity is false, fleshly unity. True servants of the LORD speak about Jesus Christ and His redemption, the blood of Jesus, holiness, the cross, judgment, sin, repentance, being ready for the return of Christ, and truth. Beware.
“The elder unto the wellbeloved Gaius, whom I love in the TRUTH. 2 Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in health, even as thy soul prospereth. 3 For I rejoiced greatly, when the brethren came and testified of the TRUTH that is in thee, even as thou walkest in the TRUTH. 4 I have no greater joy than to hear that my children walk in TRUTH.” 3 John 1-4
In His prayer to the Father, Jesus makes it clear that His Word, the exclusive island of His truth, is where His saints are sanctified – where they are set apart as His special, only bride. All others are outside of His kingdom.
“Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.” John 17:17
The primary way God leads His New Testament body is by His written Word. His true disciples have no unity with those who are not born again AND presently abiding, walking by and in the record of Holy Scripture (Psalms 119:105; John 10:35; 2 Timothy 3:15-17; 2 Peter 1:3-4; 12-21, etc.).
Jesus teaches us that real change and the “manifest” presence of the LORD only come to those who embrace His Word, who love, worship, and obey Christ (John 8:47; 14:21-23). These blessings don’t come from going to a supposed “revival” and praising and worshipping the LORD endlessly. There is no magic bullet in Christ’s kingdom but there is a cross to be born, “daily” (Luke 9:23-24). Out of that abiding relationship with Christ, practically walking with Him daily will be the progression of “fruit… more fruit, much fruit” produced in our lives (John 15). Time to get into the trenches and stop buying Satan’s lies. The cross, the trench equals your own death and burial and guarantees the resurrection of Christ – raising you in His glory, His grace, His power, and His victory! Read 2 Corinthians 4:10-12.
“I asked one of the revival faithful to share at least one real testimony and was attacked in an accusatory way…no true testimonies are available apparently.” Barbara
DOES GOD want to pour out His Spirit on His people? YES! (Book of Acts!) The LORD desires to pour out His Holy Ghost and yet, how do we behold Him doing that in His Word? See John 14:21-23 if you want more of Jesus, the Father, and the Holy Ghost. We know it’s not the LORD pouring out His Holy Spirit on any person, movement, or assembly where HIS WORD is not clearly honored at the forefront of it all, the groundwork of that working of His Spirit. Those who honor God honor His Word – otherwise they despise the Almighty and are antichrists.
“He that is OF GOD heareth (Honors, esteems, holds to, obeys) God’s words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are NOT OF GOD.” John 8:47
When and every time God’s Word is not front and center, no matter what’s done, it’s “another spirit” flooding that atmosphere on the wings of the rebels who preach “another gospel” which is elevating “another Jesus” which is a demon. “Seducing spirits (demons) and doctrines of devils” are inseparably intertwined.
“Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; 2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;” 1 Timothy 4:1-2
Acts 17
On Mars’ Hill, the apostle Paul “preached unto them Jesus, and the resurrection” (v18), and then he preached on their sin of idolatry (v29), then he preached that “God…now commandeth all men every where to repent” (v30). And he preached “judgment to come” (v31; Acts 24:25).
The result:
“So Paul departed from among them. 34 Howbeit certain men clave unto him, and believed: among the which was Dionysius the Areopagite, and a woman named Damaris, and others with them.” Acts 17:33-34
Beware of the Cessasionists
Beware of those counterfeits who come in on the wings of an obviously fake revival and blaspheme the LORD by taking away from His stated New Testament program – which includes His desire to fill, to baptize each and every one of His children with His Holy Ghost. Beware saints. God’s people sinned when they “limited the holy one of Israel” (Psalms 78:41).
“Yea, they turned back and tempted God, and limited the Holy One of Israel.” Psalms 78:41
We are pressing forward and not drawing back (Philippians 3:13-14; Hebrews 10:38-39).
The following is a divine command:
“Bless the LORD, O my soul, and forget not all his benefits:” Psalms 103:2
Bible Fact/Truth: The LORD wants you full of His Holy Ghost! And no man can change that. See Holy Spirit category.
“The doctrine of Christ” is all of what the Bible says about Him and all that He and His apostles taught. Anyone who doesn’t remain in the doctrine of Christ, the whole counsel thereof, after being saved, is a hell bound rebel.
“Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in (remains not in) the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.” 2 John 9
Many today have chosen to reject certain portions of God’s Word due to not liking what it says. Many today are universalists who believe God is love and yet He’s no longer going to judge and be just and deliver to hell those who die outside of Christ. These are hell bound heretics who have rejected the clear teachings of Jesus Christ. See Mark 9:43-49 for example.
People are still defending this delusion:
To a person who was calling us to cease telling the truth, shining the light of Christ into the devil’s dark and insidious intrusions into the professing body of Christ…. the following rebuke was leveled:
Jesus says we know people “BY THEIR fruits” and so who’s lying… you, or the Son of God? I’ve got my answer. Matt 7:16, 20. God is calling you to get into His Word for real and cease peddling misinformation concerning Him which would be to use His holy Name in vain. Read Matthew 23 and destroy the fairytale image you have of the Son of God. Repent now.
ANY person agreeing with the Asbury “revival” is openly declaring that they are antichrist rebels who are calling God a liar, Who says that homosexuality is an “abomination” (Leviticus 18:22).
Any person who does not choose to agree with God, with what He stated in His Word, is a lost soul who is calling the Almighty a liar.
You cannot disagree with God’s Word and still be right with God.
“A woke church is a broken church. Repent or perish! Sodom will burn! God does not accept willful sinners who will not confess what HE calls sin and repent of it. Those who condone sin are on the broad way to destruction regardless of how many hours they sing songs, raise hands, pray, FEEL good. ‘Lord Lord have not we prayed for DAYS? Have not we praised your name for weeks on end? Have not we appeared righteous outwardly? Have we not redefined revival to inclusive, diverse, and equitable? Did we not allow the minority gender identifiers to lead?’ Asbury doesn’t qualify as a Bible revival any more than an mRNA jab qualifies as a vaccine. Yet MANY are deceived by both trusting the ‘experts’ of seminaries and government institutions. Cursed be the man who trusts in man, and whose heart departs from the Lord …blind being led by the blind into the ditch of counterfeit revival.” A.R.
“The thing that is missing from all these false revivals is the message of the cross, repentance, and truly coming to JESUS. The other thing I did hear was that there were homosexuals helping to lead worship and that there was a lot of repetitive words in worship being done (those are mantra’s) and not something we should be doing.” LG
Invite the effeminate, the sodomites into the church? Well, if they attend, let them hear the pure raw Word of God which includes the call to absolute repentance. If they don’t repent, they must be turned over to Satan, removed (1 Corinthians 5). Regrettably perhaps less than 5% of church gatherings today are led by true men of God. Wolves abound just as was foretold (Matthew 7:15; 24:11; 2 Timothy 3:13; 1 John 4:1, etc.).
If you attend a “church” that is not dealing with any form of fornication the Bible way – calling it out, calling it sin, requiring repentance, you are part of a an antichrist congregation. Run.
