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Persecuted for Believing God is Not Confused about His Real Word!

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BREAKING: The violent bashing continues…. NIV defenders attacking me because I believe God preserved His Word in the King James Bible – just as He promised (Psalms 12:6-7).
 
Recently, an enraged “pastor” messaged me seeking to argue Bible versions… which he brought up, not me. He initiated the conversation and got real frustrated when I simply, kindly asked him to explain why Matthew 17:21 is removed, why Romans 8:1 is chopped in half, and why the BLOOD of Jesus was removed from Colossians 1:14. He didn’t like the questions and so began attacking me and saying I will be separated with the goats and sent to hell. Who’s condemning who? He’s not a man of truth. Wow, who’s the Bible basher now?

SHOCKING 4 Verse King James Bible Comparison

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“For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.” 1 Corinthians 14:33

There’s no end to the frauds who defend this pagan wolf CS Lewis. Here’s my recent reply to one such heretic:

“Man it’s time for you to repent sinner and get into God’s Word for yourself (2 Timothy 2:15). You are biblically illiterate and clueless. Your lame defense of a known false teacher, a pagan catholic named CS Lewis, and your refusal to uphold God’s written Word as the final divine authority, is clear proof that you are not saved (John 8:47; 2 Tim 3:16-17; 2 Peter 1:19-21”

Explain this: “I have the deepest respect for Pagan myths, still more for myths in the Holy Scriptures” (PP, p.71). CS Lewis”

Recently, during a conversation, as I was confronting demonic heretic C.S. Lewis, the man who was being corrected, in the middle of our conversation, asked “Are you a King James only” person? He said “You come across as a King James person.” I lovingly affirmed boldly that “yes I do exclusively read the the King James Bible and for good reason.” Then I attempted to get right back to the original topic this man and I were discussing. He refused to get off the Bible version topic and proceeded to disdain me for not gullibly believing that all “bibles” are God’s Word. HE is the one who not only initiated this topic of discussion yet acting as if KJBO …… I did nothing in word or spirit to condemn him but only sought to give the answer of biblical truth on that matter…. yet he condemns me ….. I reminded him that I was merely answering the questions HE asked me.

A “Bible college” graduate many times has stated to me fatalistically and as if it’s normal and okay that “the body of Christ is so fragmented.” Yet there’s no Scripture that says that such is God’s will but rather against His stated will (Psalms 133:1; 1 Corinthians 12; Ephesians 4:3, etc.). And, where there is confusion, where is that coming from? It’s coming from the lies of the evil one who from the beginning has changed God’s words to deceive mankind and this is exactly the definition of what he’s done by having the fake news “bibles” created.

While condemning me, acting like I was the bad guy for believing God’s Word for the English people is the KJB, this guy was ousting me from fellowship. So who’s bashing who?  Wow! I did nothing to condemn him in attitude, tone, or content. T’was simply answering his inquiry. he didn’t like what was being stated so proceeded to attack (John 3:19-21). is This not even more evidence of satan working in the lives of those who foolishly use and defend his counterfeit “bibles”?

Seems to me that more pertinent than the KJBO (King James Bible Only) terminology perhaps would be KJBB = King James Bible Bashers! This group seems to be the ones perpetrating the violence.

Is there good reason to believe God gave us only 1 Bible? Yes! Does that make us freaks OR are those making such accusations pawns of the evils one?

Colossians 1:14 is the fire I like to hold their feet to. I told this man that he is defending “bibles” that have removed the very blood he claims to be washed in and asked him if he supposed himself to be a man of truth, of holy conviction.

Either we have a perfect Bible or we don’t and if not God lied to us (Psalms 12:6-7). The new version “bibles” are a mockery of God. Who’s behind them? Who was it that started all of this questioning of and adding to God’s words? (Genesis 2:17 > 3:4 and 3:1)

The basher continually claimed that all these errors meant nothing concerning our salvation. To this I replied by quoting 2 John 9, which states “Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth (continues) not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth (continues) in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.” (2 John 9)

Notice that the man mentioned above told me “You come across as a King James person.” What does that really mean? Well, does it not mean that King James Bible believers are resolute in their faith, non-compromising, men of truth? Yes, and that those who read the false “bibles” are weak, unbelieving, and compromising. Howbeit, some who read those counterfeit “bibles” are innocently misled.

