By Cheryl MacGrath
In a number of the denominations I’ve been involved in, including at leadership level, a “doctrine of covering” was taught and accepted. And for many, many years, I never questioned this teaching. After all, everyone believed it; the leadership upheld it, so it must be right, right? It is only as the Holy Spirit has impressed me to study the Scriptures more deeply on this teaching that I’ve had to come to terms with the fact that He NEVER originated it! In His infinite grace, He chose to wait patiently for a time when the Spirit of Truth would become dearer to me than the traditions of men.
The teaching on “covering” goes like this. Everyone needs to be accountable to someone who is spiritually his or her superior. This someone may be your cell group leader, the head of a church department or your senior pastor etc. In turn, these leaders receive covering from someone further up the line, for instance a denominational leader or a “recognized” apostle. The necessity for this covering is based on the belief that believers need to be safeguarded from falling into error and/or sin. So, covering is provided by those who are more spiritual than we to protect us from such error. At the top of this pyramid of covering there is quite often a well-known and recognized “name” but the chances of meeting or having any kind of relationship with that person if you are at the bottom of the pyramid are fairly slim. Currently, there are several networks offering this kind of covering to those in some form of church leadership or ministry, more often than not for an annual fee. The annual fee usually provides for the running of the network, and conferences where you can fellowship with others under your particular brand of covering. You may also be denied entrance from one of these networks because you don’t have the appropriate credentials.
One of the strange things about this “covering” teaching is that rarely is anyone asked about their spiritual covering, until they step outside their particular church, denomination or network. However, the minute a believer shows signs of having something important to share with the wider Body of Christ, suddenly all and sundry are interested primarily in that one important question: “Who are you covered by?” It all sounds pretty reasonable except for one problem—it’s NOT FOUND in Scripture. In fact, the early church was taught to rely on the inner anointing to discern the spiritual source of potential ministers. (See 1 John 2:20; 1 John 4:1.)
So, where did this idea originate that believers need to be “covered” in order to serve God and minister within Christ’s Body? Are you, like many others, living your Christian life under the shadow of this fear that without “covering” you dare not minister, preach, pray or do a myriad of other things you’re called to do by the Spirit of God, because you will somehow be ministering without protection?
The purpose of this article is to shed some light on this issue based on scriptural truth. To begin with, though, we need to understand that this need to be covered by a perceived spiritual authority, and the scriptural instruction to submit ourselves to God’s delegated authorities, are NOT necessarily one and the same thing. Furthermore, New Testament authority as demonstrated by Jesus and the first apostles, is servanthood- authority, upholding, strengthening, reinforcing and overseeing the Body from BENEATH, not DOMINEERING, CONTROLLING and RULING from ABOVE. Therefore, it is vital in examining this issue that we begin from a correct understanding of Biblical submission and Biblical authority.
“Let This Mind Be In You”
“Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: 6 who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: 7 but made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: 8 and being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross” (Philippians 2:5-8).
The current mindset we carry in much of the church concerning submission is quite unrelated to the submission taught and demonstrated by Jesus and the early apostles. There is a desperate need to return to the same mind that was in Christ Jesus. The Scripture tells us that though He was equal with the Father, Jesus CHOSE to submit Himself, He CHOSE to humble Himself, He CHOSE to obey. This is the key to Biblical submission, and the model laid down for us by both the Father and the Son.
Submission is firstly a choice; a choice that can only ever be made by the giver. Biblical submission can never be demanded or forced. That kind of relationship is subservience, not submission. Jesus chose to subject Himself to the Father, but the Father “so loved
the world that He GAVE His only begotten Son.” Sacrificial giving and sacrificial submission are married to each other. In the Spirit, you cannot have one without the other. If you try, you will invariably end up with control, dependence and abuse rather than humility, interdependence and grace.
The New Testament concept of submission or subjection, is one of a totally voluntary attitude of giving, of yielding one’s preference and deferring to another. In this way, Jesus as a child was subject to His parents, yet the Scriptures record that He did not even consult them when He was “about His Father’s business” (Luke 2:49, 51).
“It Shall Not Be So Among You”
“Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you” (Hebrews 13:17).
“But Jesus called them to him, and saith unto them, Ye know that they which are accounted to rule over the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and their great ones exercise authority upon them. 43 But so shall it not be among you: but whosoever will be great among you, shall be your minister: 44 and whosoever of you will be the chiefest, shall be servant of all” (Mark 10:42-44).
There is no question that the scriptures instruct each one of us to submit to God’s delegated authority. It is the understanding and the application of that authority we often stumble over. The Bible records that Jesus taught the twelve this Kingdom authority as they walked along the road to Jerusalem. His face had been set toward the cross, and it is certain He was keenly aware of the short time He had left with them. Perhaps He was conversing with His Father about what were the most important lessons He could impart to them during the time that was left. We know that He heard them disputing over who among them was the best “leadership material.” Perhaps Peter, having not long before witnessed Jesus’ transfiguration, thought that gave him special status. Perhaps James and John felt they were more likely candidates for rulership than impetuous Peter. Shortly before, they had asked Jesus to give them special places of honor in His Kingdom. Whatever had started their dispute, Jesus certainly knew how to end it! “And whosoever will be chief among you, let him be your servant” (Matt. 20:27).
The Lord was speaking to a group of people who had grown up under the rule of the Roman empire. The Romans exercised their authority through forced subjection and harsh cruelty. In fact, the literal translation of the words Jesus used in reference to Roman rule mean “to be under the power of” and “to be subdued.” Despite having witnessed Jesus using a very different kind of authority and power, the disciples had not yet understood exactly what He would require of them. The Romans were, in the political sense, their masters. Yet here was Jesus stating that to exercise the authority He was going to invest in them they would need to become slaves to one another, and not masters. One might safely assume these weren’t words any of them particularly wanted to hear that day!
Kingdom authority has nothing to do with titles, positions, educational qualifications or reputation. Kingdom authority is granted by the Lord according to the measure with which He can trust us to wield it with humility. The greatest authority in the Kingdom is reserved for His bond slaves.
What About Accountability?
In today’s church system we have confused the word “covering” with the need for accountability. Consequently, many are holding themselves accountable to people with title and position, regardless of whether or not they are developing an ongoing transparent relationship with that person. In the Kingdom, it is not possible to be truly accountable to those with whom we are not actively growing in relationship. How can I be trusted to call you to account righteously if I don’t love you in Christ? How can you love me with Christ-like love and not call me to account?
Paul was able to correct the Corinthians because he had true relationship with them. He had travailed over them, nurtured them, wept for them and rejoiced with them. Therefore, he was able to reprove them for their edification and not for their destruction. (See 2 Corinthians 13:10.)
When we turn to the Scriptures for guidance on this issue of accountability, a startling fact confronts us. The New Testament mentions accountability ONLY in terms of the believer towards God. The Scripture teaches that we will give accountability TO GOD ALONE in the following areas:
–stewardship (Luke 16:2)
–ourselves (Romans 14:12)
–fruit (Philippians 4:17)
–what we do in the flesh (1 Peter 4:5)
–leaders shall give account for the souls they watch over (Hebrews 13:17)
What then, DO the scriptures teach about how believers, as members of the corporate Body of Christ, are to relate to one another?
“Yea, all of you be subject one to another, and be clothed with humility: for God resisteth the proud, and giveth grace to the humble” (1 Peter 5:5).
In Galatians Chapter Two we read of a journey Paul took to Jerusalem. He states that he went up “by revelation,” that is, at the instigation of the Holy Spirit, in order to confirm that the gospel he had been preaching was approved by the eldership of the Jerusalem church. He goes on to state that: “But of these who seemed to be somewhat, (whatsoever they were, it maketh no matter to me…)” had nothing to add to his teachings. He further adds that when James, Cephas (Peter) and John perceived the grace God had shown him, he was given the “right hands of fellowship.”
At the instigation of the Holy Spirit, Paul had subjected himself to the Jerusalem eldership, including Peter, for the purpose of accountability. One may safely assume that Peter, having spent around three years day and night with Jesus, and highly regarded by the early believers, held very great authority in the church. Paul, however did not ask Peter to cover him. Instead, he did not hesitate in calling Peter to account when Peter was later swayed to go back on his word by the fear of men (Galatians 2:11-14). Bear in mind this is the same Peter who stated: “We ought to obey God rather than men” (Acts 5:29)’
These men understood the nature of relationship through the Holy Spirit; ALL of you be submissive to one another, ALL of you be clothed with humility. Each of us is accountable to one another, whatever our function in the Body, whether apostles, teachers, deacons or helpers. This is the church Christ is building.
To say that we are demonstrating accountability to a person or group of people we may briefly rub shoulders with at a meeting once or twice a week, or perhaps once or twice a year, is ludicrous. True accountability is about how we express Christ in us— our lifestyle, our character and our integrity in families, jobs and church community. This cannot be measured outside godly relationships, and without a humble willingness to be in subjection one to another. Each one of us needs to seek out and submit ourselves to those in the Body the Lord has placed close to us to provide that accountability, regardless of their position, title or function. Each one of us needs to be willing, in humility and service, to provide that same accountability base for others in the Body. This applies to leadership equally as it does to the newest, most inexperienced member of the Christian community.
Sadly, what we see today in so much of the church, is a frenzied jockeying for position under the supposedly protective umbrella of some ministry name or reputation, in order to prove ourselves “covered.” “WHO COVERS YOU?” has become one of the most frequently asked questions among Christians, and too often it is the deciding factor in assessing a ministry’s integrity or otherwise. Consequently, an unsatisfactory answer to that question in some church circles can label you “outside the camp” and almost certainly not to be trusted. Christians are judging each other’s worth and relationship with God on this issue of covering, and using it to justify self-righteousness and spiritual elitism.
In Part Two of this study we will talk about what is at the root of this distorted doctrine, and the clear choices that lie before us in order to be free from it.
PART TWO
“And the Lord will create upon every dwelling place of mount Zion, and upon her assemblies, a cloud and smoke by day, and the shining of a flaming fire by night: for upon all the glory shall be a defence.” Isaiah 4:5
“He shall cover thee with his feathers, and under his wings shalt thou trust: his truth shall be thy shield and buckler.” Psalm 91:4
It’s About His Name
“And it came to pass, that on one of those days, as he taught the people in the temple, and preached the gospel, the chief priests and the scribes came upon him with the elders, 2 and spake unto him, saying, Tell us, by what authority doest thou these things? or who is he that gave thee this authority?” Luke 20:1-2
As we see from these portions of Scripture, the question “who covers you?” is not new. The chief priests, scribes and elders were not simply asking Jesus where His supernatural power came from. More than that, they wanted a NAME. “Who is he? Come on, tell us Jesus, who is the scribe, who is the rabbi, who is the prophet who covers you? And no more of that over-spiritualized talk about your Father. We want the name of the person who said you could do these things!”
The apostle Paul confronted a similar problem in the Corinthian church.
“For it hath been declared unto me of you, my brethren, by them which are of the house of Chloe, that there are contentions among you. 12 Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ. 13 Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul?” 1 Corinthians 1:11-13
The Lord is jealous over us concerning His Name. We were bought and paid for by His blood, and His Name is the only Name by which we are to identify ourselves. When believers choose to find their identity in another name other than His, the Spirit is grieved, and His Name is dis-honored.
