The Doctrine of Jezebel:
The Curse of Feminism
“And I find more bitter than death the woman, whose heart is snares and nets, and her hands as bands: whoso pleaseth God shall escape from her; but the sinner shall be taken by her.” Ecclesiastes 7:26
In this rebellion against the Creator, His purpose for creating the woman is defied. So, all participating persons are turned over to “strong delusion” for not loving and obeying the truth (2 Thessalonians 2:9-12). So, they become captive to evil spirits which make their lives all about seduction and manipulation.
Jezebels prey on weak men (Ahab’s), men are aren’t lovers of the truth. They migrate to these moral cowards who they can control and manipulate and use for their own self-serving purposes. They hate men who are truly strong in the LORD (Elijah’s), men who see them for who they are.
Men who are in the cross, living the crucified life, will always manifest jezebels and heretics! Bam. Jesus says to “Rejoice.” (Matthew 5:10-12)
Only ahabs – spineless moral cowards who refuse to stand on God’s Word – escape to scorn of jezebel
“While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage.” 2 Peter 2:19
In 2 Peter 2, we read of the “false teachers” and “false prophets” the apostle Peter warns us about. They are said to possess the characteristic of promising freedom while leading into bondage – and this all begins when a person is “overcome” by a lie or something contrary to what the truth is, as revealed by the LORD in His Word.
The Jezebel woman is simply the woman who disregards what her very Maker and the Judge of her eternal soul says He desires and requires her to be as a member of the feminine gender. As he did in the Garden, Satan specifically targets the woman and namely the Christian woman. He is in the church world, breathing his strange fire into the very “sanctuary” that is supposed to be a bastion for what is upright and correct in the eyes of God (Psalms 74:4, 7; 1 Peter 5:8; Revelation 12:12, etc.). The church world is full of this type of woman who is not fulfilling God’s non-negotiable calling.on her life.
THE WICKED daughters of the enemy of all souls are following in the footsteps of Jezebel of old who operated in brazen rebellion to the LORD while being the wife of Israel’s king (Ahab). Many men today have followed the wicked ways of Jezebel’s husband, Ahab (2 Kings 9). The women rebel and so do the men who lust after them – whoremongers. Beloved, “Be not ye therefore partakers with them.” (Ephesians 5:7) “Whoremongers and adulterers God will judge.” (Hebrews 13:4) Satan’s doctrine to “liberate” women from God’s original and clear role for her is no new thing. “There is NO new thing under the sun.” (Ecclesiastes 1:9)
Satan wants to convince the woman that there’s a better way than God’s way and purpose. We must return to our God and His purpose for your lives (Hosea 14:1-3). Jesus told us that Satan is the thief who wants to steal the divine purpose of the LORD from us.
“The thief (the devil) cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.” John 10:10
The one whom Jesus told us has come “to steal, to kill, and to destroy” has and is ruining the lives of millions upon millions of ladies and their victims (John 10:10; Revelation 2:20-23).
WE continue to see women daring to call themselves by the titles of apostles, prophets, and pastors. This could not be more unbiblical. Firstly, these are functions from God for men only and are not titles to use to glorify self (Ephesians 4:8-12; 1 Timothy 2:12). No, these are places of humble servitude for Christ’s glory alone (Matthew 20:20-28; 23:8-12; 1 Peter 4:10-11). Against the clear counsel of Christ, you also see spineless men and misled people allowing this without rebuking/correcting it (Revelation 2:20-23).
The thief is doing this by diverting both men and women from the original design of our Maker, the Judge of our eternal souls. In fact, in this late hour, there are so many women who claim to be Christians who have no joy or peace, fruit produced without fail in all who truly know and abide humbly in Christ (Galatians 5:22-23). They are no different than the lost women of this sinful world and it’s obvious in that they are empty – unfulfilled because they have erred from God’s original and still standing role for them as servant wives and mothers. Any woman not walking in our Creator’s purpose is and will always be miserable unless she repents, puts her faith in Christ and walks according to His stated purpose for her as a woman. No career, no amount of money, or any other counterfeit carrot is going to cure/solve her misery. Only the LORD can do that and He sure will for all who repent and return to Him. The greatest tragedy is that simple truth such as this is never addressed in the modern, apostate church world which is run by beguiling, self-serving wolves who have no godly fear or intestinal fortitude to set things in biblical order (Philippians 3:18-19). So, they suffer Jezebel (Revelation 2:20-24).
The LORD be praised for His God-fearing men and women who serve Him in sincerity and in truth! (1 Timothy 2:9-15; Titus 2:1-5; 1 Peter 3:1-7) They honor His Word and what it states of the divine purpose and order of the man, woman, family, and church.
One sister writes:
“The Jezebel spirit is out to destroy the work of God in the church and the home. Titus 1:11 warns us that there will be those who subvert houses, both church houses and households. This word subvert in the Strong’s Concordance (S.C.) (396 Gk.) means to overturn, overthrow. Overturn in the Merriam-Webster Collegiate Dictionary (MWCD) means to cause to turn over: UPSET, invalidate, destroy and reverse the Word of God, Godly teachings, and the vision of the Lord for the ministry and household. Overthrow in the (MWCD) means to cause the downfall of: Bring down, defeat the ministry and her household with her perverted way of thinking, her wrong mindset, and her teachings.” C.
Bonnie R. Hutchins notes:
“Too many women are too hungry for a woman to follow after. They will elevate the woman above the Truth of God, and He will never share His Glory. Beware the Jezebel spirit~ Often women will listen to a she-wolf simply because they are too offended to learn from the godly, biblical teaching of men. They are easy prey for the female false prophet who is seeking to devour them. Flee from evil! ~In Jesus name!”
The woman who is possessed by this evil spirit is one who insists upon fighting for her “right” to usurp the places in the family and the church that her Maker designed for men (males) alone to fulfill. Jezebel views men as her enemy due to her own victimization by a mere man or men (some actual and some perceived). She now lives her life fighting for a futile cause while claiming to be serving the very one who said “But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.” (1 Timothy 2:12) While she believes that men are her enemy, it’s actually her master Satan who is her enemy. While she vainly imagines that she is fighting for what is right, she will soon be judged by the One who sees her as a rebel to Him and His order.