Is God confused about which Bible He gave us? (1 Corinthians 14:33)

Would the “Holy, holy, holy” God of all perfection possibly sanction a “bible” His own enemy/enemies corrupted? (Isaiah 6:3; Revelation 4:8)

You will be attacked and ostracized for believing that God gave kept His own promise to give us His Word in our own language and it can only be the King James Bible and could not possibly be the perverted versions which come from the perverted manuscripts.

When you hear someone say things like “a better translation would be”, you know you are dealing with a person who does not fear the LORD, is arrogantly believing he is wiser than God, and is not trusting that the LORD kept His promise to preserve His Word (Psalms 12:6-7).

The World has been Given the Knowledge of God through His Written Word and any Corruption of that Word is from Satan

“All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for DOCTRINE, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:” 2 Timothy 3:16

So if God gave us His Word to get our “doctrine” from, then we should ask which Bible is truly God’s Word?

ANYONE else ever been bashed, persecuted by a defender of Satan’s false “bibles”?

This same man who condemned me for daring to stick with the real Word of God and reject Satan’s counterfeits told me that C.S. Lewis really opened the eyes of God’s people with his writings. More proof he is in darkness (John 3:19-21). He was emphatically acting as if we needed C.S. Lewis to know the real truth. Laughable! My instant reply was a resolute: “C.S. Lewis added nothing to Holy Scripture and what Scripture reveals which God says is ‘ALLLLLL things’ we would ever need in this life which ‘pertain unto life and godliness.'” (2 Peter 1:3-4)

This man is in the damnable state of unbelief and so is any sinful soul who puts any mere man’s writings or “ministry” above God’s Word!

WHAT happens is that when a person doesn’t take GOD at His own Word, where He tells us “all” and more we will ever need to know in this life IN HIS WRITTEN WORD, that person will be prey for the slick, heretical writers of old and now! (2 Peter 1:3-4) C.S. Lewis was one such demonic snake and so many today quote this wolf as if he were of God! Apostasy!

God gave us all we would ever need concerning knowing him right in His Word saints!

HOW could a “bible” that removes the BLOOD of Jesus from Colossians 1:14 possibly be God’s Word?

WHY would we believe a “bible” is God’s Word that chopped Romans 8:1 in half?

WHO would believe a “bible” is God’s true Word that completely removed Jesus’ words in Matthew 17:21?

UNLESS you can prove that God’s Word, the very words of our Maker, are not important, I will never cease to expose the LORD’s arch enemies for perverting HIS Word! The highest eternal price of judgment is attached to changing God’s Word. Those who tamper with the contents of God’s Word, are promised the plagues of the book of Revelation which includes the lake of fire.

“For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: 19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.” Revelation 22:18-19

To underscore the essential place God’s Word plays in the divine economy, 2 Peter 1:12-21 informs us that the written Word, the Holy Scriptures, carry gr eater divine authentication than the literal audible voice of the Father. Let the reader be quickened to pour prayerfully over this passage.

Those who defend God’s Word are coming against the one who is the ultimate author of all perversions and questioning of God’s Word – Satan (Genesis 2:17; 3:1-4, etc.).

The man mentioned earlier asked me if I was King James only. Then he proceeded to take me to task and tell me that he and his wife had been to Bible College in his wife new Greek and Hebrew. I asked him what that had to do with anything and if he knew that Hebrew and Greek were dead languages. I asked him if God gave us HIS Word in our own language as He promised to do in Psalms 12:6-7. He didn’t use any Scripture but rather he used much human reasoning to justify, to crassly overlook the gross atrocities and corruptions of God’s Word discounting that God’s word even matters. He revealed himself to be anything but a man of truth and holy conviction.

INSTEAD of boasting of going to seminary or Bible college, they should be denouncing it!

A lot of people think you are going to go away or fade back when they say “oh I’ve been to seminary/Bible college.” Well, I have been to 2 of them and had to denounce it all just like the apostle Paul did. Read Philippians 3. Oh, and those who attempt to lord if over you like to throw in how they have studied Greek and Hebrew. Really? Pull their rug by asking them if they speak or write Hebrew or Greek? Game over! The Lure and Peril of Titles and Taintings!

