Beware of the Denial of Christ’s Exclusivity and Atonement and the No-Sinful-Nature Heresy and Heretics
Does mankind have a sin nature, a bent toward evil? If so, where did that come from? What really happened at the fall? Can fallen mankind, by his own “natural ability”, self-will to overcome all sin? If so, WHY did Jesus come? (Galatians 2:21) | Charles Finney was a false teacher.
As a side, note: I’ve had people disown me for exposing Charles Finney which seems to a cult-like indoctrination and the corresponding devils (demons) that come with espousing “doctrines of devils.” Remember that “seducing spirits and doctrines of devils” are inseparable. Any person who believes a doctrine of devils has evil seducing spirit, a demon in his/her life.
“Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; 2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;” 1 Timothy 4:1-2
No one is guilty for someone else’s sin. God holds each individual guilty, fully responsible for their own sin (Ezekiel 18). Yet that in no way negates or changes the fact that something bad happened when man sinned against God in the Garden. If so, rip Romans 3, 5, and 7 out of your Bible. To deny such, to ignore such is the path to delusionment. This has tripped up many otherwise truth-seeking people today. The main source of this poison has come through the heretical ministries of men like Charles Finney.
“Salvation is the work of man.” Charles Finney
The no-sin-nature (“old man“, “flesh”)-to-crucify heresy is just another cross-less lie. It’s peddled by those who refuse to die and who pretend to be sinless perfection by means of their own “natural ability.” Beware of these antichrists.
If there were no inherent sinful bend, bent, iniquitous nature…. WHY O WHY would Paul have repeatedly taught that Christ’s disciples must “keep under” their “body” or flesh, the old man? (1 Corinthians 9:27) Why the cross if there is nothing to daily crucify? Someone is lying and it’s not Jesus and His holy apostles. Beware. Think biblically. | Judgment to Come Necessitates the Crucified Life [podcast]
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“My question is if Ezekiel says the sins of the father are not the sins of the son and vice versa how does God count Adam’s sin against us?”
REPLY:
No, Ezekiel says the sins of the father are not the responsibility of the son and vice versa. That’s different. In other words the sins the father chooses to commit or walk in he shall long bear the judgment for. God says in Ezekiel 18:4 that each individual soul is HIS and will be rewarded according to the choices he makes while on earth. The father will not give account for the son nor the son for the father. Read Ezekiel 18. There were wicked kings with good children such as wicked king Abijam vs his son Asa who chose to do right. 1 Kings 15.
Ezekiel 18 is the same teaching as this:
The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin.” Deuteronomy 24:16
Have you read Romans 5 lately? v12, 18-19
“For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.” 1 Corinthians 15:22
All men are born after Adam and then choose Christ or to reject Him. Matthew 12:30; Mark 16:16, etc.
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“So, you believe that God has made us fallen? Back to my point, why IF we are made perfect by God Ps 139 then how are we born into a sinful nature? It is either constituted or practiced unto unto total depravity.
My other point was that the moral neutrality that God has given us at birth with the knowledge of good and evil swirling all round us. The weakness of the flesh to temptation and then sin, and then death is easily revealed.”
REPLY:
I would exhort you to put off the things you’ve learned and read Romans 7 afresh. Also Galatians 5:17-18. Call it what you wish, something is raging within, there is a war within. The Bible calls it the flesh, the old man which can only be put off by the crucified life (Romans 6; 8:11-14).
‘For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. 18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.’ Galatians 5:17-18
Why would Jesus mandate self must be denied if there were nothing to deny, to be crucified? (Luke 9:23-24)
You keep saying or asking if I believe God made us fallen. Sorry but I have repeatedly stated that God made us perfect. Genesis 1:31; Eccl 7:29 etc. Of his own God-given free will, man chose to sin against God – all by himself (Genesis 6:5, 12; Romans 3; James 1:13-15, etc.).
You don’t seem to realize that there was a fall in sin-less paradise, in the Garden. And you won’t until read Romans 3 and 5 and believe it. Begin with a prayer, asking the LORD to remove the poison you’ve been indoctrinated with by wicked men such as Charles Finney. v12, 18-19 of Romans 5 for sure.
What happened at the fall? Is the wages of sin not death? Romans 6:23 In the divine economy of God who is “Holy, holy, holy,” does sin not have a profound effect? Are you denying that sin affected mankind? Such would be diametrically opposed to and against the clear teaching of Romans 3, 5, 7.
You are only half way to the truth with the idea of “moral neutrality.” Such would deny lots of what Scripture informs us of concerning our heart being “only evil continually,” “desperately wicked,” etc. Genesis 6:5, 12; Jeremiah 17:9
Those who do not study and know God’s Word thoroughly are susceptible to being deceived by the “many false prophets” that “are gone out into the world” (1 John 4:1). Example: There’s a group of heretics that run around boldly declaring the lie that there is no sinful bent in believers. Nonsense. Mike Desario and Charles Finney were both false teachers.
These dialogues should help clear up the misconceptions and deceptions of those who have been beguiled into this evil theology which denies Christ’s uniqueness, atonement, mankind’s fallen sinful state, and what God has said about fallen mankind.
Lots of gullible dupes buying this package. Beware! Charles Finney’s falsehoods are being regurgitated. This system of falsehood is on the rise. Due to these heresies showing their ugly head as of the last few years, we have addressed this extensively. Here’s a new post with an intriguing dialogue that is sure to clue you in to the way these people have believed and been deceived. Where is your Christology friends? – Please share this page to help others.
SELF-RIGHTEOUS DEVILS will be in hell first according to Christ (Matthew 21:31)! There are lots of novices acting like they have the answers because they learned their heresies from now-in-hell wolves like Mike Desario and Charles Finney. Beware. These are the vilest of devils.
YES God requires genuine faith which always produces good works and yet, GOD ALONE SAVES US – not our own good works! Rightly divide! Synthesize the whole truth! (2 Timothy 2:15)
Some deny that there is a flesh nature to be crucified. Utter heresy.
God made us one way, perfect. But then we sinned and something bad happened.
“And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.” Genesis 1:31
God made mankind and said “it was very good.” Then man sinned and incurred death (Ecclesiastes 7:29; Romans 5:18-19). The details of the curse that came upon mankind when Adam and Eve sinned against God, are given to us in Genesis 3. Death came into man at the fall. Something happened, and it wasn’t good. Read Romans 7.
“Lo, this only have I found, that God hath made man upright; but they have sought out many inventions.” Ecclesiastes 7:29
God made us perfect but WE chose sin and fell and there are consequences for sin, right? And there’s also salvation, redemption, regeneration, choice, the cross, victory that we can choose to receive and walk in.
