OSAS Leaders Exposed! Caught Red Handed!
Quotes from the “Eternal Security” and Calvinist Beguilers of Our Day
Might the LORD be asking the following question to many today who recognize this unconditional security teaching for what it is?
“Who will rise up for me against the evildoers? or who will stand up for me against the workers of iniquity?” Psalms 94:16
To illustrate just how widespread this unconditional eternal security teaching is, let’s look at some quotes from leaders who have influence over millions of souls.
Charles Stanley:
“As we begin our study of eternal security, we must keep two definitions very clearly in mind: Salvation—Deliverance from eternal death, and possession of eternal life. Eternal Security—That work of God, which guarantees God’s gift of salvation, once received, is possessed forever and can never be lost.
“What you believe and know about these two terms is vital to your hope and confidence as a Christian, as well as to your witness for Christ. Confusion about how you were saved leads to confusion about how a person might remain saved.” Intouch.org
With no biblical authority whatsoever, Charles Stanley says that “salvation, once received, is possessed forever and can never be lost.” So he begins with an unbiblical and therefore false premise – that one can never forfeit the gift of salvation once he has truly received it. This he says in utter contradiction to the Word of God. Then Stanley says that what a person believes about his (Stanley’s) version of unconditional eternal security is “vital to your hope and confidence as a Christian, as well as your witness for Christ.” In actuality the “once saved always saved” message clearly robs the fear of God from the hearts of men, as it did with the first man and woman, so it is error to suppose that such a security is built on a false idea. This lie led to their sin and fall. The Word says, “In the fear of the LORD is strong confidence: and his children shall have a place of refuge” (Prov. 14:26). So Charles Stanley opposes the clear message of the Bible – which states that when we fear the LORD instead of living on the false presumption that we are “eternally secure,” we have “strong confidence.” “Strong confidence” or assurance and deep peace come from fearing God and not from adopting a doctrine that gives one’s heart a false hope and false sense of security.
Stanley also writes:
“If you believe that your salvation came about by anything other than simply believing in what Jesus Christ did for you on the cross, then you believe that your salvation was in some way related to your own will and to your own works. If you believe that your salvation is related to your will and your works, then you will believe that your will and your works can in some way ‘undo’ or negate your salvation.
“On the other hand, if you believe that your salvation was based solely on what Jesus did for you and what the Holy Spirit has done in you, then you believe that your salvation was a sovereign work of God. Your part was simply to believe and receive what God provided and what God promised. The person who believes this must therefore conclude that since he did absolutely nothing to transform his old sin nature into a new spiritual nature, he cannot do anything to cause his new spiritual nature to revert to his old nature.” www.Intouch.org
Charles Stanley, in a classic Calvinistic way, supposes that one gets saved without his own will involved. This is in blatant contradiction to volumes of Scripture. He also attempts to smokescreen his false grace message by insinuating that one who believes he has the choice automatically seeks to gain salvation by his own works. Then he says that nothing one can do after being truly saved can “negate” his salvation. Jesus said sin will lead one to hell – no matter what his previous experience with God (Mk. 9:43-49). Who shall we believe, Jesus Christ or Stanley (a mere man)? Paul the apostle of Christ told us that any one of 17 specific “works of the flesh” would pre-empt one from entering the kingdom of God. In fact, he was speaking to the Galatian believers, not unsaved people, when he told them that “they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God” (Gal. 5:19-21).
On his website, Charles Stanley further states:
“…Since he (the saved person) did absolutely nothing to transform his old sin nature into a new spiritual nature, he cannot do anything to cause his new spiritual nature to revert to his old nature.”
In stark contrast, the LORD Jesus tells us:
“The fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.” Rev. 21:8
Paul told us, “For there is no respect of persons with God” (Rom. 2:11).
Also, in this excerpt from his website, Stanley continues to insert his false assumptions by speaking of “what God promised.” In this he is speaking of unconditional eternal security as if God ever “promised” that a person can live in sin, depart from Him, and still remain in His grace and be “promised” to go to His holy Heaven. An absurd and unscriptural insinuation at best!
“It is NOT lying, cheating, stealing, RAPING, murdering, or BEING UNFAITHFUL that sends people to hell.” [emphasis ours] Charles Stanley, Eternal Security: Can You Be Sure? Oliver-Nelson Books, 1990, p. 70.
“Neither do we become unsaved by acting unsaved.” Ibid., p. 71. Charles Stanley
John MacArthur:
“The point is not that God guarantees security to everyone who will say he accepts Christ, but rather that those whose faith is genuine will prove their salvation is secure by persevering to the end in the way of righteousness.” John MacArthur, The Gospel According to Jesus, 1988, (Chap. 8, p. 97)
“Yes, someone says, but can’t Christians put themselves outside God’s grace? What about those who commit ABOMINABLE SINS? Don’t they nullify the work of redemption in themselves? Don’t they forfeit the love of God? CERTAINLY NOT … it’s preposterous to think that we can forfeit it [salvation] BY ANYTHING WE DO.” [emphasis ours] John MacArthur, The Love of God, Word Publishing, 1996, p. 159
“True believers will persevere. If a person turns against Christ, it is proof that person was never saved.” John MacArthur, The Gospel According to Jesus, 1988, p. 98
MacArthur here says that a Christian can never do anything that would put him “outside God’s grace.” What saith God’s Word?
“Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.” Galatians 5:4
“Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord: Looking diligently lest any man fail of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up trouble you, and thereby many be defiled.” Hebrews 12:14-15
“Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.” Revelation 16:15
John MacArthur here shows his brazen disregard for the holiness and full-counsel of the LORD. We have already addressed how the Word tells us plainly that sin does separate us from the LORD God, who is “Holy, holy, holy” and how that sin not repented of is still on the record and testifies against that person who refused to acknowledge and turn from sin (Isa. 6:3; 55:6-7; Heb. 2:1-3). The LORD “will by no means clear the guilty” (Exod. 34:7). He says here that He will not clear the guilty without that person touching the blood of the only sacrifice He granted us – of His beloved and only begotten Son (1 John 1:9). The LORD delights to show mercy yet will only do such as there is the fear of God and authentic repentance (Exod. 34:7; Ps. 103:11).
John Ankerberg:
“But CHRISTIANS may still lose rewards in heaven. Indeed, we can only wonder what some Christians will feel like and experience on that day when they lose those heavenly rewards because of the spiritually numbing and other consequences of FORNICATION or ADULTERY while on earth. It will certainly be an infinitely poor exchange — losing eternal rewards in heaven for a few fleeting moments of sexual pleasure on earth.” [emphasis ours] The Ankerberg Theological Research Institute, News Magazine (Vol. 2, No. 6), June 1995, p. 4.
What does God’s Word state?
“Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate (feminine men), nor abusers of themselves with mankind (homosexuals), Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.” 1 Corinthians 6:9-11
Erwin W. Lutzer:
“Recently I spoke to a HOMOSEXUAL who believes he accepted Christ at the age of twenty, only to plunge into a life of WANTON IMMORALITY …. Whether or not he was a child of God during those days of heedless carnality (who of us knows for sure?), he lost fellowship with his Father.” [emphasis ours] Erwin W. Lutzer, How You Can Be Sure That You Will Spend Eternity With God, Moody Press, 1996, pp. 131, 132
See 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 above.
“But I’m convinced that those who have trusted Christ are in heaven today even if they die with the sin of murder on their conscience.” (How You Can Be Sure That You Will Spend Eternity With God, Chicago: Moody Press, 1996, p. 101)
God says:
“We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death. Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.” 1 John 3:14-15
John R. Rice:
“David committed sins of murder and ADULTERY. We must condemn his sins. They were bad. But David’s sins were under the blood of Christ, and in the fifty-first Psalm, the prayer of David shows that HE HAD NOT LOST HIS SALVATION, BUT THE JOY OF SALVATION.” [emphasis ours]. John R. Rice, Can a Saved Person Ever Be Lost?, Sword of the Lord Publishers, 1943, p. 16
The LORD says differently. Will we believe Rice or the Almighty?
“Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication…of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.” Galatians 5:19-21
Of Rice’s assertion of Psalm 51, Alan Burns writes:
“This author (White) is not reading and quoting this passage found in Ps. 51:10-12, in its entire context. A text of scripture taken out of context is a pre-text and is no text at all! He only quotes verse 12 and builds a theological pre-supposition on one verse alone, and is breaking a very important rule of interpreting Holy Scripture. I believe it is to justify this false concept of eternal security. In my opinion and in all reality, he left out the two most important verses in this chapter, which incidentally are the two previous verses–verses 10 and 11.
“‘Create in me a clean heart, O God; and renew a right spirit within me. Cast me not away from thy presence; and take not thy holy spirit from me.’ V 10, 11
“Why would David pray something this radical unless he knew he could very well lose his salvation as a result of committing his gross sins of murder and adultery? Furthermore, he knows that if God doesn’t give him a stedfast and faithful spirit; he would continue to go morally astray and then be eternally lost. (if indeed he died in that sinful condition). It just shows you that David knew and understood enough of the holiness and character of God that he feared this very thing could happen.” Pastor Alan Burns
Charles Ryrie says:
“…Sin does not cause us to lose our salvation.” Charles Ryrie, So Great Salvation, Victor Books, 1989, p. 143
The LORD says:
“And the LORD said unto Moses, Whosoever hath sinned against me, him will I blot out of my book.” Exodus 32:33
Arthur Pink
“Eternal Security is the teaching that God shall with no uncertainty bring into their eternal inheritance those who are actually justified—delivered from the curse of the law and have the righteousness of Christ reckoned to their account—and who have been begotten by the Spirit of God. And further it is the teaching that God shall do this in a way glorifying to Himself, in harmony with His nature and consistent with the teaching of Scripture concerning the nature of those who are called saints. Why is this important? Why is it important for every Christian to know that once God has taken him for His own, He will never let him go? Arthur W. Pink gives many reasons for this in this book on Eternal Security. For one thing, it is necessary in order to strengthen young and fearful Christians in their faith—by safeguarding the honor and integrity of God and His Word. And it is also necessary in order to preserve one of the grand and distinctive blessings of the Gospel, which to deny is to attack the very foundations of the believer’s comfort and assurance.” From the Foreword in the book entitled Eternal Security, by Arthur W. Pink
“The theme of this present series of articles is far more than a theological dogma or sectarian tenet: it is an essential portion of that Faith once for all delivered to the saints, concerning which we are exhorted to ‘contend earnestly’. In it is displayed, respectively, the honor and glory of the Father, of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and therefore they who repudiate this truth cast a most horrible aspersion upon the character of the triune Jehovah. The final perseverance of the saints is one of the grand and distinctive blessings proclaimed by the Gospel, being an integral part of salvation itself, and therefore any outcry against this doctrine is an attack upon the very foundations of the believer’s comfort and assurance. How can I go on my way rejoicing if there be doubts in my mind whether God will continue to deal graciously with me and complete that work which He has begun in my soul? How can I sincerely thank God for having delivered me from the wrath to come if it is quite possible I may yet be cast into Hell?” Eternal Security, Chapter 2, Arthur W. Pink
Did you note that Pink never once mentions the holiness of God, sin, the utter depravity of men, the cross, the necessity of initial and ongoing repentance, the fear of the LORD or the need to trust God fully in all things? His words are very insidiously arranged and not reconcilable with the words of our LORD and His apostles. His framing of words fits what Paul said of those who are to be marked – “by good words and fair speeches (they) deceive the hearts of the simple” (Rom. 16:17-18). In looking at Pink’s words, I scratch my head at the deceitful and superfluous polemics he uses with very little Scripture included. Pink’s words seem to be an attempt to utilize flowery speech in order to lure people into the intoxicating lie of the ages.
