See if Romans 8:1 is chopped in half in these mere versions of the Bible. Compare to the King James Bible. See if Matthew 17:21 is removed from your “bible”. See if the BLOOD is removed from Colossians 1:14. Also see if the essential word/doctrine of the “only BEGOTTEN Son” is removed. “Begotten” is an essential. See John 3:16, etc. As usual compare to the KJB or better yet just read the real Bible, the KJB. | Was Jesus the “One and Only Son” OR the “Only Begotten Son”? [podcast]
IF YOU DON’T BELIEVE SATAN IS STILL CHANGING GOD’S WORD, SATAN HIMSELF HAS BLINDED YOU! IT’S ALL RIGHT THERE IN THE GARDEN OF EDEN FRIENDS!!!!
“Satan cometh immediately, and taketh away the word …” Mark 4:15
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“Preferring the KJV is fine but calling a reputable translation like the ESV “Satanic” is utterly false. Way to cause division in the body of Christ bro.”
REPLY:
Good morning. “Utterly false”? Actually what you said is utterly false. Are you truly born again? Let’s tour history to find the truth…. WHO is the very first one to cast doubt upon and change God’s words? Hint: Gen 3:1, 4 …. go look. In v 4 SATAN added just 1 3-letter word that led to the fall of mankind…. AND, Jesus told us that it is “SATAN” who “cometh to take away the word” of God (Mark 4:15) Oh and the ESV is published by zondervan who also publishes “The joy of gay sex” and the NIV and satanic bible. f the ESV isn’t a work of Satan, what is? Am I causing division in the body or is satan with this ESV corrupt AND those who back him and support his work? where is the holy conviction? Apparently Satan is having his affect on you as you read his “bible.” I see not 1 Scripture or mention of God on your whole social media page.
You said: “calling a reputable translation like the ESV “Satanic” is utterly false.” – In your deceived, conviction-less mind, just how much corruption, how much butcherment of what God said constitutes a fake, satanically corrupted “bible”? God says any adding to or taking away constitutes ones name being removed from the book of life (Revelation 22:18-19). Repent now.
By Dr. Ken Matto
The English Standard Version is an updated version of the Revised Standard of the National Council of Churches. The NCC has never been a Christian organization but is a Socialist organization like the World Council of Churches. When you purchase an ESV, you are helping fund the NCC which is another enemy of Christ and true Christians. You will see that the ESV is just another rewrite of the corrupted manuscripts which underlie every other modern false version. You will also see that the ESV, like the NIV and the Holman Christian Standard Bible have absolute agreement with the Roman Catholic New American Bible and the Jehovah’s Witness New World Translation.
The ESV is based on the Masoretic text of the Hebrew Bible as found in Biblia Hebraica Stuttgartensia (2nd ed., 1983), and on the Greek text in the 1993 editions of the Greek New Testament (4th corrected ed.), published by the United Bible Societies (UBS), and Novum Testamentum Graece (27th ed.), edited by Nestle and Aland. < From the ESV official Website
The Historic Legacy of the ESV
The ESV stands in the classic mainstream of English Bible translations over the past half-millennium. The fountainhead of that stream was William Tyndale’s New Testament of 1526; marking its course were the King James Version of 1611 (KJV), the English Revised Version of 1885 (RV), the American Standard Version of 1901 (ASV), and the Revised Standard Version of 1952 and 1971 (RSV). In that stream, faithfulness to the text and vigorous pursuit of accuracy were combined with simplicity, beauty, and dignity of expression.
The words and phrases of the ESV grow out of the Tyndale-King James legacy, and most recently out of the RSV, with the 1971 RSV text providing the starting point for the ESV text. Archaic language was brought to current usage and significant corrections were made in the translation of key texts. But throughout, the translators’ goal was to retain the depth of meaning and enduring language that have made their indelible mark on the English-speaking world and have defined the life and doctrine of the church over the last four centuries.
(From the Official ESV Website)
The Newest Attempt by the ESV for accuracy
The ESV is based on the Masoretic text of the Hebrew Bible as found in Biblia Hebraica Stuttgartensia (5th ed., 1997), and on the Greek text in the 2014 editions of the Greek New Testament (5th corrected ed.), published by the United Bible Societies (UBS), and Novum Testamentum Graece (28th ed., 2012), edited by Nestle and Aland. The currently renewed respect among Old Testament scholars for the Masoretic text is reflected in the ESV’s attempt, wherever possible, to translate difficult Hebrew passages as they stand in the Masoretic text rather than resorting to emendations or to finding an alternative reading in the ancient versions. In exceptional, difficult cases, the Dead Sea Scrolls, the Septuagint, the Samaritan Pentateuch, the Syriac Peshitta, the Latin Vulgate, and other sources were consulted to shed possible light on the text, or, if necessary, to support a divergence from the Masoretic text. Similarly, in a few difficult cases in the New Testament, the ESV has followed a Greek text different from the text given preference in the UBS/Nestle-Aland 28th edition. Throughout, the translation team has benefited greatly from the massive textual resources that have become readily available recently, from new insights into biblical laws and culture, and from current advances in Hebrew and Greek lexicography and grammatical understanding.
