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Is Going to Church Essential? [podcast]
Does Going to a “Church” Building on Sunday Mornings Constitute True “Fellowship”?
Recently, someone posted the following meme. Take a look and then see my comments below the meme. I added the things that are in yellow and red.
“Man, are we the only ones that understand this. I’ve experienced the condemnation from other believers because I don’t go to church. I’ve literally tried, but I’m afraid it’s just that bad. The condition of the Church is that far gone. I know not all churches are like this. There are some good ones but I don’t live around any of them.” Jeff Thomas
“Ye are God’s building.” 1 Corinthians 3:9
WE are the church, the called out ones, is a better way of putting it. The “house” of the LORD has a much larger meaning than a designed “church” building, so called, usually run by wolves. The “house of the LORD” can refer to the presence of the LORD, not a physical meeting place.
“One thing have I desired of the LORD, that will I seek after; that I may dwell in the house of the LORD all the days of my life, to behold the beauty of the LORD, and to enquire in his temple.” Psalms 27:4
In Psalm 27, there is no mention of other people or a certain dwelling place other than it’s the LORD David sought.
Seems like from the next verse that in the whole of God’s creation, He can and should be worshipped:
“God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands;” Acts 17:24
“What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? 20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God’s.” 1 Corinthians 6:19-20
The proof is in the fruit. WHAT has the modern “church” so called produced other than a generation of self-serving counterfeits, just as the Holy Ghost foretold in 2 Timothy 3:1-7. One born again saint put it this way:
“Refusing to sit under the false gospel, false doctrines, false teachers and wolves; is not forsaking the assembly.”
If the modern church is of God, is fulfilling God’s will, why is the fruit rotten?
- Where is the message, the word, the divine command to “repent” ever heard in the modern church? Nearly never, right? Yet it is the first word, divine command of the original Gospel first preached by John the baptist, then Jesus, then the apostles (Matthew 3:2; 4:17; Luke 13:3; Acts 2:38; 3:19; 20:21, etc.).
- Where is the message of the cross, the crucified life preached by Jesus and His holy apostles? (Luke 9:23-24; 2 Corinthians 1:9; 4:10-12; Romans 6; Galatians 2:20; 5:24; 6:14, etc.).
- Where is the evangelism? (Mark 16:15; Book of Acts, etc.)
Evidence your’ve been indoctrinated into churchianity instead of Christianity:
- If you raise your hands in “church” but not at home
- If you behave one way at church and another way at home
- If you read the Bible in church and don’t devour it at home, on a daily basis
- If you pray in church and don’t live a life of prayer daily
The most authentic, fruitful cross-bearing disciples of Jesus I know, do not attend a “church” on Sunday mornings. No, they obey Jesus by follow Him “daily.” – “And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross DAILY, and follow me. 24 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: but whosoever will lose his life for my sake, the same shall save it” (Luke 9:23-24).
Show me a Sunday morning “church” where the cross, the crucified life Jesus mandated is being taught all the time? No such thing. Case closed. False gospel. False “bibles.” False prophets.
Just because most pastors are false, in no way negates God’s mandate for each of His saints to fellowship daily with other believers (Acts 2:42-47; 5:42; Colossians 3:16; Hebrews 3:13; 10:25, etc.)!
Jon Crane writes:
“The church is also Acts 2:42-47. Where is the daily fellowship in these modern ‘church’ buildings? Where is the selling of their possessions (leadership and laity) and parting them to all men, as every man had need? Should not everything pertaining to the New Testament church be proclaimed?
Going once a week to a 501c3 state ‘church‘ to fund bigger buildings, bigger houses, luxury cars, private jets seems a bit Pharasaical.
Would I love to fellowship with true believers? Absolutely, and I do daily through social media and with a few in person. But, I will not be caught bidding godspeed to the mostly apostate church in America. 2 John 11
First repentance in the church (leadership), then perhaps God will restore the candlestick. Too many obeyed man rather than God in closing their doors, shaming Christ for fear of a virus, and showing the whole world what little faith they had and who really owned them! – the state! What Hypocrisy!
It is no wonder many did not return. Why would they seek any more help from such a place that had no real faith and obedience to man, not God who commanded His people to never cease fellowshipping!?”
Many who leave the organized apostate “church” do so, not because they are abandoning the faith but rather because they want to preserve their faith. We were told that in this last hour “evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse” and that “MANY false prophets shall arise and shall deceive MANY” (2 Timothy 3:13; Matthew 24:11). So this truth of the remnant departing from the false prophets and false gospel and the “accursed” peddlers of it, should be no surprise.
