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All who believe OSAS are simply making excuse for sin and will be found wanting in the end and it will be too late. They simply do not fear God.

QUESTION ASKED TO EVADE BIBLE TRUTH:

“How does someone saved become unsaved? You are acting as if you are sinless.”

REPLY:

Sin. How did Adam and Eve lose their place with God? Remember, there was no sin before they sinned.

Show us all where the Bible says Christians have a get-out-of-consequences-for-sin card?

Jesus died to deliver His people from “ALL” their iniquities and not to grant them a license to sin.

“Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from ALL iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.” Titus 2:14

WOLVES can be discerned in that they refuse to teach or ever mention Scriptures like this, all while they talk like Christ’s saints are relegated to a life of sin!

When’s the last time that fraud you call “pastor” preached that and all the other similar truths, doctrines of Holy Scripture?

It’s befuddling that in the face of Scripture and pure common sense that God gives us and also experience… that you believe man has no free will after being saved.

I’ve seen numerous people who were absolutely saved, doing ministry daily, bearing much fruit, filled with the Holy Spirit, and evangelizing…. who no longer walk with Christ. My own flesh brother is one of them. The fruit could not have come from anywhere other than an abiding relationship with Christ.

If all men, saved men have free will, and all do, that means believers have the daily opportunity to obey or to rebel. So, you are saying that every person ever truly saved in the past is in Heaven? Not even close. This is what there are given to us so many warnings such as the 10 virgins and only 5 made it. The other 5 were shut out. The kingdom of Heaven was likened to ALL 10 of them (Matthew 25:1-13).

17 soul damning sins are listed to believers in Galatians 5:19-21.

It’s clear that every Christian errs and yet, God requires repentance and confession of sin when we choose to sin.

“He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall have mercy.” Proverbs 28:13

“IF IF IF we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.” 1 John 1:9

YOU are the only one talking about sinless perfectionism. I never once claimed that believers don’t stumble and sin. Yet, it’s always a personal choice to obey or to sin and it’s also a God-given personal responsibility to repent, turn back to God, and confess all sin. What kind of church is Jesus going to return for?

There’s complete forgiveness for all of God’s people and yet He requires that we honestly admit and confess those sins. At that instant they are forgiven (1 John 1:9; Ps 103:10-13). The promises of divine forgiveness are all over God’s Word and should make us all rejoice to the high heavens daily!

MESSAGE RECEIVED AFTER POSTING 2 PETER 2:20-22:

“I strongly believe that this refers to the unsaved believers or pretending believers, not the real ones. I believe once we are saved by God’s grace, its no longer about us, and My Lord Jesus Christ is the alpha and omega, He is faithful to completion on what He has started.., Grace be with you.”

REPLY:

The only reason you believe this is because you are making your tradition, a heresy, more important than God’s Word, just like the pharisees did (Mark 7:6-9, 13).

HOW could someone, anyone, possibly escape “the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the LORD” and not had been saved? Impossible.

“For if AFTER they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are AGAIN entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. 21 For it had been better for them NOT TO HAVE KNOWN the way of righteousness, than, AFTER they HAVE KNOWN it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them. 22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit AGAIN; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.” 2 Peter 2:20-22

Also, you are completely ignorant of the biblical truth that God never removed any man’s free will after He saved them (Joshua 24:15; Galatians 6:7-8, etc). He will never force any person He saves to remain in Christ and those who don’t will be cast into the fire (John 15:6).

OSAS/eternal security is the sin-justifying myth espoused by moral cowards who refuse to truly repent, lay down their life, and follow Jesus for real (Luke 9:23-24; 1 John 2:4; 3:18, etc.). Hell awaits all counterfeits who vainly believe they’re going to use Jesus to get to Heaven without literally following, worshiping, OBEYING Him on earth. They are living a fairytale! Repent now. Eternal Security is a lie from hell and the doctrine of sissies!

