Predestination and God’s Sovereignty

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Jesus says that hell was created “for the devil and his angels” and not for mankind (Matthew 25:41) …. which further confirms that God sent His only begotten Son to pay the price for sin “for the sins of the WHOLE world.” (1 John 2:2). The LORD is “NOT willing that ANY should perish” but would have “ALL men to be saved.” (1 Timothy 2:4; 2 Peter 3:9)

Beginning in the early days of the Methodist Revival, John Wesley’s position on predestination became a controversial issue. His friend and partner in ministry George Whitefield was a staunch Calvinist, which meant that he believed that salvation was only available to those who had been elected by God, and that the elect would certainly be saved. Wesley was an Arminian, meaning he believed God’s gracious gift of salvation was available to all, though it could be rejected.

While Wesley and Whitefield began their conversations about predestination in private, it wasn’t long before “pamphlet warfare” flared up as each side began to publish sermons and open letters advocating for their positions. Wesley and Whitefield were able to reconcile to a certain extent, but the passionate and fiery debates left a mark on their relationship, and the Methodist movement as a whole. To this day, many see the predestination debate as an important dividing line in evangelicalism.

Why was John Wesley so resolute in his rejection of the Calvinist approach to predestination? There were two key concerns motivating his thinking on this question.

Two Key Concerns

The first key concern had to do with the character of God. Sometimes people mistakenly think that Wesley’s rejection of unconditional predestination was based on an overly optimistic view of human nature, as opposed to a more robust Calvinist understanding of depravity. In fact, Wesley agreed with the historic Calvinist position on total depravity. The real issue at stake was God’s character, rather than innate human abilities. Wesley felt that the idea of absolute unconditional predestination by divine decree was inconsistent with God’s justice, as well as his love and goodness.

This fundamental difference can be seen in the respective ways in which the Calvinist and Wesleyan traditions have approached the question of divine sovereignty. Generally speaking, the Calvinist tradition has seen sovereignty through the model of a ruling monarch, whereas Wesley conceived of sovereignty primarily through the model of a loving parent. The monarch’s power over his subjects is conceived primarily as an exercise of “will,” and hence, for Calvinists, the fact that some are saved while others are not is explained as a decision of the divine will. On the other hand, a parent’s power over their children is conceived primarily as an exercise of love. From this Wesleyan perspective, it is inconceivable that God, as a loving parent, would eternally decree some of his children to life and others to death.

Wesley’s second key concern related to the character of the Christian life. He worried that preaching a Calvinist approach to predestination would lead to antinomianism – living without any concern for the law of God. If salvation is unconditionally established by an eternal decree, why would any of us concern ourselves with obedience and discipleship?

Wesley felt the Calvinist approach therefore undercut the pursuit of holiness, because the connection between God’s gift and our response is marginalized. In his 1739 sermon, “Free Grace,” which ignited the first round of public controversy with Whitefield, Wesley wrote, “So directly does this doctrine tend to shut the very gate of holiness in general, to hinder unholy men from ever approaching thereto, or striving to enter thereat.”

The Biblical Position

It was on the basis of these two areas of concern that Wesley advocated for his evangelical Arminian position on predestination, which can be outlined in the following six points:

Total depravity is true in that the fallen human being is completely helpless and in bondage to sin. Yet Calvinists erroneously teach that man has no ability in his depravity to make the choice to obey the divine command to repent and trust Christ.
The atonement is universal in scope. Christ’s death was sufficient to atone for the sins of the whole world, not only an elect few, as proposed by five-point Calvinism.
Prevenient (or preceding) grace is universally available. God’s grace is present in our lives before we turn to Christ in faith, and this grace restores a measure of freedom so that we can respond to his gracious gift. This is how Wesley could affirm that all human persons were free to respond to the gospel in spite of total depravity—but note that the freedom which humans possess is a measure of freedom (not absolute freedom in all respects), and it is freedom-by-grace, not an inherent endowment of fallen humanity.
Grace is resistible and can be rejected, to our own destruction. God is actively drawing all people to himself, but his grace is not coercive.
Predestination is therefore based on God’s foreknowledge, not his will. That is, God corporately predestines all those who respond in faith to salvation, and by foreknowledge he knows who will respond. Yet the response of each person is truly theirs, because God’s foreknowledge does not cause their response.
Assurance of salvation is given by the Holy Spirit, who witnesses directly to our adoption as children of God through Christ, and whose fruit in our lives also provides confirmation that we are God’s children.

