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TROUBLING QUOTES FROM CHRIST-DENYING,
“EMERGING CHURCH” LEADERS

Bastion for Spineless Moral Cowards

“My covenant will I not break, nor alter the thing that is gone out of my lips.” Psalms 89:34

The so-called emergent or emerging church is a bunch of moral pansies who refuse to believe, embrace, and to obey the absolute truth given to us in God’s written Word. These moral cowards want to converse about it or explore it, but God forbid that anyone get literal or absolute. They stand for nothing except their own self-serving agenda which is pure rebellion against God. They are definitely ‘light in the loafers’ as the saying goes. Oh, and you can tell them I said so!

***Every Emergent Church leader I’ve ever heard speak sounded and seemed effeminate, and so I call them the ECP’s which stands for Emergent Church Pansies. Not only are they physically and verbally effeminate, their vague, questioning methods are sissy-fied. They are slick, slimy, and and spineless as they stand for nothing. The Bible tells us that effeminacy is a sin that will send one to hell (1 Corinthians 6:9). God created MEN to be masculine and therefore for a man to manifest feminine qualities either morally or physically, is an abomination to Him.

No apology for pointing out the obvious feminine nature of these guys. I never said they are gay but pointed out that they ARE “effeminate” which is a Bible word and a sin (1 Cor. 6:9). It would not be a surprise if it comes out that some of them are gay. A man doesn’t have to be manifestly a sodomite. God says if a man is even “effeminate” that he is hell bound, period (1 Corinthians 6:9-11).

These guys are blinded due to the rejection of the LORD who must be approached on HIS terms and no other. He gave us HIS terms in HIS Word which these guys reject as divine, final authority.

“And he spake a parable unto them, Can the blind lead the blind? shall they not both fall into the ditch?” Luke 6:39

They sound like reasonable people while they are reasoning away non-negotiable, divine truth. Who shall we follow?

These godless wolves prey upon young people who are naive but don’t know it yet. They prey upon the younger generation because they are easily beguiled.

Any leader or local church connected with emergent church leaders via their books, CDs, DVDs, radio programs, websites, or otherwise, should also be marked as a vile wolf who has insidiously crept into the church to deceive and lead to damnation precious souls! There IS a conspiracy among false leaders! Wolves operate in packs. Wake up or perish! Be not ignorant, gullible, stupid, or naive or you will perish!

“Conspiracy” is not a theory but rather a divine revelation! “Conspiracy” is a divinely-given truth, a reality, and a fact of life:

“There is a CONSPIRACY of her prophets (apostate leaders) in the midst thereof, like a roaring lion ravening the prey; they have DEVOURED SOULS; they have taken the treasure and precious things; they have made her many widows in the midst thereof. 26Her priests (leaders) have violated my law (Word), and have profaned mine holy things: they have put no difference between the holy and profane, neither have they shewed difference between the unclean and the clean, and have hid their eyes from my sabbaths, and I am profaned among them. 27Her princes (leaders) in the midst thereof are like wolves ravening the prey, to shed blood, and to DESTROY SOULS, to get dishonest gain (greed mongering hirelings).” Ezekiel 22:25-27

Virtually all new “churches” such as community churches, emergent or emerging churches, communal fellowships, seeker-friendly cult churches, all missional churches, and otherwise are totally apostate. They are led by spineless moral cowards who call themselves pastors but have rejected the divine revelation of Jesus Christ and His truth given us in Holy Scripture. These are the wolves Christ and His apostles so often warned us about. Beware!

Quotes from the Vile Emergent Wolves

“We do not think this [Emerging Church Movement] is about changing your worship service. We do not think this is about…how you structure your church staff. This is actually about changing theology. This is about our belief that theology changes. The message of the gospel changes. It’s not just the method that changes.” –Tony Jones (“A New Theology for a New World.” A workshop for the 2004 Emergent Convention in San Diego)

“I must add, though, that I don’t believe making disciples must equal making adherents to the Christian religion. It may be advisable in many (not all!) circumstances to help people become followers of Jesus and remain within their Buddhist, Hindu, or Jewish contexts.” –Brian McLaren

“I now believe that GLBTQ [Gay, Lesbian, Bisexuals, Transgender, and Queers] can live lives in accord with biblical Christianity (as least as much as any of us can!), and that their monogamy can and should be sanctioned and blessed by church and state.” –Tony Jones

“I am not sure I believe in God exclusively as a person anymore either…. I now incorporate a pantheistic view, which basically means that God is ‘in all,’ alongside my creedal view of God as Father, Son, and Spirit.” –Spencer Burke (A Heretics Guide to Eternity, p. 195)

“I don’t think we’ve got the gospel right yet….I don’t think the liberals have it right. But I don’t think we have it right either. None of us has arrived at orthodoxy.” –Brian McLaren

“God is going to judge the life and repair, and restore and heal the life of everybody in the same way.” –Doug Pagitt (in an interview with Todd Friel on Way of the Master Radio)

“Ask me if Christianity (my version of it, yours, the Pope’s, whoever’s) is orthodox, meaning true, and here’s my honest answer: a little, but not yet…To be a Christian in a generously orthodox way is not to claim to have the truth captured, stuffed, and mounted on the wall…But we keep seeking.” –Brian McLaren (A Generous Orthodoxy, p. 333)

“The Christian faith is mysterious to the core. It is about things and beings that ultimately can’t be put into words. Language fails. And if we do definitively put God into words, we have at that very moment made God something God is not” –Rob Bell (Velvet Elvis, p. 32)