Following Jesus vs The False Prophets He So Often Warned Would “Deceive Many”
“And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.” Matthew 24:11
Many today, in this hour of great apostasy, rest their eternal souls on the so-called “reformers” and “church fathers.” They are no different than the pagan Roman Catholic who bases his false faith on faulty mere sinful men. In essence, those are the mere men they follow in lieu of following Christ. They relish John Calvin, Charles Spurgeon, and others, of which all combined, were given zero divine, kingdom authority. Christ is the only Rock upon which His true remnant church stands and all who have genuinely repented and are trusting Him unto eternal life live by His words alone and those which He gave His holy apostles. They never once taught OSAS or unconditional eternal security. Keep reading if you aren’t afraid of the truth.
“And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, Son of man, say unto her, Thou art the land (people) that is not cleansed, nor rained upon (shown mercy) in the day of indignation. There is a conspiracy of her prophets in the midst thereof, like a roaring lion ravening the prey; they have devoured souls; they have taken the treasure and precious things; they have made her many widows in the midst thereof. Her priests (leaders) have violated my law (Word), and have profaned mine holy things: they have put no difference between the holy and profane, neither have they showed difference between the unclean and the clean…” Ezekiel 22:23-26
Jude and 2 Peter 2-3 feature lists of historical accounts where the LORD Almighty severely judged those of and among His own covenant people who made the choice to live in sin after knowing Him. There are angels, nations, peoples and individuals included in the list of those damned to hell for their disobedience to the LORD who is holy. In the face of such clear knowledge concerning the unchanging God, some still dare teach the eternal security heresy.
Today there are frightening scores of leaders who are teaching this license-for-sin doctrine. Some of the most popular teachers today are believers in the heresy of OSAS (“once saved always saved”). Perhaps they have been made popular by the demand of the populace to hear ear tickling messages which deal only with surface issues and never probe and penetrate to the depths of the heart. Though posing as Christians, these deluded leaders are ignorant of an intimate and personal knowledge of the LORD who is holy. They are violating the Word of God by not recognizing that the LORD is “Holy, holy, holy” and making a clear division between “the holy and profane” and showing the “difference between the unclean and the clean.” See also Psalms 51:10; 139:23-24, Isaiah 6:3 and Revelation 4:8.
Sin has separated mankind from his Creator (Gen. 2-3). Our LORD Jesus came to this earth because God is holy! Yes, Christ came to the world because God is holy and cannot fellowship with sin (Gen. 6:5; Isa. 59:2; 64:6; Rom. 3:23; 6:23; Eph. 2:1-7). Without Christ man was helpless to regain his place of relationship with His Maker (Tit. 3:4-7).
Is the LORD Still Holy OR did He Change?
The LORD is “Holy, holy, holy” and man is sinful. Any man in leadership who does not hold this cardinal truth (man’s utter depravity and God’s absolute holiness) in utmost importance and prominence is thoroughly deceived at best. According to the whole record of Holy Writ, the whole reason Jesus Christ came was that we might know God and be washed from that which separated us from Him – sin. He left the glory of His Father and came “In the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight” (Col. 1:22).
Making the holiness of the LORD a light thing and therefore the sins that violate His holiness, is an extremely fatal endeavor and being perpetrated by the blind leaders who are leading many astray in this late hour (Matt. 15:14).
To illustrate the prevalence of the lie of lawlessness, one need only observe that most Bible commentaries come from proponents of this antinomian heresy and are therefore skewed across the board in their doctrines. Beware!
Personally, when I am checking out a ministry, there are a couple of initial things I look for in discerning where they are coming from. One of those things is whether or not there is an underlying belief in OSAS. If so, all their other doctrine will be amiss. Specifically concerning doctrine, the apostle Paul said “A little leaven leaveneth the whole lump” (Gal. 5:9). When someone has embraced a falsehood, their whole body of belief will be permeated with that error. The Bible imagery using leaven and bread is that it takes but a sprinkle of leaven to infuse, pervade, affect, and expand the whole loaf of bread. So, it takes but a sprinkle of falsehood to tilt or skew a person’s whole belief system.
As we see in Ezekiel 22, with all errant camps, their leaders build upon one another’s false doctrines and gain momentum doing so – “There is a conspiracy of her prophets” (Ezek. 22:25). The “conspiracy” of these false prophets is against the LORD and such is discerned by what they teach which is contrary to the biblical revelation.
Micah 3
As we see in Micah 3, so many leaders today are leading people into destruction by misrepresenting the LORD. Concerning “the prophets that make my people err” the LORD says they “hate the good, and love the evil…that abhor judgment, and pervert all equity. They build up Zion with blood, and Jerusalem with iniquity”(Micah 3:2, 5, 9, 10).
Note that these false prophets who make the people err by loving evil and hating His holiness “build up…Jerusalem with iniquity.” In other words they infuse the people of God with the justification of sin and “iniquity” and then even have the audacity to “lean upon the LORD, and say, Is not the LORD among us? none evil can come upon us”(Micah 3:11).
“There is a conspiracy of her prophets” (Ezek. 22:25). False teachers and prophets are self-driven and directed (Phil. 3:17-19). They are doing their own thing and have a natural affinity with others in their profession who are building their own kingdoms in lieu of the kingdom of God. True servants of Jesus Christ are all His – they are not purpose-driven or self-driven, but rather Holy Spirit led and obedient to the eternal Word above all else. These who live in the fear of God resolutely recognize that they have nothing good in themselves but all holy good is in Christ Jesus and His Word (Jn. 3:30; Acts 20:24; 2 Cor. 3:5; 4:5). These men, of whom the world is not worthy, are agents of the King and declare His truth relentlessly, leaving nothing out which might make them unpopular. In the fear of the LORD they have died to their own reputation among men. True men of God uncompromisingly esteem Christ as their sole and ultimate riches (Heb. 11:26). As He did with His prophet Ezekiel, the LORD is able to instruct those leaders who truly know Him as He fills their mouths with His truth (Ezek. 3:4). Take note to what the LORD says to Ezekiel:
“And he said unto me, Son of man, go, get thee unto the house of Israel, and speak with my words unto them…Moreover the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, Now, thou son of man, wilt thou judge, wilt thou judge the bloody city? yea, thou shalt show her all her abominations…” Ezekiel 3:4; 22:1-2
As all of the LORD’s prophets and apostles do, so Ezekiel exposed the sins of God’s people in obedience to Him. The people were consequently able to know where they really stood with the LORD and were given the opportunity to repent (Isa. 1:18-20; Rev. 2-3).
Those true to the LORD “show difference between the unclean and the clean…” (Ezek. 22:26). Consider the message of Ezekiel and compare it to those who lead your life. Such will reveal whether you are being led into the true way of the LORD or into the ditch of darkness by a blind leader.
“Therefore say unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Repent, and turn yourselves from your idols; and turn away your faces from all your abominations.” Ezekiel 14:6
“Therefore I will judge you, O house of Israel, every one according to his ways, saith the Lord GOD. Repent, and turn yourselves from all your transgressions; so iniquity shall not be your ruin. Cast away from you all your transgressions, whereby ye have transgressed; and make you a new heart and a new spirit: for why will ye die, O house of Israel? For I have no pleasure in the death of him that dieth, saith the Lord GOD: wherefore turn yourselves, and live ye.” Ezekiel 18:30-32
The LORD is holy and is going to judge His own people for their sins. Those true to Him warn men unceasingly to repent and be cleansed (1 Cor. 11:31-32). Those in the house of the LORD who die in sin will suffer eternal “ruin.”
Of the false shepherds of His day Jeremiah said “For ye have perverted the words of the living God” (Jer. 23:36).
While those leaders who remain true to the LORD call men to repent, counterfeit leaders refuse to. God-fearing leaders communicate His sin-exposing truth unceasingly, false teachers embrace and espouse doctrines that justify sin and downplay the holiness of the living God while claiming to glorify Him.
“For we are not as MANY, which corrupt the word of God: but as of sincerity, but as of God, in the sight of God speak we in Christ.” 2 Corinthians 2:17
As the biblical revelation makes plain, Satan is very subtle. He is evil and insidious. Those who teach people the unconditional eternal security lie (OSAS), do it subtly in most cases. To come out too quickly with something so contrary to the Scriptures, would set off an alarm in the minds of those who read their Bibles. So, such a teaching is usually rolled out gradually, perhaps in a sequence. Let’s look at this a little further.
In his booklet entitled The Eternal Security Teaching, J. L. Stauffer shows the steps utilized by the eternal security teachers to entice people to embrace this falsehood:
“Three Steps in the Eternal Security Doctrine: The eternal security teaching is presented in about three steps, occurring in logical sequence. No one who accepts the first step or presentation of the issue can avoid the other two that follow, unless he is awakened to its error. For the believer who has been reading his Bible and yet has not heard of the eternal security claims, to be approached with the full eternal security teaching at once, would be a shock that would result in their rejection. Evidently for this reason, the eternal security teaching is unfolded a step at a time. The three steps in their order of presentation to a convert to eternal security are as follows:
“If a person is truly born again by the Spirit of God, he will not want to go out into sin, carrying on in that which separates him from God (1 John 3:1-10). He is:
1. kept by God and is eternally secure.
2. If a person is truly born again by the Spirit of God, he may go out into sin, but since he is born again, God will certainly bring him to repentance again before He allows him to die.
3. If a person is truly born again by the Spirit of God, he is saved eternally, no matter how he lives and how he dies.
“Christian people who are satisfied to abide by the Word of God will have very little criticism for the first step as stated above. The man who does not want to sin and trusts in the keeping power of Christ is certainly secure. The weakness in the first step is the fact that no conditions are admitted in connection with our keeping.
“The second step is unscriptural because it throws the responsibility of the sinning saint’s recovery on the Lord. Incidents will be given later on to show that man’s free will enters in, and that God will do nothing in the salvation of sinners and the recovery of sinning saints that violates this God-bestowed attribute of personality.
The last step is the ultimate one that believers in eternal security will hold, if they are consistent with their avowed principles. Newly won converts do not get the ‘third step teaching’ in the beginning. The very thought that a saved man is secure in sin would be repelling to a new disciple. As one grows in knowledge concerning the favorite arguments of the eternal security teachers and their mode of Biblical interpretation, he becomes reconciled to the third and final form in which this doctrine manifests itself.” The Eternal Security Teaching by J. L. Stauffer, copyright 1933 by J. L. Stauffer, second edition (revised).