“Total depravity” is a false doctrine of calvinism which says “we are so sinful and we have no choice about anything. We have no ability to turn to God in repentance and faith to be redeemed, regenerated, made new creatures, temples of the Holy Spirit in Christ.” False.
We have the choice, the privilege to choose Christ and His cross to overcome all depravity, sin.
The Word says things like we are “desperately wicked” right? See Jeremiah 17:9. How about Genesis 6:5, 12 too, right? There’s Romans 3, 5, 6, 7 for the effects of sin, and 8 for the victory of Christ.
The no-sin-nature people are missing the cross. The Mike Desario’s, the Charles Finney’s, and the Jesse Morrell’s of the world peddle the no-sin-nature heresy and also do not preach the cross, the crucified life. They rag on endlessly about “stopping all sin” but never mention the crucified life which is the only divine prescription for overcoming sin (Romans 6, etc.). That alone makes them false, peddlers of “another gospel” (Galatians 1:6-9). This is why they can’t understand this. They do not realize that God gave us the solution to this sin bent (iniquity), this inherent in fallen man sin – and that answer is the crucified life which is at the heart of the original Gospel.
In my understanding…. the no-sin-nature doctrine does not stand the test of the whole counsel of God’s Word. It is vehemently peddled by some today (Proverbs 14:12).
Saints, we cannot possibly begin to appreciate this “so great salvation” that is Christ until we understand how lost, helpless, and alienated we were in our sin (Ephesians 2:1-10; Hebrews 2:3). We must study to understand the biblical doctrine of inherent sin, fallen mankind, and the holiness of God …. in order to begin to be able to appreciate the redemption that is in Jesus Christ.
Sin sure is a living entity called the “old man” which is ever with us and must be daily crucified – put to death (Romans 6; Colossians 3:9-10). If there were nothing to “put off” why would the LORD have told us to do so, so often? Read Romans 3, 5-7 afresh, carefully.
If there were nothing to “put off,” this divine command would not exist (Ephesians 4:22; Colossians 3:8-9). All the Scriptures on the cross, the crucified life, would be useless if there were nothing to crucify – there would be no cross to “take up” which would mean we call Jesus a lunatic and liar for having commanded us to take up the cross, to live a crucified life (Luke 9:23-24; 14:27).
Fallen man’s utter depravity and need for the saving mercy of Jesus Christ!
How can we possibly begin to understand and appreciate why Jesus came to the earth to die if we still see ourselves as anything except “deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked” before a holy God? See Isaiah 6:3; Jeremiah 17:9; Romans 7:18; Revelation 4:8.
Mankind’s fallen state:
“The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?” Jeremiah 17:9
The heart of the human problem is the problem of the human heart.
What do we truly deserve in and of ourselves, being that “all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags” (Isaiah 64:6)?
“But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.” Isaiah 64:6
“O wretched man that I AM” sounds like he’s presently dealing with the “old man” which must be perpetually crucified with Christ in this life – which is a test of who we truly love, self or the Savior (Romans 7:18, 24). This discourse in chapter 7 is leading to the following ultimate solution for sin….
“For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God. 20 For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope, 21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God. 22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.” Romans 8:19-21
Acknowledging that the Bible says there’s a war between the new creature and the tendency to sin in no way means we are captive to it. NO! We have been given complete victory over it through Christ and doing what He told us to do “daily” – take up the cross and follow Him (Luke 9:23-24; Romans 6; 1 Corinthians 15:57; 1 John 5:4-5, etc.).
Because they don’t view the old man as a sinful nature, those who teach this “no sin nature heresy” don’t see the need to crucify it as Scripture commands repeatedly.
“By nature through the fall of Adam, are we the children of wrath, heirs of the vengeance of God by birth, yea, and from our conception. And we have fellowship with the damned devils, under the power of darkness and rule of Satan, while we are yet in our mother’s wombs; and though we shew not forth the fruits of sin [as soon as we are born] yet are we full of the natural poison, whereof all sinful deeds spring, and cannot but sin outwards, (be we never so young,) [as soon as we be able to work,] if occasion be given: for our nature is to do sin, as is the nature of a serpent to sting… By grace (that is to say, by favour) we are plucked out of Adam, the ground of all evil, and grafted in Christ, the root of all goodness.” William Tyndale, A Pathway into the Holy Scripture
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“I don’t claim to know every secret of God or of human nature and I could even be wrong about some things. But I know this. I will never say that Christ did not come in the flesh (1 John 4:2). For He was made in every way like us (Heb 2:17) Tempted in all points like us (Heb 4:15) and yet without sin.”
REPLY:
Yes but you are doing the same thing (equivalent) by denying His atonement … which is the only atonement. “Atonement” is huge with God and appears 81 times in Scripture. The OT references were pointing to Christ who was to come – “And not only so, but we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received the ATONEMENT” (Romans 5:11).
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“So we have the same flesh as He had. I think we create our own Old Man that needs to be put off.”
REPLY:
Jesus Christ is unique in all of history. He had no earthly father which is the way contamination of sin is transferred via the blood. Study the significance of the phrase “only begotten Son” and you will begin seeing the uniqueness of Christ. He was all God and all man – sinless due to His Father and exercising His will to please Him alone. We though have earthly, sinful fathers whereby death passed upon us (Romans 5). Read Romans 5. You are missing some vital things in your body of truth.
Jesus was tempted and had a personal will (Luke 22:42), but He was more than just a man and this is what the Bible calls “the mystery of godliness.” Read 1 Timothy 3:16 and 6:15-16 closely.
You “think”? Don’t you have a Bible? “Let God be true and EVERY man a liar,” beginning with yourself. Your theology is a concoction at this point – a mixed bag of confusion.
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“On the other hand I can point out sin to the lost and put the blame solely on the sinner and persuade men knowing the fear of God myself.”
REPLY:
You have sinned and so have I. We must beware of self-righteousness which was the sin of the hell bound Pharisees. This no-sin-nature heresy seems to foster self-righteousness and pride in self… Jesus says that the harlots will be in Heaven before the self-righteous (Matthew 21:31). What I mean by “sin nature” is the potential, inclination, and temptation to sin.
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“I’m not emailing you to support Finney. I’m emailing you because I work with the woman who is Lutheran and I know that she is deceived. I gave her a gospel tract that talked about how Jesus saves FROM sin, not IN sin. And one of her excuses was that she had a sinful nature. In other words she defined ‘sinful nature’ as a permanent thing that was inescapable. You define the term as escapable.
I become frustrated at times when I hear nominal Christians with an attitude that they can’t escape a nature they were born with or that they are saved no matter what they do. I’m frustrated out of love for their souls and not to prove some selfish doctrine. I hope you can forgive me if I have made you stumble in any way.