“The aged women likewise, that they be in behaviour as becometh holiness, not false accusers, not given to much wine, teachers of good things; 4 That they may teach the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children, 5 To be discreet, chaste, keepers at home, good, obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God be not blasphemed.” Titus 2:3-5
Jezebel is the opposite of a “keeper(s) at home.” (Titus 2:5) She is a false accuser, teaches bad, not good things, refuses to love or respect her husband and her children by teaching them what is right, is not discreet, chaste, a keeper of the home, or obedient to her husband. Instead of keeping the home, Jezebel is busy being sinful, rebellious, loud, boisterous (outspoken), and stirring up trouble in the world, the church, and the family. Modern Jezebels have no desire or time to do what God called them to be and do. They are too busy marching, raising money, and fighting for women’s breasts (“cures” for cancer), women’s rights, animal rights, and planned murderhood (Susan G. Komen).
Exposing Jezebel’s agenda by living right, speaking out against Satan’s lies, or by disagreeing with her will land you on the list! And, if you are on that list, you should count it all joy and wear it as a badge of honor that the LORD’s agenda you are living is diametrically opposed to Satan’s agenda which is the Jezebel agenda.
WHILE calling others “feminists haters,” these same feminists, modern Jezebels, condemn other women who disagree with them – so, by their own definition, they are haters of women and abusers! Hypocrites is the more fitting term for such who are Satan’s children.
ANY person who dares to disagree with the evil doctrines of the modern Jezebels, is on their hit list. Well, if you are a person of truth, honoring the God who made men and women, then you have spoken truth and may be glad to know that you too are on Jezebel’s Hit List! Rejoice!
Assaulted by a “Worship” Leader with Brass Knuckles!
Testimony of Laureen H.:
“Every part of this poem (below) is the epitome of what I have been raising my daughters to be and am raising my son to look for in a future wife. This quote and my living this has for years placed me on the feminist hate list but I don’t care, it’s true!! There’s so many tough, coarse, rude, manipulative, women out there who are cruel and have crushed many men!!! I am praying that God will raise up men (real God-fearing men) to build up, to encourage, stand beside, pray with and cry with other men who need healing.”
Response:
Laureen, you are a rare blessing. The LORD is truly working in your life and in your precious family sister!!!!! There are little boys who will one day need a truly God-fearing wife who will need your daughters to be just that, in order to fulfill God’s perfect will in this earth as He ordained it to be. You should wear the fact that you are on Jezebel’s hit list (“feminist hate list”) as a badge of honor! You are being persecuted for righteousness’ sake and Jesus promised you will be greatly rewarded forever (Matthew 5:10-12). Those Jezebels who poses as liberators while bringing women into bondage, could not be more abominable before the Almighty than they are and will soon be vanquished into eternal damnation with the original Jezebel and her master, Satan! This is a spiritual battle at its core and not a battle of male and female! In fact, praise God for the opposite sex amen! There is so much beauty in our LORD’s creation! We must follow His plain instructions as to the roles of men and women – it’s really not that difficult and brings great blessings when we do!
Here’s the poem sister Laureen was referring to as one of the things that has gotten her “on the feminist hate list.” To them she is a traitor but to the LORD, she is His disciple, His true follower.
“The world has enough women who are tough; may I be a woman who is tender.
There are enough women who are coarse; may I be a woman who is kind.
There are enough women who are rude; may I be a woman who is refined.
There are enough women of fame and fortune; may I be a woman of faith.
There are enough women consumed with greed; may I be a woman consumed with goodness.
There are enough women consumed with vanity; may I be a woman consumed with virtue.
There are enough women consumed with popularity; may I be a woman consumed with purity.”
Assaulted with Brass Knuckles by a “Worship” Leader!
If you don’t think this battle is severe and that souls aren’t at stake, read this further testimony from Laureen:
“I know I am on the hate list of Jezebels. It’s constant, even when I walk into a room. When I walk into any room, they will start to act weird. In the past I was assaulted by one ‘worship’ leader. She used brass knuckles on me and there were 1 woman and 2 men attacking me. Oh and they led worship to the congregation 20 minutes later! I ended up with serious head injuries and was transferred to a big city hospital, I was also so traumatized, my balance was gone, and I had seizures. My speech is nearly perfect now since recovering from this attack. I can count again and my multiplication tables are almost back too. I can still play my instruments, and when dancing with the other ladies in the synagogue sometimes they hold my balance (because us women all hold hands when we dance). I have spoken now to other ministries, even ministries of drug addicts who are helping people get delivered. The Lord has blessed me to warn men how Delilahs and Jezebels operate, and practical things to look for in discerning them. And, my husband then speaks on how to practically deal with them biblically and survive, or live Scripture till the death!!! Back to the hospital and injury … the head injury is the reason why I have memory problems but even that is getting better. I am currently a living miracle because I am studying ancient biblical Hebrew translation at the University of Jerusalem and my private instructor is working for his doctorate. Thank God he is very, very extremely patient.
Beware because there are quite a few Jezebels who are starting to stay at home and try to look like keepers at home and spiritual. It’s getting weirder seriously!! These weird women are using nice sounding terms like ‘spiritual mothers,’ ‘kindred spirits,’ and other terms. You can see the fruit of this weirdness and you see spiritually dead families!!!!
Many women do have some Jezebel traits but everything can be overcome by faith and obedience to the LORD, taking Him at His Word and doing it, living it. Good fruit, beginning with God’s love, will result.
Judging the Fruit
“Jesus warned us that a tree is known by its’ fruit. How true that statement is, as our sister testifies. I am currently getting involved in a pro-life group of Christians who are taking a stand against the abomination of the despicable practice of child killing which is an epidemic in our country. The very women who loudly proclaim their ‘Right’ to choose, are the ones destroying their own daughters! WHAT about the rights of those beautiful baby girls? All civilized societies restrict the individual’s freedom to choose whenever that choice would harm an innocent person.