“For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error. While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage. For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.” 2 Peter 2:18-21
The Holy Spirit inspired Jude to write concerning those false teachers who mock at the holiness of God and are “turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness.” (Jude 3-4) He cites these wolves in sheep’s clothing for using “great swelling words” to allure and deceive their hearers with a message of “grace” that promises a home in Heaven no matter what vileness and depravity one practices after being saved. Jude also warns us what to watch for:
“These are murmurers, complainers, walking after their own lusts; and their mouth speaketh great swelling words, having men’s persons in admiration because of advantage (self-gain). But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ; How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.” Jude 16-18
PRAYER: Jesus please grant me ears to hear what Your precious Holy Spirit is saying to Your Church. Grant Your holy fear and grace to this heart to live a life void of offense toward You and others. Bless my life to bring forth fruit to Your eternal glory. In Jesus’ name, Amen.
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Mission Mexico Part 46 [podcast]

Recorded about a week ago: Much has happened since then!
Your Love for God is Changing Lives Saints!
Clara’s new rental. Brother Allan ministering in the Philippines. Many being reached daily in Mexico. And much more…..
Happening now. In progress. Talking to Clara by text right now….. delivered the rent and deposit today. | Clara’s Cry
Recently, when bringing more food to Clara and her 3 boys, food from God’s love in and through you, I noticed that her 3 boys were quite dirty and was moved. They were actually filthy. Clara is by nature a very quiet person. So I began asking her questions….. With the current rental, they have one outdoor sink with running water. That’s it. No shower. The current rental is beyond shabby for sure. Sorry, just trying to communicate facts here.
Now the good news…..
Her mother found Clara and the boys a new rental, about 50 yards from where they currently live. She gave the price and I made a counter offer, negotiated a discount. Here’s the score:
Move-in Costs: It’s going to cost $382 USD total to move in, which includes the first month’s rent and deposit. I asked the landlord to give us the remainder of September as a bonus for this rental contract and she accepted. So, Clara’s monthly rent will be $208 USD – and this includes the water and electricity (both included). Her rent has doubled, all the way up to $208 USD per month for Clara and her 3 young boys 😉 …. In my estimation, this move is also going to help Clara be less weighed down as perhaps many of us know how it feels to live in dire conditions. Having a nicer, more functioning home to live in will surely do much for her morale. Do you agree?
If anyone wish to earmark a special gift for Clara and her boys, just submit it and send me an email, letting me know your special gift is for Clara. If more than $382 is raised, it will still all go to Clara’s cause. | info@safeguardyoursoul.com
“He that hath pity upon the poor lendeth unto the LORD; and that which he hath given will he pay him again.” Proverbs 19:17
On the behalf of Christ Jesus and His beloved body, we are in Mexico to love, to equip, to support, to be a blessing to the members of our LORD’s Jesus’ body. Please allow me also to say, that it’s more than obvious that these saints in Mexico have never been loved and supported as they are now. This is all due to your love being poured out upon them in prayers and support.
The people, the saints God has put His holy finger on for us to serve, in no particular order, are as follows:
- Brother Juan
- Sister Maria
- Clara
- Brother Allan in the Philippines
If you’re going to go bananas over anything, let it be Christ. Everything else is fleeting and a waste. Read that again.
WE CERTAINLY CAN’T HELP EVERYONE AND YET WE, YOU ARE BEING THE WORLD OF HELP TO A FEW – THOSE GOD HAS DESIGNED: Wednesday was Clara’s birthday, yesterday. Because you prayed and gave, she was given food and a pastry item so they could celebrate her birthday with her boys and mother, and other family members. Remember, people here are poor.
Many eternal souls are being reached in beautiful Mexico. God is able. Thank you for your prayers for these people.
Last Night: Maria called and needed more JESUS tracts and so I brought them to her on her witnessing post. She had finished the first 2,000 she was given after the 20,000 print run recently!
Mission Mexico | Download and Read the JESUS tract here – English and Spanish available.
Keep lifting up in prayer – fruit, more fruit, much fruit (John 15). God is answering. Can nearly not keep up, praise God for HIS mercy and goodness. What is reported is but a sampling of our LORD’s work among the beautiful humble people of Mexico. More and more Mexican saints taking JESUS tracts and distributing them!
“The fruit of the righteous is a tree of life; and he that winneth souls is wise.” Proverbs 11:30
From Brother and evangelist Juan here in Mexico:
“Brother, I’ve chosen to leave some Bibles and pamphlets (JESUS tracts) at the businesses I distribute to for my job, and the customers have told me they’ve been a blessing. People come up to ask me to pray for them, and glory to God, because He gives us both the desire and the ability to do what is right. We know His Word never returns empty; it always fulfills its purpose. Amen, brother, brother.” Juan
Brother Allan and his ministry team in the Philippines are leading people to Jesus on a regular basis. God be praised that it is hard to keep up with all the evangelism success here in Mexico and also the Philippines with our brother Allan who is a fervent disciple of Jesus, a consummate soul winner (Proverbs 11:30). I’ve been blessed to know and be in fellowship with our brother for over 30 years now. He is authentic.
Here’s just one small example of what our LORD is doing in the Philippines: A few days ago a whole class full of students and the teacher received Jesus. Saints of Christ, the world is full of people who desire to hear the Gospel of our LORD Jesus and to receive Him. We are blessed to feed the Word of God to hungry souls who receive and don’t reject Christ?
“And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet. 15 Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city.” Matthew 10:14-15
You and I are blessed to stand with our brother Allan and the Philippines ministry. YOUR prayers and support are making this possible!!! God is able!
“Now unto him that is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that worketh in us,” Ephesians 3:20
Everyone is welcome to pray and support. It would be nice to increase our support soon to our brother Allan and Team Jesus in the Philippines! See Support button on safeguardyoursoul.com Let’s roll saints! Jesus is coming.
As has been shared previously…..
More and continual vehicle ministry….. rolling. If all you did was move to Mexico and passed out JESUS tracts as you drove around town, you’d be hitting home runs for Jesus daily!
Because you prayed, you cared, you gave, this beloved homeless man was fed – food, cold water, and the Gospel of Jesus! The Bible, God’s Word as much to say about feeding the poor and how God will bless those who do. Proverbs 19:17, etc.
It’s a blessing that with your prayers, love, and financial support, you are declaring that “The People of Mexico Matter for Christ – He died to save them!”
“So mightily grew the word of God and prevailed.” Acts 19:20
IF YOU WANT TO PLEASE SATAN …..
MAKE SURE you do NOT support authentic evangelistic ministries that are literally, actually getting Christ’s Gospel to the lost souls of this world.
The apostle Paul did “the work of an evangelist” and instructed us to do the same.
“Preach the word … But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.” 2 Timothy 4:2, 5
Our KING is coming saints, King JESUS!
Let’s roll beloved of God!
in Christ
todd
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“For the Son of man is come to seek and to save that which was lost.” Luke 19:10
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Apostasy
Apostasy Dialogues

“Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; 2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; 3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.” 1 Timothy 4:1-3
One disciple writes: “This modern day false church buildings are just as corrupt minded as those Roman soldiers that–“cast lots for portions of Christ’s torn garment hanging from the blood soaked cross”–making merchandise of the Lords Sufferings—Amen.”
Check this out: Scam and Scourge of the Modern Church World
“His watchmen are blind: they are all ignorant, they are all dumb dogs, they cannot bark; sleeping, lying down, loving to slumber. 11 Yea, they are greedy dogs which can never have enough, and they are shepherds that cannot understand: they all look to their own way, every one for his gain, from his quarter. 12 Come ye, say they, I will fetch wine, and we will fill ourselves with strong drink; and to morrow shall be as this day, and much more abundant.” Isaiah 56:10-12
At times, when people don’t know the Word on a certain topic, they cop out by saying things like “Well, we can’t make that call” or “Well we just don’t know.” There are the “secret things” but that does not include the things God has revealed to us in His Word (Deut. 29:29; Hosea 4:6). Let’s not be ignorant of the Word of God beloved saints.
“My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.” Hosea 4:6
HOW DID JESUS tell us to know/discern others? By the FRUIT of their lives (Matthew 7:16,20). THE FACT that JESUS told us to “know” (discern) people means He wants us to do so! (Matthew 7:16,20) Same chapter as “judge not” (verse 1-5).
Not only are believers to “discern”, we are to teach others to “discern” – to distinguish the difference between truth and error, whole truth and half-truths!:
“And they shall teach my people the difference between the holy and profane, and cause them to discern between the unclean and the clean.” Ezekiel 44:23
DID YOU know that Matthew 18:15-17 is NOT speaking about wolves? Jesus is speaking in this passage about “thy BROTHER” which is exclusive to the true body of Christ and the members thereof. Please read this passage afresh and let’s cease misusing it. Many times when Jesus’ people obey Him by exposing, marking false teachers, some will erroneously try to apply Matthew 18:15-17 which is speaking only to the body of Christ and no heretic is a member of Christ’s body. Heretics who teach a lie publicly are to be marked publicly as they are leading others astray by speaking contrary to God’s Word, (especially on an essential doctrine). Romans 16:17-18 etc.
Live Action!
Recently, a dear sister in Christ sent in this warning in order to protect Christ’s body:
“I came across your website and would like you to add Robin Bullock. He and his wife used to be country western music “stars”. Now she is a “pastor” and he is a “prophet”. I listened to him for a time. It always bothered me that they obviously did not honor Titus 1 or I Timothy 3. Now I wish to help warn others. Their is a Rumble video where he talks about cities on the Earth before man and that Satan had lived on the moon. He is one of the prophets that endorse Trump.
Also, false prophetess Kat Kerr talks about “Christmas Town” in Heaven.”
QUESTION:
“Who do you think is a sound teacher?”
REPLY:
Good question ….. Genesis to Revelation – Moses, Jesus, Paul, Peter, John and all the “holy men of God” by whom God gave us His Word (2 Peter 1:19-21). Those are the only men we should endorse!
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“You are too harsh! You seem to come across with a sledge hammer.”
REPLY:
Gospel, truth sledgehammers are God’s way: “Is not my word like as a fire? saith the LORD; and like a HAMMER that breaketh the rock in pieces?” (Jeremiah 23:29)
Perhaps you could learn some things…. right? “Open rebuke is better than secret love. 6 Faithful are the wounds of a friend; but the kisses of an enemy are deceitful.” (Prov 27:5-6) Are you rebuking when needed or are you the enemy who kisses, compromises with that which God calls sin/evil?
Soft men, soft preachers, soft preaching gets nothing done – it makes comfortable, it coddles men in their sins. No, they only perpetuate people in their sins, leading them to damnation (Isaiah 58:1; Jeremiah 23:22).
Was the message of the original Gospel always soft? Did Jesus and His holy apostles pander to the sinful sentiments and whims of sinful men? No! Read God’s Word for yourself as He commanded you to do – and cease now to be misled by the soft-peddling pansies of today’s apostate modern church world! Repent now. Follow Jesus! Then you won’t live by your sinful emotions but will rather be an authentic disciple of Jesus who loves His truth – NO MATTER WHO IT OFFENDS. But first it must offend YOU unto repentance – to drive you to real repentance and a real, a crucified walk with Jesus (Galatians 2:20). “Let God be true and EVERY man a liar.” (Romans 3:4) “You preach this Gospel JUST LIKE it’s written young man, you understand me!” “You preach this Gospel JUST LIKE it’s written young man, you understand me!”