“Ultimately, I hope Jesus will save Buddhism, Islam and every other religion, including the Christian religion, which often seems to need saving about as much as any other religion does.” –Brian McLaren

“God has an incredibly high view of people. God believes that people are capable of amazing things. I have been told that I need to believe in Jesus. Which is a good thing. But what I am learning is that Jesus believes in me. I have been told that I need to have faith in God. Which is a good thing. But what I am learning is that God has faith in me.” –Rob Bell (Velvet Elvis, p. 134)

“Stop looking for some objective Truth that is available when we delve into the text of the Bible.” –Tony Jones

“What we know means nothing. What we live means everything.” –Barry Taylor (from a talk at Capo Beach Calvary in San Juan Capistrano, California). (In response to this, contrast Taylor’s words with Jesus’ in John 8:32 and Paul’s pattern of starting off with doctrine in his letters to the Romans, Ephesians and Colossians before talking about how to live. Right actions follow right beliefs. That is the pattern set up in the Bible).

“The church has been preoccupied with the question, “What happens to your soul after you die?” As if the reason for Jesus coming can be summed up in, “Jesus is trying to help get more souls into heaven, as opposed to hell, after they die.” I just think a fair reading of the Gospels blows that out of the water. I don’t think that the entire message and life of Jesus can be boiled down to that bottom line.” –Brian McLaren

“Emergent doesn’t have a position on absolute truth, or on anything for that matter. Do you show up at a dinner party with your neighbors and ask, ‘What’s this dinner party’s position on absolute truth?’ No, you don’t, because it’s a non-sensical question.” –Tony Jones

“Well, for our community, this [living an environmentally conscious life] isn’t rooted in the fact that it’s gaining steam in popular culture. It’s always been rooted in the very nature of God. The central Hebrew prayer, Deuteronomy 6, says, “Hear O Israel the Lord your God, the Lord is One,” so we live with awareness that all of reality is one. [How does he get that from this passage? He sounds like a pantheist.] We are connected with all things everywhere, and I would argue that in the last couple hundred years, disconnection has been the dominant way people have understood reality. And the Church has contributed to that disconnection by preaching horrible messages about being left behind and that this place is going to burn [Uh, yeah read 2 Peter 3:7ff Rob.]–absolutely toxic messages that are against the teachings of Scripture, which state that we are connected to God, we are connected to the earth, we are connected to each other. When any of those connections fracture, the whole thing starts to fall apart. Your relationship with God is tied into your relationship with the soil. Go back to Genesis.” –Rob Bell (Relevant Magazine, “Rob Bell Tells it like it is,” January/February edition, 2008)

“Let me offer 10 suggestions for reclaiming the Bible for contemporary readers…Drop Any Affair You May Have with Certainty” –Brian McLaren (Adventures in Missing the Point, p. 81-84)

“We should consider the possibility that many, and perhaps even all of Jesus’ hell-fire or end-of-the-universe statements refer not to postmortem [after death] judgment but to the very historic consequences of rejecting his kingdom message of reconciliation and peacemaking. The destruction of Jerusalem in A.D. 67-70 seems to many people to fulfill much of what we have traditionally understood as hell. ” –Brian McLaren

“For Jesus, heaven and hell were present realities. Ways of living we can enter into here and now. He talked very little of the life beyond this one…” –Rob Bell (Velvet Elvis, p. 147)

“When I say I’m a universalist, what I really mean is that I don’t believe you have to convert to any particular religion to find God. A I see it, God finds us, and it has nothing to do with subscribing to any particular religious view.” –Spencer Burke (A Heretic’s Guide to Eternity, p. 197)

“I’m writing with the assumption that most of you who are reading this book have concluded what I have: Preaching doesn’t work…preaching, as we know it, is a tragically broken endeavor….The value of our practices—including preaching—ought to be judged by their effects on our communities and the ways in which they help us move toward life with God.” –Doug Pagitt (Preaching Re-Imagined, p. 18, 19, 28)

“[In Yoga] it’s not how flexible you are, it’s not whether you can do the poses, it’s not how much you can bend yourself, it’s can you keep your breath [breathes in and out] consistent [breathes out] through whatever you are doing. And the Yoga Masters say this is how it is when you follow Jesus and surrender to God. Is it’s your breath being consistent. It’s your connection with God regardless of the pose you find yourself in. That’s integrating the divine into the daily.” –Rob Bell (transcribed from his sermon on breathing)

“What’s more, I’m not sure I believe in God exclusively as a person anymore either….I now incorporate a pantheist view, which basically means that God is ‘in all,’ alongside my creedal view of God as Father, Son, and Spirit….As I see it, we are in God, here on earth. This is how our relationship is defined. God does not just have to be reached up to; he is hear as the surrounding Spirit.” –Spencer Burke (A Heretic’s Guide to Eternity, p. 195)

“…my point in all this is that the doctrine of the Trinity is still on the table. Some people, it seems to me, would like for us to no longer debate certain ‘sacred’ doctrines — the Trinity, the nature of Christ, the nature of scripture, the nature of marriage etc. And these persons tend to get very jumpy when emergent-types discuss these sacred doctrines, especially in books and at conferences that are being taped. ‘This is dangerous,’ they say.” –Tony Jones

“Repentance is what happens when your eyes are opened and you see what has already been done. ‘I’ve missed it, and now I see it’.” –Rob Bell