For hundreds of additional corruptions go to: www.scionofzion.com/kjcomparisons.html
The King James verse will come first with the tampered portion underlined.
KJB – King James Bible
ESV – English Standard Version
NWT – New World Translation of the Jehovah’s Witnesses
NAB – New American Bible of the Roman Catholic Church
Matthew 8:29
KJB: And, behold, they cried out, saying, What have we to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of God? art thou come hither to torment us before the time?
ESV: And behold, they cried out, “What have you to do with us, O Son of God? Have you come here to torment us before the time?”
NWT: And, look! they screamed, saying: “What have we to do with you, Son of God? Did you come here to torment us before the appointed time?”
NAB: With a sudden shriek they cried: “Why meddle with us, Son of God? Have you come to torture us before the appointed time?”
Matthew 17:21
KJB: Howbeit this kind goeth not out but by prayer and fasting.
ESV: Omitted
NWT: Omitted
NAB: [This kind does not leave but by prayer and fasting.] (Placed in Brackets)
Matthew 18:11
KJB: For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost.
ESV: Omitted
NWT: Omitted
NAB: Omitted
Matthew 19:9
KJB: And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.
ESV: And I say to you: whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another, commits adultery.”
NWT: I say to you that whoever divorces his wife, except on the ground of fornication, and marries another commits adultery.”
NAB: I now to say to you, whoever divorces his wife (lewd conduct is a separate case) and marries another commits adultery, and the man who marries a divorced woman commits adultery.”
Matthew 27:35
KJB: And they crucified him, and parted his garments, casting lots: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, They parted my garments among them, and upon my vesture did they cast lots.
ESV: And when they had crucified him, they divided his garments among them by casting lots.
NWT: When they had impaled him they distributed his outer garments by casting lots.
NAB: When they had crucified him, they divided his clothes among them casting lots.
Mark 6:11
KJB: And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear you, when ye depart thence, shake off the dust under your feet for a testimony against them. Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city.
ESV: And if any place will not receive you and they will not listen to you, when you leave, shake off the dust that is on your feet as a testimony against them.”
NWT: And wherever a place will not receive you nor hear you, on going out from there shake off the dirt that is beneath your feet for a witness to them”
NAB: If any place will not receive you or hear you, shake its dust from your feet in testimony against them as you leave.
Mark 9:44, 46
KJB:{ 44} Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched. {46} Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
ESV: Omitted
NWT: Omitted
NAB: Omitted
Mark 11:26
KJB: But if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespasses.
ESV: Omitted
NWT: Omitted
NAB: Omitted
Mark 15:28
KJB: And the scripture was fulfilled, which saith, And he was numbered with the transgressors.
ESV: Omitted
NWT: Omitted
NAB: Omitted
Luke 2:33
KJB: And Joseph and his mother marvelled at those things which were spoken of him.
ESV: And his father and his mother marveled at what was said about him.
NWT: And its father and mother continued wondering at the things being spoken about it.
NAB: The child’s father and mother were marveling at what was being said about him.
Luke 4:4
KJB: And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.
ESV: And Jesus answered him, “It is written, ‘Man shall not live by bread alone.'”
NWT: But Jesus replied to him: “It is written, ‘Man must not live by bread alone.'”
NAB: Jesus answered him, “Scripture has it, ‘Not on bread alone shall man live.'”
Luke 9:55
KJB: But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of.
ESV: But he turned and rebuked them.
NWT: But he turned and reproved them
NAB: He turned toward them only to reprimand them.
Luke 9:56
KJB: For the Son of man is not come to destroy men’s lives, but to save them. And they went to another village.
ESV: And they went on to another village.
NWT: So they went to a different village.
NAB: Then they set off for another town.
Luke 17:36
KJB: Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
ESV: Omitted
NWT: Omitted
NAB: Omitted
Luke 23:17
KJB: (For of necessity he must release one unto them at the feast.)
ESV: Omitted
NWT: Omitted
NAB: Omitted
Luke 23:38
KJB: And a superscription also was written over him in letters of Greek, and Latin, and Hebrew, THIS IS THE KING OF THE JEWS.
ESV: There was also an inscription over him, “This is the King of the Jews.”
NWT: There was also an inscription over him: “This is the king of the Jews.”
NAB: There was an inscription over his head: “THIS IS THE KING OF THE JEWS.”
