Satanic Infiltration
Witchcraft, manipulation and control are tools of evils spirits who work through Ahabs (morally weak men) and Jezebels in the church world to ultimately bring sin, sickness, and death. This is a most diabolical threat to the operation of the body of Christ today. Jesus holds the men most responsible (Revelation 2:20-24).
Those who have control issues simply have not given the control of their own lives over to the LORD and therefore operate in the witchcraft of controlling others – something that God forbids as they usurp HIS place in the lives of others. True repentance needed and to denounce the sin of self-idolatry, spiritual adultery, and witchcraft.
***Beware of those who call themselves intercessors today, namely groups of women who behind the guise of prayer are working their control, manipulations, and witchcraft for their master Satan (whether wittingly or unwittingly). They are lifting up what they think are powerful prayers, but they are carnally driven. Therefore they wield the sword of witchcraft. What I mean by that is they project soulish prayers by yelling, demanding, repetitious, screaming at the top of their lungs in the name of spiritual warfare.
Even the sending out prayers and breaking this and that over people can be witchcraft….. much of what is called “spiritual warfare” today in the apostate modern church is actually “spiritual witchcraft.” God will not deliver any person who will not turn their heart toward Him in real repentance (2 Corinthians 3:14-16; James 4:7). We should simply ask God in Jesus’ name and trust Him to do things and stay clear of adding to that simple Scriptural prescription. “Let your requests be made know unto God.” (Philippians 4:6)
Biblical Deliverance Prescription-Wholeness in Christ [podcast]
THE ONLY WAY TO ESCAPE THE EVIL ONE CONTROLLING YOUR LIFE IS SUBMISSION TO GOD WHICH BEGINS WITH UNRESERVED REPENTANCE THEN RESULTS IN ABIDING FELLOWSHIP (JAMES 4:7).
These ladies are presumptuously demanding their own self-serving desires for an outcome that is not the will of the FATHER and some that oppose Scripture. They are not truly repentant with laid down lives and therefore are not seeking the sovereign will of our heavenly FATHER.
“Be careful for nothing; but in every thing by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known unto God.” Philippians 4:6
In Scripture, there is no mention for a specific calling or ministry for a special core of intercessors. In other words, there doesn’t seem to be a specific intercessory ministry listed in Scripture as in there aren’t just a few special people called out to do this and organize themselves as we see done today. Interceding is for all believers, not just a specific group of individuals. ALL believers are to intercede in prayer to the Father through the Great Intercessor Jesus (Hebrews 7:24-25, etc.). These that we are speaking of here act as if THEY are the reason things are coming to pass or prayers are being answered. One of the characteristics of Jezebels who are allowed to operate is that they take undue glory to themselves for things happening – acting as if THEIR prayers were the only reason that things happened. Jezebel is known by her complete SELF-absorption. They are very self-important. By that I mean they seek to subtly draw attention to themselves as “mighty warriors” for Christ who are more important than others. Any Bible student knows that this is totally un-christlike (Matthew 18:3-4; Philippians 2:3-5). Many of those who call themselves intercessors today are nothing more than a coven of witches planted right in the middle of some local churches (namely the IHOP, NAR, charismatic, KC, dominionism). Satan has targeted and infiltrated the “sanctuary.” (Psalms 74:4-7) There are pastor’s wives whom their husbands also erroneously call “pastors.” And, they train the gullible congregation to do the same. Using that unbiblical title (for a woman) to draw attention to themselves, feigning legitimacy, these women lead up intercessory prayer groups that are nothing more than of jezebellian witches who wield control over the pastor and the decisions. Beware. Pass this warning on.
History does repeat itself (Ecclesiastes 1:9). Right where you’d assume the truth would be communicated there was falsehood. Principally this represents all that claims to be representing Christ, the Christian leaders, local churches, etc.
“Therefore thus saith the LORD of hosts concerning the prophets; Behold, I will feed them with wormwood, and make them drink the water of gall: for from the prophets of Jerusalem is profaneness gone forth into all the land.” Jeremiah 23:15
Jerusalem was the place of God’s people, the capitol city of their nation and yet “from the prophets of Jerusalem is profaneness gone forth into all the land.”
Women praying is a huge blessing. PRAYER is taught to us throughout God’s Word. What we are getting at here is the misuse of it. The power, access, righteousness, and glory is only in the Great Mediator though no matter who is praying (1 Timothy 2:5). “NO flesh should glory in his presence.” (1 Corinthians 1:29) Prayer misused to control God and others is witchcraft. Any person (like myself) who has been a part of an NAR or charismatic or so-called prophetic church knows about this.
“Yes, and Amen! Most of the intercessory prayer groups are a cover for a place of ill-gotten power!” Mark
Luanne Hisle sets the record straight when she writes:
“I don’t mean to be rude but “intercessor” as a title??? What’s that all about? I believe the Bible teaches that we ALL have the same access to the Lord through prayer in Jesus’ name. I used to consider myself a so-called ‘intercessor’ too but I have since learned that is just prideful terminology. My prayers have an equal but no greater chance of being heard by the Lord than anyone else’s. All believers’ prayers are heard by the Lord and are answered according to His will. Sometimes the answer is yes; sometimes it is no; and sometimes it is wait a little while. I am just hoping that those who use this title of ‘intercessor’ will think about this. Giving yourself a title like that just comes across somehow as being a little arrogant or something.”
Deceivers utilize and hide behind prayer, healing, and deliverance as a facade/smokescreen to make it look like they have good intentions. Yet, there is no purity or biblical accuracy in what these groups are doing. In fact, many of them are being utilized of the enemy of souls, right in the middle of the church world while feigning to be of God. After all, who’s going to question the emphasis on prayer, healing, and deliverance, right? Well, beware because there are people who are organized by their “deliverance” and “healing” ministries. Beware when you hear these terms being used to name a ministry because this should immediately indicate imbalance. The remnant disciple of Christ identifies with Him – the nail-scarred risen Savior – and all of who He is and what He came to do and not just one of His ministry components. Most, if not every so-called healing or deliverance ministry I have ever encountered needed healing and deliverance themselves. Beware!
The divine command to “FORGET NOT ALL His benefits” is important (Psalms 103:2) Remember that none of the abuse of truth negates or diminishes from the blessed salvation that is Christ – who is immoveable and unchanging. We must never blame God or neglect the benefits revealed in His Word because deceived souls have perverted it.
The LORD provided a complete salvation which includes forgiveness of sins, divine empowerment, healing, deliverance, answered prayer, and a myriad of “benefits.” (Psalms 103:2; Luke 4:18; Acts 1:8, etc.).
