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Beware of the Denial of Christ’s Exclusivity and Atonement and the No-Sinful-Nature Heresy and Heretics

Does mankind have a sin nature, a bent toward evil? If so, where did that come from? What really happened at the fall? Can fallen mankind, by his own “natural ability”, self-will to overcome all sin? If so, WHY did Jesus come? (Galatians 2:21) | Charles Finney was a false teacher.

As a side, note: I’ve had people disown me for exposing Charles Finney which seems to a cult-like indoctrination and the corresponding devils (demons) that come with espousing “doctrines of devils.” Remember that “seducing spirits and doctrines of devils” are inseparable. Any person who believes a doctrine of devils has evil seducing spirit, a demon in his/her life.

“Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; 2  Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;” 1 Timothy 4:1-2

No one is guilty for someone else’s sin. God holds each individual guilty, fully responsible for their own sin (Ezekiel 18). Yet that in no way negates or changes the fact that something bad happened when man sinned against God in the Garden. If so, rip Romans 3, 5, and 7 out of your Bible. To deny such, to ignore such is the path to delusionment. This has tripped up many otherwise truth-seeking people today. The main source of this poison has come through the heretical ministries of men like Charles Finney.

“Salvation is the work of man.” Charles Finney

The no-sin-nature (“old man“, “flesh”)-to-crucify heresy is just another cross-less lie. It’s peddled by those who refuse to die and who pretend to be sinless perfection by means of their own “natural ability.” Beware of these antichrists.

If there were no inherent sinful bend, bent, iniquitous nature…. WHY O WHY would Paul have repeatedly taught that Christ’s disciples must “keep under” their “body” or flesh, the old man? (1 Corinthians 9:27) Why the cross if there is nothing to daily crucify? Someone is lying and it’s not Jesus and His holy apostles. Beware. Think biblically. | Judgment to Come Necessitates the Crucified Life [podcast]

MESSAGE RECEIVED:

“My question is if Ezekiel says the sins of the father are not the sins of the son and vice versa how does God count Adam’s sin against us?”

REPLY:

No, Ezekiel says the sins of the father are not the responsibility of the son and vice versa. That’s different. In other words the sins the father chooses to commit or walk in he shall long bear the judgment for.  God says in Ezekiel 18:4 that each individual soul is HIS and will be rewarded according to the choices he makes while on earth. The father will not give account for the son nor the son for the father. Read Ezekiel 18. There were wicked kings with good children such as wicked king Abijam vs his son Asa who chose to do right. 1 Kings 15.

Ezekiel 18 is the same teaching as this:
The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin.” Deuteronomy 24:16

Have you read Romans 5 lately? v12,  18-19

“For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.” 1 Corinthians 15:22

All men are born after Adam and then choose Christ or to reject Him. Matthew 12:30; Mark 16:16, etc.


MESSAGE RECEIVED:

“So, you believe that God has made us fallen? Back to my point, why IF we are made perfect by God Ps 139 then how are we born into a sinful nature? It is either constituted or practiced unto unto total depravity.

My other point was that the moral neutrality that God has given us at birth with the knowledge of good and evil swirling all round us. The weakness of the flesh to temptation and then sin, and then death is easily revealed.”

REPLY:

I would exhort you to put off the things you’ve learned and read Romans 7 afresh. Also Galatians 5:17-18. Call it what you wish, something is raging within, there is a war within. The Bible calls it the flesh, the old man which can only be put off by the crucified life (Romans 6; 8:11-14).

‘For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. 18  But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.’ Galatians 5:17-18

Why would Jesus mandate self must be denied if there were nothing to deny, to be crucified? (Luke 9:23-24)

You keep saying or asking if I believe God made us fallen. Sorry but I have repeatedly stated that God made us perfect. Genesis 1:31; Eccl 7:29 etc. Of his own God-given free will, man chose to sin against God – all by himself (Genesis 6:5, 12; Romans 3; James 1:13-15, etc.).

You don’t seem to realize that there was a fall in sin-less paradise, in the Garden. And you won’t until read Romans 3 and 5 and believe it. Begin with a prayer, asking the LORD to remove the poison you’ve been indoctrinated with by wicked men such as Charles Finney. v12, 18-19 of Romans 5 for sure.

What happened at the fall? Is the wages of sin not death? Romans 6:23 In the divine economy of God who is “Holy, holy, holy,” does sin not have a profound effect? Are you denying that sin affected mankind? Such would be diametrically opposed to and against the clear teaching of Romans 3, 5, 7.

You are only half way to the truth with the idea of “moral neutrality.” Such would deny lots of what Scripture informs us of concerning our heart being “only evil continually,” “desperately wicked,” etc. Genesis 6:5, 12; Jeremiah 17:9


Those who do not study and know God’s Word thoroughly are susceptible to being deceived by the “many false prophets” that “are gone out into the world” (1 John 4:1). Example: There’s a group of heretics that run around boldly declaring the lie that there is no sinful bent in believers. Nonsense. Mike Desario and Charles Finney were both false teachers.

These dialogues should help clear up the misconceptions and deceptions of those who have been beguiled into this evil theology which denies Christ’s uniqueness, atonement, mankind’s fallen sinful state, and what God has said about fallen mankind.

Lots of gullible dupes buying this package. Beware! Charles Finney’s falsehoods are being regurgitated. This system of falsehood is on the rise. Due to these heresies showing their ugly head as of the last few years, we have addressed this extensively. Here’s a new post with an intriguing dialogue that is sure to clue you in to the way these people have believed and been deceived. Where is your Christology friends? – Please share this page to help others.

SELF-RIGHTEOUS DEVILS will be in hell first according to Christ (Matthew 21:31)! There are lots of novices acting like they have the answers because they learned their heresies from now-in-hell wolves like Mike Desario and Charles Finney. Beware. These are the vilest of devils.

YES God requires genuine faith which always produces good works and yet, GOD ALONE SAVES US – not our own good works! Rightly divide! Synthesize the whole truth! (2 Timothy 2:15)

Some deny that there is a flesh nature to be crucified. Utter heresy.

God made us one way, perfect. But then we sinned and something bad happened.

“And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.” Genesis 1:31

God made mankind and said “it was very good.” Then man sinned and incurred death (Ecclesiastes 7:29; Romans 5:18-19). The details of the curse that came upon mankind when Adam and Eve sinned against God, are given to us in Genesis 3. Death came into man at the fall. Something happened, and it wasn’t good. Read Romans 7.

“Lo, this only have I found, that God hath made man upright; but they have sought out many inventions.” Ecclesiastes 7:29

God made us perfect but WE chose sin and fell and there are consequences for sin, right? And there’s also salvation, redemption, regeneration, choice, the cross, victory that we can choose to receive and walk in.

“Total depravity” is a false doctrine of calvinism which says “we are so sinful and we have no choice about anything. We have no ability to turn to God in repentance and faith to be redeemed, regenerated, made new creatures, temples of the Holy Spirit in Christ.” False.

We have the choice, the privilege to choose Christ and His cross to overcome all depravity, sin.

The Word says things like we are “desperately wicked” right? See Jeremiah 17:9. How about Genesis 6:5, 12 too, right? There’s Romans 3, 5, 6, 7 for the effects of sin, and 8 for the victory of Christ.

The no-sin-nature people are missing the cross. The Mike Desario’s, the Charles Finney’s, and the Jesse Morrell’s of the world peddle the no-sin-nature heresy and also do not preach the cross, the crucified life. They rag on endlessly about “stopping all sin” but never mention the crucified life which is the only divine prescription for overcoming sin (Romans 6, etc.).  That alone makes them false, peddlers of “another gospel” (Galatians 1:6-9). This is why they can’t understand this. They do not realize that God gave us the solution to this sin bent (iniquity), this inherent in fallen man sin – and that answer is the crucified life which is at the heart of the original Gospel.