Apostasy!

Jesus told us that “EVERY word of God” fully matters and that the Word of God is exactly where we get, discover, where we receive, we learn the knowledge of God.

“But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by EVERY WORD that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.” Matthew 4:4

“And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.” Luke 4:4

EVERY WORD OF GOD is pure: he is a shield (protector) unto them that put their trust in him.” Proverbs 30:5

In this verse above, “pure” means purified, tried, perfectly stated and placed.

“Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.” John 5:39

The Root

WHAT’s the real issue? Am I the wicked one for believing God kept His promise to preserve His Word for us? (Psalms 12:6-7) OR, are the dissenters backslidden and lukewarm and therefore refuse to “endure sound doctrine”? (2 Timothy 4:2-4)

Is the real issue that KJBO folks are crazy for believing God actually kept His promise to the English speaking people which is fulfilled in the King James Bible?  OR, are the attackers who seek to polarize the unsuspecting doing the work of the devil – which is to change, question, and pervert God’s words?

“For ye have perverted the words of the living God.” Jeremiah 23:36

DID or DID NOT God give us His Word in our language? Yes He did, just as He promised in Psalms 12:6-7.

“The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. 7 Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.” Psalms 12:6-7
FLASH POINT: Most books whose covers have words “Holy Bible” on them are not God’s Word, never were, and anything but holy.

IF you believe the demonic notion that somehow God Almighty dropped the ball and didn’t follow all the way through with giving this generation His very Word, you are a Bible agnostic. You are calling God a liar (Psalms 12:6-7). Bible Agnostics Exposed

Please tell us why you insist upon defending the works of Satan in the name of the LORD? How can you sit there and defend that which removes the very blood of Christ you claim to be washed in? Colossians 1:14

To say this matter of the very words of God doesn’t matter is to clearly prove you are not right with God.

Please Defend Your New “bible” Version HERE 

SO MANY people who are opening their ignorant mouths about topics they have no clue about which God’s Word tell us is folly, foolishness – Proverbs 18:13). Some are seminarian graduates who claim to have done “many years of research” and don’t know the first thing about this topic of the real and the many counterfeit “bibles.” UNREAL!

SATAN, the original perverter of God’s Word (Genesis 2:17; 3:1, 4) has filled the professing apostate modern church world fake “bibles.” New “bibles” is absolute apostasy. God’s Word was already perfect in the King James Bible and a fulfillment of the prophecy of Psalms 12:6-7. CLUE: 99% of the dupes many call “pastor” do not use the King James Bible but rather some cheap substitute. There it is – the recipe for apostasy.
 
ATTENTION: If you haven’t compared the following 4 verses between the KJB and at least one of the modern “bibles”, please don’t shoot your mouth off lest you be rebuked openly and severely:
 
Please explain why the new “bible” you are reading and defending ….
 
1. Removed the words of Jesus in Matthew 17:21 (because Satan didn’t want today’s believers to know how to cast him out!)…
2. Romans 8:1 was chopped in half, and …
3. The BLOOD of Jesus was removed from Colossians 1:14…. 4. The plainest verse in all the Bible conveying the Godhead was completely neutered 1 John 5:7 ….
 
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Apostasy

DOES THE BIBLE SAY TO PRAY FOR FALSE TEACHERS? The Answer May Surprise You.

DOES THE BIBLE SAY TO PRAY FOR OR DOES IT MANDATE THAT WE EXPOSE FALSE TEACHERS?

No, it’s not a sin to pray for the deceived. Yet, isn’t it time we obeying the command of God and stopped giving aid and comfort to the enemies of the LORD and cease caring for them more than the many they are deceiving?

A DIVINE COMMAND: “Now I beseech you, brethren, MARK THEM which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them. 18 For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.” Romans 16:17-18

Wolf worshippers are first and foremost self-worshipping counterfeits who could care less how many souls their celebrity wolf is leading to hell. All they care about is the sensual thrill they feel in worshipping their demon-possessed false prophet who tells them what they like to hear!

NEVER apologize for exposing false teachings and false teachers. You do such in obedience to the LORD and it results in the protection of the Great Shepherd’s sheep for whom He died (Matthew 10; Hebrews 13:20).