Recently, some guy took me to task on a political post where I was preaching the Word. When asked he claimed to be born again. Then he ranted against me for preaching the Word on that forum and told me that the Bible didn’t belong there on that medium. Here was my reply:
Sir, the LORD is calling you to repent and be saved. Jesus says you are “NOT of God” because you refuse to hear His Word (John 8:47). Regrettably, you wouldn’t know the Son of God if He stood in your face. You are full of sin and self and have no hope outside of the nail scarred risen Savior and LORD. Repentance is essential and if you do get right with Him, you will never deny Christ, no matter where you are.
Recently, while seeking to shut down, hinder exposing Satan and his evil human agents, one said: “Love is the only thing that really matters. 1 Cor 13:1” My Response: “But you left out verse 6 which describes true love in contrast with false love – “Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth;” …. God’s love, when resident in a man, will expose error, heresies, doctrines of devils. If not, he has no love at all from God.
“Open rebuke is better than secret love. 6 Faithful are the wounds of a friend; but the kisses of an enemy are deceitful.” Proverbs 27:5-6
UNDER the command of the KING of kings we are on a mission to preach Christ’s original Gospel and to tell on the devil and his human agents! (Jude 3; Ephesians 5:11; Matthew 10:26; Romans 16:17-18) Let the light of divine truth expose all darkness – beginning in our own hearts!
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“I’ve been reading Philippians this morning. He says as long as Christ is being proclaimed whether in false motives or true he is rejoicing.”
REPLY:
Yes yet he also calls out “enemies of the cross of Christ” whose god is their belly – their un-crucified, self-serving carnal appetites (Philippians 3:18-19).
“What then? notwithstanding, every way, whether in pretence, or in truth, Christ is preached; and I therein do rejoice, yea, and will rejoice.” Philippians 1:18
This is in no way a justification for false leaders. ANY person can preach Christ but that doesn’t make them true. He’s dealing with motives here. We can have perfect – BIBLE – doctrine and be spiritually amiss in our own hearts.
Notice that in Philippians 1:18 they preached Christ. That would mean they preached true doctrine. It was in the wrong motive yet they preached Christ.
Without exception, every false leader will have “damnation.” (2 Peter 2:1-3) In Matthew 23 alone 3 times Jesus tells the false teacher of His day that they are going to hell.
QUESTION ASKED:
“What do you think about ‘lordship salvation”‘”
REPLY:
It depends on how you use the term “lordship salvation.” Most of the people coming against what they call “lordship salvation” are the diabolical, lawless, Christ-denying, cross-less counterfeits who espouse Satan’s system of calvinism.
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“So you don’t believe we are eternally secure?” Baptist pastor
REPLY:
Undeniably, un-conditional eternal security is the first lie Satan told to mankind which caused his fall – and he’s still telling the same lie (Gen 2:17; 3:4). Jesus taught “If a man abide (remain) not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.” (John 15:6). See also Ezek 33:12-13 and Matt 10:22; 24:13; 2 Pet 2:20-21; Heb 10:26-39, etc.). Lie of the Ages (book)
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“The church has dirty garments and is not ready to meet Jesus.”
REPLY:
At times we see people who erroneously think that Christ’s church are those in those Sunday morning buildings they call “church.” Nahhhh …. Actually, their perspective is off …. the real church, God’s people, are always ready, though they be few…. Christ’s church is not the visible apostate church world but rather individual believers who have come our from among those organizations which are long ago departed from the faith…. 1 Timothy 4:1-3
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“But no man, no leader or his doctrine is perfect.”
REPLY:
God’s Word is perfect. What a man teaches must be the perfect WORD of God or he is a false teacher, without exception. God gave us HIS written Word so there’s no excuse. “Preach the word.” (2 Timothy 4:2-4) Pretty simple. Speaking of sin and doctrine, Jesus and Paul both said that just “A little leaven leaveneth (ruins) the whole lump” (Gal 5:9). “Teach NO other doctrine.” 1 Tim 1:3……”If any man speak, let him speak as the oracles of God.” (1 Peter 4:11) “If they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.” (Isaiah 8:20) Satan’s most effective wolves in sheep’s clothing are those who speak 99% truth but that 1% of poison is all it takes to kill. You are making excuse but God’s Word never does for teaching anything except the original Gospel. In fact, anyone who preaches anything else is “accursed.” Read Gal 1:6-9. Sound Doctrine
Rose Marie Lenon Tolentino writes: “I was deceived when I was a Catholic and deceived in the ‘Christian’ faith by groups calling themselves ‘Christians,’ but in many instances their faith wasn’t biblical—according to Holy Scripture. I thank God that His Word says: ‘And ye shall seek me, and find me, when ye shall search for me with all your heart’ (Jeremiah 29:13).”
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“You mean that most pastors are going to hell? Have you not gone too far with that?”
REPLY:
Hi Sean. You seem very sincere friend…… Question: Does the Bible ever use the words “many true prophets”? No. Does the Word of God use the words “MANY false prophets (leaders)”? Yes. What do we read in 2 Tim 3:13? KJB
Message Received:
(defending Sunday morning and modern church membership) “Do not forsake the assembling of yourselves.” Crystal
Reply:
Hi Crystal …. yes we’ve addressed that passage many times (Heb. 10:24-25)…. that says nothing of going to a church building on Sundays at a certain time and this being what’s important to Christ. In fact the earliest believers met house to house daily amen … Acts 2:42-27 … they simply could not get enough of Jesus who ordered us to serve Him “daily” and not weekly … many pastors use Heb. 10:24-25 in the wrong way …. yes sun is a great day to fellowship and I do it myself and yet, we must not limit this fellowship to sun mornings … in fact, check out the “daily” aspect of Hebrews 3:13 – “But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin.” We need Jesus “daily” and not weekly. The word weekly never appears in Scripture but “daily” appears in the New Testament Scriptures 22 times. Some pastors are building a business and they want people to associate their so called church building and church business with serving God which is wrong.
Interaction with a Pastor:
Here is my response in a recent interaction with a pastor who was confronted about recommending the “5 Love Languages” psychobabble book instead of Holy Scripture. Unbelievably, this pastor replied with the typical “well they are still on the milk as babes so can’t handle the Bible. Not everyone walk where I walk.”
My Response to Him:
Men of God are called to endear men to God’s Word, period and nothing else (1 Timothy 4:6). All human reasoning must be crucified. Isaiah 8:16 – “seal the law (Word) among my disciples.” “Preach the word” 2 Timothy 4:2. The reason why people aren’t walking in the full truth as authentic disciples of Christ is for this exact reason…. Where leaders take things into their own hands instead of simply feeding people GOD’s Word……and getting them into God’s Word for themselves. We have the words “sincere milk of the word” which is what baby believers are to be fed with and endeared to (1 Peter 2:2). Sharing peripheral sources only retards that process.
“Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.” 2 Timothy 2:15
Any pastor who is not preaching the pure Word, thereby getting their audience into God’s Word for themselves, is a false pastor.
We need a revelation of the power of the Word of God and it’s infinite divine power.
When the LORD gives us this revelation through seeking Him, we will preach nothing except His Word. Colossians 3:16; 1 Timothy 4:6, 16
By divine design, the longest chapter in the Bible, right in the center of the 66, is on one topic – the written Word of God.
I want to encourage you to read this ultra important Bible chapter, praying before you begin, asking the LORD to reveal His truth to your innermost man along with His holy fear.
Todd
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“This is just another sign that He is coming soon, but first the apostasy has to come. We need to pray for all of these who are spouting false doctrine. I would not want to be in your shoes on judgement day. be blessed.”
REPLY:
Please give us all just 1 specific example where the Word of God instructs believers to pray for wolves? The burden of proof is on you…. and you won’t find 1 place in the Bible where we are told to pray for Christ’s enemies…. but you WILL find numerous places where the LORD instructs us to rebuke and expose and mark them …. YOU are on dangerous ground because you are bidding Godspeed to the enemies of Christ and if you don’t repent you will receive the same damnation as they do – 2 John 7-11; 2 Peter 2:1-3. Regrettably, you are speaking while having no biblical clue as to what you are saying and need to cease speaking out of emotions instead of biblical truth.
MESSAGE RECEIVED FROM AN ECUMENICAL CATHOLIC DEFENDER:
“Jesus preached Love not hate and division. I suggest you unfriend me then because I don’t think Jesus would say or do what you’re putting forth. There is enough hate and violence in this world and I don’t want to participate at any level. Christ Jesus is my Lord and Savior, the Only begotten and most beloved Son of the One True Living God. My relationship is with Christ and He doesn’t espouse hate but love. I’ll pray for Todd, that the Lord Christ Jesus will provide you heavenly understanding.” Douglas
REPLY:
The divine “heavenly understanding” is the written Word of God which He’s already given and which we are all personally accountable to keep and will be judged by (Psalms 119:105, 130; John 12:48; Romans 2:16; 2 Peter 1:3-4, 16-21, etc.).
To make such statements proves you have espoused a false love: Jesus says: “Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.” Matthew 10:34
Jesus DID preach division? – “Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword (division).” Matthew 10:34
To speak the LORD’s truth is loving and to refuse to is deceitful hatred:
“He that speaketh truth sheweth forth righteousness: but a false witness deceit.” Proverbs 12:17
Jesus preached a divine ultimatum – which divides mankind into just 2 kingdoms: “He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.” Mark 16:16
Jesus said: “He that is not with me ISSSS against me.” Matthew 12:30
Jesus says: “He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.” John 3:18
False love exposed by the Bible: “Open rebuke is better than secret love. 6 Faithful are the wounds of a friend; but the kisses of an enemy are deceitful.” Proverbs 27:5-6
Unity at the expense of truth is an antichrist/ecumenical lie from hell. God’s true people are unified by their knowledge of Him, being born again and based on HIS WORD, period. The written Word of God is the final authority for doctrine ad life for all who truly know the LORD (Mathew 7:21-29; 2 Timothy 2:15; 3:15-17; 2 Peter 1:3-4, 19-21, etc.).
God is not the author of unity at the expense of His truth. For example: The Catholic church is a works-based antichrist pagan cult and is plainly not part of Christ’s body (Ephesians 2:8-9). Of His beloved remnant body, concerning them being one with Him and the Father and the true body of Christ, Jesus prayed to the Father “Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth” (John 17:17). The only and non-negotiable foundation upon which the true body of Christ lives, is the written Word of God (Psalms 119; Romans 3:4; 2 Timothy 3:15-17, etc.). Christ’s true body is set apart unto Him on the basis of their love and obedience to His truth (John 8:31-32, 47).
So, big shot, you going to tell the Almighty HE can’t judge people and tell us beforehand in His written Word why He will do such? Delusional. 18 times in Psalm 119 alone the LORD calls His written Word His “JUDGMENTS.” His “judgments” – words – warn us to be forgiven so we won’t be judged.
WHO is “OF GOD” and who is “NOT of God”? – Jesus says: “He that is of God heareth God’s words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.” John 8:47
Those who don’t come into and remain in the sound doctrine of God’s Word, are hell bound, sure as you read these words:
“For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
2Jn 1:8 Look to yourselves, that we lose not those things which we have wrought, but that we receive a full reward.
2Jn 1:9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.