I enjoy working out at the YMCA before I go to my job and every morning, on one of the flat screens, I see Joyce Meyer in front of a large audience teaching and preaching; an audience which includes MEN! It is appalling to me, a father of three beautiful daughters and brother to three wonderful sisters, that any Christian man would abrogate his God given authority to a woman in direct violation of the written Word of God! Any woman who seeks to gain influence as a Christian teacher over men is disobeying the clear instructions of the Holy Spirit given to all of us who care to read the truth in God’s Word. The end result will be spiritual fornication.” – Steve Michels
The LORD is pointing out these sins so that those involved in enabling or performing or espousing these evil ideals can be delivered. – How to Get Delivered from any and all Evil, Spiritual Bondage and Activity.
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JEZEBEL FEEDBACK:
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“I am not sure what bible you are reading but pastors can be both men and women. One of the first apostles aside from the twelve was a woman. And not all intercessors are witches. Actually the original text stated Junia was a woman but I’m not going to debate this with u. As your religious beliefs seems to believe that women cannot be in a place of authority when clearly even the book of Exodus shows that Merriam was in a place of authority.
Dude read that scripture carefully…tee scripture in genesis doesn’t refer to the woman seeking leadership u r interpreting that in your own way secondly the timothy scripture plainly states “I, Timothy” says it nit God. Again, Meriam was in a place of authority. Lastly, you neglect to realize that jewish custom and practices are not for us. bye. as i said i am not going to debate with your religious spirit. Women can be in a place of authority and kead. I know the calking God has placed on my life and the authority and demonstration of His power and anointing over my life and many other women.
Sorry but I am well learned in scripture and have a degree in theology and KNOW the WORD and KNOW my GOD and don’t need u to teach me scripture. i have been saved for 32 years serving alongside my husband as apostles, prophets and teachers. bye sir.
Not running from anything but a will not deal with a religious spirit but rebuke it in Jesus’ name! women in leadership are throughout the entire bible (Deborah, Esther, Junis, Mary Magdalene, not only in reference but Jesus himself himself gave authority to women and entrusted them over men. have a blessed day.
i don’t care what your writing says. i KNOW the word and capacity i operate in, but i won’t stand by and let u interpret as u see fit nor make women believe they cannot be in a place of leadership or authority when the Father called both men and women. If married, to work together.” Francesca
REPLY:
First, Miriam was the sister of Moses. What position of headship was she in? Chapters and verses please.
in the 27 books of the New Testament canon, where is there even one example of a group of woman who are an organized intercessory prayer team? This doesn’t mean that Christians aren’t to pray together and yet it’s a whole different thing than what we see in these all female intercessory prayer groups today.
God has a stated will. He had a special reason to say that women are not to be in leadership over men in His church/among His people. After the fall, in Genesis 3, He says that the woman’s desire will be to her husband which means she will desire his position of headship. Yet that headship is a non-negotiable. Perhaps the fact that she was the first to be deceived and instrumental in the man’s agreeing with her, after the fall she was relegated to being under his headship. Look here …..
1 Timothy 2 has a lot of answers:
“In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array; 10 But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works. 11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. 12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. 13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve. 14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.”
I have nothing to hide or run from …. all I desire is to walk in His truth. Do you have something to hide or run from? ….. The original Greek does not hint of Junia being male or female.
Francesa, you seem to simply want this to be the case – so you are seeking to find validation for it. But it’s just not there. Not one of the 12 were female. Does that not tell us something? Jesus could just as easily have chosen 12 women but He chose none. Oh and by the way He created men and women. He was there at the fall. He knows more than any of us mere men that women need to be protected and this is why He told us they are not to be in headship or leadership over men. Also, Christ specifically addresses this and how it is forbidden and the great destruction it brings to people’s lives when women are allowed to be in authority where He forbid them to be. Read Revelation 2:20-23.
Using Junia to try to validate or build a whole Bible-contradicting doctrine that women can be in leadership over men in Christ’s body is weak at best. Here’s why …. Let’s look at the verse first:
“Salute Andronicus and Junia, my kinsmen, and my fellowprisoners, who are of note among the apostles, who also were in Christ before me.” Romans 16:7
First off, it’s not conclusive that Junia was even a female. Secondly, the Bible has a built-in system of interpretation. – “This is the third time I am coming to you. In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word (doctrine, teaching) be established.” (2 Corinthians 13:1) There is no solid basis at all that Junia was even a woman, much less to say she was an apostle.
One ministry sums this up this way: “The early church fathers are not in agreement about the gender of Junia. There even seems to be evidence that strongly suggests Junia was a male. Commentaries differ on the gender. Translations differ on how Romans 16:7 is to be rendered into English. There are different uses of the Greek word “apostello,” and it cannot be conclusively demonstrated to which categorical use of the term Junia should fit into. Even if Junia were an apostle in the sense of having seen the risen Lord, it doesn’t mean she was in authority in the Church. Therefore, for someone to conclude that Junia was a woman apostle in full authority in the Church cannot be maintained from the Scriptures.”
You are clearly not under the authority of Jesus Christ. He’s calling you to repent truly friend… to lay down your life. You will not be saved until you do. When you do you will have a meek, humble spirit and abide as Christ and His holy apostles stated you should as a female, God fearing woman.
You are in full rebellion, not against me but rather against the LORD. He’s calling you to lay down your life. I don’t believe you are saved whatsoever friend. Your fruit is showing to be that of rebellion which is witchraft (1 Samuel 15:22-23). If you know the LORD and the Bible so well, why are you running for cover? What do you have to hide?
It’s interesting that you say you don’t need me to teach you Scripture (because you are unteachable, full of pride and rebellion) and yet, in rebellion against God, you want to rule over men and teach them. Jezebel is manifested in vivid reality here.
Okay, wow you will just saying anything won’t you and put God’s name on it? This is what taking His holy name in vain means…. you are doing it right here. You said “Jesus himself himself gave authority to women and entrusted them over men.” Okay, if so, please give us all chapters and verses.