“Anytime someone makes you feel guilty about how you are living, that is part of the old system (pre-Christ).” –Rob Bell

“And so these first Christians passed on the faith to the next generation who passed it on to the next generation who passed it on to the next generation until it got to us. Here. Today. Those who follow Jesus and belong to his church. And now it is our turn. It is our turn to step up and take responsibility for who the church is going to be for a new generation. It is our turn to redefine and reshape and dream it all up again” –Rob Bell (Velvet Elvis, p. 164)

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My Journey Into and Out of the Emergent Church
By Jason Carlson

The growing influence of the so-called emergent church movement has generated much interest and debate in recent times. As a columnist for the Christian Worldview Network, people often ask me for my take on the emergent church movement. Thus, the purpose of this article is simply to offer my humble perspective on the emergent church movement, based upon my unique firsthand interactions with many of its leaders, many of whom I count as friends in-spite of my disagreements with them.

My initial entrance into the emergent church conversation came about six years ago while I was a student in seminary. One of the key figures in Emergent, the official title of the organization that is the primary voice for the emergent church movement, Doug Pagitt (Pastor of Solomon’s Porch in Minneapolis), is a close friend of mine. Doug had a profound influence on my life during his time as my youth pastor when I was in high school. Between my years in youth group and my entrance into seminary, Doug became intimately involved with many of the key movers and shakers who would eventually form the organization, or “generative friendship” as they call it, which is now Emergent. During these formative years of Emergent, actually back then it was called The Terra Nova Project, Doug invited me to many of the early gatherings of this group, it was at these events where I was introduced to and spent much time with people like Brian McLaren, Tony Jones, Pagitt and others.

During my interactions with my friends from Emergent, I was challenged both intellectually and spiritually through what I encountered, and I was really forced to wrestle with what I believe and hold dear. Over the course of about three years of fairly regular interaction with members of Emergent and participation in many of their gatherings and events, I became increasingly concerned over what I believe are serious deviations from biblical truth taking place within the Emergent “conversation” (how they refer to the movement). Many other commentators have drawn attention to these dangers within Emergent, but here are some of the key errors that I observed, errors that eventually led to my disengagement with the movement:

– A highly ambiguous handling of truth.

– A desire to be so inclusive and tolerant that there is virtually no sense of biblical discernment in terms of recognizing and labeling false beliefs, practices, or lifestyles.

– A quasi-universalistic view of salvation.

– A lack of a proper appreciation for biblical authority over and against personal experience or revelation.

– Openness to pagan religious practices like Hindu Yoga and incorporating them into the Christian life and Christian worship.

– Openly questioning the relevance of key historical biblical doctrines such as the Trinity.

– An uncritically open embrace of the Catholic and Orthodox churches.

– An unbridled cynicism towards conservative evangelicalism and fundamentalism.

– A reading of scripture that is heavily prejudiced towards a social gospel understanding.

– Little or no talk of evangelism or saving lost souls.

– A salvation by osmosis mentality, where if you hangout with us long enough you’re in.

– And many other things that I won’t get into…

Needless to say, today I no longer actively participate in the Emergent conversation. While I do maintain my friendships with many people involved in Emergent, I cannot openly participate in or support this movement due to my spirit’s uneasiness with the errors I listed above. I am not ashamed to call the people I mentioned above my friends, but friends don’t always have to agree; and sometimes the best thing a friend can do is to point out the error in the other’s ways. So, for now you could call me a friendly critic of Emergent.

How did I make it out of my time in Emergent to return to a solid Christian worldview? I owe it all to my parents who raised me with a deep appreciation and respect for God’s word and the truth it reveals. For as far back as I can remember, my parent’s trained me in a biblical Christian worldview. I was taught from a very young age to test all things by God’s word and I was regularly exposed to the writings and teachings of great Christian apologists and theologians like Josh McDowell, Norman Geisler, Ken Ham, and Walter Martin. Through reading solid Christian scholars and attending numerous high quality Christian worldview-training conferences, like Worldview Weekend, I was equipped with the tools I would need later in life to discern truth from error.

Parents, you cannot take lightly the influence that a godly, biblically based upbringing can have on your children! Each generation will be faced with their share of trials, tribulations, and errors which threaten the integrity of the church, but when our young people are raised up with a firm foundation in God’s truth, they will be able to discern truth from error and will have the tools they’ll need to overcome any challenge to their faith.

If you would like more information on Emergent and the emergent church movement from a solid biblical perspective, I would highly recommend D.A. Carson’s excellent book, Becoming Conversant with the Emergent Church.


“Throwing Our Future Church Leaders to the Wolves”
Jim Brown

An estimated 25,000-30,000 young people are expected to attend “Student Life” events with their church youth groups this year in twelve different locations across the U-S. Headlining the 2006 tour are worship leader Charlie Hall, the drama team “All Things to All People” and Los Angeles pastor and author Erwin McManus, a leader in the Emergent Church movement.

But before you pay to send your teenager off to one of the Student Life conferences, be aware that Emergent leaders such as McManus, Leonard Sweet, Andy Crouch, Brian McLaren, and others are pushing liberal theology under the guise of “postmodern” Christianity. The movement assails absolute truth, the inerrancy of Scripture and justification by faith in Jesus Christ alone, and instead embraces spiritual relativism and mysticism. Sound like something you want your son or daughter dabbling in? This “New Kind of Christianity,” as McLaren calls it, is distorting the true gospel of Jesus Christ.