John 3:15
KJB: That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
ESV: that whoever believes in him may have eternal life.
NWT: that everyone believing in him may have everlasting life.
NAB: that all who believe may have eternal life in him.
John 5:3
KJB: In these lay a great multitude of impotent folk, of blind, halt, withered, waiting for the moving of the water.
ESV: In these lay a multitude of invalids–blind, lame, and paralyzed.
NWT: In these a multitude of the sick, blind, lame and those with withered members, was lying down.
NAB: were crowded with sick people lying there blind, lame or disabled [waiting for the movement of the water.]
John 5:4
KJB: For an angel went down at a certain season into the pool, and troubled the water: whosoever then first after the troubling of the water stepped in was made whole of whatsoever disease he had.
ESV: Omitted
NWT: Omitted
NAB: Omitted
John 6:47
KJB: Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.
ESV: Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever believes has eternal life.
NWT: Most truly I say to YOU, He that believes has everlasting life.
NAB: Let me firmly assure you, he who believes has eternal life.
John 16:16
KJB: A little while, and ye shall not see me: and again, a little while, and ye shall see me, because I go to the Father.
ESV: “A little while, and you will see me no longer; and again a little while, and you will see me.”
NWT: In a little while you will behold me no longer, and again, in a little while you will see me.”
NAB: Within a short time you will lose sight of me, but soon after that you shall see me again.”
Acts 2:30
KJB: Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;
ESV: Being therefore a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him that he would set one of his descendants on his throne,
NWT: Therefore, because he was a prophet and knew that God had sworn to him with an oath that he would seat one from the fruitage of his loins upon his throne.
NAB: He was a prophet and knew that God had sworn to him that one of his descendants would sit upon his throne.
Acts 7:37
KJB: This is that Moses, which said unto the children of Israel, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear.
ESV: This is the Moses who said to the Israelites, ‘God will raise up for you a prophet like me from your brothers.’
NWT: “This is the Moses that said to the sons of Israel, ‘God will raise up for you from among YOUR brothers a prophet like me.’
NAB: This Moses is the one who said to the Israelites, ‘God will raise up for you from among your kinsmen a prophet like me.’
Acts 8:37
KJB: And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.
ESV: Omitted
NWT: Omitted
NAB: Omitted – Takes half of verse 36 as verse 37
Acts 24:7
KJB: But the chief captain Lysias came upon us, and with great violence took him away out of our hands,
ESV: Omitted
NWT: Omitted
NAB: Omitted
Romans 1:16
KJB: For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
ESV: For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the Greek.
NWT: For I am not ashamed of the good news; it is, in fact, God’s power for salvation to everyone having faith, to the Jew first and also to the Greek.
NAB: I am not ashamed of the gospel. It is the power of God leading everyone who believes in it to salvation, the Jew first, then the Greek.
Romans 8:1
KJB: There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
ESV: There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.
NWT: Therefore those in union with Christ Jesus have no condemnation.
NAB: There is no condemnation now for those who are in Christ Jesus
Romans 11:6
KJB: And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.
ESV: But if it is by grace, it is no longer on the basis of works; otherwise grace would no longer be grace.
NWT: Now if it is by undeserved kindness, it is no longer due to works; otherwise, the undeserved kindness no longer proves to be undeserved kindness.
NAB: But if the choice is by grace, it is not because of their works-otherwise grace would not be grace
Romans 16:24
KJB: The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.
ESV: Omitted
NWT: Omitted
NAB: Omitted – They take part of verse 23 for verse 24
1 Corinthians 6:20
KJB: For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God’s.
ESV: for you were bought with a price. So glorify God in your body.
NWT: for you were bought with a price. By all means, glorify God in the body of YOU people.
NAB: You have been purchased, and at a price. So glorify God in your body.
1 Corinthians 7:39
KJB: The wife is bound by the law as long as her husband liveth; but if her husband be dead, she is at liberty to be married to whom she will; only in the Lord.
ESV: A wife is bound to her husband as long as he lives. But if her husband dies, she is free to be married to whom she wishes, only in the Lord.
NWT: A wife is bound during all the time her husband is alive. But if her husband should fall asleep [in death], she is free to be married to whom she wants, only in [the] Lord.
NAB: A wife is bound to her husband as long as he lives. If her husband dies she is free to marry, but on one condition, that it be in the Lord.
1 Corinthians 15:47
KJB: The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.
ESV: The first man was from the earth, a man of dust; the second man is from heaven.
NWT: The first man is out of the earth and made of dust; the second man is out of heaven.
NAB: The first man was of earth, formed from dust, the second is from heaven.
Galatians 3:1
KJB: O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you?