The body of Christ is commanded not even to associate with, to not even eat with any professing Christian who is a fornicator.
“But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat. 12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? DO NOT YE JUDGE THEM THAT ARE WITHIN? 13 But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.” 1 Corinthians 5:11-13
HOW did the body of Christ deal with fornicators? Read 1 Corinthians 5. Knowledge up, now! Know the Word. Pour over this chapter.
IF this “revival” were truly of the LORD, why would the secular WORLD be promoting it? WHY all the promotion needed? Hmmmmm.
“Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world” (1 John 4:1). Bad fruit – people camping out in a building. In Scripture, true moves of God always moved disciples out to the world (Mark 16:15; Acts 1:8; 8:4, etc.). This is a self-serving, self-absorbed “move” and so we know it’s not of God. Lust gets – love gives. They are promoting what God calls an “abomination” (Leviticus 18:22). They have pushed Elijah Drake to the forefront. He’s an open homo whom they pushed onto the platform at Asbury so he could tell everyone he’s practicing what God calls an “abomination.” Asbury has a cursed root, bad fruit (Matthew 12:33).
This is a recent social media post from Elijah Drake, a sodomite being promoted by Asbury.
Elijah Drake writes on February 18, 2023
“I guess it took until the Asbury outpouring for some people to realize that gay people are in their churches, their pews, their choirs, their worship teams, their prayer groups, their youth groups, their seminaries, and all that. And they’re worthy of love and dignity and care.”
And, yes, these and all sinners are entitled to hear the divine command to repent and if they don’t, they are not to be allowed to remain as leaven, a cancer to spread and destroy others! Read 1 Corinthians 5.
It seems obvious that Elijah Drake is an infiltrator and has no intention of repenting.
One writer notes:
“We once allowed a Lesbian attendance in our congregation. This lasted long enough to determine she was not there to repent, but persuade. We showed her the door.” Tim
I agree with brother Tim on this one and any disciple who has ever dealt with homos will most likely agree – they are not there to repent but rather to infiltrate, to influence others into their evil.
To those insisting that this Asbury “revival” is from God, I’ve been sharing the following:
That doesn’t make this one a true revival at all. This is not an outpouring from God at all. At the very foundations Asbury is the promotion of that which GOD calls an “abomination” (Lev 18:22). They are promoting it…. take a look at link below and also these things are all to be TESTED and not just accepted. “Quench not the Spirit” (1 Th. 5:19). “Despise not prophesyings” (1 Th. 5:20). “Prove (test) all things; hold fast that which is good” (1 Thessalonians 5:21).
Stacy Strother writes:
“There is soooo much evidence now, brought to the surface by men and women of God with a strong Spirit of discernment, that is compiled against that Asbury being a true Holy Ghost invoked revival. It is not my place to judge the heart, God does that, only the fruit. A feeling is not enough. It has to be fueled by Gods Word and not by desire for pushing an agenda, as we have discovered there. If you have a friend that went and they are a Christian, if that friend knew that the Asbury revival was connected to Catholicism, Universalism, Ecumenism, and the LGBTQ community, would they have thought it was of God? Hopefully not, or else, they will have proven where they stand in God. The devil is deceptive.
The last days ‘world religion’ will be of such candor. ‘Christians’ will turn against Christians and give them over to the magistrates.
The time is now. You are witnessing the last days one world religion forming before your eyes. The Bible said it would be this way.
The LGBTQ community is sifting their way into our lives, our communities, and our churches, forcing their beliefs and dividing the flock of Jesus – well the mere professors, from the authentic disciples of Christ who stand upon the Word of God as their final divine authority. Be prepared. It only gets worse – until Jesus appears. Discernment is a must have in todays religious world.
You can be sincere, but sincerely wrong. The Mormons are sincere, JW’s, Muslims, Catholics, oneness Pentecostals, all, sincere people.
The enemy isn’t going to come at us with a false looking deity like Hinduism or Buddhism have. He’s already done that. Nor is he going to come at us with a large dark shroud that can be easily spotted.
2 Corinthians 11:14
“And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.”
King James Version (KJV)
He is going to make it appear to be legit, and it’s not.”
Asbury Fake “Revival” Exploded
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Nourished Up in God’s Word [podcast]
“Great podcast. Thank you. If you want to really fall in love with the scriptures, read Psalm 119. I spent probably a year reading, studying, and memorizing it. This Psalm was written for us, to begin to love God’s Word as much as the Psalmist did, which is what happened to me. My heart was truly transformed. The beloved David’s whole heart was dedicated to studying, obeying, meditating and learning all of the Word of God, so he could live a righteous and holy life, fully devoted to the Lord. We should live and breath the Scriptures and meditate on them day and night (Psalm 1:2).” Karen Cochran
“If thou put the brethren in remembrance of these things, thou shalt be a good minister of Jesus Christ, nourished up in the words of faith and of good doctrine, whereunto thou hast attained.” 1 Timothy 4:6
Remaining “nourished up” in the Word of God is essential to enduring to the end. God’s Word is the divine fuel for all of His beloved saints.
Ingesting, devouring God’s words daily is invigorating to our spirits and essential to our lives in Christ!
Biblical Topics Sampling:
- Love/Charity: 1 Corinthians 13 “The love chapter”
- Origin of all Life/Civilization: Genesis 1-11
- 10 Commandments: Exodus 20:1-17
- Revelation 2-3: Christ addresses the 7 churches of Asia. There are many all-important truths and rebukes completely applicable to us now in being ready for Christ’s return.
- Fearing the LORD: Josh. 24:14; Ps. 2:11-12; 86:11; Prov. 1:7, 29; 8:13; 14:26-27; 22:4: Eccl. 12:13; Matt. 10:28; Lk. 12:4-5
- Sin: man’s core problem and dilemma: Gen. 3; 6:5; Jer. 17:5, 9; Rom. 3; 1 Jn. 1:7-2:2
- Proverbs: There are 31 chapters in Proverbs. 1 per day for a month complete the book.
- Prayer: Matt. 6:6, 26:41; Mk. 1:35; Phil. 4:6; Col. 4:2,12
- Overcoming Sin: Romans 6; 13:14
- The 7 Abominations: Prov. 6:16-19
- Forgiveness: Matt. 18:21-35; Mk 11:25-26
- The Crucified life: Lk. 9:23-24; 2 Cor. 4:10-12; Gal. 2:20; Col. 3:3
- Humility: Prov. 22:4; Matt. 20:20-28; James 4:6-10
- Spiritual Maturity: Heb. 5:11-14, 6:1-3
- Marriage/Dating/Divorce/ReMarriage: Deut. 24; 1 Corinthians 7
- The Written Word: Psalms 119; 2 Timothy 3:15-17; 2 Peter 1:19-21
- Sermon on the Mount: Matthew 5-7
- 6 Principle (foundational) Doctrines of Christ: Heb. 6:1-3
- Correction/Rebuke: Gal. 6:1-2; Prov. 25:9; Matt. 18:15-17; 2 Tim. 3:16
- Sin/Grace Righteousness: Romans 1-5
- Abstaining From Fornication: 1 Thess. 4:1-8; 1 Cor. 6:13-19
- False Prophets/Teachers: Jer. 23; Ezek. 34; Matt. 23; Jude 1; 2 Pet. 2
- Spiritual Gifts: 1 Corinthians 12, 14
- Love/Truth/Light: 1 John 1-5 First John Is Called ‘The Book of Certainties’
- Return of Christ: Luke 12:40; 21:34-36; 1 Thess. 4:16-18, etc.