Did Jesus or His apostles ever pray for a wolf? No.

To the false leaders of his day, Jesus says this:

“Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers (snakes), how can ye escape the damnation of hell?” Matthew 23:33

Do nothing to “bid God speed” to the enemies of the LORD lest you be judged with those enemies of God (2 John 10-11). Bidding God speed means to condone, to support, or in any way to further the cause of the enemies of God, namely human agents who are teaching contrary to the Scripture.

So he’s not calling out the wolves and you still sit under that devil? You want to go to hell with him? (2 John 10-11) Repent and run now! (Matthew 7:15; 24:11; Romans 16:17-18; Jude 3, etc.)

Of the false teachers at Galatia, Paul says he wishes they, the false prophets, were “cut off.” Make not mistake, this is violent language.

“I would they were even cut off which trouble you.” Galatians 5:12

To “cut off” means to castrate, to mutilate, to amputate and so Paul is either saying that his God fearing desire is for false teachers to be castrated or taken out completely. There’s no getting around this appropriately violent language. It’s fitting for this situation because the eternal souls of men, the sheep of Christ’s pasture are at stake.

Many self-deceived people today have more compassion for Satan’s hell bound false leaders than they do for the beloved sheep who are being being misled by those wolves in sheep’s clothing! Repent now.

Beware of misplaced compassion. Compassion without discernment, compassion while ignorant, is dangerous.

The the false prophet Elymas, the apostle says:

“And said, O full of all subtilty and all mischief, thou child of the devil, thou enemy of all righteousness, wilt thou not cease to pervert the right ways of the Lord?” Acts 13:10 

Can anyone find in this Acts 13 text where Christ’s apostle Paul pray for this Elymas, this named false prophet? I’m sorry, perhaps I missed something here.

There seems to be no end to the novices, perhaps well meaning, who argue out of their own ignorance to defend wolves who are devouring Jesus’ sheep. They come off as if they are highly superior in approaching, dealing with wolves with “love” and accuse those who expose as not doing so. Let’s take a look at who’s walking in true love, and who isn’t.

“Open rebuke is better than secret (hidden, concealed) love. 6 Faithful are the wounds of a friend; but the kisses of an enemy are deceitful.” Proverbs 27:5-6 

Hebrew word for “secret” …..

סָתַר
sâthar
saw-thar’
A primitive root; to hide (by covering), literally or figuratively: – be absent, keep close, conceal, hide (self), (keep) secret, X surely.

As you will see below, it seems accurate to observe that we’ve never seen “love” like the love of prey for the wolf that’s tickled their ears and told them what their unrepentant hearts wish to hear (Isaiah 30:9-10; 2 Timothy 4:2-4).

Most wolf protecting enemies of Christ simply don’t know and don’t want to know what God says about this topic. They are under the control of Satan himself, covering for his agents and will be judged with them (2 John 10-11). God doesn’t like cowards (1 Corinthians 16:13; Revelation 21:8). The “fearful” are the first class listed as going to the lake of fire.

Those who defend Jesus’ enemy’s will be judged, damned with them (2 Pet 2:1-3; 2 Jn 10-11).

TYPICAL DEFENSE OF A WOLF BY HIS PREY:

“But wait, he’s led many thousands to the Lord!”

REPLY:

Jesus saves all by Himself, even using wolves at times. That is a front, intentionally taught to you by the wolf to cover, to keep himself from being detected, like sheep’s clothing (Matthew 7:15). After witnessing the “ministry” of this false teacher for years, I highly doubt most of those people truly were saved. He doesn’t even speak of the chasm their sin has caused so how can they truly be convicted and repent? They can’t in most cases. Luke 13:3…. If God truly did save some of them, it was in spite of White, not because of him.

MESSAGE RECEIVED:

“I do applaud your zeal for truth! I personally just think it is wise exercising prudence about knowing the hearts of men or women, only God knows. He will separate the wheat from the chaff.”