ESV: O foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you? It was before your eyes that Jesus Christ was publicly portrayed as crucified.
NWT: O senseless Galatians, who is it that brought you under evil influence, you before whose eyes Jesus Christ was openly portrayed impaled?
NAB: You senseless Galatians! Who has cast a spell over you-you before whose eyes Jesus Christ was displayed to view upon his cross?
Galatians 3:17
KJB: And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect.
ESV: This is what I mean: the law, which came 430 years afterward, does not annul a covenant previously ratified by God, so as to make the promise void.
NWT: Further, I say this: As to the covenant previously validated by God, the law that has come into being four hundred and thirty years later does not invalidate it, so as to abolish the promise.
NAB: My point is this: a covenant formally ratified by God is not set aside as invalid by any law that came into being four hundred and thirty years later, nor is its promise nullified.
Ephesians 3:9
KJB: And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:
ESV: and to bring to light for everyone what is the plan of the mystery hidden for ages in God who created all things,
NWT: and should make men see how the sacred secret is administered which has from the indefinite past been hidden in God, who created all things.
NAB: and to enlighten all men on the mysterious design which for ages was hidden in God, the Creator of all.
Ephesians 3:14
KJB: For this cause I bow my knees unto the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,
ESV: For this reason I bow my knees before the Father,
NWT: On account of this I bend my knees to the Father,
NAB: This is why I kneel before the Father
Ephesians 5:30
KJB: For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.
ESV: because we are members of his body.
NWT: because we are members of his body.
NAB: for we are members of his body.
Colossians1:14
KJB: In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:
ESV: in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins.
NWT: by means of whom we have our release by ransom, the forgiveness of our sins.
NAB: Through him we have redemption, the forgiveness of our sins.
1 Thessalonians 1:1
KJB: Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus, unto the church of the Thessalonians which is in God the Father and in the Lord Jesus Christ: Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.
ESV: Paul, Silvanus, and Timothy, To the church of the Thessalonians in God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ: Grace to you and peace.
NWT: Paul and Silvanus and Timothy to the congregation of the Thessalonians in union with God the father and [the] Lord Jesus Christ: May YOU have undeserved kindness and peace.
NAB: Paul, Silvanus, and Timothy, to the church of the Thessalonians who belong to God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ. Grace and peace be yours.
1 Timothy 2:7
KJB: Whereunto I am ordained a preacher, and an apostle, (I speak the truth in Christ, and lie not;) a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and verity.
ESV: For this I was appointed a preacher and an apostle (I am telling the truth, I am not lying), a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and truth.
NWT: For the purpose of this witness I was appointed a preacher and an apostle-I am telling the truth, I am not lying-a teacher of nations in the matter of faith and truth.
NAB: I have been made its herald and apostle (believe me, I am not lying but speak the truth), the teacher of the nations in the true faith
1 Timothy 3:16
KJB: And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
ESV: Great indeed, we confess, is the mystery of godliness: He was manifested in the flesh, vindicated by the Spirit, seen by angels, proclaimed among the nations, believed on in the world, taken up in glory.
NWT: Indeed, the sacred secret of this godly devotion is admittedly great: ‘He was made manifest in flesh, was declared righteous in spirit, appeared to angels, was preached about among the nations, was believed upon in [the] world, was received up in glory.
NAB: Wonderful, indeed, is the mystery of our faith, as we say in professing it: “He was manifested in the flesh, vindicated in the Spirit; Seen by the angels; preached among the Gentiles, Believed in throughout the world, taken up in glory.”
Hebrews 7:21
KJB: (For those priests were made without an oath; but this with an oath by him that said unto him, The Lord sware and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec:)
ESV: but this one was made a priest with an oath by the one who said to him: “The Lord has sworn and will not change his mind, ‘You are a priest forever.'”
NWT: (for there are indeed men that have become priests without a sworn oath, but there is one with an oath sworn by the One who said respecting him: “Jehovah has sworn (and he will feel no regret), ‘You are a priest forever,’ “)
NAB: unlike Jesus to whom God said: “The Lord has sworn, and he will not repent: ‘You are a priest forever, according to the order of Melchizedek. ‘ ”
1 Peter 1:22
KJB: Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently:
ESV: Having purified your souls by your obedience to the truth for a sincere brotherly love, love one another earnestly from a pure heart,
NWT: Now that YOU have purified YOUR souls by [YOUR] obedience to the truth with unhypocritical brotherly love as the result, love one another intensely from the heart.
NAB: By obedience to the truth you have purified yourselves for a genuine love of your brothers; therefore, love one another constantly from the heart.
1 John 5:7-8
KJB: For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. 8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.
ESV: (7) For there are three that testify (8) the Spirit and the water and the blood; and these three agree.