- God of Restoration: Luke 15, 19:10
- Disciple’s Prayer Model: Matt. 6:9-12
- Riches: Matt. 6:19-21; Luke 12, 16; 1 Timothy 6:5-19
- The Divinity of Jesus Christ: Gospel of John (Hi-Lite & cross-reference every reference to Christ’s divinity); Jn. 1:1-2, 14; 8:58; 20:28; Eph. 3:9; Col. 1:16-17; 1 Tim. 3:16; 6:15-16; Rev. 1:8
- Wisdom: Prov. 8; James 1:5; 1:13-17
Putting God first in your day is a deliberate decision and act. It’s non-negotiable to the truth disciple. Such will never happen by accident. Take control of your time for Jesus or your time will continue to take control of you. Memorize 2 Timothy 2:15 and obey the LORD.
“Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.” 2 Timothy 2:15
“Seek ye out of the book of the LORD, and read: no one of these shall fail …” Isaiah 34:16
Read God’s Word itself, yourself (KJB). THAT is God speaking. Every time you read His Word, God is speaking to you.
“But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.” Matthew 6:33
Becoming familiar with these texts will help you in your own walk with the LORD and in helping others (being able to teach and refer to these passages). You will be well on your way to a rich and full life of Bible literacy & usefulness in God’s kingdom as you begin to learn the above listed topics of truth. Hi-Lite, underline, cross-reference.
“Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.” 2 Timothy 2:15
The KEY to understanding the mind of Christ being communicated in any book of the Bible: First, read that book 10-20 straight through to gain a knowledge of it, to begin to grasp the divine transmission. Then, go back and study it verse by verse in a more in-depth break down of the text.
“But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:” 1 Peter 3:15
Let’s not come up empty handed any longer! Make the quality decision to learn God’s Word for yourself and stop depending on others. Embarking upon diligent topical and systematic Bible study is the answer.
“Have not I written to thee excellent things in counsels and knowledge, That I might make thee know the certainty of the words of truth; that thou mightest answer the words of truth to them that send unto thee?” Proverbs 22:20-21
The Word of God is learned, one truth at a time, “But the word of the LORD was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little.” (Isaiah 28:13)
YOU cannot possibly be flourishing in Christ if you are not dwelling “richly” (abundantly) in His Word – both in your own personal, daily life and concerning Christ’s true body! (Colossians 3:16) If you are not surrounded with people you can have BIBLICAL conversations with, you have surrounded yourself with counterfeits!
“Presently, I am in 1 Kings, reading all the way through the Bible again, and also reading through Revelation backwards. Personally I like to read several chapters every morning to begin the day and like to include Old Testament, Poetic books, and New Testament chapter readings….. along with pouring over passages like 1 Cor 13; Phil 2:3-5; Col. 3:1-4, 12-14;” T.
“In 1 Thessalonians reading through the Bible.” Jason
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Adultery Matthew 5:27-28, 32
Adversity Romans 8:28
Afraid Psalms 34:4, 56:3
Alcohol Ephesians 5:18
Anger Ephesians 4:26-27, 31-32
Anxiety Philippians 4:4-7
Apprehension Matthew 6:31-33
Astrology Deuteronomy 18:9-14
Backbiting Hebrews 12:14-15
Backsliding Psalms 51
Bereaved 2 Corinthians 1:3-4
Burdens 1 Peter 5:6-11
Conceit Luke 18:9-14
Contention Proverbs 13:10. 22:10
Confusion 2 Corinthians 10:3-6
Covetousness Exodus 20:17, Romans 7:7
Crisis Psalms 121
Criticism Romans 12
Cursing James 3:10
Daydreaming 2 Corinthians 10:3-6
Deceit Colossians 2:8
Defeated Romans 8:31-39
Depression Isaiah 61:1-3. Psalms 34
Despair 2 Corinthians 4:8
Destruction Psalms 103; Proverbs 18:12
Disaster Threatens Psalms 91
Discouragement Isaiah 42; Psalms 23
Disobedience John 15:14
Divorce Mark 10:2-12
Doubt Proverbs 3:5-6; Hebrews 11
Drugs 2 Corinthians 7:1
Drunkenness Luke 21:34-36
Envy Proverbs 14:30
Excuses Luke 14:15-24
Faith Falls Psalms 42:5
Fantasy 2 Corinthians 10:3-6
Fatigue Isaiah 40:31
Fault finding Matthew 7:1-5
Fear 2 Timothy 1:7; Luke 12:5
Fear of Rejection Ephesians 1
Fornication 1 Corinthians 6:18-20
Friends Fail 2 Timothy 4:16-18
Gluttony Proverbs 23:2
Gossip Proverbs 13:3
Greed Matthew 19:24
Grief Isaiah 53:3-4
Guilt Romans 8:1
Hatred 1 John 2:11
Heartbreak Psalms 147:3
Heaviness Isaiah 61:1-3
Hurting John 14
Idleness Proverbs 19:15
Idolatry 1 John 5:21
Inadequacy Philippians 4:13
Incest Leviticus 20:11,12,14
Inferiority Philippians 4:13
Impure Thought 2 Peter 2:10
Insomnia Proverbs 3:24
Intolerance 1 Corinthians 13
Irritability 1 Corinthians 13
Jealousy Proverbs 6:34
Judging Romans 14:10-13
Laziness Hebrews 6:12, Proverbs 19:15
Legalism Galatians 3
Lethargy Proverbs 21:24-26
Loneliness John 14; Psalms 23
Lying Revelation 21:8
Lust Matthew 5:28
Manipulation 2 Peter 2
Masturbation Romans 1:24-28
Materialistic 1 John 2:15-17
Mocking Proverbs 17:5
Murder Exodus 20:13
Negativism 2 Corinthians 1:20
Nervousness Philippians 4:6
Obsessive Behavior Galatians 5:16-25
Occult Deuteronomy 18
Overly Sensitive 1 Corinthians 13
Passivity Matthew 10:33
Pouting Matthew 6: 14-15
Prejudice James 2: 1-13
Pressure Proverbs 3:25-26
Pride Proverbs 16:18
Profane 1 Timothy 1:9
Protection Psalms 27
Quarreling Ephesians 4:25-32
Rape 2 Corinthians 7:1
Rebellion 1 Samuel 15:23
Rejection John 14
Resentment Hebrews 12
Restlessness Psalms 46:10
Retaliation Romans 12
Revenge Matthew 5:43-48
Sadness Nehemiah 8:10
Scorning Proverbs 22:10
Selfishness 2 Corinthians 9:1-14
Self-pity Philippians 4:8-9
Self-righteousness Luke 18:9-14
Self-rejection Psalms 139:14
Self-will Isaiah 53:6
Sensuality Galatians 5:16-26
Sexual Impurity Proverbs 6:24-35
Sin Psalms 66:18; 1 John 1:9; John 8:34-36
Slow to Forgive Matthew 18:21-35
Sorrow Isaiah 53
Spite Isaiah 50:6
Stealing Exodus 20:15
Strife James 3
Stubbornness 1 Samuel 15:23
Submission 1 Peter 2:13-17
Suicide Exodus 20:13
Suspicion Exodus 20:16
Swearing Colossians 3:8
Temper 2 Peter 1:5-8
Tempted Matthew 26:41
Too Quick to Speak James 3:1-13
Unbelief Hebrews 3:12-13
Unforgiveness Matthew 18:21-35
Vanity Galatians 5:26
Violence Ezekiel 45:9
Weariness Hebrews 12:3; 2 Thessalonians 3:13
Witchcraft Galatians 5:20
Workaholic Romans 10:3; Ephesians 2:8-9
Worldliness 1 John 2: 15-17
Worry Isaiah 35:3-5; 26:3-4
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False Apostles Exposed!