“Bless the Lord, O my soul: and all that is within me, bless his holy name. 2 Bless the Lord, O my soul, and forget not all his benefits: 3 Who forgiveth all thine iniquities; who healeth all thy diseases; 4 Who redeemeth thy life from destruction; who crowneth thee with lovingkindness and tender mercies; 5 Who satisfieth thy mouth with good things; so that thy youth is renewed like the eagle’s.” Psalms 103:1-5
“All his benefits” come as a result of knowing Jesus and are not to be used to manipulate, deceive, and draw attention to oneself or a supposed “ministry.”
“Jezebel and her Witchcrafts”
To the son of Ahab and Jezebel, the prophet cited “the whoredoms of thy mother Jezebel and her witchcrafts are so many?” (2 Kings 9:22) Many wolves have given way to – suffered/allowed Jezebel to subversively operate under the guise of doing ministry for Christ. Jesus addresses this specifically in Revelation 2:20-24. Jezebel is metaphoric of the original Jezebel who ruled out of her rebellion and by means of manipulation, deceit, and cunning craftiness. When compromising, weak, rebellious men suffer/allow a woman or women to operate outside of God’s ordained role for them, that opens the door for that evil antichrist spirit of Jezebel to wreak havoc, bringing death and destruction. In the household or church, when women begin to use the feminine gifts God gave them to manipulate men for their own selfish gain, it is brazen Jezebellian witchcraft. Jesus only used the phrase “the depths of Satan” once and He was specifically referring to the allowance of women operating outside God’s ordained purpose for them (Jezebel). See Revelation 2:20-24.
“Witchcraft” is listed as a soul-damning work of the flesh (Galatians 5:19-21). Witchcraft boils down to rebellion and control. When a person is rebelling against God and therefore not giving over control of their life to Him, they will try to control Him and others. The LORD never sanctioned any human being to control another human being. Any of us is capable of seeking to control others (witchcraft) when we are not giving the LORD the control of our own personal lives. This is a sin and, the last time I checked, it’s a full-time job keeping ourselves under the control or leadership of Christ and His Holy Spirit (Romans 8:12-14).
“Jezebel cut off the prophets of the Lord.” (1 Kings 18:4) Folks, Jezebel (spirit of antichrist) warred fiercely against Elijah and the prophets of God and will continue to war against the true servants of the LORD. In fact, gentlemen, if you are not drawing fire from Jezebel, you may wish to examine your life with Christ. Your fruitfulness in relation to Him is in question. You know, it should greatly concern us if a Jezebel isn’t attacking us for Christ’s – the Truth’s – sake. When Jezebel attacks, “rejoice” because you are like Elijah, a man of truth! (Matthew 5:10-12)
Naboth, Ahab, Jezebel – 1 Kings 21
Jezebel rewards those Christ-rejecting compromisers whom she has captured and who are in the grasp of her dark hand. Example: She got Naboth’s vineyard for Ahab and fed, clothed, and provided for the false prophets who compromised the truth for temporal gain (1 Kings 21; 18:19b). She viciously attacks those who oppose her illegitimate authority as she did with Elijah. Those who refuse to join her rebellion become her target as was the case of Elijah and Naboth. Jezebel seeks to kill anyone who opposes her as she had Naboth killed by false accusation and stoning (1 Kings 21). After killing Naboth Ahab received his cursed reward – an award that was ill-gotten by wicked Jezebel. After killing Naboth, Ahab and Jezebel took over his property and position. They slayed their victim to obtain his goods (21:18) but their “success” is short lived and yet their judgment will be eternal (1 Kings 21:19-24). The same is true today – Ahabs or weak men who do not obey God’s order “suffereth” or allow Jezebels to usurp places of leadership God never ordained and they falsely accuse, slay, and exploit their victims. But Jesus says He will “kill her children with death.” (Revelation 2:20-24) This evil spirit behind is in full operation today. Jezebel kills her opponent, that is, anyone who dares oppose her and her agenda. She then takes over their property and position. Like the original Jezebel, her reign will be short lived and her suffering eternal. The LORD holds men accountable. Jezebel rewards the weak minded Ahabs (morally spineless men) who submit to her illegitimate authority (1 Kings 21:19; 18:19b). As He did in the case of Ahab and Jezebel, God holds that man responsible – “But there was none like unto Ahab, which did sell himself to work wickedness in the sight of the Lord, whom Jezebel his wife stirred up.” (1 Kings 21:25) As He did in this case, he will also eternally judge the Jezebels but begins with judgment upon the non-negotiable male headship (Ahab). Men will answer to the LORD for what God has made them responsible over. Being weak is no option since the man is called to fear and serve the LORD first and foremost and supremely – regardless of the cost.
“Give not thy strength unto women, nor thy ways to that which destroyeth kings.” Proverbs 31:3
Like Lemuel’s mother (see verse above), God-fearing women always teach their boys (in child training) not to give their strength, role, or calling/authority over to women because God holds the male responsible. Perhaps there is no better place for a young boy to learn this truth than from his own mother. God will hold the man accountable first and foremost and not the woman and so young boys must be taught this in the fear of the LORD. The LORD demonstrates that he will even hold the man (Ahab) accountable in cases involving the infamous, original Jezebel (1 Kings 21). The Ahabs of today are the same as the original Ahab who enabled Jezebel. We are given this information and insight for our own learning in this late hour (Romans 15:4; 1 Corinthians 10:11). Ahabs are morally spineless men who enable the Jezebel(s) around them by not stepping up to lead in the authority of Christ which is only granted to those men who truly fear and literally serve Him. In their absence in refusing to lead, the Jezebel is emboldened to seek to fill that void. This truth should quicken all God-fearing men to hasten to the LORD in obedience concerning their own personal daily lives with Jesus, their families, wives, children, and ministry serving. Notice how that Jezebel rewards the morally spineless, weak-minded Ahabs who submit to her illegitimate authority (1 Kings 21:19; 18:19b). She entices them with provision, a steady paycheck, and other benefits to gain their idolatrous, man-pleasing allegiance. The men who choose to serve the LORD instead of compromising with “the spirit of antichrist” working through Jezebel individuals and ministries pay a big price. They are ousted, shunned, and starved. This is why we need more Obadiahs in this late hour. Obadiahs put their money where their mouth is and ransom their lives to protect and provide for God’s true servants whom He has called out and who speak His naked truth without compromise (1 Kings 18:4).