NWT: {7} For there are three witness bearers, {8} the spirit and the water and the blood, and the three are in agreement.
NAB: {7} Thus there are three that testify: {8} the Spirit, and the water and the blood-and these three are of one accord.
1 John 5:13
KJB: These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.
ESV: I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God that you may know that you have eternal life.
NWT: I write you these things that you may know that you have life everlasting, you who put your faith in the name of the Son of God
NAB: I have written this to you to make you realize that you possess eternal life-you who believe in the name of the Son of God.
Revelation 1:8
KJB: I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.
ESV: “I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.”
NWT: “I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says Jehovah God, “the One who is and who was and who is coming, the Almighty.”
NAB: The Lord God says, “I am the Alpha and the Omega, the One who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty!”
Revelation 1:11
KJB: Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.
ESV: saying, “Write what you see in a book and send it to the seven churches, to Ephesus and to Smyrna and to Pergamum and to Thyatira and to Sardis and to Philadelphia and to Laodicea.”
NWT: saying: “What you see write in a scroll and send it to the seven congregations, in Ephesus and in Smyrna and in Pergamum and in Thyatira and in Sardis and in Philadelphia and in Laodicea.
NAB: which said, “Write on a scroll what you now see and send it to the seven churches: to Ephesus, Smyrna, Pergamum, Thyatira, Sardis, Philadelphia and Laodicea.”
Revelation 5:14
KJB: And the four beasts said, Amen. And the four and twenty elders fell down and worshipped him that liveth for ever and ever.
ESV: And the four living creatures said, “Amen!” and the elders fell down and worshiped.
NWT: And the four living creatures went saying: “Amen!” and the older persons fell down and worshiped.
NAB: The four living creatures answered, “Amen,” and the elders fell down and worshiped.
Revelation 20:12
KJB: And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
ESV: And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Then another book was opened, which is the book of life. And the dead were judged by what was written in the books, according to what they had done.
NWT: And I saw the dead, the great and the small, standing before the throne, and scrolls were opened. But another scroll was opened; it is the scroll of life. And the dead were judged out of those things written in the scrolls according to their deeds.
NAB: I saw the dead, the great and the lowly, standing before the throne. Lastly among the scrolls, the book of the living was opened. The dead were judged according to their conduct as recorded on the scrolls.
Revelation 21:24
KJB: And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.
ESV: By its light will the nations walk, and the kings of the earth will bring their glory into it,
NWT: And the nations will walk by means of its light, and the kings of the earth will bring their glory into it.
NAB: The four living creatures answered, “Amen,” and the elders fell down and worshiped.
Verses marked (NWT) are from the New World Translation. Copyright 1961 by the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania.
Verses marked (NAB) are from the New American Bible, copyright 1970 by the Confraternity of Christian Doctrine, Washington, D.C. (St. Joseph’s Edition)
Verses marked ESV are from: The Holy Bible, English Standard Version™ Copyright © 2001 by Crossway Bibles, a division of Good News Publishers All rights reserved.
Scripture verses marked KJB are from the King James Bible in which God gives us permission to use all 31,101 verses. That is because you can copyright man’s words but not God’s Words! Think about it!
After reading the comparisons, there are only two summaries which can be arrived at: 1) The ESV is as corrupt as the NWT, or 2) The NWT is as accurate as the ESV
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Excerpt from the book Lie of the Ages
Does John 10:27-29 Prove “Eternal Security”?
WHO are Jesus’ Sheep? Defined by, in God’s Word.
John 10:27-29
“My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father’s hand.” ~ John 10:27-29
Verse 27 is the condition necessary to appropriate the promises of verses 28-29.
Those who believe that a man can never lose his salvation, use this John 10:28-29 text but ignore the prerequisite, the divinely given condition – v27. Watch this:
Firstly, in this passage Jesus identifies those sheep whom He makes the security promise to. He says, “My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me.” In this we see one part divine and two parts the responsibility of the individual:
- “I know them”—the divine part toward those who are truly in Christ, presently abiding (v. 27)
- Those who are His sheep “hear” His “voice” and “follow” Him—the individual’s responsibility (v. 27)
The promise to be kept is a conditional promise which requires that we choose to continue to hear His voice and follow Him (John 10:27-29). Many today wrongly detach our LORD’s words in verse 27 from verses 28-29. In doing so, they perpetrate their “eternal security” mythology.
The problem for the eternal securists is that v27 has been intentionally been ignored…. It’s the actual condition Jesus gives for receiving the assurance promises He then gives in v28-29.