Ever notice today who everyone and their uncle’s dog is supposedly an “apostle”? Laughable. Heretical. Holy Scripture specifically addresses “false apostles” two times.
“For such are FALSE APOSTLES, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. 14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. 15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.” 2 Corinthians 11:13-15
Any man pretending to be an “apostle” is one of the “false apostles.”
To the Ephesian assembly of believers, Jesus said:
“I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried (tested) them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars:” Revelation 2:2
Those who falsely claim to be apostles “are evil.”
Below is a specific exposé of a network of false apostles. Most deceivers use similar schemes and methods to prey upon the unlearned.
“Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them. 18 For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.” Romans 16:17-18
Reasoning away the blatant error and deception of these self-appointed so-called “apostles” is unwise and will result in being misled and damned ultimately (2 Thessalonians 2:9-12; 2 Peter 3:17). It doesn’t matter how many good things are on their site and presented in their ministry, it’s a false ministry based on the fact that they are elevating themselves as “apostles” and deceitfully manipulating people with mind control to believe they need these wolves for spiritual maturity. This is a classic, easily discerned deception (2 Peter 2:17). This is classic Nicolaitan deceit. Jesus says He hates these deeds and doctrines (Revelation 2:6, 15).
“In fact it would be the same as attempting to elevate oneself in the power of the self, over other believers, as Jesus told us we are not to be doing. Reference where the disciples were arguing with each other over which of them was the greatest. Same would be true of a a person elevating themselves as a Pope.” Trevor Gamble
Most deception is simple mind control which is witchcraft to get gullible people under their spell and false leadership by making them think they need these “living apostles.” It’s a scam.
“Beware lest any man spoil (ruin) you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. 9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. 10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power.” Colossians 2:8-10
These “false apostles” will verbally agree with the fact that all true believers are “complete” in Christ and yet, they add to His Word and plan by insisting that THEY are Christ’s appointed “apostles” whom the LORD has sent to perfect them (those they are preying on). This is nonsense folks. This is no different than the Catholic cult convincing their prey that Peter was the first pope. We know that isn’t biblical and yet, when someone is convinced of this lie, they then wrongly believe that the Roman religion is the one true religion that extends from Christ and Peter. So, like Rome, these “false apostles” add themselves into the simple equation given us in the original Gospel of Jesus Christ (1 Timothy 2:5). More on this below …
We hope that these men will contact us with proof that they have repented and are bringing forth tangible fruits consistent with that true repentance (Matthew 3:7-8).
Self-Appointed “Apostle” John Welty Exposed
Any man calling himself a prophet or apostle is a fraud.
John Welty is a part of the “Second 8th Week Ministries.” Their website reads: “Living Apostles Today | Restoring the Church Back to Her First Love.” This clearly indicates that they believe that no one alive today among the true servants of Christ are able to do this work of Christ except them – the “living apostles.” This statement infers that until now, the body of Christ has not been able to grow into full maturity but now it can since they are on the scene. Another false apostle involved is self-appointed “apostle” Eric Vonanderseck.
“The apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors, and teachers of the Second 8th Week welcome you. Hear what God is saying to the church through His apostles and prophets. If God has been preparing your heart for transition and change, be ready to be ignited by the Spirit to the fulness of the hope of Christ. This is a time of separation, a time of challenge, and a time of rejoicing. (Isaiah 42:16)”
This is a network set up to entrap and ensnare souls (Ezekiel 22:25-27). Note the typical buzz words and terms used by false ministries such as “transition and change” and “ignited.” This witchcraft, manipulation, and mind control is being wielded over the minds of men and women.
Note: A warning has been sent by us to these men in hopes that they would see the light of truth and turn to the LORD before it’s too late. No reply back was received to date. It is our prayer that these men will repent and turn their lives over to the LORD afresh in humility and brokenness. If they do, they will become genuinely broken, drop their titles, and begin serving God’s people instead of exploiting them for personal gain. Yet, for now the alarm must be sounded so that others can escape the snare of their falsehoods and counterfeit pretentious “ministry.” Our desire is not to condemn or be harsh. These things must be done in obedience to our LORD to protect precious souls (Romans 16:17-18; Hebrews 13:20; Jude 3-4, etc.).
Yet, we pray these guys themselves will turn to the LORD
At the top of the page on his personal website, John Welty didn’t even pay enough attention or purposely used a lower case “c” when referring to Jesus Christ. Keep this in mind as you read the following concerning this ravening wolf (Ezekiel 22:25-27; Matthew 7:15).
Did you notice this paragraph on this guy’s site? I high lighted some things…..
“Truth, which comes through living apostles, makes all the necessary connections so that we may recognize the pattern God set for our faith to follow. With truth in the heart, we learn how to meet God’s expectations through sanctified faith in Christ which joins our faith perfectly to Him that we may experience the power and fullness of Christ.”
Typical tricky and deceit-filled language used here. Welty is positioning himself by conditioning the reader to believe there are “living apostles” and that those apostles have the same amount of kingdom authority as did Paul and the original twelve and that we are to submit to them. Not quite! Though I do believe there are apostles today, I don’t believe they fulfill the same function or place in God’s kingdom as did the original twelve and Paul, and that if they are an apostle and a true one, they are probably humble enough not to refer to themselves as an apostle. They simply go about humbly serving.
You see, if wolves like John Welty can convince the unlearned that they need him then he’s got them in his grip. After all, John Welty is a “living apostle,” right? Wrong!
We are often warned in Scripture of beguilers like John Welty.
Read and commit to memory the following verse and it will keep you till the end beloved in this time of great and treacherous apostasy:
“For of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage.” 2 Peter 2:17
Read it one more time please. This is key.
When you allow a man to “overcome” you with a lie such as Welty is peddling, then he will bring you under his “bondage” to the lies he perpetrated upon your life.