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“A true man or woman of God filled with the Spirit of God is usually hated, rejected, and despised by the carrier of the Jezebel Spirit.” Carol B.
“‘The Jezebel spirit’ is very real and is one of the main problems I see in the “modern American pop-culture church” There is a prevalence of Jezebel spirits running the whole show. They are everywhere manipulating weak men an usurping Holy Spirits leading…so that they may try to turn the bride of Christ into a spiritual harlot as they themselves are. Also, remember the spirit is not confined to just women. Many men are possessed by Jezebel as well.” Aaron S.
“Unfortunately I know quite a few of these Jezebels. And, they just never seem to stop, even when you think they have possibly changed! Still the same…still lying, manipulating, hurting everyone…and then never seem to know anything about it! Still playing the same old game.” Jennifer S.
“LOVE IT!!! I’m following Christ…I had been off track for too many years…NO ONE OR ANYTHING MEANS more than JESUS CHRIST to me….I realized that the fulfillment I was looking for could only be found in HIM and I have so much more peace in my life than ever before…Once I let go of people and realized I had to get in line and wait on God and bow to His will not the other way around!!!” Aquie H.
“Definitely Titus 2 as well as other great Scripture shows God’s divine order for the purpose for women and for His will and glory. It took me 40 years to finally say ‘Lord this isn’t working, show me!’ And, since then it’s been an honor to learn such beauty, responsibility and importance in such matter of ‘order.’ Because for sure I’ve witnessed that ‘it does not work’ any other way through three failed marriages with troubled and misled children. Yet, the only way is God’s way. Women aren’t so loving and supportive to one another as they should be an evil spirit has risen in our midst, It’s the ‘every woman for herself’ and it’s a vicious cycle that grows out of control and is passed down from generation to generation with even the simplest curse of ‘I hope you have kids 10 times worse than you.” (This is the very curse of Jezebel Jesus pronounced in Rev. 2:20-23). This is a powerful curse that needs broken and for women to get into the obedience of God by doing the very things He created and designed us to be. Even though women believe they can do it all, and they very well can but we weren’t designed or created to do it all ourselves and attempting such only causes havoc and chaos. Please pray for me. I am focusing only on what the Lord has led me to do as a Godly woman. It is quite trying and not an easy task with many who do not want to hear the truth of how and why God created the role of a woman in His divine order of creation. In doing so He made a completeness of His image through both the man and the woman in their seperate and very different roles together. We will be held accountable.” Kristine
25 Signs American Women Are Being Destroyed By The Sexual Revolution And Our Promiscuous Culture by Michael of endoftheamericandream.com
Has the sexual revolution been good for American women? Not at all. In fact, when you look at the facts it becomes clear that the sexual revolution has been an absolute disaster for American women. In the United States today, men have been trained to primarily view women as sex objects, and our culture has become exceedingly promiscuous. As a result, the United States leads the world in teen pregnancy, there are 19 million new STD infections every single year, more than half of all children born to women under the age of 30 are being born out of wedlock and we are witnessing the systematic breakdown of the family unit in America. And yet anyone that tries to teach our young women that they should dress modestly and keep themselves pure for marriage is severely criticized. Well, if all Americans actually did keep themselves pure until marriage, we wouldn’t have nearly the problems with STDs, teen pregnancy and abortion that we do today. The consequences of teaching our young women that they should be “free” to run around and sleep with a whole bunch of different men have been dramatic. The following are 25 signs that American women are being destroyed by the sexual revolution and our promiscuous culture…
#1 There are 19 million new STD infections in the United States every single year. Approximately half of them happen to young people in the 15 to 24-year-old age bracket.
#2 It costs the U.S. health care system approximately $17,000,000,000 every single year to treat sexually transmitted diseases.
#3 There were more than 1.4 million cases of chlamydia reported in the United States in 2011. An astounding 33 percent of those cases involved Americans that were younger than 20 years of age.
#4 It is estimated that about one out of every six Americans between the ages of 14 and 49 have genital herpes.
#5 24,000 American women become infertile each year due to undiagnosed STDs.
#6 In the United States today, approximately 47 percent of all high school students have had sex.
#7 Sadly, one out of every four teen girls in the U.S. has at least one sexually transmitted disease.
#8 According to one survey, 24 percent of all U.S. teens that have STDs say that they still have unprotected sex.
#9 Amazingly, one out of every five teen girls in the U.S. actually wants to be a teenage mother.
#10 If you can believe it, the United States has the highest teen pregnancy rate on the entire planet. In fact, the United States has a teen pregnancy rate that is more than twice as high as Canada, more than three times as high as France and more than seven times as high as Japan.
#11 When men don’t have to wait until they get married to have sex, then they are likely to delay marriage or never get married at all. According to the Pew Research Center, only 51 percent of all Americans that are at least 18 years old are currently married. Back in 1960, 72 percent of all U.S. adults were married.
#12 Today, an all-time low 44.2 percent of all Americans between the ages of 25 and 34 are married.
#13 In the United States today, more than half of all couples “move in together” before they get married.
#14 The divorce rate for couples that live together first is significantly higher than for those that do not.
#15 America has the highest divorce rate on the globe by a wide margin.
#16 For women under the age of 30 living in the United States today, more than half of all babies are being born out of wedlock.
#17 At this point, more than one out of every four children in the United States is being raised by a single parent.
#18 Approximately 42 percent of all single mothers in the United States are on food stamps.
#19 The sexual revolution has caused women to be primarily looked at as sex objects. In this kind of environment, it should be no surprise that there has been an absolute explosion of pornography in recent years. An astounding 30 percent of all Internet traffic now goes to pornography websites, and the U.S. produces more pornography than any other nation has in the history of the world.
#20 One survey discovered that 25 percent of all employees that have Internet access in America visit sex websites while they are at work.
#21 Overall, more than 50 million babies have been killed in America since Roe v. Wade was decided in 1973.
#22 When you total up all forms of abortion, including those caused by the abortion drug RU 486, the grand total comes to more than a million abortions performed in the United States every single year.
#23 The number of American babies killed by abortion each year is roughly equal to the number of U.S. military deaths that have occurred in all of the wars that the United States has ever been involved in combined.
