CALVINISTS ARE “DECEIVING THE HEARTS OF THE SIMPLE”
The Five Basic Tenets of Calvinism
The five basic doctrines of Calvinism are represented by the acronym T-U-L-I-P. As you read through these, weigh them against the whole of Holy Scripture to test their validity. Here are John Calvin’s doctrines:
- T = TOTAL DEPRAVITY: At birth all men are depraved wholly and totally. They are in this sinful condition because they have inherited it from their parents and in this condition they have no ability to choose to do right or to obey God by repenting and placing their faith in Jesus Christ as God has specifically commanded them to. In other words, according to the Calvinist, the LORD has instructed man to do something he can’t do and yet will punish them if they don’t do what He said. According to the Calvinist, man has no say in the matter of salvation since he has no free will. Calvinism teaches that salvation is only possible if God wills it and causes it through the work of the Holy Spirit and that man has no say in the matter. The Bible tells us that “God … commandeth all men every where to repent.” (Acts 17:30) Why would God command man to do something he can’t do? Absurd!
- U = UNCONDITIONAL ELECTION: God, before the foundation of the world, arbitrarily chose to save some people and destroy all others and nothing can be done to change God’s sovereign decree.
- L = LIMITED ATONEMENT: Christ died only for the ones God had unconditionally chosen to save. (Isn’t it amazing that all who believe in “limited atonement” just happen to personally be a part of the special, privileged, elite ones to whom God has limited His salvation to? How convenient and amazing!!! How telling! How incriminating!) God’s Word says that Jesus died for the sins of the “WHOLE world.” (1 Jn. 2:2) Jesus Christ died to pay the price for all the sins of every man – In this truth alone Calvinism is found to be completely false.
- I = IRRESISTIBLE GRACE: An unregenerate person cannot voluntarily believe in God. But once God determines to save him, that same individual cannot overcome or resist the power of God no matter what he may desire.
- P = PERSEVERANCE OF THE SAINTS: Since man can do nothing but evil on his own, God’s unconditional election is required to save him. Consequently, one needs to do nothing to remain saved. If one’s salvation depended on himself in any way, the miraculous work of God in saving him would be overthrown.
As I review these profane points, it is almost comical and yet seriously alarming to think that some are so gullible and biblically illiterate as to actually believe these rank heresies. Any time one reads Calvin’s five false points, Scripture upon Scripture should come to mind that plainly refute these diabolical lies. It is an absolute impossibility to believe God’s Word and John Calvin’s doctrines simultaneously.
The one who concocted these doctrinal points and those who embrace them create a god in their own image – a cruel god who would choose one to be saved and another to be damned. The god of these teachings came all the way to earth from the glory and infinite riches of Heaven to die and pardon only some and leave the rest to suffer eternal ruin because he is just for some reason against them. The truth clearly reveals the doctrines of Calvinism/Reformed Theology to be from a false god (1 Tim. 2:4; 2 Pet. 3:9). The false god of this system of theology possesses a “grace” which goes far beyond that of the God of the Bible who requires men to fear and love Him supremely and live in faith and obedience to Him or lose out eternally (Exod. 20:2-4; Matt. 7:21; 10:28; Tit. 2:11-12; James 1:22; 1 Jn. 2:3-6; Rev. 2-3). The false grace system of Calvin’s cultish culture is a belief system that grants license for the special elect to live in the sin Jesus Christ came to earth to die and set men free from.
“Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them. For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly (selfish desires/appetites); and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.” Romans 16:17-18
In the Greek the term “fair speeches” here in Romans 16:18 means – fine style of utterance giving the appearance of reasonableness.
Note this phrase – “contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned.” (Rom. 16:17) Paul is saying here that all teaching that does not find its root in the “doctrine” of the LORD Jesus and that of His apostles and prophets (which makes up the canon of Scripture), is to be marked as false and so are those who teach it. False teachings are shown here to be something emanating from the “belly” or carnal minds of men who have (using falsehood) created a god in their own image, after their own likeness and due to their un-crucified sinful nature.
God’s true representatives are known by their purity of doctrine and character and will not use their words as tools to manipulate others for their own selfish purposes, but rather have circumcised hearts and utter things consistent only with God’s precious Word of truth (2 Cor. 2:17; 4:2; 2 Tim. 3:16-4:4; Titus 2:1, 7, 8, 10-14; 1 Pet. 4:11). These men genuinely honor the LORD. They exhibit meticulous attendance and diligence to know and communicate His truth (Titus 2:1). This is the fruit of their love for Him (Job 23:12; Ps. 119; Jer. 15:16; Mk. 8:38). Beware of the “many” who are perverting the Word of God for their own purposes:
Beware of the “many” who are perverting the Word of God for their own purposes:
“For we are not as many, which corrupt the word of God: but as of sincerity, but as of God, in the sight of God speak we in Christ.” 2 Corinthians 2:17
Specifically speaking of “false prophets” and “false teachers among the people,” Peter writes that “While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption.” (2 Pet. 2:19)
“These are wells without water (void of truth), clouds that are carried with a tempest; to whom the mist of darkness is reserved for ever (eternal damnation). For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure (seduce) through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error. While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage. For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.” 2 Peter 2:17-21
Beware that people like Paul Washer, John MacArthur, Arthur Pink, and Charles Spurgeon are calvinists. Though they may have some good quotes, their doctrinal pond is poisonous.
In response to an article we posted on the topic of eternal security, a former Calvinist writes:
“Amen, Amen, Amen! I believe that the OSAS doctrine is what is spoken about in Jude 1:4 – That there will be those who change the grace of God into lasciviousness. In every institution I attended that taught this doctrine of devils, the people lived like heathens. John Calvin died an unrepentant murderer….enough said! Now all you proud Calvinist keep all your well trained arguments I don’t buy it anymore. Signed former Calvinst.”
Using the ministry as a means to personal gain is the menacing curse of the modern church. Ministry positions across the western front have been hi-jacked by seminary-trained, professional, self-serving marketers who do not possess the heart or mind of Christ as is clear when comparing their lives to His and those of His holy apostles (2 Cor. 2:17; Phil. 3:17-19; 2 Tim. 3:10). These men who occupy positions of influence possess little or no passion for the relational holiness of God which flows out of the broken-hearted who fear God and trust fully in Jesus Christ. Many in leadership today are in the professional ministry industry (a business to them – hirelings) attempting to perpetuate their own career and build their own dynasty and local church business.
The unbiblical unconditional eternal security teaching is a central and profitable doctrine among the hoards of deceivers who plague the church world in this late hour. It defines sin and righteousness on its own terms, instead of honestly and soberly taking what God said it is in His holy Word. This no-responsibility teaching attracts the masses and draws people with the lifestyles of modern Laodicean “Christians.” Such people are never shown the essential nature of the crucified life in modern church houses. So many who do not authentically follow Christ, migrate to teachers who tell them what they wish to hear, that which feeds the carnal nature (2 Tim. 4:2-4). The false shepherd reciprocates by tickling ears in order to help him build up his local ministry business. A “Christian” life of ease and “once saved always saved” is a big and lucrative lure.