REPLY:

Jesus commanded us to “KNOW (Gr. discern) by their fruits” and told us that “out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks.” (Matthew 15-16, 20; 12:34) ALL men are known by the fruit of what they teach – either sound or false doctrine (Titus 2:1). Why would the Son of God told us to “KNOW” people by the fruit of their lives if He didn’t want us to discern, to “Judge righteous judgment”? (John 7:24)

God knows all men’s hearts yes and yet GOD commanded us to know people also. How? Jesus says to “know (discern) them BY THEIR FRUITS” and thereby we know that anyone teaching “another gospel” is “accursed” and is the very enemy of Christ and to be “earnestly” contended against and marked, scoped out and identified – so as to protect the body of Christ (Matthew 7:16, 20; Romans 16:17-18; Galatians 1:6-9; 2 Peter 2:1-3; Jude 3-4).

HOW DID JESUS tell us to know/discern others? The FRUIT of their lives (Matt 7:16,20) THE FACT that JESUS told us to “know” (discern) people means He wants us to do so! (Matt 7:16,20) Same chapter as “judge not” v1-5 When Jesus taught us to “judge not” He is speaking in that context of hypocritical judgment and wrongly assigned condemnation. The JUDGE has spoken in a book called THE BIBLE. He’s calling us to pay attention when we read it. His written WORD records for us HIS judgments – the judgments of the Judge. So when a man preaches the Word, he is preaching GOD’s judgments, warnings, and not his own.

MESSAGE TO ME FROM A MAN ATTEMPTING TO CURTAIL THE MARKING OF A KNOWN WOLF:

“Dear Lord Jesus Please show Todd White your Holy Truth. May Todd White find peace and assurance in your wisdom and may he become a light upon a hill guiding others to Christ. Help him to leave behind his old self and ignite in him a desire to unashamedly make known Your Truth and disown and depart from the untruths he has held onto. In Jesus Mighty name we ask, Amen. Matthew chapter 5 verse 44’ But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;”

REPLY:

Can you give chapters and verses where Jesus or His holy apostles specifically prayed for a wolf? Ever read Matthew 23?

Interesting that you seem to hate all those precious many souls Todd White is misleading. Interesting. Why don’t all those precious souls matter to you? If you aren’t defending Todd White, why do you seem to care more for him than those many people he’s misleading?

How intense was Jesus’ apostle Paul about protecting Christ’s flock?

“For I have not shunned to declare unto you all the counsel of God. 28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood. 29 For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock. 30 Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them. 31 Therefore watch, and remember, that by the space of three years I ceased not to warn every one night and day with tears.” Acts 20:27-31

In Matthew 5:38-45 Christ is speaking of not retaliating against OUR enemies. Jesus is speaking of how we are to react to OUR ENEMIES, not HIS enemies in Matt 5:44. HIS enemies in specific are those who are misleading HIS people, the sheep for which HE bled to save on that cross. You are misguided and taking Scripture out of context. What did He mandate that His disciple do?

“Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints. 4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.” Jude 3-4

GOD TOLD YOU TO “MARK THEM” – WOLVES – AND NOT DEFEND THEM! (ROMANS 16:17-18) YOU GOING TO OBEY GOD OR REBEL?

“Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them. 18 For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.” Romans 16:17-18

Todd White is being marked, scoped out (Gr. skopeo) and named, identified as an enemy of Christ, a wolf in sheep’s clothing (Matt 7:15) so His people can be aware and escape being deceived…. no different than warning your children not to go near the street. Danger.

MESSAGE FROM WOLF JUSTIFIER:

“I believe we can still learn from (false) preachers and pastors biblical teaching, but we must test the spirits. Bring what is taught back to the word. Paul Washer, MacArthur, Spurgeon all preachers. Even today’s motivational speakers. I use what the Holy Spirit blessed me with, discernment, knowledge, wisdom.”

REPLY:

Good morning. Yes and yet, the LORD mandates that we separate ourselves from His enemies who pose as His ministers yet Paul says they are actually the ministers of Satan (2 Cor 11:12-15). Jude 3; Rom 16:17-18 …. we know all men, beginning with ourselves by the fruit…. false doctrine is bad fruit which means the root and tree is cursed. Matt 7:15-21; 12:33

Mat 12:33 Either make the tree good, and his fruit good; or else make the tree corrupt, and his fruit corrupt: for the tree is known by his fruit.