Jason Frost writes:

“What is predestination?

“Let’s look at it in a scholarly fashion. Some seem to love to add very subjective presuppositions into scripture and change definitives of words and contextual values. I pray this helps in your search for truth contextually.

προορίζω (proorizo): predetermine, to decide upon beforehand

ὁρίζω (horizo): (1) set limits to, define, explain; (2) determine, appoint, fix, set

William Arndt, Frederick W. Danker, and Walter Bauer, A Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament and Other Early Christian Literature (Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 2000)

When the Scriptures speak of predestination, it is NEVER in regard to WHOM God will save, especially in a causal sense.

Predetermine/predestine (proorizo) is used six times, in five places in the NT (Acts 4:27-28; Romans 8:28-30 [2x]; 1Corinthians 2:7; Ephesians 1:4-5, 11):

When the apostles were first threatened (Acts 4:18) by the rulers, elders, and scribes (Acts 4:5), they praised God in prayer for predetermining the conspiracy of Jews and Gentiles to crucify Christ (Acts 4:27-28).

The OT saints who love God (Romans 8:28), whom God knew beforehand (see Foreknow Word Study), were predetermined to be conformed to the image of Christ (Romans 8:29). All who were predetermined were also called, justified, and glorified (Romans 8:30). Note that it does NOT say that they were predestined to believe, but those who LOVE God (i.e. already born again) are predestined for glory. So, what God predetermined was to conform all who love Him to the image of His Son.

Paul spoke of the hidden/concealed/secret mystery of the Messiah being crucified (1Corinthians 2:1-7) which God predetermined before the ages to our glory (1Corinthians 2:7).

God chose us IN Christ before the foundation of the world “in LOVE,” and He predetermined us to adoption “THROUGH Jesus Christ according to the favor/good-pleasure/desire of His will” (Ephesians 1:4-5). All who are IN HIM are chosen, as HE is the chosen One, and we are in Him by faith (Ephesians 1:13). The adoption is referring to the future redemption of our body (Romans 8:23). So, God predetermined to resurrect all who are or would be in His Son by faith.

In Christ, the early NT saints were appointed, predetermined according to the purpose of all-things, the One working according to the decision/intention of His will/desire towards the end that would be to the praise of God’s glory (Ephesians 1:11-12), speaking of those who BELIEVED the Gospel (Ephesians 1:13). Again, this is God predetermining that all who believe would bring Him glory.

Given the usage of the word in Scripture, the only things that God predetermined are the conspiracy of Jews and Gentiles to kill the Messiah (Acts 4:27-28), that Christ would be crucified (1Corinthians 2:1-7), that the first to hope in Christ would glorify Him (Ephesians 1:11-13), that those who BELIEVE in Christ would be adopted (Ephesians 1:4-5), and that those who LOVE Him would be conformed to the image of Christ (Romans 8:28-30). -Matt Hennessey”

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“Calvinists, who deny that salvation can ever be lost, reason on the subject in a marvelous way. They tell us, that no virgin’s lamp can go out; no promising harvest be choked with thorns; no branch in Christ can ever be cut off from unfruitfulness; no pardon can ever be forfeited, and no name blotted out of God’s book! They insist that no salt can ever lose its savor; nobody can ever ‘receive the grace of God in vain’; ‘bury his talents’; ‘neglect such great salvation’; trifle away ‘a day of grace’; ‘look back’ after putting his hand to the gospel plow. Nobody can ‘grieve the Spirit’ till He is ‘quenched,’ and strives no more, nor ‘deny the Lord that bought them’; nor ‘bring upon themselves swift destruction.’ Nobody, or body of believers, can ever get so lukewarm that Jesus will spew them out of His mouth. They use reams of paper to argue that if one ever got lost he was never found (John 17:12); that if one falls, he never stood (Rom. 11:16-22 and Heb. 6:4-6); if one was ever ‘cast forth,’ he was never in, and ‘if one ever withered,’ he was never green (John 15:1-6); and that ‘if any man draws back,’ it proves that he never had anything to draw back from (Heb. 10:38,39); that if one ever ‘falls away into spiritual darkness,’ he was never enlightened (Heb 6:4-6); that if you ‘again get entangled in the pollutions of the world,’ it shows that you never escaped (2 Pet 2:20); that if you ‘put salvation away’ you never had it to put away, and if you make shipwreck of faith, there was no ship of faith there!! In short they say: If you get it, you can’t lose it; and if you lose it you never had it. May God save us from accepting a doctrine, that must be defended by such fallacious reasoning!” ~ John Wesley