It’s About the Flesh
“But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren. 9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven. 10 Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ. 11 But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant.” Matthew 23:8-11
The Corinthians were apparently separating into factions according to whom they considered was the most authoritative teacher. They were following after men, and for that reason Paul took issue with them. Further in his letter he goes on to challenge them by describing this kind of mindset as carnal and fleshly rather than spiritual:
“For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men? 4 For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are ye not carnal?” 1 Cor. 3:3
Finally, he instructs them:
“Therefore let no man glory in men. For all things are yours; 22 whether Paul, or Apollos, or Cephas, or the world, or life, or death, or things present, or things to come; all are yours; 23 and ye are Christ’s; and Christ is God’s.” 1 Cor. 3:21-23
The Corinthians had become so obsessed with the attributes of certain teachers they were idolizing them. They wanted to regard particular individuals as their “master,” “father,” or “teacher,” but Paul wanted them to understand that in doing so they were falling short of their full inheritance in Christ. He wanted them to see that all of these teachers belonged to them as servant-ministers, and not the other way around.
It’s About A Substitute King
At the heart of the Corinthians’ idolatry was the age-old desire for a ruler, a king. The flesh would much rather fear man than fear God. The flesh would much rather submit to the control of law than submit to the freedom of the Spirit. This principle is seen
throughout Scripture.
Afraid they would die, the Israelites begged Moses to be God’s messenger to them, rather than hear His voice for themselves.
“And all the people saw the thunderings, and the lightnings, and the noise of the trumpet, and the mountain smoking: and when the people saw it, they removed, and stood afar off. 19 And they said unto Moses, Speak thou with us, and we will hear: but let not God speak with us, lest we die.” – Exodus 20:18-19
God desired for the people to hear Him for themselves, but they refused. Effectively, the Israelites were elevating Moses as their mediator. The entire nation had been called as a kingdom of priests, but their preference was to be ruled by on man. (See Exodus 19:1-9.)
Many years later, when the prophet Samuel officiated as Israel’s judge, Israel’s carnal desire for a man-king surfaced again:
“Then all the elders of Israel gathered themselves together, and came to Samuel unto Ramah, 5 and said unto him, Behold, thou art old, and thy sons walk not in thy ways: now make us a king to judge us like all the nations.
“6 But the thing displeased Samuel, when they said, Give us a king to judge us. And Samuel prayed unto the Lord. 7 And the Lord said unto Samuel, Hearken unto the voice of the people in all that they say unto thee: for they have not rejected thee, but they have rejected me, that I should not reign over them. 8 According to all the works which they have done since the day that I brought them up out of Egypt even unto this day, wherewith they have forsaken me, and served other gods, so do they also unto thee. 9 Now therefore hearken unto their voice: howbeit yet protest solemnly unto them, and shew them the manner of the king that shall reign over them.
“10And Samuel told all the words of the Lord unto the people that asked of him a king. 11 And he said, This will be the manner of the king that shall reign over you: He will take your sons, and appoint them for himself, for his chariots, and to be his horsemen; and some shall run before his chariots. 12 And he will appoint him captains over thousands, and captains over fifties; and will set them to ear his ground, and to reap his harvest, and to make his instruments of war, and instruments of his chariots. 13 And he will take your daughters to be confectionaries, and to be cooks, and to be bakers. 14 And he will take your fields, and your vineyards, and your oliveyards, even the best of them, and give them to his servants. 15 And he will take the tenth of your seed, and of your vineyards, and give to his officers, and to his servants. 16 And he will take your menservants, and your maidservants, and your goodliest young men, and your asses, and put them to his work. 17 He will take the tenth of your sheep: and ye shall be his servants. 18 And ye shall cry out in that day because of your king which ye shall have chosen you; and the Lord will not hear you in that day.
“19 Nevertheless the people refused to obey the voice of Samuel; and they said, Nay; but we will have a king over us; 20 that we also may be like all the nations; and that our king may judge us, and go out before us, and fight our battles.” (1 Samuel 8:4-20).
The key to Israel’s demand for a human king, rather than the direct reign of Yahweh over them, was “that we also may be like all the nations, and that our king may judge us, and go out before us, and fight our battles.” They wanted a name and a face that could “go out before” them. They wanted someone visible they could show the other nations. They wanted a symbol, a token leader who could take responsibility for how they would live and conduct their lives. They wanted someone with a reputation they could identify with. They wanted to be like the world. They wanted human “covering.”
You see, friends, there is a place for governmental leadership, there is a place for accountability within the Body. There is a place for submission to legitimate God-delegated authority. All these are valid and in order, but only insofar as they are not permitted to substitute for the direct rule of God in our lives. And only insofar as they are not sought out as a counterfeit for the sovereignty and rulership of the Holy Spirit within each believer.
It’s Of A Different Spirit
“Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.” – Ezekiel 28:14
Many Bible scholars agree that God’s rebuke to the “king of Tyre” recorded in Ezekiel 28:1-19 is prophetically addressed to Satan. In it, we find that originally this fallen angel was called the “anointed cherub who covers.” Some scholars believe he was especially anointed to cover the Mercy Seat in the Holy of Holies. In the Presence of God, he walked back and forth in the midst of the fiery stones. The passage states that when iniquity was found in him he was cast out of God’s holy mountain, and removed from the midst of the fiery stones.
This Hebrew word “to cover” means “to hedge, fence about, shut in, block, overshadow, screen, stop the approach, shut off, cover” (H. “cakak” Strongs 05526). It is a word than can be used either in relation to defense or oppression.
Beloved, Satan still desires to walk back and forth in the midst of God’s living, fiery stones. He still desires to be the covering cherub on God’s holy mountain, but the covering he offers is oppressive, designed purely to hinder believers and rob them of the freedom and full potential that is ours through Christ.
The doctrine of covering is an old lie with a new name. It is fundamental to the maintenance of a false hierarchical religious system controlling many Christians in this day. Without the power of this erroneous mindset, it is even doubtful that some sections of the “church” could survive.
“Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace. 4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; 5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism, 6 one God and Father of all, who is ABOVE ALL, and THROUGH ALL, and IN YOU ALL.” – Ephesians 4:3-6
The scriptures plainly state that it is God alone who is OVER all. Only God can
cover His people, and only the Holy Spirit can unite them. The most disturbing aspect about the covering teaching is that it subtly encourages believers to look to men and women rather than develop their own deep relationship with God through the Holy
Spirit. It upholds a man-made church built on hierarchy rather than a spiritual temple built through the unity of the Spirit. It promotes a class system of rulership by title, human appointment and personality, and DEVALUES the PRIESTHOOD of every believer. It negates leadership by the Holy Spirit and discourages believers from hearing the direction of the Spirit for themselves. It is a DOCTRINE OF DEMONS being used to deceive and bind countless believers.
Now, about that freedom we were talking about at the beginning of this article! Don’t, repeat DON’T, use your newfound liberty as a license for rebellion against authority. If you have been trapped in this covering doctrine be wise in how you appropriate your freedom. There are many, many humble and faithful men and women overseeing and serving the Body of Christ with humility and devotion, and it may well be that whoever has been “covering” you is one of them. If you are blessed enough to be aligned with a
servant-leader who demonstrates true biblical authority, honor them, support them, and submit to them. But don’t expect them to cover you—that’s not theirs to give.
False doctrines are mindsets and beliefs that can only be cast down by the Spirit and the Word together. And ultimately, our walk in the Spirit is not the responsibility of leadership; it is our own responsibility. It is time for each one of us to choose—do we want the rulership of kings, or do we want the rulership of THE King?
Finally, let me leave you with these thoughts:
1. Who covered Philip when He went down to Samaria and started a revival? (The apostles heard about it and sent Peter and John down to check it out!) (Acts 8:4-8)
2. Who covered Philip when the angel of the Lord directed him to the Gaza desert? (There’s no record of the Ethiopian eunuch asking him for his “covering” credentials!) (Acts 8:26-40)
3. Who covered Ananias when he was sent to pray for Saul? (He went to pray for a known enemy of the church and didn’t even get permission!) (Acts 9:10-18)
4. Who covered Apollos when he taught boldly in the synagogue, even though he had not yet received the full gospel? (Acts 18:24-25)
5. And who covered Aquilla and Priscilla when they took Apollos under their wing to instruct him further? (Acts 18:26)
6. Who covered Agabus when he travelled down from Judea to deliver a prophetic word to Paul? (Acts 21:10)
The answer is the same in each instance: The Holy Spirit covered, protected, led, and enabled. He is the only covering we need. The real question is this: is He the only covering we want?
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Apostasy
Apostasy Dialogues

“Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; 2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; 3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.” 1 Timothy 4:1-3
One disciple writes: “This modern day false church buildings are just as corrupt minded as those Roman soldiers that–“cast lots for portions of Christ’s torn garment hanging from the blood soaked cross”–making merchandise of the Lords Sufferings—Amen.”
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“His watchmen are blind: they are all ignorant, they are all dumb dogs, they cannot bark; sleeping, lying down, loving to slumber. 11 Yea, they are greedy dogs which can never have enough, and they are shepherds that cannot understand: they all look to their own way, every one for his gain, from his quarter. 12 Come ye, say they, I will fetch wine, and we will fill ourselves with strong drink; and to morrow shall be as this day, and much more abundant.” Isaiah 56:10-12
At times, when people don’t know the Word on a certain topic, they cop out by saying things like “Well, we can’t make that call” or “Well we just don’t know.” There are the “secret things” but that does not include the things God has revealed to us in His Word (Deut. 29:29; Hosea 4:6). Let’s not be ignorant of the Word of God beloved saints.
“My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.” Hosea 4:6
HOW DID JESUS tell us to know/discern others? By the FRUIT of their lives (Matthew 7:16,20). THE FACT that JESUS told us to “know” (discern) people means He wants us to do so! (Matthew 7:16,20) Same chapter as “judge not” (verse 1-5).
Not only are believers to “discern”, we are to teach others to “discern” – to distinguish the difference between truth and error, whole truth and half-truths!:
“And they shall teach my people the difference between the holy and profane, and cause them to discern between the unclean and the clean.” Ezekiel 44:23
DID YOU know that Matthew 18:15-17 is NOT speaking about wolves? Jesus is speaking in this passage about “thy BROTHER” which is exclusive to the true body of Christ and the members thereof. Please read this passage afresh and let’s cease misusing it. Many times when Jesus’ people obey Him by exposing, marking false teachers, some will erroneously try to apply Matthew 18:15-17 which is speaking only to the body of Christ and no heretic is a member of Christ’s body. Heretics who teach a lie publicly are to be marked publicly as they are leading others astray by speaking contrary to God’s Word, (especially on an essential doctrine). Romans 16:17-18 etc.
Live Action!
Recently, a dear sister in Christ sent in this warning in order to protect Christ’s body:
“I came across your website and would like you to add Robin Bullock. He and his wife used to be country western music “stars”. Now she is a “pastor” and he is a “prophet”. I listened to him for a time. It always bothered me that they obviously did not honor Titus 1 or I Timothy 3. Now I wish to help warn others. Their is a Rumble video where he talks about cities on the Earth before man and that Satan had lived on the moon. He is one of the prophets that endorse Trump.