I was hoping to get some insight into someone who held to ‘sinful nature’ and yet believed in crucifying the flesh with its passions and desires.
In terms of my own beliefs I don’t totally subscribe to any theologian, whether it be Finney, Augustine, Edwards, Grudem, Luther, Wesley, Spurgeon, etc.. I feel it is important to study entire church history because it helps me understand where people are coming from.
As far as my own beliefs I believe Christ has freed me from the bondage that I sold myself into. It’s nothing more or less than that.
Again I call anyone a brother who worships Christ in spirit and truth.
I just wanted to poke a bit and see what you thought. Thank you for your videos on YouTube and I appreciate your time.”
REPLY:
God saves first – He regenerates. Then sin is forgiven and He grants His power to overcome. Salvation is not only about sin but about salvaging the relationship between Himself and mankind. The woman taken in adultery was first and foremost forgiven by Christ and THEN and only THEN told to “go and sin no more” (John 8). You have learned from deceived men to reduce Christ’s salvation to only overcoming sin which has taken the worship focus away from Him (Colossians 2:18-19). The spirit of antichrist is behind this. God is not interested in you feigning to be overcoming sin if you are not engaging in an abiding cross relationship with Him (John 15). Salvation is about restored relationship and fellowship with the Father and Son and not only about the removal of sin although that is essential to the reconciliation of that vital relationship (Colossians 1:12-14).
You said: “she defined ‘sinful nature’ as a permanent thing that was inescapable.” You define the term as escapable.” I define it as being “present” and essential to crucify via that “daily” cross Jesus commanded (Luke 9:23-24). But you are denying it against the clear teaching of Scripture. Paul the apostle wrote: “I find then a law, that, when I would do good, EVIL ISSSSS PRESENT WITH ME” (Romans 7:21). “Is” here makes it plain that after Paul’s conversion, sin was still “present” with him and had to be “put under” or mortified (Romans 6:-8; 1 Corinthians 9:27).
I agree that Calvinistic theology is completely false and yet, we cannot base truth on what others are falsely teaching. Truth is God’s Word (John 17:17), and we must honestly and objectively engage in “rightly dividing” it by thorough “study” of it (2 Timothy 2:15). What you are saying is clearly contradicting known truth. The sinful nature is only escapable at death. As long as we are in the body, we shall be tempted to conform to that evil nature, and given the opportunity to put it off (“put off the old man” and to “put on the new man”) (Ephesians 4:22-24; Col. 3:5-10). Listen closely to Paul here: – “For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time (including mortifying the sinful nature/flesh-v. 13) are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us. 19 For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God. 20 For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope, 21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God. 22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain (under the curse caused by man’s sin) together until now. 23 And not only they (the lost), but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.” Romans 8:18-23
This passage above further makes it crystal clear that we, “which have the firstfruits of the Spirit,” are groaning and travailing under sin’s gravity, “waiting for the manifestation of the sons of God” when we die or Christ returns. It’s then when “4 God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away. 5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful” (Revelation 21:4-5).
Romans 8:21 says that “the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption” and in the context of this passage, that’s clearly in eternity, not now.
Here’s your problem – you are basing your doctrine on 1) what you’ve heard from other mere men, and 2) what others are saying … instead of going only by the whole counsel of Scripture. You state: “I become frustrated at times when I hear nominal Christians with an attitude that they can’t escape a nature they were born with or that they are saved no matter what they do. I’m frustrated out of love for their souls and not to prove some selfish doctrine. I hope you can forgive me if I have made you stumble in any way.” First off, the LORD has blessed me to minister to individuals for 30 years now daily and I hear the same thing. No, I am not moved by this false system of theology and dealing with what people we minister to say (making excuses). The answer is not to deny what God’s Word clearly says is “present” with us (Romans 7:21), but rather to be instructed by the LORD and His holy apostles to “keep under” and to “crucify” and to “mortify the deeds of the body.” That’s God’s answer – not denying that evil is still present with us.
You said: “I was hoping to get some insight into someone who held to ‘sinful nature’ and yet believed in crucifying the flesh with its passions and desires.” This is correct actually – we have an evil nature and it must be daily mortified.
It is my opinion that you are being routed by the enemy by even giving place to and wasting time studying any person after Christ and His apostles. Let’s admit that we don’t even know God’s Word nearly as we should and could and so are wasting His precious time in our lives He gave us looking at what mere men said, taught, and believed. You said: “In terms of my own beliefs I don’t totally subscribe to any theologian, whether it be Finney, Augustine, Edwards, Gruden, Luther, Wesley, Spurgeon, etc. I feel it is important to study entire church history because it helps me understand where people are coming from.” ALL you need is God’s Word, and so reading, studying, and memorizing it bring ALL the answers (Psalms. 119:42; 2 Timothy 2:15; 3:15-17; 4:2-4; 1 Peter 3:15; 4:11; 2 Peter 1:3-4, 19-21, etc.).
Again, this is dangerous: “As far as my own beliefs I believe Christ has freed me from the bondage that I sold myself into. It’s nothing more or less than that.” If you have truly repented and put your faith in Christ (Acts 20:21), He regenerated you, made you a new creature in Christ, and gave you His “divine nature” (John 3:3, 7; Titus 3:5-7; 2 Corinthians 5:17-18; 2 Peter 1:3-4).
You seem humble and that’s a good place for us to be and to remain… teachable (Proverbs 1:5; 6:23; 15:32, etc.). He has much for us to learn.
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“One additional thought. I’m not sure how you arrived at the fact I subscribe to Charles Finney. I specifically said when we repent God puts us “In Christ” (kind of like being put into Noah’s Ark) and thus are sanctified through Christ and his faith and righteousness. Someone isn’t a Finneyist because they deny sinful nature. I see that someone is a Finneyist if they subscribe to his systematic theology, moral government etc.
I just read in the bible that David said “I am fearfully and wonderfully made” and that babies in the womb know neither good nor evil. And I see that people “go astray”, meaning that they leave of their own volition. And I believe that God forgives small children if they sin. 1 John2:12 I write unto you, little children, because your sins are forgiven you for his name’s sake.
Also I don’t subscribe to any atonement theory whatsoever. Subscribing to an atonement theory only divides the brethren. It’s a source of division only. I do believe Christ frees from the captivity of sin, and I know that’s no theory. I’ve felt it personally in my life.
And if your point of calling out Finney is to correct error of sanctification by works then I support you in that cause.”
REPLY:
You have bought into and are overreacting to the error of others (mainly Calvinists) and thereby make an equally damaging, false error yourself and are openly denying Christ the only Redeemer.