Those who seek to spread the “once saved always saved” heresy use John 10:28-29 to their advantage and conveniently ignore the preceding words of Christ in verse 27. Verses 28-29 are promises of security to those who have been genuinely born again and are currently abiding in Christ – hearing His voice and following Him (John 15:1-6). Many ignore the previous qualifying words (v. 27) of Jesus where Christ tells us that only those who are hearing His voice and following Him are promised that they are secure and will never perish. There is a condition to being secure in Christ—knowing Him—which requires continuing to abide in Him, hear His voice and follow Him (see also John 15).
“Jesus will neither leave us nor forsake us, but we can leave and forsake Him by choosing our sins OVER His love, grace and mercy!” Dino Filardo
Eternal securists have been taught to selectively interpret Scripture while ignoring mountains of Bible truth, in order to come to a predetermined conclusion.
Many a false teacher has built his own ministry empire dishonestly peddling this passage. Take a closer look. Anchor the promise to be kept in verses 28-29 on verse 27 where Jesus identifies who His sheep are – those who hear and continue to hear His voice and continue to follow Him (present tense). The promise to be kept is a glorious and yet conditional promise which requires that the individual recipient of the salvation gift of God chooses to continue to hear His voice and follow Him (John 10:27-29). Many today wrongly detach our LORD’s words in verse 27 from verses 28-29 of John 10. In doing so, they perpetrate their “eternal security” or otherwise called “once saved always saved” mythology. Beware as this was the first lie Satan told mankind, which led to the fall (Genesis 2:17; 3:4).
Instead of synthesizing the whole of Scripture, false teachers isolate certain verses for their own self-serving agenda and purpose (2 Corinthians 2:17, etc.).
The sheep Jesus’ promises are going to be kept are those who endure to the end, abide (remain) with Him (John 15:1-6). The Great Shepherd defines His sheep as those who are presently hearing His voice and following Him (present tense). John 10:27-29
It’s not difficult to mislead people in the direction of the sinful nature of their hearts – because then they can evade truly repenting which is a major life change and necessity for salvation. This is why Paul foretold of this hour and how men would “heap to themselves (false) teachers having itching ears.” (2 Timothy 4:3) “Itching ears” here represents unrepentant hearts.
OSAS people make a vain attempt at redefining the words of Scripture to fit their own self-serving agenda of lukewarmness, cross-less rebellion. For example they hyper-focus on “eternal” in the term “eternal life” while intentionally refusing to synthesize the whole of what Scripture states. They hyper-focus on the word “gift” and teach that a gift could never be lost which the rest of Scripture does not agree with. They then take the word “sealed” and make it to be permanent which it cannot possibly be because the same Greek word for “sealed” is used of Jesus’ tomb which we all know was NOT permanently sealed (Matthew 27:66). In this they bear false witness against the LORD and act like some Scriptures are more divinely inspired than others. This practice reveals the evil and deceit of their own hearts. Not just some Scripture in the Bible but rather “ALL scripture is given by inspiration of God…” (2 Timothy 3:16-17) It must all be synthesized, put together, compared (1 Corinthians 2:13). Error will result in the hearts and lives of those who do not search, study, and revere “ALL scripture” in God’s Word.
Eternal security deceivers don’t want to talk about Bible verses that contradict and expose their proof texts. You see, they don’t want to get awaken by the truth to the scam they’ve bought into. The wolves who they gullibly believe instead of God’s Word, taught them to cry “context, context” all while THEY are the beguilers who are taking Scripture out of context. Just like the demonic democrats in America, they accuse their adversaries of the exact thing THEY themselves are guilty of (Romans 2:1-3).
YOU are defending OSAS and yet you gave no Bible verses? Self-deception. If “once saved always saved” were true, WHY O WHY didn’t God tell us? Such a term, phrase, or concept appear no where in Scripture and the verses you use to “prove” it are taken out of their context. OSAS is undeniably the very first lie Satan ever told and it led to the fall of mankind from a HOLY God (Genesis 2:17; 3:4). If OSAS isn’t a doctrine of devils, nothing is! (1 Timothy 4:1-2)
Is the unchanging, Almighty God no longer “Holy, holy, holy” now that He sent His only begotten Son? (Isaiah 6:3; Revelation 4:8) If He’s still holy, no unrepentant person with sin will enter His holy Heaven (Revelation 21:8, 27, etc.).
“Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord:” Hebrews 12:14
HOW is it that so many treat the words of JESUS recorded in John 10 more divinely authoritative than the words of JESUS recorded in John 15? False teachers.
Most of the dupes who cite John 10:28-29 to “prove” they can never lose their salvation, 1. Don’t even know what the preceding verse says (v27), and 2. Have no clue what JESUS says in John 15:6.