Southern Baptist Theological Seminary President Albert Mohler has said “When it comes to issues such as the exclusivity of the gospel, the identity of Jesus Christ as both fully human and fully divine, the authoritative character of Scripture as written revelation, and the clear teaching of Scripture concerning issues such as homosexuality, this movement simply refuses to answer the questions.” Yet, the movement continues to gain traction among undiscerning believers young and old, as well critics of traditional evangelicalism.

In an interview with www.freshministry.org, McManus was asked what advice he would give preachers that want to minister in the postmodern age. He responded by saying, “First, The sermons that are changing the world are the ones where the pastor is real–sharing his journey with the congregation. Second, stop preaching sermons and start telling stories. Third, Break through the pressure to be a great preacher and become a great leader.” In other words, away with sound doctrine if it’s not culturally relevant or entertaining to your audience.

Perhaps more troubling, McManus endorsed Gregory Boyd’s book “Is God to Blame.” Boyd is a leading proponent of open theism, which denies God knows all of the future. In the book, Boyd argues that Almighty God suffers from self-imposed limits on His power. At the very least, it’s apparent McManus is willing to tolerate a heretical view that undermines the doctrine of Christ’s Atonement and the authority of Scripture.

One has to question why Student Life would feature McManus at its popular conferences and why any youth pastor would wittingly allow his youth group to sit under an Emergent pastor’s teaching. I think the answer can be found in II Timothy 4:3-4: “For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.” Christian young people need sound doctrine to grow in Christ and reach a lost world for Jesus, not a “postmodern” or culturally relevant gospel.

LINKS EXPOSING THE EMERGENT CHURCH MOVEMENT:

The Church is Changing, What is Emerging?

Emergent Church Leaders: Wolves in Shepherds’ Clothing!

http://www.apprising.org/archives/2005/11/emergent_church_3.html

http://www.erwm.com/TheNewSpiritualFormation.htm

http://www.christianresearchservice.com/EmergingChurch.htm

http://www.studentlifetour.com/index.php

Jim Brown is an education reporter for American Family Radio News. His stories appear frequently at www.agapepress.org and other Christian websites. He can be contacted at jimbrown@afa.net.

ROB BELL is a WOLF! Marked!

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Contemplative Spirituality/Mysticism

This time we live in is marred by the false philosophy of postmodernism, which is more deeply entrenched within the gates of Christendom than most realize. Circa 2000 mainstream evangelicalism made the ill-fated decision to embrace the sinfully ecumenical neo-liberal cult operating within the Emerging Church aka the Emergent Church.

Sadly, the EC—headed by, among others, its trinity of apostates, Living Spiritual Teacher and EC guru Brian McLaren, universalist Emerging Church pastor Doug Pagitt, and his friend Dr. Tony Jones, the progressive “theologian in residence” at Solomon’s Porch—would prove to be a Trojan Horse literally filled with heresy.

One of its most pernicious teachings was corrupt Contemplative Spirituality/Mysticism (CSM), Roman Catholic mysticism “discovered” by Living Spiritual Teacher and Quaker mystic Richard Foster, now spread within the heart of evangelicalism as supposed Spiritual Formation with an assist from his spiritual twin Dallas Willard,

This spurious CSM was a core doctrine in the EC right from its slithering into the mainstream circa 2000. In fact, this was all a part of the plan of Druckerite Leadership Network to move away from sola Scriptura to man-centered dominionist theology. This CSM has horribly corrupted the younger sectors of the visible church.

No longer do they practice the proper Christian spirituality of sola Scriptura; instead, so-called “spiritual disciplines” of CSM have convinced them they are receiving direct revelations from God. From years of studying mystics of all stripes I can tell you their perceived revelations then trump the texts of Holy Scripture for them.

In other words, rather than testing these experiences by God’s Word, now these practitioners of CSM are instead using their feelings to interpret the Bible through what they think God is saying. I’m telling you, the tragic fact is, the mainstream of professing Christendom is rapidly devolving into all kinds of silly superstitions.

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Thank You for Declaring that the Mexican People Matter to Jesus! Mission Mexico Part 50


Mission Mexico Rolling

Here’s to thanking God that you care for these beloved people and are praying and supporting. God is able.

So much is transpiring that I don’t know where to start….

Hopefully the pictures and other things in this 50th update will help attempt to give a taste of how good our LORD is.


From sister Crystal …

Subject: RE: Picked up 20k more JESUS tracts recently.

Good morning and BLESS YOU BROTHER TODD!

Your last note made me cry, so blessed to be able to get more “fishing tracts” out. LOL

I also prayed for the printer and their workers, seeing how many are being ordered, and how important they are. I know they’re glad to get your “business”. May their hearts and souls be pierced within also. They have to see the front page repeatedly…may it stick like glue in their minds and hearts. Thank you! The devoted distributors of GOOD NEWS. The best news known to man. I may have told you this already, but when I mailed that case of Bibles and the clerk asked what books they were, I said, “The Bible, the greatest bestseller of all time.” She smiled. I love working together with our family, each doing their little part in moving things along–may many hearts and souls be pierced within, and brought to the knowledge/measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ.

Carrying on in Christ…occupying…Crystal

P.S. I sometimes say in prayer: Lord, you are the glue that holds me together. What EVER would I do without you!!! Without Him, I could do nothing. Without Him, I’d surely fail, Without Him, I would be drifting, like a ship that has no sail. For Jesus is the lighthouse, I owe my life to Him…My pianist/friend/Sister/Adopted Mom used to cry every time I sang that. She and her Son are now home, waiting for us to arrive. He is no longer in a wheel chair, but oh so happily singing for/with the Lord. Oh, how I miss them all.