In my understanding…. the no-sin-nature doctrine does not stand the test of the whole counsel of God’s Word. It is vehemently peddled by some today (Proverbs 14:12).

Saints, we cannot possibly begin to appreciate this “so great salvation” that is Christ until we understand how lost, helpless, and alienated we were in our sin (Ephesians 2:1-10; Hebrews 2:3). We must study to understand the biblical doctrine of inherent sin, fallen mankind, and the holiness of God …. in order to begin to be able to appreciate the redemption that is in Jesus Christ.

Sin sure is a living entity called the “old man” which is ever with us and must be daily crucified – put to death (Romans 6; Colossians 3:9-10). If there were nothing to “put off” why would the LORD have told us to do so, so often? Read Romans 3, 5-7 afresh, carefully.

If there were nothing to “put off,” this divine command would not exist (Ephesians 4:22; Colossians 3:8-9). All the Scriptures on the cross, the crucified life, would be useless if there were nothing to crucify – there would be no cross to “take up” which would mean we call Jesus a lunatic and liar for having commanded us to take up the cross, to live a crucified life (Luke 9:23-24; 14:27).

Fallen man’s utter depravity and need for the saving mercy of Jesus Christ!

How can we possibly begin to understand and appreciate why Jesus came to the earth to die if we still see ourselves as anything except “deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked” before a holy God? See Isaiah 6:3; Jeremiah 17:9; Romans 7:18; Revelation 4:8.

Mankind’s fallen state:

“The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?” Jeremiah 17:9

The heart of the human problem is the problem of the human heart.

What do we truly deserve in and of ourselves, being that “all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags” (Isaiah 64:6)?

“But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.” Isaiah 64:6

“O wretched man that I AM” sounds like he’s presently dealing with the “old man” which must be perpetually crucified with Christ in this life – which is a test of who we truly love, self or the Savior (Romans 7:18, 24). This discourse in chapter 7 is leading to the following ultimate solution for sin….

“For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God. 20 For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope, 21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God. 22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.” Romans 8:19-21 

Acknowledging that the Bible says there’s a war between the new creature and the tendency to sin in no way means we are captive to it. NO! We have been given complete victory over it through Christ and doing what He told us to do “daily” – take up the cross and follow Him (Luke 9:23-24; Romans 6; 1 Corinthians 15:57; 1 John 5:4-5, etc.).

Because they don’t view the old man as a sinful nature, those who teach this “no sin nature heresy” don’t see the need to crucify it as Scripture commands repeatedly.

“By nature through the fall of Adam, are we the children of wrath, heirs of the vengeance of God by birth, yea, and from our conception. And we have fellowship with the damned devils, under the power of darkness and rule of Satan, while we are yet in our mother’s wombs; and though we shew not forth the fruits of sin [as soon as we are born] yet are we full of the natural poison, whereof all sinful deeds spring, and cannot but sin outwards, (be we never so young,) [as soon as we be able to work,] if occasion be given: for our nature is to do sin, as is the nature of a serpent to sting… By grace (that is to say, by favour) we are plucked out of Adam, the ground of all evil, and grafted in Christ, the root of all goodness.” William Tyndale, A Pathway into the Holy Scripture

MESSAGE RECEIVED:

“I don’t claim to know every secret of God or of human nature and I could even be wrong about some things. But I know this. I will never say that Christ did not come in the flesh (1 John 4:2). For He was made in every way like us (Heb 2:17) Tempted in all points like us (Heb 4:15) and yet without sin.”

REPLY:

Yes but you are doing the same thing (equivalent) by denying His atonement … which is the only atonement. “Atonement” is huge with God and appears 81 times in Scripture. The OT references were pointing to Christ who was to come – “And not only so, but we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received the ATONEMENT” (Romans 5:11).

MESSAGE RECEIVED:

“So we have the same flesh as He had. I think we create our own Old Man that needs to be put off.”

REPLY:

Jesus Christ is unique in all of history. He had no earthly father which is the way contamination of sin is transferred via the blood. Study the significance of the phrase “only begotten Son” and you will begin seeing the uniqueness of Christ. He was all God and all man – sinless due to His Father and exercising His will to please Him alone. We though have earthly, sinful fathers whereby death passed upon us (Romans 5). Read Romans 5. You are missing some vital things in your body of truth.

Jesus was tempted and had a personal will (Luke 22:42), but He was more than just a man and this is what the Bible calls “the mystery of godliness.” Read 1 Timothy 3:16 and 6:15-16 closely.

You “think”? Don’t you have a Bible? “Let God be true and EVERY man a liar,” beginning with yourself. Your theology is a concoction at this point – a mixed bag of confusion.

MESSAGE RECEIVED:

“On the other hand I can point out sin to the lost and put the blame solely on the sinner and persuade men knowing the fear of God myself.”

REPLY:

You have sinned and so have I. We must beware of self-righteousness which was the sin of the hell bound Pharisees. This no-sin-nature heresy seems to foster self-righteousness and pride in self… Jesus says that the harlots will be in Heaven before the self-righteous (Matthew 21:31). What I mean by “sin nature” is the potential, inclination, and temptation to sin.

MESSAGE RECEIVED:

I’m not emailing you to support Finney. I’m emailing you because I work with the woman who is Lutheran and I know that she is deceived. I gave her a gospel tract that talked about how Jesus saves FROM sin, not IN sin. And one of her excuses was that she had a sinful nature. In other words she defined ‘sinful nature’ as a permanent thing that was inescapable. You define the term as escapable.

I become frustrated at times when I hear nominal Christians with an attitude that they can’t escape a nature they were born with or that they are saved no matter what they do. I’m frustrated out of love for their souls and not to prove some selfish doctrine. I hope you can forgive me if I have made you stumble in any way.

I was hoping to get some insight into someone who held to ‘sinful nature’ and yet believed in crucifying the flesh with its passions and desires.

In terms of my own beliefs I don’t totally subscribe to any theologian, whether it be Finney, Augustine, Edwards, Grudem, Luther, Wesley, Spurgeon, etc.. I feel it is important to study entire church history because it helps me understand where people are coming from.

As far as my own beliefs I believe Christ has freed me from the bondage that I sold myself into. It’s nothing more or less than that.

Again I call anyone a brother who worships Christ in spirit and truth.

I just wanted to poke a bit and see what you thought. Thank you for your videos on YouTube and I appreciate your time.”

REPLY:

God saves first – He regenerates. Then sin is forgiven and He grants His power to overcome. Salvation is not only about sin but about salvaging the relationship between Himself and mankind. The woman taken in adultery was first and foremost forgiven by Christ and THEN and only THEN told to “go and sin no more” (John 8). You have learned from deceived men to reduce Christ’s salvation to only overcoming sin which has taken the worship focus away from Him (Colossians 2:18-19). The spirit of antichrist is behind this. God is not interested in you feigning to be overcoming sin if you are not engaging in an abiding cross relationship with Him (John 15). Salvation is about restored relationship and fellowship with the Father and Son and not only about the removal of sin although that is essential to the reconciliation of that vital relationship (Colossians 1:12-14).

You said: “she defined ‘sinful nature’ as a permanent thing that was inescapable.” You define the term as escapable.” I define it as being “present” and essential to crucify via that “daily” cross Jesus commanded (Luke 9:23-24). But you are denying it against the clear teaching of Scripture. Paul the apostle wrote: “I find then a law, that, when I would do good, EVIL ISSSSS PRESENT WITH ME” (Romans 7:21). “Is” here makes it plain that after Paul’s conversion, sin was still “present” with him and had to be “put under” or mortified (Romans 6:-8; 1 Corinthians 9:27).