“I have witnessed this apostay in the local church for over 30 years.” Thomas Cochran
Is it a sin to go to a place of fellowship on Sundays? No. Yet such is not an essential to salvation and to make it such is to err, is to miss the point of Scripture, is to overemphasize something the LORD never emphasized. True fellowship among the brethren is what matters, not the place or physical building. Jesus preached to the 5,000 men, right? WHERE? In the desert (John 6).
It’s the wolves of the modern church who indoctrinate people to believe that THEIR little mortgaged “church building” is the divinely designated “holy” place to be on Sunday mornings. Nonsense. Sounds pretty Catholic actually.
WHERE you fellowship or WHEN you fellowship is not an essential. The biblical nature and quality of the fellowship is what matters to God. No where does the Bible dictate that true fellowship MUST take place in a certain designated official “church” building. Fellowship is what is emphasized and not the day or location. Isn’t that what Jesus made clear when speaking to the woman at the well in John 4 when the woman sought to make worship about a geographical location? Yes.
“Our fathers worshipped in this mountain; and ye say, that in Jerusalem is the place where men ought to worship. 21 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father. 22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews. 23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. 24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.” John 4:20-24
There is no stated necessity in the Scriptures to be at a certain church building on sunday mornings. Nowhere. Actually it’s the wolves who misuse Hebrews 10:25 for their own self-serving agenda while they refuse to truly teach the WORD and watch for the souls of the saints (Hebrews 13:7, 17). Therefore they do not qualify to be submitted to.
Does the Word Instruct Christ’s Disciples to Assemble? Yes.
“Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.” Hebrews 10:25
The earliest followers of Jesus didn’t wait till Sunday morning. That’s lame, right? Selah. No, they couldn’t get enough of Christ and so they gathered “daily” in the temple (Jewish and yet they were run out before long) and “house to house” (Acts 2:42-47; 5:42).
The “house” of God is the people of God, not a physical building or gathering at a certain time in a certain building.
To further develop this point, let us ask whether or not a penny was ever collected to build an official “church” building. The answer is No.
Good day saints. The Word never instructs God’s people to go to church but rather to assemble, to serve the LORD daily and to fellowship daily according to the simple biblical model, right (Hebrews 10:25)? I don’t think we could find 5 church goers who could give the Bible definition of true fellowship.
Personally, upon beginning to uncover these truths, I ceased telling anyone to go find a church, or to go to church…. and that’s due to the “MANY false prophets” we were often warned about, and most of what there is “manning” the pulpits of America’s apostate “churches,” which are more like entertainment centers, circuses with clowns conducting their so-called “services” (Matthew 24:11; 2 Timothy 3:13; 4:2-4). Of course there are still a very few who are in the truth – and use the real Bible, the King James Bible, etc. Very few. New “bibles” are all fake and the presence of such spells, equals apostasy (Revelation 22:18-19). The remnant are learning to feed themselves and those around them, worship God daily, equip the flock, and communicate the Word (Colossians 3:16). They don’t need a designated building to attend and put on a religious act. Sorry but that’s usually what it turns into. Sound like what Jesus told the false religionists of His day? Monkey see. Monkey do.
“Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.” Matthew 23:15
The authentic remnant elect of Christ do not patronize false leaders. Refusing to sit under, condone, bid Godspeed to the false gospel, false doctrines, false teachers and wolves of the modern church … is not forsaking the assembly! Instead, it’s obedience to God who mandates that we “mark them” and “earnestly contend for the faith” against them, and warns us that anyone who bids Godspeed to them will be punished with them (Romans 16:17-18; Jude 3; 2 John 2:10-11).
“But exhort one another DAILY (not weekly), while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin.” Hebrews 3:13
True elders, pastors, etc., do NOT need a certain official so-called “church” building to conduct themselves as overseers. When Peter speaks of and to overseers in 1 Peter 5:1-6, there is no mention of a designated church building. That’s because it’s all about THE CHURCH, that is, the PEOPLE of God and not meeting weekly in a certain building.
“For we are labourers together with God: ye are God’s husbandry, ye are God’s building… 16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? 17 If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.” 1 Corinthians 3:9, 16-17
PRAYER: Father, in the name of Jesus, please teach us Your way – Your Word. Establish us in You, rooted and grounded in Christ. Bless us to discern between truth and half-truth lies. Wash me clean from all my sin – at the forefront of which is pride, selfishness, self-idolatry, rebellion, and lawlessness. I love You LORD Jesus. Please have Your way in me. In Jesus’ name. Amen.
DOES the Bible tell us to “Go make disciples” OR to “Teach others God’s Word”? Interesting. Does the Bible Ever Say “Go Make Disciples”?
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