“If a man abide (remain) not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.” John 15:6
In this John 10 passage used by the unconditional eternal security crew to peddle their wares, some neglect to look closely at verse 27 to see who Jesus was specifically speaking to when He promised “they shall never perish.” “They” refers to those who “hear my voice” and “follow me.” According to verse 27 the promise of eternal security is conditional. Assurance of salvation is only to those who are presently following Christ. In verse 27 we learn that protection from judgment to come is only to those who are currently 1) hearing His voice, 2) known by Him, and 3) following Him. This is consistent with the message seen in the whole of Holy Writ.
“For if AFTER they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are AGAIN entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. 21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, AFTER they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them. 22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit AGAIN; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.” 2 Peter 2:20-22
WHO did Jesus say His true sheep are?
“My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me” (Jn. 10:27). According to these words of Christ, those who “know” Jesus and “follow” Him are given the promise that they will “never perish.” As long as the follower hears His voice and follows Him, they are assured “eternal life.” This is exactly what the Son of God taught just a few chapters later in John 15 where He says that if a branch that is in Him does not remain or abide in Him, that person will be cut off and cast into the fire (hell).
Those who abide or remain under the shadow of His holy and protective wing shall remain secure in Him (Ps. 91:1). The Good Shepherd here said: “Neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.” No man can pluck us out of His protection except ourselves by our own decisions. We who are abiding are protected from the snare of other men drawing us away as we remain walking with the Son of God. If you’re tucked, you won’t get plucked. If you’re not tucked under the wing of intimacy with Jesus, you will, can, and are likely to be plucked out of His holy hand by your own sinful unbelief. The LORD told us “Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown” (Rev. 3:11).
It’s also notable that those who emphasize John 10 to convince themselves and others that they are “eternally secure”, don’t even know much less acknowledge the words of the Savior in John 15:1-6.
Telling.
“If a man abide (remain) not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.” John 15:6
Jesus taught repeatedly that some would not continue to follow Him (“abide”) and hear His voice and would consequently “fall away.” There is record of some who once believed and then stopped believing (Lk. 8:13; 13:23-30; Jn. 6:66; Acts 8:14-23).
WHY do eternal securists get all upset when their fairy tale is exposed? Well, they are hiding behind the thin veneer of this heresy, feeling all secure, emboldened to live as they please, feeling assured in their lukewarmness and sin … denying Jesus instead of self, refusing to take up the cross that Jesus commanded all who would follow Him truly (Luke 9:23-24). Christ’s apostle Paul speaks of self-serving “enemies of the cross of Christ.” (Philippians 3:18-19) What’s behind this myth? The Psychology of Eternal Security [book]
Another Example of the Twisting of Scripture
The eternal securists seek to justify their OSAS heresy by misusing the following passage…. but in this Paul is speaking of those who go to Heaven, the judgment of saints, and not those who fell away and won’t be there because they will be in hell. They will not be present when this happens….
“Every man’s work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man’s work of what sort it is. 14 If any man’s work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. 15 If any man’s work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.” 1 Corinthians 3:13-15
One More….
Common Objection to Conditional Eternal Security….
“What about Romans 8:38-39 where it says nothing can separate us from the love of God?”
REPLY:
Simple: Notice the word LOVE not life. God will love us all the way into hell if we choose not to repent. His soul will even “weep in secret places for your pride” which comes before destruction (Jeremiah 13:17). The LORD is “Holy, holy, holy,” He’s just, and He will not ever coexist with sin. See the fall of lucifer (Isaiah 14:12-15; Ezekiel 28:13-19; Luke 10:18). The wages of sin is still death and the LORD will damn every soul that dies in sin, with no exception (Psalms 5:4; Habakkuk 1:13; Isaiah 6:3; Romans 6:23; Revelation 4:8; 21:8; 22:11, etc.). Read Jesus’s parable of the prodigal son Lk 15. Did the father love and miss his son? Yes. Did the father (represents God) go chase him down? No. The son who departed had to choose to return. Much truth there. Speaking of Romans, read 11:20-22. Now read 2 Peter 2:20-22 and the book of Hebrews.
1 John 2:19 is often also utilized to “prove” eternal security. Not.
“They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.” 1 John 2:19
Interestingly, the word “never” does not appear in this verse above which is so often used to “prove” OSAS. Let’s read it again with an objective mind. And, also remember what Jesus says about the primary importance of His teaching of the seed and the soil, the sower and the Word:
“And he said unto them, Know ye not this parable? and how then will ye know all parables?” Mark 4:13
The honest student of the whole Counsel of God’s Word knows that numerous clear Bible truths reveal that a saved person can turn away from the LORD, so we know that the apostle John could not possibly be saying that a saved person could never depart from the LORD. In my opinion, this verse is the best argument the eternal security proponent has, yet it’s not enough. There must be two or three witnesses and not just one (2 Cor. 13:1). After a closer examination of this text, one will find that verse 19 does not teach or justify “once saved always saved.” When any one verse is taken to the exclusion of the whole Word of God, one will certainly misunderstand the doctrine of the LORD which can only be apprehended by “study.” (2 Tim. 2:15) This verse is like any other verse of Scripture – it must be taken in light of the entire Counsel of God. The context to be considered is 1 John 2:18-29).