I agree that Calvinistic theology is completely false and yet, we cannot base truth on what others are falsely teaching. Truth is God’s Word (John 17:17), and we must honestly and objectively engage in “rightly dividing” it by thorough “study” of it (2 Timothy 2:15). What you are saying is clearly contradicting known truth. The sinful nature is only escapable at death. As long as we are in the body, we shall be tempted to conform to that evil nature, and given the opportunity to put it off (“put off the old man” and to “put on the new man”) (Ephesians 4:22-24; Col. 3:5-10). Listen closely to Paul here: – “For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time (including mortifying the sinful nature/flesh-v. 13) are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us. 19 For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God. 20 For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope, 21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God. 22  For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain (under the curse caused by man’s sin) together until now. 23 And not only they (the lost), but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.” Romans 8:18-23

This passage above further makes it crystal clear that we, “which have the firstfruits of the Spirit,” are groaning and travailing under sin’s gravity, “waiting for the manifestation of the sons of God” when we die or Christ returns. It’s then when “4 God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away. 5  And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful” (Revelation 21:4-5).

Romans 8:21 says that “the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption” and in the context of this passage, that’s clearly in eternity, not now.

Here’s your problem – you are basing your doctrine on 1) what you’ve heard from other mere men, and 2) what others are saying … instead of going only by the whole counsel of Scripture. You state: “I become  frustrated at times when I hear nominal Christians with an attitude that they can’t escape a nature they were born with or that they are saved no matter what they do. I’m frustrated out of love for their souls and not to prove some selfish doctrine. I hope you can forgive me if I have made you stumble in any way.”  First off, the LORD has blessed me to minister to individuals for 30 years now daily and I hear the same thing. No, I am not moved by this false system of theology and dealing with what people we minister to say (making excuses). The answer is not to deny what God’s Word clearly says is “present” with us (Romans 7:21), but rather to be instructed by the LORD and His holy apostles to “keep under” and to “crucify” and to “mortify the deeds of the body.” That’s God’s answer – not denying that evil is still present with us.

You said: “I was hoping to get some insight into someone who held to ‘sinful nature’ and yet believed in crucifying the flesh with its passions and desires.” This is correct actually – we have an evil nature and it must be daily mortified.

It is my opinion that you are being routed by the enemy by even giving place to and wasting time studying any person after Christ and His apostles. Let’s admit that we don’t even know God’s Word nearly as we should and could and so are wasting His precious time in our lives He gave us looking at what mere men said, taught, and believed. You said: “In terms of my own beliefs I don’t totally subscribe to any theologian, whether it be Finney, Augustine, Edwards, Gruden, Luther, Wesley, Spurgeon, etc. I feel it is important to study entire church history because it helps me understand where people are coming from.” ALL you need is God’s Word, and so reading, studying, and memorizing it bring ALL the answers (Psalms. 119:42; 2 Timothy 2:15; 3:15-17; 4:2-4; 1 Peter 3:15; 4:11; 2 Peter 1:3-4, 19-21, etc.).

Again, this is dangerous: “As far as my own beliefs I believe Christ has freed me from the bondage that I sold myself into. It’s nothing more or less than that.” If you have truly repented and put your faith in Christ (Acts 20:21), He regenerated you, made you a new creature in Christ, and gave you His “divine nature” (John 3:3, 7; Titus 3:5-7; 2 Corinthians 5:17-18; 2 Peter 1:3-4).

You seem humble and that’s a good place for us to be and to remain… teachable (Proverbs 1:5; 6:23; 15:32, etc.). He has much for us to learn.

MESSAGE RECEIVED:

“One additional thought. I’m not sure how you arrived at the fact I subscribe to Charles Finney. I specifically said when we repent God puts us “In Christ” (kind of like being put into Noah’s Ark) and thus are sanctified through Christ and his faith and righteousness. Someone isn’t a Finneyist because they deny sinful nature. I see that someone is a Finneyist if they subscribe to his systematic theology, moral government etc.

I just read in the bible that David said “I am fearfully and wonderfully made” and that babies in the womb know neither good nor evil. And I see that people “go astray”, meaning that they leave of their own volition. And I believe that God forgives small children if they sin. 1 John2:12 I write unto you, little children, because your sins are forgiven you for his name’s sake.

Also I don’t subscribe to any atonement theory whatsoever. Subscribing to an atonement theory only divides the brethren. It’s a source of division only. I do believe Christ frees from the captivity of sin, and I know that’s no theory. I’ve felt it personally in my life.

And if your point of calling out Finney is to correct error of sanctification by works then I support you in that cause.”

REPLY:

You have bought into and are overreacting to the error of others (mainly Calvinists) and thereby make an equally damaging, false error yourself and are openly denying Christ the only Redeemer.

Where did you get this teaching? It came from man and not God. You didn’t learn this from just and only reading Scripture. I know you say you just read the Bible but I am certain you have arrived at this via some man or mere men. You are forcing Scripture to say what you have concluded, holding to your tradition and setting God’s Word aside (Mark 7:6-9). You are allowing your tradition to trump Scripture.

What does “fearfully and wonderfully made” really mean? Does that cancel the meaning and revealed divine truth of other Scriptures? No. After God created man He said it was “good” and yet that was BEFORE man fell. After man fell He says we are “corrupt,” and “desperately wicked,” and have sinned against Him and are shown to be (concluded) guilty (Romans 3:19; 11:32). Without Christ’s “regeneration” (“born again”) we are “dead in trespasses and sins” and by “NATURE” the children of wrath (Ephesians 2:1-3; Titus 3:2-7).

Paul used the phrase “MYSTERY of iniquity” and so perhaps there is a mystery. Romans 7 may lend to that thought also. There IS a struggle within which seems to indicate two, not one nature – one that must be crucified and dominated by the power of the Spirit of God (Galatians 5:17-18; Romans 8:13; 1 Corinthians 9:27). Paul didn’t say “O wretched man that I WAS” but rather “O wretched man that I AM” (Romans 7:24). This seems to further demonstrate that he still had an evil nature to overcome – to mortify daily. That’s the whole purpose of the daily cross – so that the LORD will increase and we decrease (John 3:3o). It seems clear from Scripture that we should cease to deny the sin nature and simply obey God’s Word by crucifying it daily (Luke 9:23-24). We as His children have a personal will as even Jesus did and must choose His will over ours – “not MY will but thine be done” (Luke 22:42). Jesus had a will and we have a will – which we all choose to exercise as we choose in obeying or disobeying God.

Are you going to deny the war Paul spoke of? “For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.”

“But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.” Galatians 5:17-18

“The truth is that while Christ dwells in the believer’s new nature, He has strong competition from the believer’s old nature. The warfare between the old and the new goes on continually in most believers.” AW Tozer

To overlook the reality of this war within is to reveal our limited view of the full counsel of Scripture or refusal to acknowledge it.  I want to encourage you to take a step back prayerfully to seek the LORD’s face – asking Him that your heart would be established with His grace and not with meats (Hebrews 13:9; Ezekiel 36:24-26).

Now I am wondering if you are truly saved and I say that with all carefulness and concern. To quote you: “Also I don’t subscribe to any atonement theory whatsoever. Subscribing to an atonement theory only divides the brethren. It’s a source of division only. I do believe Christ frees from the captivity of sin, and I know that’s no theory. I’ve felt it personally in my life.”

Atonement is a “theory”? Forget dividing the brethren – you are denying Christ wholesale and calling God a liar. You are able to save yourself and atone for yourself? So, God sent His only begotten Son in vain? There was no need for at-one-ment? This is exactly what Finney taught and is antichrist – it exes out Christ, says that “Christ is dead in vain” (Galatians 2:21). It says that man can make his own way to God and that overcoming sin is the pinnacle of being right with God instead of Christ being the only Mediator between God and man. The Bible teaches us that salvation is in a Person – Jesus Christ – and not in what we can do to rid ourselves of sin. Such a notion replaces Christ with self (definition of antichrist) and makes us Luciferic. This is a deadly and damnable heresy – “even denying the Lord that bought them.” (2 Peter 2:1-3)

You said: “I do believe Christ frees from the captivity of sin, and I know that’s no theory. I’ve felt it personally in my life.” – So, what came first: 1) freedom from sin or 2) atonement and regeneration? Making you one with Him through regeneration/being born again and given a new nature – made a new creature in Christ? In your mind salvation is simply being freed “from the captivity of sin” and not in knowing and being known of God (John 15:14; 17:3; 1 Corinthians 8:3; Philippians 3:10). This is Gnosticism where personally knowing the LORD is subtly denied and replaced with mere head knowledge. You are reducing “salvation” to something far less than God reveals it to be by denying Christ right out of the picture which is the workings of “that spirit of antichrist” and “the spirit of error” (1 John 4:1-6).