Also, false prophetess Kat Kerr talks about “Christmas Town” in Heaven.”
QUESTION:
“Who do you think is a sound teacher?”
REPLY:
Good question ….. Genesis to Revelation – Moses, Jesus, Paul, Peter, John and all the “holy men of God” by whom God gave us His Word (2 Peter 1:19-21). Those are the only men we should endorse!
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“You are too harsh! You seem to come across with a sledge hammer.”
REPLY:
Gospel, truth sledgehammers are God’s way: “Is not my word like as a fire? saith the LORD; and like a HAMMER that breaketh the rock in pieces?” (Jeremiah 23:29)
Perhaps you could learn some things…. right? “Open rebuke is better than secret love. 6 Faithful are the wounds of a friend; but the kisses of an enemy are deceitful.” (Prov 27:5-6) Are you rebuking when needed or are you the enemy who kisses, compromises with that which God calls sin/evil?
Soft men, soft preachers, soft preaching gets nothing done – it makes comfortable, it coddles men in their sins. No, they only perpetuate people in their sins, leading them to damnation (Isaiah 58:1; Jeremiah 23:22).
Was the message of the original Gospel always soft? Did Jesus and His holy apostles pander to the sinful sentiments and whims of sinful men? No! Read God’s Word for yourself as He commanded you to do – and cease now to be misled by the soft-peddling pansies of today’s apostate modern church world! Repent now. Follow Jesus! Then you won’t live by your sinful emotions but will rather be an authentic disciple of Jesus who loves His truth – NO MATTER WHO IT OFFENDS. But first it must offend YOU unto repentance – to drive you to real repentance and a real, a crucified walk with Jesus (Galatians 2:20). “Let God be true and EVERY man a liar.” (Romans 3:4) “You preach this Gospel JUST LIKE it’s written young man, you understand me!” “You preach this Gospel JUST LIKE it’s written young man, you understand me!”
Recently, some guy took me to task on a political post where I was preaching the Word. When asked he claimed to be born again. Then he ranted against me for preaching the Word on that forum and told me that the Bible didn’t belong there on that medium. Here was my reply:
Sir, the LORD is calling you to repent and be saved. Jesus says you are “NOT of God” because you refuse to hear His Word (John 8:47). Regrettably, you wouldn’t know the Son of God if He stood in your face. You are full of sin and self and have no hope outside of the nail scarred risen Savior and LORD. Repentance is essential and if you do get right with Him, you will never deny Christ, no matter where you are.
Recently, while seeking to shut down, hinder exposing Satan and his evil human agents, one said: “Love is the only thing that really matters. 1 Cor 13:1” My Response: “But you left out verse 6 which describes true love in contrast with false love – “Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth;” …. God’s love, when resident in a man, will expose error, heresies, doctrines of devils. If not, he has no love at all from God.
“Open rebuke is better than secret love. 6 Faithful are the wounds of a friend; but the kisses of an enemy are deceitful.” Proverbs 27:5-6
UNDER the command of the KING of kings we are on a mission to preach Christ’s original Gospel and to tell on the devil and his human agents! (Jude 3; Ephesians 5:11; Matthew 10:26; Romans 16:17-18) Let the light of divine truth expose all darkness – beginning in our own hearts!
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“I’ve been reading Philippians this morning. He says as long as Christ is being proclaimed whether in false motives or true he is rejoicing.”
REPLY:
Yes yet he also calls out “enemies of the cross of Christ” whose god is their belly – their un-crucified, self-serving carnal appetites (Philippians 3:18-19).
“What then? notwithstanding, every way, whether in pretence, or in truth, Christ is preached; and I therein do rejoice, yea, and will rejoice.” Philippians 1:18
This is in no way a justification for false leaders. ANY person can preach Christ but that doesn’t make them true. He’s dealing with motives here. We can have perfect – BIBLE – doctrine and be spiritually amiss in our own hearts.
Notice that in Philippians 1:18 they preached Christ. That would mean they preached true doctrine. It was in the wrong motive yet they preached Christ.
Without exception, every false leader will have “damnation.” (2 Peter 2:1-3) In Matthew 23 alone 3 times Jesus tells the false teacher of His day that they are going to hell.
QUESTION ASKED:
“What do you think about ‘lordship salvation”‘”
REPLY:
It depends on how you use the term “lordship salvation.” Most of the people coming against what they call “lordship salvation” are the diabolical, lawless, Christ-denying, cross-less counterfeits who espouse Satan’s system of calvinism.
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“So you don’t believe we are eternally secure?” Baptist pastor
REPLY:
Undeniably, un-conditional eternal security is the first lie Satan told to mankind which caused his fall – and he’s still telling the same lie (Gen 2:17; 3:4). Jesus taught “If a man abide (remain) not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.” (John 15:6). See also Ezek 33:12-13 and Matt 10:22; 24:13; 2 Pet 2:20-21; Heb 10:26-39, etc.). Lie of the Ages (book)
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“The church has dirty garments and is not ready to meet Jesus.”
REPLY:
At times we see people who erroneously think that Christ’s church are those in those Sunday morning buildings they call “church.” Nahhhh …. Actually, their perspective is off …. the real church, God’s people, are always ready, though they be few…. Christ’s church is not the visible apostate church world but rather individual believers who have come our from among those organizations which are long ago departed from the faith…. 1 Timothy 4:1-3
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“But no man, no leader or his doctrine is perfect.”
REPLY:
God’s Word is perfect. What a man teaches must be the perfect WORD of God or he is a false teacher, without exception. God gave us HIS written Word so there’s no excuse. “Preach the word.” (2 Timothy 4:2-4) Pretty simple. Speaking of sin and doctrine, Jesus and Paul both said that just “A little leaven leaveneth (ruins) the whole lump” (Gal 5:9). “Teach NO other doctrine.” 1 Tim 1:3……”If any man speak, let him speak as the oracles of God.” (1 Peter 4:11) “If they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.” (Isaiah 8:20) Satan’s most effective wolves in sheep’s clothing are those who speak 99% truth but that 1% of poison is all it takes to kill. You are making excuse but God’s Word never does for teaching anything except the original Gospel. In fact, anyone who preaches anything else is “accursed.” Read Gal 1:6-9. Sound Doctrine
Rose Marie Lenon Tolentino writes: “I was deceived when I was a Catholic and deceived in the ‘Christian’ faith by groups calling themselves ‘Christians,’ but in many instances their faith wasn’t biblical—according to Holy Scripture. I thank God that His Word says: ‘And ye shall seek me, and find me, when ye shall search for me with all your heart’ (Jeremiah 29:13).”
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“You mean that most pastors are going to hell? Have you not gone too far with that?”
REPLY:
Hi Sean. You seem very sincere friend…… Question: Does the Bible ever use the words “many true prophets”? No. Does the Word of God use the words “MANY false prophets (leaders)”? Yes. What do we read in 2 Tim 3:13? KJB
Message Received:
(defending Sunday morning and modern church membership) “Do not forsake the assembling of yourselves.” Crystal
Reply:
Hi Crystal …. yes we’ve addressed that passage many times (Heb. 10:24-25)…. that says nothing of going to a church building on Sundays at a certain time and this being what’s important to Christ. In fact the earliest believers met house to house daily amen … Acts 2:42-27 … they simply could not get enough of Jesus who ordered us to serve Him “daily” and not weekly … many pastors use Heb. 10:24-25 in the wrong way …. yes sun is a great day to fellowship and I do it myself and yet, we must not limit this fellowship to sun mornings … in fact, check out the “daily” aspect of Hebrews 3:13 – “But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin.” We need Jesus “daily” and not weekly. The word weekly never appears in Scripture but “daily” appears in the New Testament Scriptures 22 times. Some pastors are building a business and they want people to associate their so called church building and church business with serving God which is wrong.
Interaction with a Pastor:
Here is my response in a recent interaction with a pastor who was confronted about recommending the “5 Love Languages” psychobabble book instead of Holy Scripture. Unbelievably, this pastor replied with the typical “well they are still on the milk as babes so can’t handle the Bible. Not everyone walk where I walk.”
My Response to Him:
Men of God are called to endear men to God’s Word, period and nothing else (1 Timothy 4:6). All human reasoning must be crucified. Isaiah 8:16 – “seal the law (Word) among my disciples.” “Preach the word” 2 Timothy 4:2. The reason why people aren’t walking in the full truth as authentic disciples of Christ is for this exact reason…. Where leaders take things into their own hands instead of simply feeding people GOD’s Word……and getting them into God’s Word for themselves. We have the words “sincere milk of the word” which is what baby believers are to be fed with and endeared to (1 Peter 2:2). Sharing peripheral sources only retards that process.
“Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.” 2 Timothy 2:15
Any pastor who is not preaching the pure Word, thereby getting their audience into God’s Word for themselves, is a false pastor.
We need a revelation of the power of the Word of God and it’s infinite divine power.
When the LORD gives us this revelation through seeking Him, we will preach nothing except His Word. Colossians 3:16; 1 Timothy 4:6, 16
By divine design, the longest chapter in the Bible, right in the center of the 66, is on one topic – the written Word of God.
I want to encourage you to read this ultra important Bible chapter, praying before you begin, asking the LORD to reveal His truth to your innermost man along with His holy fear.
Todd
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“This is just another sign that He is coming soon, but first the apostasy has to come. We need to pray for all of these who are spouting false doctrine. I would not want to be in your shoes on judgement day. be blessed.”
REPLY:
Please give us all just 1 specific example where the Word of God instructs believers to pray for wolves? The burden of proof is on you…. and you won’t find 1 place in the Bible where we are told to pray for Christ’s enemies…. but you WILL find numerous places where the LORD instructs us to rebuke and expose and mark them …. YOU are on dangerous ground because you are bidding Godspeed to the enemies of Christ and if you don’t repent you will receive the same damnation as they do – 2 John 7-11; 2 Peter 2:1-3. Regrettably, you are speaking while having no biblical clue as to what you are saying and need to cease speaking out of emotions instead of biblical truth.
MESSAGE RECEIVED FROM AN ECUMENICAL CATHOLIC DEFENDER:
“Jesus preached Love not hate and division. I suggest you unfriend me then because I don’t think Jesus would say or do what you’re putting forth. There is enough hate and violence in this world and I don’t want to participate at any level. Christ Jesus is my Lord and Savior, the Only begotten and most beloved Son of the One True Living God. My relationship is with Christ and He doesn’t espouse hate but love. I’ll pray for Todd, that the Lord Christ Jesus will provide you heavenly understanding.” Douglas
REPLY:
The divine “heavenly understanding” is the written Word of God which He’s already given and which we are all personally accountable to keep and will be judged by (Psalms 119:105, 130; John 12:48; Romans 2:16; 2 Peter 1:3-4, 16-21, etc.).