#24 It has been reported that a staggering 41 percent of all New York City pregnancies end in abortion.
#25 One study found that 86 percent of all abortions are done for the sake of convenience.
So what can be done about any of this?
Unfortunately, turning our culture around would not be an easy thing. Loose sexuality is glorified on television, in the movies, on our radios and in our magazines. Just about everywhere you turn there are very powerful sexual images. The following is an excerpt from a recent article by Devvy Kidd…
America’s culture has come a long way since the 60s. For decades it has resembled a filthy sewer and shows no signs of returning to decency. Children are being sexualized with markets targeting little girls as young as kindergarten age. Cable television (which includes ABC, CBS, NBC) has become nothing more than a purveyor of soft porn. Sexual imagery is everywhere. The filth used to be confined to porn channels like HBO, Cinemax and others which I have never had in my home. Now, it’s the ‘big three’ (ABC, CBS, NBC) and all the other networks that consistently pump sin and sex into households every night of the week.
Meanwhile, we have raised an entire generation of young males that don’t know how to be men. Our culture has taught them to be extremely hesitant to be husbands and fathers, and instead it has taught them to be sex-obsessed idiots that want to “score” with as many women as possible.
As long as our culture pushes these values, we will continue to suffer the kinds of consequences listed above.
So what do all of you think about these things?
Do you believe that there is any hope for America?
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WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS CONCERNING JESUS CHRIST AS GOD ALMIGHTY: (Note: this is not an exhaustive look at the divinity of Jesus Christ. Also, note that some of the particular words that announce His divinity are underlined).
“Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel (means God with us).” Isaiah 7:14
Jesus says “if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.” (John 8:24) You cannot be saved if you do not believe that Jesus Christ is God Almighty because that’s who the Bible foretold that the Messiah would be. … “the mighty God.” (Isaiah 9:6) Jesus Christ is God “Almighty” (Revelation 1:8). …. “Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel (means God with us).” Isaiah 7:14 ,,, Jesus Christ was “GOD with us.”
Jesus Christ came to the earth exactly how and when the “more sure word of prophecy”, the Scriptures, foretold that He would come and to fulfill the Messianic prophecies of Himself to the exact detail (2 Peter 1:19-21).
“Then said I, Lo, I come: in the volume of the book it is written of me, 8 I delight to do thy will, O my God: yea, thy law is within my heart.” Psalms 40:7-8
“From cover to cover of the OT it was foretold not only that Christ would come into the world but that He would come with an eager, ready spirit to do the will of God. The will of God was not just in His head—it was inscribed in His very heart.” Believer’s Bible Commentary
“For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given (He already existed as God-with no beginning or end): and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of peace. Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end.” Isaiah 9:6,7
“But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting (Jesus, born as a man in Bethlehem, is God, and existed from eternity past).” Micah 5:2
“In the beginning was the Word (Jesus Christ), and the Word was with God, and the Word was God …All things were made by him (Creator); and without him was not any thing made that was made…He was in the world, and the world was made by him…And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us…” John 1:1,2,10,14
CONTRARY TO WHAT FALSE RELIGIONS TEACH, JESUS CHRIST WAS NOT A MAN BECOMING GOD OR JUST A GOD AMONG OTHER “GODS.” NO, HE IS THE ONE TRUE GOD, the only God, “the Almighty,” WHO BECAME MAN – TO REDEEM MAN! (JOHN 1; Revelation 1:8, etc.)
“And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.” John 3:13
Of Christ distinctly, Colossians 1 reveals that Jesus Christ is the Creator and divine Sustainer of all that exists:
“For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: 17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.” Colossians 1:16-17
Jesus Christ made Himself “equal with God” because He is God!
“Therefore the Jews sought to kill him because he…said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.” John 5:18
“Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.” John 8:58
Before Abraham, Jesus Christ existed because He is eternal so He has no beginning nor ending. He dwelt with the Father from eternity past.
“How many generations after Abraham was Jesus?”
“In Matthew’s Gospel there are 41 generations from Abraham to Jesus. Matthew demonstrated that there were 14 generations (see Matthew 1:17): from Abraham to David; from David to Josiah; from Josiah to Jesus.” unknown
“How many years from Adam until Jesus?”
“Many believe that Jesus was born somewhere around 2 BCE. If we deduce the number, we got 4002 years between the creation of Adam and the birth of Jesus Christ. If others have a different number it would be alright, but basically the span in between would still be around 4000 years.” unknown
“The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man makest thyself God.” John 10:33
The divinity of Jesus Christ is an essential cornerstone doctrine of the Christian faith – without which no man can be saved.
The rebellious Jews were actually attempting to stone Jesus for identifying Himself as God Almighty – the “Christ,” “the Son of God” (John 10:24-25,36). Read John 10:22-42. The Jews knew from the OT Scriptures that the Messiah would be divine, yet were in unbelief that this Jesus from Nazareth was their long awaited Messiah.
ANY person who denies the divinity of and limits Jesus Christ as being “the Son of God” (and that He is)…. needs to be saved. “The spirit of antichrist” is upon any person who has denied Christ (1 John 4:3). Such a person is a lost soul. Jesus being the Son of God in no way negates that He is God “Almighty” (Revelation 1:8). See 1 John 2:22-23.
If you don’t believe the RECORD of Scripture that Jesus Christ is IMMANUEL, GOD with us, you are an antichrist. Repent. Isaiah 7:14; 9:6-7; Matthew 1:23; John 8:24; 1 Timothy 3:16; John 1:1-18; Colossians 1:16-18, etc. We are told that the Christ would be born of a virgin in Bethlehem and would be Immanuel, GOD with us (Micah 5:2).
“Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.” 1 John 2:22
Those who seek to reduce Jesus Christ to a mere man, to over humanize the Son of God, do so in order to justify themselves and deny His holy judgment and standard they will come under. And yet the Bible promises us that “And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: 28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation” (Hebrews 9:27-28).