It is my opinion that God is giving you the opportunity through this conversation to come to Him in honesty and sincere humility, returning to Him in repentance.

God sent His only begotten Son to be the only (exclusive) offering for fallen mankind’s sin to bring His atonement for mankind’s sin (Isaiah 53). The LORD Jesus Christ was the prophesied, exclusive Lamb of God who came to take away the sins of the world (Matthew 1:21; John 1:29).  He alone made atonement and to teach that we have no sin to be atoned for is to deny Christ openly. Jesus alone “taste(d) death for every man” (Hebrews 2:9). Denying or feigning to overcome sin (a farce) without Jesus’ atonement and regeneration is brazen denial of the whole plan of God in sending His only begotten Son. This makes one lost and antichrist.

“For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; 24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: 25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation (atoning sacrifice) through faith in his blood (not faith in ourselves), to declare HIS righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; 26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus. 27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith. 28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.” Romans 3:23-28

God alone justifies and He made that exclusively through Christ Jesus, the only “propitiation” or atoning sacrifice for our sins. This is exactly what He depicted in Leviticus 16-17 with the scapegoat. He alone fulfilled this picture when He came as “THE Lamb of God” to take “away the SIN (not just the sins) of the world” (John 1:29). The singular use of “sin” here is telling.

If we are not born with a sinful nature, WHY does God regenerate us – make us born again, new creatures in Christ? Why does He change our nature? (2 Corinthians 5:17-18) Are we not “partakers of the divine nature”? (2 Peter 1:3-4)

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As should be obvious, we continue to war against this Charles Finney system of lies that denies Christ’s atonement and what He instructed us to do in taking up the cross and deny self

No propensity toward sin?

Yes there is an evil in us, a potential, an inclination toward evil that must be crucified …. To say or to insinuate that there is nothing to be denied or crucified daily, always, perpetually, we are saying that Christ and His apostles are fools ….. because they said that such were essential (Lk. 9:23-24; John 12:23-25; Gal. 2:20; 5:24; Col. 3:3; Rom. 6, etc. ….. Seems to me that sin had an horrible effect on human nature …. Rom. 5:18-19. ….When we “were dead in trespasses and sins,” we “were BY NATURE the children of wrath, even as others” (Ephesians 2:1-3). See also Romans 7.

The answer is not to deny the sinful tendencies but rather to obey Christ by crucifying that nature…..

God doesn’t expect you to sin. He commands and expects you to live holy and gives you totally mastery over all temptation to sin through the power of His Spirit and the crucified life (Romans 6:14; 8:12-14, etc.).

There’s no excuse for sinning. If a Christian sins it is always that Christians fault, never God’s fault (James 1:13-15).

1 John 2:1-2

Like the heretic they follow, they teach that it’s your own “natural ability” that you overcome and not by the power and saving grace of the LORD Jesus Christ.  Gal 3:3

Are there sinful tendencies in fallen man? Yes.

Does this mean he is captive to those sinful bents after regeneration? No. In fact, redeemed men have been given complete grace and divine power over all sin (Romans 6; 8:12-14, etc.).

Are sinful men captive to sin before regeneration? Yes. Unregenerate man has no saving grace to overcome sin or to “stop sinning” as some foolishly assert. Sinners “by nature” serve their sinful dictates and the enemy of souls (Ephesians 2:1-3).

Unregenerate man cannot “stop sinning” until he personally meets the only One who came and died to redeem and regenerate him (Galatians 2:20-21; Titus 3:2-7, etc.).

The ability to conquer all sin is the stated will of God and yet that divine ability (Grace = divine ability) does not enter the saved person until he is first saved. So how can someone “stop all sinning” before being saved by grace? Impossible. And, that is unmitigated idolatry, antichrist – putting self before, in place of Christ who alone is Savior and LORD. Repentance is first and foremost turning TO GOD and not turning from sin. If you get these out of order, you are a heretic.

***These people are under the spirit of antichrist. They are touting their own “natural ability” to make the right decisions while denying the need for Christ’s regeneration and present saving, enabling grace (divine influence on their hearts and empowerment in their lives). They deny Christ in that they believe they overcome by their own personal will alone and not by the power and grace of Jesus Christ. John 1:12-13

Hosea 4:6; Colossians 2:18-19

One writer notes:

“The recognition of the sin nature is exactly why must take up the daily cross.  The branch cut away from the wild olive tree and grafted into the new tree still has a residue of the old sap and bark.”

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Apostasy

Biblical Case Against Seminary [podcast]


Satanic Seminarian System

People have to be first indoctrinated in order to go forth and indoctrinate others, their prey. This is the purpose of seminarians.

What could possibly sound more innocent than a man wanting to serve God going to seminary, right?

BEWARE OF THE SEMINARIANS WHO ARE THE SCRIBES AND PHARISEES OF OUR DAY!  Satan loves to use that which sounds noble and spiritual and yet is not biblical. There are no seminaries in the New Testament! And it’s not biblical for a good reason. God’s Divine wisdom. To protect His body. Let’s stay with the Word saints! 

SOME of the most pitiful deceivers I’ve ever conversed with have had a so-called “higher education.” In reality, there’s no such thing as a “higher education” outside of learning directly from the Most High Himself, out of the never-changing, crowning jewel literary work in His universe, the Holy Bible (2 Timothy 3:16-17).

HAVE you noticed the lightweight seminarians who peddle their half-truth false gospel, OSAS, calvinism, etc and how they market their community to build their church busine$$?

We should note that in general Christ warned us to “beware of men.” (Matthew 10:17) Jesus told us to beware of specific classes of sinful men. In doing so perhaps to some degree the Son of God was stereotyping. Here Jesus warns us to beware of the religious leaders (seminarians) and civil rulers and perhaps because they could do the most damage: “And he charged them, saying, Take heed, beware of the leaven of the Pharisees, and of the leaven of Herod.” (Mark 8:15)

The moment Jesus saved us, He inducted us into the school of the Holy Ghost and Word of God! THAT’S how God prepares His people for ministry! Seminary is a cheap substitute, waste of time and money (Psalms 119:105; Acts 1:8; 2 Timothy 2:15, etc.). Christ sends men to the cross and Pentecost (Holy Spirit baptism) and never to the seminaries of mere sinful men.

Who needs a seminary to learn God’s Word? – only a lazy man who refuses to lay down his life in this fleeting world and study to learn God’s Word intimately. Such a man is “not valiant for the truth” and so will be turned over to “strong delusion.” (Jeremiah 9:3; 2 Thessalonians 2:9-12)

“We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts: 20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. 21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.” 2 Peter 1:19-21

Personally, I waste no time on early church fathers or church history. They weren’t ordained, sanctioned by God exclusively to pen the words of Holy Writ, the Bible, which is God’s Word and the highest divine authority (2 Peter 1:19-21; 2 Timothy 2:15; 3:16-17). What’s it matter if you know what they said? The LORD didn’t ordain them to communicate His truth to the world. This does nothing but create confusion (1 Corinthians 14:33). Many would rather listen to what mere men had to say about God and the Bible than to search, study, and learn for themselves what God said in His own Word. The LORD has always instructed His people to study and learn and attend to HIS words (Deuteronomy 4, 6, 11, Isaiah 34:16, etc.).

“Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.” 2 Timothy 2:15

Seminarian Repentance

Attention seminarian or Bible College student, graduate: Not only does seminary not prepare you to be used of God, it gives you many things to unlearn and costs you much more than just a lot of wasted money. The ONE who saved you (if you are in fact saved) is the only ONE who can sanctify and prepare you to serve HIM. Seminary is at its root, apostasy, a departing from God to mere sinful men. If you claim to be born again and yet run to men to prepare you, there should be great concern (Galatians 1:16-17). PLAIN PROOF: Today’s apostate modern so-called “churches” become as they are – ichabod – by way of the jesuit-trained seminarian hirelings who drove them headlong into that apostasy. Seminiarian Apostasy Busted and Exposed!

ONLY JESUS can call, prepare and ordain a man to His work! All other “ordinations” and certifications are a fraud! John 15:16 !!!

There were no seminarians in the New Testament except those of the hell bound pharisees.

GOD is unchanging. Jesus sent no one to seminary. Jesus sends men to the cross then Pentecost! Otherwise a man is not fit for ministry. Seminary does not qualify a man for ministry. No, in fact, seminary puts a man light years behind, having many things he must now denounce and overcome and rid his life of. Repent and denounce all your “higher learning.” Until then, you are on your own, full of foolish pride and rebellion and the LORD will not use you (James 4:6-10). Paul denounced his “higher learning” trophies to know, be known of, and used by the LORD! (Philippians 3).

Despite God’s word commanding men not to boast in their wisdom, and despite being told that “not many wise according to the flesh” are called, today’s evangelical landscape is replete with scribes and pharisees whose default question is, ‘By what authority do you do these things?’ They put their stock in how many credit hours they have obtained at such and such a seminary. Seminary credentials never qualified a man for God’s service, nor does a lack of “formal training” nullify what God approves. Indeed, God has chosen the foolish things of this world to confound the wise (1 Corinthians 1:27) When God calls anyone to a particular task, it matters not if others approve.” Servus Christi

DOES this not sum up what ministry is? Read closely: “For Ezra had prepared his heart to seek the law of the LORD, and to do it, and to teach in Israel statutes and judgments.” (Ezra 7:10)

We must go back further than the “reformation.” Nothing needed to be RE-formed…. because we have a Bible which is the final divine authority (Mark 13:31; 2 Timothy 3:15-17; 2 Peter 1:19-21, etc.). Many of the “reformers” were absolute heretics such as the demon possessed murderous maniac, John Calvin.

YOU see, in seminaries, their premise for teaching church history and about the reformers/reformation is so that their students will be able to discuss such when the topic comes up. But wait, you see THEY, the false priesthood of seminarians are the very ones who created that premise! Called out men must know God’s Word, not church history! SATAN is at work misdirecting men from simply learning God’s Word and walking in the power of the Holy Spirit. So, he’s diverted seminarians from simply learning Scripture using a curriculum that includes pagan prayer practices (contemplative prayer/spiritual formation), church history, and marketing. Jesus never did nor ever will send anyone to a seminary! The Son of God sends men who are truly in His will to the cross and to Pentecost!

Jim Borge writes: “As a young man, I was taught to believe that the Reformation was a great thing. As an older man I have grown to believe that the Church never needed reformation, it needed regeneration.”

IF you went to seminary or Bible college, perhaps the LORD would today lead you to repent of this work of the flesh, denounce it, and announce you utter dependence upon Him! Paul denounced all of his higher education to know and serve Christ (Philippians 3).

Sadly, most seminarians learn the lies of the protestant reformers instead of learning God’s pure Word!

The idea of “reformation” is just another lie and deception. Caution: Paul Washer is a calvinist … we don’t need “reformation” … never did! We need to simply get back to the “old paths” which is the Holy Scriptures! (Jeremiah 6:16) The LORD has given us “ALL things” in His Word! (2 Peter 1:3-4) The insidious, lying idea of a “reformation” is that something needs to be re-formed or formed again! But this is another lie from Satan because God’s Word has been perfect from the beginning and has “all” that we need! Beware. The “Protestant Reformation” was full of devils who believed and taught “reformed theology” and the diabolical system of “calvinism.” Run!

Bottom line: EVERYTHING we need God gave us in His Word and it doesn’t seminary to study and learn God’s Word!

Satan’s seminarians are his invention to put the church on ice!

Thinking of going to seminary? Before you do, read this post.

“What one generation tolerates, the next generation will embrace.” John Wesley

YOU show me a church “pastored” by one of Satan’s seminarians and I will show you a cold, dead, apostate sham!

Today the embrace, connection, and fornication between seminaries and the churches is an embracing of that which was tolerated in generations past and has brought epidemic apostasy in the local churches. The Methodist church is a prime example.

John Wesley was the founder of the Methodist church which is now a dead denomination and has been for a long time. Yet, Wesley was a firebrand for Christ who traveled over 150,000 miles by horseback to spread the Gospel of Jesus Christ. He preached over 40,000 messages from God’s Word in his lifetime!

It was only when the Methodist church began requiring it’s preachers to have a seminary degree that the fire of God extinguished (Ichabod) and the Holy Spirit was quenched. Today the Methodist church is dead men’s bones due to trusting in the flesh, degrees, etc., and not desiring and depending on the divine power of the Word and Holy Spirit.

SATAN HAD A PLAN TO ICE THE FIRE OF THE HOLY SPIRIT IN THE CHURCHES AND IT WORKED – AS FAR AS THE VISIBLE BUILDING-BASED CHURCHES GO.

Simple Scheme: If Satan can ice the seminarians, he ices the people they speak to.

The seminary church system has never nor ever will work to fulfill God’s stated will for His New Testament church. It’s a satanic fraud and counterfeit that has replaced the stated will of the LORD! “Antichrist” means simply “in place of.”

The Pharisees

The hell bound hypocritical pharisees were the seminarians of Christ’s day (Matthew 23).

EVERY catholic priest is seminary trained. What does that tell you?

Calvinistic wolves posing as pastors are seminarian graduates.

What does that tell you? Jude 3-4

Today they control nearly all building based churches.

But wait, don’t men who servant lead need to know the Word? Yes, but that in no way necessitates a “higher learning” center where mere men are in control and inevitably will contaminate.

MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“It does take a little training to rightly divide the Word. Of Truth.”

REPLY:
Yes it sure does …. no seminarian needed which without fail indoctrinates it’s students with extra-biblical heresies no different than the training received by the pharisees/false leaders/seminarians of Christ’s day (Mark 7:6-9).

ORGANIC, HOME BIBLE FELLOWSHIPS IS THE WAY THE EARLY CHURCH BEGAN AND SHOULD BE FUNCTIONING TODAY (ACTS 2:42-47).

Beware of the Seminary Salesmen!

Interestingly, when one searches the internet concerning the case for or against seminary training, he may just find this to be the only piece written from a biblical perspective and against seminary training. In perusing some of the many pro-seminary articles, one will search in vain to find much, if any Scripture. These pro-seminary sales pieces were apparently written by seminarians – using little or no Scripture. One thing is for certain: Jesus and His apostles never once instructed anyone to go to a higher learning facility.

TRULY REPENTING, surrendering your whole being, reputation, and will to Christ, getting baptized with the Holy Ghost, and organically studying God’s Word is the divine equipment for ministry, not seminary!

GOD NEVER CALLED ANYONE TO GET A SEMINARY DEGREE. IF SO JESUS WOULD HAVE TOLD HIS 12 TO GO TO A “HIGHER LEARNING” INSTITUTION. NO, JESUS CALLED HIS 12 AND IS CALLING US TO DIE – TO DENY SELF, TAKE UP THE CROSS, AND FOLLOW HIM! LET’S REPENT SAINTS, THAT’S WHERE IT ALL STARTS, BEGINNING WITH A DIVINE REFRESHING IN OUR SPIRITS! (ACTS 3:19)

Paul had more “higher learning” than 10 seminarians combined and he denounced it all as “dung” (crap) to know and to learn and to teach Christ! Study Philippians 3 afresh.