When we are truly submitted to Jesus Christ, rooted and grounded in Him and therefore His love and truth, we will escape such beguilers.
Notice how these so-called “apostles” have inserted themselves in the equation? Didn’t God tell us that there is only “ONE Mediator between God and man, the man Christ Jesus”? (1 Timothy 2:5). Did you catch the word “necessary” Welty used? This is classic, typical Nicolaitan (conquer the laity by convincing them they need you) usurping. Jesus says He hates this (Rev. 2:6, 15). “False apostles” is one of the perils Paul faced (2 Corinthians 11:13).
These so-called “apostles” need to repent and begin obeying Jesus by not using titles and calling themselves mere servants who do not merit being saved much less ruling unwarranted over God’s children (Matthew 20:24-28; 23:8-12; Ephesians 3:8; 1 Timothy 1:15).
The 5-fold eldership giftings are to be used to glorify God was SERVING HUMBLY among His people and not to use as a title to build ones own brand in self-promotions (Romans 12:3-8; Ephesians 4:11-16; 1 Peter 4:10-11). This is a direct contradiction of what Christ taught about the necessity of humility among His people (Matthew 20:20-28; 23:8-12).
Another clue to his smoke-blowing scam is that he is a cloud and wind without rain or without any substance (Proverbs 25:14).
“These are wells without water (no substance), clouds that are carried with a tempest; to whom the mist of darkness is reserved for ever. 18 For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error.” 2 Peter 2:17-18
This guy is very long winded to make little simple points that aren’t even biblical and he really doesn’t make those points well if at all. Doesn’t the Bible tell us that the LORD is not the author of confusion? See 1 Corinthians 14:33. It would seem, at least in part, that John Welty is striving in the flesh and wanting “job security” as it’s called today. In other words, he wants people to think they need him which would assure his rule over them and being funded. So he’s deliberately not upholding the “Head” but instead he’s usurpingly intercepting the worship due only to Christ, the only Head of His body from which all divine virtue flows. See Colossians 2:18-19.
These “false apostles” give themselves away by never mentioning the very “the Apostle and High Priest of our profession, Christ Jesus.” Jesus alone is “the Apostle and High Priest of our profession.”
“Wherefore, holy brethren, partakers of the heavenly calling, consider the Apostle and High Priest of our profession, Christ Jesus;” Hebrews 3:1
Isn’t it interesting how much time and energy these circus clown wolves spend claiming and touting their own self-appointed, supposed apostleship and say little or nothing about the very “Apostle and High Priest of our profession, Christ Jesus”? Now that’s a huge red flag, waving profusely!
The “Apostle” that matters is Jesus Christ, not modern men who wish to elevate themselves among other men by touting titles and thereby deceiving and snaring souls.
Paul, a known servant and true apostle of Jesus, appointed by Christ Himself, stated:
“Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul?” 1 Corinthians 1:13
Inserting so-called modern “apostles” into the equation is Nicolaitan domination over other souls which is witchcraft, which Jesus says He hates (Revelation 2:6, 15). JESUS Christ is building HIS true church as He promised and warns us about false prophets and false apostles, especially in these final days.
“The spirit of antichrist” opposes Christ by replacing Him who told us He is the only way (John 14:6). Those possessed with “the spirit of antichrist” don’t antichrist” don’t “consider” or esteem and factor in the only true Christ – Jesus Christ. They factor Him out of their message and your mind and life. That’s the very job of “the spirit of antichrist” who is Satan himself who has come to “steal, and to kill, and to destroy” (John 10:10). The “spirit of antichrist” is that evil spirit that works to replace Christ with something or anything else, derailing those who once knew Him (Colossians 2:8; 18-19; 1 Timothy 4:1-3; Hebrews 3:12-14; 1 John 4:1-3). Anti means in place of and so “the spirit of antichrist” replaces Christ with a false Christ or anything else (1 John 4:1-3). So, this evil spirit, working through false apostles like John Welty, seeks to replace Christ with himself in the lives of the people he preys upon.
You see, this guy is not preaching Christ but self. Paul said “We preach Christ crucified” (1 Corinthians 1:23). Welty distorts and throws out smokescreens with lots of fluff and stuff that goes undetected by those who have chosen to reject Christ in their own personal lives and therefore don’t study diligently His written Word. They therefore find it intriguing to hear all this acrobatic language that makes him appear as if he is a guru who has a special line to God and yet, in reality, what he says amounts to nothing.
Paul says: “But God forbid that I should glory, save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world is crucified unto me, and I unto the world.” Galatians 6:14
You will most likely never hear John Welty say those words and if you do, he will twist them. Welty is glorying in self, not the Savior. Those snared by this man’s ministry of deceit will be like Welty – self-serving and Savior-rejecting.
1 John 4
“1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.”
Glory intercepted: This fellow is under “strong delusion,” even having been sent by God this “spirit of antichrist” (2 Thessalonians 2:9-12). If you look at large segments of this guy’s work, you will not see him preaching and confessing Jesus Christ who came in the flesh because he is purposely x-ing Jesus out of the message in order to be able to elevate and establish himself and give job security to himself. The spirit of antichrist comes on those who want to reign over their own lives as Lucifer vaunted himself against the Almighty but was cast down for doing so.
If you are going to understand how the enemy works, you must understand the following passage which holds the key to understanding and being able to detect the work of the enemy of all souls:
Isaiah 14
“12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.”
Did you see the 5 “I”‘s of Lucifer?
In Heaven in eternity past, Lucifer, who is now Satan, appointed himself to be “like the most High.” This is exactly what the self-appointed, so-called “little gods” of today do as they seek to wield their manipulation over the people just as Lucifer did and was successful at garnering a third of the angels in Heaven who joined him in rebelling against God (Revelation 12:7-12). The first rebel, Lucifer, was cast out of God’s presence violently and permanently because “God resisteth (sets Himself against) the proud” (James 4:6).
Ezekiel, the servant of the LORD, was told by God to “Speak WITH MY WORDS unto them” (Ezekiel 3:4). Timothy was charged to simply and only “Preach the word” (2 Timothy 4:2).
Note what the elders of Israel did in ministering to God’s people:
“So they read in the book in the law (written Word) of God distinctly, and gave the sense, and caused them to understand the reading.” Nehemiah 8:8
They simply read God’s Word to the people and helped them “understand” GOD’s Word. ANY person in “ministry” who is not doing this is a bona fide wolf on this basis alone.
As the video goes on, Welty speaks of “tools we can use daily.” I don’t like this word “tools” for more than one reason but firstly, I don’t like it because it’s not biblical language. What’s wrong with using the word “tools” and other non-scriptural terms and words? Well, lots. The premise from which he speaks is that WE use God and the things He has given us instead of being LED by and of Him. In this guy’s Luciferic theology, we take what God gives and use it as we see fit. He’s an enemy of the cross of Christ (Philippians 3:18-19). When we obey Jesus, we lay down our lives and deny self, take up the cross and follow Christ who is “the resurrection” and raised us up in His power, humbled before Him and simply following His lead. “As many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God” (Romans 8:14). Do you see the difference here of being led by the Spirit and taking things into our own hands, even the “tools” God gives us? In this guy’s corrupted theology, God isn’t in control but he is.