“But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily (secretly; stealthily) shall bring in damnable heresies (lies that damn souls), even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. And many shall follow their pernicious (destructive) ways; by reason of whom the way of truth (God’s Word) shall be evil spoken of. And through covetousness (greed for self-gain) shall they with feigned (fictitious) words make merchandise of you (exploit you for your money)…For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error. While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage. For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.” 2 Peter 2:1-3; 18-21
Wow! There are so many things to discover in this passage in 2 Peter! Make this a matter of personal study. Dig into the treasure chest of God’s precious Word. Here is one nugget in this passage in 2 Peter: “…by reason of whom the way of truth (God’s Word) shall be evil spoken of.” The testimony of Jesus Christ is being poisoned in the minds of many of the unsaved masses due to the “damnable heresies” of those who are “denying the LORD” with false teachings such as ‘once in grace, always in grace’ which teaches people to live in sin. This teaching removes the fear of God from the hearts of those who embrace it and makes holiness of life optional and not a necessity. Look at what Paul says concerning our preserving of the good testimony of the Gospel of Jesus and those who know Him:
“Giving no offence in any thing, that the ministry be not blamed: But in all things approving ourselves as the ministers of God, in much patience, in afflictions, in necessities, in distresses…” 2 Corinthians 6:3-4
Always remember that a doctrine is not true because of how smoothly it is presented, but rather by what the Bible says from Genesis to Revelation. There are many educated, convincing and charismatic speakers today who “by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.” This they do by teaching an unbiblical view of salvation (unconditional security). These deceivers would include numerous mainstream media personalities, pastors of large congregations, and authors of books. God’s Word is the final authority for all matters of true Christian doctrine and practice and any person’s doctrines which do not align are to be identified and marked as heresy by the true church of Jesus (Rom. 16:17-18; Gal. 1:6-9).
“Once saved always saved,” “irresistible grace,” and every other aspect of an unconditional eternal security is “contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned.” If you have studied and embraced the Word of God you know this to be completely false. We must then obey the divine mandate here to “mark them” who teach such.
Take note again of this phrase in Romans 16:17 – “contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned.” The doctrine the Holy Ghost is speaking of here is that doctrine which came through Jesus Christ, His apostles and prophets and is recorded in the Bible. Anything that doesn’t align is “contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned” or can learn in God’s Word and is to be marked and exposed as false. This begs the question as to where Jesus or His holy apostles ever even hinted that the truly saved person is automatically (whether he wants to or not) going to Heaven even if he walks away from God. Is this a doctrine of the Holy Word? After all, there are 27 books which comprise the New Testament canon, so if God wanted us to believe we are “once saved always saved,” why didn’t He just come out and tell us so?
If Christ didn’t simply and plainly tell us we are unconditionally (no matter what we choose to do) bound for His holy Heaven, then how in the world can people teach this as if it were divinely authoritative? How brazen!
One has to be taught by men an unconditional eternal security because it is nowhere to be found in Holy Scripture as a doctrine of the Christian faith. It is the job of the false teacher to “prove” his false teaching and he is only able to deceive those who are not founded in the truth (God’s Word). And he will even use Scripture to “prove” such. In over two decades of ministry to people who have been taught this unconditional eternal security lie, I have found not one who personally discovered this doctrine in the Word of God. Rather they have been taught by men, without sound and contextually true Bible revelation, that unconditional eternal security is a doctrine of the Christian faith. Any honest student of the Word who diligently searches the Scriptures, can testify that such a doctrine does not exist in the Bible other than as a teaching that is an abomination to the LORD in that it leads His people to violate His holiness and become separated from Him who is holy.
“There never was or ever can be a born Securist. You reader, or any other truly born again Christian, cannot read Eternal Security verses and get Eternal Security ‘out of’ them. The only way that Eternal Security can be attached to these verses is to ‘read it into’ them. This proves that Eternal Security is an extra-Biblical, external philosophy, seeking Biblical sanction. People are ‘educated into’ Eternal Security, just as truly as atheists are ‘educated into’ atheism.” Henry Schilling
Beware that people like Paul Washer, John MacArthur, Arthur Pink, and CHARLES SPURGEON are calvinists. Though they may have some good quotes, their doctrinal pond is poisonous.
Concerning the matter of being tarnished with the lies of Satan and Calvin, in his book entitled The Disciple-Making Minister, David Kirkwood writes:
“Near the end of his booklet, Piper quotes legendary Baptist preacher Charles Spurgeon, who said that he began as an Arminian (Arminians disagree with all five points of Calvinism), like everyone else. This is a telling remark because it is so true. No one begins as a Calvinist. They only become Calvinists as they are taught Calvinism. Piper’s own testimony is no different. He admits ‘many years of struggle’ (p. 1, prgh. 4) before he was able to accept Calvinism. Perhaps even more difficult than the struggle to accept Calvinism is the struggle to reject it after one has struggled so hard to accept it. But it can, and has, been done.”
Earnestly contending for the faith once delivered to the saints is a divine mandate – especially against those who are turning the saving grace of God into a license for sin and that’s exactly what the heresies of calvinism do (Jude 3-4). Paul says that “a little leaveneth the whole lump” and so while Spurgeon taught some biblical truth, he poisoned the pond with calvinism’s cancerous doctrine of devils. Here’s the roots of calvinism, rooted in catholicism. Calvinism by Ken Rieske
Though commanded by God and recorded in His Word, today the whole notion conveyed by some is that obedience is optional to anyone who has genuinely been made a new creature through the divinely granted miracle of being born again. Wow, what unabashed mockery! What a travesty these men are perpetrating against the Most High! The LORD told us to “mark” these men, “For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly (selfish desires); and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.” (Rom. 16:17-18)
The apostle Peter warned sternly of going back into sin and of the end being worse than it would have been if that person had never known the way of righteousness (2 Pet. 2:20-21). Under the Spirit’s direction, Peter also commanded: “Dearly beloved, I beseech you as strangers and pilgrims, abstain from fleshly lusts, which war against the soul.” (1 Pet. 2:11) Note the resolute and potent divinely-inspired words of Peter here. There leaves no room to wonder when we read these precious and divinely-breathed words of Holy Writ. In this late hour so many who have been elevated to the status of Christian celebrity, “deceive the hearts of the simple” with their flowery and deceptive doctrines and language. No such evil persuasion came from the mouths or pens of the apostles of Christ.
In the complete absence of even one example of the God of the Bible ever forcing any person to serve Him, these false teachers forge ahead with their “good words and fair speeches deceiving the hearts of the simple.” (Rom. 16:17-18) They convey the notion and even blatantly teach that those who are born again will automatically persevere in obedience and fellowship with Christ. But the Word of God always presents the choice to God’s people – to continue to walk with Him or to turn from Him in rebellion. “Choose you this day whom ye will serve.” (Josh. 24:15) Serving God is a blessed and daily decision (Deut. 30:19; Isa. 1:18-20; Lk. 9:23). A cursory look at Israel in the Old Testament Scriptures reveals this as clear as the light shining as the noon day sun. In their own self-will, those who teach this no-personal-responsibility heresy, ignore clearly revealed divine truth, giving preference to their doctrine of devils, and in so doing, serve their own “belly” and carnal desires. See also Philippians 3:17-21.