2Jn 1:10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:” 2 John 7-11
Jesus says “JUDGE righteous judgment.” (John 7:24)
Douglas, speaking CHRIST’s truth is not unloving. What you are doing is unloving – because you are still full of self and therefore operating according to your self-serving emotions and not love at all. “God is love” not you and HE alone defines what love is. Read 1 John 4:7-8. You do not hear God’s Word when it’s presented to you but instead put your own tradition and futile thinking/doctrines in place of His Word – just like the hell bound religionists of Jesus’ day (Mark 7:6-10). You do this because you do not know Him. John 8:47 At this point you are an antichrist, a counterfeit and don’t yet see it Douglas. God is calling you to truly repent and when you do, He will save you and HIS Word will be the final authority of your life.
You are acting as if God didn’t leave us HIS WORD which is a denial of Christ. He has already given us His judgments. It will be too late when He comes to judge us for how we lived. Jesus, the JUDGE, says – “He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.” (John 12:48)
Doug, God is calling you to repent. He will not hear any other prayer. The LORD will remove the logs from your own eye once you truly repent and place your whole faith in Christ alone – who gave you His Word – His judgments.
EMAIL RECEIVED:
“Subject: Thank you!!! Message Body: I just wanted to thank you for all your post. I came across Jesse Morrel and Kerrigan Skelly (2 sinless perfectionism false teachers) and just felt so awful because I knew I was not completely sinlessly perfect. I am glad to have come across your articles. They have restored me back to hope. Thank you!” Natalianne
REPLY:
Hi Natalianne. Thank you for emailing sister. So
glad the LORD is moving in your life. Memorizing 2 Cor 3:17 and Gal 5:1 and 3:3 has helped my life immensely! God is so good. If you wish to be on the ministry email, just let me know sister. In Christ, Todd | Sinless Perfectionism Exposed
EMAIL MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“I get concerned when I read some of your articles concerning other ministries. Unfortunately you are not the only one. What is interesting when I read some of the information from the quote false prophet list of people you have on your list. I have yet to see your name on their list, because they don’t have one. Their main calling is to minister and love on the body of Christ and those who don’t know Him. Fortunately I have not found in the scriptures the ministry of correction. All I see is the love of Jesus being spread abroad. One thing is Jesus came to minister to the broken hearted, that means humble and ready to receive and not pull down. Jesus did not like the religious, He had little to say except you sons of vipers. I’m speaking from experience, if you continue on this track you will Fall. It took me years to recover from what I see you doing here. It took a lot of asking forgiveness and ALOT OF REPENTANCE, I am being renewed day by day in seeing people through the eyes of Jesus. I’m sure you get these comments all the time BUT PLEASE go before the Lord and ask forgiveness and forgive your earthly dad for what he did when you were 7 years old and seek out inner healing because there is a root to what is in your heart for what you’re doing here. Be blessed.” Bob
REPLY:
Hi Bob.
Thanks for expressing your thoughts.
You say you are “concerned”? Seems like it’s high time you got concerned about your own depraved, blinded state.
Will you call Christ’s apostle Paul a liar and a deceiver for issuing warnings such as: “But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived”? 2 Timothy 3:13 Did Paul lie OR is there a real threat?
It seems clear that you haven’t read the Scriptures well if you haven’t found the myriad of verses on correction which is clear proof that the wolves have had their satanic effect on your mind (1 Peter 5:8). Those beguilers you’ve chosen over Christ don’t obey God by exposing other wolves and thereby prove themselves as wolves – who don’t want to be discovered.
True born again saints are commanded to “MARK THEM.” (Romans 16:17-18) Do you know what “Mark them” means? SKOPEO is the Greek word for “mark” and means to put them in the cross hairs – aim in and expose them.
“And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove (expose, bring the darkness to the light) them.” Ephesians 5:11
God is calling you to get into His Word: “My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge.” Hosea 4:6
Perhaps, due to your own refusal to love and study and know God’s Word for yourself, you’ve been turned over by God Himself to “strong delusion” so that you believe these lies (2 Thessalonians 2:9-12). This is “after the working of SATAN.”
“Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.” 2 Thessalonians 2:9-12
I bet the wolves you’ve allowed to deceive you will never deal with texts/Bible passages like the one above, right? We know the answer.
“Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try (TEST) the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.” 1 John 4:1
How can you possibly believe these false leaders “love” everybody when they refuse to communicate the whole counsel of Scripture which is directly from the only One who “is love”? (1 John 4:8, 16). No, the devil’s agents who you’ve allowed to mislead you intentionally dodge out mountains of Scripture – and siphon out selected verses to deceive the gullible – “Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them. 18 For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly (selfish carnal appetites); and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple (un-repentant and unlearned and therefore gullible).” Romans 16:17-18
Preaching the Word and rebuking/correcting are a divine command:
“Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, REBUKE (correct), exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine. 3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; 4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.” 2 Timothy 4:2-4
Of whiners who refuse to truly repent and abandon their life to Christ, Ray Zeitler writes: “Upon hearing the hard truths of God’s Word, some say: ‘But I don’t like that Scripture… cause the Lord told me something different.’ Delusional! How is that any different than the made up fairy tale story from Joseph Smith? Or any different than the golden calf… we saw how well that worked out for the Jews.”
God gave us His Word so we could be CORRECTED:
“All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for CORRECTION, for instruction in righteousness: 17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.” 2 Timothy 3:16-17
Bob, you said: “Jesus did not like the religious, He had little to say except you sons of vipers.” Reply: 1. Jesus didn’t like the religious yes but HOW do YOU know that if HE DIDN’T say so??? Your problem is that you don’t realize just how many times He warned of wolves. Do you begin to see how blind you are friend? Read Matthew 23 and get delivered of your little pansy false “Jesus” notions. The Son of God and His men are not wall flowers. Time to repent and God will grant a spine. Do you not realize that in Matthew 23 alone, just 1 chapter, Jesus told the false religious leaders they were going to hell THREE TIMES? Read Matthew 11:12 and stand up like a man – the kingdom of God is full of conflict.
“And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force.” Matthew 11:12
This is a war. No time for being a cowardly pansy. “Endure hardness as a good soldier of Jesus Christ.” (2 Timothy 2:2-4).
“FIGHT” is a biblical mandate:
“FIGHT the good fight of faith, lay hold on eternal life, whereunto thou art also called, and hast professed a good profession before many witnesses.” 1 Timothy 6:12
“We must through MUCH tribulation enter into the kingdom of God.” Acts 14:22
You state: ” I’m speaking from experience, if you continue on this track you will Fall.”
Yes it’s more than obvious that you speak “from experience” and not from God’s Word. Been at this biblical work of exposing false prophets for 3 1/2 decades now. The fact is Bob, you’ve already fallen and simply don’t yet realize it. You are part of the prophesied self-loving, Savior-denying generation of those who ” profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.” (Titus 1:16) The Holy Ghost foretold that the final generation will have a mere “form of godliness but deny the power (divine authority) thereof.’ (2 Timothy 3:5) Denying the power of Christ to reign in one’s personal life is what the Holy Spirit is getting at here. Read this passage to see the details of this generation of self-loving, reputation-preserving moral cowards who openly deny Christ the right to reign in their personal lives – 2 Timothy 3:1-7, 13.
“There is a generation that are pure in their own eyes, and yet is not washed from their filthiness.” Proverbs 30:12
You stated: “I’m speaking from experience” – and that’s the problem. You aren’t speaking as of the oracles of God. You have not repented and do not study and know the Word of God for yourself and this is why you are still in darkness (1 Peter 4:10-11). You don’t speak for Christ.
“STUDY to shew THYSELF approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.” 2 Timothy 2:15
To “earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints” is a divine mandate. And this because “there are certain men (ungodly wolves) crept in unawares (undetected by the blind).”
“Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints. 4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.” Jude 3-4
Apparently, you were so busy judging me for supposedly wrongly judging that you missed the myriad of resources to help you learn God’s Word on the ministry website, such as Bible School modules, Study Guides, Biblical Literacy tests, and well over a thousand other Scripture-rich posts.
IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM with wolves being called out by name, YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH GOD! REPENT NOW BEFORE IT’S TOO LATE! You are still full of self and in darkness (John 3:19-21). You may wish to beware of your collusion and bidding Godspeed to the very enemies of Christ and His cross – which is exactly what you are doing (2 John 7-11). Wolf Defenders
JESUS says there are “MANY false prophets” and you call the Son of God a liar by shunning and ignoring His many warnings of the “ravenous wolves.” (Matthew 7:15; 24:11, 24; 23:1-25, etc.). Oh and Christ inspired His apostles to speak voluminously of this same threat to the sheep of His pasture for which He died. The reason you don’t see this yet Bob is that apparently you are full of yourself – and that’s why we need the cross – something those “enemies of the cross of Christ” you’ve espoused will not mention, much less teach on (Galatians 2:20; 6:14; Colossians 3:3).
You state: “It took me years to recover from what I see you doing here.” Reply: No, apparently, you were being critical and condemning out of your own depraved heart way back then – instead of denying yourself, taking up your cross, and following Jesus – and consequently being full of God’s love to protect the very saints He died to save!
Are you deeply in and studying God’s Word daily? We both know that answer. If not, you’re already backslidden, lukewarm, and ready to be spewed – rejected (Revelation 3:15-16).
THE LORD’S WATCHMEN are obediently on their posts and doing exactly what they are supposed to be doing – warning. “So thou, O son of man, I have set thee a watchman unto the house of Israel; therefore thou shalt hear the word at my mouth, and WARN them from me.” Ezekiel 33:7
Jesus and all of His prophets and holy apostles warned. They were true to the Great Shepherd of His sheep who broods jealously over and protects the sheep of His pasture (Hebrews 13:20).
Bob, when is the last time YOU personally led someone to Jesus?
You claim the wolves whose lies you’ve bought are “seeing people through the eyes of Jesus.” By lying to them?
“But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. 2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. 3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their DAMNATION slumbereth not.” 2 Peter 2:1-3
Bob, it seems obvious that you don’t know and adhere to the very words of Jesus and therefore according to Jesus, are “not of God.” See John 8:47. Instead you follow mere sinful men. This plainly reveals that you are following “another Jesus” and don’t know the Jesus revealed to us in Holy Scripture. See Galatians 1:6-9 and 2 Corinthians 11:2-5.
What my dad did when I was 7? There you go attributing obedience to the LORD to something you made up in your own darkened heart. This is what the Bible calls divination – or conjuring up things. This is further evidence that you “prophesy lies … of the deceit of their own heart;” “How long shall this be in the heart of the prophets that prophesy lies? yea, they are prophets of the deceit of their own heart;” Jeremiah 23:26
“Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded. 9 Be afflicted, and mourn, and weep: let your laughter be turned to mourning, and your joy to heaviness.” James 4:8-9
The LORD is calling you to repentance Bob – to get all the logs out of your own eyes and to cease hypocritically judging others who are actually doing exactly what the Bible tells us true servants of the LORD do.
“Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye.”