To make such statements proves you have espoused a false love: Jesus says: “Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.” Matthew 10:34
Jesus DID preach division? – “Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword (division).” Matthew 10:34
To speak the LORD’s truth is loving and to refuse to is deceitful hatred:
“He that speaketh truth sheweth forth righteousness: but a false witness deceit.” Proverbs 12:17
Jesus preached a divine ultimatum – which divides mankind into just 2 kingdoms: “He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.” Mark 16:16
Jesus said: “He that is not with me ISSSS against me.” Matthew 12:30
Jesus says: “He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.” John 3:18
False love exposed by the Bible: “Open rebuke is better than secret love. 6 Faithful are the wounds of a friend; but the kisses of an enemy are deceitful.” Proverbs 27:5-6
Unity at the expense of truth is an antichrist/ecumenical lie from hell. God’s true people are unified by their knowledge of Him, being born again and based on HIS WORD, period. The written Word of God is the final authority for doctrine ad life for all who truly know the LORD (Mathew 7:21-29; 2 Timothy 2:15; 3:15-17; 2 Peter 1:3-4, 19-21, etc.).
God is not the author of unity at the expense of His truth. For example: The Catholic church is a works-based antichrist pagan cult and is plainly not part of Christ’s body (Ephesians 2:8-9). Of His beloved remnant body, concerning them being one with Him and the Father and the true body of Christ, Jesus prayed to the Father “Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth” (John 17:17). The only and non-negotiable foundation upon which the true body of Christ lives, is the written Word of God (Psalms 119; Romans 3:4; 2 Timothy 3:15-17, etc.). Christ’s true body is set apart unto Him on the basis of their love and obedience to His truth (John 8:31-32, 47).
So, big shot, you going to tell the Almighty HE can’t judge people and tell us beforehand in His written Word why He will do such? Delusional. 18 times in Psalm 119 alone the LORD calls His written Word His “JUDGMENTS.” His “judgments” – words – warn us to be forgiven so we won’t be judged.
WHO is “OF GOD” and who is “NOT of God”? – Jesus says: “He that is of God heareth God’s words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.” John 8:47
Those who don’t come into and remain in the sound doctrine of God’s Word, are hell bound, sure as you read these words:
“For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
2Jn 1:8 Look to yourselves, that we lose not those things which we have wrought, but that we receive a full reward.
2Jn 1:9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.
2Jn 1:10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:” 2 John 7-11
Jesus says “JUDGE righteous judgment.” (John 7:24)
Douglas, speaking CHRIST’s truth is not unloving. What you are doing is unloving – because you are still full of self and therefore operating according to your self-serving emotions and not love at all. “God is love” not you and HE alone defines what love is. Read 1 John 4:7-8. You do not hear God’s Word when it’s presented to you but instead put your own tradition and futile thinking/doctrines in place of His Word – just like the hell bound religionists of Jesus’ day (Mark 7:6-10). You do this because you do not know Him. John 8:47 At this point you are an antichrist, a counterfeit and don’t yet see it Douglas. God is calling you to truly repent and when you do, He will save you and HIS Word will be the final authority of your life.
You are acting as if God didn’t leave us HIS WORD which is a denial of Christ. He has already given us His judgments. It will be too late when He comes to judge us for how we lived. Jesus, the JUDGE, says – “He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.” (John 12:48)
Doug, God is calling you to repent. He will not hear any other prayer. The LORD will remove the logs from your own eye once you truly repent and place your whole faith in Christ alone – who gave you His Word – His judgments.
EMAIL RECEIVED:
“Subject: Thank you!!! Message Body: I just wanted to thank you for all your post. I came across Jesse Morrel and Kerrigan Skelly (2 sinless perfectionism false teachers) and just felt so awful because I knew I was not completely sinlessly perfect. I am glad to have come across your articles. They have restored me back to hope. Thank you!” Natalianne
REPLY:
Hi Natalianne. Thank you for emailing sister. So
glad the LORD is moving in your life. Memorizing 2 Cor 3:17 and Gal 5:1 and 3:3 has helped my life immensely! God is so good. If you wish to be on the ministry email, just let me know sister. In Christ, Todd | Sinless Perfectionism Exposed
EMAIL MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“I get concerned when I read some of your articles concerning other ministries. Unfortunately you are not the only one. What is interesting when I read some of the information from the quote false prophet list of people you have on your list. I have yet to see your name on their list, because they don’t have one. Their main calling is to minister and love on the body of Christ and those who don’t know Him. Fortunately I have not found in the scriptures the ministry of correction. All I see is the love of Jesus being spread abroad. One thing is Jesus came to minister to the broken hearted, that means humble and ready to receive and not pull down. Jesus did not like the religious, He had little to say except you sons of vipers. I’m speaking from experience, if you continue on this track you will Fall. It took me years to recover from what I see you doing here. It took a lot of asking forgiveness and ALOT OF REPENTANCE, I am being renewed day by day in seeing people through the eyes of Jesus. I’m sure you get these comments all the time BUT PLEASE go before the Lord and ask forgiveness and forgive your earthly dad for what he did when you were 7 years old and seek out inner healing because there is a root to what is in your heart for what you’re doing here. Be blessed.” Bob
REPLY:
Hi Bob.
Thanks for expressing your thoughts.
You say you are “concerned”? Seems like it’s high time you got concerned about your own depraved, blinded state.
Will you call Christ’s apostle Paul a liar and a deceiver for issuing warnings such as: “But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived”? 2 Timothy 3:13 Did Paul lie OR is there a real threat?
It seems clear that you haven’t read the Scriptures well if you haven’t found the myriad of verses on correction which is clear proof that the wolves have had their satanic effect on your mind (1 Peter 5:8). Those beguilers you’ve chosen over Christ don’t obey God by exposing other wolves and thereby prove themselves as wolves – who don’t want to be discovered.
True born again saints are commanded to “MARK THEM.” (Romans 16:17-18) Do you know what “Mark them” means? SKOPEO is the Greek word for “mark” and means to put them in the cross hairs – aim in and expose them.
“And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove (expose, bring the darkness to the light) them.” Ephesians 5:11
God is calling you to get into His Word: “My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge.” Hosea 4:6
Perhaps, due to your own refusal to love and study and know God’s Word for yourself, you’ve been turned over by God Himself to “strong delusion” so that you believe these lies (2 Thessalonians 2:9-12). This is “after the working of SATAN.”
“Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.” 2 Thessalonians 2:9-12
I bet the wolves you’ve allowed to deceive you will never deal with texts/Bible passages like the one above, right? We know the answer.
“Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try (TEST) the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.” 1 John 4:1
How can you possibly believe these false leaders “love” everybody when they refuse to communicate the whole counsel of Scripture which is directly from the only One who “is love”? (1 John 4:8, 16). No, the devil’s agents who you’ve allowed to mislead you intentionally dodge out mountains of Scripture – and siphon out selected verses to deceive the gullible – “Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them. 18 For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly (selfish carnal appetites); and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple (un-repentant and unlearned and therefore gullible).” Romans 16:17-18
Preaching the Word and rebuking/correcting are a divine command:
“Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, REBUKE (correct), exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine. 3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; 4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.” 2 Timothy 4:2-4
Of whiners who refuse to truly repent and abandon their life to Christ, Ray Zeitler writes: “Upon hearing the hard truths of God’s Word, some say: ‘But I don’t like that Scripture… cause the Lord told me something different.’ Delusional! How is that any different than the made up fairy tale story from Joseph Smith? Or any different than the golden calf… we saw how well that worked out for the Jews.”
God gave us His Word so we could be CORRECTED:
“All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for CORRECTION, for instruction in righteousness: 17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.” 2 Timothy 3:16-17
Bob, you said: “Jesus did not like the religious, He had little to say except you sons of vipers.” Reply: 1. Jesus didn’t like the religious yes but HOW do YOU know that if HE DIDN’T say so??? Your problem is that you don’t realize just how many times He warned of wolves. Do you begin to see how blind you are friend? Read Matthew 23 and get delivered of your little pansy false “Jesus” notions. The Son of God and His men are not wall flowers. Time to repent and God will grant a spine. Do you not realize that in Matthew 23 alone, just 1 chapter, Jesus told the false religious leaders they were going to hell THREE TIMES? Read Matthew 11:12 and stand up like a man – the kingdom of God is full of conflict.
“And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force.” Matthew 11:12
This is a war. No time for being a cowardly pansy. “Endure hardness as a good soldier of Jesus Christ.” (2 Timothy 2:2-4).
“FIGHT” is a biblical mandate:
“FIGHT the good fight of faith, lay hold on eternal life, whereunto thou art also called, and hast professed a good profession before many witnesses.” 1 Timothy 6:12
“We must through MUCH tribulation enter into the kingdom of God.” Acts 14:22
You state: ” I’m speaking from experience, if you continue on this track you will Fall.”
Yes it’s more than obvious that you speak “from experience” and not from God’s Word. Been at this biblical work of exposing false prophets for 3 1/2 decades now. The fact is Bob, you’ve already fallen and simply don’t yet realize it. You are part of the prophesied self-loving, Savior-denying generation of those who ” profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.” (Titus 1:16) The Holy Ghost foretold that the final generation will have a mere “form of godliness but deny the power (divine authority) thereof.’ (2 Timothy 3:5) Denying the power of Christ to reign in one’s personal life is what the Holy Spirit is getting at here. Read this passage to see the details of this generation of self-loving, reputation-preserving moral cowards who openly deny Christ the right to reign in their personal lives – 2 Timothy 3:1-7, 13.
“There is a generation that are pure in their own eyes, and yet is not washed from their filthiness.” Proverbs 30:12
You stated: “I’m speaking from experience” – and that’s the problem. You aren’t speaking as of the oracles of God. You have not repented and do not study and know the Word of God for yourself and this is why you are still in darkness (1 Peter 4:10-11). You don’t speak for Christ.
“STUDY to shew THYSELF approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.” 2 Timothy 2:15
To “earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints” is a divine mandate. And this because “there are certain men (ungodly wolves) crept in unawares (undetected by the blind).”
“Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints. 4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.” Jude 3-4
Apparently, you were so busy judging me for supposedly wrongly judging that you missed the myriad of resources to help you learn God’s Word on the ministry website, such as Bible School modules, Study Guides, Biblical Literacy tests, and well over a thousand other Scripture-rich posts.
IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM with wolves being called out by name, YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH GOD! REPENT NOW BEFORE IT’S TOO LATE! You are still full of self and in darkness (John 3:19-21). You may wish to beware of your collusion and bidding Godspeed to the very enemies of Christ and His cross – which is exactly what you are doing (2 John 7-11). Wolf Defenders
JESUS says there are “MANY false prophets” and you call the Son of God a liar by shunning and ignoring His many warnings of the “ravenous wolves.” (Matthew 7:15; 24:11, 24; 23:1-25, etc.). Oh and Christ inspired His apostles to speak voluminously of this same threat to the sheep of His pasture for which He died. The reason you don’t see this yet Bob is that apparently you are full of yourself – and that’s why we need the cross – something those “enemies of the cross of Christ” you’ve espoused will not mention, much less teach on (Galatians 2:20; 6:14; Colossians 3:3).
You state: “It took me years to recover from what I see you doing here.” Reply: No, apparently, you were being critical and condemning out of your own depraved heart way back then – instead of denying yourself, taking up your cross, and following Jesus – and consequently being full of God’s love to protect the very saints He died to save!
Are you deeply in and studying God’s Word daily? We both know that answer. If not, you’re already backslidden, lukewarm, and ready to be spewed – rejected (Revelation 3:15-16).