Then he speaks of these so-called modern apostles whom he says “God” has called to “steward these things to you.” In other words, you need THEM. THEY are essential, not Christ, but them. You seeing this baiting and switching? This is slight of hand friends of Christ, so beware!
He says “this is what Christ is doing….. not apart from my stewardship but through it.” So, according to this wolf’s deranged theology, you must have him to have the work of God done in your life. It’s through him, not Christ but him, that God is doing His work. Absurd!
Then he says Christ was not our substitute but rather did what He did for “our benefit.” There we go again – he is making everything revolve around man when God’s Word teaches us that man is utterly depraved, corrupted, and sinful and that Jesus Christ is the propitiation for our sin. This man has replaced who the Messiah revealed in Holy Scripture with a false Christ that simply does all he does for the benefit of man. He’s like some cosmic bellboy who has come to give man tools to do his (man’s) own bidding as he sees fit as his own little god.
He uses more code language here such as “sanctified contact.” No such term or language appears in Holy Scripture. It’s like these guys create their own language to hoodwink the unlearned who refuse to study God’s Word and seek His face.
“Nine spiritual tools”? There are nine “GIFTS” of the Holy Spirit given to the body of Christ (1 Corinthians 12:4-12) and nine dimensions of “the FRUIT of the Spirit” (Galatians 5:22-23); but never are nine or any “tools of the spirit” mentioned. What spirit is this man speaking by and of? The answer should be obvious.
Ouch, then he digs himself deeper with this feigned idea and worn out scheme of “learning the language of the covenant.” But his use of the words “language of the covenant” is not referring to simply learning the language given us as Holy Scripture which would be the language of God’s covenant if you will. You see, by his whole new language, he has to complicate the simple Gospel, the original Gospel, in order to establish his own position and profession and make people believe he is above them; and that they need him to know all these useless things he is putting forth and making sound fancy. To the contrary, Paul speaks of “the simplicity that is in Christ”:
2 Corinthians 11
“2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.
3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.
4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.
5 For I suppose I was not a whit behind the very chiefest apostles.
6 But though I be rude in speech, yet not in knowledge; but we have been throughly made manifest among you in all things.”
John Welty is the typical esoteric clairvoyant channeler or medium who feigns to have some special line to God; and be a modern apostle of Jesus in order to trick people into submission to his high and mighty calling and Luciferian self. This man is a self-appointed false apostle and false prophet just as we are warned about in Holy Scripture (2 Corinthians 11:13). As we are doing here in identifying and exposing this false apostle. So did the Ephesian believers. Jesus said to them:
“I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried (tested) them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars:” Revelation 2:2
Welty is a classic and typical example of a man who does not memorize God’s Words but rather has learned a simulated certain type of terminology in order to feel as though he has something unique that people need to learn. That’s his purpose for not preaching God’s Word – so he can introduce and seduce. Instead of simply teaching the written Word of God, false ministers try to come up with something different or something other than just the Bible so that they have their own brand of ware to peddle and make themselves seem unique and a needed commodity. But the Bible instructs us to “Preach the word” and to “speak with MY words unto them;” and “If any man speak, let him speak as of the oracles (written Word) of God” (2 Timothy 4:2; Ezekiel 3:4; 1 Peter 4:11).
I don’t sense the Holy Spirit in this man’s life at all which would be evidenced by “the fruit of the Spirit” or that Christ-like evidence produced in the life of the true disciple who is dying to self and being conformed to the holy and humble image of the Son of God who loved us and gave Himself for us (Romans 8:28; Galatians 5:22-23). A self-serving man is a man who is separated from Him who “is love” (1 John 4:8, 16). With no exceptions, those who are possessed with the fruit of God’s love live their lives to serve others and not exploit them for selfish cause.
Welty’s use of the words, “being in submission to my stewardship as an apostle,” gives his whole gig away. To the contrary, the Bible says:
“Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.” James 4:7
Submitting to God is what is important, not submitting to mere sinful men. And, we are commanded to only submit to those servant elders who preach only God’s pure Word, and diligently watch for our souls (Hebrews 13:7, 17). Such a servant is very rare and nearly impossible to find in this late hour.
Welty’s system of submission is no different that that used by the catholic church which has added itself to the equation of salvation, falsely claiming that there is no salvation outside of Rome. But the true believer knows there’s only one Hope, one Way, one Truth, one who is eternal Life, one Mediator, and one great Intercessor!
Listen to what the apostle of Jesus, Paul, said concerning his place as an apostle:
“Not for that we have dominion over your faith, but are helpers of your joy: for by faith (faith in God not Paul) ye stand.” 2 Corinthians 1:24
Yet Welty, and deceivers like him, claim to possess some great authority that believers should submit to. Nonsense!
Paul said that the Corinthian disciples of JESUS were only to follow him AS he followed Christ, and not if he departed from the faith and ceased to follow Christ (1 Corinthians 11:1). Paul was protecting the people even against himself, of whom he said he must “KEEP under” his body and bring it into subjection lest he also become rejected as a reprobate or one who is “castaway” from God (1 Corinthians 9:27). The apostle Paul, a true apostle of Jesus Christ said to the Galatians, that even if a very angel from HEAVEN (not hell), or if he (Paul) ever told them anything different than what he gave them in giving them the Gospel of Christ, that they were to consider him “accursed” (Galatians 1:6-9).
“But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach ANY other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. 9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach ANY OTHER gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.” Galatians 1:8-9
This guy is a false as they come. I stopped the video here. It should be more than clear that John Welty is a child of Satan himself, posing as a minister of righteousness.
2 Corinthians 11:12-15
“12 But what I do, that I will do, that I may cut off occasion from them which desire occasion; that wherein they glory, they may be found even as we.
13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.”
This guy is so obvious that part of me wants to burst out laughing, and the other part is very sad that there are so many severely lost and unlearned souls who would follow this error; and are one step away from the Lord’s wrath and don’t even realize it.
Paul, a true servant and God-fearing overseer, cried with literal tears for three years day and night, because he knew devouring wolves were going to enter in from among the people of God to lead away and destroy souls. He therefore commended them to the Word of God which is our only protection – but only as we ourselves seek His face and study what He told us in His Word.
Acts 20:27-32
“27 For I have not shunned to declare unto you all the counsel of God.
28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.
29 For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock.
30 Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them.
31 Therefore watch, and remember, that by the space of three years I ceased not to warn every one night and day with tears.
32 And now, brethren, I commend you to God, and to the word of his grace, which is able to build you up, and to give you an inheritance among all them which are sanctified.”
In verse 32 Paul gives you and me the solution and safeguard to deceit and wolves – “the word” which is able to grant us a heavenly “inheritance.”