“And this I say, lest any man should beguile you with enticing words…Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.” Colossians 2:4, 8
Beware of the modern day deceiver who works to cleverly articulate his Calvinistic and poisonous points of theology, using myth and human reasoning while violating revealed divine truth in the very Word of God. This is a grave evil being perpetrated from pulpits, books and other media across the world, leading millions to the worship of a false god. These are deceivers. They do not honor God and His Word.
“For we are not as many, which corrupt the word of God: but as of sincerity, but as of God, in the sight of God speak we in Christ.” 2 Corinthians 2:17
In light of the numerous passages which clearly demonstrate that salvation can and will be forfeited by any born again person not remaining in faithful obedience to Christ, it is clear that many have misunderstood the message of God’s Word on how Christ and His glorious salvation must be abided in (Jn. 15). Some fail to understand that salvation must be maintained by an ongoing faith in Christ alone and that is a choice, never forced. This one fact alone – that God never forces man to do anything – causes the intertwined 5 points of Calvinism to crumble. The notion that one is automatically going to persevere to the end if he is truly saved, is completely unfounded – no where to be found in Holy Scripture. Like much of John Calvin’s heretical teachings, this doctrine of deceit violates volumes of known truth and does not take into account the whole of the LOGOS (written Word). Regrettably, many today hold Calvin’s teachings as their final authority and don’t even realize it. They bend even the Bible to fit Calvin’s heresies, instead of discarding these lethal lies when they realize how they grossly contradict God’s Word. Many a person who is deluded by this ‘irresistible grace’ heresy seems to be inoculated from scriptural truth. Even after being shown numerous Bible texts which clearly reveal Calvin’s teachings to be erroneous, some of these people crassly dismiss the divine truth they read with their very own eyes, vainly believing that somehow God didn’t really mean what He plainly stated. Like all cults, it seems like these lies inoculated them from truth. Yet, when asked, these men claim to follow Christ and honor God’s Word. In reality they are following the doctrines of mere men and devils and in most cases have no clue they are doing so. Should we be surprised in light of what our LORD said concerning this to the religionists of His day? (Mk. 7:6-9)
John Calvin’s 5 points are a masterminded diabolic system to pervert the grace of our God and to defy the holiness of the LORD, justify sin, and bring God’s people into the depth of depravity and ultimately damnation – all the while thinking they are “once saved always saved.” Those who have embraced these blatant and biblically defying lies have no idea who is behind this system of deceit. They think this is the truth of Jesus Christ and yet it is actually the lies of the dark lord of damnation who has come to steal, kill and destroy (Jn. 10:10).
Annihilating one of Calvin’s 5 points, Robert Shank says:
“But we must protest that a god who, while rescuing some, simply ‘passes by’ others in the same lost circumstance is so little like the Good Samaritan in our Lord’s parable and so much like the priest and the Levite that he cannot be the God who desires to have all men saved and none to perish. Such a god constitutes a total contradiction to the spirit of the words of James, ‘To him who knows to do good and does it not, to him it is sin’ (4:17)…A god so heartless and so arbitrary cannot be the God who so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son to exile, sorrow, suffering, shame and death. He cannot be the God who cries with sorrowing heart and infinite compassion, ‘Look unto me and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth, for I am God, and there is none other’ (Isa. 45:22). He cannot be the God whose grace has appeared for the salvation of all men (Tit. 2:11). Such an arbitrary god is not the God we worship and adore, the God in whom we trust.” (Robert Shank, Elect in the Son, p.193)
Friends, in this writer’s opinion and that of many others, John Calvin was the worst heretic in church history. He picked up and re-launched the very original lie Satan told the woman in the Garden. He grossly corrupted the holy image of the one true God with his evil and blasphemous teachings. Calvin set forth heresies that live on today in the minds of many deceived people, some who are well-meaning. LORD, bless us to love and embrace Thy truth, which establishes who You truly are and reveals the doctrines of men and devils to be evil tools to lure away the righteous to perdition. Amen.
In a written response to a Calvinist concerning the belief in an unconditional election, Jeff Paton writes:
“So why do you recoil from God knowing whom He would elect from before the foundation of the world? I don’t, I believe it! God only has one Church, one Bride who is elect before the foundation of the world, not millions of individuals mysteriously elected before the foundation of the world! Ephesians 1:4, ‘According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:’ – notice who is ‘US’ in the passage…it refers to BELIEVERS, the Church. Who has God chosen? Believers. How? In Christ (the Gospel). That was and has always been God’s plan. No election from eternity here for a single individual to salvation. Revelation 17:8, ‘The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.’ – Once again, the passage says NOTHING of election to salvation BEFORE or AT the foundation of the world! It says in English ‘FROM’ the foundation of the world. The Greek does not, and cannot mean ‘AT’ or ‘BEFORE’ and therefore gives no support to the notion that God has chosen or elected anyone by anything other than faith in Christ. You can create difficulties that are just not there. There is not one passage that suggests or states that any individual is elected to salvation from eternity, or any other time.
Lots of questions, but answering one or all of them will not substitute Scripture, and especially your lack of any Scripture that asserts your assumed theology. All too many are willing to be led around by the nose by philosophy and sophistry, but I find it quite unconvincing until I have a reason from Scripture to believe it. The obvious fact is, you have no Scripture, just arguments and leading questions designed to arrive at your presuppositions.”
The Calvinist has been taught a system of theology that is foreign to Holy Writ. To illustrate just how unscriptural and deceptive Calvinistic teachings can be, let’s look at what seems to be the center point belief of the Calvinist – the theology of what they call the “sovereignty of God.” It is disturbing to observe that in the theology of Calvinists they have nearly deified the “sovereignty” of God when the words “sovereign” or “sovereignty” never appear in Holy Scripture. Due to the fact that the word “sovereign” appears no where in His Word, we can unmistakably conclude that the LORD obviously did not want His people being preoccupied with this. These masters of manipulation completely ignore the holiness of the LORD when the word “holy” and “holiness” appear nearly 600 times in the Bible. Numbers don’t lie. Those who will be in relationship with the Almighty are commanded and required to “be ye holy; for I am holy.” (Lev. 20:7; 1 Pet. 1:15-16) Are the people of God commanded to believe that He is sovereign? No. We do know from His Word that experiencing His real holiness is a prerequisite for Heaven (Matt. 5:8; Heb. 12:14; Rev. 21:8, 27). Now this complete over-emphasis of a non-essential and brazen ignoring of an essential truth about the very core nature of the one true God is an evil tragedy which is deluding and damning millions today. This is a classic case of deceivers working within Christendom teaching “perverse things” which are “contrary to the doctrine” of the Bible and are “turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.” (Acts 20:29-31; Rom. 16:17-18; Jude 3-4) In denying His attributes and grossly over-emphasizing a characteristic His Word never does, these false teachers clearly deny the LORD.