Paul Washer, MacArthur, Spurgeon are all calvinist heretics. Everything they say, teach is poisoned with this calvinistic system, a doctrine of devils.

The Holy Spirit blessed you with the Word and so why do you need to even listen to known false teachers? Why would you? (2 Timothy 3:16-17; 2 Peter 1:19-21, etc.)

How would you feel if your own husband communed with a sworn enemy of yours? How does Jesus feel by what you’ve just said?

SETTING THE BIBLICAL RECORD STRAIGHT

Jesus commanded HIS people to “JUDGE righteous judgment” (John 7:24) And, He commanded us to know/discern others “BY THEIR FRUITS” and that’s exactly what we’re doing under the command of KING JESUS (Matthew 7:16, 20). Dare you interfere with HIS work and become His enemy? You are bidding Godspeed to evil doers, satan’s wolves in sheep’s clothing, and you will be judged with those enemies of Christ if you don’t repent (2 John 10-11).

Jesus and each of His apostles on record in the New Testament canon warned the flock of wolves who would devour! There is no instance where they prayed for an enemy of Christ, a wolf who was misleading the flock of God.

Here is the list of the 8 evil doers the great apostle was divinely inspired to justifiably identify by name in 2 Timothy – in order to protect God’s people:

1) Phygellus 1:15

2) Hermogenes 1:15

3) Hymenaeus 2:17

4) Philetus 2:17

5) Jannes 3:8

6) Jambres 3:8

7) Demas 4:10 (apostate)

8) Alexander the coppersmith 4:14

Read the book of 2 Timothy and underline these deceivers that the apostle was marking.

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Apostasy

Spiritual Formation—A Dangerous Substitute for the Life of Christ [podcast]


Sometimes we think of spiritual formation as formation by the Holy Spirit. Once again. That’s essential. . . . But now I have to say something that may be challenging for you to think about: Spiritual formation is not all by the Holy Spirit. . . . We have to recognize that spiritual formation in us is something that is also done to us by those around us, by ourselves, and by activities which we voluntarily undertake . . .There has to be method.1—Dallas Willard

Aside from the fact that Spiritual Formation incorporates mystical practices into its infrastructure (remove the contemplative aspect and you don’t have “Spiritual Formation” anymore), Spiritual Formation is a works-based substitute for biblical Christianity. Let us explain.

When one becomes born again (“that if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved” (Romans 10:9-10), having given his or her life and heart over to Christ as Savior, Jesus Christ says He will come in and live in that surrendered heart:

Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me. (Revelation 3:20)

To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory: (Colossians 1:27)

If the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you. (Romans 8:11; emphasis added)

When God, through Jesus Christ, is living in us, He begins to do a transforming work in our hearts (2 Corinthians 3:18). Not only does He change us, He also communes with us. In other words, we have fellowship with Him, and He promises never to leave or forsake us (Hebrews 13:5).

This life of God in the believer’s heart is not something we need to conjure up through meditative practices. But if a person does not have this relationship with the Lord, he may seek out ways to feel close to God. This is where Spiritual Formation comes into play. Rather than a surrendered life to Christ (through repentance and faith), the seeking person begins practicing the spiritual disciplines (e.g., prayer, fasting, good works, etc.) with the promise that if he practices these disciplines, he will become more Christ-like.

But merely doing these acts fails to make one feel close to God—something is still missing. And thus, he begins practicing the discipline of silence (or solitude), and now in these altered states of silence, he finally feels connected to God. He now feels complete. What he does not understand is that he has substituted the indwelling of Christ in his heart for a works-based methodology that endangers his spiritual life. Dangerous because these mystical experiences he now engages in appear to be good because they make him feel close to God, but in reality he is being drawn into demonic realms no different than what happens to someone who is practicing transcendental meditation or eastern meditation. Even mystics themselves acknowledge that the contemplative realm is no different than the realm reached by occultists. To understand this more fully, please read Ray Yungen’s book A Time of Departing.