Jesus led Paul to denounce all of his higher learning – read Philippians 3 afresh with this in mind … he counted it dung … when I did this – denounced my formal education – the LORD delivered me and there was an increased anointing …. only Jesus can ordain us and anoint us to do HIS work – “Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.” John 15:16

THE FRUIT OF THE MODERN CHURCHES IS CLEAR PROOF THAT SATAN IS AT THE ROOT OF THE SEMINARIANS WHO’VE DRIVEN THEM INTO APOSTASY!

Biblical Christian training does not involve organizations or institutions of sinful men – whose fruit reflects that of the sham false leaders of Christ’s day – who “love the praise of men more than the praise of God” (John 12:43) and set aside God’s Word to keep their own tradition (Mark 7:6-9). No institution of men needed for deep, thorough, organic, Spirit filled study of God’s Word. Jesus and His apostles never once instructed any person to go to a higher learning institution. In fact the seminarians of Christ’s day mocked the very Son of God specifically for not having a degree or the approval of sinful religious men (John 7:16-18).

To illustrate how indoctrinated seminarians become and why …. Have you ever noticed that when you see seminary students in coffee shops laboriously studying, you can spot them from a mile away – because they carry 3-10 commentary books of mere men around. That’s their curriculum instead of pure Scripture. Sometimes you can’t even find a Bible in the midst of their many books and when you do, it’s a lame, corrupted new per-version. SMH   New Bible Versions and the Satanic Frauds who Invented them Busted and Exposed.

THERE’S A HUGE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN LEADING PEOPLE THROUGH SCRIPTURE AND INDOCTRINATING THEM IN EXTRA-BIBLICAL THEOLOGY SUCH AS THE DIABOLICAL SYSTEM OF CALVINISM/REFORMED THEOLOGY WHICH IS INTENTIONALLY DONE AT SEMINARIES.

One brother illustrates seminaries this way:

“Many colleges are just glorified roach motels…those who go in are infected and go back to infect the entire colony.” Nathan Noyes

JESUS told a seminarian of His day that he had to be “born again.” (John 3:3, 7) Obviously this man was not right with God. Nicodemus was a Pharisee and a member of the Sanhedrin mentioned in three places in the Gospel of John: He first visits Jesus one night to discuss Jesus’ teachings (John 3:1–21). Obviously Nicodemus was not a member of Christ’s family yet. This is clear, landmark proof that being religious and/or a leader in a religion or movement assures not that a person is truly a child of God. Hell is full of religious leaders, most of which are “false” according to Jesus (Matthew 7:15; 24:1,24; 1 John 4:1, etc.). The LORD never designed for His people to go to a school of “higher learning” but rather to receive the only Higher learning available – directly from the MOST HIGH Himself! Remember how the LORD told Ezekiel to simply eat His Word and then go speak those words? (Ezekiel 3)

The rebel at heart will do anything and everything except truly repent. He will mask his rebellion by spending several years and a small fortune to obtain a seminary degree, but like the hell bound false leaders of Jesus’ day, he will not repent.

“He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me.” Mark 7:6

The profile of the seminarian is that he seeks the approval of sinful men and not God.

“And he said unto them, Ye are they which justify yourselves before men; but God knoweth your hearts: for that which is highly esteemed among men is abomination in the sight of God.” Luke 16:15

Sinful men always wants to insert themselves, legitimize and attempt to make prestigious their own personal certification and institutions where they reign and complicate the simplicity of divine truth and its instruction. Beware.

“Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. 6 In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths. 7 Be not wise in thine own eyes: fear the LORD, and depart from evil.” Proverbs 3:5-7 

Seminary will never make up for your refusal to authentically repent and get a real life with Christ! John 15:16

Personally, upon having attended 2 Bible colleges, I realized that many of the student, even those in their 4th year, were admittedly not born again. The fruit was obviousl

THERE was no such thing as a priesthood of professional clergy in Christ’s day or in the days of early church! (as far as HIS true kingdom is concerned) In fact, it wasn’t until the antichrist roman catholic cult formed that such a priesthood was instituted and has brought untold destruction since! In short, they’ve replaced the pure worship of Christ with everything under the sun! Jesus saw this coming and prophetically warned us about this when He said “Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.” (Matthew 7:15) Oh and “And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.”(Matthew 24:11) ….. Do you understand the import of Ezekiel 22:25-27? Here it is:

“There is a conspiracy of her prophets (false leaders) in the midst thereof, like a roaring lion ravening the prey; they have devoured souls; they have taken the treasure and precious things; they have made her many widows in the midst thereof. 26 Her priests (leaders) have violated my law (Word), and have profaned mine holy things: they have put no difference between the holy and profane, neither have they shewed difference between the unclean and the clean, and have hid their eyes from my sabbaths, and I am profaned among them. 27 Her princes in the midst thereof are like wolves ravening the prey, to shed blood, and to destroy souls, to get dishonest gain.” Ezekiel 22:25-27

The seminary system we see since the early New Testament centuries into the now is a clear manifestation and fulfillment of this prophecy given us by the LORD’s prophet Ezekiel. Exactly as Ezekiel warned, today there is a “conspiracy” among the fraternal order of seminarians who have a stronghold on the denominational franchises they run. Also as the prophet revealed “Her priests (leaders) have violated my law (Word).” (v26) The false prophet seminarians are man-fearing, man-pleasing hirelings who refuse to acknowledge, study, and preach the whole counsel of God’s Word (2 Timothy 4:1-4). Like the phony false priesthood of Christ’s day, they set aside the Word of God in order to keep the tradition and heresies they learned in seminary (Mark 7:6-9). In fact, this is a central biblical definition of false leaders and what they do – and we “know (discern) them by their fruit.” (Matthew 7:16, 20)

“He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me. 7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. 8 For laying aside (rejecting) the commandment (Word) of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do. 9 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment (Word) of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.” Mark 7:6-9

Satan’s Centralized System

We know from the revelation of Scripture that Satan has a well organized kingdom and uses his human agents and their systems to steal, to kill, and to destroy souls (Ezekiel 22:25-27; John 10:10; Ephesians 6:12).

Seminaries are a centralized organization of mere sinful men. SATAN is the centralizer! Think Babylon/Nimrod (Genesis 11). Think the upcoming centralized antichrist system (Revelation 13-14, 17-18). Yes, it’s God who has ordained that His assemblies of His people be autonomous and not controlled by a “headquarter” committee or centralized organization of modern pharisees who in most cases are indoctrinated into extra-biblical doctrines such as the cult of calvinism. Most pastors today are wolves who can’t even lead souls to Christ and deny the need for the baptism of the Holy Spirit (for starters). Satan always, without fail, perverts the men in control and then doles it out to those downstream (the churches). That’s why he centralizes and we are not ignorant of his devices.” (2 Corinthians 2:11)

For this very reason, for the protection of His people, God never centralized learning because all the enemy has to do is poison headquarters to effect all the people. Well this is exactly what happened when Satan’s order of the vatican’s Jesuits infiltrated the seminaries in the 1950’s and 1960’s. This is exactly what brought about steady apostasy from the truth. This is exactly why the visible modern churches are apostate – departed from the faith of the original Gospel (1 Timothy 4:1-2).
The building-based modern church is corrupted because the focus is on what the vatican trained seminarian who stands to speak says and not the Bible itself.

The Bible itself is the learning source for every saint. God’s Word is His centralized truth! (John 17:17; 2 timothy 3:16-17)

It’s real simple:

  1. Are you genuinely born again?
  2. Can you read?
  3. Do you have a King James Bible?

Case closed: You do not need to go to seminary. If you do, like the majority of seminarians, you may never return to the LORD to be used of Him and worse.