“For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. 21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.” 2 Peter 2:20-21

“He that despised Moses’ law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: 29 Of how much sorer (more severe) punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?” Hebrews 10:28-29

OSAS people are those who want the guarantee that they are going to Heaven no matter how they live on earth. Jesus gave no such guarantee. This is the band of moral cowards who refuse any real accountability or personal responsibility. They force a lie on God’s Word, manipulating it, taking it out of context to say that they are “eternally secure” without following, worshiping, remaining in fellowship with, and obeying Jesus ON HIS STATED TERMS to the end of their life on earth. These are the vilest of snakes in the church world today of which Jude specifically warned us about (Jude 4). BEWARE.

Abiding

Going Directly to the Source [podcast]

IF you desire to truly hear from GOD, read His own Word for yourself. King James Bible.

“Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.” 2 Timothy 2:15

“All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17 that the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.” 2 Timothy 3:16-17

“Nourished Up” – like a wise virgin Heaven bound saint.

“If thou put the brethren in remembrance of these things, thou shalt be a good minister of Jesus Christ, nourished up in the words of faith and of good doctrine, whereunto thou hast attained.” 1 Timothy 4:6

On this biblical topic of fervency, of being “fervent in spirit”, one commentary offers the following:

“Nourished up in the words of faith” is a biblical phrase from 1 Timothy 4:6, meaning to be continually fed, strengthened, and built up by scripture, sound Christian teaching, and doctrine, much like food sustains the body, these spiritual words sustain and grow the soul, leading to spiritual maturity and a deeper walk with God. It signifies a deliberate, ongoing intake of God’s truth, which fosters growth, guards against false teachings, and fuels a believer’s life.” (Source?)

It’s one thing to have a mere human giving you encouragement and yet another thing to get your encouragement, your spiritual nourishment from God—directly. King James Bible.

Psalms 73

“Truly God is good to Israel, even to such as are of a clean heart.

2 But as for me, my feet were almost gone; my steps had well nigh slipped.

3 For I was envious at the foolish, when I saw the prosperity of the wicked.

4 For there are no bands in their death: but their strength is firm.

5 They are not in trouble as other men; neither are they plagued like other men.

6 Therefore pride compasseth them about as a chain; violence covereth them as a garment.

7 Their eyes stand out with fatness: they have more than heart could wish.

8 They are corrupt, and speak wickedly concerning oppression: they speak loftily.

9 They set their mouth against the heavens, and their tongue walketh through the earth.

10 Therefore his people return hither: and waters of a full cup are wrung out to them.

11 And they say, How doth God know? and is there knowledge in the most High?

12 Behold, these are the ungodly, who prosper in the world; they increase in riches.

13 Verily I have cleansed my heart in vain, and washed my hands in innocency.

14 For all the day long have I been plagued, and chastened every morning.

15 If I say, I will speak thus; behold, I should offend against the generation of thy children.

16 When I thought to know this, it was too painful for me;

17 Until I went into the sanctuary of God; then understood I their end.

18 Surely thou didst set them in slippery places: thou castedst them down into destruction.

19 How are they brought into desolation, as in a moment! they are utterly consumed with terrors.

20 As a dream when one awaketh; so, O Lord, when thou awakest, thou shalt despise their image.

21 Thus my heart was grieved, and I was pricked in my reins.

22 So foolish was I, and ignorant: I was as a beast before thee.

23 Nevertheless I am continually with thee: thou hast holden me by my right hand.

24 Thou shalt guide me with thy counsel, and afterward receive me to glory.

25 Whom have I in heaven but thee? and there is none upon earth that I desire beside thee.

26 My flesh and my heart faileth: but God is the strength of my heart, and my portion for ever.

27 For, lo, they that are far from thee shall perish: thou hast destroyed all them that go a whoring from thee.

28 But it is good for me to draw near to God: I have put my trust in the Lord GOD, that I may declare all thy works.”

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