IT WILL BE WORTH IT ALL….WHEN WE SEE CHRIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”



He sent this to the Spanish group recently …… Brother Daniel was out ministering. He sent this picture.

“And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.” Mark 16:15


RECENTLY: Went to visit and refresh our beloved sister Maria. She was busy passing out JESUS tracts to the people. She was given some cash and we got her some food to bring home!!!! The Gospel, charity work being done here in Mexico is super well received here and is due to the love offerings of Christ’s saints.

A steady portion of what you give is given to brother Juan and sister Maria and other of Christ’s disciples. They are worthy of their hire.

“And in the same house remain, eating and drinking such things as they give: for the labourer is worthy of his hire. Go not from house to house.” Luke 10:7

One of our main directives in this mission is to edify, feed, fuel, support, and take care of our LORD’s few labourers!!!! Amen!

“Then saith he unto his disciples, The harvest truly is plenteous, but the labourers are few; 38  Pray ye therefore the Lord of the harvest, that he will send forth labourers into his harvest.” Matthew 9:37-38 


“I marvel in amazement at all the Lord is doing through you guys in Mexico. Each new story, brings such awe in my heart of how open the people are to the gospel. It is sure is a supernatural outpouring of the Holy Spirit in the hearts of the people. There could be no other explanation. Praying every morning. This morning I prayed Ephesians 1:15-23. May God’s power be continually released in the saints who are ministering in Mexico!” Karen Cochran | Mission Mexico


Your prayers are being heard by our LORD and He is blessing many of the humble bless-ed people of Mexico.

“For I know that this shall turn to my salvation through your prayer, and the supply of the Spirit of Jesus Christ,” Philippians 1:19


The Mexican people are so very authentically well behaved, naturally, trained, nurtured from birth to be kind, gentle, loving, and helpful. Most importantly, for eternity’s sake, they greatly desire to hear the Gospel of Jesus. It’s an evangelistic field day. Thank you for lifting a prayer right now for God to save the people of Mexico.

“Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession.” Psalms 2:8


Juan received another box of the JESUS tracts today after fellowship. Here’s a small part of what Juan, in his own words, spoke:

“Brother, we have chosen the best part—one that will never bring us shame. We have the best job: serving our Father in this Ministry of Reconciliation to expand His kingdom. It has truly been a great blessing to share His word; we can never fully grasp the scope of God’s vision, for His word never returns void—it always fulfills its purpose. Glory to God.

God restores us; God gives us our reward; God lifts us up, brother. There is power in the Word. Can you picture Moses? When he had a personal encounter with God, he would come away with a countenance—his whole face shining—and he had to wear a veil. That is how we are, too, when we have communion with God—an intimate relationship with Him. You are good and merciful to each one of us.” Juan

RECENTLY: Brother Juan picking up more JESUS tracts (Spanish) to pass out! Thank you for praying for and supporting Mission Mexico

During fellowship, brother Juan shared the following:

“The Word of God never returns empty; it always fulfills its purpose. We don’t know the full scope of God’s worldview, but we trust completely in the message of salvation. It speaks to us in all times, both in the Old Testament and the New Testament, in Revelation, urging us to repent and turn to Christ. Glory to God for this message, brother. May God continue to use you greatly today, for His glory, and to expand His kingdom.

His blessed Word says that whoever perseveres to the end will be saved, but when Jesus was asked if they would enter the kingdom of heaven, he didn’t say they had to do much—there were few of them—he simply said to strive. So God commands us to take action in Joseph 1:9: “Be strong and courageous. Do not be afraid or discouraged, for the Lord your God will be with you wherever you go.” Amen Juan.

Meals like this are just a part of the torment one must endure to live in beautiful Mexico.

This meal was during fellowship with brother Juan. Most of all we (includes Tom and yourself) were blessed feed our brother and give him a nice cappuccino…. and fellowship where he was refreshed and also he took more JESUS tracts.


Brother Daniel was the first convert to Christ in Mexico 2 years ago upon arriving. Here’s a picture of Daniel recently when we met to fellowship, etc.

Would you like to lift our brother in prayer? Colossians 4:12

Mission Mexico Rolling


MORE CHANGED LIVES

Sister Nayeli is really growing in Christ. Wow

She cried out to the LORD this morning

And He answered EVERY one of her specific prayers…

For peace, food, provision, etc

She even asked him for a small pocket size Bible

And she got 2 of them also

Along with lots of food and provision

She is now handing out the JESUS tract and testifying of Christ

You may recall she was previously a lifelong Jew

God is good and your prayers are coveted for sister Nayeli

After all those blessings Nayeli and I went to refresh Maria. She wasn’t there. We were able to ministry Christ’s Gospel to many and ended with feeding and ministering to a dear elder homeless woman….

Thank you for praying. Yes Nayeli is a young disciple and growing in grace as she is seeking the LORD.

Last night I would tell her a Bible reference. She’d open up to that chapter and start reading out loud and in real time was blessedly stunned to have the LORD speak to her, showing her many things, including that He does hate her as satan was telling her. No, he loves her and is producing fruit in her life, which clearly proves she is His. The fruit and purging going on in her life clearly proves she is in Christ. Her whole countenance was transformed as she read those words. The reality of what our LORD Jesus taught in John 15:1-7 was made fully alive to her. She now saw things from God’s eternal perspective and how He was purging her so that even more fruit could be born. I haven’t talked much with her lately and so didn’t know but the things in her life were being sifted, stripped. She’s lost clients since becoming a saint of Christ, snatch from satan and Judaism.