In the early church there were no professional clergymen as we see today in the apostate modern church world. This was Satan’s plan to denigrate and cease the power of the Holy Spirit which was poured out from Jesus on Pentecost and resulted in thousands being saved. Read Acts. At the hands of seminarian wolves, the modern church world is full of entertainment, marketing, and gimmicks and is plainly lukewarm and dead (Revelation 3:15-16). New Testament elders are not seen in the 27 book New Testament canon as those today who lord it over that which claims to be Christ’s flock. No, rather, elders in the early church were those who navigate and feed oversee (1 Peter 5:1-6). They were more like those who moderate the assemblies of God’s people in contrast with the seminary-trained, hi-jack artists we see in place today.

Seminaries are Wolf Factories! Beware!

“Many pastors have destroyed my vineyard, they have trodden my portion under foot, they have made my pleasant portion a desolate wilderness.” Jeremiah 12:10

Nancy Paul Cote writes: “Thanks again for your ministry’s articles. They so hit home and relate to my experiences of error. We were just talking about this in my new Berean Church yesterday. Both my husband and I can attest to this. Both of us were on fire for God and studied the word of God with our church ministries. We started out with an un-compromised Bible (KJB). Then, we listened to many say that to further our education with God we must go to a Bible College to get a degree to be more equipped for Ministry. Well, as we attended Bible College for 4 years I did not see our passion for biblical Truth growing—but declining. There were so many different views and different Bible Versions it only made me less prepared and more confused. We began relying on what the teachers said rather than what the Bible said because we were sure they know more because they had a degree, right? No, it was almost like I had to detoxify myself of all of man’s wisdom and get back into my KJB and fellowship with those with like-minded passion. I did just that in 2014. God has been so good to me. ‘Who is a wise man and endued with knowledge among you? let him shew out of a good conversation his works with meekness of wisdom. But if ye have bitter envying and strife in your hearts, glory not, and lie not against the truth. This wisdom descendeth not from above, but is earthly, sensual, devilish. For where envying and strife is, there is confusion and every evil work. But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be entreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy. And the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace of them that make peace’ (James 3:13-18).”

False leaders have been the demise and damnation of millions. Hell is full of false leaders and those who chose to follow these wolves in sheep’s clothing instead of Christ.

“For the leaders of this people cause them to err; and they that are led of them are destroyed (in hell).” Isaiah 9:16

Jesus never told you to go to seminary. Rather, He commanded you to lay down your life right now and follow Him. Now read these words from Jesus and see if you need seminary to understand this simple truth:

“If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me. 24 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: but whosoever will lose his life for my sake, the same shall save it.” Luke 9:23-24  

Professional clergymen have hi-jacked and ruined the life of Christ from that which feigns to be representing Him. Most of them came from Satan’s seminaries!

Seminarian wolves have hi-jacked the local churches and that’s why true followers of Jesus are gathering organically – without the contamination of professional clergy wolves. Individual believers and true ministers of Christ who are not part of their fraternal, Jesuit-trained order are intentionally shunned in the apostate churches and yet are fulfilling their call like Jesus and His apostles – without a building to contain them from reaching the people.

NEWS FLASH: SATAN CONTROLS THE SEMINARIES, CHURCH SYSTEMS, AND LOCAL CHURCHES.

If your thought and perspective of serving God is the vision of a so-called church building, you do not have a kingdom perspective and are in desperate need of repentance, deep Bible study, and praying that the LORD opens your eyes.

When you truly realize that the MOST HIGH, the very KING of kings saves and ordains you – and you truly fear Him and not men – that will be the only ordination you ever mention or acknowledge! (John 15:16) Those to truly know the LORD and obviously fear Him, do not seek the approval of mere sinful men, especially the “accursed” who preach another gospel (Galatians 1:10). | Pastors According to My Heart (Jeremiah 3:15)

THE TRUE DISCIPLE OF JESUS WILL NOT BE SELF-MADE OR SEMINARY-MADE BUT RATHER SAVIOR-MADE! SELAH! SUCH A MAN DILIGENTLY AND DAILY SEEKS THE FACE OF THE LORD IN A LIFE OF PRAYER AND BIBLE STUDY! LIKE THE ONE HE IS TRULY FOLLOWING, HE SEEKS NO APPROVAL OF MEN.

God never sends any man to seminary. They are self-sent. Jesus says to follow Him: He had no degree and was mocked by the hypocritical religious leaders of His day (John 7:15-18). God has not changed. Those who truly know and follow Christ entered into the school of the Holy Ghost and Word of God the day He saved them!!!

ANY LOCAL CHURCH THAT SEARCHES FOR OR WOULD EVEN TAKE AS AN ELDER A SEMINARIAN WHO HAD NOT REPENTED AND DENOUNCED HIS PHONY SEMINARY DEGREE IS AN APOSTATE CHURCH! JOHN 15:16

In the qualifications for an elder among Christ’s body, can you find the need to be degreed?

Biblical Qualifications for Overseers

“This is a true saying, If a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work. 
2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach; 
3 Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous; 
4 One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity; 
5 (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?) 
6 Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil. 
7 Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil.” 1 Timothy 3:1-7

THERE IS NOT ONE MENTION OF A HIGHER LEARNING DEGREE IN THE BIBLICAL LIST OF QUALIFICATIONS FOR AN ELDER. SUCH HAS BEEN ADDED BY MEN AND DEVILS.

The Son of God Didn’t have a Degree!

“And the Jews marvelled, saying, How knoweth this man letters (Jesus had no degree from sinful men), having never learned? (no formal education)
16  Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me. 
17  If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself. 
18  He that speaketh of himself seeketh his own glory: but he that seeketh his glory that sent him, the same is true, and no unrighteousness is in him.” John 7:15-18

On this passage, William MacDonald, author of the Believer’s Bible Commentary, notes:

“7:15 Those who heard the Savior marveled. Doubtless it was His knowledge of the OT (Scriptures) that impressed them most. But also the breadth of His learning and His ability to teach attracted their attention. They knew that Jesus had never been to any of the great religious schools of that day, and they could not understand how He could have such an education as He did. The world still expresses amazement and often complains when it finds believers with no formal religious training who are able to preach and teach the Word of God.

7:16 Once again it is beautiful to see how the Lord refused to take any credit for Himself, but simply tried to glorified His Father. Jesus answered simply that His teaching was not His own, but that it came from the One who sent Him. Whatever the Lord Jesus spoke and whatever He taught were the things which were the things His Father told Him to speak and to teach. He did not act independently of the Father.

7:17 If the Jews really wanted to know whether His message was true or not, it would be easy for them to find out. If anyone really wills to do God’s will, then God will reveal to him whether the teachings of Christ are divine or whether the Lord was simply teaching what He Himself wanted to teach. There is a wonderful promise here for everyone earnestly seeking the truth. If a person is sincere, and truly wants to know what is the truth, God will reveal it to him. “Obedience is the organ of spiritual knowledge.’”

7:18 Anyone who speaks from himself, that is, according to his own will, seeks his own glory. But it was not so with the Lord Jesus. He sought the glory of the Father who sent Him. Because His motives were absolutely pure, His message was absolutely true. No unrighteousness was in Him.

Jesus was the only One of whom such words could be spoken. Every other teacher has had some selfishness mixed in his service. It should be the ambition of every servant of the Lord to glorify God rather than self.”

Cross-Less Curriculums of Seminaries

“Enemies of the cross of Christ.” Philippians 3:18-19

CHRIST’S KING-DOM IS ALLLL ABOUT KING JESUS!!! AND NOT SOME CHUMP WHO’S BUILDING A CHURCH BUSINESS BY ENTERTAINING SELF-SEEKING GOATS WITH MUSIC AND TONED DOWN CLICHE’S, CATCHY PHRASES AND NEUTERED, “SUCCESS” MESSAGES.