Bottom line, it is not possible to be truly Christ-like without having Christ inside of us because it is His righteousness that is able to change our hearts—we cannot do it without Him. It is His righteousness we need:

Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe. (Romans 3:22)

And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith. (Philippians 3:9)

It is interesting to note that virtually every contemplative teacher has a common theme—they feel dry and empty and want to go “deeper” with God or “become more intimate” with God. But if we have Christ living in us, how can we go any deeper than that? How can we become more intimate than that? And if going deeper and becoming intimate were so important, why is it that none of the disciples or Jesus Himself ever told us to do this? As Larry DeBruyn states:

Why are Christians seeking a divine presence that Jesus promised would abundantly flow in them? . . . Why do they need another voice, another visitation, or another vision? Why are some people unthankfully desirous of “something more” than what God has already given to us? Why is it that some Christians, in the depth of their souls, are not seemingly at rest?2

Is There a “Good” Spiritual Formation?

One of the most common arguments we hear defending Spiritual Formation is that there is a “good” Spiritual Formation done without contemplative prayer. To that we say, we have never yet seen a Spiritual Formation program in a school or a church that doesn’t in some way point people to the contemplative mystics. It might be indirectly, but in every case, if you follow the trail, it will lead you right into the arms of Richard Foster, Dallas Willard, and other contemplative teachers.

Think about this common scenario: A Christian college decides to begin a Spiritual Formation course. The instructor has heard some negative things about Richard Foster, Henri Nouwen, and Brennan Manning, and he figures he will teach the class “good Spiritual Formation” and leave those teachers completely out. But he’s going to need a textbook. He turns to a respected institution, Dallas Theological Seminary, and finds a book written by Paul Pettit, Professor in Pastoral and Education Ministries. The book is titled Foundations of Spiritual Formation. The instructor who has found this book to use in his own class may never mention Richard Foster or Dallas Willard, but the textbook he is using does. Within the pages of Pettit’s book is Richard Foster, Philip Yancey, N.T. Wright, Dallas Willard, Thomas Aquinas, Lectio Divina, Ayn Rand, Parker Palmer, Eugene Peterson, J.P. Moreland, Klaus Issler, Bruce Demarerst, Jim Burns, Kenneth Boa and Brother Lawrence’s “practicing God’s presence.” You may not have heard of all these names, but they are all associated with the mystical contemplative prayer movement and the emerging church.

Another example of this is Donald Whitney’s book Spiritual Disciplines for the Christian Life. Whitney is former Associate Professor at The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary and currently at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary. While his book does not promote contemplative mysticism, he says that Richard Foster has “done much good”3 in the area of Christian spirituality (which we believe is blatantly untrue).

Our point is that even if there is a sincere attempt to teach Spiritual Formation and stay away from the mystical side, we contend that it cannot be successfully accomplished because it will always lead back to the ones who have brought it to the church in the first place.

Spiritual formation is sweeping throughout Christianity today. It’s no wonder when the majority of Christian leaders have either endorsed the movement or given it a silent pass. For instance, in Chuck Swindoll’s book So You Want to Be Like Christ: 8 Essential Disciplines to Get You There, Swindoll favorably quotes Richard Foster and Dallas Willard. Swindoll calls Celebration of Discipline a “meaningful work”4 and Willard’s book The Spirit of the Disciplines “excellent work.”5 In chapter three, ”Silence and Solitude,” Swindoll talks about “digging for secrets . . . that will deepen our intimacy with God.”6 Quoting the contemplative poster-verse Psalm 46:10, “Be still, and know that I am God,” Swindoll says the verse is a call to the “discipline of silence.”7 As other contemplative proponents have done, he has taken this verse very much out of context.

Roger Oakland sums it up:

The Spiritual Formation movement . . . teaches people that this is how they can become more intimate with God and truly hear His voice. Even Christian leaders with longstanding reputations of teaching God’s word seem to be succumbing. . . .

We are reconciled to God only through his “death” (the atonement for sin), and we are presented “holy and unblameable and unreproveable” when we belong to Him through rebirth. It has nothing to do with works, rituals, or mystical experiences. It is Christ’s life in the converted believer that transforms him.8

“For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.” Romans 5:10

What Christians need is not a method or program or ritual or practice that will supposedly connect them to God. What we need is to be “in Christ” (1 Corinthians 1:30) and Christ in us. And He has promised His Spirit “will guide [us] into all truth” (John 16:13).