Other passages Nayeli read aloud were Matthew 5:10-12; James 1:2-5, 12; Hebrews 10, 11, etc.

Nayeli was exhorted to “punch satan in the face” when he attacks her by not sitting around in heaviness. No, but by getting out and passing out some Gospel tracts, evangelizing the lost! She broke out in a joyful laugh at that one. Then we got in the car and went looking for dear sister Maria. She wasn’t there and so we evangelized and then a dear elderly homeless lady came by with 2 bags and a sad face. We were able to walk with her to get her some fresh delicious food with a large cold water and were able to give her some cash, etc. God is good saints.

Such deep sadness in this beloved woman.

Father, please heal and lift this beloved woman up from the mirey clay of sin and darkness in this world

Make her an example to many of Your love in Christ

Thank you for praying.

God is able.


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John Wesley on Calvinism, Once Saved Always Saved, and Conditional Security

John Wesley on Calvinism, Once Saved Always Saved, and Conditional Security

“Calvinists, who deny that salvation can ever be lost, reason on the subject in a marvelous way. They tell us, that no virgin’s lamp can go out; no promising harvest be choked with thorns; no branch in Christ can ever be cut off from unfruitfulness; no pardon can ever be forfeited, and no name blotted out of God’s book! They insist that no salt can ever lose its savor; nobody can ever ‘receive the grace of God in vain’; ‘bury his talents’; ‘neglect such great salvation’; trifle away ‘a day of grace’; ‘look back’ after putting his hand to the gospel plow. Nobody can ‘grieve the Spirit’ till He is ‘quenched,’ and strives no more, nor ‘deny the Lord that bought them’; nor ‘bring upon themselves swift destruction.’ Nobody, or body of believers, can ever get so lukewarm that Jesus will spew them out of His mouth. They use reams of paper to argue that if one ever got lost he was never found (John 17:12); that if one falls, he never stood (Rom. 11:16-22 and Heb. 6:4-6); if one was ever ‘cast forth,’ he was never in, and ‘if one ever withered,’ he was never green (John 15:1-6); and that ‘if any man draws back,’ it proves that he never had anything to draw back from (Heb. 10:38,39); that if one ever ‘falls away into spiritual darkness,’ he was never enlightened (Heb 6:4-6); that if you ‘again get entangled in the pollutions of the world,’ it shows that you never escaped (2 Pet 2:20); that if you ‘put salvation away’ you never had it to put away, and if you make shipwreck of faith, there was no ship of faith there!! In short they say: If you get it, you can’t lose it; and if you lose it you never had it. May God save us from accepting a doctrine, that must be defended by such fallacious reasoning!” ~ John Wesley

OSAS people make a vain attempt at redefining the words of Scripture to fit their own self-serving agenda of lukewarmness, cross-less rebellion. For example they hyper-focus on “eternal” in the term “eternal life” while intentionally refusing to synthesize the whole of what Scripture states. Purposely, they do not distinguish between initial and final salvation and refuse to believe that after being saved, the recipient of His salvation must “endure to the end” to be “saved.” (Matthew 10:22; 24:13; John 15:6; Colossians 1:23; Hebrews 3:6, 12-14; 10:26-39; 2 Peter 2:20-21; Revelation 2-3, etc.) They hyper-focus on the word “gift” and teach that a gift could never be lost which the rest of Scripture does not agree with. They then take the word “sealed” and make it to be permanent which it cannot possibly be because the same Greek word for “sealed” is used of Jesus’ tomb which we all know was NOT permanently sealed – it was unsealed when Jesus came out of that grave! (Matthew 27:66) In this they bear false witness against the LORD and act like some Scriptures are more divinely inspired than others. This practice reveals the evil and deceit of their own hearts. While they scream, “context, context, context,” they themselves syphon things out of the immediate and overall context of Scripture. Not just some Scripture in the Bible but rather “ALL scripture is given by inspiration of God…” (2 Timothy 3:16-17) It must all be synthesized, put together, compared (1 Corinthians 2:13). Error will result in the hearts and lives of those who do not personally search, study, and revere “ALL scripture” in God’s Word.

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Apostasy

Arrogant Bible Correctors Rebuked

If you are waiting for me to let this subject alone, please don’t hold your breath!

Recently to a man who claimed to have a verse that the King James Bible translated incorrectly, I replied:

“You are parroting foolish lies. This is laughable and lame. Die to it. Stop it. Repent. Something is not right in your heart. The supposed “errors” of Satan’s detractors are laughable and most of the time easily dispelled. Satan is the first one who questioned and changed God’s Word as you are now doing and so it more than obvious that Satan is influencing you (Genesis 2:17; 3:1, 4). There’s always an evil spirit behind the questioning and supposed ‘correcting’ of God’s Word.”

Firstly, we should ask: Why do people question the Bible? When people judge the Bible or claim it has errors, or cast doubt upon the validity of it, they usually have no examples. Why? Hint: The unrepentant are seeking to dismiss themselves from personal accountability. Get to know John 3:19-21.

Some are so very self-centered that they believe that if they can’t personally understand something that it should not be in God’s Word or that it wasn’t translated correctly. Run from such a counterfeit!