There is a cleverly crafted premise and sequential order here. In this system we witness a layered order of beliefs. Each layer is carefully built one upon another. One point has to be embraced before a person can be deluded into believing the next ones. Each of Calvin’s five points are interconnected and interdependent. In order to convince one that he is without condition absolutely eternally secure regardless of any choice he may make, requires that the person believe that God sovereignly saved him and will sovereignly keep him with no responsibility on the recipient’s part. The false god of Calvinism says the individual has no say-so and that he is forced to go to Heaven or hell. His destiny is predetermined according to this diabolical system of lies. In this system of theology the LORD pre-selects some to be saved and some to be lost and no one has a choice. This is an evil set of beliefs that defy the Word of the living God, inevitably deluding those who embrace them.
If a person does not purposely develop “the love of the truth” he will absolutely be turned over to deceiving spirits to be deluded and ultimately damned (2 Thess. 2:10-12).
Surely the LORD is sovereign, yet it is deception to divorce such a divine attribute from the wholeness of His Person and attributes. He who “magnified” His “word…above” His own “name” sovereignly chose to tell His people in His written Counsel that holiness is indigenous of who He is and a requirement for those who will know and be with Him (Lev. 19:2; Ps. 33:11; 138:2; Heb. 12:14).
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What Does Christ’s Great Commission Call Us to do?
“So teach us to number our days, that we may apply our hearts unto wisdom.” Psalms 90:12
The dire need of the salvation of eternal souls necessitates that we walk in God’s wisdom in these final of days before our LORD’s return.
“Continue in prayer, and watch in the same with thanksgiving; 3 Withal praying also for us, that God would open unto us a door of utterance, to speak the mystery of Christ, for which I am also in bonds: 4 That I may make it manifest, as I ought to speak. 5 Walk in wisdom toward them that are without, redeeming the time. 6 Let your speech be alway with grace, seasoned with salt, that ye may know how ye ought to answer every man.” Colossians 4:2-6
Paul on Mars Hill
Did Paul believe he had to answer every question? Did he entertain questions?
“The hill is historically significant as a site of philosophical debate and as the location where the Apostle Paul delivered a sermon to the Athenians, as recorded in the New Testament.”
On Mars Hill Paul didn’t seem to affront his audience as much as he sought to reveal who the known God is as they had built an altar “TO THE UNKNOWN GOD.” (Acts 17:23) Paul sought to turn them to the one true God, to inform them of who He is – The One who sent His only begotten Son to be crucified and raised again for their justification, calling them to repentance.
“And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:” Acts 17:30
Romans 1 informs us that God’s wrath abides upon all who hold or suppress the truth in unrighteousness …. and that the Gospel of Jesus is “the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth.” (Romans 1:16-20)
Ascertaining by Scripture what the LORD sent us to accomplish
What did Jesus send us, His people, to do?
“What a tragedy to spend precious time on these things (foolish questions) while a world is perishing!” William MacDonald, Believer’s Bible Commentary
“Preach the word” is the divine command (2 Timothy 4:2).
“How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?” Romans 10:14
Jesus, the apostles, nor the earliest followers never set up a location where they entertained every question and potshot the heathen could throw at them. No, they were on mission, as Christ’s “ambassadors” to preach and teach the Gospel, the Word of God.
“Go ye into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature.” Mark 16:15
“Preach the word….” 2 Timothy 4:2
Notice, no mention of “going and asking people what they believe or setting up a table and answering questions. Sorry to those who balk, such is not the Great Commission.
“Stop the tip toeing around people. Preach the whole counsel of God ‘word. Let the Holy Spirit do the work in them. You are not the Holy Spirit.” Darlene Dusza
We are so far removed from original Gospel learning, adherence, and obedience that this revelation will shock some and even anger others. Yet an honest study of the Holy Scriptures reveals these things plainly.
A.W. Tozer declared:
“We are called to preach the Bible. Not to prove it. The Holy Ghost is all the proof we need.”
I agree with his statement as it plainly aligns with the mission and Gospel action of Christ, His holy apostles, and the earliest followers of Jesus as is recorded on the pages of New Testament Scripture.
Perhaps many a follower of Jesus is hindered in his ministering by thinking he’s not qualified since he sees so many modern day question answerers…. Yet is anyone getting saved? No. Those who are answering the questions of our day thrown at them and recorded, are not preaching the Word of God. At best they may sneak something from the Bible or mention the Bible but they are not preaching the Gospel under the inspiration and power of the Holy Spirit as Jesus mandated (Acts 1:4-8, etc.).
One disciples declared:
“It is incumbent on us to lead them to His Word (to give them HIS Word). The Holy Spirit will bring them to the Cross!”
“Now the parable is this: The seed is the word of God.” Luke 8:11
“For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.” Romans 1:16
“Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.” 1 Peter 1:23
“So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.” Isaiah 55:11
“Of his own will begat he us with the word of truth, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures.” James 1:18
Satan’s work is to ensnare, to entangle Christ’s messengers in “foolish questions” in order to distract and divert them from planting the seed of the Word of God from which salvation springs.
Satan is always the one behind the diversions, the tactics to block sinners from salvation… to create the noise pollution in an attempt to stop them from getting saved and therefore being translated out of his kingdom (Colossians 1:12-14). Do we remember how….
“But Elymas the sorcerer (for so is his name by interpretation) withstood them, seeking to turn away the deputy from the faith. 9 Then Saul, (who also is called Paul,) filled with the Holy Ghost, set his eyes on him, 10 And said, O full of all subtilty and all mischief, thou child of the devil, thou enemy of all righteousness, wilt thou not cease to pervert the right ways of the Lord?” Acts 13:8-10
Gentlemen, you don’t owe everyone an answer to their every question. Just obey God by preaching the Word. God gave us all His Word, the Bible. Beware of being misled by the whiners who act like Christians owe them an answer to their every question which emanates from an unbelieving, rebellious heart. They have a Bible but have refused to repent truly. When someone repents, they begin to devour the WORD for themselves and don’t whine about not understanding all the answers to life (2 Timothy 2:15; 4:2-4).
Are we not told to “avoid foolish questions”? And questioning the Creator while drowning, living in His creation seems to be one of the reasons for the many “foolish questions” we see being entertained today.
“But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain. 10 A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject; 11 Knowing that he that is such is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned of himself.” Titus 3:9-11
We should be armed with the knowledge, ahead of time, that there are many who throw out “foolish questions” to entangle and divert Christ’s disciples, to derail them from preaching the Word as God commands (2 Timothy 4:2).
“But foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing that they do gender strifes.” 2 Timothy 2:23
Examples of “foolish questions” people use to divert from the truth that they are sinners in need of the Savior:
- “What about the people who have never heard the Bible, the Gospel preached to them?”
- “What about all the hypocrites who claim to be Christians?”
- “But the Bible has been translated over and over and so it’s not accurate.” –
- “What about the lost books of the Bible?” –
- QUESTION: “Where did Adam and Eve’s son’s wives come from?”
POSSIBLE ANSWER: “We can understand the discomfort this interpretation might cause. Incest taboos are deeply ingrained in human societies for both biological and social reasons. But in the context of the first human family, such unions would have been necessary and not yet forbidden.” ChristianPure.com
The priority command of Christ via His Great Commission mandate, is for His people to go preach the Gospel, to teach the Bible (end of Mark end of Matthew).