Jezebel Stirs Up Rebellion
While the God-fearing woman’s effect is to prayerfully and quietly curtail and diminish evil, Jezebel does just the opposite. Watch this:
“But there was none like unto Ahab, which did sell himself to work wickedness in the sight of the Lord, whom Jezebel his wife stirred up. 26 And he did very abominably in following idols, according to all things as did the Amorites, whom the Lord cast out before the children of Israel.” 1 Kings 21:25-26 (KJV)
Instead of Jezebel being used of the LORD to bring conviction to Ahab by her “meek and quiet spirit,” she boisterously and brazenly takes up the mantle of leadership reserved for the man (1 Peter 3:4). The excuse she uses is that everyone is wrong (except her of course) and no men are standing forth and doing God’s will. Jezebels learn a few verses and then run off thinking they are fit to lead men, exercising authority over men which is a rebellion against the clear teachings of Scripture (1 Corinthians 14:33-35; 1 Timothy 2:11-14). One woman who fears God wrote this of today’s Jezebels:
“I do indeed think that the Lord knows absolutely best and if in any way I go against the Lord, I pray the rod of correction will come my way. Eternity is at stake here. We women are too quick to self-justify ourselves according to our own self-serving motives even in subtle ways thinking and even saying ‘God knows my heart.’ But your heart doesn’t matter and what you mean to be doing (your misguided intention) doesn’t matter if you are opposing the Word of God which is the truth by which we stand or fall.”
Without qualification, Jesus promised: “I will kill her (Jezebel’s) children with death.” Jezebel “stirred up” her husband to do evil (1 Kings 21:25). Her rebellion encouraged Ahab to sin more profoundly and brought death and destruction to more souls in Israel including their own lineage. By her rejection of Christ and His Word, Jezebel is given over to the master of puppets himself (Satan) and is a tool in his evil hand to bring forth death to many (Revelation 2:20-24). Jesus told us that Satan is come “to steal, and to kill, and to destroy.” (John 10:10)
“Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols. 21 And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not. 22 Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds. 23 And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works. 24 But unto you I say, and unto the rest in Thyatira, as many as have not this doctrine, and which have not known the depths of Satan, as they speak; I will put upon you none other burden.” Revelation 2:20-24
Now, contrast the God-fearing virtuous daughter of the Most High with what we just learned about Jezebel and her daughters who are plentiful today:
“Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives; 2 While they behold your chaste conversation coupled with fear. 3 Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel; 4 But let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price. 5 For after this manner in the old time the holy women also, who trusted in God, adorned themselves, being in subjection unto their own husbands: 6 Even as Sara obeyed Abraham, calling him lord: whose daughters ye are, as long as ye do well, and are not afraid with any amazement. 7 Likewise, ye husbands, dwell with them according to knowledge, giving honour unto the wife, as unto the weaker vessel, and as being heirs together of the grace of life; that your prayers be not hindered.” 1 Peter 3:1-7
Now, go read 2 Kings 9. More on Jezebel here. Jezebel | Women Who Fear God Audio | Witchcraft in the Pulpits | Nicolaitan Nightmare | Witchcraft in the Church | Are You Under the Spell of Witchcraft? | Getting Delivered from Witchcraft
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“I understand Jezebel is in the Church and I expose ‘it’ in my book. But not all women’s groups or Intercessors are witchcraft and Jezebel as most like to silence women today with that name calling. This spirit also operates in men and there are men’s intercessory groups too. Its a spirit not a person although she was the queen to king Ahab in the old testament. Am a Woman, an Intercessor by calling and pray with groups of women and men. Now is this? witchcraft? How do you explain Romana 8:26? What did Jesus turn to the women and say in Luke 23:28? How can he generalize all women’s intercessory groups??? This is not of the HOLY Spirit of my living JESUS!” Greta
REPLY:
“I’VE HAD TOO MANY JEZEBEL WITCHES ENTER MY MINISTRY PRETENDING TO BE SWEET SISTERS. THEY STUDY US, TURN ON US, TO SEEK TO SLAY, TO KILL GOD’S PREACHERS WITH SLANDER. THE JEZEBEL SPIRIT IS WITCHCRAFT A DESTROYER.” LJ
“AMEN………….i am quite leery of those who DEMAND what they WANT in prayer, saying we must TAKE what we want, DEMANDING our prize NOW…………exactly what is the prize?………….i don’t want it………i will pray in humble submission for HIS WILL!” Yvonne S.
“They Don’t Pray God’s Word Over People & Situations But What They Want To Happen Meditating Really Hard Or Passively To Make It All Happen … They Punish Those Who Pray God’s Word Over Everything … God’s Will … God’s Plan … God’s Decision About Any Given Matter …” Toni H.
“This is a powerful message full of truth. I listened to the videos and they were really good. There is so much of this going on in the church that we really need to have the discernment in our daily lives. Thank you brother. You are right on target. God Bless;)” Carol B.
“I have always said this and will say it till the day I am no longer living in this universe…Know God and Know His Word. Do not be deceived. Any part of the body drawing attention to themselves as being the greater (Gal.3:28), Beware. It is a shame what you tell here, however it is so true. Keep your eyes upon Jesus and the Word of God (ONLY) amen… The Holy Spirit is the Leader of the Body. He alone uses us, instructs us, leads us … not man!” Joan R.
“You are right sir. The so-called church is so chaotic with dangerous witchcraft and their evil manipulation prayer. They are luring millions to hell. ” Bulus S.
“Nice. Thanks for telling it like it is. I have seen this happen, and it usually glorifies themselves – and belittles the men in the church. I have even seen a church where a woman was offering special teaching meetings held in the church basically on “how to pray.” The men were supposed to be good little students while she taught – so they could absorb from her wisdom. Yikes. Very needed teaching. Grace and peace.” Chris S.
“Thanks! Very timely and vital message from you.” unknown
“I am so thankful that you are addressing these subjects brother. Short personal story: I went to one intercession group by this woman and her husband and another couple who were close friends of theirs. A horrible spirit of control -Jezebel spirit was all over this woman who hosted it at her home; leading this prayer group. It was just terrible TODD and a lot of folks came; men and women. She would always interrupt others as they prayed if she did not like the way it was going; Afterwards the two couples would have their own private post critique of the prayer time.. She would get angry at people and very impatient and interrupt to take control again. Well the FATHER ended this group of over twenty folks. It went on for about 6 months or so. She would call people if she was not happy with how the intercession went. I never forget it.” Marsha O.
Message Received:
“I agree…the world and the church has strayed so far from the Lord’s standards that if you openly state any of this information then you are accused of woman-hating or twisting scripture. When it is the exact opposite. Before I was born again, my world was a rat-race, godless and often times I felt insecure. I realize that the reason for the way I was feeling was b/c of the way I was living. When you get into the Word of God, you see there is an order and a place for all of us and when we decide to stray outside of that order, we face uncertainty. It is much more comforting to live the way God planned for us to live b/c He knows us inside and out and what we need. I am glad I found my way home b/c the world will use and abuse a woman and then she will turn around and do the same thing to the men through the “spirit of Jezebel.” Men and women have forgotten their roles.” Jenny D.