Where did you get this teaching? It came from man and not God. You didn’t learn this from just and only reading Scripture. I know you say you just read the Bible but I am certain you have arrived at this via some man or mere men. You are forcing Scripture to say what you have concluded, holding to your tradition and setting God’s Word aside (Mark 7:6-9). You are allowing your tradition to trump Scripture.
What does “fearfully and wonderfully made” really mean? Does that cancel the meaning and revealed divine truth of other Scriptures? No. After God created man He said it was “good” and yet that was BEFORE man fell. After man fell He says we are “corrupt,” and “desperately wicked,” and have sinned against Him and are shown to be (concluded) guilty (Romans 3:19; 11:32). Without Christ’s “regeneration” (“born again”) we are “dead in trespasses and sins” and by “NATURE” the children of wrath (Ephesians 2:1-3; Titus 3:2-7).
Paul used the phrase “MYSTERY of iniquity” and so perhaps there is a mystery. Romans 7 may lend to that thought also. There IS a struggle within which seems to indicate two, not one nature – one that must be crucified and dominated by the power of the Spirit of God (Galatians 5:17-18; Romans 8:13; 1 Corinthians 9:27). Paul didn’t say “O wretched man that I WAS” but rather “O wretched man that I AM” (Romans 7:24). This seems to further demonstrate that he still had an evil nature to overcome – to mortify daily. That’s the whole purpose of the daily cross – so that the LORD will increase and we decrease (John 3:3o). It seems clear from Scripture that we should cease to deny the sin nature and simply obey God’s Word by crucifying it daily (Luke 9:23-24). We as His children have a personal will as even Jesus did and must choose His will over ours – “not MY will but thine be done” (Luke 22:42). Jesus had a will and we have a will – which we all choose to exercise as we choose in obeying or disobeying God.
Are you going to deny the war Paul spoke of? “For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.”
“But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.” Galatians 5:17-18
“The truth is that while Christ dwells in the believer’s new nature, He has strong competition from the believer’s old nature. The warfare between the old and the new goes on continually in most believers.” AW Tozer
To overlook the reality of this war within is to reveal our limited view of the full counsel of Scripture or refusal to acknowledge it. I want to encourage you to take a step back prayerfully to seek the LORD’s face – asking Him that your heart would be established with His grace and not with meats (Hebrews 13:9; Ezekiel 36:24-26).
Now I am wondering if you are truly saved and I say that with all carefulness and concern. To quote you: “Also I don’t subscribe to any atonement theory whatsoever. Subscribing to an atonement theory only divides the brethren. It’s a source of division only. I do believe Christ frees from the captivity of sin, and I know that’s no theory. I’ve felt it personally in my life.”
Atonement is a “theory”? Forget dividing the brethren – you are denying Christ wholesale and calling God a liar. You are able to save yourself and atone for yourself? So, God sent His only begotten Son in vain? There was no need for at-one-ment? This is exactly what Finney taught and is antichrist – it exes out Christ, says that “Christ is dead in vain” (Galatians 2:21). It says that man can make his own way to God and that overcoming sin is the pinnacle of being right with God instead of Christ being the only Mediator between God and man. The Bible teaches us that salvation is in a Person – Jesus Christ – and not in what we can do to rid ourselves of sin. Such a notion replaces Christ with self (definition of antichrist) and makes us Luciferic. This is a deadly and damnable heresy – “even denying the Lord that bought them.” (2 Peter 2:1-3)
You said: “I do believe Christ frees from the captivity of sin, and I know that’s no theory. I’ve felt it personally in my life.” – So, what came first: 1) freedom from sin or 2) atonement and regeneration? Making you one with Him through regeneration/being born again and given a new nature – made a new creature in Christ? In your mind salvation is simply being freed “from the captivity of sin” and not in knowing and being known of God (John 15:14; 17:3; 1 Corinthians 8:3; Philippians 3:10). This is Gnosticism where personally knowing the LORD is subtly denied and replaced with mere head knowledge. You are reducing “salvation” to something far less than God reveals it to be by denying Christ right out of the picture which is the workings of “that spirit of antichrist” and “the spirit of error” (1 John 4:1-6).
It is my opinion that God is giving you the opportunity through this conversation to come to Him in honesty and sincere humility, returning to Him in repentance.
God sent His only begotten Son to be the only (exclusive) offering for fallen mankind’s sin to bring His atonement for mankind’s sin (Isaiah 53). The LORD Jesus Christ was the prophesied, exclusive Lamb of God who came to take away the sins of the world (Matthew 1:21; John 1:29). He alone made atonement and to teach that we have no sin to be atoned for is to deny Christ openly. Jesus alone “taste(d) death for every man” (Hebrews 2:9). Denying or feigning to overcome sin (a farce) without Jesus’ atonement and regeneration is brazen denial of the whole plan of God in sending His only begotten Son. This makes one lost and antichrist.
“For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; 24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: 25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation (atoning sacrifice) through faith in his blood (not faith in ourselves), to declare HIS righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; 26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus. 27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith. 28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.” Romans 3:23-28
God alone justifies and He made that exclusively through Christ Jesus, the only “propitiation” or atoning sacrifice for our sins. This is exactly what He depicted in Leviticus 16-17 with the scapegoat. He alone fulfilled this picture when He came as “THE Lamb of God” to take “away the SIN (not just the sins) of the world” (John 1:29). The singular use of “sin” here is telling.
If we are not born with a sinful nature, WHY does God regenerate us – make us born again, new creatures in Christ? Why does He change our nature? (2 Corinthians 5:17-18) Are we not “partakers of the divine nature”? (2 Peter 1:3-4)
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No propensity toward sin?
Yes there is an evil in us, a potential, an inclination toward evil that must be crucified …. To say or to insinuate that there is nothing to be denied or crucified daily, always, perpetually, we are saying that Christ and His apostles are fools ….. because they said that such were essential (Lk. 9:23-24; John 12:23-25; Gal. 2:20; 5:24; Col. 3:3; Rom. 6, etc. ….. Seems to me that sin had an horrible effect on human nature …. Rom. 5:18-19. ….When we “were dead in trespasses and sins,” we “were BY NATURE the children of wrath, even as others” (Ephesians 2:1-3). See also Romans 7.
The answer is not to deny the sinful tendencies but rather to obey Christ by crucifying that nature…..
God doesn’t expect you to sin. He commands and expects you to live holy and gives you totally mastery over all temptation to sin through the power of His Spirit and the crucified life (Romans 6:14; 8:12-14, etc.).
There’s no excuse for sinning. If a Christian sins it is always that Christians fault, never God’s fault (James 1:13-15).
1 John 2:1-2
Like the heretic they follow, they teach that it’s your own “natural ability” that you overcome and not by the power and saving grace of the LORD Jesus Christ. Gal 3:3
Are there sinful tendencies in fallen man? Yes.