Perhaps we can surmise that avoiding “foolish questions” involves navigation, sticking to the most important Bible truth – salvation – upholding, planting the seed of the truth, the Word, keeping the main thing the main thing…
Recently I had a man who is a new ager, spiritual type ask me if it concerned me that babies are being killed by Jews in Palestine….
“Foolish questions” being asked is the diversionary tactic of the enemy of souls. Concerning “foolish questions”, one source notes:
“All four of these practices—pointless debate, arguments over genealogy, quarrels, and debates over the law of Moses—are considered a waste of time. All they accomplish is taking energy and resources away from the ministry Paul had entrusted to Titus.”
Another source notes the following on “foolish questions”:
“Examples of foolish questions include those that are unprofitable, speculative, and serve no purpose beyond generating strife or satisfying curiosity, such as debates on the number of angels on a pinhead, excessive speculation about the antichrist, or questions about biblical prophecies that God has not revealed. The context of Titus 3:9 is a directive from the Apostle Paul to avoid such debates and instead focus on maintaining good works and godly living.”
Don’t be distracted. You are on mission for the LORD. You are there to preach the Word and not win arguments…. to win souls…. Deal meekly and mildly as is possible and deposit the convicting law of the LORD which is able to convert the soul, to make wise the simple, to rejoice the hearts of men, to enlighten their eyes,
“The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple. 8 The statutes of the LORD are right, rejoicing the heart: the commandment of the LORD is pure, enlightening the eyes. 9 The fear of the LORD is clean, enduring for ever: the judgments of the LORD are true and righteous altogether.” Psalms 19:7-9
God did not send His only begotten Son nor us to try to talk anyone into the greatest blessing and gift that every has or will exist – all done to save them from the sin that is destroying them and will result in their irrevocable eternal damnation.
God instructs us not to waste our/HIS time:
“Speak not in the ears of a fool: for he will despise the wisdom of thy words.” Proverbs 23:9
We are to “be ready” to give a biblical answer and a personal testimony of the saving grace of Christ we’ve personally experienced at the moment and thereafter of being born again.
“But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:” 1 Peter 3:15
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Viewing Charlie Kirk Through the Eyes of God’s Word [podcast]
Did Charlie Kirk do more for Christ than many of those who have become preoccupied with condemning him?
“The world shall rejoice”
Some people (even some falsely claiming to be Christians) rejoice when others, when Christians die.
“Verily, verily, I say unto you, That ye shall weep and lament, but the world shall rejoice: and ye shall be sorrowful, but your sorrow shall be turned into joy.” John 16:20
Earlier in this very chapter Jesus foretold that the way they hated and persecuted Him, so shall they do to you, His followers. Take a look:
“These things have I spoken unto you, that ye should not be offended. 2 They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service. 3 And these things will they do unto you, because they have not known the Father, nor me.” John 16:1-3
Sorting things out…
IF someone sees a NON-essential issue, such as the Charlie Kirk issue, differently than you see it, that does not make them unsaved. Get a clue and get over yourself. Dare we cause division in the body of Christ based on things NOT essential to salvation!?
“Who art thou that judgest another man’s servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand. 5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.” Romans 14:3-4
Nothing the haters of Charlie Kirk can say undoes, negates the preaching of God’s Word Kirk did. Just before he was murdered he declared that “It’s ALL about Jesus!” and “Jesus died so we could live.”
Charlie died as a young man and didn’t have the seasoning and experience of 40-, 50-, 60- or 70-year-olds. He had been misled in some ways and yet it seems he finished in the faith. The more of his videos one may watch, the more this may become evident. Yet, either way, the way we view him is no essential to salvation. The way we view and believe or disbelieve Jesus Christ IS essential to salvation.
Earlier today, a man told me to “repent” for seeing this Charlie Kirk issue differently than he sees it. So, it seems he is acting in the place of God, being his own god, to whom everyone around him must bow down and serve. Seems that anyone who doesn’t see everything the way he does, in his corrupted self-serving mind, needs to repent. There was no sin he cited that I committed so, what should I repent for? For seeing something different than he sees it?
He cared more about his own opinion than the body of Christ for which Jesus died and rose again. Read Romans 14. There is liberty in things NOT essential to salvation. This week I have unfriended and blocked several people who are out of control with their seeking to violate the liberty the LORD gives to each of His saints in NON-essentials.
“Behold, how good and how pleasant it is for brethren to dwell together in unity!” Psalms 133:1
“Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.” Ephesians 4:3
Jesus commanded that we “LOVE one another” and that’s what the true remnant of Christ will do (John 13:34).
“By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.” John 13:15
Walking in God’s love does not lead us to violate the God-given individual liberty of other of His children whom He died to save. Do you understand what is taught in Romans 14?
God is and will continue to use the death of Charlie Kirk for His own glory and the Almighty didn’t need you or your puny permission to do so.
If Charlie Kirk didn’t often speak God’s Word, how is it then that now after his death, scores of people are coming forth saying they are now seeking God as a result of what was spoken out of the mouth of Charlie Kirk?
It seems that there are some among us who would rather see people go to hell than for God to dare use Charlie Kirk’s life to save those people’s souls.
As usual there are many conflicting theories including that CK faked his death …. I don’t have all the answers…. do you? What does Deuteronomy 29:29 tell us?
Just before he was murdered, Charlie Kirk posted the following statement: “Jesus defeated death so you could live.”
“This is being said in love. There are people on here who probably should step back and do a lot more reading of the word of God and praying and a lot less talking and posting. I’m seeing way too much strife, pride, slander, bearing false witness, unrighteous judgment, hypocrisy, and in some cases hatred. None of those things bring glory to the Lord Jesus Christ.” Gloria
God gave us two ears and just one mouth – so we do more listening (to Him and others) than speaking.
“Wherefore, my beloved brethren, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath: 20 For the wrath of man worketh not the righteousness of God.” James 1:19-20
“Charlie Kirk’s death is shaking the church. In more then one way, some are revealing spotted hearts, others are being humbled & coming to repentance. Whatever you think of his politics, he was not ashamed of Christ. He boldly declared his faith to millions! Charlie absolutely died in the faith. Pause and recognize this.
This is not about Trump, MAGA, False Trump prophets, NAR or politics—it is about whether we will love the brethren in spite of our differences and humble ourselves before God. If anyone says, ‘I love God,’ and hates his brother, he is a liar (1 John 4:20). This is a test of the heart.
Don’t let yourself be too distracted with rabbit holes, conspiracies, and opinions of man to miss this moment in your own heart. ‘God resists the proud but gives grace to the humble’ (James 4:6).
This is not a call to civil uprising against the Left—God forbid! it is a call for repentance in the Church (starting in my own heart first). This doesn’t mean you have to follow MAGA, or stop using critical thinking.” Robin Figtree
The WORD of God he spoke shattered and will continue to destroy the lies told in our generation. There’s no denying this. God even uses donkeys to speak His Word and the effect is the same because it’s GOD’s Word (Numbers 22). Isaiah 55:11 ….. Nothing can undo that Word of God he spoke by which sinners are saved, born again (1 Peter 1:23).
“Charlie Kirk was faithful unto death. He stood boldly against abortion, LGBT indoctrination, and Islam’s denial of Jesus Christ. For lifting up the Gospel he was martyred in front of his family. He finished his race and will receive the crown of life (Revelation 2:10).