Reply:
Jenny, that one floored me … SO true … I get accused of that often … but by His grace I always try to point out that it’s the MEN who allow this when they are supposed to be leading, protecting, serving, honoring God and women … the weaker vessels … the word “suffereth” in Rev. 2:20-24 means TO ALLOW … that simple truth alone opens up the understanding of that passage about Jezebel…
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Water Baptism: Understanding It [study guide]
“Repent and be baptized.” Acts 2:38
Water Baptism (PDF)
(Duplication encouraged. An open King James Bible should accompany your study of this topic. Carefully, prayerfully study each verse given in order to answer each question correctly. Print this document out and pencil in the answers in the blanks provided. It may be best to cut and paste it to your word processing software and then print it out. Your life in Christ will be enriched forever as you embrace and put into practice His Word.)
Water baptism is important. Every believer should understand and be water baptized. Yet water baptism does not save – but is only for those already saved. The blood of Jesus saves – upon repentance and faith. In short, water baptism symbolizes/illustrates the life in Christ we now have – where daily, we are dying and buried and risen in new life with Christ. Concerning water baptism, one disciple writes: “We must faith thru many mini-daily-baptisms in which we are immersed into calamities and the old self is drowned.”
SATAN wants people trusting in water and not the BLOOD of Jesus. Beware. We are saved by the blood of Jesus – water baptism is for those who have already repented and believed upon Jesus Christ. It’s an outward profession of the inward work of regeneration God has already done! (Titus 3:5-7)
“And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and WITHOUT SHEDDING OF BLOOD IS NO REMISSION.” Hebrews 9:22
ANY person who claims sinners are justified by water instead of the BLOOD of Jesus, is an antichrist.
“Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.” Romans 5:9
Salvation should never be complicated.
We are saved, justified by grace through faith.
Can you find the word water in the following passage? No.
“For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.” Ephesians 2:8-9
Thief on the cross. Philippian jailer. Acts 16:30-31; Faith. Romans 5:1-2; Ephesians 2:8-9.
Raised to New Life with Christ
“Now I praise you, brethren, that ye remember me in all things, and keep the ordinances, as I delivered them to you.” 1 Corinthians 11:2
The LORD seems to have given His New Testament church 2 ordinances: 1. Water baptism – to depict our own death, burial, and resurrection with Christ, and 2. Communion – where we are brought into remembrance of our LORD’s death – broken body and shed blood – which alone redeems us.
Note in this passage below that no water is even mentioned and yet this is exactly what water baptism is symbolic of:
“Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? 4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.” Romans 6:3-4
WATER BAPTISM: What it is and what it’s not. In some cases, water baptism has become a ritual among those who are a part of the visible, apostate church world. In those circles, water baptism seems to be a type of right of passage in a fleshly way. Water baptism is useless unless it’s connected with Christ, that is, in His redemption – death, burial and resurrection. He alone redeemed us and yet, He calls us to deny self, and allow Him who is the resurrection and the life to raise us upward (John 11:25; Romans 8:11; 2 Corinthians 4:10-12, etc.). Water baptism – going down under that water – is meant to be the symbolism of dying, being buried, and being raised up into a new life with Christ who is “the life” (John 14:6). The old man is dead and buried! See Colossians 3:3, and read Romans 6:3-4. Water baptism was never intended to become a ritual but rather the symbol of that which begun at the instant Christ saved us. The crucified, dead, buried, and raised up life comes at the moment Jesus saves us, We are dead and He now lives in us as Redeemer, Ruler and King, Savior, and Friend. The life of the crucified believe is symbolized at water baptism (Galatians 2:20). Water baptism is a representation of what is to be a life lived allowing Christ to reign in place. It’s symbolic of the daily cross! – Where Christ alone reigns supreme!
Water baptism saves no one. No, it’s merely a picture of your life now that Christ saved you – your personal daily death, burial, resurrection (2 Corinthians 4:10-12, etc.). God saved you the moment you repented and believed on Jesus (Acts 20:21, etc.). And now He’s ordained that you “walk in newness of life.” (Romans 6:4)
“Water baptism symbolizes your spiritual identification with Christ in His death, burial, and resurrection. The water does not itself join you to or identify you with Christ. It is only a symbol. It’s not even a requirement yet important due to the importance of what it is representative of. Water baptism is not a law like circumcision was. It is not essential. The thief on cross next to Christ was never water baptized but he was baptized in spiritual fact.”
One of the main points here on topics like this is priority, putting the first things first and not adding to what is essential to salvation. And yet it is biblically accurate that water baptism should be put forth as something Jesus commands, because He does.
Beware of the baptismal regeneration heresy. A thorough reading of the New Testament Scriptures reveals to us that water baptism saves no one. Saying people are saved by being water baptized is just another fake salvation – another excuse not to have to repent, lay down the life in this fleeting world, deny self, take up the cross daily and follow Jesus – on His stated terms, right? Sinners are in darkness and the unrepentant love to hear that they are not required to repent which means to change course, to give one’s life up to the LORD who made us all.
So “saved” doesn’t mean saved in Acts 16:31? Where O Where is the water? The water baptism didn’t happen till after the jailer and his family were “saved” (Acts 16:33). “Sirs, what must I do to be saved? 31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.” Acts 16:30-31
“By faith” appears 37 times in the Word of God. “By water” appears 4 times.
Without what is it impossible to please God? Faith or water?
“But without faith it is impossible to please him.” Hebrews 11:6
Is salvation “by faith” in the only Redeemer, or by water? Water baptism is totally futile, a 100% complete waste without being first saved by Christ through FAITH (Romans 3-5; Ephesians 2:8-9, etc.).
“And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized? 37 And Philip said, IF thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.” Acts 8:36-37
When the Ethiopian eunuch asked to be baptized in water, Philip told him he had to believe on the LORD Jesus Christ first – as a prerequisite! – “IF THOU BELIEVEST WITH ALL THINE HEART, THOU MAYEST.” Also…. many of the fake “bibles” removed Acts 8:37. The devil is a liar!!!! Let’s use the King James Bible saints!!!! Let’s trash satan’s corruption.
Recently I had an in-depth conversation with a man who was over emphasizing water baptism and after a lengthy discussion he said he’d “said enough.” To him I wrote:
“You’ve certainly told me enough and showed you are misled by what you’ve stated. And you claim it came by revelation. It sure didn’t come from divine revelation.”
REPLY:
“Notice how you lifted Acts 16:33 out of it’s context. WHAT came BEFORE the water baptism and without which the water baptism was futile?
‘And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved? 31And they said, BELIEVE on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house. 32 And they spake unto him the word of the Lord, and to all that were in his house. 33 And he took them the same hour of the night, and washed their stripes; and was baptized, he and all his, straightway.’ Acts 16:30-33
Christ saves by faith not water. Water baptism is only effectual if the person is first saved by the blood through faith.