THE LORD’S WATCHMEN are obediently on their posts and doing exactly what they are supposed to be doing – warning. “So thou, O son of man, I have set thee a watchman unto the house of Israel; therefore thou shalt hear the word at my mouth, and WARN them from me.” Ezekiel 33:7
Jesus and all of His prophets and holy apostles warned. They were true to the Great Shepherd of His sheep who broods jealously over and protects the sheep of His pasture (Hebrews 13:20).
Bob, when is the last time YOU personally led someone to Jesus?
You claim the wolves whose lies you’ve bought are “seeing people through the eyes of Jesus.” By lying to them?
“But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. 2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. 3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their DAMNATION slumbereth not.” 2 Peter 2:1-3
Bob, it seems obvious that you don’t know and adhere to the very words of Jesus and therefore according to Jesus, are “not of God.” See John 8:47. Instead you follow mere sinful men. This plainly reveals that you are following “another Jesus” and don’t know the Jesus revealed to us in Holy Scripture. See Galatians 1:6-9 and 2 Corinthians 11:2-5.
What my dad did when I was 7? There you go attributing obedience to the LORD to something you made up in your own darkened heart. This is what the Bible calls divination – or conjuring up things. This is further evidence that you “prophesy lies … of the deceit of their own heart;” “How long shall this be in the heart of the prophets that prophesy lies? yea, they are prophets of the deceit of their own heart;” Jeremiah 23:26
“Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded. 9 Be afflicted, and mourn, and weep: let your laughter be turned to mourning, and your joy to heaviness.” James 4:8-9
The LORD is calling you to repentance Bob – to get all the logs out of your own eyes and to cease hypocritically judging others who are actually doing exactly what the Bible tells us true servants of the LORD do.
“Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye.”
Matthew 7:1-5
We ALL need God’s mercy and yet can only receive such when we do things His way and no other way. Hosea 14:1-2
Naming Names: Is it Biblical? Yes or no?
todd
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“No Todd it is not idolatry to study the words of men. We all do it to become educated. It was men (and women) who taught you to speak, read, write, do arithmetic, etc. The men I listed looked at scripture says about predestination and the will of man. They systematically countered the arguments of the men of their days who were making similar arguments to the one you are trying to make. But instead of educating yourself of what the Arguments of Erasmus were and how Luther destroyed them with scripture, or where Calvin elaborated on the arguments of Luther, or how Edwards destroyed the arguments being put forth in his days, you proudly put on display your total lack of understanding of the subject matter. You don’t even understand the positions of these men, whose theology you seek to critique because NONE of them taught that we are like robots, lacking responsibility for our actions. By mischaracterizing a theological position that you clearly don’t understand and have never studied you have created a straw man to argue against.” Bill
REPLY:
Bill, you are an idolater who is either a seminarian or in the least you’ve allowed yourself to be indoctrinated (made a twofold more child of hell) by seminarians wolves. Show just 1 Scripture that even hints that New Testament believers are to be educated in the knowledge of the sinful philosophers and heretical theologians of their day? Waiting ….? “Educated”? Satan educates. You have lived the straw man argument by wasting your time studying mere men and now you defend such vile, diabolical, murderous heretics such as John Calvin. What spirit are you of? The born again disciples of Jesus must know HIS Word and have HIS revelation. Who needs to even know those arguments? Paul warned against such. Knowing the dispersing the truth is what God calls His people to. You are bogged down in the mud of all this nonsense. You’ve wasted God’s time studying the words and beliefs of mere sinful men instead of simply studying God’s Word in the King James Bible. Satan has defeated you in this. You are exactly like Jesus describes the false leaders/pharisees of His day …. He cited them for setting the Word of God aside for their own traditions of mere men (Mark 7:6-9). You have allowed the writings and words of mere sinful men to trump God’s Word. Jesus says that those who are “of God” hear and elevate God’s Word as final authority. You can’t have it both ways and God hates mixture. “Let God be true and EVERY man a liar.” (Romans 3:4) When the LORD says “My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge”, was He speaking of lacking the knowledge and beliefs of the men of that day OR was He speaking of not knowing HIS Word? He answers this question in the very verse: “My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.” (Hosea 4:6)
Total convoluted antichrist mixture coming out of pure rebellion…. claiming to love Christ and yet wasting the time HE gave you on this diabolical mess ….. Satan is laughing. If you knew and believed God’s Word, you’d see this …. He’s calling you to true repentance. When you truly repent, the LORD will instill in you His holy fear and you will study HIS words and not the words and philosophies of mere sinful men. He gave us His Word for this very reason (Deuteronomy 4:10). The LORD Jesus taught that those who are “of God” give heed to and elevate “God’s word,” not man’s (John 8:47).
Historical Fact: Calvin’s doctrines are founded in the antichrist heresies of metaphysics and catholicism …. The pagan philosopher, Aristotle, born in 384 BC, wrote a book he called, Metaphysics. His reasoning concluded that “God can’t feel and can’t change.” This God must be unaffected by anything and unalterable. He is unchanging, for change too would be a weakness and change thus renders Him less than the ultimate God. Aristotle’s God cannot love, cannot suffer and cannot be influenced. Saint Augustine incorporated this philosophy from Plato, Plotinus and Aristotle into his writings which were transferred to John Calvin. Thus Calvin’s doctrine of predestination was born. Calvinism’s Satanic Roots | Seminarian Sacrilege
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“Be careful who you disrespect, disregard or dishonor in the natural realm. You don’t know their RANK in the SPIRIT.”
REPLY:
With all honor, namely to the LORD and His beloved body …. “rank in the Spirit” is nowhere in the Bible. Such a term panders to and fosters pride and is heard in the false prophetic and word of faith movements. In those churches you will find those who tout themselves and not Christ. Their identity is sinful self which they cloak with a facade of spirituality. But Jesus says simply “But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren.
9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.
10 Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ.
11 But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant.
12 And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted.” Matthew 23:8-12
See also Philippians 2:3-5 and Colossians 3:3 and Galatians 2:20.
ASSAILED:
In defense of a “pastor” who truly manifested his blindness and false doctrine, one here came at me with how “fine and loving” the rebuked wolf is and how he’d visited his church, etc.
REPLY:
There are many “fine, loving” devils posing as Christ’s representatives who are wolves in sheep’s clothing as Jesus warned repeatedly (Matthew 7:15; 24, 11, 24). Catholic priests and mormon priests are “fine, loving” men who are not of God and leading many to eternal damnation! Prov 14:12 … Sounds like you need to repent and get into God’s Word, crying out to Him to bless you to be possessed with the holy fear of the LORD.
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“Be careful who you disrespect, disregard or dishonor in the natural realm. You don’t know their RANK in the SPIRIT.”
REPLY:
With all honor, namely to the LORD and His beloved body …. “rank in the Spirit” is nowhere in the Bible. Such a term panders to and fosters pride and is heard in the false prophetic and word of faith movements. In those churches you will find those who tout themselves and not Christ. Their identity is sinful self which they cloak with a veneer of spirituality. But Jesus says simply “But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren. 9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven. 10 Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ. 11 But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant. 12 And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted.” Matthew 23:8-12
See also Philippians 2:3-5 and Colossians 3:3 and Galatians 2:20.
Question Received:
“Is it wrong Todd to drive a nice car and live in a nice house. Is that wrong when the Lord has actually blessed you with these things though they do not move you or hold your trust.”
Reply:
Is it wrong to keep money from those in need and God’s work while you lavish yourself in this fleeting sinful world? That’s the Gospel question, right. Isn’t this exactly what the once “rich men” did before dying and being sent irrevocably to hell? (Luke 16:19-31) You mention nothing of being “rich toward God” instead of self (Luke 12:15-21). You mention nothing of using this world’s riches to reach others (Deuteronomy 8:18). Your question could have just as easily been a statement such as: “Praise God for the ability to earn and help others and further the message of the Gospel of Jesus!” This reveals that your affections are on the things of this world and not on Christ! (Colossians 3:1-4). God is calling you to repentance and to truly lay down your life. When you do, you will be enthralled in the Great commission Jesus gave and not making excuses for getting stuff for self in this world. “Minding earthly things” is a characteristic of those who are “enemies of the cross of Christ” “whose god is their belly” (carnal appetites). Read Philippians 3:18-19.
Question Received:
“Todd: My church is heavily involved in the book, “Not a Fan”, by Kyle Idelman (sp) to the point they study it in the worship service on Sun. morning and Bible studies on Sun. night and Wed. night. Everyone is simply “gaga” over it and the author. This has been going on for the past 6-8 weeks and they don’t plan to end it anytime soon. I plan to stay away & attend another church until it’s over. I feel like they are putting this book over the Bible, and its author before God, and it makes me feel resentful because of it. Please tell me if you think I am wrong and should just put my feelings aside and let it go. Thank you.” Donna
Reply:
No, you are being alerted by the Holy Spirit sounds like sister. There’s something fundamentally wrong about using that time together as a body going through a mere man’s book. Yes typical apostate modern church scenario here sister. Isn’t it interesting that these counterfeits never go through one of the 66 glorious books of the canon of Holy Scripture and yet they are going through a mere man’s book? Can nearly guarantee it’s not Scripture rich ….. remember Lk 6:26 …. whenever people get gaga over men, it’s usually because they are false.
Question Received:
“So, I’ve been reading your site. I have some questions. What is your on gay rights? Abortion? and most especially, how do you feel about Catholics and Catholic priests?” Therese
Reply:
“Hi Therese.
Well as a born again Bible believer ….. all 3 of these items are addressed on the ministry site.
- Sodomy / homosexuality is sin
- Abortion is murder and sin
- The catholic church is antichrist – a works based, Christ-denying cult
Also, there is a CATEGORY drop-down menu and a SEARCH box on this site.
Message Received:
“In the Bible, there are several verses to identify false pastors, why you do not quote in your opinion about the writings of Charles G. Finney? Why you do not expose false pastor like Benny Hinn, Joel Osteen, Joyce Meyer and others?”
Reply:
Hello. Thanks for your email. There is a SEARCH box and also a CATEGORY drop down menu on this site. Check these out concerning your email:
todd
Message Received:
“Does true Christianity exist?…’When the Son of Man comes, shall He find faith on earth’?…What did Jesus mean by that statement? Especially in today’s modern world where everyone is ‘knowledgeable’ of biblical ‘truth,’ and there are so many claiming to be ‘born again.’ Perhaps our faith is bogus and we worship a pseudo God, one that we project that suits our way of thinking and being. Maybe, we should all analyze and examine ourselves. Because if Jesus knew beyond the shadow of a doubt that there would be one single person truly waiting for Him in true Godly faith, He would not have made that statement!” Josh
Reply:
Hi Josh. Obviously Jesus WILL have a remnant of true saints to come back for, otherwise He would never have promised such so many times (1 Thess. 4:16-18; James 5:7-9; Christ called His people a “little flock” and so we know He has a flock (Luke 12:32) …. who are His sheep, hear His voice, and follow Him (John 10:1-10). There will be those on His RIGHT hand, received when He returns with a glorious “Well done my good and faithful servant!” (Matthew 25). There are those in Revelation 6 who are the souls of the redeemed who are under the altar in Heaven. The full counsel of Scripture refutes this idea that Jesus will return for no one. He told us that His Bride is making itself ready to meet Him and so this again tells us that He has people (Revelation 19:7-8, etc.).