Is Charlie’s life and death not galvanizing many to overcome the fear of man and preach Christ’s Gospel?
True & False Disciples: Many will say ‘Lord, Lord,’ pointing to works and miracles, but Jesus will say, ‘I never knew you; depart, ye that work iniquity.’
Two Foundations: The wise build on the rock by hearing and doing Jesus’s words. The foolish build on sand , hearing but not obeying, and their fall is great.”
The Shaking of Our Time
Hebrews 12 says God is shaking all things. We are seeing the separation between those who endure in Christ and those who walk in Balaam’s compromis.
Charlie Kirk HAD FLAWED DOCTRINE & Limited understanding but chose bold faith.
Only those who build on the Rock — hearing and obeying Jesus’s words — will endure the storm and stand WITH CROWNS in the FINAL judgment.
Final Word:
Claiming the name of Jesus isn’t enough. Works and ministries aren’t enough. Obedience, endurance, and faithfulness unto death are required (Revelation 2:10, Matthew 24:13).
“The question is not: Do you say ‘Lord, Lord’? The question is: Are you building on the Rock or the sand?” Glenn Langohr
“For those who say Charlie didn’t share the gospel, of which I could share multiple videos of him doing such, I think this is about as close as it gets! ‘Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.’ 1 Corinthians 12:3 KJV.” Stacy Strother
Having limited knowledge, that is my opinion on it….. the truth he spoke cannot be unspoken nor minimalized and it lives on.
I’ve actually exposed this on a post on the ministry site safeguardyoursoul.com ….. yet IMO it seems Kirk, being only 31, didn’t understand many things and erred … yet that does not negate the fact that he did boldly declare the Word of God.
“There are videos of Charlie Kirk rebuking Catholicism for praying to Mary etc and rebuking Mormonism. Charlie Kirk was ignorant of much on sound doctrine for sure. But was he faithful to what GOD called him to do?” Glenn Langohr
This seems to reveal that Charlie Kirk didn’t understand with any depth what is “the faith” of the Gospel. He was learning. Did you understand everything in God’s Word and about the false religions before you grew in the Word? As a young Christian, I thought the mormons were Christians and later found out that was false. Even if all these evil things about Charlie Kirk are true, NOTHING negates, diminishes that he spoke God’s Word on many occasions.
The vilest of demon possessed psychopaths are celebrating the death of Charlie Kirk. Why would they do such if Charlie Kirk made no impact for the LORD? They wouldn’t.
There are some people who HATE Charlie Kirk…. but just remember, it doesn’t matter if it’s a man or a donkey, if the Word of God is coming out of their mouth, it’s still the Word of God. In Numbers 22 God used a donkey to speak to and warn Balaam. No one can deny that Charlie Kirk spoke God’s Word. If a person denies such, you know you are 1). dealing with a person who just hasn’t seen it with their own eyes, or 2). a dishonest person who has an agenda.
“So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.” Isaiah 55:11
To a man whose feelings were hurt by the straight talk of Charlie Kirk, the following reply was given:
Only a moral coward would object to a man speaking the truth straight. Too many pansies flying around these days, pretending to be men of God. Not. Read Matthew 23. Would you call Christ’s apostle Paul a man of God, of truth, or man full of “hate speech”?
Here’s what Paul said to a false prophecy:
“And said, O full of all subtilty and all mischief, THOU CHILD OF THE DEVIL, thou enemy of all righteousness, wilt thou not cease to pervert the right ways of the Lord?” Acts 13:10
“Thou therefore endure hardness, as a good soldier of Jesus Christ.” 2 Timothy 2:3
“Watch ye, stand fast in the faith, quit (act!) you like men, be strong.” 1 Corinthians 16:13
When a man truly repents, he will fear God and the LORD will give him a steel spine.
Charlie Kirk’s advice to a young man who asked:
- Read your Bible.
- Do what it says.
- Tell others what the Bible says
Does this murder principally resemble Cain and Abel?
“And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD. 2 And she again bare his brother Abel. And Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground. 3 And in process of time it came to pass, that Cain brought of the fruit of the ground an offering unto the LORD. 4 And Abel, he also brought of the firstlings of his flock and of the fat thereof. And the LORD had respect unto Abel and to his offering: 5 But unto Cain and to his offering he had not respect. And Cain was very wroth, and his countenance fell. 6 And the LORD said unto Cain, Why art thou wroth? and why is thy countenance fallen? 7 If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him. 8 And Cain talked with Abel his brother: and it came to pass, when they were in the field, that Cain rose up against Abel his brother, and slew him.” Genesis 4:1-8
Cain murdered his brother Abel out of jealousy and resentment. His (Cain’s) life was not going well due to doing things his own way instead of God’s way. So he was in darkness and miserable and therefore became jealously enraged that his brother’s life was flourishing and full of life due to Abel serving God on God’s terms (Matthew 6:33).
Keep in mind that at just 31 years old, Charlie Kirk had built a movement that is worldwide and of enormous proportions of influence over young people in particular. There would seem to be lots to be jealous of if one is sulking in, living in sin.
We do know that “There is no new thing under the sun” (Ecclesiastes 1:9). Could this same scenario have played out between Charlie Kirk and his killer? What kind of evil drove Kirk’s murderer to plan and go climb upon a roof and wait hours to murder his fellow man?
One overview of the Murder of Abel by his brother Cain goes as such:
It would seem apparent that Satan wanted Charlie Kirk killed due to Charlie boldly proclaiming parts of the Word of God. That alone does not mean Charlie was saved and/or doing things God’s way in all the areas of his thinking or organization. But one thing is certain, Kirk did declare God’s Word at times and no matter the human source, the human communicator, it’s still the Word of God and was reaching millions (Isaiah 55:11). Charlie was a bold statesman-like figure with communication giftings that were profound.
Cain killed Abel due to jealousy and resentment after God accepted Abel’s offering but rejected Cain’s, which God found to be of lesser quality and gratitude. Although the Bible doesn’t explicitly state the exact motivation, Cain became depressed and took his anger out on Abel, leading to the first murder.
The Biblical Account
- The Offerings: Cain, a farmer, and Abel, a shepherd, both presented offerings to God.
- Rejection of Cain’s Offering: Abel offered the “first and fattest sheep of his flock” while Cain offered “some of his poorer crops.” God accepted Abel’s offering but rejected Cain’s.
- Cain’s Anger: Cain became very angry and depressed after God rejected his offering.
- The Murder: Cain met Abel in a field and murdered him, taking out his anger on his brother.
Why Cain was Jealous
- God’s Acceptance: Cain was jealous that Abel’s offering was accepted and his was not.
- Pride and Resentment: Cain’s pride was wounded, and he resented God’s righteous judgment.
Interpretations
- Jealousy as the motive:
Many interpreters, including ancient exegetes like Josephus, believe that jealousy was the primary cause for the murder.
Those who do things their own way instead of God’s, are full of misery and pent up resentment and therefore jealousy of those who do things God’s way which always brings blessings to their lives. This was the case with Cain and likely the case with Charlie Kirk’s killer.