Does this mean he is captive to those sinful bents after regeneration? No. In fact, redeemed men have been given complete grace and divine power over all sin (Romans 6; 8:12-14, etc.).
Are sinful men captive to sin before regeneration? Yes. Unregenerate man has no saving grace to overcome sin or to “stop sinning” as some foolishly assert. Sinners “by nature” serve their sinful dictates and the enemy of souls (Ephesians 2:1-3).
Unregenerate man cannot “stop sinning” until he personally meets the only One who came and died to redeem and regenerate him (Galatians 2:20-21; Titus 3:2-7, etc.).
The ability to conquer all sin is the stated will of God and yet that divine ability (Grace = divine ability) does not enter the saved person until he is first saved. So how can someone “stop all sinning” before being saved by grace? Impossible. And, that is unmitigated idolatry, antichrist – putting self before, in place of Christ who alone is Savior and LORD. Repentance is first and foremost turning TO GOD and not turning from sin. If you get these out of order, you are a heretic.
***These people are under the spirit of antichrist. They are touting their own “natural ability” to make the right decisions while denying the need for Christ’s regeneration and present saving, enabling grace (divine influence on their hearts and empowerment in their lives). They deny Christ in that they believe they overcome by their own personal will alone and not by the power and grace of Jesus Christ. John 1:12-13
Hosea 4:6; Colossians 2:18-19
One writer notes:
“The recognition of the sin nature is exactly why must take up the daily cross. The branch cut away from the wild olive tree and grafted into the new tree still has a residue of the old sap and bark.”
Apostasy
Dispensationalism Exposed as an Antichrist Cult [podcast]
The Dispensational Cult of Evangelicalism Exposed
God’s Word never instructed anyone to rightly divide the word of truth via dispensations. There is no such statement of instruction in Scripture. And therein is this cult born and based.
One of the things that allures and seduces unsuspecting buyers into dispensationalism is the idea of neatly organizing world history into 7 dispensations. Yet it’s a trap that has snared many who have refused to organically study the whole of God’s Word in honesty before Him (2 Timothy 2:15). The LORD specifically instructs His people to “study … ALL Scripture” and therein obtain/attain to His truth (2 Timothy 2:15; 3:16-17; 1 Timothy 4:6). The individual study of God’s Word is vital – where it’s just you and the Word and Holy Ghost. Paul commanded and God commands each of us to study His Word for ourselves. Read 2 Timothy 2:15 afresh and see this instruction. In God’s Word, one will discover the deafening silence, the utter absence of any instruction to learn or divide His Word into dispensations at all or as a basis for understanding – much less such being an essential, a basis to understanding God’s truth as is declared by the dispensationalists.
A cult indoctrination system is what the dispensational cult utilizes.
“I appreciate this lesson. My church recently went dispensational, and now they teach that the four gospel and Acts aren’t written to us. They are saying only Roman through Philemon are applicable to New Testament Christians. Oh yeah, Paul preached a different gospel than Christ, and the Kingdom of Heaven is different than the Kingdom of God (SMH). This is sure confusion. Pray that my wife and I will find somewhere else to serve Christ. Thanks.” Matthew
Dispensationalists are clearly anti-Christ! This alone proves it.
The first part of this message is from Joshua Tapp, a man who was at one time ensnared in this cultish indoctrination system of dispensational theology. “Systematic” theology? Well, WHO is determining the system? Is this just another trap set for those who wish to be organized in their study? That way they can be made to believe that they have a grasp on the Bible and yet it’s built on falsehoods. May God bless each of us to be careful and discerning saints. As you peer into dispensationalism, you will find that someone upline if you will, has decided for themselves and you, that no one can possibly understand and rightly divide the truth of the Bible unless they study it in dispensations – something the Bible never hints much less instructs us to to do. An organized, personal, systematic studying of the Bible is one thing, and being indoctrinated into and by man’s system is yet another thing.
The roots of dispensationalism are cursed. One disciples notes: “The popular foolishness of John Nelson Darby’s dispensationalism teaches that if you miss the rapture, you need to be one with the Jews, who will be sacrificing animals in a rebuilt temple. Total heresy.”
Dispensationalism = Garbage = I Studied It For Years And Believed Garbage by Joshua Tapp
- I want to talk about dispensationalism because it’s something I studied for a few years.
- And it’s something I stopped studying because it’s pure trash that doesn’t match the Bible.
- Dispensationalists usually teach a Pre-Tribulation Rapture, which we know is completely false.
- You’ll find dispensationalism mainly in Independent Fundamental Baptist Churches.
- And I want you to see what they’re teaching today so you NEVER fall for this trash.
The word DISPENSATION is in the King James Bible 4 times. All 4 instances are in the New Testament.
- The Apostle Paul wrote the 3 books with these 4 occurrences. 1 Corinthians, Ephesians, and Colossians.
- I want to read those 4 verses to you as we get started today. Then, we’ll go over each in detail.
[3] 1 Corinthians 9:17 For if I do this thing willingly, I have a reward: but if against my will, a dispensation of the gospel is committed unto me.
[4] Ephesians 1:10 That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him:
[5] Ephesians 3:2 If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which is given me to you-ward:
[6] Colossians 1:25 Whereof I am made a minister, according to the dispensation of God which is given to me for you, to fulfil the word of God;
- So, what does dispensation mean in these 4 scriptures that we just read? We’re going to find out.
- Think of the word DISPENSE. Dispense means to distribute, or to give out.
- A candy dispenser gives out candy. A gumball machine is a dispenser of gumballs.
- And to help you remember DISPENSATION, I’m going to give you some candy today.
- I’m going to be a candy DISPENSER right now. I want you to remember what dispense means.
Dispense is the act of distribution or distributing something. To deal out. To give out. To grant something.
- A soap dispenser gives out soap. Do you understand what the word dispensation means now?
- It’s really that simple. The definition of the word dispensation is even explained right there in Colossians.
- Paul says, “according to the dispensation of God which is GIVEN to me for you.”
- Paul is telling us all about the GOSPEL and giving the Gospel to us just as God gave it to Him.
In other words, he is a DISPENSER of the Gospel. That’s what we’re supposed to be. DISPENSERS of the Gospel.
- You got excited over the candy being dispensed, right? Well, the Gospel is much better than that.
- We’re supposed to be DISPENSING the GOSPEL to as many people as we can so they might be saved.
- We’re supposed to be BRINGING or GIVING the GOSPEL to others. Do you see this?
- So, that’s 1 of 4 verses that we’re going to look at today. Let’s look in detail at the other 3.
- I’m going to show you what each of these mean, and then we’ll see what DISPENSATIONALISM is today.
- You’re going to see that DISPENSATIONALISM being taught in churches is not BIBLICAL at all.