Message Received:
“How do you know if a person is Catholic that they are not born again. I think God can only make the decision who goes to hell.”
Reply:
Hi. There’s no such thing as an idolater who is saved. Read Rev. 21:8. Can a mormon, JW, or muslim be born again? No. No born again believer would be partaking with doctrines of devils. “Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: ye cannot be partakers of the Lord’s table, and of the table of devils.” 1 Cor. 10:21 ….. as an ex-catholic, I know exactly what false gospel they preach. It’s nowhere near the original Gospel of the grace of God in Christ. It’s a false, works-based cult.
Message Received (Wolf Defender Rebuked!):
“Don’t judge Pastors that you don’t know, GOD called him (John Piper) 45 years ago. Take a look at your own life. If you can’t say anything good, say nothing at all.” Francois Du Plessis
Reply:
Deception. The Bible never says If you can’t say anything good, say nothing at all.” In fact, one does good to say the bad truth about people who are leading others to hell. We don’t know them? Nonsense. We all know them by the fruit of their doctrine (Matt. 7:13-20). Piper is a calvinist which means he’s a false teacher at best. ….. The Bible mandates that God’s people, especially men, be not spineless but rather mark and expose false teachers in order to protect Christ’s flock. The true body is busy teaching discernment (Ezek. 44:23) and earnestly contending for the faith once delivered to the saints (Jude 3-4). It’s time to judge your own heart, to repent, and get right with God before it’s too late. Any person who comes to the aid of a known wolf is bidding Godspeed to that enemy of Christ and will judged with that person (2 John 10-11). John Piper: Satanic High Priest of
Indoctrination and Initiation into the Cult of Calvin
Message Received:
“But some leaders may be teaching falsely, even slightly but we shouldn’t judge their motives.”
Reply:
“My brethren, be not many masters, knowing that we shall receive the greater condemnation.” James 3:1
Yes if someone is teaching “another gospel” they are “accursed” as false teachers period …. it doesn’t at all matter about their motives….. Their doctrine is not from Scripture, which if nothing else, all they’d have to do is simply read pure Scripture – straight from God’s written Word, period. Yet, they are choosing to buy into false systems of theology, movements, camps, and other notions and philosophies that did not come from the words of Holy Scripture (2 Timothy 2:15; 3:16-17, etc.). We all have a Bible and so have no excuse and as teachers are more accountable …. because if we teach anything but according to the Word, we are misleading others, are accursed, and there is no light in us (Gal. 1:6-9; Is. 8:20, etc.).
Message Received:
“Sad, Some people make a career out of bashing the ministers of the Gospel. Wish they would concentrate more on preaching the Goodness of the Gospel than accusing the ones who are doing. Pharisee spirit at work. The great Accuser.”
Reply:
So, you are saying that obeying God’s mandate to expose wolves who pose as leaders of His sheep is the work of a pharisee? chapters and verses please … Joshua, you need to get a life in the Word of God and own the personal, God given responsibility to watch over His flock. It’s time to repent and grow up into Christ and cease these little lame smokescreens … which usually come out of self-serving motives, you know, those unrepentant evil motives of greed etc that cause people to migrate to these wolves who feed those lusts? …. “false prophets and false teachers ….They allure through the lusts of the flesh …” Read 2 Peter 2 and Acts 20:29-32 and ask God to forgive you for having to concern for the flock Jesus bled to save and for seeking to cover and protect the very enemies of Christ (2 John 7-11).
What does Jude 3-4 tell true believers?
How about Rom. 16:17-18?
Was Paul the apostle a pharisee? See Acts 13:10
So, all “ministers” are God’s just because they wear sheep’s clothing (pose as such)? – 2 Corinthians 11:12-15 says: “But what I do, that I will do, that I may cut off occasion from them which desire occasion; that wherein they glory, they may be found even as we.
13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. 14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. 15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works. Are true Christians to Defend or Expose False Teachings and False Leaders?
Message Received:
“(Concerning mega churches) Let people learn, they like to go to big churches, and conferences, until they can see deeper in Christ, and have a deeper walk with the Lord then they won’t need big events to please them cause they will have Christ in a deeper level in their life that will please them all the time, with or without other people in their life. It takes time Todd. Many call on the name of the Lord, but to walk with the Lord in a deeper spiritual way, they need the internal walk with the Lord not the external. The external walk with the Lord will lead them to mega churches, we can only pray for them to see and know what God truly wants for them.”
Reply:
Hi. Thank you for dialoguing. If the LORD has saved them, He is still working in them to bring about an abiding, fruit-bearing fellowship with Him (John 15). When they are blessed with such they will see that they do not need those conferences or churches, hoopla, and the fanfare of it all which draws attention away from their LORD and Savior. The goal of those church businesses is to make themselves an essential component in their lives. That’s why they are constantly pointing people to their classes, groups, and programs instead of pointing them to Christ alone. They constantly drop innuendoes – to brand themselves. The spirit of antichrist is behind such a displacement of Christ as “Head” of each individual saint and His body at large. Colossians 2 nails this down hard. Anti simply means “in place of” and so this is the reason I speak freely to identify these placebo churches as antichrist – due to their incessant branding, programs, and membership drives (which is not at all biblical and displaces the blood bought membership we have in the one body of Christ). See Ephesians 4; 1 Corinthians 12).
Question Received:
“Could it be that those supporting the prosperity preachers are lost souls now who once knew Christ?”
Reply:
Hello brother. Read 2 Tim. 4:3-4 and 2 Thess. 2:10-12 and you will have God’s answer to this …. oh and also 2 Tim 3:1-7 and notice these are not rank heathen but rather those within the professing church who actually had a “form of godliness” …. when people are deceived, especially those whom Jesus once saved, they are willingly deceived … we know that because He gave us a Bible so we would know His truth/way and not be misled by beguilers who are making merchandise of the willingly deceived within the modern church world (2 Peter. 2:1-3, 17). Those who follow mere sinful men instead of following Christ by sitting at His feet daily and drinking in His Word, prove their hearts have departed from the LORD (Hebrews 3:12-15).
Message Received:
“I used to tithe to Joel Osteen until the veil was lifted from my eyes! … I grew to really like Charles Stanley, have been tithing to his church! There’s no one left in my eyes! I have been so very disappointed with churches that I have stopped going! .. So I have been reading my Bible and watching Charles Stanley on TV! .. Now I will read my Bible & look up to Jesus!” Charles Stanley Exposed
Reply:
Precious sister, this all proves and clearly demonstrates that God’s hand is upon you, His daughter. He is calling His true followers outside the apostate local churches which are nearly invariably run by false leaders. There are 2 books on this topic and many posts on the ministry website SafeGuardYourSoul.com …. I want to also encourage you to continue to obey the LORD with your giving. That’s a good thing and He will direct you as to where there is fertile ground in a New Testament ministry(ies) … which are known by their obedience in carrying out the Great Commission mandate He gave us. Praying for you sister.
Message Received from Osteen Defender:
“Let he is who is without sin……….” B. (This person was wanting true disciples who were exposing Osteen for the wolf to back off and to cease obeying the Gospel mandate to expose Christ’s enemies.)
Reply:
Hi B. Actually it’s a sin with severe consequences to refuse to mark false teachers who are leading people to eternal damnation. Those who do so receive the same eternal reward as the enemy of Christ they defend. Read 2 John 7-11; Jude 3-4, and Romans 16:17-18. It is a divine mandate to “earnestly contend for the faith once delivered to the saints” (2 Timothy 4:2-4). The LORD is calling you to true repentance and when that happens, you will get into the whole counsel of God’s Word and live an authentic New Testament life (2 Timothy 2:15). Jesus calls us to die and as we do we have the promise of living or having our BEST LIFE for eternity not now. Paul says that only the “enemies of the cross of Christ” would teach such (Philippians 3:18-21). Please view this: Beware of the Wolf Defenders
Connie Long writes:
“Those who listen to him, and the many more like him, get very ugly and downright angry when you try to show them through God’s Word, their idol is a wolf in sheep’s clothing. They don’t like you throwing truth bombs in their, “positive possibility, me, my and I, all about me gospel.” These are those who profess Christ, but do not possess Christ, they know about Christ, but do not know Christ. They do not believe that they must take up their cross and die daily, they do not believe that Christ is Lord of all or He is not Lord at all…”
Ray Zeitler notes:
“2 John was one of the biggest revelations the Lord led me to. Am I accepting of sin to the point that I willingly want to accept the sin of false teachers? To have a portion of that sin laid on my debt that Jesus paid? Even though I personally did not commit their sin, I accept a part of it like I committed it… Even the act of bidding them Godspeed, or welcoming them into our home is sinful… I would rather concentrate on my repenting from my sins, living a holy life and not have to worry about the sins of another being laid at my feet..”
Lorin Richman writes:
“Another one they always use out of context is, “touch not God’s anointed!”, not realizing that false teachers ARE NOT God’s anointed, but rather His believers are because we are in Jesus and He is in us.”
Message Received:
“The world hates Christians because they’re so irrational!” (from a professing Christian)
Reply:
Jesus told us that because we are truly His, the world would hate us…. “Ye shall be hated by all men for my name’s sake.” (Matthew 10:22) And “The world cannot hate you; but me it hateth, because I testify of it, that the works thereof are evil.” John 7:7 etc. So yes true disciples of Jesus are hated, not because they are irrational but simply because they are Christ’s! 2 Timothy 3:12
Message Received:
“Oh my you are so judgmental and damning…not what a Christian should be….if I were you I would think about what I was saying about God’s people…it’s not about what we believe or are taught to believe but what Jesus did….and we cannot add or take away from that…that is why I left the church….the only thing blasphemous to God is cursing His creation…and saying what you believe is right and acting like this…..Paul said he was a chief sinner because of his killing the first Christians but he did it in innocence because he thought he was doing good for God…..if you think this is doing good for Him….it’s not.”
Reply:
Hi Regina. I am in no way moved or angry at what you stated here. It’s interesting how you openly condemn me while claiming I am being condemning. Have you ever read Matthew 7:1-6 and Romans 2:1-3?