“I once heard a wise old pastor say, ‘The best way to strip a man of his Christianity is to send him to Seminary.’” Gina Martin

“I have learned more from born again evangelists who never went to seminary, than those who did. They preach from the heart, keep the message plain and easy to understand, and know their Bible inside out!! More sacrilege and blasphemy has come from seminaries than I can count here. The Holy Spirit will God us in all we do, if we let Him.” Donna Hawthorne Riegler
Jeff Scholz writes: “God’s anointing is in His word. Even someone who is newly born again that barely reads the Bible, when they pick it up, even for the first time, as soon as they start reading God is already speaking to that individual. The LORD can call and use anybody at any time, any one of His people.”

Saints, the seminaries and their seminarian agents have created a stronghold over many parts of that which claims to be Christendom, smothering and snuffing out the life of Christ. Beware. Pray for understanding and insight and spread the light of truth on this darkness that has blanketed the minds of so many. These are the Nicolaitan devils, the very agents of Satan himself and their false systems and doctrines Jesus says He hates (Revelation 2:6, 15). Nicolaitan Devils Busted and Exposed!

Satan uses seminaries and seminarians in pulpits to produce these false leaders and to intercept and distort that innocence of the new believer who is a new creature in Christ by way of being now born again (2 Corinthians 5:17-18). 

In the vast majority of local churches today, little emphasis is placed on the divine priorities of essential biblical truth such as the divinity and holiness of the LORD, the necessity of the daily cross and prayer, etc.

SEMINARIANS ARE TAUGHT TO READ WHAT OTHER MEN SAY ABOUT THE BIBLE INSTEAD OF SIMPLY STUDYING THE BIBLE FOR THEMSELVES. THEY ARE COMMENTARY INTENSIVE INSTEAD OF SCRIPTURE INTENSIVE!

I’ve been to two Bible colleges and many of those who attended (the students) were not even born again! Many of them openly and laughingly admitted to such!

Having a seminary degree means that someone has been taught well to not personally study and assimilate the whole counsel of God’s Word in an honest manner but rather to manipulate Scripture to teach and defile others which such diabolical systems of theology as calvinism and un-conditional eternal security. Calvinism is the Devil’s System and all who teach it are his wolves! Beware.

True servants of the LORD must be called and prepared by the LORD, not mere men who falsely feign to be Christ’s representatives. | Divine Preparation for Ministry

“Taught of God” …. (1 Thessalonians 4:9)

“The Holy Ghost teacheth”! 1 Corinthians 2:13

Seminary prepares no one for ministry – Only Jesus can do that in the life of the called-out, obedient men who choose to do things HIS way and not man’s way! “for many be called, but few chosen.” (Matthew 20:16)

SAVE YOUR MONEY AND TIME – GO TO THE SAVIOR, NOT SEMINARY!

If Jesus created, found, saved, and called you, can He not prepare you? (John 15:16)

Where is your faith? Is it in men or God? (Hebrews 11:6)

Some would argue that the world is more civilized now than it was 2,000 years ago when Christ came. Nonsense. They therefore argue that seminaries are a product of our enlightened age. Nonsense.

In the first century, we know of certainty that there was much emphasis placed upon the prestigious institutions of higher religious learning. This is further established by the mocking mention of Jesus not having a degree in John 7:15, and Paul’s credentials – being taught at “the feet of Gamaliel” and “an Hebrew of the Hebrews; as touching the law, a Pharisee.” (Acts 22:3; Philippians 3:5) Obviously there were great centers for religious learning, namely Jewish, in the days of our LORD and His apostles. Yet not only do we have not a single instance of Jesus or His apostles sending anyone to a higher learning center, the graduates of those institutions were actually the greatest persecutors of Christ and His apostles. They were antichrists. Nothing has changed! We have the same scenario transpiring all around us today in the professing church world.

There is no hate here toward men but rather the devil who has deceived men, leading them away from God while claiming to be representing Christ …. this subversion is characteristic of “the spirit of antichrist.”

The very reason we don’t have more intense and diligent Bible learning in the church world is due to seminarian leadership. Meditate on this. Seminary is like the catholic cult – designed by the enemy to keep people out of God’s Word for themselves.

The way “the spirit of antichrist” works…. is while feigning to be representing Christ, it misrepresents Christ. Subversive, insidious deception perpetrated against Christ and His people (2 Thessalonians 2:1-12; 1 John 4:3).

ANYONE WHO CRASSLY DISMISSES THE FACT THAT JESUS NEVER SENT ANYONE TO SEMINARY IS ALREADY OPERATING ON HUMAN WISDOM AND NOT GOD’S WISDOM AND IS DESTINED FOR A WASTED LIFE OF WOLFERY!

Seminaries train men to please men, not God. They train men to operate in devil-inspired and man-controlled churches which are apostate, Ichabod!

The Almighty is not impressed with a seminary degree and in fact cannot use you until you repent and denounce it and announce your full and complete dependence upon Him!

Seminaries create a type of brotherhood or fraternal order which causes the sin of respect of persons (Romans 2:11). In this God-less connection, there is respecter of persons which is a clear and sinful violation of God’s Word (James 2:9).

When some Jews got saved, Jesus told them to continue in the Word and as they did they would know His truth and be made free. Christ had all the opportunity in His Universe to direct these new believers to go to some higher learning institution that had set itself up. No such mention from the Son of God! Here it is:

“Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; 32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.” John 8:31-32

Heaven’s King here taught these new believers that His truth – knowing and obeying it – would make them His disciples and make them free. Jesus clearly infers here that they could and would definitely know His truth if they “continued in” His “Word.”

To be Holy Ghost filled is very important per Scripture and yet not enough. You must have both the power and revelation of the Holy Spirit and astute adherence to the “sound doctrine” of Holy Scripture (2 Timothy 2:15; 3:15-17, etc.).

NO, YOU DON’T NEED SEMINARY, YOU NEED THE SAVIOR! MORE OF JESUS IS THE ANSWER AND PREREQUISITE FOR MINISTRY.

“Now when they saw the boldness of Peter and John, and perceived that they were unlearned and ignorant men, they marvelled; and they took knowledge of them, that they had been with Jesus.” Acts 4:13 

Seminaries are an open pit, drawing men who were never called of God in the first place and intercepting, indoctrinating and destroying men who are actually God-called, making them “twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.” (Matthew 23:15).

Many who sign up for seminary see what they view as an easy profession. All they have to do is get the degree and they can send out resumes.  Seminaries are a breeding ground for self glory which is completely contradictory to the teachings of Jesus.

Saints, this pride we see coming from people who claim to be Christian leaders because they attended a seminary is proof of the truth that seminaries do not prepare people to serve God, period. Many are full of self and may God grant repentance. See John 7:18 – “He that speaketh of himself seeketh his own glory: but he that seeketh his glory that sent him, the same is true, and no unrighteousness is in him.”

“Higher learning” is in reality indoctrination, brainwashing.

Is the world getting smarter or dumber? Want to get humbled and embarrassed? Look up the 8th grade primer from just 100 years ago here in America. Most college graduates couldn’t answer near half of those questions. Shocking dumb down! In the same way, preachers of old knew God’s Word and had mountains of Scripture from the King James Bible committed to memory.

EXAMPLE OF THE PROPHESIED GREAT FALLING AWAY / APOSTASY (2 THESSALONIANS 2: NOT 1 SEMINARY TODAY USES THE KING JAMES BIBLE WHICH IS THE PRESERVED WORD OF GOD TO THE ENGLISH SPEAKING PEOPLE OF THE WORLD (PSALMS 12:6-7).

Prayer of Repentance: Father, I here and now acknowledge You and how You alone made, saved, and called me for Your purposes. In the name of Jesus Christ, right this moment, I confess my sin of pride and self-idolatry and for not seeking Your face in this matter. I now see how I went my own way and not Yours. Please forgive me now LORD and instill thy holy fear in my bosom, leading me in Your paths to know and be prepared to be used of You. In Jesus’ name, amen!

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