“The deity of Christ is being stripped out of the hearts of modern day Christians. They are beginning to humanize Him and make Him more like us! He has become like a pal who laughs off sin. One who is non offensive, loves us unconditionally with no expectation of change. This view takes the fear of God right out of people’s hearts. They no longer see Him as having the power to send them to hell. Because He is now this sweet, non judgmental man who would never judge them. He has been taken off the throne of heaven and they have put themselves there in God’s place. And the whole purpose is so they can live as they please with no threat of being judged by a holy, righteous, all powerful God. ‘It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.’ Hebrews 10:31” Karen Cochran
“I came forth from the Father, and am come into the world: again, I leave the world, and go to the Father.” John 16:28
“And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.” John 17:5
“And Thomas answered and said unto him (Jesus), My Lord and my God.” John 20:28
“…Christ Jesus: Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God.” Philippians 2:5,6 (Jesus Christ is “equal with God” – on the same level – God Almighty, divine.)
“…God was manifest in the flesh…believed on in the world, received up into glory.” 1 Timothy 3:16
“For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: these three are one (there are three distinct, divine Persons in the Godhead and they are ‘one’ in substance and unity).” 1 John 5:7
“…Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.” 1 John 5:20,21
“I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.” Revelation 1:8
GOD CAME TO THE EARTH TO RESCUE MANKIND FROM CERTAIN DESTRUCTION:
“And the Word (Jesus Christ) was made flesh, and dwelt (pitched His tent) among us.” John 1:14
At the Father’s appointed time in history, Jesus Christ laid aside His divine form and “took upon him the form of a servant.” See Philippians 2:5-8. The eternal Word “took part” of human flesh by being born of a virgin in an earthly body like we now live in, so that He could pay the price for our sins (Hebrews 2:14, 15). Jesus became a man to redeem mankind. One of Jesus’ titles, Son of man, means God’s man to redeem man. You must closely study Hebrews 2:14, 15 for clear understanding.
“And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins… and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, GOD with us.” Matthew 1:21-23
IF YOU DENY THAT JESUS CHRIST IS GOD “ALMIGHTY” (Revelation 1:8), you have called God a liar, are not saved, and are an antichrist. Jesus Christ, the eternal Word of God, is “Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us” (Matthew 1:23).
“Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.” Matthew 1:23
Anyone who rejects the “record that God gave of his Son,” of Jesus Christ, given us in the Bible, is an antichrist (1 John 5:10).
“Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ (Messiah)? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. 23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.” 1 John 2:22-23
And the Messiah, the Son of God, was foretold to be “The Mighty GOD” and “God with us” (Isaiah 7:14; 9:6,7; Matthew 1:23).
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Salvation is Not a One-Time Experience but a Lifelong Walk [podcast]

WE’VE BEEN LIED TO!
“And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:” Revelation 2:26
Christ’s work is finished, not yours (John 19:30). According to Holy Scripture, if you’ve been truly born again, you must abide in Christ, remain in Him, endure to the end or you will be cast into the fires of eternal damnation (John 15:6; Matthew 10:22; 24:13, etc.).
“Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.” Revelation 2:10
Enduring “to the end” is a condition for ultimately being in Heaven with the LORD.
“And ye shall be hated of all men for my name’s sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.” Matthew 10:22
The LORD Jesus and His apostles never once used the words “once saved always saved” or “eternal security.” So, who’s lying? What they did teach contradicts such a notion.
Who did Jesus promise is going to be “saved”?
“And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. 12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold. 13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.” Matthew 24:11-13
You MUST “walk in the light” of truth to the end of your life on earth to be with Jesus eternally (1 John 1:7). Only THEN will you be eternally secure!
“But IF we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.” 1 John 1:7
Since when is obedience to the truth legalism or works salvation?
“He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.” 1 John 2:4
Actually, if a person doesn’t have the fruit of good works in their life, it’s because either they have not yet truly been saved or due to their falling away (1 Timothy 4:1; 2 Peter 2:20-21, etc.).
“They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.” Titus 1:16
Who’s Going to Heaven and Who’s Not?
“Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.” Matthew 7:21
Who’s going to be with Christ eternally according to the Son of God?
“These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.” Revelation 17:14
Those who are “called, and chosen, and faithful.” God calls and chooses “ALL men to be saved” and yet it’s only those who repent, become converted and endure to the end (“faithful”) who will reign with Him eternally (Matthew 10:22; 24:13; 1 Timothy 2:4). He calls and desires all men to be saved and yet He will only save those who obey Him by repenting and putting their faith in Christ.
EVER WONDER why the OSAS adherent is often extremely vigorous about defending the unconditional eternal security sham he has bought into? What’s at stake for him? Why does he defend this teaching that has no ground in Scripture and that he has learned of men and devils?
The lame, refuses-to-take-personal-responsibility eternal securist hides behind his false facade that nothing he does including sin or doesn’t do affects or is related to his “relationship” with Christ. The word “fruit” appears 67 times in the New Testament canon. So is fruit important to the LORD? Good fruit, which includes good works doesn’t save us but it’s the clear proof that we know Him who came to do us and all mankind good by dying to bring us back to God (John 3:16).
PEOPLE who are hiding behind this satanic lie told by the serpent in the Garden become immediately irate and infuriated when the thin sham veneer of their pretention and self-preservation is pulled open by the truth. The light of truth shines into their darkened hearts. These want nothing at all to do with personal responsibility (Titus 1:16). They don’t care what the Bible teaches. They don’t want their little “eternal security” “I’m saved no matter what” myth busted because they are rebels at heart and refuse to truly surrender – which is what true repentance involves.
We need not kid ourselves, the fruit of our lives demonstrates clearly to God and man who we really are. Jesus taught “For EVERY tree is known by his own fruit. For of thorns men do not gather figs, nor of a bramble bush gather they grapes.” (Luke 6:44) …. “Even a child is known by his doings (works), whether his work be pure, and whether it be right.” (Proverbs 20:11)
The Calvinist and eternal securist wants to put the whole responsibility of salvation upon God because he wants no part of personal responsibility to “Be ye holy; for I am holy.” (1 Peter 1:15-16) This is cowardly is it not? “Fearful” in Revelation 21:8 means cowardly and the lake of fire awaits all who are.