The Catholic religion is damning the souls of millions and you are defending this enemy of the LORD Jesus Christ while claiming to be loving. The Bible is the final authority – it’s the very Word of God – and it states that we have “ALL sinned” and are fully guilty before the very Judge of our eternal souls (Romans 3:10, 23). God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son and not some self and Satanically appointed, blasphemous, phony, pagan religion out of Rome that claims to have exclusive rights to offer the sacrifice Jesus single-handedly came to provide. This same Son of God who bled and rose again to save us, also commanded – “Ye MUST be born again” to enter His eternal family and kingdom (John 3:3, 7). “For by grace (unmerited favor) are ye saved through faith and that not of yourself; It is the gift of God; not of works lest any man should boast.” (Ephesians 2:8-9)
Message Received:
“Todd, I read this a couple of times today, and it lists just about everybody out there…even Smith Wigglesworth and Lester Sumrall…so I’m wondering who and I mean who out there is teaching sound doctrine/pure truth…I’ve caught a preacher named Mel Bond a few times, watched “Gospel Truth by Andrew Womack” which builds faith and humbles…..we are all men and all fall short and not one seeketh, not one understands everything…. I sat back in the early 80’s under a man named Hobart Freeman whose church was Faith Assembly in Northern Indiana…a solid faith teacher but boy things went bad (google his name) and left many if not all confused when it deteriorated….and Freeman never pointed to himself, always exhorted to get in the Word…so I left and wandered not becoming a worldly sinful man but always tried to remain transparent before God…so here I am today, got a Bible and am seeking God, by grace walking in Rom 12:1-3 but it’s very difficult to discern some of what’s happening out there today…thanks for listening and always encouraging… Plan on supporting your ministry but having a financial trial currently.” Tom
Reply:
Well, as you pointed out, we have God’s Word in the King James Bible and because of this we can have pure fellowship with Him without the tainting of mere men. Lester Sumrall and Andrew Womack are WOF/Word of Faith which means they are false and aligned with known false doctrine and false teachers (Ezekiel 22:25-27). Or, at best people like this are in great danger. I go with the former. Yes there is no perfect, sinless vessel and even Paul had to be checked out/tested by the Bereans (Acts 17:10-11). There’s a spirit that will come on any of us if we fellowship with wolves, no matter how innocent it may seem. I’m talking about blatant false teachers and/or those who align themselves with them such as WOF beguilers. Regrettably, the vast majority of men in ministry are branding in the minds of their audiences their ministry, not Christ and His cross. They are perpetually selling or branding their own names and ministries (Colossians 2:6-10, 18-19). I will lift you in prayer brother right now. Feel free to call sometime brother Tom. During day is best 214-425-8398.
Message Received:
“We must not judge but love and pray for others and not expose them. It is not our job to judge…it is our job to pray for them…if you see wrong in them pray for them….these things are not of God…because God says to pray for our enemies not destroy our enemies…where is your heart? Leave everything to God…yes it is true we need to be careful & be warned of false prophets but also we need to be warned of how we preach & judge others or God’s Word! Surely I say to you…I forgive you because even among wolves God is there to save me….my love for God is very far instinct from yours….& my faith in him is very far greater than yours…..cause you do not know my heart….this what God made me to be….His fruit of His love & through that fruit I shall continue to grow…..by your own means seek in your heart…in what I believe in….but my heart seeks the love of God..” Christina
Reply:
Identifying and marking “them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine” of the LORD, is to be a regular part of the Christian life. In an hour when the proliferation of false teaching is mutating at an increasingly exponential rate, those who love the LORD must examine and test everything against the final authority of the recorded oracles of God (Acts 17:11). The following warning enlightens us to understand this:
“Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.” Colossians 2:8
Christina, did you know that Jesus instructed us to “judge righteous judgment” and in this case He obviously counted the judgment of His disciples to be unrighteous instead of righteous (Jn. 7:24).
I suggest that you yourself stop judging those who are judging righteous judgment as Jesus commanded His true people to do (John 7:24).
Where’s the Scripture Christina? Where did God ever tell us to pray for wolves? Did He not mandate that we expose them so that their prey would not be deceived and go to hell? Chapters and verses please?
Acts 20:27-32 is truly key to seeing the apostolic faith and how it and those saved by that original Gospel are to be safeguarded against the enemy’s wolves. Also Philippians 1:17 and Jude 3-4. If you name the name of Jesus Christ, please study these passages prayerfully and carefully.
Is it Biblical to Mark False Teachers?
Millions are being taught by the wolves who have deceived them not to expose them. I was personally taught by the wolves who deceived me not to ever speak a word against them. They were covering their tracks by using Scripture out of context to their own self-serving advantage (Philippians 3:18-19).
What does the Bible tell us to do about false leaders who are misleading others? “Mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.” Romans 16:17
We are commanded to never endorse or help in any way those who do not preach strictly God’s Word, which is “the doctrine of Christ”:
“For MANY DECEIVERS are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist. 8 Look to yourselves (take personal responsibility to earnestly contend for the truth), that we lose not those things which we have wrought, but that we receive a full reward. 9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth (remains) not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth (continues) in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. 10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: 11 For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.” 2 John 7-11
You are defending the right of the very enemies of the One you claim to be serving to mislead precious sheep whom Jesus bled to save …. and claiming it’s love. This is delusional.
It sure IS IS IS our job to judge – The Son of God says “JUDGE righteous judgment.” John 7:24 …. Now who’s lying – Christ or Christina?
Christina, the hatred for Christ in your heart is manifesting ….. you are fighting for and defending His very enemies. How would you feel if your own family member who you thought loved you, went to war to fight for and defend someone who was your sworn enemy? That’s betrayal isn’t it? And yet you seek to dress it up as love. But the Bible declares: “Open rebuke is better than secret love.
6 Faithful are the wounds of a friend; but the kisses of an enemy are deceitful.” (Prov. 27:5-6)
How does the LORD feel that you claim to love Him while ignoring His words and fighting to defend His enemies that are destroying the people He came and died to save on that cross?
Jesus says “Out of the abundance of the HEART the mouth speaketh.” (Matt. 12:34) Your heart is manifested openly by your own words and thoughts which you have penned here. So we do know your heart.
Message Received:
“Wow! Have any of you listened to the message they preach? Joel Osteen says at the end of every sermon to find a Bible based church, he does not say buy my book. Joseph Prince does in fact preach the gospel and better than any pastor I have ever heard. Are you all that shocked that God’s blessings on these men’s lives can be so great? Yes they sell books, that’s where they get their money, not from the flocks of blind sheep you assume are sending them piles of cash every week. Actually watch a sermon or show just once… many have come to faith in Christ Jesus because of those 2 men sharing the gospel. Is this not God’s will???? To share the message, to feed the poor? Please feel free to contact them and find out exactly what ministry outreaches they are involved in. Also maybe ask Father God what his opinion is on pastors who speak biblical truths… Sounds like a spirit of envy to me. Does it bother you that God has blessed them? May God bless you and keep you on the path… do not pray for me! Do not! In fact I rebuke any prayers you have sent my way for me or my family. I am blessed enough already! Father God leads me and I will not condemn those who speak truths. James 4:11 Speak not evil one of another, brethren. He that speaketh evil of his brother, and judgeth his brother, speaketh evil of the law, and judgeth the law: but if thou judge the law, thou art not a doer of the law, but a judge. 12 There is one lawgiver, who is able to save and destroy: who art though that judgest another? What was the commandment Jesus added? To love one another…” Michelle
Reply:
Hi Michelle. Osteen never preaches God’s Word or the original Gospel. “God’s blessings on these men’s lives”? I guess the Muslims, Catholics, JWs, and Mormons are “blessed by God” too because they have much more wealth than these false teachers. They sell their books that contain anything but the original Gospel ….and make millions. Books aren’t a sin, what’s in them and/or what’s not in them is what matters. These men are selling their lies and have become multimillionaires doing so. God has shown us in His Word what He thinks of these greedy wolves Michelle (2 Peter 2:1-3, etc.). Joel Osteen Exposed
“Sounds like a spirit of envy to me. Does it bother you that God has blessed them? May God bless you and keep you on the path… do not pray for me! Do not! In fact I rebuke any prayers you have sent my way for me or my family. I am blessed enough already! Father God leads me and I will not condemn those who speak truths.”
You are now judging everyone on this post who are discerning believers and that’s okay? Isn’t that hypocritical? You are judging/condemning me and/or the others who see these wolves for who they are while saying we’re wrongly discerning/judging. The Bible tells us that if we bid Godspeed (endorse or defend) false prophets who are the very enemies of Christ, we will be judged with them…. —- WOLF WORSHIPERS: BEWARE of the Wolf Defenders … Truth-Despising, Wolf-Protecting, Devil-Defending Agents of Satan
—— SUPPORTING WOLVES (Christ’s very subverting enemies) will land you in hell with them according to God’s Word. https://safeguardyoursoul.com//wolf-protectors/
So far, instead of dealing with this biblical issue from Scripture, you have resorted to personal attack, condemning others who would dare tamper with your idol wolves ….
You are sadly deceived if you think Father God is leading you to defend those He told us are false and His very enemies …. God is calling you to come to Jesus in repentance and to truly get into His Word without the influence of mere sinful men whom you have trusted and made idols of ….covetousness and greed and loving your life in this world may be the roots … God’s Word warns us …. “But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. 2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. 3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.” 2 Peter 2:1-3
Judging or discerning false prophets by the fruit of their doctrines and ministries is not what James wrote about here. No, he was speaking of the true body of Christ of which wolves operating in our midst are not a part. So, this does not apply. They are not “brethren.” Jesus commanded us to “Judge righteous judgment.” (John 7:24) Jude wrote: “Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints. 4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.” Jude 3-4
Notice Michelle is a classic wolf worshiper. She says nothing of worship to the LORD Jesus but will fight to the death to defend obvious wolves who are the enemies of Jesus Christ. She has no hesitation in condemning me and perhaps others here while she simultaneously judges us for exposing those who have lied to her and captured her soul for satan himself. Unreal blindness and hypocrisy.
Message Received/Answered:
BERNICE: Hey, can you discern if someone is prophesying falsely?
TODD: Usually yes. 2 Peter 1:20-21 tells us that “the more sure word of prophecy” is the Holy Scriptures
BERNICE: Ok, The prophecy about tsunami or about the blood moon or the ww3 are they though?
TODD: most of that stuff is very misleading at best …. and hasn’t come to pass when they said it would …. I would stay clear of Francis Chan, Perry Stone, and John Hagee.
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Message Received:
(defending Sunday morning and modern church membership) “Do not forsake the assembling of yourselves.” Crystal
Reply:
Hi Crystal …. yes we’ve addressed that passage many times (Heb. 10:24-25)…. that says nothing of going to a church building on Sundays at a certain time and this being what’s important to Christ. In fact the earliest believers met house to house daily amen … Acts 2:42-27 … they simply could not get enough of Jesus who ordered us to serve Him “daily” and not weekly … many pastors use Heb. 10:24-25 in the wrong way …. yes Sunday is a great day to fellowship and I do it myself and yet, we must not limit this fellowship to Sunday mornings … in fact, check out the “daily” aspect of Hebrews 3:13 – “But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin.” We need Jesus “daily” and not weekly. The word weekly never appears in Scripture but “daily” appears in the New Testament Scriptures 22 times. Some pastors are building a business and they want people to associate their so called church building and church business with serving God which is wrong.
QUESTION RECEIVED:
“Are ‘Godspeed’ and God bless you’ the same? When we hear someone say “God bless you” to an unsaved soul it means ‘that’ person saying “God bless you” is partaker in their evil deeds according to Scripture. Thank you brother Todd for being so diligent in sharing HIS Word. Glory to Father YHWH!” Darlene T.
REPLY:
Hi Darlene. “Godspeed” is blessing or supporting the ministry or minister who is teaching falsehood whom the LORD tells us is “accursed.” (Galatians 1:6-9). In the context of 2 John 7-11, it’s not just an unsaved person John is speaking of, it’s someone who is peddling falsehoods, false teachings and misleading others which is a whole different thing. That person has become the very enemy of the LORD (2 Chronicles 19:2; Philippians 3:18-19). Saying “God bless you” to a lost soul is a good thing. Jesus told us that the Father blesses all – both the evil and the good and that we should have the same mindset/perspective toward them because God is “not willing that any should perish.” (Matthew 5:44-48; 2 Peter 3:9) When I say “God bless you” to a lost soul what I mean is that God did bless them and myself and all men when He sent Christ and my intention is to help lead them to Him.