Now, look, this was only a short introduction to DISPENSATIONALISM.
- All of their false doctrines are easy to disprove with the Bible.
- Dispensationalism is a false doctrine invented by a man named John Nelson Darby.
- He even wrote his own Bible version called Darby’s Translation.
- It’s just like the modern corrupted versions. He thought he was the only that was right.
- Just like Joseph Smith of the Mormons. His people are going the same direction.
- They’re moving away from God into all this weird doctrine and teaching. Don’t be a part of that.
- He invented the PRE-TRIBULATION RAPTURE in 1830. It doesn’t exist in the Bible.
- When you read Revelation word by word and verse by verse, it makes no sense.
- We need to pray that the deceived get away from these churches teaching false doctrines.
Dispensationalists say We are Saved by Grace but Others weren’t. They say others were saved some other way.
There aren’t different AGES with different ways of being saved.
“If the Bible tells us in John 1:17 that “GRACE and truth came by Jesus Christ”, long before Paul was even saved, how were those 8,000 people at Pentecost saved? (Acts 1-4) After all, Paul didn’t get saved for many years after that (Acts 9). So, the world could only get saved after Paul came along? Is Paul the Savior or JESUS? Did “grace and truth” come from Jesus or Paul? Repent now, vile sinner (John 1:17).” Todd Tomasella
- The dispensationalists say that we’re in the AGE OF GRACE. (a made up “age”)
- They say that we are saved by grace but others weren’t. This is very important to understand.
- The truth is ALL PEOPLE OF ALL TIME are saved the exact same way.
- We’re all saved by GRACE through faith. Everyone in heaven right now got there the exact same way.
- We did an entire sermon on people throughout the Bible and how they were saved.
- Hebrews Chapter 11 tells us all of these people were saved by faith.
2 Timothy 3:16-17 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
- So, they (dispensationalists) come up with all these FAKE DISPENSATIONS that aren’t in the Bible.
- How did God divide the Bible? There’s 2 parts to the Bible. The Old Testament and the New Testament.
- The Old Covenant and the New Covenant. Notice the division is a TESTAMENT.
- The Bible isn’t divided into the Old Salvation and the New Salvation. It’s not a different way to salvation.
John 14:15 If ye love me, keep MY commandments.
- Jesus is the AUTHOR OF GOD’S LAWS. Those are all HIS COMMANDMENTS within the Bible.
- Does Jesus say, “In the future, don’t worry about following my laws because you’re under grace.”
- The Bible itself DESTROYS this false doctrine of dispensationalism. But they can’t see that.
- When you create false teaching like dispensationalism, it gets more and more weird the further you go.
More below from Todd Tomasella …..
WHERE does God’s Word tell us that one cannot “rightly divide the word of truth” unless he does it through time dispensations? Nowhere! When the dispensationalist insists in “context, context” and “rightly divide”… what they are really saying is “No one can rightly divide God’s Word except the dispensationalists.”
Randy Yandell writes: “Those holding a theology that teaches more than one plan of salvation for any people in any age are certainly to be separated from. These are the same that would creep in with the majority unaware bringing in a damnable heresy that tells us God is a respecter of persons. They are accursed and we certainly should separate from them except to “rebuke them sharply” that they may come to the knowledge of the truth.
Paul himself tells us that dispensationalists are “accursed” for saying there is “another gospel”, more than one (Galatians 1:6-9).
Dispensational heretics teach that Jesus’ kingdom Gospel is obsolete and that only Paul’s matters – “Romans to Philemon” they say. So they are antichrist for putting Paul in place of Jesus. They deify Paul and are in need of repentance before it’s too late. Cult.
Our kids and young adults are getting swept into this stuff by the truckloads. It’s a couple of decades past time to get serious about opposing it.”
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“All the bible was written FOR us….but not all was written TO us. Romans through Philemon is all the New Testament saint needs.”
REPLY:
These dispensationalist wolves hyper preach that THEY alone rightly divide the Word of truth…. it’s a smokescreen they hide behind as they’ve been indoctrinated into this cult. Dispensationalists require that their prey read extra-biblical books first in order to understand the Bible. HUGE RED FLAG – and the absolute sign of indoctrination. They are butchering the Word of God. WHERE O where did Jesus, Paul or any of the apostles instruct believers to view the Bible through dispensations? Chapters and verses please? You are being completely deceived by a mere cliche’ pawned on your mind. “ALL scripture is given by inspiration of God” and not just some. Even the OT is “for our learning” (2 Timothy 3:16; Rom 15:4).
You did NOT come to this conclusion for yourself. Mere men, sinners imposed it upon your mind. The Bible never tells you this. It’s not in the Bible. The Bible never instructs anyone saying things like “you can’t rightly divide and understand the Bible unless you do it via dispensations” … so did God forget to tell us something or are we deceived?
Dispensationalists are saying that only Romans thru Philemon are valid which means that the other 14 books of the New Testament canon are invalid and that God made a mistake by including them. They are adding to and REMOVING from God’s Word and their names and yours will be removed from the book of life – Rev 22:18-19
You are deifying Paul, a mere men, less than the least of all sinners who said there is “NO good thing” in himself except Christ (Ephesians 3:8). This whole system of demonic theology is all to save counterfeits from truly laying down their lives in this present world and following Jesus by the daily cross, the crucified life. This is the exact perversion of grace Jude 4 foretold. You have no clue who deceived you are and now you’re spreading this heresy.
Here’s the big clue for those who gullibly, foolishly, sinfully bought into the lies of the dispensationalist devils: You did NOT go into the Bible and discover these things. No, you were gullibly led by false teachers and took the bait, hook line and sinker and it’s because you aren’t studying God’s Word organically for yourself. And so, when these cult leaders brainwashed you to believe that only THEY were rightly dividing the Word of truth, you fell all over your foolish self to drink in that poison. Mark This: No one ever studied the Bible for themselves with the Holy Ghost and came out with those heresies. Sinful men mined out these twisted lies and then began to spread those doctrines of devils….. “MANY false prophets shall arise and shall deceive many.” (Matthew 24:11)
The fact that you have to go through a whole lengthy workbook curriculum to learn the interpretation system of dispensationalist should be a red flag. This is introductory indoctrination.
This whole explanation dispensationalists give complicates the simple, original Gospel, the revelation of which should be obtained by organic reading of the Word of God for oneself as Scripture instructs (2 Timothy 2:15). Those who believe this system get this theology from other mere men, commentators and false teachers (such as Scofield). Someone imposes it on them, pretending to make understanding the Bible simpler. They forgot to mention the poison. Instead of personally studying the Bible organically, some want a short cut and so what they do is hook up with some ministry that is pushing a system. Laziness is also a contributing factor when men choose to go to seminary – to supposedly study a book, the Bible they’ve had in their possession for years. Enlisting to be indoctrinated would sum up the course of seminarians and those who follow their heretical theology. Dispensational “seminary,” signing up to be indoctrinated via their systematic curriculum, is a recipe for diabolical doctrinal disaster.