Matthew 7:1-5
We ALL need God’s mercy and yet can only receive such when we do things His way and no other way. Hosea 14:1-2
Naming Names: Is it Biblical? Yes or no?
todd
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“No Todd it is not idolatry to study the words of men. We all do it to become educated. It was men (and women) who taught you to speak, read, write, do arithmetic, etc. The men I listed looked at scripture says about predestination and the will of man. They systematically countered the arguments of the men of their days who were making similar arguments to the one you are trying to make. But instead of educating yourself of what the Arguments of Erasmus were and how Luther destroyed them with scripture, or where Calvin elaborated on the arguments of Luther, or how Edwards destroyed the arguments being put forth in his days, you proudly put on display your total lack of understanding of the subject matter. You don’t even understand the positions of these men, whose theology you seek to critique because NONE of them taught that we are like robots, lacking responsibility for our actions. By mischaracterizing a theological position that you clearly don’t understand and have never studied you have created a straw man to argue against.” Bill
REPLY:
Bill, you are an idolater who is either a seminarian or in the least you’ve allowed yourself to be indoctrinated (made a twofold more child of hell) by seminarians wolves. Show just 1 Scripture that even hints that New Testament believers are to be educated in the knowledge of the sinful philosophers and heretical theologians of their day? Waiting ….? “Educated”? Satan educates. You have lived the straw man argument by wasting your time studying mere men and now you defend such vile, diabolical, murderous heretics such as John Calvin. What spirit are you of? The born again disciples of Jesus must know HIS Word and have HIS revelation. Who needs to even know those arguments? Paul warned against such. Knowing the dispersing the truth is what God calls His people to. You are bogged down in the mud of all this nonsense. You’ve wasted God’s time studying the words and beliefs of mere sinful men instead of simply studying God’s Word in the King James Bible. Satan has defeated you in this. You are exactly like Jesus describes the false leaders/pharisees of His day …. He cited them for setting the Word of God aside for their own traditions of mere men (Mark 7:6-9). You have allowed the writings and words of mere sinful men to trump God’s Word. Jesus says that those who are “of God” hear and elevate God’s Word as final authority. You can’t have it both ways and God hates mixture. “Let God be true and EVERY man a liar.” (Romans 3:4) When the LORD says “My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge”, was He speaking of lacking the knowledge and beliefs of the men of that day OR was He speaking of not knowing HIS Word? He answers this question in the very verse: “My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.” (Hosea 4:6)
Total convoluted antichrist mixture coming out of pure rebellion…. claiming to love Christ and yet wasting the time HE gave you on this diabolical mess ….. Satan is laughing. If you knew and believed God’s Word, you’d see this …. He’s calling you to true repentance. When you truly repent, the LORD will instill in you His holy fear and you will study HIS words and not the words and philosophies of mere sinful men. He gave us His Word for this very reason (Deuteronomy 4:10). The LORD Jesus taught that those who are “of God” give heed to and elevate “God’s word,” not man’s (John 8:47).
Historical Fact: Calvin’s doctrines are founded in the antichrist heresies of metaphysics and catholicism …. The pagan philosopher, Aristotle, born in 384 BC, wrote a book he called, Metaphysics. His reasoning concluded that “God can’t feel and can’t change.” This God must be unaffected by anything and unalterable. He is unchanging, for change too would be a weakness and change thus renders Him less than the ultimate God. Aristotle’s God cannot love, cannot suffer and cannot be influenced. Saint Augustine incorporated this philosophy from Plato, Plotinus and Aristotle into his writings which were transferred to John Calvin. Thus Calvin’s doctrine of predestination was born. Calvinism’s Satanic Roots | Seminarian Sacrilege
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“Be careful who you disrespect, disregard or dishonor in the natural realm. You don’t know their RANK in the SPIRIT.”
REPLY:
With all honor, namely to the LORD and His beloved body …. “rank in the Spirit” is nowhere in the Bible. Such a term panders to and fosters pride and is heard in the false prophetic and word of faith movements. In those churches you will find those who tout themselves and not Christ. Their identity is sinful self which they cloak with a facade of spirituality. But Jesus says simply “But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren.
9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.
10 Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ.
11 But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant.
12 And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted.” Matthew 23:8-12
See also Philippians 2:3-5 and Colossians 3:3 and Galatians 2:20.
ASSAILED:
In defense of a “pastor” who truly manifested his blindness and false doctrine, one here came at me with how “fine and loving” the rebuked wolf is and how he’d visited his church, etc.
REPLY:
There are many “fine, loving” devils posing as Christ’s representatives who are wolves in sheep’s clothing as Jesus warned repeatedly (Matthew 7:15; 24, 11, 24). Catholic priests and mormon priests are “fine, loving” men who are not of God and leading many to eternal damnation! Prov 14:12 … Sounds like you need to repent and get into God’s Word, crying out to Him to bless you to be possessed with the holy fear of the LORD.
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“Be careful who you disrespect, disregard or dishonor in the natural realm. You don’t know their RANK in the SPIRIT.”
REPLY:
With all honor, namely to the LORD and His beloved body …. “rank in the Spirit” is nowhere in the Bible. Such a term panders to and fosters pride and is heard in the false prophetic and word of faith movements. In those churches you will find those who tout themselves and not Christ. Their identity is sinful self which they cloak with a veneer of spirituality. But Jesus says simply “But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren. 9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven. 10 Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ. 11 But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant. 12 And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted.” Matthew 23:8-12
See also Philippians 2:3-5 and Colossians 3:3 and Galatians 2:20.
Question Received:
“Is it wrong Todd to drive a nice car and live in a nice house. Is that wrong when the Lord has actually blessed you with these things though they do not move you or hold your trust.”
Reply:
Is it wrong to keep money from those in need and God’s work while you lavish yourself in this fleeting sinful world? That’s the Gospel question, right. Isn’t this exactly what the once “rich men” did before dying and being sent irrevocably to hell? (Luke 16:19-31) You mention nothing of being “rich toward God” instead of self (Luke 12:15-21). You mention nothing of using this world’s riches to reach others (Deuteronomy 8:18). Your question could have just as easily been a statement such as: “Praise God for the ability to earn and help others and further the message of the Gospel of Jesus!” This reveals that your affections are on the things of this world and not on Christ! (Colossians 3:1-4). God is calling you to repentance and to truly lay down your life. When you do, you will be enthralled in the Great commission Jesus gave and not making excuses for getting stuff for self in this world. “Minding earthly things” is a characteristic of those who are “enemies of the cross of Christ” “whose god is their belly” (carnal appetites). Read Philippians 3:18-19.
Question Received:
“Todd: My church is heavily involved in the book, “Not a Fan”, by Kyle Idelman (sp) to the point they study it in the worship service on Sun. morning and Bible studies on Sun. night and Wed. night. Everyone is simply “gaga” over it and the author. This has been going on for the past 6-8 weeks and they don’t plan to end it anytime soon. I plan to stay away & attend another church until it’s over. I feel like they are putting this book over the Bible, and its author before God, and it makes me feel resentful because of it. Please tell me if you think I am wrong and should just put my feelings aside and let it go. Thank you.” Donna
Reply:
No, you are being alerted by the Holy Spirit sounds like sister. There’s something fundamentally wrong about using that time together as a body going through a mere man’s book. Yes typical apostate modern church scenario here sister. Isn’t it interesting that these counterfeits never go through one of the 66 glorious books of the canon of Holy Scripture and yet they are going through a mere man’s book? Can nearly guarantee it’s not Scripture rich ….. remember Lk 6:26 …. whenever people get gaga over men, it’s usually because they are false.
Question Received:
“So, I’ve been reading your site. I have some questions. What is your on gay rights? Abortion? and most especially, how do you feel about Catholics and Catholic priests?” Therese
Reply:
“Hi Therese.
Well as a born again Bible believer ….. all 3 of these items are addressed on the ministry site.
- Sodomy / homosexuality is sin
- Abortion is murder and sin
- The catholic church is antichrist – a works based, Christ-denying cult
Also, there is a CATEGORY drop-down menu and a SEARCH box on this site.
Message Received:
“In the Bible, there are several verses to identify false pastors, why you do not quote in your opinion about the writings of Charles G. Finney? Why you do not expose false pastor like Benny Hinn, Joel Osteen, Joyce Meyer and others?”
Reply:
Hello. Thanks for your email. There is a SEARCH box and also a CATEGORY drop down menu on this site. Check these out concerning your email:
todd
Message Received:
“Does true Christianity exist?…’When the Son of Man comes, shall He find faith on earth’?…What did Jesus mean by that statement? Especially in today’s modern world where everyone is ‘knowledgeable’ of biblical ‘truth,’ and there are so many claiming to be ‘born again.’ Perhaps our faith is bogus and we worship a pseudo God, one that we project that suits our way of thinking and being. Maybe, we should all analyze and examine ourselves. Because if Jesus knew beyond the shadow of a doubt that there would be one single person truly waiting for Him in true Godly faith, He would not have made that statement!” Josh
Reply:
Hi Josh. Obviously Jesus WILL have a remnant of true saints to come back for, otherwise He would never have promised such so many times (1 Thess. 4:16-18; James 5:7-9; Christ called His people a “little flock” and so we know He has a flock (Luke 12:32) …. who are His sheep, hear His voice, and follow Him (John 10:1-10). There will be those on His RIGHT hand, received when He returns with a glorious “Well done my good and faithful servant!” (Matthew 25). There are those in Revelation 6 who are the souls of the redeemed who are under the altar in Heaven. The full counsel of Scripture refutes this idea that Jesus will return for no one. He told us that His Bride is making itself ready to meet Him and so this again tells us that He has people (Revelation 19:7-8, etc.).
Message Received:
“How do you know if a person is Catholic that they are not born again. I think God can only make the decision who goes to hell.”
Reply:
Hi. There’s no such thing as an idolater who is saved. Read Rev. 21:8. Can a mormon, JW, or muslim be born again? No. No born again believer would be partaking with doctrines of devils. “Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: ye cannot be partakers of the Lord’s table, and of the table of devils.” 1 Cor. 10:21 ….. as an ex-catholic, I know exactly what false gospel they preach. It’s nowhere near the original Gospel of the grace of God in Christ. It’s a false, works-based cult.
Message Received (Wolf Defender Rebuked!):
“Don’t judge Pastors that you don’t know, GOD called him (John Piper) 45 years ago. Take a look at your own life. If you can’t say anything good, say nothing at all.” Francois Du Plessis
Reply:
Deception. The Bible never says If you can’t say anything good, say nothing at all.” In fact, one does good to say the bad truth about people who are leading others to hell. We don’t know them? Nonsense. We all know them by the fruit of their doctrine (Matt. 7:13-20). Piper is a calvinist which means he’s a false teacher at best. ….. The Bible mandates that God’s people, especially men, be not spineless but rather mark and expose false teachers in order to protect Christ’s flock. The true body is busy teaching discernment (Ezek. 44:23) and earnestly contending for the faith once delivered to the saints (Jude 3-4). It’s time to judge your own heart, to repent, and get right with God before it’s too late. Any person who comes to the aid of a known wolf is bidding Godspeed to that enemy of Christ and will judged with that person (2 John 10-11). John Piper: Satanic High Priest of
Indoctrination and Initiation into the Cult of Calvin
Message Received:
“But some leaders may be teaching falsely, even slightly but we shouldn’t judge their motives.”