“But as he which hath called you is holy, so be ye holy in all manner of conversation; 16 Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy.” 1 Peter 1:15-16
If you die in sin, HELL is where you end up in (Ezekiel 33:12-13).
What does Hebrews 12:14 guarantee us?
“Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord.” Hebrews 12:14
God sent His Son to pay the full price “for the sins of THE WHOLE WORLD” and those He calls and chooses must be “faithful” or full of faith “to the end” or they will be shut out of the eternal kingdom just as the five foolish virgins were who ran out of oil due to neglecting fellowship with the Bridegroom (Jesus) (1 John 2:2; Revelation 17:14; Mathew 10:22; 24:13). See Matthew 25:1-13.
Explain why we think a bride to be can be unfaithful, commit adultery, fornicate, just before the wedding, and still be accepted as the bride at her scheduled wedding. Delusional. If such were the case, why is this not illustrated, why does it contradict Jesus’ parable of the 10 virgins in Matthew 25:1-13?
If we don’t truly repent and become “honest” with the whole counsel of God’s Word and rather live our one life on lies, namely, the myth that we are “eternally secure”, we shall find ourselves in the domain of the damned, from which we shall never escape (Luke 8:11-15).
Anyone Going to Argue with Jesus?
Jesus taught us that one who is in Him (saved) must abide or remain in Him or that person will be “cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned (hell).”
“I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman. 2 Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit. 3 Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you. 4 Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me. 5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing. 6 If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned (hell).” John 15:1-6
Yes, salvation begins in the life of the sinner who has been drawn in and found by Christ and chooses to repent and put His faith in Jesus (John 1:12; 6:47; Acts 16:31; 20:21; Romans 3-5; Ephesians 2:8-9, etc.). Initial salvation is instant and yet that’s not the end of it … according to the record of the New Testament Scriptures. Christ and His holy apostles never spoke in terms of salvation being a one-time done deal.
Paul makes it clear that saving grace does NOT abound toward, in the life of any person who has been saved and yet is now living outside of Christ’s stated will, His Word.
“What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? 2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?” Romans 6:1-2
It’s time to get into the Word friends and cease to walk in delusions.
What is the agent that will cleanse the Great Tribulation saints? (Revelation 7:14) – “And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.”
The washing we are to receive of God by the cleansing blood of Jesus is not a one-time event but rather a lifelong walk/experience. Such is our walk with Christ – it’s an abiding relationship and to abide means to remain (John 15:1-6). And if we don’t remain in Him – we shall be “cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.” (John 15:6) (more on this verse in a moment)
“But IF IF IF IF we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.” 1 John 1:7
There are conditions for continuing to remain, to abide in Christ’s saving grace. Only counterfeits refuse to acknowledge this. They want no part with personal repentance, laying down their lives in this fleeting world, and truly following Jesus. No, they want the crown but not the cross. They don’t love Jesus enough to truly serve Him and so they buy into diabolical systems like the heretical “eternal security” or calvinistic systems.
The vast majority of pastors and writers today are in gross darkness and treat salvation as a one-time event instead of an abiding, a remaining walk with Christ “to the end” of our lives (Matthew 10:22; 24:13; John 15:1-6; Col. 1:23; Heb. 3:6, 12-15; 10:26-39, etc.). Many have espoused these lies because they have not chosen to get diligently and deeply into God’s Word for themselves but have rather followed other men’s selective line through Scripture. Those who aren’t diligently studying God’s Word daily are “not valiant for the truth” and will therefore be turned over to delusion and ultimately damned (Jer. 9:3; 2 Thess. 2:10-12).
“And they bend their tongues like their bow for lies (they go to the furthest lengths to embrace lies): but they are not valiant for the truth upon the earth; for they proceed from evil to evil, and they know not me, saith the LORD.” Jeremiah 9:3
Those who do not love divine truth (the Holy Scriptures) manifest plainly that they do not love He who is “the truth.” (John 14:6) God takes that personally and will actually help or assist in their delusions and damnation.
“And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.” 2 Thessalonians 2:10-12
God is able and will keep all who trust Him to the end and do not deny Him:
“Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy, 25 To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.” Jude 24-25
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FEEDBACK:
——- FROM Shannon Cook: “To the “once saved always saved theorists”
5 He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not “blot out” his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.
For something to be “blotted out” (i.e. removed) it would had to have been there in order to be “blotted out” which totally contradicts the theory of “once saved always saved.”
So, who is saved?
13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
Consider the warning to the church of Ephesus:
4 Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast “left thy first love.”
5 Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and REPENT, and do they first works;[or else] I will come into thee quickly, and remove thy candlestick out of his place, expect thou repent.
Laodicean Warning:
“And unto the angel of the church of Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, [the faithful and true witness], the beginning of the creation of God. 15 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot,I would thou wert hot or cold. 16 [So then] BECAUSE thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot,I will spue thee out of my mouth.” Revelation 3:14-16 pass it on – Heaven Guaranteed to all who have Received Jesus?
Amen, never to depart from the Christ, he shall walk with us as we endure till the end!
“I will never leave thee nor forsake thee.” Hebrews 13:5 Not never will you leave me nor forsake me. We’re sheep, we have natural, fleshly tendency to wander. Ever reminding us how crucial it is to continuously follow the Christ.
6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.
7 If ye [endure] chastening, (there’s that word endure again) God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he that the father chasteneth not?
8 But if ye be without chastisement, whereof ALL are partakers, then ye are bastards,(illegitimate) and not sons. Hebrews 12:6-8
The elect of Christ have and will experience chastening, and no matter the discomfort in and through it, we always rejoice and know there’s purpose (to the glory of our Christ) as we “endure.”
– check this out – Will Everyone Jesus has Saved be in Heaven?
Reply Received:
“Where do I begin. Every person born of God, WILL be faithful. Even if they are faithless, He remains faithful because He can NOT deny Himself. We are HIDDEN in Christ, and seated with Him right now in the heavenlies. We have passed from death to LIFE. This is an event that is unchangeable. God causes it to occur and doesn’t change His mind. He adopts us. Permanently.