‘Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: 25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;’ Romans 3:24-25
Of course water baptism is important but it’s not the essential, believing is.
Satan’s agenda is to remove the focus from Christ and His blood without which there is ‘NO remission of sins’ (Hebrews 9:22). That’s what we see here.
Those who like to focus on the water do so because they are moral cowards who refuse to truly repent which is something that must occur in their hearts.”
The thief on the cross was not water baptized, yet Jesus told him “To day shalt thou be with me in paradise” (Luke 23:43).
Water baptism is only for those already saved. Here’s a New Testament example of how these disciples were first saved and filled with the Holy Spirit, only then were they water baptized.
“For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter, 47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we? 48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.” Acts 10:46-48
The only value that water baptism has is in identifying you with the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ!
One disciple wrote:
“The only way to promotion is by demotion. Are you today seeking a demotion? Do you want self to be advanced, enhanced, prominent, recognized, satisfied, aggrandized, indulged, promoted, noticed, or applauded? Or do you want self demoted, crucified, and killed to all these worldly things?”
Perhaps loving obedience and gratitude to the Lord should be the foundational motives for the believer being water baptized. When a person genuinely repents of his sins and receives Jesus Christ, He is then under the command of a new Master. He is no longer a member of Satan’s kingdom, but rather has been delivered from the power of darkness and translated into God’s kingdom of light (Colossians 1:13). His past sins have been completely washed away by the blood of Christ, and God has called him by name to serve Him in sincerity and in truth (Romans 3:25; 1 Cor. 5:7-8).
Jesus commands all of His disciples to be baptized in water. In demonstration of our love for Him, every believer should obey and follow the LORD in water baptism. He says, “If ye love me, keep my commandments” (John 14:15).
1. As seen in Scripture, what does the actual act of being water baptized consist of – in the literal sense? Acts 8:38 Please read this verse in the King James Bible and check one of the following.
_____ splashing with water
_____ sprinkling with water as an infant
_____ fully submerging the body under water
Notice that Philip and the eunuch “went down both into the water” (Acts 8:38). The English word “baptize” comes from the Greek word BAPTIZO which means to dip, submerge; to make whelmed, fully wet. Baptism is a burial.
Water baptism should always be in actual water and not sprinkling or pouring water on the new believer being baptized. This is because of what it represents; not a mere sprinkling but rather a whole immersion, a going under and being completely whelmed – representing being now dead, buried, and raised up.
2. Read 1 Peter 3:21 closely. Note here that water baptism does not cleanse one from the “filth of the flesh (sin).” Trust in that which baptism is a “figure” of, does cleanse from sin and save the soul. The word “figure” is the key to understanding this verse. Read it again. Being dipped in water does not save the soul. What saves the soul is faith in what water baptism is figurative or symbolic of – the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ. Water baptism merely answers to the already blood-washed conscience of the Believer. It is an outward testimony of the inward work of God in making the repentant person completely new from the inside out (2 Cor. 5:17-18).
Christ must reign in the daily life of every believer and He is “Holy, holy, holy” and so sinfulness must be put away so that the believer can spring forth into the fullness of Christ’s resurrection life (Isaiah 6:3; Revelation 4:8). Baptism in water is the figure of this process. It’s a death, burial, and resurrection. Water baptism is symbolic of death to the sinful nature and resurrection into a life lived in the nature of Jesus and out of God’s abundant grace which fills the believer’s heart.
3. Did Jesus submit Himself to water baptism? Matthew 3:13-16
_______YES
_______NO
Water baptism was practiced by the Son of God.
4. How old was Jesus when He was baptized? Luke 3:21-23
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Notice here that Jesus was a full grown adult when water baptized. Only those who are of age to understand and partake of the salvation of God are candidates for water baptism. Infant baptism or sprinkling is un-scriptural.
5. Did Jesus’ disciples practice water baptism in their ministry? John 4:1, 2
_______YES
_______NO
Jesus’ disciples and the early Church believers water baptised all new converts.
6. Jesus sent His disciples forth to “teach all nations.” What else did He command them to do? Matthew 28:19; Mark 16:16
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Mark 16:16 does NOT say “he that is not baptized shall not be saved.” No Jesus says “he that believeth not shall be damned.” He put the essential on believing, not water baptism. Here are Christ’s words: “He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned” (Mark 16:16). The believing is the essential, not water baptism, otherwise Jesus would have said “he that believeth and is not baptized shall be damned.” He did not.
7. In what names did Jesus command His disciples to baptize? Matthew 28:18-19
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The name of Jesus Christ equals the authority of Jesus Christ.
“Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.” Acts 2:38
Here in Matthew 28:18-19, Jesus authorized baptism in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. When Scripture speaks of baptism in Jesus’ Name, it is referring to baptism by His authority. So, some disciples safely perform water baptism by saying: “You are now being baptized in the name, in the authority of Jesus Christ, in the name of the Father, the Son, and Holy Ghost.” Does this not cover all basis? I think so.
8. What were the three fundamental New Testament experiences preached and practiced by the early Church? Acts 2:38
A.____________________________________________________
B.____________________________________________________
C.____________________________________________________
9. Has God changed since Acts 2:38? Malachi 3:6; Hebrews 13:8
_______YES
_______NO
Note that God, by the mouth of Peter, commanded the new believers to “Repent and be baptized every one of you” (Acts 2:38).
10. What experience did the three thousand new converts partake of when they received the Word of God that Peter preached? Acts 2:41
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As was clearly understood by the early followers of Jesus, the first step in discipling a new convert is to baptize him in water. This is the Lord’s first commandment to new believers. God seals the faith of the new convert at the time of water baptism. The new believer makes a statement of trust toward God in his water baptism experience and is confirmed in the faith by the Holy Spirit through this New Testament practice.
11. After Phillip preached the Gospel, what did the believers at Samaria do to openly declare their faith in Jesus? Acts 8:12
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12. After Philip preached Jesus, what was the Ethiopian eunuch’s immediate question? Acts 8:35, 36
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The Ethiopian eunuch had obviously made a heart-felt decision to believe on Jesus. He instantly desired to be baptized in water to exhibit his new found faith.
13. What did Philip tell the eunuch that he must do before he could be water baptized? Acts 8:37
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The Bible only authorizes water baptism after the born again experience. Philip told the eunuch that the prerequisite for water baptism is to be born into the kingdom of God by personally receiving Jesus Christ. Here is another proof that the early Church disciples only baptized those who had already received Jesus.
God set forth as a pattern in the first century Church, believers who were zealous to baptize new converts in water. This solidifies the new converts’ faith in Jesus. Water baptism is the first command given to the new believer, and is therefore the responsibility of the members of the Body of Christ to see that every new believer is baptized.