MESSAGE FROM DISPENSATIONALIST:
“Dispensationalism leads to understanding the Bible without contradiction. Non-dispensationalism leads to satanic heresies and Bible ignorance.”
REPLY:
This is laughable at best. You are clearly a blasphemer who is saying that the Holy Ghost can’t teach God’s people God’s Word. Wow! Repent sinner.
“But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.” John 14:26
“Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. 14 He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.” John 16:13-14
“But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.” 1 John 2:27
MESSAGE RECEIVED FROM A DECEIVED DISPENSATIONALIST:
“There is more than one gospel in Bible. However, there is only one gospel that is to be preached today. Watch closely👇 Galatians 1:7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. Notice, Paul, (when speaking of the gospel) says which “is not another”. He does not say which WAS not another, or for that matter, which never will BE another. A bible believer knows that in the future there will BE another gospel. (Revelation 14:6) Paul is not saying that there never was or will be another gospel. He is simply saying there is no other gospel other than his, at this TIME. (“Which is not another;”) Galatians 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. Note that Paul warned that even if an “angel from heaven, preach any other gospel”. But Revelation 14:6 declares that an angel WILL preach another gospel. “And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,” And if you’ll read Revelation 14 and pay close attention to the context you’ll notice that something is missing. OUR gospel! (1 Corinthians 15:1-4) ~Christ dying for all our sins, and rising the third day to give us His eternal life is not there. ~God through Christ reconciling the world unto himself and no longer imputing the our sins is not there. ~Being saved by grace through faith alone in Christ alone, without any works of any-kind at any-time, is JUST NOT THERE.”
REPLY:
Totally convoluted.. You are simply regurgitating what you learned from false teachers. You claim Bible believers know there’s another future gospel coming. Not. WHAT gospel would that be since the true Gospel (Good News) is Jesus Christ and His death, burial, and resurrection? (1 Corinthians 15:1-4) You are misusing Scripture. You reference Revelation 14:6 which states: “And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people.” “The everlasting gospel” is the same Gospel – nothing supersedes Jesus Christ, the eternal God and He is that Gospel, that everlasting, eternal Good News, Gospel. His death, burial, and resurrection is memorialized for ever. You are making things up to say that “the everlasting gospel” spoken of here is another gospel. Ridiculous. Heretical. If the Gospel spoken of here is “the EVERLASTING gospel”, it further proves that God has only one Gospel – past, present, future. That means it has never and will never change. Your theology is convoluted. Eternal security is yet another lie of the dispensational devils. Repent now sinner.
HOW MANY GOSPELS ARE THERE?
The following bulleted statements are from one source concerning dispensationalism theology:
- “They (dispensationalists) say only Paul taught being ‘in Christ’. Rom 16:7; Gal 1:22-23 among others, show these people were named as being ‘in Christ’ before Paul was in Christ.
- Contrary to what they teach, the Word clearly teaches that the Jewish church was ‘in Christ’ and that Paul preached the same faith he once persecuted. Rom 16:7; Gal 1:22-23
- Some (dispensationalists) teach there are Two different gospels — that the Jew is saved by faith plus the law and Gentiles by Faith alone. Because Paul said ‘my gospel’ they think it was somehow different than Peter, John, James (Rom 2:18; 16:25; 2 Tim 2:8). Even though elsewhere he called it ‘our gospel’ (2 Cor 4:3; 1 Thess 1:5; 2 Thess 2:14). There is only one gospel not two, the just have always lived by faith. (Hab 2:4; Rom 1:17, Gal 2:16, 3:11) The righteous have always been declared so by belief in God and His promises. From the beginning. Some just see the Jews transitioning from the law as we see in Galatians 2 with the public rebuke of Peter, Barnabas and James.”
The phrases “another gospel” and “any other gospel” could mean but one thing – that there is only one Gospel (2 Corinthians 11:2-4; Galatians 1:6-9). Dispensational theology teaches that there are two gospels – one for the Jews, and another for the Gentiles.
“I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: 7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. 9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.” Galatians 1:6-9
Past, present, and future, the Lamb of God and His crucifixion will be celebrated in glory – “the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.” (Revelation 13:8)
Paul not only uses the term “my gospel”, he also uses the words “THE gospel” as in only one Gospel! In fact, in the New Testament canon, the words “THE gospel” appear 86 times while Paul’s use of the words “my gospel” appear only 3 times. Paul himself used the term “THE gospel” 59 times! I will leave it to you to do a search of the words “THE gospel” on your King James Bible software. Your jaw will drop as 86 results appear. And as you do, notice that the words “THE gospel”, a phrase used before and after Paul used this same term, further proving there’s only one Gospel – “THE gospel” of Jesus Christ – which is not exclusive to Paul’s dispensation (dispensing) of it which simply refers to his stewardship of the calling God gave him to dispense the one and eternal Gospel of Jesus Christ who is the Gospel.
Paul says that anyone preaching “ANY other gospel” than CHRIST’s Gospel, is “accursed.” (Galatians 1:6-9) There’s only 1 Gospel – Christ’s. Dispensationalism is demonic.
There is no end to the debacle of this dispensational system of heresy. Before Paul was even saved, the words “many believed” appears 4 times in the Word of God and 1 time shortly after Paul was saved (John 2:23; 8:30; 10:42; 12:42; Acts 9:42). The Bible clearly says “many believed” and so we know they were “saved.” (John 6:47) Yet the dispensationalist would say they are not saved because they couldn’t be saved till Paul came along. So, were those people, those “many” who believed, believing into “another gospel” – a gospel other than that one Gospel of Christ spoken of throughout the New Testament canon? There’s Only One Gospel of Christ and as seen in the Bible verses listed above, people were clearly saved BEFORE Paul was saved much less before he wrote the books God ordained him to pen!
HOW do you know if someone is imposing something upon the Scripture text they are reading from IF you haven’t personally, organically, thoroughly studied the whole of God’s Word for yourself? You don’t.
Dispensationalists claim that the only essential part of the New Testament and Bible for that matter, is the writings of the apostle Paul. The demonic dispensationalists claim that only Paul’s words really matter, not Christ’s or the other holy apostles and writers of the New Testament and whole Bible canon. But Paul, whom they deify, disagrees.
“If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, EVEN THE WORDS OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness; 4 He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings, 5 Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself.” 1 Timothy 6:3-5
Dispensational Theology Exposed
Abiding
THE DEVIL IS A LIAR [podcast]
Eternal Security is not taught in God’s Word – Other than by Satan and his false prophets.