Like Cain, who was jealous of Abel and therefore murdered him in cold blood, could it be that there are those who are jealous of the influence, the diligence and success of Charlie Kirk who are now assassinating him with their heart hatred and the words of their mouths? Could that be the reason many are taking their hatred public against him, after he’s been murdered? Notice how these same people have no joy for the fact that Charlie Kirk did preach some of God’s Word and it did and is reaching many.
“What then? notwithstanding, every way, whether in pretence, or in truth, Christ is preached; and I therein do rejoice, yea, and will rejoice.” Philippians 1:18
So yes, Paul rejoices that Christ was preached which Charlie did much of the time and yet Charlie did speak some things that are not true……
Does Satan care if only half the things you say are Bible truth? No. If the 50% of truth you preach, it’s still the Word and getting planted in the hearts of men who need God…..
Charlie was once asked a pretty wild question:
“If I had 30 seconds to live, I’m dying of a gunshot wound, what would you actually want to tell me?”
Charlie Kirk told the man that he must repent and receive Christ as his LORD and Savior.
SUMMATION: i don’t sense in CK an intentionally evil heart…. misled by others, those older than him, yes but having a heart determined to be or work evil? I don’t see it. I have seen and heard Charlie boldly, clearly state too much biblical truth to believe he is intentionally believing other things that are error.
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Of Charlie Kirk, brother Glenn Langohr writes:
“Charlie Kirk’s voice reached millions. He defended God’s covenant of marriage, the duty of men to provide, and stood against abortion — fighting demonic powers that shed innocent blood (Ps 106:37–38, Gen 4:10). He resisted LGBT propaganda corrupting the young, standing like a watchman. For this, we give God glory and remember him as a man used in significant ways.
But friends, Charlie also had errors. He confessed he ‘cringes’ at street preachers, yet Jesus Himself came preaching ‘Repent or perish’ (Luke 13:3) and commanded, ‘Go into all the world and preach the gospel” (Mark 16:15). Paul declared, ‘God commands all men everywhere to repent”'(Acts 17:30). Street preaching is God’s pattern (Jer 7, Acts 5, 1 Cor 1:18–21). To belittle it is to misunderstand the very tool God uses to save.
Charlie was also misled by Jack Hibbs’ Pre-Tribulation rapture teaching, which Scripture refutes. Paul warns: ‘Let no man deceive you… that day shall not come except there come a falling away first, and the man of sin be revealed’ (2 Thess 2:3). Daniel 12 calls endurance to 1,335 days ‘blessed’. Revelation 20 says those beheaded for Jesus will reign with Him 1,000 years. The Church will face Antichrist’s persecution before Jesus returns. Charlie finished his course as a martyr, but we must carry on, warning: Only those who endure to the end shall be saved (Matt 24:13).”
He said a lot of good, Bible based things…. WHY would anyone argue with that part?
Many a celebrity has claimed to be Christian yet never spoke the Word of God publicly perhaps for fear of it hurting their career, their money. Such was not the case with Charlie Kirk. He spoke boldly and often about Christ Jesus and His Gospel.
One saint of Christ notes the following:
“The amount of deception with his (Kirk’s) death is shocking!! Everyone seems to be an expert at what they think he believed.”
The hatred of professing Christians against Charlie Kirk is a concern (1 John 3:14-15).
We should be busy about our Father’s business right? Some seem to be wasting their time nit picking Charlie Kirk, feeling like that MUST weigh in on him instead of letting God handle what is in HIS hands (Deuteronomy 29:29).
WHY would satan’s people hate him so much if he didn’t spread the Gospel, the Word to some degree?
“I was an atheist, and this event made me realize I had been asking the wrong questions. I’m going to church tomorrow to pray for Charlie’s family, and I want to learn about Christ and what made Charlie so courageous to risk his life and spread the gospel. Seeing those who celebrate and are justifying his death proved evil is real, and the only way to fight back is with grace and faith. Charlie did not die in vain. He didn’t deserve this, but his courage and faith live on. Rest in peace, Charlie Kirk.” Michael Choi
I was critical of his pumping of the pope…. and his seeming lean toward ecumenism and yet Charlie Kirk did speak God’s Word strongly at times…..I choose to rejoice at that. I saw a guy in his 40s interviewed yesterday, in tears for Charlie Kirk’s death…. he said he was a life long atheist but Charlie Kirk and how he spoke, brought the man to Christ. Also Paul rejoiced that the Gospel was preached even when preached by mixed bags with bad motives even amen Phil 1. God knows all. “What then? notwithstanding, every way, whether in pretence, or in truth, Christ is preached; and I therein do rejoice, yea, and will rejoice.” Philippians 1:18
If Paul did, shouldn’t we, Christ’s disciples today rejoice when the Gospel is preached – regardless of who is speaking the words of God?
Yes and yet God is God
“Philippians 1:15-16
Some indeed preach Christ out of contention – Envying Paul’s success, and striving to hurt him thereby. Not sincerely – From a real desire to glorify God. But supposing – Though they were disappointed. To add more affliction to my bonds – By enraging the Romans against me.” John Wesley
“1:15 The motive in some hearts was jealousy and rivalry. They preached Christ out of envy and contentiousness.
Others had sincere and pure motives; they preached Christ from good will, in an honest effort to help the apostle.
1:16 The jealous preachers thought that by doing this they might make Paul’s imprisonment more bitter. Their message was good, but their temper was bad. It is sad to think that Christian service can be carried on in the energy of the flesh, motivated by greed, strife, pride, and envy. This teaches the necessity for watching our motives when we serve the Lord. We must not do it for self-display, for the advancement of a religious sect, or for the defeat of other Christians. Here is a good example of the necessity for our love to be exercised in knowledge and discernment. 1:17 Others were preaching the gospel out of pure and sincere love, knowing that Paul was determined to defend the gospel. There was nothing selfish, sectarian, or cruel in their service. They knew very well that Paul had been committed to prison because of his bold stand for the gospel. So they determined to carry on the work while he was thus confined. 1:18 Paul refuses to be downcast by the wrong motives of some. Christ is being preached by both groups, and that is for him a great cause for rejoicing.
It is remarkable that under such difficult circumstances, Paul does not feel sorry for himself or seek the sympathy of others. Rather he is filled with the joy of the Lord and encourages his readers to rejoice also.” Believer’s Bible Commentary
“Charlie because of you, I’m going back to church!! Thank you.” Laura
“Charlie’s departure from earth is evidence that his message was effective and darkness cannot stand the light . RIP Charlie Kirk.” Jane
“I’m going to church on Sunday due to this beautiful man.” Matt
“I’m old enough to be Charlie’s father but he inspired me and taught me some things I researched to confirm truth. He was brilliant, highly educated and a national treasure. He’s w/Jesus Christ Jesus now. They can only threaten us w/heaven.” Veteran
“Charlie brought me closer to Jesus. The pain I’m feeling from his death is indescribable. I’ve never met him, but I learned so much from him, I learned truth. The boldness in him is now released into us. Gen z, this is God putting it into our face that life is short, life is a mission to glorify God. It’s time to fully live for Jesus, and speak truth in boldness like Charlie. I truly love him, he helped transform my heart from stone to flesh. I spent so much time listening to him, getting to know him. This pain is weighing heavy, he is such a pure light, someone who’s very rare to find. I’m so blessed to have listened to him during my life, thank You God for putting him in our lives. Mission well served. Rip faithful servant.” unknown
So personally I don’t feel the need to try to prognosticate who goes to Heaven or not in general… by the fruit it is obvious with some and not with others, as in this case right
Ah yes does it not glorify satan instead of Jesus when at this critical hour in HIS-story we have fightings within….