14. What did the apostle Peter “command” the new Gentile converts to do after they had believed on Jesus and also received the gift of the Holy Ghost? Acts 10:43-48
v48 __________________________________________________
15. What did Paul and Silas do to the Philippian jailor who believed on the Lord after the jailbreak? Acts 16:25-34
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Note that Paul and Silas baptized these new believers without delay and in the middle of the night. This very act makes two authoritative statements: (1) If at all possible, disciples should water baptize new converts immediately following their salvation experience, and (2) The apostles counted water baptism very important, it was an integral part of the Gospel they preached and administered.
16. When “many” of the Corinthian’s “believed”, what followed? Acts 18:8
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17. As followers of Jesus what are we baptized into? Romans 6:3
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To the believer the water grave signifies that the time of living after the sinful nature of the flesh is over. This burial represents death to the nature of sin and resurrection into the life of God. Jesus Himself was baptized to signify His own death, burial, and resurrection. The follower of Jesus in like manner is to be baptized, signifying death to the old man and resurrection into the new nature of God resident within him. Sin lost its power at Calvary, and loses its dominion over the believer when he identifies with Christ in water baptism. In water baptism, the believer identifies with Jesus. All true disciples are crucified with Christ and water baptism is the marked beginning of this state of existence (Gal. 2:20, 5:24; Rom. 6:11). It is his announcement to deny himself, take up his cross, and follow Jesus.
18. What is the believer to “walk in” after God raises him from the dead? Romans 6:4
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Beloved, God has called you to “walk in newness of life.” The believer must be “dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord” (Romans 6:11). Water baptism is so very important because it introduces the new believer into the life to which God has called him – a life of death and resurrection. The old person and his deeds are dead. “For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God” (Colossians 3:3). The disciple is to live separate from sin. “If any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new. And all things are of God” 2 (Corinthians 5 :17,18).
19. What are two reasons that we are to be “crucified” with Jesus? Romans 6:6
A. __________________________________________________
B. __________________________________________________
Water baptism is a public announcement of your decrease and His increase (John 3:30). God can only raise up those things that are dead. To resurrect is to raise to life again – to cause something or someone once alive to live again. One must die to the things of this world to live in the resurrected life of Jesus. This is a must if one will be His disciple (John 12:24-26). To live in the resurrection life of God one must be dead to the sins of the flesh. The definition of being “dead” to sin, is living life as if sin didn’t even exist in the sense that one is separate from it – you do not partake of it in spirit, soul, or body.
Water baptism is the beginning of the life lived after the Spirit instead of after the flesh. It’s a heartfelt broadcast to the Lord, the world, and the devil that you are now going to be true to the Most High God by living in holy conformity to the Lord Jesus Christ. At the moment of baptism God imparts a sufficient measure of grace to enable the believer to walk out his new life in Christ.
20. Why do you personally believe that baptism in water is so important in God’s eyes?
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God has saved you and has set you apart to live after His nature that He has imparted to you (Rom. 6, 8). You are a new creature in Christ Jesus and God requires that you make this known (Matthew 10:32, 33). Jesus was fearless and unashamed when He came to the earth to do His Father’s will and die for the sins of the world. He requires that His disciples be bold and unashamed in testifying of His work of redemption. Water baptism should be the first act of obedience rendered by the disciple of Jesus.
21. What does Jesus do for all who “confess” Him before men? Matthew 10:32
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22. What does Jesus do to all those who “deny” Him before men? Matthew 10:33
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Water baptism is an open declaration of one’s identification with and faith in Jesus. Water baptism is generally the new believer’s first act of confession before men. It should be the personal and spoken testimony of the believer about to be baptized. The new convert should be given time to give account of his born again experience and God’s work presently in progress in his life.
IF YOU HAVE NOT YET BEEN WATER BAPTIZED, OBEY THE LORD BY ARRANGING A TIME AND PLACE TO PUBLICLY TESTIFY OF YOUR NEW LIFE IN JESUS CHRIST BY BEING BAPTIZED.
ASSIGNMENT:
In 250 words or more, detail the ways that the Word of God should be incorporated into the daily life of the believer. (Tips for your essay’s content: study, performance, prayer, warfare, proclaiming, meditating upon, memorizing, etc.) Search the Scriptures as your source for this essay and use Scripture and references to validate your statements. Begin with deep and prayerful meditation on God’s Word. Write your essay neatly and in an organized manner.
SCRIPTURE MEMORIZATION: Matthew 28:19
It would be very advantageous for you to cross reference all of the Scriptures in this study. For example, pencil in each topically similar verse into the margin next to the corresponding verses on this same subject. Write out these verses with references on index cards – make it a priority to carry and post them where you will study and meditate upon them. These two measures will build in you a wealth of truth on each topic. This will help you to retain and become resourceful in the Word of God – ready to be used of Him. Capture the knowledge that you have learned, don’t let it slip away from you.
Capitalize on your efforts. This is preparation in earnest (2 Timothy 2:21).
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Apostasy
Favorite Eternal Security “Proof” Text? [podcast]
Excerpt from the book Lie of the Ages
Does John 10:27-29 Prove “Eternal Security”?
WHO are Jesus’ Sheep? Defined by, in God’s Word.
John 10:27-29
“My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father’s hand.” ~ John 10:27-29
Verse 27 is the condition necessary to appropriate the promises of verses 28-29.
Those who believe that a man can never lose his salvation, use this John 10:28-29 text but ignore the prerequisite, the divinely given condition – v27. Watch this:
Firstly, in this passage Jesus identifies those sheep whom He makes the security promise to. He says, “My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me.” In this we see one part divine and two parts the responsibility of the individual:
- “I know them”—the divine part toward those who are truly in Christ, presently abiding (v. 27)
- Those who are His sheep “hear” His “voice” and “follow” Him—the individual’s responsibility (v. 27)
The promise to be kept is a conditional promise which requires that we choose to continue to hear His voice and follow Him (John 10:27-29). Many today wrongly detach our LORD’s words in verse 27 from verses 28-29. In doing so, they perpetrate their “eternal security” mythology.
The problem for the eternal securists is that v27 has been intentionally been ignored…. It’s the actual condition Jesus gives for receiving the assurance promises He then gives in v28-29.
Those who seek to spread the “once saved always saved” heresy use John 10:28-29 to their advantage and conveniently ignore the preceding words of Christ in verse 27. Verses 28-29 are promises of security to those who have been genuinely born again and are currently abiding in Christ – hearing His voice and following Him (John 15:1-6). Many ignore the previous qualifying words (v. 27) of Jesus where Christ tells us that only those who are hearing His voice and following Him are promised that they are secure and will never perish. There is a condition to being secure in Christ—knowing Him—which requires continuing to abide in Him, hear His voice and follow Him (see also John 15).