WHENEVER you hear some fraud pretending to correct the preserved Word of God in English, the KJB, run (Psalms 12:6-7). “Beware of the scribes.” (Luke 20:46)

Beware of those who believe they can correct, they can change or decide what of God’s preserved Word is the truth, is accepted. The Bible reveals that such men are of the seed of Satan himself who was the first to cast doubt upon and change the words of God (Genesis 2:17 and 3:4 and Genesis 3:1). God put His Word in place and it is the final divine authority standard. He didn’t need the puny permission of Satan’s “scholars” of today.

NEVER foolishly pretend to correct the Bible! No, correct your own foolish self!

If I were you I’d be careful never to correct the Word of God, making an utter fool of yourself. It’s amazing how many arrogant and foolish “ministers” dare to attempt such. The King James Bible is God’s preserved Word to the English speaking people and when we hear some dupe say things like “a better translation” would have been ….. then we know we are dealing with a counterfeit who doesn’t fear the LORD and doesn’t believe God’s Word and that he is wiser than the Almighty and that he can decide what the Word of God should say.

The King James Bible is the preserved Word for the English speaking peoples. Beware of the arrogant dupes who because they don’t understand the words claim, pretend it’s a mistranslation. Their not understanding the use of a word or words in the King James Bible  doesn’t mean it was not a good word, doesn’t mean it was a mistranslation. His lack of understanding doesn’t equal a mistranslation or bad translation. Much of the time you hear these pawns make such claims it’s due to their not liking what the Bible clearly states. Get a clue. Cease trying to correct the Word of God.  

Jesus told us that it is “SATAN” who comes to take away the Word of God (Mark 4:15). He casts doubt on it as he did in the Garden. Read Genesis 3. Those who claim God didn’t preserve His Word call the Almighty a liar and manifestly reveal that they are of Satan (Psalms 12:6-7). They have no proof of such claims and are in damnable unbelief as agents of Satan himself who is behind all questioning of God’s Word (Genesis 3). The “Yea, Hath God Said?” Temptation

It’s utterly arrogant and laughable for amateurs to question God’s Word, correct it, and pretend to know a better translation for certain words and phrases in the Bible…. not only for the sin they commit before God but also the foolishness of vainly thinking they know more than the masterfully linguistic translators God assembled to give us the King James Bible. Some of those men mastered numerous languages before they were 8 years old.

Some among us are so deeply in sin and darkness that they have no idea just how puny they are and so they arrogantly attempt to correct God’s Word SMH. Repent sinner … They pretend to know Greek and Hebrew better than the most scholarly cache of scribes ever assembled, the 54 who translated the King James Bible in fulfillment of the promise of Psalms 12:6-7. Devils are manifesting.

Sherry Todd writes: “For the past week or so, Satan has been sending his agents to me, telling me, there is no infallible word of God. No pure word of God. I keep reminding him the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And 1 Peter 1:23-25 INCORRUPTIBLE is infallible. Now, perhaps these folks are born of the vine of Sodom. But I am born again of the INCORRUPTIBLE WORD of God. KJB. Satan is very busy during his short time. Repent for the kingdom of God is at hand. Amen. Thank you Lord for Your Word.”

IF YOU DARE seek to correct God’s Word, you reveal yourself as an arrogant, hell bound antichrist. Repent devil.

—– DEVILS OF THE DAY: ARROGANT BIBLE CORRECTORS WHO pretend to have more knowledge of the Hebrew and Greek than the 54 divinely-ordained translators whom God used to bring us His Word in English. The LORD always does what He says and He gave the English speaking peoples of the world His written Word in fulfillment of His promise found in Psalms 12:6-7.

BEWARE OF THOSE WHO PRETEND TO BE WISER THAN THE ALMIGHTY AND MORE LEARNED THAN THE 54 GOD-ORDAINED SCHOLARS WHO GAVE US THE BLESSED KING JAMES BIBLE. SOME OF THOSE MEN KNOW 4-6 LANGUAGES FLUENTLY BEFORE THEY WERE 10 YEARS OLD. THEY WERE COMPLETELY LEARNED IN HEBREW AND GREEK AS NO ONE IS TODAY, NAMELY THE NOVICES WHO ATTEMPT TO CORRECT GOD’S PRESERVED WORD TO THE ENGLISH SPEAKING PEOPLES OF HIS WORLD – THE KING JAMES BIBLE (PSALMS 12:6-7). THESE ARE GULLIBLE AND IGNORANT AS THEY VENTURE TO CORRECT THE BIBLE AND ARE LIKE A GNAT SHAKING HIS FIST AT AN ELEPHANT. THEY ARE BLIND, AND NEED TO SHUT THEIR MOUTHS, HUMBLE THEMSELVES IN REAL REPENTANCE, AND LEARN. THESE ARE WISE IN THEIR OWN EYES (PROVERBS 3:7; TITUS 1:13).

The King James Bible is the preserved Word of God for the English speaking people of the world.

MOST MODERN, SELF-PROCLAIMED “SCHOLARS” ARE MERE PAWNS OF THE FIRST ONE WHO BEGAN QUESTIONING AND PERVERTING, ALTERING GOD’S WORDS, SATAN (GENESIS 2:17; 3:1, 4). THEY ARE WILLINGLY BLIND AND YET POSE AS SCHOLARS BECAUSE THEY LEARNED TO SEARCH OUT A LITTLE HEBREW AND GREEK. ASK THEM: 1) “DO YOU SPEAK HEBREW OR GREEK?”, 2) “DID OR DID NOT GOD GIVE US HIS WORD IN OUR OWN LANGUAGE?” THE KING JAMES BIBLE TRANSLATORS, MANY OF THEM, FULLY KNEW NUMEROUS LANGUAGES BY THE AGE OF 10. GOD RAISED THEM UP TO GIVE US HIS WORD IN OUR LANGUAGE (PSALMS 12:6-7).