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Arrogant Bible Correctors Rebuked

If you are waiting for me to let this subject alone, please don’t hold your breath!

Recently to a man who claimed to have a verse that the King James Bible translated incorrectly, I replied:

“You are parroting foolish lies. This is laughable and lame. Die to it. Stop it. Repent. Something is not right in your heart. The supposed “errors” of Satan’s detractors are laughable and most of the time easily dispelled. Satan is the first one who questioned and changed God’s Word as you are now doing and so it more than obvious that Satan is influencing you (Genesis 2:17; 3:1, 4). There’s always an evil spirit behind the questioning and supposed ‘correcting’ of God’s Word.”

Firstly, we should ask: Why do people question the Bible? When people judge the Bible or claim it has errors, or cast doubt upon the validity of it, they usually have no examples. Why? Hint: The unrepentant are seeking to dismiss themselves from personal accountability. Get to know John 3:19-21.

Some are so very self-centered that they believe that if they can’t personally understand something that it should not be in God’s Word or that it wasn’t translated correctly. Run from such a counterfeit!

WHENEVER you hear some fraud pretending to correct the preserved Word of God in English, the KJB, run (Psalms 12:6-7). “Beware of the scribes.” (Luke 20:46)

Beware of those who believe they can correct, they can change or decide what of God’s preserved Word is the truth, is accepted. The Bible reveals that such men are of the seed of Satan himself who was the first to cast doubt upon and change the words of God (Genesis 2:17 and 3:4 and Genesis 3:1). God put His Word in place and it is the final divine authority standard. He didn’t need the puny permission of Satan’s “scholars” of today.

NEVER foolishly pretend to correct the Bible! No, correct your own foolish self!

If I were you I’d be careful never to correct the Word of God, making an utter fool of yourself. It’s amazing how many arrogant and foolish “ministers” dare to attempt such. The King James Bible is God’s preserved Word to the English speaking people and when we hear some dupe say things like “a better translation” would have been ….. then we know we are dealing with a counterfeit who doesn’t fear the LORD and doesn’t believe God’s Word and that he is wiser than the Almighty and that he can decide what the Word of God should say.

The King James Bible is the preserved Word for the English speaking peoples. Beware of the arrogant dupes who because they don’t understand the words claim, pretend it’s a mistranslation. Their not understanding the use of a word or words in the King James Bible doesn’t mean it was not a good word, doesn’t mean it was a mistranslation. His lack of understanding doesn’t equal a mistranslation or bad translation. Much of the time you hear these pawns make such claims it’s due to their not liking what the Bible clearly states. Get a clue. Cease trying to correct the Word of God.

Jesus told us that it is “SATAN” who comes to take away the Word of God (Mark 4:15). He casts doubt on it as he did in the Garden. Read Genesis 3. Those who claim God didn’t preserve His Word call the Almighty a liar and manifestly reveal that they are of Satan (Psalms 12:6-7). They have no proof of such claims and are in damnable unbelief as agents of Satan himself who is behind all questioning of God’s Word (Genesis 3). The “Yea, Hath God Said?” Temptation

It’s utterly arrogant and laughable for amateurs to question God’s Word, correct it, and pretend to know a better translation for certain words and phrases in the Bible…. not only for the sin they commit before God but also the foolishness of vainly thinking they know more than the masterfully linguistic translators God assembled to give us the King James Bible. Some of those men mastered numerous languages before they were 8 years old.

Some among us are so deeply in sin and darkness that they have no idea just how puny they are and so they arrogantly attempt to correct God’s Word SMH. Repent sinner … They pretend to know Greek and Hebrew better than the most scholarly cache of scribes ever assembled, the 54 who translated the King James Bible in fulfillment of the promise of Psalms 12:6-7. Devils are manifesting.