Context is everything. It is king. It determines what a passage actually means. Did you know Todd, that God has saved you forever? It’s great to be free and assured of that. Are you afraid He might not keep you to the end? It’s His desire and intent to do that, bro.
Reply Back:
We only have security in Christ AS we are abiding – remaining – in an intimate relationship with Him.
According to Jesus in John 15, “If a man abide (remain) not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire (hell), and they are burned.” (Jn. 15:6)
In order to receive final salvation, one must abide or remain in Christ (Jn. 15:5-6). There is no guarantee that God’s seed will “remain” in the person who is born again and later departs from the LORD.
What you are doing is simply spouting off what you have been taught of mere sinful men…. speaking of context, let’s look at the context of what you partially quoted, conveniently and selectively excluding the whole context:
2 Timothy 2:11-13
“It is a faithful saying: For if we be dead with him, we shall also live with him: If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us: If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself.” 2 Timothy 2:11-13
The person seeking to convince others of “once saved always saved” will misquote this text by saying that because “he (God) abideth faithful” He would never “deny us.” This is a distortion. Let’s read the verse again okay? The passage states that “if we deny him, he also will deny US.” The Word here tells us that “if we deny him, he also will deny US.” Does it get any clearer than this? Being honest with what the Bible says is essential to a clear conscience and to possessing the mind of Christ and true doctrine. Again, those who seek to make palatable the unconditional security teaching can be heard misquoting this text saying “He cannot deny us.” Is that what verse 13 says? No. It says “He cannot deny HIMSELF.” This passage tells us that He “will deny us” if we “deny him” and that “He cannot deny Himself,” not us. In this Bible passage we see that the LORD “abideth faithful”to Himself and to those who do not deny Him. Didn’t Jesus tell us to “deny” ourselves and that if we were “ashamed” of Him or His words He would be “ashamed” of us? See Luke 9:23-24 and Mark 8:34-38.
Below is a classic perversion of this very passage of Scripture. I read this on the internet. The persuasion intended by the person who wrote this is to convince people of something the Bible simply never puts forth.
“If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself.” 2 Timothy 2:13 – God wants you to know for sure that you cannot lose it (salvation) under any circumstance whatsoever, even in the worse scenario. The first part of the verse above says that we can come to a state of mind that we do not believe in God anymore. But, the second says that He will remain faithful if that happens…God cannot deny what He said, because God cannot lie! (Hebrews 6:18 KJV AV1611) He promised to keep us eternally secure and He will remain faithful in that promise even if we ‘believe not.’ Another possible way of looking at ‘he cannot deny himself’ is that we are one in Him. If He was not faithful in His promise, He would be denying himself of eternal security, that is, He would be casting part of himself in eternal damnation in the lake of fire.” J. A.
First off, if in fact as J.A. supposes, “God wants you to know for sure that you cannot lose it (salvation) under any circumstance whatsoever, even in the worse scenario,” then why did God Himself warn His very own people throughout His Word concerning the danger of:
• “Departing from the living God” (Heb. 3:12-15)
• Losing the reward of Heaven for turning back into sin after being saved (Ezek. 33:12-13; 2 Pet. 2:20-21)
• “Falling away” (Lk. 8:13; 2 Thes. 2:3)
• “Having damnation, because they have cast off their first faith” (1 Tim. 5:12)
• Being “cut off” (Rom. 11:19-23)
• Being forsaken of Him (2 Chron. 15:2; Ezra 8:22; 2 Tim. 2:12)
• Being blotted out of the book of life (Exod. 32:33; Ps. 69:32; Rev. 3:5; 22:18-19)
The fact that God remains faithful in no way predicts or determines whether individuals will partake of His plan of salvation. His faithfulness in no way forces men to remain faithful (abide), nor does it disable the Almighty from rendering a due reward of eternal judgment upon those who do not meet His requirements/conditions. This is a truth completely ignored by those who embrace the unscriptural notion of an unconditional eternal security.
“For what if some did not believe? shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect? God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar …” Romans 3:3-4
All sin will be accounted for – one way or the other, and this is the reason for the Judgment Thrones to come (Exod. 34:7; Rom. 14:12-14; Rev. 20:11-15). This should shine yet a brighter light upon the glorious Gospel salvation Jesus Christ wrought for His people and how we can “come boldly” with our sins to His holy throne of grace to receive grace and mercy in time of need (Heb. 4:14-16).
It seems to me, after listening to hundreds of those who believe in an unconditional eternal security, that some people believe that their theology is going to change the unchanging, immutable God (Rom. 3:3-4; James 1:17). The twisting of Scripture, instead of “rightly dividing the word of truth” is done to one’s “own destruction.” (2 Cor. 2:17; 2 Tim. 2:15; 2 Pet. 3:16-17) The disciple of Jesus Christ must be intent upon studying to show himself “approved unto God,” not men, and therefore be able to “rightly” divide “the word of truth.” (2 Tim. 2:15) The person who does not diligently study and know God’s Word, stands to be deluded by the many false teachings circulated in the church world.
What happens if a saved person does not obey and remain faithful to God? Those who do not choose to persevere in saving faith:
• Possess “an evil heart of unbelief” (Heb. 3:12)
• Depart from the living God (Heb. 3:12)
• Cannot and do not please God (Heb. 11)
• Depart from the faith through “doctrines of devils” (1 Tim. 4:1-6)
• “Turn away their ears from the truth” and are “turned unto fables” (2 Tim. 4:4)
• Cannot enter into His rest or presence (Heb. 3:19; 4:6, 11)
• Are “broken off” from the LORD (Rom. 11:20)
• The “unbelieving…shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone …” (Rev. 21:8, 27)
The Bible never guarantees that all Christ saves will automatically “endure to the end” which Jesus says is essential to ultimately being saved into Heaven when speaking to His very own people (Matt. 10:22; 24:13). Christ Himself invented the term “fall away” when speaking of those who would “believe” and be saved and not continue with Him (Lk. 8:13).
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