In examining the context in which 1 John 2:19 is set, we see that false teachers whom John calls “many antichrists,” had come and were telling these believers that Jesus was not the Christ (v22).
Let’s look at verses 18 and 19 together:
“Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time. They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.” 1 John 2:18-19
Note here that it is specifically of these “antichrists” that John speaks and says that “if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.”
John was speaking of those who were once saved but then departed from the faith (1 Tim 4:1), they believed and then fell away (Luke 8:12-13) …. then departed from the believers in that fellowship.
Teddy Caldwell writes:
“OSAS insists that those are professing believers, but 1 John 2:18 says such people are antichrists. 1 John 2:22 says an antichrist is one who denies that Jesus is the Christ. Anyone who does that isn’t a believer and isn’t even trying to look like one.”
Concerning 1 John 2:19, Donald Stamps, in the Life in the Spirit Study Bible, writes:
“‘THEY WENT OUT FROM US.’ When the antichrists departed from their fellowship with true believers, they were not in a saving relationship with Christ. This allows for two possibilities: (1) They were never true believers to begin with, or (2) they had once been in a saving relationship with Christ but afterward abandoned their faith in Christ.”
Right here in verse 24 of this passage we see the doctrine of personal responsibility to “remain” in faithful obedience to the LORD or lose one’s place with God (1 Cor. 15:2; Gal. 6:9; Col. 1:23). This is a teaching found throughout Holy Writ – the divine requirement to stay saved or lose all in eternity, “suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.” (Jude 7)
“Let that therefore abide (remain) in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. IF (denotes condition) that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father. And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life.” 1 John 2:24-25
Verse 24 alone tells us that we cannot think that verse 19 means that someone who is at some point in right standing with God can never depart from Him and lose out. Also, verse 25 tells us that “eternal life” (not just rewards) is at stake and the promise contingent upon the believer abiding or remaining in that “which ye have heard from the beginning” which is the Gospel. “Eternal life” is assured as long as one is remaining rooted in Jesus Christ. This is the overwhelmingly consistent message of God’s Word.
In verse 26 John says “These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you.” Verse 19 is written about the deceivers who sought to “seduce” these disciples John was addressing and not of true believers.
With all of Scripture in consideration, we can conclude that 1 John 2:19 is a specific example and not a rule of doctrine.
If you truly wish to search out this matter, let me encourage you to closely examine, break down and study this entire text (1 Jn. 2:18-29). In order to ascertain truth, one must compare the verse in question with all other related Scriptures, beginning with the context in which the verse is set (Isa. 28:9-10; 1 Cor. 2:13).
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“Reformed Theology“, is just a fancy way of saying ‘We know better than Paul, the old testament prophets, even David! And the very apostles who walked with Jesus must be unlearned men or liars.’ Nay, I will not say such a thing of my LORD and Saviour, Christ Jesus. Let God be true, and >every< man a liar.” Jonathan Crane
It’s “ungodly men” who mislead the gullible with the eternal security heresy, and the heretical doctrines and system of calvinism. Jude warned us of just that, as did the prophets (Jude 3-4; Jeremiah 23:17, etc.). Then Jude reminds us of God’s judgment upon His own covenant people who were saved out of Egypt (the world) and then “afterward destroyed.” Then Jude reminds us that God judged the angels, a third of them, who rebelled against Him and were terminated from His domain, Heaven (Isaiah 14:12-15; Luke 10:18; Revelation 12:7-12, etc.).
“For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ. 5 I will therefore put you in remembrance, though ye once knew this, how that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed them that believed not. 6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.” Jude 4-6
The Book of Jude
Greeting
1 Jude, the servant of Jesus Christ, and brother of James, to them that are sanctified by God the Father, and preserved in Jesus Christ, and called:
2 Mercy unto you, and peace, and love, be multiplied.
Judgment on False Teachers
3 Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.
4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.
5 I will therefore put you in remembrance, though ye once knew this, how that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed them that believed not.
6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.
7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
8 Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.
9 Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.
10 But these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves.
11 Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core.
12 These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots;
13 Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever.
14 And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,
15 To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.
16 These are murmurers, complainers, walking after their own lusts; and their mouth speaketh great swelling words, having men’s persons in admiration because of advantage.
A Call to Persevere
17 But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ;
18 How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.
19 These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.
20 But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost,
21 Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.
22 And of some have compassion, making a difference:
23 And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.
Doxology
24 Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy,
25 To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.