So, He’s calling you to simply and resolutely repent and shut the evil mouth that seeks to foolishly and groundlessly cast doubt upon His very Word …. following in the footsteps of your father the devil who was the first to cast doubt upon God’s Word – Genesis 2:17; 3:4; John 8:44. Make no mistake: Such an apostate undertaking emanates from an unrepentant heart of rebellion. Though they pretend to be God’s children, they have crept in unawares and their evil fruit reveals the real master of the Bible corrector puppets. The LORD is calling you to repent and correct your own wicked, sin-filled, depraved heart that seeks to justify your “right” to live as you wish vainly believing God gave us no certain Word (Proverbs 22:17-21). This is the very lie of hell and only bought by those who are headed there due to their rebellion against God (John 8:44). How dare you cast doubt on the Most High who gave us His Word! You have openly called Him a liar:

“The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. 7 Thou shalt keep them, O Lord, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.” Psalms 12:6-7

It’s one thing to read a new version (which I highly discourage) and it’s yet another thing to go so far as to defend Satan’s obvious counterfeits and to seek to cast doubt on the divine promise and Word of God!

Calling God a liar by saying something in His Word is not true is the clear evidence that one does not know Him!

The underlying sin of this evil unbelief is pride and rebellion ….. After all, if God didn’t give us His pure Word, we aren’t accountable, right? Wrong, because He did keep His promise and we have His Word. And no, the LORD’s promise to give us His Word in our language can’t possibly be the new versions because they butchered known truth from His Word which we have from the Majority Family of manuscripts (Textus Receptus which simply means Received Text). Could we call these people Bible agnostics? … You will notice that these very people crassly and conveniently ignore the obvious diabolical corruptions of the new versions while vainly attempting to nitpick God’s Word. Whether they know it or not, they are pawns of the enemy of Christ who is the enemy of all souls.

Little do they know, anyone who reads and defends the new versions is partaking with the Catholic cult from which the new versions all emanate in that they come from the butchered manuscripts.

The New Versions are Vatican Corrupted and Controlled “bibles “

Surely if one can rightly correct God’s Word, his own words are now justified and he will not be accountable, right? Wrong.

There is an eternal curse (includes irrevocable confinement in the lake of fire) pronounced upon those who add to or take away from God’s Word and I believe that could include anyone who dares cast doubt upon God’s Word which is paramount to taking away (the authority) of it.

“For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: 19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.” Revelation 22:18-19

Antichrist snakes are the devils who refuse to believe God kept His promise to preserve His Word to all generations (Psalms 12:6-7). WHY? – Simple: They are rebels at heart who refuse to obey that Word. They want to consult with other antichrists by reading the new versions which make a new way, another way, a false gospel. They are “accursed” (Galatians 1:6-9). All who are true to the LORD “HATE every false way.” (Psalms 119:104, 128)

Recently I had the privilege of addressing a certain Bible corrector:

ANOTHER arrogant antichrist saying that “Holy Ghost” is a wrong translation. He sought to correct God’s Word due to his own puny understanding blocked. Here’s the rebuke he was sent before he was blocked:

“Holy GHOST” appears 183 times in God’s Word. “Ghost” simply means “spirit.” It’s only because of the modern words “ghost” being utilized 99% of the times when referring to a demon that people think it only refers to such. This ridiculous conclusion gives us a clue to who these people really are – to give this modern use of the word preference over God’s preserved Word! Repent. You are speaking against the LORD sinner… as you arrogantly seek to correct God’s Word instead of repenting… all because in your puny human mind you don’t understand.

MESSAGE RECEIVED:

“But the King James Bible added words.”

REPLY:

The only things the KJB added were bridge words to bridge the gap between languages in translations which is always necessary when translating from one language to another. AND, the KJB is the only Bible that put those added words in italics so the reader knows which words were added. And the verse you bring up is a good example. Take a look at the KJB on this verse and notice that I will all-caps the added word. Just 1 word was added and it’s “man”:

Luk 17:34  I tell you, in that night there shall be two MEN in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.

So, is “man” wrong to put here by the translators? NO, it’s the exact word that’s supposed to be here and the text proves that: “One shall be taken” can only be referring to a person!

MESSAGE RECEIVED:

“I believe the bible is the true word of GOD, but i believe some pastors are the ones who lie about what it says and then others are confused cause they never read it..i also believe the bible says knowledge will be revealed in the last days….but some think no other knowledge is needed.”

REPLY:

Well, God will never contradict His written Word. It’s the highest revelation so no other knowledge is needed. By His Holy Spirit He gave us His Word and by His Spirit in us He teaches us, leads us, and reveals “ALL things that pertain unto life and godliness” to His true children (2 Peter 1:3-4; 1 Cor 2:12-14). “Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. 21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.” (2 Peter 1:20-21) Also, closely read 2 Timothy 3:16-17. To say other knowledge is needed is to say that God lied to us and didn’t supply in His Word, by His Holy Ghost, “ALL things” His people needed for all times (2 Peter 1:3-4; 20-21, etc.).

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