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“Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. 10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: 11 For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.” 2 John 9-11
Concerning apostles, one servant writes:
“I believe the scripture bears out that the use of the title of apostle should be reserved for those first apostles who were taught directly from the mouth of the Lord. That would include the eleven, plus Mathias, and Paul. Those apostles will forever be held to a greater position of respect since God chose them to be firsthand representatives of the message and Messenger He sent, Jesus Christ. Their revelation of Him and His message should never be added to, but it may be expounded on by the Spirit who continues to give us understanding of those things. Thus, those men stand alone in their call, and the bearing of the title should be reserved for them alone. That title makes that distinction clear. To strengthen this by the scripture, let us remember that while Barnabas and others were apostles, they were NEVER referred to as apostles by title. (Apostle Barnabas?) This was to distinguish them from second generation apostles who did not learn directly from Jesus Christ, but followed the first generation apostles and continued in the apostle’s call of teaching among the scattered sheep, establishing churches, and walking in the way of the Lord as examples to the whole flock. Yes. Genuine humility is essential in our walk and call, regardless of our particular position for edification in the body; but it is a particularly important characteristic for those who are entrusted with the call of a second generation apostle since we minister to the whole body. Our example should be the life walk of the High Apostle of us all, even Jesus Christ (Hebrews 3:1).
Finally, Some may argue that they need to use the title as Paul did, so that they will be given proper respect. However, the use of the title does not necessarily give respect and usually turns true believers off (thankfully). Paul was indeed a first generation apostle and even his use of the title did not always work to his favor. There was a lot of pain that went with his authentic title. I dare say, not many who call themselves that today would be willing to pay the price that he did – which was another PROOF of his apostleship.
In His grace,” M.
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SINLESS PERFECTIONISM: WHOSE Righteousness are You Trusting? [podcast]
Salvation, justification, overcoming sin all come by way of the mercy of God, the divinely enabling grace of God, and the cross, the daily crucified life (Luke 9:23-24; Romans 3:24-26; 4:4-5; 6:14; 2 Corinthians 4:10-12; Galatians 2:20; 3:1-3; Titus 3:5-7, etc.). It does not come by mere self-determination or self-will.
Don’t strive. Surrender.
Beware of the sinless perfectionism mob.
Beloved, God found us, in our sins, and saved us into His eternal kingdom! (Romans 5:6-9; 1 John 4:19). We didn’t find Him. He found us!
Defusing the iniquity of self-righteousness increases exponentially when we begin learning the biblical doctrine of fallen mankind (Genesis 6:5, 12; Jeremiah 17:9; Romans 7:18; Psalms 39:4-5).
“For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not. … 24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?” Romans 7:18, 24
“It’s actually freedom when we embrace the Bible truth of how wretched we are! We don’t have to hide it or try to be better than we are! Jesus can now reign on the throne of our hearts and not self!” Karen Cochran
Realizing our own utter helplessness, hopelessness, and depravity and taking up the cross is the only the safe place with God right, the cross, the bowing to Him to take full control…. See Matthew 5:3; John 3:30.
All self-righteous religious hypocrites are going to hell (Matthew 21:31). May God save, forgive, and cause us, to bless us to be His authentic disciples. In Jesus’ Name, amen.
Paul’s flesh was and our flesh is a constant reminder of the ever momentary need for the cross, burial, and resurrection grace of Jesus (Romans 6:3-10; 8:11; 2 Corinthians 4:10-12; Galatians 2:20, etc.). Read Romans chapters 6-7 each morning this week.
The cross reveals your sin, and God’s love, not how wonderful you are! Repent!
Saints, we cannot possibly begin to appreciate this “so great salvation” that is Christ until we understand how lost, helpless, and alienated we were in our sin (Ephesians 2:1-10; Hebrews 2:3). We must study to understand the biblical doctrine of inherent sin, fallen mankind, and the holiness of God …. in order to begin to be able to appreciate the redemption that is in Jesus Christ.
Touting our own supposed righteousness is a dangerous undertaking. Lifting ourselves up will result in being brought down low, with no exception.
“Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.” Proverbs 16:18
All I have to do to find the man most in need of God’s saving grace and mercy, is to look in the mirror (Romans 7:18, 24; James 1:23-24). As long as we neglect to look in the mirror, honestly, we will continue to be self-righteous as were Jesus’ most evil enemies, the religious frauds, the pharisees of His day (Matthew 23). Are we pharisees or humble, broken, honest disciples of Christ? (Matthew 18:3-4)
“If I justify myself, mine own mouth shall condemn me: if I say, I am perfect, it shall also prove me perverse.” Job 9:20
“Who can say, I have made my heart clean, I am pure from my sin?” Proverbs 20:9
There is NO righteousness outside of Christ (Romans 7:18, 24).
Every single day is the opportunity to overcome – yet this will only happen as we choose to do things God’s way – the cross. Romans 6-8; 2 Corinthians 4:10-12; Galatians 2:20; Colossians 3:3, etc. Sinless Perfectionism Exposed
The no sin nature people are missing the cross. The Mike Desario’s, the Charles Finney’s, and the Jesse Morrell’s of the world peddle the no-sin-nature heresy and also do not preach the cross, the crucified life. They rag on endlessly about “stopping all sin” but never mention the crucified life which is the only divine prescription for overcoming sin (Romans 6, etc.). That alone makes them false, peddlers of “another gospel.” (Galatians 1:6-9) This is why they can’t understand this. They do not realize that God gave us the solution to this sin bent (iniquity), this inherent in fallen man sin – and that answer is the crucified life which is at the heart of the original Gospel.
“True holiness” comes exclusively from the perfect sacrifice of Jesus Christ. Yet this is not just our position in Christ, it must also be the practical reality of our lives lived (Ephesians 4:24). The holiness of God, “true holiness,” requires the “daily” cross Jesus commanded which separates us from self and sin (Luke 9:23-24; 1 Corinthians 9:27, etc.). Sin is overcome exclusively via oneness with Christ in an abiding relationship (John 15, 17) and not by mere self-effort alone – which is antichrist. The point established in the whole of Holy Scripture is that we are beholden to the Savior, the LORD Jesus, and must be honest about our wretchedness outside of a present abiding relationship with Him (Romans 7:18, 24) whereby the fruit of holiness is produced. There’s a slew of self-righteousness being promoted as “holiness” today through wolves who’ve digested the false teaching of devils like Mike Desario and Charles Finney and those who peddle these doctrines.
“But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; 22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and 
upon all them that believe: for there is no difference: 23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; 24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus (not self): 25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation (atoning sacrifice) through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; 26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.” Romans 3:21-26
After being attacked and accused of being a Roman catholic, Baptist heretic…. the response to the accuser was as follows:
Thanks for the attack, the persecution. I do rejoice (Matthew 5:10-12). I am certainly anything but Catholic or Baptist. Now, to examine what you wrote ….No one is a more staunch exposer of Rome, nor a more critical exposer of the eternal security Baptist, protestant lie (the ministry has 3 landmark books exposing OSAS – over 1,000 pages total) ….. So what you are saying here is a lie, bearing false witness, instead of dealing with the Scripture truth of these things. There is no cross in this sinless perfectionism movement, and the cross is the only way to overcome all sin – by the resurrection power of Christ (Gal 2:20; 2 Cor 4:10-12). Also, there is no grace (divine enablement) or faith in your message, but rather only rote mechanical obedience as if people are earning their own way. This alone makes your message errant, not according to the whole counsel of Scripture. | Eternal Security Exposed | Catholic Church Exposed
You offer some truth here and yet this sounds like Mike Desario, Charles Finney falsehoods, the no-sin-nature, sinless perfectionism heresy.