Instead of simply obeying our LORD who is God and has everything under His Almighty control? Right
“From whence come wars and fightings among you? come they not hence, even of your lusts that war in your members?” James 4:1
The way I see this is …..The fact that “Christians” are idolizing him doesn’t change the facts though right
That is not his fault.
He seemed to be very humble actually and didn’t seek to unduly draw attn to himself
And that’s the consistent testimony of others who knew him
We know him by his own fruit right, not the fruit of those who sinfully seeking to elevate him “above that which is written of men” right 2 Cor 4:6
Matthew 24:14 we are His ambassadors to preach His glorious Gospel and leave the God things to God right 😉
This headline is a lie: “TRANS Radicalism Responsible For Charlie Kirk’s Death.” That’s an intentional misdirection. The evil doers, satan’s children, who authored and perpetrated the “trans radicalism” to destroy the world, are the ones who murdered Charlie Kirk. Kirk had the God-given right to freedom of speech. I did not agree with some things he has said and have published those concerns. But Jesus and His apostles never forwarded the Gospel message by violence, by murdering those who differed.
“Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.” John 18:36
What was done to Charlie Kirk was the same thing John Calvin did in Geneva, Switzerland to over 60 people who disagreed with him.
“the devil … He was a murderer from the beginning”
“Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.” John 8:44
MESSAGE FROM SINNER CONCERNING CHARLIE KIRK:
“But still your God does nothing.. it didn’t even stop a person in his best interests from being killed?? Either God is weak and the devil is in control or none of them exist. The more likely observation is, that they don’t exist.”
REPLY:
Friend, sinner, if God didn’t exist, neither would you. You sound like the darkened souls who stood at the foot of the cross when Jesus was dying for their sins, our sins….. they taunted “And the people stood beholding. And the rulers also with them derided him, saying, He saved others; let him save himself, if he be Christ, the chosen of God.” (Luke 23:35) He ultimate victory would come from His death, which of necessity had to precede His burial and resurrection. Jesus is alive. This is the victory that God ordained and at times He allows His people also to die a natural death and out of it His triumph comes. God sees all of your sins and will save, will forgive all your sins if you will heed His simple message to repent and believe upon Christ. Your life will never be right, your heart will never be happy until you do so. I am living proof of that! Jesus is coming.
“For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened (made alive thereafter, raised up, resurrected) by the Spirit:” 1 Peter 3:18
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The LORD is Holy and will not share His glory with any other.
“I am the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images.” Isaiah 42:8
Your favorite pastor, evangelist or teacher among men is “at his best state … altogether vanity” (Psalms 39:5). God be thanked for the life of every true servant elder and yet they are mere men. God did not send His only begotten Son to die and be buried and raised again to make you a good church member or fan of a mere man who is supposed to be a servant leader. Jesus came to take away our sins, make us new creatures so we could know Him and His Father – and serve them and not man (John 1:29; 17:3; 1 Corinthians 7:23). We are each called to “know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death” (Philippians 3:10). Let’s read the whole verse: “That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death” (Philippians 3:10).
RAVI ZACHARIAS is just another pawn of Satan whom gullible dupes clung to, they hung to his every word. He rarely even mentioned the cardinal doctrines of the Christian faith – the holiness of God, the precious blood of Jesus, the crucified life, repentance, etc.. Why did they cling to him, a mere man? They were unrepentant and therefore weren’t choosing to truly worship, seek the face of, love and obey Christ. The vacuum left by their idolatry facilitated their delusion. Then Ravi died in sin. When you love the LORD, truly, you love and devour HIS Word, daily. Read 2 Thessalonians 2:9-12.
“LORD, make me to know mine end, and the measure of my days, what it is; that I may know how frail I am. 5 Behold, thou hast made my days as an handbreadth; and mine age is as nothing before thee: verily every man at his best state is altogether vanity. Selah. 6 Surely every man walketh in a vain shew: surely they are disquieted in vain: he heapeth up riches, and knoweth not who shall gather them. 7 And now, Lord, what wait I for? MY HOPE IS IN THEE.” Psalms 39:4-7
When O When will we truly repent and genuinely follow JESUS, pouring over and hanging on HIS every Word – from Genesis to Revelation? Isn’t that why He gave us HIS Word, the Bible? (2 Timothy 3:16-17; 2 Peter 1:19-21)
“And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.” John 17:3
“But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.” 20:31
“Thus saith the LORD; Cursed be the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the LORD.” Jeremiah 17:5
The ministries of mere men are not an end in themselves.
They are called to simply teach God’s Word itself – and to get you into God’s Word daily for yourself.
Notice how the apostle Paul reveals how the disciples at Thessalonica “received the word of God.”
“For this cause also thank we God without ceasing, because, when YE RECEIVED THE WORD OF GOD which ye heard of us, ye received it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the word of God, which effectually worketh also in you that believe.” 1 Thessalonians 2:13
“Ye received the word of God – Ye received the doctrine of God, not as any thing fabricated by man, but as coming immediately from God himself, we being only his messengers to declare what he had previously revealed to us. And ye have had the fullest proof that ye have not believed in vain; for that doctrine, under the power and influence of the Holy Ghost, has worked most powerfully in you, filling you with light, life, and holiness.” Adam Clarke
They were “taught of God”, not men (1 Thessalonians 4:9).
The ministries of the servants of God are merely designed to get you to discern ….. and to get into God’s Word FOR YOURSELF – to study to show your own self approved unto God! (Acts 17:10-11)
” And the brethren immediately sent away Paul and Silas by night unto Berea: who coming thither went into the synagogue of the Jews. 11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so. Acts 17:10-11
“For this cause also thank we God without ceasing, because, when ye received the word of God which ye heard of us, ye received it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the word of God, which effectually worketh also in you that believe.” 1 Thessalonians 2:13
YOU do it.
“Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.” 2 Timothy 2:15
The lazy, those who don’t truly love the LORD are being eliminated as goats. This all comes on the heels of their refusal to seek God…. and study His own Word.
No, instead the idolaters of mere men will read and listen to endless messages by mere men, their favorite preachers, mere men. They then bond with those mere men, there is an unnatural soul-tie created.
“Cease ye from man, whose breath is in his nostrils: for wherein is he to be accounted of?” Isaiah 2:22
“Isaiah 2:19-22 People will seek for shelter wherever they can hide. It will be clear then that fleeting man is unworthy of trust. Only the Lord is worthy of the undivided confidence of His people.” Believer’s Bible Commentary
“Cease ye – Never admire or place your trust in man. Breath – Whose breath is quickly stopped and taken away. Wherein – What excellency is in him, considered in himself, and without dependence on God?” John Wesley
“Cease ye from man – Trust neither in him, nor in the gods that he has invented. Neither he, nor they, can either save or destroy.” Adam Clarke
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