Sherry Todd writes: “For the past week or so, Satan has been sending his agents to me, telling me, there is no infallible word of God. No pure word of God. I keep reminding him the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And 1 Peter 1:23-25 INCORRUPTIBLE is infallible. Now, perhaps these folks are born of the vine of Sodom. But I am born again of the INCORRUPTIBLE WORD of God. KJB. Satan is very busy during his short time. Repent for the kingdom of God is at hand. Amen. Thank you Lord for Your Word.”

IF YOU DARE seek to correct God’s Word, you reveal yourself as an arrogant, hell bound antichrist. Repent devil.

—– DEVILS OF THE DAY: ARROGANT BIBLE CORRECTORS WHO pretend to have more knowledge of the Hebrew and Greek than the 54 divinely-ordained translators whom God used to bring us His Word in English. The LORD always does what He says and He gave the English speaking peoples of the world His written Word in fulfillment of His promise found in Psalms 12:6-7.

BEWARE OF THOSE WHO PRETEND TO BE WISER THAN THE ALMIGHTY AND MORE LEARNED THAN THE 54 GOD-ORDAINED SCHOLARS WHO GAVE US THE BLESSED KING JAMES BIBLE. SOME OF THOSE MEN KNOW 4-6 LANGUAGES FLUENTLY BEFORE THEY WERE 10 YEARS OLD. THEY WERE COMPLETELY LEARNED IN HEBREW AND GREEK AS NO ONE IS TODAY, NAMELY THE NOVICES WHO ATTEMPT TO CORRECT GOD’S PRESERVED WORD TO THE ENGLISH SPEAKING PEOPLES OF HIS WORLD – THE KING JAMES BIBLE (PSALMS 12:6-7). THESE ARE GULLIBLE AND IGNORANT AS THEY VENTURE TO CORRECT THE BIBLE AND ARE LIKE A GNAT SHAKING HIS FIST AT AN ELEPHANT. THEY ARE BLIND, AND NEED TO SHUT THEIR MOUTHS, HUMBLE THEMSELVES IN REAL REPENTANCE, AND LEARN. THESE ARE WISE IN THEIR OWN EYES (PROVERBS 3:7; TITUS 1:13).

The King James Bible is the preserved Word of God for the English speaking people of the world.

MOST MODERN, SELF-PROCLAIMED “SCHOLARS” ARE MERE PAWNS OF THE FIRST ONE WHO BEGAN QUESTIONING AND PERVERTING, ALTERING GOD’S WORDS, SATAN (GENESIS 2:17; 3:1, 4). THEY ARE WILLINGLY BLIND AND YET POSE AS SCHOLARS BECAUSE THEY LEARNED TO SEARCH OUT A LITTLE HEBREW AND GREEK. ASK THEM: 1) “DO YOU SPEAK HEBREW OR GREEK?”, 2) “DID OR DID NOT GOD GIVE US HIS WORD IN OUR OWN LANGUAGE?” THE KING JAMES BIBLE TRANSLATORS, MANY OF THEM, FULLY KNEW NUMEROUS LANGUAGES BY THE AGE OF 10. GOD RAISED THEM UP TO GIVE US HIS WORD IN OUR LANGUAGE (PSALMS 12:6-7).

So, He’s calling you to simply and resolutely repent and shut the evil mouth that seeks to foolishly and groundlessly cast doubt upon His very Word …. following in the footsteps of your father the devil who was the first to cast doubt upon God’s Word – Genesis 2:17; 3:4; John 8:44. Make no mistake: Such an apostate undertaking emanates from an unrepentant heart of rebellion. Though they pretend to be God’s children, they have crept in unawares and their evil fruit reveals the real master of the Bible corrector puppets. The LORD is calling you to repent and correct your own wicked, sin-filled, depraved heart that seeks to justify your “right” to live as you wish vainly believing God gave us no certain Word (Proverbs 22:17-21). This is the very lie of hell and only bought by those who are headed there due to their rebellion against God (John 8:44). How dare you cast doubt on the Most High who gave us His Word! You have openly called Him a liar:

“The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. 7 Thou shalt keep them, O Lord, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.” Psalms 12:6-7

It’s one thing to read a new version (which I highly discourage) and it’s yet another thing to go so far as to defend Satan’s obvious counterfeits and to seek to cast doubt on the divine promise and Word of God!