“Jesus will neither leave us nor forsake us, but we can leave and forsake Him by choosing our sins OVER His love, grace and mercy!” Dino Filardo
Eternal securists have been taught to selectively interpret Scripture while ignoring mountains of Bible truth, in order to come to a predetermined conclusion.
Many a false teacher has built his own ministry empire dishonestly peddling this passage. Take a closer look. Anchor the promise to be kept in verses 28-29 on verse 27 where Jesus identifies who His sheep are – those who hear and continue to hear His voice and continue to follow Him (present tense). The promise to be kept is a glorious and yet conditional promise which requires that the individual recipient of the salvation gift of God chooses to continue to hear His voice and follow Him (John 10:27-29). Many today wrongly detach our LORD’s words in verse 27 from verses 28-29 of John 10. In doing so, they perpetrate their “eternal security” or otherwise called “once saved always saved” mythology. Beware as this was the first lie Satan told mankind, which led to the fall (Genesis 2:17; 3:4).
Instead of synthesizing the whole of Scripture, false teachers isolate certain verses for their own self-serving agenda and purpose (2 Corinthians 2:17, etc.).
The sheep Jesus’ promises are going to be kept are those who endure to the end, abide (remain) with Him (John 15:1-6). The Great Shepherd defines His sheep as those who are presently hearing His voice and following Him (present tense). John 10:27-29
It’s not difficult to mislead people in the direction of the sinful nature of their hearts – because then they can evade truly repenting which is a major life change and necessity for salvation. This is why Paul foretold of this hour and how men would “heap to themselves (false) teachers having itching ears.” (2 Timothy 4:3) “Itching ears” here represents unrepentant hearts.
OSAS people make a vain attempt at redefining the words of Scripture to fit their own self-serving agenda of lukewarmness, cross-less rebellion. For example they hyper-focus on “eternal” in the term “eternal life” while intentionally refusing to synthesize the whole of what Scripture states. They hyper-focus on the word “gift” and teach that a gift could never be lost which the rest of Scripture does not agree with. They then take the word “sealed” and make it to be permanent which it cannot possibly be because the same Greek word for “sealed” is used of Jesus’ tomb which we all know was NOT permanently sealed (Matthew 27:66). In this they bear false witness against the LORD and act like some Scriptures are more divinely inspired than others. This practice reveals the evil and deceit of their own hearts. Not just some Scripture in the Bible but rather “ALL scripture is given by inspiration of God…” (2 Timothy 3:16-17) It must all be synthesized, put together, compared (1 Corinthians 2:13). Error will result in the hearts and lives of those who do not search, study, and revere “ALL scripture” in God’s Word.
Eternal security deceivers don’t want to talk about Bible verses that contradict and expose their proof texts. You see, they don’t want to get awaken by the truth to the scam they’ve bought into. The wolves who they gullibly believe instead of God’s Word, taught them to cry “context, context” all while THEY are the beguilers who are taking Scripture out of context. Just like the demonic democrats in America, they accuse their adversaries of the exact thing THEY themselves are guilty of (Romans 2:1-3).
YOU are defending OSAS and yet you gave no Bible verses? Self-deception. If “once saved always saved” were true, WHY O WHY didn’t God tell us? Such a term, phrase, or concept appear no where in Scripture and the verses you use to “prove” it are taken out of their context. OSAS is undeniably the very first lie Satan ever told and it led to the fall of mankind from a HOLY God (Genesis 2:17; 3:4). If OSAS isn’t a doctrine of devils, nothing is! (1 Timothy 4:1-2)
Is the unchanging, Almighty God no longer “Holy, holy, holy” now that He sent His only begotten Son? (Isaiah 6:3; Revelation 4:8) If He’s still holy, no unrepentant person with sin will enter His holy Heaven (Revelation 21:8, 27, etc.).
“Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord:” Hebrews 12:14
HOW is it that so many treat the words of JESUS recorded in John 10 more divinely authoritative than the words of JESUS recorded in John 15? False teachers.
Most of the dupes who cite John 10:28-29 to “prove” they can never lose their salvation, 1. Don’t even know what the preceding verse says (v27), and 2. Have no clue what JESUS says in John 15:6.
“If a man abide (remain) not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.” John 15:6
In this John 10 passage used by the unconditional eternal security crew to peddle their wares, some neglect to look closely at verse 27 to see who Jesus was specifically speaking to when He promised “they shall never perish.” “They” refers to those who “hear my voice” and “follow me.” According to verse 27 the promise of eternal security is conditional. Assurance of salvation is only to those who are presently following Christ. In verse 27 we learn that protection from judgment to come is only to those who are currently 1) hearing His voice, 2) known by Him, and 3) following Him. This is consistent with the message seen in the whole of Holy Writ.
“For if AFTER they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are AGAIN entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. 21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, AFTER they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them. 22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit AGAIN; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.” 2 Peter 2:20-22
WHO did Jesus say His true sheep are?
“My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me” (Jn. 10:27). According to these words of Christ, those who “know” Jesus and “follow” Him are given the promise that they will “never perish.” As long as the follower hears His voice and follows Him, they are assured “eternal life.” This is exactly what the Son of God taught just a few chapters later in John 15 where He says that if a branch that is in Him does not remain or abide in Him, that person will be cut off and cast into the fire (hell).
Those who abide or remain under the shadow of His holy and protective wing shall remain secure in Him (Ps. 91:1). The Good Shepherd here said: “Neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.” No man can pluck us out of His protection except ourselves by our own decisions. We who are abiding are protected from the snare of other men drawing us away as we remain walking with the Son of God. If you’re tucked, you won’t get plucked. If you’re not tucked under the wing of intimacy with Jesus, you will, can, and are likely to be plucked out of His holy hand by your own sinful unbelief. The LORD told us “Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown” (Rev. 3:11).
It’s also notable that those who emphasize John 10 to convince themselves and others that they are “eternally secure”, don’t even know much less acknowledge the words of the Savior in John 15:1-6.
Telling.
“If a man abide (remain) not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.” John 15:6
Jesus taught repeatedly that some would not continue to follow Him (“abide”) and hear His voice and would consequently “fall away.” There is record of some who once believed and then stopped believing (Lk. 8:13; 13:23-30; Jn. 6:66; Acts 8:14-23).
WHY do eternal securists get all upset when their fairy tale is exposed? Well, they are hiding behind the thin veneer of this heresy, feeling all secure, emboldened to live as they please, feeling assured in their lukewarmness and sin … denying Jesus instead of self, refusing to take up the cross that Jesus commanded all who would follow Him truly (Luke 9:23-24). Christ’s apostle Paul speaks of self-serving “enemies of the cross of Christ.” (Philippians 3:18-19) What’s behind this myth? The Psychology of Eternal Security [book]
Another Example of the Twisting of Scripture
The eternal securists seek to justify their OSAS heresy by misusing the following passage…. but in this Paul is speaking of those who go to Heaven, the judgment of saints, and not those who fell away and won’t be there because they will be in hell. They will not be present when this happens….