“But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption:” 1 Corinthians 1:30

In Colossians 1:9, the apostle Paul tells the saints that he was praying for them that they “might be filled with the knowledge of his will in all wisdom and spiritual understanding.” He was praying that they would have discernment (“spiritual understanding”). He said that God, the Father, has made us “partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light” (vs 12) and had “delivered us from the power of darkness [i.e., power of deception]” (vs. 13). But what was the key to having this wisdom and spiritual understanding and being delivered from the power of darkness? Paul tells us in that same chapter. He calls it “the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints” (vs. 26). What is that mystery? Verse 27 says: “To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory” (emphasis added).

For those wanting to get involved with the Spiritual Formation movement (i.e., contemplative, spiritual direction), consider the “direction” you will actually be going.

And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled in the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight: If ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel. (Colossians 1:21-23)

Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. For in him dwelleth all the fullness of the Godhead bodily. And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power. (Colossians 2: 8-10)

This article is an extract from the Lighthouse Trails booklet, Is Your Church Doing Spiritual Formation? (Important Reasons Why They Shouldn’t). To order this booklet, click here.

Endnotes:
1. Dallas Willard, “Spiritual Formation: What it is, and How it is Done” (https://dwillard.org/resources/articles/spiritual-formation-what-it-is-and-how-it-is-done).

2. Larry DeBruyn, “God’s Present of His Presence” (https://www.guardinghisflock.org/gods-present-of-his-presence/ ).

3. Donald Whitney, “Doctrine and Devotion: A Reunion Devoutly to be Desired” (http://web.archive.org/web/20080828052145/http://biblicalspirituality.org/devotion.html).

4. Chuck Swindoll, So You Want to Be Like Christ: 8 Essential Disciplines to Get You There (Nashville, TN:W Publishing Group, a div. of Thomas Nelson, 2005), p. 15.

5. Ibid., p. 13.

6. Ibid., p. 55.

7. Ibid.

8. Roger Oakland, Faith Undone (Eureka, MT: Lighthouse Trails Publishing, 2007), pp. 91-92.

This has been an extract from our booklet Is Your Church Doing Spiritual Formation? (Important Reasons Why It Shouldn’t). To order this booklet, click here.

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“According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:” Ephesians 1:4

Holiness comes by the Savior in self denial (death and burial – the cross), not by self will or effort. Surrender is the cross – “NOT my will but thine be done” (Lk. 22:42) and “Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit” (Luke 23:46). We surrender to Christ by saying “Not my will but thine be done” dear Lord, by Your grace and the deliberate act of my own will I submit to the cross, the crucified life – where You alone reign supreme in this vessel (Luke 22:42; Galatians 2:20, etc.).  I love You LORD Jesus! You must increase but I must decrease! (John 3:30)

Holiness, not happiness, is the divine command, the chief purpose and end of Christ’s salvation.

Of holiness, one disciple writes:

“Holiness speaks more to nature than it does conduct. Good conduct is the spontaneous byproduct of the new nature of the new creation man thru the cross and death to the old nature. We are new creatures in Christ (2 Cor. 5:17-18). To preach holiness as conduct without the new nature thru the cross understanding is legalism. Holiness is actually derived from ‘wholeness’ meaning the thorough transformation of the whole tripartite man (1 Thess 5:23).  So many of these ‘holiness’ preachers are preaching nothing but conduct under law. Law arouses sinful passions and causes sin to increase and was given in order to provoke transgressions (Rom 7:5; 5:20; Gal 3:21). They are enemies of the cross!”

Holiness comes by way of the cross, not by way of the flesh. Just as sin was conquered by the cross of Christ, so sin in the life of the saint is conquered by the daily cross – the crucified life (Luke 9:23-24; Romans 6; Galatians 2:20; Colossians 3:3, etc.). It’s time to stop trying harder and to simply die deeper.

NOTICE: When a believer or group of believers backslides, they no longer separate from the transgressors who are unrepentant:

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“It is reported commonly that there is fornication among you, and such fornication as is not so much as named among the Gentiles, that one should have (Gr. possessed and wouldn’t repent) his father’s wife. 2 And ye are puffed up, and have not rather mourned, that he that hath done this deed might be taken away from among you.” 1 Corinthians 5:1-2

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