Calling God a liar by saying something in His Word is not true is the clear evidence that one does not know Him!

The underlying sin of this evil unbelief is pride and rebellion ….. After all, if God didn’t give us His pure Word, we aren’t accountable, right? Wrong, because He did keep His promise and we have His Word. And no, the LORD’s promise to give us His Word in our language can’t possibly be the new versions because they butchered known truth from His Word which we have from the Majority Family of manuscripts (Textus Receptus which simply means Received Text). Could we call these people Bible agnostics? … You will notice that these very people crassly and conveniently ignore the obvious diabolical corruptions of the new versions while vainly attempting to nitpick God’s Word. Whether they know it or not, they are pawns of the enemy of Christ who is the enemy of all souls.

Little do they know, anyone who reads and defends the new versions is partaking with the Catholic cult from which the new versions all emanate in that they come from the butchered manuscripts.

The New Versions are Vatican Corrupted and Controlled “bibles “

Surely if one can rightly correct God’s Word, his own words are now justified and he will not be accountable, right? Wrong.

There is an eternal curse (includes irrevocable confinement in the lake of fire) pronounced upon those who add to or take away from God’s Word and I believe that could include anyone who dares cast doubt upon God’s Word which is paramount to taking away (the authority) of it.

“For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: 19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.” Revelation 22:18-19

Antichrist snakes are the devils who refuse to believe God kept His promise to preserve His Word to all generations (Psalms 12:6-7). WHY? – Simple: They are rebels at heart who refuse to obey that Word. They want to consult with other antichrists by reading the new versions which make a new way, another way, a false gospel. They are “accursed” (Galatians 1:6-9). All who are true to the LORD “HATE every false way.” (Psalms 119:104, 128)

Recently I had the privilege of addressing a certain Bible corrector:

ANOTHER arrogant antichrist saying that “Holy Ghost” is a wrong translation. He sought to correct God’s Word due to his own puny understanding blocked. Here’s the rebuke he was sent before he was blocked:

“Holy GHOST” appears 183 times in God’s Word. “Ghost” simply means “spirit.” It’s only because of the modern words “ghost” being utilized 99% of the times when referring to a demon that people think it only refers to such. This ridiculous conclusion gives us a clue to who these people really are – to give this modern use of the word preference over God’s preserved Word! Repent. You are speaking against the LORD sinner… as you arrogantly seek to correct God’s Word instead of repenting… all because in your puny human mind you don’t understand.

MESSAGE RECEIVED:

“But the King James Bible added words.”

REPLY:

The only things the KJB added were bridge words to bridge the gap between languages in translations which is always necessary when translating from one language to another. AND, the KJB is the only Bible that put those added words in italics so the reader knows which words were added. And the verse you bring up is a good example. Take a look at the KJB on this verse and notice that I will all-caps the added word. Just 1 word was added and it’s “man”:

Luk 17:34 I tell you, in that night there shall be two MEN in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.

So, is “man” wrong to put here by the translators? NO, it’s the exact word that’s supposed to be here and the text proves that: “One shall be taken” can only be referring to a person!

MESSAGE RECEIVED:

“I believe the bible is the true word of GOD, but i believe some pastors are the ones who lie about what it says and then others are confused cause they never read it..i also believe the bible says knowledge will be revealed in the last days….but some think no other knowledge is needed.”

REPLY:

Well, God will never contradict His written Word. It’s the highest revelation so no other knowledge is needed. By His Holy Spirit He gave us His Word and by His Spirit in us He teaches us, leads us, and reveals “ALL things that pertain unto life and godliness” to His true children (2 Peter 1:3-4; 1 Cor 2:12-14). “Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. 21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.” (2 Peter 1:20-21) Also, closely read 2 Timothy 3:16-17. To say other knowledge is needed is to say that God lied to us and didn’t supply in His Word, by His Holy Ghost, “ALL things” His people needed for all times (2 Peter 1:3-4; 20-21, etc.).

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