MESSAGE RECEIVED:
“I stopped attending service now in our church… My Pastor said that Baptist is the true church of Christ because it was started and it originated from John the Baptist…well I did believe it until I found out the real truth in you…” E.
REPLY:
Jesus Christ is the only Foundation and Chief Cornerstone of the true body of Christ, His Church – His blood bought, presently abiding people! (1 Peter 2; Corinthians 3:11, etc.). Satan’s job, and his human helpers’ (false leaders’) is to seduce and spoil you of this reward, even Christ Himself, by drawing your attention away from Christ our LORD to anything else. Read Colossians 1-2.
“For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.” 1 Corinthians 3:11
“He is the Rock, his work is perfect: for all his ways are judgment: a God of truth and without iniquity, just and right is he.” Deuteronomy 32:4
“Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD, Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone, a tried stone, a precious corner stone, a sure foundation: he that believeth shall not make haste.” Isaiah 28:16
1 Peter 2
“As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby:
1Pe 2:3 If so be ye have tasted that the Lord is gracious.
1Pe 2:4 To whom coming, as unto a living stone, disallowed indeed of men, but chosen of God, and precious,
1Pe 2:5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.
1Pe 2:6 Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded.
1Pe 2:7 Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner,
1Pe 2:8 And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed.
1Pe 2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvelous light:” … May your study of Jesus Christ deepen …. here’s some help Colossal Colossians!
INTERACTION:
“Thanks for your phone number, I will call sometime…back in the 80’s I sat under the teachings of a minister named Hobart Freeman, it seemed to be very sound doctrine but things fell apart so I’ve been kind of a loner biblically but believing to belong to a group of strong believers that don’t follow the status quo of today’s ear tickling ministers.” Tom S.
REPLY:
Well that may be the best place to be brother … we learn so many false and fake ways amidst the apostate modern church world…. God has to pull us out, if we are listening to Him … to “come out from among them and be ye separate” and that involves stopping going to and being influenced by them …. they are following each other and not Christ … for generations.
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The Gracious LORD will Abundantly Pardon [podcast]

“Abundantly Pardon”
“Seek ye the LORD while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near: 7 Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon.” Isaiah 55:6-7
The repentant thief on the cross next to Jesus called Him “Lord” and simply asked, believed on Christ. Where is he now? “paradise” …
“Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom. 42 And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise.” Luke 23:41-42
God’s pardon is paramount to being in paradise with Him and His saints. When we cry out to Him, the LORD will freely forgive us. That’s why He came and what He desires to do. Yet we must never forget that we shall reap what we sow (Galatians 6:7-8). If we choose to sin, there will be dire consequences and while we can be forgiven, those results must be reaped.
How many people does God desire to perish? Not one (2 Peter 3:9).
Matthew 5:3, 6, 8
“Jeremiah’s message was never meant to leave the heart in despair. Every warning from God carried an invitation to return. The Lord does not expose empty religion to shame His people, but to heal them. Repentance is not the loss of hope, it is the beginning of hope. Christ still receives every soul that comes with humility, and He gives living faith where there was only habit, peace where there was only fear, and joy where there was only emptiness. The call remains the same today, to draw near to Him with a sincere heart, trusting that His mercy is always greater than our weakness.” Dan Blincoe
“But he giveth more grace. Wherefore he saith, God resisteth the proud, but giveth grace unto the humble. 7 Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. 8 Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded. 9 Be afflicted, and mourn, and weep: let your laughter be turned to mourning, and your joy to heaviness. 10Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and he shall lift you up.” James 4:6-10
“Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;” Acts 3:19
“Therefore also now, saith the Lord, turn ye even to me with all your heart, and with fasting, and with weeping, and with mourning: 13 and rend your heart, and not your garments, and turn unto the Lord your God: for he is gracious and merciful, slow to anger, and of great kindness, and repenteth him of the evil. 14 Who knoweth if he will return and repent, and leave a blessing behind him; even a meat offering and a drink offering unto the Lord your God?” Joel 2:12-14
“Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?” 2 Corinthians 13:5
YOUR PRAYER TO GOD: Father, in the name of Jesus Christ, please break me! Please crush me dear LORD. YOU are my Potter. Pour the water of Your Holy Spirit and Word upon this life You made and saved for Your glory, not mine. I love You Jesus! Let this heart be broken, contrite, and let tears flow from a poor and pure heart that hungers and thirsts after Your righteousness. In the name of my LORD Jesus, amen.
“God has a multitude of mercy (Psalm 5:7), is “plenteous in mercy” (Psalm 86:5), “rich in mercy” (Ephesians 2:4), and has “abundant mercy” (1 Peter 1:3). Wow! And I need all of that! But the real test is since He gives me all that mercy, do I extend mercy to others? If I don’t show mercy to others I will not receive mercy from God. James 2:13.” Karen Cochran
FORGIVE “from your hearts” or go to hell. That’s your choice (Matthew 18:21-35).
It becomes easy to forgive when you look in the mirror honestly and see all your own sins (Mark 11:25-26). Repent now.
“Now therefore fear the LORD, and serve him in SINCERITY and in truth: and put away the gods which your fathers served on the other side of the flood, and in Egypt; and serve ye the LORD.” Joshua 24:14
“God specializes in taking broken vessels and molding them, shaping them, and making them vessels of honor fit for His use!” Karen Cochran
Woman taken in the act of adultery. What about the man? Selective mercy, judgment?
Yes, we are to “Go, and sin no more” and yet “IF (not when) any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father.” Right? We can confess our sin in repentance and be forgiven (1 John 1:6-2:2).
It seems, from the whole counsel of God’s Word, that Jesus is more likely saying “You are now forgiven, saved, and grace empowered and do not need to live in sin any longer.” Surely His mercy and grace didn’t “run out” the first time she was redeemed, rescued. God is a merciful God and YES He 100% requires that we repent whenever needed, re-turn to Him and confess all sin. Yet when we do, is He not merciful? See Lamentations 3:22-23; Psalms 51; 103:10-12; Luke 22:31-32, etc.
The point intended here is that the “Go and sin no more” seems to be isolated by some…. first Jesus forgives/redeems her as she was obviously repentant. Then He says “Go and sin no more.” Did that mean “You better not sin again or it’s over, no more mercy, no chance of you ever returning to Me!” OR, did He mean that she is now redeemed, is a temple of the Holy Ghost, and empowered by divine grace to live free from sin and so she no longer has to be under it’s dominion”? See Romans 6:14; Titus 2:11-12.
“She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.” John 8:11
“For thou, Lord, art good, and ready to forgive; and plenteous in mercy unto all them that call upon thee.” Psalms 86:5
“But thou, O Lord, art a God full of compassion, and gracious, longsuffering, and plenteous in mercy and truth.” Psalms 86:15
HOW can God possibly use me to show His mercy to others if I am not walking in His mercy toward others?
IF YOU DEAL mercilessly with others, undiluted harsh judgment is coming upon your own life. That’s a divine promise:
“For he shall have judgment without mercy, that hath shewed no mercy; and mercy rejoiceth against judgment.” James 2:13
Read that again. Memorize it.
YOU set the measure of the judgment/mercy coming upon your life from God by how you show such to others.
“Judge not, that ye be not judged. 2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. 3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? 4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? 5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye.” Matthew 7:1-5
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Abiding
“If God be For Us Who can be Against Us?” [podcast]

WHO is God truly “with”?
“And he went out to meet Asa, and said unto him, Hear ye me, Asa, and all Judah and Benjamin; The Lord is with you, while ye be with him; and IF YE SEEK HIM, he will be found of you; but IF ye forsake him, he will forsake you.” 2 Chronicles 15:2
What happens when one of His children deny Him?
“It is a faithful saying: For if we be dead with him, we shall also live with him: 12 if we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us: 13 if we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself.” 2 Timothy 2:11-13
Those who reject Him shall be rejected by Him. OSAS/eternal security is a fairy tale espoused by the moral cowards who refuse to serve God on HIS stated terms – repentance, faith, true worship, obedience, holiness, the crucified life, etc.
“And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet. 15 Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city.” Matthew 10:14-15
Persecution and the Disciple of Jesus
1 Peter 4
“But the end of all things is at hand: be ye therefore sober, and watch unto prayer.
8 And above all things have fervent charity among yourselves: for charity shall cover the multitude of sins.
9 Use hospitality one to another without grudging.
10 As every man hath received the gift, even so minister the same one to another, as good stewards of the manifold grace of God.
11 If any man speak, let him speak as the oracles of God; if any man minister, let him do it as of the ability which God giveth: that God in all things may be glorified through Jesus Christ, to whom be praise and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.”
Suffering as a Christian
12 Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened unto you:
13 But rejoice, inasmuch as ye are partakers of Christ’s sufferings; that, when his glory shall be revealed, ye may be glad also with exceeding joy.
14 If ye be reproached for the name of Christ, happy are ye; for the spirit of glory and of God resteth upon you: on their part he is evil spoken of, but on your part he is glorified.
15 But let none of you suffer as a murderer, or as a thief, or as an evildoer, or as a busybody in other men’s matters.
16 Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf.
17 For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?
18 And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?
19 Wherefore let them that suffer according to the will of God commit the keeping of their souls to him in well doing, as unto a faithful Creator.”
Romans 8
“And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.
29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.”
God’s Everlasting Love
31 What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?
32 He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?
33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God’s elect? It is God that justifieth.
34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.
35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
36 As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.
37 Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.
38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.”
“Romans 8:29: For whom he did foreknow, etc. – “In this and the following verse the apostle shows how our calling is an argument that all things work together to advance our eternal happiness, by showing the several steps which the wisdom and goodness of God have settled, in order to complete our salvation. In order to this he first gives us, in this verse, the foundation and finishing, or the beginning and end, of the scheme of our redemption: For whom God did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son. To foreknow, here signifies to design before, or at the first forming of the scheme; to bestow the favor and privilege of being God’s people upon any set of men, Rom_11:2. This is the foundation or first step of our salvation; namely, the purpose and grace of God, which was given us in Christ Jesus, before the world began, 2Ti_1:9. Then, he knew or favored us; for in this sense the word to know is taken in a great variety of places, both in the Old and New Testaments. And as he knew the Gentiles then, when the scheme was laid, and before any part of it was executed, consequently, in reference to the execution of this scheme, he foreknew us. This is the first step of our salvation, and the end or finishing of it is our conformity to the Son of God in eternal glory, Rom_8:17, which includes and supposes our moral conformity to him. When God knew us, at the forming of the Gospel scheme; or, when he intended to bestow on us the privilege of being his people; he then destinated or designed us to be conformed to the image of his Son; and, as he destinated or determined us then to this very high honor and happiness, he pre-destinated, fore-ordained, or pre-determined us to it. Thus we are to understand the foundation and finishing of the scheme of our salvation. The foundation is the foreknowledge, or gracious purpose of God; the finishing is our being joint heirs with Christ. Now, our calling or invitation (see on Rom_8:28 (note)) stands in connection with both these.” Adam Clarke
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