Sinlessly Perfect? You Sure? [podcast]
Beware of the sinful self-righteousness masquerading behind feigned perfect obedience. This Sinless perfectionism they are pushing is pure self-righteousness.
I am not your enemy ….. attack if you see fit. Yes, the LORD does say that obedience is essential, it proves that one knows the LORD or is known of Him (Matt 7:21). Good works do not save us – Christ alone saves us. This is a real subtle deception. There is the need to synthesize “ALL scripture” which teaches, that faith, obedience and good fruit do not save us, God does, by HIS sheer mercy.
“Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost; 6 Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour; 7 That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.” Titus 3:5-7
Sinful self-righteousness has no place in the life of a disciple of Jesus. Matthew 21:31
Self-righteousness was one of the sins of the pharisees and is soul damning (Matthew 23, etc.). Even the publicans and harlots will be in Heaven before the self-righteous religionists (Matthew 21:31).
Obedience is the fruit of saving faith and yet our obedience doesn’t save us. According to this passage, you are under a spirit of witchcraft – to think your own works-righteousness, law-keeping saves you:
“O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you? 2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? 3 Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?” Galatians 3:1-3
Think about this that Jesus says from perhaps a new perspective … “IF you love me, keep my commandments” …. perhaps He is saying “If you don’t love me, don’t bother obeying Me, because that is futility.” Good works/obedience, fruit are borne out of an abiding relationship. It’s about relationship, not earning our own way I know this well as I was out of balance for many years. I am not seeing this as an argument … just discussing, okay?
There is no cross, no crucified life in the message of the sinless perfectionist heretics and therefore they are preaching “another gospel.” (Gal 1:6-9) The cross is the divine solution to sin and is at the center of the original Gospel and that’s the only way to be raised up out of the flesh and victorious over sin, not be mere self-effort. You are kidding no one but yourself if you believe your own good works are at the ground level of your justification before a holy God who sent His only begotten Son to do what we cannot do. – If righteousness comes out of just sheer obedience, law-keeping, then Christ is dead in vain.
“I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.” Galatians 2:21
God is holy and holiness is essential for eternal glory (Hebrews 12:14, etc.). Yet such comes about by the crucified life Jesus prescribed, the cross and the resurrection (raising up) grace of God – not by seeking to be perfect on our own, not after beginning in the Spirit and then vainly attempting to be made perfect in the flesh (Galatians 3:1-3).
“For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under GRACE.” Romans 6:14
There’s no cross and no grace (divine enablement) in the message of the sinless perfectionists and therefore their message is false. Heretical.
It’s like they seek and are boasting about their own obedience and their own self-willed sinless perfection. Nonsense. Laughable.
Overcoming must be done in and through Christ – in a real, abiding relationship with Him which sinless perfectionist frauds never mention.
Recognizing our own need to be humble, contrite, broken, and fully dependent on the LORD is what we learn in Scripture, not hiding behind sinless perfectionism but rather being authentic, honest, and realizing that without JESUS and being one with Him in an abiding relationship, we can do nothing to please God (John 15:5).
“For without me ye can do nothing.” John 15:5
It’s better to cease pretending in my opinion, in light of the whole counsel of Scripture. I am not a good person, neither are you. “There is none righteous, no, not one” (Romans 3:10). Admit it. The sooner we become HONEST with that which is more than obvious, announcing freely and transparently – that there is “NOOOO good thing” in us except CHRIST, the sooner God will begin a new, deeper work in us! (See Romans 7:18, 24.) The Cross!
We are all very imperfect and in present and perpetual need of the LORD’s saving grace which requires a born again and abiding relationship with Christ.
Those who truly follow Christ are to be fully dependent upon Him, not self, or self’s supposed perfect obedience – which is a farce. See Posture of Dependency
Lest someone should erroneously believe there is any justification for any sin, let me say this: Jesus is coming back for “a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish” (Ephesians 5:25-27), And “By mercy and truth iniquity is purged.”
“By mercy and truth iniquity is purged: and by the fear of the LORD men depart from evil.” Proverbs 16:6
This is how we can observe the ministry of Jesus and His apostles. The only people they were harsh with were the rich and the religious. They were not harsh with people who sinned and were convicted and contrite, humbled before God, seeking His mercy, repentant. The woman taken in adultery is one such example…..
Stone Casting Qualifications
Jesus never called the woman taken in adultery (John 8) or the woman who had had five husbands and was now living with another man, a whore (John 4). Jesus was not harsh with either of them. What does this say for some of these self-righteous, hate-mongering, arrogant, pharisaical, enraged, embattled, need-to-get-saved street preachers so prevalent today who openly call scantily clad women whores instead of winning them as Jesus did? Perhaps it’s the lust in their own hearts driving them? (See Romans 2:1-3.) We never see Christ needlessly provoking, condemning, screaming at, or yelling at lost sinners. WHERE did Jesus or any of His apostles possess such a hate-filled attitude other than when Jesus rebuked them in their younger years for seeking to call down fire from Heaven? Christ rebuked them with “Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of” (Luke 9:54-55).
DID Cain murder his brother Abel because of Abel’s sins or his own?
“Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother’s righteous.” 1 John 3:12
Those who slander others do so because of the wickedness that exists in their own hearts.
No Sin to Deal with?
1 John 1:8-10 should be kept in mind…. synthesized, right? Yes…… 1 Corinthians 2:13
“If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.” 1 John 1:8-10
If we are saved by our supposed obedience, we all fall short, right? Should we not rather trust in the perfect obedience of CHRIST? Memorize Romans 4:4-5. This is in no way to excuse any sin, period (Romans 6:1-2).
“Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt. 5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.” Romans 4:4-5
WHO earned our salvation? Jesus.
“For there is not a just man upon earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not.” Ecclesiastes 7:20
FROM A SINLESS PERFECTIONIST:
REPLY:
May God find us with Christ’s righteousness, not our own …. The righteousness Jesus Christ accomplished at the cross is the only righteousness God honors, all else is “as filthy rags.”
“But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.” Isaiah 64:6
What righteousness does God see us in right now? Is it our own, or Christ’s?
“And be found IN HIM, NOT HAVING MINE OWN RIGHTEOUSNESS, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:” Philippians 3:9
Without Christ’s present saving mercy, this disciple is absolutely hopeless, sinful, and doomed. I will trust Christ’s righteousness and not my own!
“Who can say, I have made my heart clean, I am pure from my sin?” Proverbs 20:9
None is righteous by himself, on his own merit and that what sinless perfectionism teaches….. you are being fed by wolves like Finney and Desario…. you didn’t get this in the Bible, by organic personal study… that’s why there’s an imbalance…..
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