Reply:
“My brethren, be not many masters, knowing that we shall receive the greater condemnation.” James 3:1
Yes if someone is teaching “another gospel” they are “accursed” as false teachers period …. it doesn’t at all matter about their motives….. Their doctrine is not from Scripture, which if nothing else, all they’d have to do is simply read pure Scripture – straight from God’s written Word, period. Yet, they are choosing to buy into false systems of theology, movements, camps, and other notions and philosophies that did not come from the words of Holy Scripture (2 Timothy 2:15; 3:16-17, etc.). We all have a Bible and so have no excuse and as teachers are more accountable …. because if we teach anything but according to the Word, we are misleading others, are accursed, and there is no light in us (Gal. 1:6-9; Is. 8:20, etc.).
Message Received:
“Sad, Some people make a career out of bashing the ministers of the Gospel. Wish they would concentrate more on preaching the Goodness of the Gospel than accusing the ones who are doing. Pharisee spirit at work. The great Accuser.”
Reply:
So, you are saying that obeying God’s mandate to expose wolves who pose as leaders of His sheep is the work of a pharisee? chapters and verses please … Joshua, you need to get a life in the Word of God and own the personal, God given responsibility to watch over His flock. It’s time to repent and grow up into Christ and cease these little lame smokescreens … which usually come out of self-serving motives, you know, those unrepentant evil motives of greed etc that cause people to migrate to these wolves who feed those lusts? …. “false prophets and false teachers ….They allure through the lusts of the flesh …” Read 2 Peter 2 and Acts 20:29-32 and ask God to forgive you for having to concern for the flock Jesus bled to save and for seeking to cover and protect the very enemies of Christ (2 John 7-11).
What does Jude 3-4 tell true believers?
How about Rom. 16:17-18?
Was Paul the apostle a pharisee? See Acts 13:10
So, all “ministers” are God’s just because they wear sheep’s clothing (pose as such)? – 2 Corinthians 11:12-15 says: “But what I do, that I will do, that I may cut off occasion from them which desire occasion; that wherein they glory, they may be found even as we.
13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. 14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. 15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works. Are true Christians to Defend or Expose False Teachings and False Leaders?
Message Received:
“(Concerning mega churches) Let people learn, they like to go to big churches, and conferences, until they can see deeper in Christ, and have a deeper walk with the Lord then they won’t need big events to please them cause they will have Christ in a deeper level in their life that will please them all the time, with or without other people in their life. It takes time Todd. Many call on the name of the Lord, but to walk with the Lord in a deeper spiritual way, they need the internal walk with the Lord not the external. The external walk with the Lord will lead them to mega churches, we can only pray for them to see and know what God truly wants for them.”
Reply:
Hi. Thank you for dialoguing. If the LORD has saved them, He is still working in them to bring about an abiding, fruit-bearing fellowship with Him (John 15). When they are blessed with such they will see that they do not need those conferences or churches, hoopla, and the fanfare of it all which draws attention away from their LORD and Savior. The goal of those church businesses is to make themselves an essential component in their lives. That’s why they are constantly pointing people to their classes, groups, and programs instead of pointing them to Christ alone. They constantly drop innuendoes – to brand themselves. The spirit of antichrist is behind such a displacement of Christ as “Head” of each individual saint and His body at large. Colossians 2 nails this down hard. Anti simply means “in place of” and so this is the reason I speak freely to identify these placebo churches as antichrist – due to their incessant branding, programs, and membership drives (which is not at all biblical and displaces the blood bought membership we have in the one body of Christ). See Ephesians 4; 1 Corinthians 12).
Question Received:
“Could it be that those supporting the prosperity preachers are lost souls now who once knew Christ?”
Reply:
Hello brother. Read 2 Tim. 4:3-4 and 2 Thess. 2:10-12 and you will have God’s answer to this …. oh and also 2 Tim 3:1-7 and notice these are not rank heathen but rather those within the professing church who actually had a “form of godliness” …. when people are deceived, especially those whom Jesus once saved, they are willingly deceived … we know that because He gave us a Bible so we would know His truth/way and not be misled by beguilers who are making merchandise of the willingly deceived within the modern church world (2 Peter. 2:1-3, 17). Those who follow mere sinful men instead of following Christ by sitting at His feet daily and drinking in His Word, prove their hearts have departed from the LORD (Hebrews 3:12-15).
Message Received:
“I used to tithe to Joel Osteen until the veil was lifted from my eyes! … I grew to really like Charles Stanley, have been tithing to his church! There’s no one left in my eyes! I have been so very disappointed with churches that I have stopped going! .. So I have been reading my Bible and watching Charles Stanley on TV! .. Now I will read my Bible & look up to Jesus!” Charles Stanley Exposed
Reply:
Precious sister, this all proves and clearly demonstrates that God’s hand is upon you, His daughter. He is calling His true followers outside the apostate local churches which are nearly invariably run by false leaders. There are 2 books on this topic and many posts on the ministry website SafeGuardYourSoul.com …. I want to also encourage you to continue to obey the LORD with your giving. That’s a good thing and He will direct you as to where there is fertile ground in a New Testament ministry(ies) … which are known by their obedience in carrying out the Great Commission mandate He gave us. Praying for you sister.
Message Received from Osteen Defender:
“Let he is who is without sin……….” B. (This person was wanting true disciples who were exposing Osteen for the wolf to back off and to cease obeying the Gospel mandate to expose Christ’s enemies.)
Reply:
Hi B. Actually it’s a sin with severe consequences to refuse to mark false teachers who are leading people to eternal damnation. Those who do so receive the same eternal reward as the enemy of Christ they defend. Read 2 John 7-11; Jude 3-4, and Romans 16:17-18. It is a divine mandate to “earnestly contend for the faith once delivered to the saints” (2 Timothy 4:2-4). The LORD is calling you to true repentance and when that happens, you will get into the whole counsel of God’s Word and live an authentic New Testament life (2 Timothy 2:15). Jesus calls us to die and as we do we have the promise of living or having our BEST LIFE for eternity not now. Paul says that only the “enemies of the cross of Christ” would teach such (Philippians 3:18-21). Please view this: Beware of the Wolf Defenders
Connie Long writes:
“Those who listen to him, and the many more like him, get very ugly and downright angry when you try to show them through God’s Word, their idol is a wolf in sheep’s clothing. They don’t like you throwing truth bombs in their, “positive possibility, me, my and I, all about me gospel.” These are those who profess Christ, but do not possess Christ, they know about Christ, but do not know Christ. They do not believe that they must take up their cross and die daily, they do not believe that Christ is Lord of all or He is not Lord at all…”
Ray Zeitler notes:
“2 John was one of the biggest revelations the Lord led me to. Am I accepting of sin to the point that I willingly want to accept the sin of false teachers? To have a portion of that sin laid on my debt that Jesus paid? Even though I personally did not commit their sin, I accept a part of it like I committed it… Even the act of bidding them Godspeed, or welcoming them into our home is sinful… I would rather concentrate on my repenting from my sins, living a holy life and not have to worry about the sins of another being laid at my feet..”
Lorin Richman writes:
“Another one they always use out of context is, “touch not God’s anointed!”, not realizing that false teachers ARE NOT God’s anointed, but rather His believers are because we are in Jesus and He is in us.”
Message Received:
“The world hates Christians because they’re so irrational!” (from a professing Christian)
Reply:
Jesus told us that because we are truly His, the world would hate us…. “Ye shall be hated by all men for my name’s sake.” (Matthew 10:22) And “The world cannot hate you; but me it hateth, because I testify of it, that the works thereof are evil.” John 7:7 etc. So yes true disciples of Jesus are hated, not because they are irrational but simply because they are Christ’s! 2 Timothy 3:12
Message Received:
“Oh my you are so judgmental and damning…not what a Christian should be….if I were you I would think about what I was saying about God’s people…it’s not about what we believe or are taught to believe but what Jesus did….and we cannot add or take away from that…that is why I left the church….the only thing blasphemous to God is cursing His creation…and saying what you believe is right and acting like this…..Paul said he was a chief sinner because of his killing the first Christians but he did it in innocence because he thought he was doing good for God…..if you think this is doing good for Him….it’s not.”
Reply:
Hi Regina. I am in no way moved or angry at what you stated here. It’s interesting how you openly condemn me while claiming I am being condemning. Have you ever read Matthew 7:1-6 and Romans 2:1-3?
The Catholic religion is damning the souls of millions and you are defending this enemy of the LORD Jesus Christ while claiming to be loving. The Bible is the final authority – it’s the very Word of God – and it states that we have “ALL sinned” and are fully guilty before the very Judge of our eternal souls (Romans 3:10, 23). God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son and not some self and Satanically appointed, blasphemous, phony, pagan religion out of Rome that claims to have exclusive rights to offer the sacrifice Jesus single-handedly came to provide. This same Son of God who bled and rose again to save us, also commanded – “Ye MUST be born again” to enter His eternal family and kingdom (John 3:3, 7). “For by grace (unmerited favor) are ye saved through faith and that not of yourself; It is the gift of God; not of works lest any man should boast.” (Ephesians 2:8-9)
Message Received:
“Todd, I read this a couple of times today, and it lists just about everybody out there…even Smith Wigglesworth and Lester Sumrall…so I’m wondering who and I mean who out there is teaching sound doctrine/pure truth…I’ve caught a preacher named Mel Bond a few times, watched “Gospel Truth by Andrew Womack” which builds faith and humbles…..we are all men and all fall short and not one seeketh, not one understands everything…. I sat back in the early 80’s under a man named Hobart Freeman whose church was Faith Assembly in Northern Indiana…a solid faith teacher but boy things went bad (google his name) and left many if not all confused when it deteriorated….and Freeman never pointed to himself, always exhorted to get in the Word…so I left and wandered not becoming a worldly sinful man but always tried to remain transparent before God…so here I am today, got a Bible and am seeking God, by grace walking in Rom 12:1-3 but it’s very difficult to discern some of what’s happening out there today…thanks for listening and always encouraging… Plan on supporting your ministry but having a financial trial currently.” Tom
Reply:
Well, as you pointed out, we have God’s Word in the King James Bible and because of this we can have pure fellowship with Him without the tainting of mere men. Lester Sumrall and Andrew Womack are WOF/Word of Faith which means they are false and aligned with known false doctrine and false teachers (Ezekiel 22:25-27). Or, at best people like this are in great danger. I go with the former. Yes there is no perfect, sinless vessel and even Paul had to be checked out/tested by the Bereans (Acts 17:10-11). There’s a spirit that will come on any of us if we fellowship with wolves, no matter how innocent it may seem. I’m talking about blatant false teachers and/or those who align themselves with them such as WOF beguilers. Regrettably, the vast majority of men in ministry are branding in the minds of their audiences their ministry, not Christ and His cross. They are perpetually selling or branding their own names and ministries (Colossians 2:6-10, 18-19). I will lift you in prayer brother right now. Feel free to call sometime brother Tom. During day is best 214-425-8398.
Message Received:
“We must not judge but love and pray for others and not expose them. It is not our job to judge…it is our job to pray for them…if you see wrong in them pray for them….these things are not of God…because God says to pray for our enemies not destroy our enemies…where is your heart? Leave everything to God…yes it is true we need to be careful & be warned of false prophets but also we need to be warned of how we preach & judge others or God’s Word! Surely I say to you…I forgive you because even among wolves God is there to save me….my love for God is very far instinct from yours….& my faith in him is very far greater than yours…..cause you do not know my heart….this what God made me to be….His fruit of His love & through that fruit I shall continue to grow…..by your own means seek in your heart…in what I believe in….but my heart seeks the love of God..” Christina
Reply:
Identifying and marking “them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine” of the LORD, is to be a regular part of the Christian life. In an hour when the proliferation of false teaching is mutating at an increasingly exponential rate, those who love the LORD must examine and test everything against the final authority of the recorded oracles of God (Acts 17:11). The following warning enlightens us to understand this:
“Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.” Colossians 2:8
Christina, did you know that Jesus instructed us to “judge righteous judgment” and in this case He obviously counted the judgment of His disciples to be unrighteous instead of righteous (Jn. 7:24).