“Every man’s work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man’s work of what sort it is. 14 If any man’s work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. 15 If any man’s work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.” 1 Corinthians 3:13-15
One More….
Common Objection to Conditional Eternal Security….
“What about Romans 8:38-39 where it says nothing can separate us from the love of God?”
REPLY:
Simple: Notice the word LOVE not life. God will love us all the way into hell if we choose not to repent. His soul will even “weep in secret places for your pride” which comes before destruction (Jeremiah 13:17). The LORD is “Holy, holy, holy,” He’s just, and He will not ever coexist with sin. See the fall of lucifer (Isaiah 14:12-15; Ezekiel 28:13-19; Luke 10:18). The wages of sin is still death and the LORD will damn every soul that dies in sin, with no exception (Psalms 5:4; Habakkuk 1:13; Isaiah 6:3; Romans 6:23; Revelation 4:8; 21:8; 22:11, etc.). Read Jesus’s parable of the prodigal son Lk 15. Did the father love and miss his son? Yes. Did the father (represents God) go chase him down? No. The son who departed had to choose to return. Much truth there. Speaking of Romans, read 11:20-22. Now read 2 Peter 2:20-22 and the book of Hebrews.
1 John 2:19 is often also utilized to “prove” eternal security. Not.
“They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.” 1 John 2:19
Interestingly, the word “never” does not appear in this verse above which is so often used to “prove” OSAS. Let’s read it again with an objective mind. And, also remember what Jesus says about the primary importance of His teaching of the seed and the soil, the sower and the Word:
“And he said unto them, Know ye not this parable? and how then will ye know all parables?” Mark 4:13
The honest student of the whole Counsel of God’s Word knows that numerous clear Bible truths reveal that a saved person can turn away from the LORD, so we know that the apostle John could not possibly be saying that a saved person could never depart from the LORD. In my opinion, this verse is the best argument the eternal security proponent has, yet it’s not enough. There must be two or three witnesses and not just one (2 Cor. 13:1). After a closer examination of this text, one will find that verse 19 does not teach or justify “once saved always saved.” When any one verse is taken to the exclusion of the whole Word of God, one will certainly misunderstand the doctrine of the LORD which can only be apprehended by “study.” (2 Tim. 2:15) This verse is like any other verse of Scripture – it must be taken in light of the entire Counsel of God. The context to be considered is 1 John 2:18-29).
In examining the context in which 1 John 2:19 is set, we see that false teachers whom John calls “many antichrists,” had come and were telling these believers that Jesus was not the Christ (v22).
Let’s look at verses 18 and 19 together:
“Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time. They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.” 1 John 2:18-19
Note here that it is specifically of these “antichrists” that John speaks and says that “if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.”
John was speaking of those who were once saved but then departed from the faith (1 Tim 4:1), they believed and then fell away (Luke 8:12-13) …. then departed from the believers in that fellowship.
Teddy Caldwell writes:
“OSAS insists that those are professing believers, but 1 John 2:18 says such people are antichrists. 1 John 2:22 says an antichrist is one who denies that Jesus is the Christ. Anyone who does that isn’t a believer and isn’t even trying to look like one.”
Concerning 1 John 2:19, Donald Stamps, in the Life in the Spirit Study Bible, writes:
“‘THEY WENT OUT FROM US.’ When the antichrists departed from their fellowship with true believers, they were not in a saving relationship with Christ. This allows for two possibilities: (1) They were never true believers to begin with, or (2) they had once been in a saving relationship with Christ but afterward abandoned their faith in Christ.”
Right here in verse 24 of this passage we see the doctrine of personal responsibility to “remain” in faithful obedience to the LORD or lose one’s place with God (1 Cor. 15:2; Gal. 6:9; Col. 1:23). This is a teaching found throughout Holy Writ – the divine requirement to stay saved or lose all in eternity, “suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.” (Jude 7)
“Let that therefore abide (remain) in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. IF (denotes condition) that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father. And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life.” 1 John 2:24-25
Verse 24 alone tells us that we cannot think that verse 19 means that someone who is at some point in right standing with God can never depart from Him and lose out. Also, verse 25 tells us that “eternal life” (not just rewards) is at stake and the promise contingent upon the believer abiding or remaining in that “which ye have heard from the beginning” which is the Gospel. “Eternal life” is assured as long as one is remaining rooted in Jesus Christ. This is the overwhelmingly consistent message of God’s Word.
In verse 26 John says “These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you.” Verse 19 is written about the deceivers who sought to “seduce” these disciples John was addressing and not of true believers.
With all of Scripture in consideration, we can conclude that 1 John 2:19 is a specific example and not a rule of doctrine.
If you truly wish to search out this matter, let me encourage you to closely examine, break down and study this entire text (1 Jn. 2:18-29). In order to ascertain truth, one must compare the verse in question with all other related Scriptures, beginning with the context in which the verse is set (Isa. 28:9-10; 1 Cor. 2:13).
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“Epaphras’ prayer is a powerful New Testament model of intercession found in Colossians 4:12. As the founder of the church in Colossae, Epaphras is described by the Apostle Paul as ‘wrestling’ or ‘laboring earnestly’ in prayer so that his congregation would stand mature, firm, and fully assured in the will of God.”
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“1 And again he entered into Capernaum after some days; and it was noised that he was in the house.
2 And straightway many were gathered together, insomuch that there was no room to receive them, no, not so much as about the door: and he preached the word unto them.
3 And they come unto him, bringing one sick of the palsy, which was borne of four.
4 And when they could not come nigh unto him for the press, they uncovered the roof where he was: and when they had broken it up, they let down the bed wherein the sick of the palsy lay.
5 When Jesus saw their faith, he said unto the sick of the palsy, Son, thy sins be forgiven thee.
6 But there were certain of the scribes sitting there, and reasoning in their hearts,
7 Why doth this man thus speak blasphemies? who can forgive sins but God only?
8 And immediately when Jesus perceived in his spirit that they so reasoned within themselves, he said unto them, Why reason ye these things in your hearts?
9 Whether is it easier to say to the sick of the palsy, Thy sins be forgiven thee; or to say, Arise, and take up thy bed, and walk?
10 But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power on earth to forgive sins, (he saith to the sick of the palsy,)
11 I say unto thee, Arise, and take up thy bed, and go thy way into thine house.
12 And immediately he arose, took up the bed, and went forth before them all; insomuch that they were all amazed, and glorified God, saying, We never saw it on this fashion.” Mark 2:1-12
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