After being saved, one cannot live in sin and remain in relationship with Christ.
“What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? 2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?” Romans 6:1-2
Reading Romans 6 each morning this week prayerfully will greatly benefit the disciple of Christ.
God said (Genesis 2:17):
“But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof THOU SHALT SURELY DIE.”
Satan said (Genesis 3:4):
“And the serpent said unto the woman, YE SHALL NOT SURELY DIE.”
Eternal Security Proof Text Plundered
1 John 2:19-29
Warning Concerning Antichrists
18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.
20 But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things.
21 I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth.
22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.
24 Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father.
25 And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life.
26 These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you.
27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
Children of God
28 And now, little children, abide in him; that, when he shall appear, we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before him at his coming.
29 If ye know that he is righteous, ye know that every one that doeth righteousness is born of him.
John makes it clear that the antichrists in their midst which departed, did so because they were departing from the faith (1 timothy 4:1-2). Verse 19 does NOT say they were never of us but rather “they were not of us.”
Teddy Caldwell writes:
“OSAS insists that those are professing believers, but 1 John 2:18 says such people are antichrists. 1 John 2:22 says an antichrist is one who denies that Jesus is the Christ. Anyone who does that isn’t a believer and isn’t even trying to look like one.”
Concerning 1 John 2:19, Donald Stamps, in the Life in the Spirit Study Bible, writes:
“‘THEY WENT OUT FROM US.’ When the antichrists departed from their fellowship with true believers, they were not in a saving relationship with Christ. This allows for two possibilities: (1) They were never true believers to begin with, or (2) they had once been in a saving relationship with Christ but afterward abandoned their faith in Christ.”
Right here in verse 24 of this passage we see the doctrine of personal responsibility to “remain” in faithful obedience to the LORD or lose one’s place with God (1 Corinthians 15:2; Galatians 6:9; Colossians 1:23). This is a teaching found throughout Holy Writ – the divine requirement to stay saved or lose all in eternity, “suffering the vengeance of eternal fire” (Jude 7).
“Let that therefore abide (remain) in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. IF (denotes condition) that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father. And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life.” 1 John 2:24-25
Verse 24 alone tells us that we cannot think that verse 19 means that someone who is at some point in right standing with God can never depart from Him and lose out. Also, verse 25 tells us that “eternal life” (not just rewards) is at stake and the promise contingent upon the believer abiding or remaining in that “which ye have heard from the beginning” which is the Gospel. “Eternal life” is assured as long as one is remaining rooted in Jesus Christ. This is the overwhelmingly consistent message of God’s Word.
In verse 26 John says “These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you.” Verse 19 is written about the deceivers who sought to “seduce” these disciples John was addressing, and not of true believers.
With all of Scripture in consideration, we can conclude that 1 John 2:19 is a specific example and not a rule of doctrine.
If you truly wish to search out this matter, let me encourage you to closely examine, break down and study this entire text (1 John 2:18-29). In order to ascertain truth, one must compare the verse in question with all other related Scriptures, beginning with the context in which the verse is set (Isaiah 28:9-10; 1 Corinthians 2:13).
Adam Clarke note on 1 John 2:19
“1 John 2:19
They went out from us – These heretics had belonged to our Christian assemblies, they professed Christianity, and do so still; but we apostles did not commission them to preach to you, for they have disgraced the Divine doctrine with the most pernicious opinions; they have given up or explained away its most essential principles; they have mingled the rest with heathenish rites and Jewish glosses. While, therefore, we acknowledge that they once belonged to us, we assert that they are not of us. They are not Christians; we abhor their conduct and their creed. We never sent them to teach.
They were not of us – For a considerable time before they left our assemblies they gave proofs that they had departed from the faith; for if they had been of us – if they had been apostles, and continued in the firm belief of the Christian doctrines, they would not have departed from us to form a sect of themselves.
That they were not all of us – They were not expelled from the Christian Church; they were not sent out by us; but they separated from it and us. None of them had been inspired as we apostles were, though they pretended to a very high teaching; but their separating from us manifested that they were not taught, as we were, by the Spirit of God. These false teachers probably drew many sincere souls away with them.”
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“Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.” Exodus 20:12
Any person who mistreats their father or mother has brought a curse on themselves. Unbelievable.
“Whoso curseth his father or his mother, his lamp shall be put out in obscure darkness.” Proverbs 20:20
“Children, obey your parents in the Lord: for this is right. 2 Honour thy father and m
other; (which is the first commandment with promise;) 3 That it may be well with thee, and thou mayest live long on the earth. 4 And, ye fathers, provoke not your children to wrath: but bring them up in the nurture and admonition of the Lord.” Ephesians 6:1-4
To honor simply means to highly esteem.
Does the Bible say “Honor your parents but only if they’re perfect and only if you agree with them”? No! And thank God because none of us are perfect parents, right?
God has a plan and it’s the only perfect plan! If you follow it, your life will be blessed.
Does it seem like it’s easier for some children to honor their parents? Does their relationship with their parents seem more fluent? At least in some cases, could it be due to the graciousness that the parents fostered in their children? Genuine love governing and fostering a sincere relationship.
David Taylor writes writes this exhortation on honoring our parents:
“Hope you are enjoying mom today brother with blessings. Please do so. Mine is gone. I took her for granted during her life. Not honoring her, not loving her as I should have. What’s that old saying ‘You never know what you have till it’s gone.”
The greatest heritage we give our children is God’s Word.
“Thy testimonies have I taken as an heritage for ever: for they are the rejoicing of my heart.” Psalms 119:111
Sharing how God is working in her life concerning her relationship with her beloved mother, Karen Cochran writes:
“I had to die to being right. Pride! How could I love her (my mother) with the love of Jesus? How would she see Jesus in me? She would not see Him in me in all my pride and arrogance! By being full of pride, all I did was stir up strife. Proverbs 10:12 ‘Hatred stirreth up strifes: but love covereth all sins.’ Because she would retaliate and would be angry. I had to learn to keep my mouth shut. And it has completely changed our relationship. But first the Lord had to change me and cleanse me from my ‘know it all’ attitude and my pride. I went to the Lord and said ‘why is she (my mother) so mean to me?’ The Lord straightened me out quick. It was me not her! I couldn’t control her! All I could do was allow God to root out what was sin in me.”
“Only by pride cometh contention: but with the well advised is wisdom.” Proverbs 13:10
PRAYER: Father, bless this life to be crucified with Christ, to be truly humbled before You – that You might raise me up to glorify You. Thank You for my beloved parents that You chose to bring me into this life through. Help me walk in Your wisdom which is Your Word. In Jesus’ name. Amen.
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