I suggest that you yourself stop judging those who are judging righteous judgment as Jesus commanded His true people to do (John 7:24).
Where’s the Scripture Christina? Where did God ever tell us to pray for wolves? Did He not mandate that we expose them so that their prey would not be deceived and go to hell? Chapters and verses please?
Acts 20:27-32 is truly key to seeing the apostolic faith and how it and those saved by that original Gospel are to be safeguarded against the enemy’s wolves. Also Philippians 1:17 and Jude 3-4. If you name the name of Jesus Christ, please study these passages prayerfully and carefully.
Is it Biblical to Mark False Teachers?
Millions are being taught by the wolves who have deceived them not to expose them. I was personally taught by the wolves who deceived me not to ever speak a word against them. They were covering their tracks by using Scripture out of context to their own self-serving advantage (Philippians 3:18-19).
What does the Bible tell us to do about false leaders who are misleading others? “Mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.” Romans 16:17
We are commanded to never endorse or help in any way those who do not preach strictly God’s Word, which is “the doctrine of Christ”:
“For MANY DECEIVERS are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist. 8 Look to yourselves (take personal responsibility to earnestly contend for the truth), that we lose not those things which we have wrought, but that we receive a full reward. 9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth (remains) not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth (continues) in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. 10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: 11 For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.” 2 John 7-11
You are defending the right of the very enemies of the One you claim to be serving to mislead precious sheep whom Jesus bled to save …. and claiming it’s love. This is delusional.
It sure IS IS IS our job to judge – The Son of God says “JUDGE righteous judgment.” John 7:24 …. Now who’s lying – Christ or Christina?
Christina, the hatred for Christ in your heart is manifesting ….. you are fighting for and defending His very enemies. How would you feel if your own family member who you thought loved you, went to war to fight for and defend someone who was your sworn enemy? That’s betrayal isn’t it? And yet you seek to dress it up as love. But the Bible declares: “Open rebuke is better than secret love.
6 Faithful are the wounds of a friend; but the kisses of an enemy are deceitful.” (Prov. 27:5-6)
How does the LORD feel that you claim to love Him while ignoring His words and fighting to defend His enemies that are destroying the people He came and died to save on that cross?
Jesus says “Out of the abundance of the HEART the mouth speaketh.” (Matt. 12:34) Your heart is manifested openly by your own words and thoughts which you have penned here. So we do know your heart.
Message Received:
“Wow! Have any of you listened to the message they preach? Joel Osteen says at the end of every sermon to find a Bible based church, he does not say buy my book. Joseph Prince does in fact preach the gospel and better than any pastor I have ever heard. Are you all that shocked that God’s blessings on these men’s lives can be so great? Yes they sell books, that’s where they get their money, not from the flocks of blind sheep you assume are sending them piles of cash every week. Actually watch a sermon or show just once… many have come to faith in Christ Jesus because of those 2 men sharing the gospel. Is this not God’s will???? To share the message, to feed the poor? Please feel free to contact them and find out exactly what ministry outreaches they are involved in. Also maybe ask Father God what his opinion is on pastors who speak biblical truths… Sounds like a spirit of envy to me. Does it bother you that God has blessed them? May God bless you and keep you on the path… do not pray for me! Do not! In fact I rebuke any prayers you have sent my way for me or my family. I am blessed enough already! Father God leads me and I will not condemn those who speak truths. James 4:11 Speak not evil one of another, brethren. He that speaketh evil of his brother, and judgeth his brother, speaketh evil of the law, and judgeth the law: but if thou judge the law, thou art not a doer of the law, but a judge. 12 There is one lawgiver, who is able to save and destroy: who art though that judgest another? What was the commandment Jesus added? To love one another…” Michelle
Reply:
Hi Michelle. Osteen never preaches God’s Word or the original Gospel. “God’s blessings on these men’s lives”? I guess the Muslims, Catholics, JWs, and Mormons are “blessed by God” too because they have much more wealth than these false teachers. They sell their books that contain anything but the original Gospel ….and make millions. Books aren’t a sin, what’s in them and/or what’s not in them is what matters. These men are selling their lies and have become multimillionaires doing so. God has shown us in His Word what He thinks of these greedy wolves Michelle (2 Peter 2:1-3, etc.). Joel Osteen Exposed
“Sounds like a spirit of envy to me. Does it bother you that God has blessed them? May God bless you and keep you on the path… do not pray for me! Do not! In fact I rebuke any prayers you have sent my way for me or my family. I am blessed enough already! Father God leads me and I will not condemn those who speak truths.”
You are now judging everyone on this post who are discerning believers and that’s okay? Isn’t that hypocritical? You are judging/condemning me and/or the others who see these wolves for who they are while saying we’re wrongly discerning/judging. The Bible tells us that if we bid Godspeed (endorse or defend) false prophets who are the very enemies of Christ, we will be judged with them…. —- WOLF WORSHIPERS: BEWARE of the Wolf Defenders … Truth-Despising, Wolf-Protecting, Devil-Defending Agents of Satan
—— SUPPORTING WOLVES (Christ’s very subverting enemies) will land you in hell with them according to God’s Word. https://safeguardyoursoul.com//wolf-protectors/
So far, instead of dealing with this biblical issue from Scripture, you have resorted to personal attack, condemning others who would dare tamper with your idol wolves ….
You are sadly deceived if you think Father God is leading you to defend those He told us are false and His very enemies …. God is calling you to come to Jesus in repentance and to truly get into His Word without the influence of mere sinful men whom you have trusted and made idols of ….covetousness and greed and loving your life in this world may be the roots … God’s Word warns us …. “But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. 2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. 3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.” 2 Peter 2:1-3
Judging or discerning false prophets by the fruit of their doctrines and ministries is not what James wrote about here. No, he was speaking of the true body of Christ of which wolves operating in our midst are not a part. So, this does not apply. They are not “brethren.” Jesus commanded us to “Judge righteous judgment.” (John 7:24) Jude wrote: “Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints. 4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.” Jude 3-4
Notice Michelle is a classic wolf worshiper. She says nothing of worship to the LORD Jesus but will fight to the death to defend obvious wolves who are the enemies of Jesus Christ. She has no hesitation in condemning me and perhaps others here while she simultaneously judges us for exposing those who have lied to her and captured her soul for satan himself. Unreal blindness and hypocrisy.
Message Received/Answered:
BERNICE: Hey, can you discern if someone is prophesying falsely?
TODD: Usually yes. 2 Peter 1:20-21 tells us that “the more sure word of prophecy” is the Holy Scriptures
BERNICE: Ok, The prophecy about tsunami or about the blood moon or the ww3 are they though?
TODD: most of that stuff is very misleading at best …. and hasn’t come to pass when they said it would …. I would stay clear of Francis Chan, Perry Stone, and John Hagee.
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Message Received:
(defending Sunday morning and modern church membership) “Do not forsake the assembling of yourselves.” Crystal
Reply:
Hi Crystal …. yes we’ve addressed that passage many times (Heb. 10:24-25)…. that says nothing of going to a church building on Sundays at a certain time and this being what’s important to Christ. In fact the earliest believers met house to house daily amen … Acts 2:42-27 … they simply could not get enough of Jesus who ordered us to serve Him “daily” and not weekly … many pastors use Heb. 10:24-25 in the wrong way …. yes Sunday is a great day to fellowship and I do it myself and yet, we must not limit this fellowship to Sunday mornings … in fact, check out the “daily” aspect of Hebrews 3:13 – “But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin.” We need Jesus “daily” and not weekly. The word weekly never appears in Scripture but “daily” appears in the New Testament Scriptures 22 times. Some pastors are building a business and they want people to associate their so called church building and church business with serving God which is wrong.
QUESTION RECEIVED:
“Are ‘Godspeed’ and God bless you’ the same? When we hear someone say “God bless you” to an unsaved soul it means ‘that’ person saying “God bless you” is partaker in their evil deeds according to Scripture. Thank you brother Todd for being so diligent in sharing HIS Word. Glory to Father YHWH!” Darlene T.
REPLY:
Hi Darlene. “Godspeed” is blessing or supporting the ministry or minister who is teaching falsehood whom the LORD tells us is “accursed.” (Galatians 1:6-9). In the context of 2 John 7-11, it’s not just an unsaved person John is speaking of, it’s someone who is peddling falsehoods, false teachings and misleading others which is a whole different thing. That person has become the very enemy of the LORD (2 Chronicles 19:2; Philippians 3:18-19). Saying “God bless you” to a lost soul is a good thing. Jesus told us that the Father blesses all – both the evil and the good and that we should have the same mindset/perspective toward them because God is “not willing that any should perish.” (Matthew 5:44-48; 2 Peter 3:9) When I say “God bless you” to a lost soul what I mean is that God did bless them and myself and all men when He sent Christ and my intention is to help lead them to Him.
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“I stopped attending service now in our church… My Pastor said that Baptist is the true church of Christ because it was started and it originated from John the Baptist…well I did believe it until I found out the real truth in you…” E.
REPLY:
Jesus Christ is the only Foundation and Chief Cornerstone of the true body of Christ, His Church – His blood bought, presently abiding people! (1 Peter 2; Corinthians 3:11, etc.). Satan’s job, and his human helpers’ (false leaders’) is to seduce and spoil you of this reward, even Christ Himself, by drawing your attention away from Christ our LORD to anything else. Read Colossians 1-2.
“For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.” 1 Corinthians 3:11
“He is the Rock, his work is perfect: for all his ways are judgment: a God of truth and without iniquity, just and right is he.” Deuteronomy 32:4
“Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD, Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone, a tried stone, a precious corner stone, a sure foundation: he that believeth shall not make haste.” Isaiah 28:16
1 Peter 2
“As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby:
1Pe 2:3 If so be ye have tasted that the Lord is gracious.
1Pe 2:4 To whom coming, as unto a living stone, disallowed indeed of men, but chosen of God, and precious,
1Pe 2:5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.
1Pe 2:6 Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded.
1Pe 2:7 Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner,
1Pe 2:8 And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed.
1Pe 2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvelous light:” … May your study of Jesus Christ deepen …. here’s some help Colossal Colossians!
INTERACTION:
“Thanks for your phone number, I will call sometime…back in the 80’s I sat under the teachings of a minister named Hobart Freeman, it seemed to be very sound doctrine but things fell apart so I’ve been kind of a loner biblically but believing to belong to a group of strong believers that don’t follow the status quo of today’s ear tickling ministers.” Tom S.
REPLY:
Well that may be the best place to be brother … we learn so many false and fake ways amidst the apostate modern church world…. God has to pull us out, if we are listening to Him … to “come out from among them and be ye separate” and that involves stopping going to and being influenced by them …. they are following each other and not Christ … for generations.
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